1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Every day a week ago. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 2: Click your ass up the Breakfast Club. You don't finish 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 2: for y'all done? 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 3: Warning, everybody is dj en V just hilarious. Charlamagne to God. 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 3: We are to Breakfast Club. Lola Roses here as well. 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 4: We got a special guest in the building. 7 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 3: Indeed, Mona Scott Young, welcome back you feeling. 8 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 5: Good morning on fumes. Exhausted, but so I'm mad. 9 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: You're always working, always working. 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 4: I've seen them. 11 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 3: Video yesterday and I don't know how true it is, 12 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 3: but they said love and hip hop is over. 13 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 6: No, well, I don't know who knows now. 14 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 5: There's so many changes happening over there. 15 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: I have no idea. 16 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 4: Okay, yes, that was your baby. That's the reason I 17 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 4: was asking. 18 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 5: No. Absolutely, but all babies grow up, they leave the nest. 19 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 4: That's right. 20 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: What you're doing. You're doing movies now. 21 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 4: Right, I am, Yes, concerts as well. 22 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 5: Concerts as well. I've started promoting tours. I got big 23 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 5: by the bug when I did Missy's tour and the 24 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 5: Queens of R and B. You know, so I've continued 25 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 5: to do that. You've been doing some radio date so 26 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 5: that's been fun. 27 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 7: You know, before TV and like before movies you were 28 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 7: managing artists, Like what skills from artist management translated most 29 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 7: directly into building the entertainment empire you have now? 30 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 5: I think, you know, the relationships are talent, being able 31 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 5: to kind of bridge that gap and getting them to 32 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 5: deliver on services, and just relationship management overall. You know, 33 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 5: that's probably the biggest skill set that I think I 34 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 5: bring to production. 35 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 4: You've been with Missy for so long. 36 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 3: You know, most times you don't see a manager doing 37 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 3: it for that long, Right, How has that relationship been 38 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 3: so solid for that many years? 39 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's because it's transcended work, right. 40 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 5: We're friends as well, and you know, we really kind 41 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 5: of appreciate each other on a level beyond the business, 42 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 5: and so there's a respect level there that I think, 43 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 5: you know, keeps the relationship going. Yeah, Buster two, I 44 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 5: mean exactly, he's going. 45 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 46 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 5: And I just started working with Tyreese late in your 47 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 5: career because because I love adventure. You know, he's incredibly talented, 48 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 5: and I always say that, you know, part of my 49 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 5: primary directive as a manager is when I see talent 50 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 5: and I know that I can do something to help 51 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 5: bring it to fruition, you know, I want to be there. 52 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: I want to do that. And he's very very creative. 53 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 5: He's incredibly creative, super talented, and he's a good person, right, 54 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 5: So for me that's important as well. 55 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I put a lot in the life's. 56 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 5: Too short bucket, but he's just a good person. 57 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 7: So yeah, when it comes to Missy and what did 58 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 7: you recognize in them that the industry didn't before everybody did? 59 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 5: Just their sense of uniqueness right to have managed the 60 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 5: two of them for so many years. They are like 61 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 5: the Yin and Yang, you know, and and incredibly unique, 62 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 5: incredibly passionate and have kind of that ability to transcend time. 63 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: Right. 64 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 5: Even taking Missy out on tour, people were so surprised 65 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 5: that was the first time she had ever headlined a 66 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 5: tour because she feels so omnipresent exactly. People are like, 67 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 5: wait what, And I was like, no, trust me, I 68 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 5: was there. 69 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: I know. 70 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 5: But and and Busta you know, still doing it still 71 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 5: hands down the best you know to ever do it 72 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 5: when he gets on that stage. So for me, I've 73 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 5: had the incredible privilege of being part of two super unique, 74 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 5: super special careers that are still going strong. 75 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 7: When you see greatness like that, right, and see what 76 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 7: they became. The longevity and everything. How do you even 77 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 7: spot that now? Like, I don't even know if that's 78 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 7: something that can be duplicated. 79 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 5: It's so crazy you say that, right, because my kids, 80 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 5: I'm always like, what on earth are you all going 81 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 5: to be listening to. 82 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: In twenty years? Right? 83 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 5: It's and there's something to be said for you know, 84 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 5: what they're enjoying now. But I do believe that the 85 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 5: artist development, the art form of being an entertainer right 86 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 5: has been lost, and that's what creates the longevity. Right now, 87 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 5: what you're seeing is a lot of people who are 88 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 5: as strong as their latest hit. 89 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: Right, you got the hot. 90 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 5: Record, you're popping right now, You're on fire, But what 91 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 5: is going to give you that staying power? 92 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: Right? 93 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 5: Are you going to be around twenty eight thirty years 94 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 5: from now? 95 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 7: Do you ever feel like the successive reality TV it 96 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 7: boxed like a lot of black creatives in the one lane, 97 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 7: even though even though it was giving a lot of 98 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 7: people opportunity, it didn't necessarily give you a lane. 99 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 2: I guess the showcase talent, Well. 100 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 5: It's hard, right because I think the Internet, you know, 101 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 5: had a lot to do with it as well, because 102 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 5: it leveled the playing field for artists right before where 103 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 5: you had to have a major system to gain exposure. 104 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 5: Now the exposure was literally at your fingertips. But I 105 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 5: think what reality did was it again provided that same 106 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 5: kind of wide exposure. 107 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: It's all about. 108 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 5: How you positioned yourself and how you took advantage of 109 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 5: that platform. 110 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: Right. 111 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,119 Speaker 5: So, like I said, it was it's a double edged sword. 112 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 5: It had its good side into batside. But I think 113 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 5: when you didn't understand how to you know, use it 114 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 5: to your benefit, you allowed yourself to be pigeonholed. Because 115 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 5: we've seen people who were able to rock out and 116 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 5: move into different directions, create and take advantage of opportunities 117 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 5: that did not exist prior to them having that platform. 118 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 5: So I think it's all about you know, understanding the 119 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 5: business model and how to work it to your benefit. 120 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 4: Do you miss it at all? I'm sorry, but do 121 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 4: you miss that part of the game. 122 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 5: I mean, I still do unscripted right, But again, it's 123 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 5: always about evolution. When you talk about staying power, it's 124 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 5: about being able to take an opportunity utilize it to 125 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 5: catapult you to the next level. Right, So it doesn't 126 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 5: just apply to what I say to the talent on 127 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 5: the show, I've had to apply that to myself. 128 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 4: They criticize you a lot for Love and Hip Hop 129 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 4: and some of the things today. How do you take 130 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 4: that criticism? 131 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 5: I mean, everybody's got an opinion, right, people criticize you all. 132 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 5: You guys know who you are, You know what you're doing. 133 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 5: I'm not, you know, I don't live my life based 134 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 5: on what other people think. 135 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: So it's you know, is there any you. 136 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: Know, it's what Mona Law is long long time ago. 137 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 7: She gave me a call one time, you know, because 138 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 7: of my criticism of the show, and purpose have made 139 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 7: a lot of sense to me because you know, I 140 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 7: didn't realize. Well I'm not saying I didn't realize, but yes, 141 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 7: some of these people had never been on television television 142 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 7: before and they got opportunities that they never would have gotten. 143 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: I didn't get that platform. 144 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 6: And then you see a lot of them now like 145 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 6: you know, listen, and you provided me a catalog growing up. 146 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 1: That was my I was man. 147 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 6: Every franchise of Love and Hip Hop was except Los Angeles. 148 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 6: You know what was my content? Like I I that's 149 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 6: when I started doing just with the mess. That was 150 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 6: my first, jest with the mess. I used to do 151 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 6: it on the episodes Love and Hip Hop New York 152 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 6: that which I still watched the beginning New York. 153 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 5: And then when you asked me, how do I deal 154 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 5: with the criticism, it's stories like this, Right, everything has 155 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 5: its good side and its bad side. You have to 156 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 5: be prepared to take it off. I can't enjoy the 157 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 5: benefits of and not be prepared to deal with the 158 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 5: you know, perceived back wish. 159 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: You started your own network during that time, because you 160 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 3: had the shows, you had everything like because it could 161 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 3: have been your own network. 162 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 5: Listen what it could have shudder. I try not to 163 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 5: live with regret. Right, everything I do, I do it 164 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 5: with intentionality, and it's what's for me at that time. 165 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 5: I mean, there's a lot on the horizon now that 166 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 5: I would have never have contemplated way back then. But 167 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 5: you know, I take everything in stride. You still get 168 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 5: surprised by away, absolutely absolutely every single day I get up. 169 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 5: You know what I love about living life every day 170 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 5: is I never know what you know is around the corner, 171 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 5: and so I'm still excited about the things that I'm 172 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 5: doing now. I never thought i'd be producing tours as 173 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 5: much as I, you know, represented talent and went out 174 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 5: on tours with them, but who thought I would be 175 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 5: putting it together soup to nuts, right, So that allowed 176 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 5: me to exercise another area that I'd never thought of before, directing. 177 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 5: I never saw myself as a director, right, and now 178 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 5: moving into you know, live stage productions and features, those 179 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 5: are all you know, I'm still excited. 180 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: I saw. 181 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: We talked about this up here. 182 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 8: Matthew Knows was talking about he was on a morning 183 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 8: hustle and he was talking about how being a manager, 184 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 8: because he was black and he was male, he didn't 185 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 8: get the like the nods or maybe even the looks. 186 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 8: I forget his exact words that like Britney Spears's dad 187 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 8: and family got. And we brought you up because we 188 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 8: were listing people who were like really big music managers 189 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 8: and during whatever time that didn't get the they don't 190 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 8: get the like flowers that they share for certain things. 191 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 8: Do you feel like that is the reason why you 192 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 8: don't get that, like people don't like honor that. 193 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 5: I mean, if he felt that way being a male, right, 194 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 5: imagine being a woman, especially at the time in music 195 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 5: where I was, you know, when I was coming up 196 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 5: but again, it's a very weird thing about validation. Right 197 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 5: when you're looking for it from outside people, then yes, 198 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 5: you allow it to diminish your value or to determine, 199 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 5: you know, what you are deserving of. I don't know, 200 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 5: grateful when I get recognition. I'm grateful when I get acknowledged. 201 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 5: It feels good to know that, you know, my peers 202 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 5: appreciate the contributions. 203 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 1: But I'm good, you know, without that. 204 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 5: I don't look for that. For me, it's about the 205 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 5: self gratification. Like I said, every day I'm like, how 206 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 5: do I exercise another scale? How do I figure out 207 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 5: what else I'm made of today? That's where my gratification 208 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 5: comes from. And also looking at the talent going on 209 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 5: to do whatever it is that they want to do. 210 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 5: That for me is a tremendous you know, benefit to 211 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 5: what I do. When I'm able to say, oh, look 212 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 5: at that she started this business. You know, even hearing 213 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 5: what you say, that's what feels. 214 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: Good to me. 215 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 7: Was there a moment when you realize like managing talent 216 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 7: wasn't enough? 217 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? 218 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 5: Absolutely, too, Absolutely, that's when I decided to strike out 219 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 5: and start moaning me attendment I've been doing management with 220 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 5: Violator for so long, and I loved it because again 221 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 5: I always say in my DNA, I'm a manager at heart. 222 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 5: But there was something about not being able to do 223 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 5: everything that I you know, imagined or that I aspired 224 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 5: to because it was directly tied to somebody else's willingness 225 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 5: to get up and deliver on that service. Right, and 226 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 5: so you can pull people kicking and screaming only so far. 227 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 5: And then I realized, like, there's so much else that 228 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 5: I want to do that I'm capable of doing that 229 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 5: I haven't even you know, begun to tap into. Let 230 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 5: me explore that those things. And that's why for me, seamlessly, 231 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 5: whether it's like you know, in front of the camera, 232 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 5: behind the scenes, to me, it's all about just like, okay, 233 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 5: what else can Monna do today? 234 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 6: You know? 235 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 8: I want to It was reality with the king that 236 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 8: Matthew knows was I want to correct that. But question 237 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 8: to you, right, with all this stuff that you're doing 238 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 8: now in all these new spaces, would you take on 239 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 8: new talent as a brand new, out of nowhere talent 240 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 8: as a manager. 241 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: Avy talent, up and coming talent? 242 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? 243 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 5: It all depends, right, because the business is so different 244 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 5: now and and there are so many and to be 245 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 5: perfectly frank, there's a different work ethic. 246 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: With these kids coming up today. God bless them. 247 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 5: But you know, I'm still very much old school, very 248 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 5: much grind it out bottom up. And there's something about 249 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 5: having this instant success that I feel skips very important 250 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 5: steps that build long term careers. And again, I'm always 251 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 5: rooting to see them win, and I'd love to be 252 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 5: wrong about it every single time. But you know, it's difficult. 253 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 5: It's management. You're giving your heart and soul to someone 254 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 5: else's dreams, and you have to make sure that you 255 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 5: know your goals are aligned, your work ethic is aligned, 256 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 5: because it's not easy, and you spend so much time 257 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 5: devoted to that that you have to see the benefits 258 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 5: of it. 259 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: And so for me, you know, it's on a case, 260 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: my case. 261 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 5: I get approached all the time and I'm always like, look, 262 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 5: I'm happy to help you. 263 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: What else do you want to do? 264 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 5: Okay, I can plug this for you, I can help 265 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 5: you with this, but you know, not necessarily which you 266 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 5: Oh God, who was my toughest artists. 267 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: Over the years. 268 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 5: It's it's interesting. They all have their thing right, their 269 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 5: thing Missy. She's incredibly creative, but Missy moves and she 270 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 5: wants to move right, and she's not motivated by the 271 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 5: dollars and she's not so all of the elements have 272 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 5: got to be right. Bus the super big personality, so 273 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 5: he's always on ten for everything. 274 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: Everything is up here, you know. 275 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 5: And over the years it's been everybody from you know, 276 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 5: Fantasia to fifty and who you know I did a 277 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 5: TV show with. We still stay in touch. He's great, 278 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 5: but he's got his own challenges. You all see Fifty's 279 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 5: you know. 280 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 2: So can you make a star or as a star born? 281 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 5: I think what you can do is provide the right 282 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 5: arena for a star's talents to shine right, Surround them 283 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 5: in the right way, give them all the tools necessary, 284 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 5: be a consistent, you know, source of guidance and support. 285 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 5: But I don't think you can teach stardom right. But 286 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 5: I do believe you can have people with all the 287 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 5: star power in the world that never see the light 288 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 5: of day, or that never reach their full potential because 289 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 5: they don't have all those other elements around them. But no, 290 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 5: I don't think you can go I'm gonna make your start. 291 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 5: People do that, But it's not lasting. It's fleeting, right, 292 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 5: and it's based on whether it's that song or the 293 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 5: image for the moment, whatever it is that's fleeting. It's 294 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 5: not real true staying power. 295 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 7: We've seen people try to force people on folks, right, 296 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 7: shove it down. You a bunch of money at radio, 297 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 7: a bunch of money video played back in the day. 298 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 7: It's just like, spend a bunch of money at you know, 299 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 7: the screaming outlets now. But I'm like, I don't think 300 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 7: that works right either, people like you, they don't. 301 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: Oh, they don't. 302 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 5: And look like I always use Cardi B. As an example, right, 303 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 5: people are like, oh, you were so No, that was 304 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 5: just a platform I just create. You know, was able 305 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 5: to provide a platform. She was a star day one. 306 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. That had nothing to do 307 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 5: with me. All I did was ay, All I did 308 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 5: was provide the opportunity for that star power to have 309 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 5: a platform. 310 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: I have a Cardi B. Question. 311 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 8: I remember when she first came on A Love and 312 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 8: Hip Hop it was like reported but nothing was ever confirmed. 313 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 8: That we didn't see her for like the first episode 314 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 8: or so because she had to go back. She was 315 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 8: trying to renegotiate the contract that she was offered because 316 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 8: things started to blow up so much towards the time 317 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 8: she supposed to be on Love and Hip Hop. 318 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: Is that true? 319 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 5: I don't know if it was that so much. I think, 320 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 5: you know, she was a reluctant participant. Let's put it 321 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 5: that way, right. Everybody around felt like the platform was 322 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 5: going to be great for her and was going to 323 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 5: give her the exposure she. 324 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: Needed, and she was like, hmm. But I think as the. 325 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 5: Season went on and she understood when she saw the response. 326 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 5: You know, what I always credit her for was understanding that, 327 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 5: oh wait, I didn't do this like I should have 328 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 5: done it to get what I need out of it, right, 329 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 5: Because that's always a speech that I give going into it, 330 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 5: like be very clear about what you want out of this, 331 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 5: so that you line up those dominoes because you're gonna 332 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 5: give a lot in the course of this, and make 333 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 5: sure that you get what you need out of this situation. 334 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 5: And so second time around, she had more clarity, She 335 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 5: understood what she wanted to get out of it, She 336 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 5: had her music that she wanted to promote, and she 337 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 5: came back and what I will say, did it right? 338 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it worked for her because you get to 339 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: see self front on her. You completely dropped the ball right, the. 340 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 4: Ball on her. 341 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 2: You get to see that. But then also that song 342 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 2: forever because of the show. 343 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 8: Into absolutely Yep, you're getting into a podcasting now, Oh, 344 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 8: how do you. 345 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: Hear about that? I haven't even he that's funny. Yeah, it's. 346 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 5: But again, it's just everything in its own time. But yes, 347 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 5: that is something that I'm working on right now, kind 348 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 5: of gathering my thoughts and sharing them with the. 349 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,359 Speaker 7: World like audio documentary or something. 350 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 5: Probably more in line with a podcast, because I I mean, 351 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 5: I don't want it to be self help in any 352 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 5: kind of a traditional way. I just want to be 353 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 5: able to share stories, you know, my experiences and talk 354 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 5: them through and see if there are nuggets that you 355 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 5: pick up along the way that help you on your journey. Yes, no, 356 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 5: why all right, beautiful, let's talk about it. 357 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: I love it. 358 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 5: Am powered, empowered, Yeah, okay, powered by the letter M. 359 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 7: I mean, I think people can learn a lot from 360 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 7: folks like you, because I don't think nobody does artists 361 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 7: development no more. 362 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: Nobody cares about like the curation. 363 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely culture anymore. 364 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 4: I don't understand it or seen it. 365 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 5: Because it hasn't been around in so long. And honestly, 366 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 5: what I subscribe to more fully is this notion that 367 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 5: you know, again, we are not monolithic. There's so much 368 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 5: we can do, and we tend to pigeonhole ourselves and 369 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 5: we tend to allow ourselves to be put in a box. 370 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 5: And so you know the idea of exploring every ounce 371 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 5: of your potential in your lifetime. Right before you take 372 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 5: that last bread, just challenge yourself, what else can I do? 373 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: What's next? You know? 374 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 5: So that's kind of how I'm living life, and it's 375 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 5: just the thought process I'd love to share and see 376 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 5: what comes of it. 377 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 7: I think one of the things I've always liked about 378 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 7: watching you know you as a managers like you, you've 379 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 7: been able to balance protecting your artist creativity while still 380 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 7: preparing them for the business realities of the industry because 381 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 7: it is a. 382 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 5: Business absolutely, and I appreciate that. I mean, we started 383 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 5: out very early on, you know, being that kind of 384 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 5: bridge to the commercial world with hip hop specifically, and 385 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 5: I always said, like, protect this brand at all costs, 386 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 5: because once they've chewed you up, it's like when that 387 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 5: flavor and in that gun is done. 388 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: They're going to spit you out. 389 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 5: So you've got to make sure that you understand how 390 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 5: to navigate the business side of this because you're not 391 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 5: doing this for your health. 392 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: Is how you earn your living. 393 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 5: But protect that brand and protect that culture at all 394 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 5: costs because that is your currency. 395 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 2: You know. 396 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 3: I want to ask about So your executive producer, Mary J. 397 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 4: Blidge presents be Happy. 398 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: Be Happy. 399 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: Yes, my favorite record of time. 400 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 4: Ah, there you go, Yeah, break that down. What is uh, Mary? 401 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: It's not a documentary. 402 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 403 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 5: Mary has an overall deal with Lifetime where she has 404 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 5: a number of movies that were done under this kind 405 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 5: of music brand where they take a song title and 406 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,239 Speaker 5: develop a story around it. 407 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 408 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 5: So we are the first in her extension of her 409 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 5: deal and the movie is called Be Happy, and of 410 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 5: course it's centered around her hit song, but it stars 411 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 5: Tsha Campbell, Makai Pfiffer, Russell Hornsby, and it is an 412 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 5: incredible story about a woman of a certain age finding 413 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 5: herself and you know, figuring out love at this stage 414 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 5: of her life. So yeah, I think is the director 415 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 5: Gabaret Citabay in her directorial debut, she was fantastic, right, 416 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 5: I would look at her and go like, what do 417 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 5: you know about being a woman of a certain age? 418 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: You young? 419 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 4: You in love? 420 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 5: But she was so committed, so focused. She did a 421 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 5: fantastic job and we had so much fun. Gabby is hysterical. 422 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 5: Like when I talk about funny, I'm talking about like, okay, 423 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 5: get back to work funny. But everyone on set we 424 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 5: had a great time making this movie. Shout out to 425 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 5: Cameron Ross who wrote the script. You know, young guy 426 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 5: wrote about you know, women's experiences, and Miss pat is 427 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 5: in the movie as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a 428 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 5: it's a fantastic cast sky Black. Shout out to him 429 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 5: and Zing. But yeah, we had a lot of fun 430 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 5: making the movie and it airs the seventh on Lifetime 431 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 5: and I'm you know, excited to see people's reaction to it. 432 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 2: How do you decide what songs to make music for, 433 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 2: I mean, make movies for. 434 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 5: I think it's just about song titles that you know, 435 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 5: you feel a story can it can come from. So 436 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 5: we're actually developing a wheel around different song titles and stuff. 437 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 5: But yeah, we kind of backed into this because we 438 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 5: had a fantastic story and it was like okay, which 439 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 5: one of Mary's songs fit. 440 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 4: This is it? 441 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: No more drama is it? 442 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 5: You know? And we landed on beh happy because at 443 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 5: its core, that's what the story is about, finding your happiness. 444 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 8: Are you going to be helping Mary produce her Vegas residency? 445 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 5: Actually no, I would love to though, that's right in 446 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 5: line with the things that I want to do, you know, 447 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 5: with the live stage play. But no, this was us 448 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 5: coming together, you know, with her production company. Shout out 449 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 5: to Milana and Bruce, her brother, the executives at her company. 450 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, this was just on the film production front. 451 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 7: When you think about, like all the conversations you and 452 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 7: christ Slidi probably used to have back in the day 453 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 7: and just what hip hop could be envision stuff like this, Like, damn, 454 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 7: all of these years later, we'll be making movies off 455 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 7: these hip hop and R and B records. 456 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 2: Did you see that I did? 457 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 5: Because actually, if you think about it, right back then, 458 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 5: we were one of the first doing those branding deals, 459 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 5: right Tribe call Quest with Sprite Missy with you know, 460 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 5: Rebok and Adidas. So they weren't you know, many people 461 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 5: moving into those areas. So we always understood that we 462 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 5: wanted to branch our artists out and actually me moving 463 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 5: into film television was as a result of that, because 464 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 5: what would happen is artists would get to a certain 465 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 5: point and then a film or TV manager would move 466 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 5: in and they co manage, right, And I was like, 467 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 5: why do we want to co manage? First of all, 468 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 5: they don't understand the culture, they don't know how to 469 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 5: protect the brand, and it's more work for us to 470 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 5: make sure at all times that they're not cannibalizing or diluting. 471 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: So we need to move into this area. 472 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 5: And yeah, we started managing our talent and that led 473 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 5: to us producing. So that was always part of the 474 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 5: global growth vision, you know. And what I would love 475 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 5: to see happen is that we you know, we talk 476 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 5: about hip hop being global, but there's still this perception that, oh, 477 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 5: certain things don't translate overseas. 478 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: And I'm like, what are you talking about. 479 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 5: We tour overseas, you know, we're out there, so really 480 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 5: wanting to see film specifically have the same impact for 481 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 5: our you know, music artists transitioning as it does in 482 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 5: the US. 483 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 4: When do we tell the Missy story? When do you 484 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 4: tell that story? 485 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 3: Because you know, all these interviews have been coming out 486 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 3: recently out of here a lot of Missy stories where 487 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 3: it's like even with the Benjamins, right, I don't know 488 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 3: who told the story or where that story came out 489 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 3: and they told about I know, but I don't know 490 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 3: where what interview was, but he talked about how she 491 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 3: was the one. Was it where she talked about, well, 492 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 3: she was the one that set up the Benjamins and 493 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 3: who could rap, who should rap, and. 494 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: Who should go first. Her stories writing yeah, are so 495 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: crazy and so deep. 496 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 5: It's almost like for his gum when you would see 497 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 5: him at certain pivotal points in history. But you know, 498 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 5: we've been approached so many times, right for the documentary, 499 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 5: for the biopeg for you know, and we've tried to 500 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 5: look at it different ways. But Missy's thing is like 501 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 5: same thing with touring, right twenty something years in before 502 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 5: she stepped foot and headlined a tour, She's like, my 503 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 5: story's not done yet. I'm not ready to tell it. 504 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 5: You know, it's gonna happen when I'm ready. And that's 505 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 5: what I love about her. She is ten toes down 506 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 5: that nothing happens until she decides it's the right time. 507 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 8: It never even got close though, where she was entertaining 508 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 8: at first. 509 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 5: Na Ta Tal when I tell you, we're constantly approached 510 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 5: by the most you know, high profile documentarians, big name directors, studios, 511 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 5: and she's. 512 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: Like, nah, we're not ready yet. 513 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, but she's been amassing that content forever, so when 514 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 5: she finally does it, it's gonna be sick because she's 515 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 5: documented every waking moment. So she's got an incredible archive 516 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 5: of material. 517 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: Right in terms of management. 518 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 5: You know what, very very close because we you know, 519 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 5: when Chris went over to def Jam to start Violator, 520 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 5: Buster was part of leaders over at Rush, so it 521 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 5: was Buster first and then in very short order, you know, 522 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 5: Missy did that Gina Thompson record. I tried to get her, 523 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 5: she was like, nah, I'm good, and then Sylvia ended 524 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 5: up signing her by promising her her own label. That's 525 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 5: the only reason she became an artist. She had no 526 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 5: real desire to be an artist because she had been 527 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 5: so like demoralized from trying it and being told she 528 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 5: didn't fit the look and all that. 529 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: She was like, I'm good, I'm a writer. 530 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 5: So it was probably I don't know, not even a 531 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 5: year apart, so you know, I've been and bust for 532 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 5: a period when I left to do film and television. 533 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 5: He was with Chris and then now he's you know, 534 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 5: back home at moan of me because. 535 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: When you see him now, like creatively, they look like siblings. 536 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 1: All That's what I said, they're like twins. 537 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 7: I'm like, was that a blueprint that you say, Okay, 538 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 7: just work with Buster, so let's try it. 539 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 5: No, they they each I mean think about Buster, even 540 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 5: with Leaders, right, he stood out because he was so 541 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 5: different in terms of style and. 542 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: You know, both lyrically, visually, everything about him. No, it 543 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: just so happened. 544 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 5: But I think the common factor is that I get them. 545 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: I understand them. 546 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 5: I understand what makes them tick, and understand how to 547 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 5: support their creativity, you know, and and how to manage 548 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 5: their eclecticness. 549 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 7: Just God, even when I think about it now you 550 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 7: talk about leaders, Buster said, ra. 551 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: Wow, exactly. 552 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: How how crazy did you have to fight to get 553 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 3: those video shots back in the day, because they were 554 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 3: one of the ones that started those million dollars the. 555 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 5: Bank shout out to Sylvia Ron because she was you know, 556 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 5: and that was the beauty of having, you know, somebody 557 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 5: like Sylvia who respected their artistry, and that came before 558 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 5: the economics and sometimes before the business I mean, incredibly 559 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 5: smart businesswoman of course, but I don't know, I don't 560 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 5: remember Sylvia being able to say no to you know 561 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 5: what I mean. So she was always really supportive of them. 562 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 5: And yeah, they were the first to come out with 563 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 5: a million dollar joints and yeah, Dave Myers and Hype Williams, Yeah, 564 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 5: they were doing it big back then of each other. 565 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 5: Then what do you mean, Yeah, you know they've done 566 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 5: they've done stuff together, but you mean just coming together 567 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 5: and doing one. 568 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. 569 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, but they still you know, again today to this day, 570 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 5: we went out on tour together. That was incredible. That 571 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 5: was a full circle moment for me to have them 572 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 5: both on stage there. 573 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 3: What's one thing bus to ask for? Missy asked that 574 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 3: y'all couldn't pull through if there was anything. 575 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: For a video? No period. Now, let me tell you something. 576 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 5: The funny thing when you talk about like how we've 577 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 5: managed to stay together that long, I think that's part 578 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 5: of it as well. They go out of their way 579 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 5: to ask for the most outrageous, ridiculous like that tour. 580 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 5: I look at that tour and what we were able 581 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 5: to put on stage. I don't know if you guys 582 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 5: saw that. That was bar none. Probably one of the 583 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 5: defining moments in my career, right because Missy was pulling 584 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 5: all kinds. 585 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: Of crazy stuff out of her, you know, and it 586 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: would be like what if we flew? 587 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 5: You know, But that was for me incredibly gratifying just 588 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 5: to be able to figure it out at all and 589 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 5: to pull it off. So every night when we watched 590 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 5: that show go up, it was like, Wow, we did that. 591 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 2: You want could get anything? Y'all had an elephant in 592 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 2: the goddamn. 593 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 5: We had elephant that was not CG that was not 594 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 5: a I, that was a real live elephant in that. 595 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 2: Video was when he asked you for that? 596 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: Where were you probably huddled fetal position in. 597 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 5: A corner somewhere like because they used to wear me out, 598 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 5: the two of them, back to back, going toe to 599 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 5: toe out doing each other, one up in each other. 600 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 601 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 5: Video, I feel like that was like in Brooklyn, and 602 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 5: you know, it was like a huge where it might 603 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 5: have been a bank, like an abandoned bank, because it 604 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 5: was this huge space. 605 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 3: Yeaht elephantant that. 606 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: Was just you know, you can rent trained animals. 607 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 3: Yes, back in the day, you probably can't do that 608 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 3: now you probably did elephant. 609 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 4: Of course. 610 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: I can get I can get a trained elephant. 611 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 2: It was when you. 612 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 7: Think about the classic piece of art y'all made, yes 613 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 7: that has literally stood. 614 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 5: The absolutely and to this day, I just don't know 615 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 5: who can lay claim to the level of creativity and 616 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 5: the things that they were able to, you know, deliver 617 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 5: on for the audience. And that's that staying power that 618 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 5: I talked about. People are gonna remember those. 619 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: Moments, you know, they will ever see that again. 620 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 2: Nothing like, you. 621 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: Know, very different time in music. 622 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 8: I feel like even on the reality TV side though, 623 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 8: like the way that you found the talent the right stories, 624 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 8: like I don't think we ever feel like that again 625 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 8: about reality TV. 626 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 6: It was real. 627 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: It was reality. 628 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 6: It's never scripted, don't these are real problems? Like and 629 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 6: that's the crazy. 630 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 5: Part, right, It was like lightning in a bottle and 631 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 5: people thought, oh, she's making that up. She's And I'm like, 632 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 5: y'all could think whatever you want to think, But let 633 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 5: me tell you something. If I could make up half 634 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 5: the stuff that went on and love and hip hop. 635 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: The rhime, you can tell. 636 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 8: Jim Jones and Chrissy alone, I feel like their story, 637 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 8: like people today still post memes and parts of that 638 00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 8: just there. 639 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 5: It was a death iconic and indelible time in the culture, 640 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 5: you know. But then the crazy part is, I would 641 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 5: say all the time, like, how do you explain that 642 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 5: this stuff is happening when the cameras. 643 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: Are not rolling? 644 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 5: Right? 645 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was not there when 646 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: XYZ happened, so how do you? 647 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 6: But you know, and the crazy thing is, this is 648 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 6: stuff that goes on in people's real house. 649 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: It's just that there's no cameras there, Like the Tara. 650 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 5: That was actually the genesis of it, like pulling back 651 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 5: the curtain because again, having been in management and having 652 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 5: you know, a front row seat to a lot of 653 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 5: those lives that were being lived, it was like, you 654 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 5: know what, there's a whole world here that people wouldn't 655 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 5: even believe the kind of stuff that goes on. And 656 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 5: it was really just about pulling that curtain back. But 657 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 5: I think a lot of people couldn't wrap their heads 658 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 5: around it because it seems so outrageous. Half the time, 659 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 5: Trust me, we were all sitting there like, holy craft, 660 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 5: did that really just happen? 661 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 7: You know? 662 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 6: So even it was even times where you were shot 663 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 6: and some of the stuff, Like absolutely. 664 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 7: What were some of the people the audience things they 665 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 7: understand about love and hip hop that they completely get wrong? 666 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: Listen. 667 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 5: It has evolved tremendously, and I think there were times 668 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 5: later on when people felt like they wanted to add 669 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 5: water and stir to the formula. Right, so I'm just 670 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,239 Speaker 5: gonna come in and do this thing that's gonna, you know, 671 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 5: make me the meme of the day whatever. But in 672 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 5: the beginning, where people didn't understand is that this, like 673 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 5: we said, was really their lives and it was difficult 674 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 5: for them. Like there were so many hours spent after 675 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 5: a difficult scene, like you know, talking somebody through it 676 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 5: and really helping them deal with whatever it is that 677 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 5: they had just experienced for real on television, knowing that 678 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 5: the whole world is going to see this thing that just. 679 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 8: Happened to me, you know, is it true? I know 680 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 8: I've heard Jim Jones talk about this another love and 681 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 8: hip Hop myth that they originally it was supposed to 682 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 8: be about him and Chrissy's life, and they developed the idea, 683 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 8: like he says, like he created love and hip. 684 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 5: Hop absolutely well, Listen, I talk about it openly all 685 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 5: the time, right, when Jim Ackerman, who was the executive 686 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 5: at VH one, came to me. Yandy was managing Jim 687 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 5: Jones at the time. They had an idea that they 688 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 5: had pitched which was centered around Jim that they were 689 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 5: developing for I think two years and couldn't kind of 690 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 5: figure out the right formula. And I think Jim was 691 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 5: going through a lot of things at the time, and 692 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 5: when they turned the cameras on, he just was not 693 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 5: in a space where he wanted to do it. And 694 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 5: so there were a couple of iterations before we landed 695 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 5: on what people came to know is Love and Hip Hop. 696 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 5: I mean, we tried to do something with Mama Jones 697 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 5: and you know the dynamic between her and Chrissy and 698 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 5: you know, so there were a couple of things that 699 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 5: we tried, and then when it was more about these 700 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 5: ensemble casts, it was like, well, let's spread it out, 701 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 5: let's look at the friends, let's see who else is 702 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 5: in the world. And I've said also, the person who 703 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 5: came up with the name was Emily. You know, we 704 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 5: were sitting there going through a bunch of different names, 705 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 5: and Emily was like Love and Hip Hop and. 706 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: We were all like, yeah, Yeah, that sounds great, you know. 707 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 2: Ye Now they're gonna say, well, why didn't they get 708 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 2: equity in it done? 709 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 5: Because if you understand the business of television at that 710 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 5: point in time, this was an unproven concept, right. There 711 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 5: was nothing like it on television. Everybody was kind of 712 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 5: locking arms and trying something. It could have been an 713 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 5: epic fail and then you would have had one hundred 714 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 5: percent of zero. But when you do television, it's worked 715 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 5: for hire. 716 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 8: Right. 717 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 5: They were not investing money in This is the business 718 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 5: side of things that people need, you know, to educate 719 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 5: themselves down and understand. Nobody came to the table and 720 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 5: said I want to fund this, I'm going to own 721 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 5: this thing and license it. 722 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: Right. 723 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 5: This was an idea that was purchased and paid for 724 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 5: by a network, and everyone developed it for that network. 725 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 4: True. 726 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 7: Yes, Well, when your legacy had discussed right like twenty 727 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 7: years from that, what do you hope people say you 728 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 7: changed about TV? 729 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 2: Not just what you profited from. 730 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 5: I don't know that I'm necessarily as interested in hearing 731 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 5: what I changed about TV as much as I am 732 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 5: the impact that I had on people's lives. You know, 733 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 5: think about the number of cast members that have come 734 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 5: through just that franchise, never mind all the other things 735 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 5: that I've produced and the other things that I've done 736 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 5: in my career and in my lifetime right and just 737 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 5: knowing that in whatever shape or form and whatever scope 738 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 5: and scale, that I had an impact on helping someone, 739 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 5: you know, realize their dream, helping someone get one step 740 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 5: closer to you know, their full potential, or understanding what 741 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 5: their space is in the world and how to be 742 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 5: in that and live it and live up to it. 743 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: That's to me way more important. 744 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 5: And again that's when you know, talk about accolades or 745 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 5: talk about criticisms. None of that, you know, has any 746 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 5: bearing for me because as long as I every single 747 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 5: day understand what my intentions are, maintain my direct relationships, 748 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 5: know the impact that I've had on their lives, whether 749 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 5: it's been publicized or not, none of that stuff, you know, 750 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 5: matters to me. 751 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 4: Ramana, We appreciate you stopping it. 752 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:03,959 Speaker 2: Well. 753 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, did we talk about the movie. 754 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 2: Mary J. 755 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 5: Blige Present to Be Happy February seventh only on Lifetime? 756 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 1: Do you have any other movies that you're doing. 757 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 5: Absolutely, We're developing a ton of stuff. 758 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, some I can talk about. 759 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 5: Very excited to be working with Suzanne to pass the 760 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 5: legend right exactly. 761 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: We have several projects that we're developing. 762 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 5: Also a project that I have been pursuing for a 763 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 5: very long time. When I did my first TV show, 764 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 5: one of the judges on the Road to Start with 765 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 5: Missy Elliott was Tina Marie, and so I have been 766 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 5: passionate about seeing Tina Marie's story come to life. So 767 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 5: that is a project that I'm working on with her daughter, 768 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 5: Alia Rose. So yeah, I'm very excited about that. But yeah, no, 769 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 5: many many more things to come in the pipeline. 770 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: So well, if you need any more actresses. 771 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 5: Of course you are on my very short list. Addition, 772 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 5: absolutely very short list, and Charlamagne, I will be following 773 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 5: up with you on my podcast Absolutely Beautiful. 774 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 2: You know, I want to ask you to know you 775 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 2: are even proudly Haitian. Yes, right. 776 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 7: Do you have anybody impacted by the ending of the 777 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 7: TVs status, I. 778 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 5: Mean not directly, it's just a horrible, you know thing 779 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 5: that is Listen, the state of the world in general 780 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 5: is crazy and chaotic right now. But yeah, there's a 781 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 5: lot of extended family, a lot of you know, friends 782 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 5: who have family that is being impacted by this, but 783 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 5: it is, you know, part and parcel with everything that's 784 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,959 Speaker 5: going on in its entirety in this world right now, 785 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 5: like we can't just figure, you know, look at what's 786 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 5: happening to Haitian Americans, look at what's happening to us 787 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 5: in general, like it's crazy. 788 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 4: Absolutely, Mona Scott, we appreciate you for you. 789 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 3: Forget Mary j BLI Presents Be Happy premiers on the seventh, 790 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 3: that's this week. 791 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 4: Make sure you definitely check it out. 792 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 3: And thank you for joining us, Thank you for having 793 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 3: It's the Breakfast Club. 794 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 4: Good morning. 795 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 2: Hold up every. 796 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: Day I wake pack your ass up. 797 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club finished, So y'all done