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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation. How you doing well? That's good

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Speaker 2: us too. Our number two here of the Drive on

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Speaker 2: the twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt,

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Speaker 2: I guess we could call this the Quarterback and Receiver

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Speaker 2: Hour here on the program today. Let's talk Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: Then let's go around campus, and then let's talk a

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Speaker 2: little bit about the upcoming wide receiver market in the

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Speaker 2: NFL free agents, trades, cut candidates.

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Speaker 3: That type of thing.

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Speaker 2: There could be some big names on the move there,

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Speaker 2: certainly certainly could both due to being released, being available

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Speaker 2: on the trade block. A lot of interesting angles there

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Speaker 2: in the wide receiver market for this up coming free

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Speaker 2: agency and just offseason in general, along with a draft

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Speaker 2: class that could have yeah, three, four or five guys

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Speaker 2: drafted in the first round at wide receivers.

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Speaker 3: Your first round pick might be a wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: Very well could be, and I wouldn't hate it, depending

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Speaker 2: on how the board understand it. Matt. But let's begin

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Speaker 2: with Aaron Rodgers, because I think this is and We've

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Speaker 2: highlighted this a couple times. I think this is the

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Speaker 2: domino we'll probably have to wait on the longest.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure he's not going to be hasty with his decision,

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Speaker 3: and last offseason probably taught us that too.

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Speaker 2: Last offseasons he was. The last offseason, he was anything

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Speaker 2: but hasty. I can only imagine that that will continue

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Speaker 2: to be the case this year. But let's talk about

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Speaker 2: the Aaron Rodgers that was in twenty twenty five this

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Speaker 2: past season, the sixteen games because he did miss the

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Speaker 2: Bears game that he played for the Pittsburgh Steelers. These

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Speaker 2: numbers via our buddy Mike the Fable of the Athletic,

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Speaker 2: who we talked to earlier this week. The Steelers played

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Speaker 2: eight games this season against defenses that finished top ten

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Speaker 2: in yards allowed. Okay, games against defenses that finished in

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Speaker 2: the top ten and fewist yards allowed. That's a pretty

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Speaker 2: big number. Yeah, Texans, Vikings, the Browns two times, the Chargers,

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Speaker 3: There are some legit I mean, there's some big time

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Speaker 3: defenses there. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Rogers completed fifty nine point one percent of his passes

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Speaker 2: for an average of one hundred and seventy one yards

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Speaker 2: per game, seven touchdowns, six interceptions, and a lost fumble

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Speaker 2: for a touchdown, as well as a sack for a

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Speaker 2: safety in those eight games.

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Speaker 3: Go deep with the sack for the safety, the nice

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Speaker 3: nice work there.

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Speaker 2: He posted an EPA per dropback of negative point two

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Speaker 2: five and a passer rating of seventy five point two.

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Speaker 2: Those were against those eight games against the top ten defenses.

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Speaker 2: Against all of them, they were.

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Speaker 3: The best defenses. Sometimes yarded sometimes like that, they'll give

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Speaker 3: him three off, but they were big time defenses.

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Speaker 2: Against all other teams. Aaron Rodgers and the other eight

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Speaker 2: games that he played seventeen touchdown passes, only two interceventions,

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Speaker 2: completed over sixty nine percent, so more than ten percent

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Speaker 2: passes two hundred and thirty three yards per game. His

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Speaker 2: EPA per pass attempt was point two three and uh,

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Speaker 2: the guy who owns the NFL's best passer rating of

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Speaker 2: all time was even better at one oh five point two.

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Speaker 2: His career average passer rating is one oh two point two.

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Speaker 2: So essentially, it's two sides of Aaron Rodgers in twenty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a goo way break the one.

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Speaker 2: Against the top ten defenses and the one against everybody else.

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Speaker 3: So let's just stick with that part of it. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna say the passing game, not just him because this

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Speaker 3: is a team game, but absolutely, obviously absolute quarterbec has

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Speaker 3: you want to go this time of year? Yeah, against

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Speaker 3: not championship quality for a playoff run. Now, how many

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Speaker 2: Mean, everybody's got their weeks, everybody whatever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that's the ultimate goal. That doesn't

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Speaker 3: win the division again, things like that. And I also think, well,

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Speaker 3: I was about to say, historically, year two with Rogers

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Speaker 3: So I guess that's kind of out the moot as well.

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Speaker 3: I would expect the supporting cast if you were to

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Speaker 3: That's something would I would hope.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I would hope it's it's not running it

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Speaker 3: Like it wouldn't shock me if like John U, Siamalu,

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Speaker 3: throw in a first round receiver or Bright Nayuk or

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Speaker 3: the sporting cast better. So okay, I mean that that's

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Speaker 3: phase one of this conversation, and I guess we can

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Speaker 3: start talking about is Rogers. See, there's so many layers

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Speaker 3: of this. I want to talk about this for weeks

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Speaker 3: and weeks and weeks.

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Speaker 2: There is and one of one of the just blanket layers,

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Speaker 2: one of the thirty thousand foot view layers is listen,

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Speaker 2: most quarterbacks, their numbers aren't as good against elite defenses,

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Speaker 2: particularly ones with elite pass rushers. Like if you break

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Speaker 2: down those eight games for Aaron Rodgers in particularly the

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Speaker 2: ones that were like his worst Seahawks, Browns, Texans elite

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Speaker 3: Yes, even if he probably true for Herbert and Laura

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Speaker 2: Two years old. That would probably be the case every

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Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL. Their numbers are going to dip

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Speaker 2: against an elite pass Russian elite defense. That's just the

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Speaker 2: reality of the situation.

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Speaker 3: To playing the Bengals twice. Yeah, right, there's some of

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Speaker 3: that are at the bottom league. I'm sure too. Exactly

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Speaker 3: what you're gonna do better against the crappy ones, yes, right, right, right,

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Speaker 3: right right. So there's a couple of layers here is

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Speaker 3: somebody's going to be your starting quarterback next year? Would

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Speaker 3: you consider him? The answer to me is yes on

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Speaker 3: that totally, Yeah, totally, It's not a no brainer. Russell

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Speaker 3: you know there was cases for both at the time.

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Speaker 2: Same way with like Picket and Trubisky right right.

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Speaker 3: Right, like I've kind of seen enough, you know, Rogers,

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Speaker 3: I have not seen enough. There's a couple of layers.

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Speaker 3: Some of the positives is I've kind of fallen in

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Speaker 3: love with the person, you know what I mean, we know, yes,

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Speaker 3: and but I don't want that to cloud my judgment.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't mean it's the right business decision. Because he's

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Speaker 3: so impressive mentally and leadership and football knowledge and all

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Speaker 3: that stuff. That doesn't mean it's the right choice. But

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Speaker 3: there aren't many choices, you know, like no doubt convincing

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Speaker 3: him or asking him to come back, as opposed to

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Speaker 3: trading for mac Jones, trying to sign Malik Willis, making

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Speaker 3: right in the mix, or any other option you can

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Speaker 3: think of, and there's probably a few others. None of

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Speaker 3: them has me doing cartwheels like this is the clear

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Speaker 3: path to you know, quarterback for twenty twenty six. Some

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Speaker 3: negatives that really bother me with Roger's style of game one,

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Speaker 3: he has no control over. He's not a runner. No,

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Speaker 3: it's playing against the running quarterback. Stinks. Everybody has a

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Speaker 3: running quarterback to some degree. When he offers you no

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Speaker 3: rushing yards over the course of an eighteen game season

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Speaker 3: or seventeen game season, that's hard, man, that's hard.

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Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford is the only.

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Speaker 3: One gotta be an MVP candidate, you.

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Speaker 2: Right, only one left in the in the I mean

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Speaker 2: it was him and Aaron Rodgers of the fourteen quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: say they can move. Yeah, and I'm not saying that

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Speaker 3: But bow Knicks is going to get you four hundred

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Speaker 3: yards and third night, when the play races down, they.

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Speaker 2: Can get you the Fernando Mendoza fourth down conversion that

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Speaker 3: The thing. I mean, yes, he can extend plays, but

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Speaker 3: he's not going to run for anything. And when the

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Speaker 3: plays dead and plays often don't go to script, your

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Speaker 3: bad play. Defensive play callers get paid too, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean. So I hate that part about it

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Speaker 3: in terms of that's a lot of first downs like

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Speaker 3: a backbreaker, but he's not the best athlete even on

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Speaker 3: his best day. But he was good. I mean, you

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Speaker 3: at least need that level where everyone turns it back

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence can do that. He's not the greatest athlete

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Speaker 2: and you know, yeah, they all can't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, so that's a requirement. The days of

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Speaker 3: the drew Bledsoe's in the pocket are done. So yeah done,

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Speaker 3: Peyton right, And yes he can roll out and he

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Speaker 3: basically he's a run the play as it's supposed to

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Speaker 2: Is we always talk about makes you easier to as

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Speaker 2: much arm talent as you have in the world. It

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Speaker 3: It's just the whole page that's out, Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: and that's not going to get better.

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Speaker 2: Part of the book that you know is not going

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Speaker 2: to be on the test, so you don't need to

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Speaker 2: study for it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, now, I think this is more him than the

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Speaker 3: previous coaching staff, but it's definitely a combination of the

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Speaker 3: both throwing so short of the sticks and having such

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Speaker 3: a low AIDT average up to target. Is it gonna

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Speaker 3: is somewhat of a deal breaker for me too?

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Speaker 2: I agree, And I think you probably know the answer

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Speaker 2: to this. I hope I'm not putting you on the spot.

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Speaker 2: Was that the same throughout the year? Did it get

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Speaker 2: better as the season went on?

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Speaker 3: Because it to be I think it got a little

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Speaker 3: longer and a little better as the season.

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Speaker 2: Like in September and October. I gave them a little

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Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt of that right. They got to

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Speaker 2: develop that trust in the offensive line first before they

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Speaker 2: let their forty one year old quarterback stand back there.

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Speaker 3: And I do think organizationally, after the Bills game, when

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Speaker 3: they were embarrassed, everybody kind of got outside their comfort

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Speaker 3: zone in a good way. We're going to go for

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Speaker 3: it on fourth a little bit more. We're going to

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Speaker 3: push them all down, feel a little bit more, might

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Speaker 3: hold the ball a little bit more. And I'm sure

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Speaker 3: a lot of that was Tomlin given everybody the okay

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Speaker 3: and having a heart to heart. But he's not here either,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like it's all this conversation

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Speaker 3: based off last year isn't as relevant as it would

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Speaker 3: have been if the same staff's coming back. But it's

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Speaker 3: also clear to me too, and Ben was this way

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Speaker 3: all the great Brady, I mean all banning. If Rogers

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Speaker 2: Or this all hinges on Rogers being here. You don't

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Speaker 3: But Rogers you could handle quarterback room, you know what

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Speaker 2: No you will not.

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Speaker 2: You're talking to yourself into two of Aaron Rodgers a

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Speaker 3: You know, like Mac Jones cost you a third round,

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Speaker 2: You're starting to convince me I've been I'm firmly on

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Speaker 2: What especially then and again, if I open this can

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Speaker 3: Talk about this for four months.

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Speaker 2: If it's Shula head coach and steel hass offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 3: He's he's over there right right right, He's been in

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Speaker 2: I Every time I think we find an answer, there's another.

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Speaker 2: And they were together, Well, then it makes too much sense.

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Speaker 2: Every time we do this and I think I've turned

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Speaker 3: And I don't want to wash away Simpson yet either.

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Speaker 2: I just yeah, well, let's talk about that more when

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Speaker 2: Love the one you're with. Not many better options out there.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing. There's not many options this year.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's not even the Darnold or Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 2: Love the one you're with. Let's talk about some of

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Speaker 2: I like it. I like it. Let's let's talk some

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Speaker 2: The college football season in the books national champion was

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Speaker 3: It's an interesting crop.

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Speaker 3: And I altually know the coaches are gonna who's a

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Speaker 2: guilty of this too. I don't love the Kenny Pickett parallel,

439
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 2: especially just because Kenny Pickett started like forty some games

440
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 2: and fifty games in his college career.

441
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 3: You should dominate your last season.

442
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 2: Ty Simpson has one year yet. I mean he's got

443
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 2: like twelve or thirteen starts. Kenny Pickett had like forty

444
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:44,639
Speaker 2: or fifty.

445
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you should be a high end starter after that

446
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 3: much experience in the college.

447
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 2: Well, correct, And so there was that's my biggest concern

448
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 2: with Ty Simpson. Fifty two games played in college for

449
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 2: Kenny pickt.

450
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 3: For Pickett fifty two man four years old or something.

451
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 3: You know, he's more of a mature human being.

452
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 2: And you know, and you could at least see, Okay,

453
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 2: his first couple of years it was met and then

454
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 2: he really took off. Yeah yeah, and you could and

455
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 2: you could argue, Okay, part of that's because he's, you know,

456
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 2: so much older than a lot of the competition. Part

457
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 2: of that's because it was a down year for the ACC.

458
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 2: All these other things that I don't think are complete gospel,

459
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 2: but I don't think are hogwash either. There's some truth

460
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 2: in those things.

461
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 3: But it's also a dynamite final year pick.

462
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Not every twenty two to twenty three year old

463
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,919
Speaker 2: lights up college for no know, like that, that's not

464
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 2: the case. But Ty Simpson, who you compare that Matt

465
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 2: and he, let's see here, has fifteen starts in his

466
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 2: in his collegiate career. Now he's gotten into in total,

467
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 2: he got into sixteen other games, albeit in mop up

468
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 2: duty as a bachelor. So that's even you can't even

469
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 2: really evaluate hiding them all off.

470
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 3: He's trying to get out of the game and he

471
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 3: bam is up by forty and that doesn't do much

472
00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 3: for me.

473
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 2: He started fifteen games in his collegiate career, Like that's it.

474
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 2: That's that's not much.

475
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 3: You know, he's going you know who the six quarterbacks

476
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 3: at the senior bow are yes, I do okay?

477
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 2: Uh Simpson, nuss Meyer.

478
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, club Nick mm hmm, Robertson's one hold.

479
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 2: On wait second here? Yes, sorry, sorry, I'm reading off

480
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 2: the wrong list. Sorry sorry sorry, uh Nuss Simpson club Nick.

481
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 3: I don't know if all ares healthy enough.

482
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 2: Uh, says Mendoza, Beck and Chamberliss are all invited but

483
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 2: still waiting. Other quarterbacks expected to attend. Sorry, Robinson, Taylor Green,

484
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 2: both of those guys we've talked about. Not in the

485
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 2: first round, but I'm interested in those guys. And Tyler

486
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 2: Schuck Range uh Luke Altmeyer from Illinois, Diego, Pavia, get

487
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 2: the heck out of here.

488
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 3: Least Casom Hill.

489
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 2: By the way, he's Walmart Johnny Manziel.

490
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 3: Uh did I heard today that he is like five

491
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 3: ten at most?

492
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 2: He's Walmart Johnny Manziel.

493
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so he's a gimmick player or CFL player.

494
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yes, I'd love to have him as the

495
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 2: quarterback of my college football team. Oh sure, but absolutely no, absolutely,

496
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 2: absolutely no chance. And I typically hate when people speak

497
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 2: in absolutes about athletes like that, and anything can happen.

498
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 3: But if I have to use a draft pick on him,

499
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 3: I'm not going.

500
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 2: To exactly exactly right. So sounds like Mendoza Beck, Chamberliss

501
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 2: still up in the air and could be the rest

502
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 2: of those guys that I mentioned will be there. Although

503
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 2: it sounds like Ty Simpson will not throw because he's

504
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 2: got rib cartilage damage that he's trying to recover from

505
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 2: it from That saddens me too.

506
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 3: But I don't None of these guys should throw if

507
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 3: it's not their best effort.

508
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 2: That's also true if you feel like you're compromising any bit,

509
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 2: wait for the combine, wait for your pro day, whatever

510
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 2: the case may be. Any of those other guys. So

511
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 2: the the Nuss Myers, the Allurs, Yeah, plumb Nicks.

512
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 3: We talked about this last hour. The Steelers do have

513
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 3: a lot of picks, and rarely do these things work out.

514
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 3: But that third round comp pick.

515
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 2: If there's not an offensive iman that you love, that

516
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: right right, someone that you really think it's gonna help

517
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: throwing a dart.

518
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 3: You know now, I don't love I don't want to

519
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 3: compromise people be shocked up and say this. I don't

520
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 3: want to eat into will Howard's development too much either,

521
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 3: WHOA you know what I mean?

522
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, Can someone check his pulse? This is still

523
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson to me.

524
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,719
Speaker 3: Rudolph's not even a speed bump in this conversation. I'm

525
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 3: not sure that Rudolph should be a Steeler next year

526
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 3: because I don't know what he gives me.

527
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, one year left on his head.

528
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 3: You know, he's one year on his contract. He can

529
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 3: get me out of game.

530
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 2: But I get what you're saying. If you bring if

531
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 2: you go and you draft a quarterback, and if you

532
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 2: bring Aaron Rodgers back to say.

533
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 3: If it's Rogers Rudolph Howard draft pick, sorry, Mason, Yeah,

534
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

535
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 2: Now, that would give me some pause.

536
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 3: It wouldn't be Howard verse fourth round pick for that

537
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:50,719
Speaker 3: third agree.

538
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 2: But I would also have some trepidation in that because

539
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 2: if I'm going to Baltimore and Aaron Rodgers has a

540
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 2: wrist injury and can't play, I want Mason Rudolph more

541
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: than I want Will or insert day two day three

542
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: quarterback pick. Yeah, but I guess that's a risk. You'd

543
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 2: have to be willing to.

544
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 3: Live in only.

545
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 2: So many only so many seats on that boat.

546
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 3: There's only so many seats on that boat.

547
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: So aler's a very interesting one to me. Yes, I

548
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 2: think there's a real chance that if he would have

549
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 2: declared last year as he should have. And I know

550
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 2: that that's a second yeah, but I'm telling you this

551
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 2: right now. Even if Dante Moore in Oregon goes sixteen

552
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: to h Dante Moore wins the Heisman in the National

553
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 2: Championship Trophy and goes first overall, I still don't know

554
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 2: if I would say.

555
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 3: Like, if that's better.

556
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's better. I mean, you know,

557
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of rumblings now that Indiana Indiana's trying.

558
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 3: To make its opposed to go to the j seventeen

559
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 3: and getting your head beat in and look like the

560
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 3: worst quarterback in the league. That still might be better

561
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 3: than your scenario.

562
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 2: Because more so often than not, it's more so the

563
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 2: Drew Aller where he I think would have been right

564
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 2: there with Jackson Dart in the conversation last year.

565
00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 3: He would have been in that neighbor.

566
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: He would have been in that end of the first

567
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 2: round conversation. Could have been the Giants pick where Dart

568
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: was picked, but I think he would have been right

569
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: in that same If five or ten picks within within between,

570
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 2: like Dart and Chuck between yes, between pick twenty and forty,

571
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, something like that, and now

572
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 2: chance to do that now he would probably he'll probably

573
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 2: be fortunate if he's a Day two pick, you know.

574
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 3: And I'm guessing a lot of these guys are third

575
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 3: fourth rounders types.

576
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: And we saw that last year, that middle class of

577
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 2: Sanders unless you went to the Cleveland Browns, there wasn't

578
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: much of a middle class.

579
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 3: For quarterbacks last year.

580
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 2: They as get top picked, in the top fifty, or

581
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: get picked at the end of Day three.

582
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 3: Now a lot of this will change depending on where

583
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 3: they truly are projected. I'm just guessing on that, but

584
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 3: I'm starting to learn the players better. Aller needs to really,

585
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 3: really really clean up his footwork. I mean, but that's possible,

586
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 3: you know, like some of these things you can't grow.

587
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 3: You can't get a bigger arm. Yeah, I mean, he

588
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 3: sits around for a year or two and hangs out

589
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 3: with Rogers and gets a personal quarterback coach like Josh

590
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 3: Allen did. You may have got one. Club Nick's the

591
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 3: one I didn't get a chance to really dig much on.

592
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 3: But what's interesting to me is old.

593
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 2: Club Nick is going to the East West Shrine Bowl.

594
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: Pardon me, that's.

595
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 3: Good for him. Because he should should be the best

596
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 3: guy there.

597
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: Get I get what you're saying in that. Yeah, it

598
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 2: feels like a big miss for him to miss the

599
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 2: Senior Bowl.

600
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 3: But as you know, he could do both. Sometimes they

601
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 3: do both.

602
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 2: I guess that's true.

603
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially if there's a if you shine at the

604
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 3: Shrine Bowl and somebody backs out, a lot of those

605
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 3: guys just drive the mobile.

606
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 2: Let's see. According to mcshae here, it sounds like he's

607
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 2: just playing in the East West Shrine Bowl instead of

608
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 2: the Senior Bowl.

609
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 3: Which might not be bad if he's clearly the best

610
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,959
Speaker 3: quarterback at that event. Makes you look good. Yeah, you know.

611
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 3: But one thing about all these dudes all are nuts.

612
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 3: Club Nick, all the ones that were talked about.

613
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: As first round picks a year ago.

614
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's different when you talk about them summer scouting,

615
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,719
Speaker 3: because you know they're not going into the NFL that year.

616
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 3: It's like, well, if he works on his footwork or

617
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 3: if he gets you know, a better decision maker in

618
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 3: the senior year, he could be in the first round. Mix.

619
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 3: None of them improved in all the areas that they

620
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 3: were worried about. Sounds like Club Nick was the one

621
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 3: that didn't go backwards though.

622
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: Yes, Climpson just had a weird year, yea, a ton

623
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: of injuries, kind of a failure to launch.

624
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 3: I don't see a hig enough ceiling with him though,

625
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 3: I don't. I think he's a lifetime backup or good story.

626
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: And that's where again, if I'm gonna take somebody in

627
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: the Tyler Shuck range, the day to range, I want

628
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 2: it to be somebody that I feel like has a

629
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 2: real ceiling.

630
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 3: That's what I mean.

631
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: I'm not trying. I'm not trying to all these guys.

632
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 3: I don't want to not trying to find the next

633
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 3: Mason Rudolph. I'm trying to find.

634
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to hit a double into the left

635
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 2: field gap. I'm trying to swing for the fences. Yes,

636
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: and there are some of these guys you could convince

637
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: me ty Simpson, the Sawyer, Robinson's and Taylor Reid's who

638
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: just have traits go need a ton of polish, but

639
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: just have traits galore. Maybe even someone like Carson Back

640
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 2: a polish ton. Yeah, they need like they need buffed out.

641
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 3: And yeah, like Sawyer, if you put his highlight tape on,

642
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,479
Speaker 3: You're like, why isn't he talking about like the top

643
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 3: five unbelievable, right, but his low light tape's horrible.

644
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 2: Really bad of Carson back too?

645
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: Is that same back to me? I'm I'm souring on too.

646
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 3: I just I think he's a backup too. To me,

647
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 3: for him, his arm didn't impress me in the National Title, and.

648
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 2: For me with him, it all comes down between the

649
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 2: ears and just always felt like there's something off there.

650
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 2: He's like the anti Mendoza in that regard. Mendoza, you

651
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 2: worry about nothing from the head up. I don't think

652
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: like you've got no concerns about him and his processing

653
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: ability and getting in the playbook and all that stuff.

654
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 3: Awler's got a lot of bad tape too, but at

655
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 3: least he has traits and at the right price, I

656
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 3: wouldn't mind working with him in La Trobe.

657
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 2: You know what I mean again, a lot of these

658
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: guys at the right price sign me up.

659
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, sign me light hit Nus seems pretty good.

660
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 3: Above the head. You can tell why he's you know

661
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 3: his dad as a coach. He's small, he man, he's

662
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 3: not that athletic, and.

663
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: His his he takes some risks to his big red flag.

664
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,479
Speaker 2: For him, for me too, is it feels like all

665
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks that come out of LSU there take off,

666
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: you know, at least maybe I'm going recency by but

667
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: the jayde Daniels and the Joe Burrows. And he went backwards,

668
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: and he went backwards. Yeah, at a program that you know,

669
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: kind of builds themselves offensively and dynamic wide receivers and

670
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: talented playmakers, and he went backwards. Last one, Trinidad Shambless.

671
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: I think we haven't really discussed. He's his His kind

672
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: of lawsuit against the NCAA is still up in the air.

673
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 3: He's the only one I can think could challenge Simpson to

674
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 3: be QB two. He makes a lot of plays and.

675
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: Does he Yeah, and I like him that you're concerned about.

676
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 3: He might be five ten. I think most people don't

677
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 3: think he's six foot.

678
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 2: He might be Bryce young that here.

679
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 3: He kinda is Russell Wilson.

680
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and that concerns me. Yeah, at Wilson,

681
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 2: unless unless you're Russell Wilson and Drew Brees. It's right, he's.

682
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 3: Got some of that playmaker to him early Wilson. I'm

683
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 3: talking about good ones.

684
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the good Absolutely, this is.

685
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 3: Hard and he runs through tackles, and he doesn't play

686
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 3: little bothers me if if he's five to ten, I

687
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 3: doubt he's six feet.

688
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: Five ten is five to ten?

689
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah?

690
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, so uh yeah, that's kind.

691
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 3: Of do we know when that answer is coming?

692
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 2: Well, it should be soon.

693
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 3: It should be soon or him, I'd want to play

694
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl. Correct, And that's only next weekend.

695
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 2: And and and Todd McShay. Uh, let's see here, uh,

696
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: Trinidad Chambliss has a standing innovative, a standing invite to

697
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: the Senior Bowl, and could be in attendance even if

698
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: he's still waiting for the result of his lawsuit against

699
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: the n c DOUBLEA. The Senior Bowl will make room

700
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: for him, even if he puts in a late word

701
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: and wants to participate. I would implore him to take

702
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 2: them up on that offer. He's got a ton of

703
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: natural talent, He's in great shape, he's smart, He's an

704
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: endearing player who would benefit greatly from time and mobile

705
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: around the coaches of the NFL. He could leave the

706
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 2: Senior Bowl with some serious momentum and fight for that.

707
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 3: Yeah is what I was thinking too. Like he he

708
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 3: could check a lot of boxes there, But then you're

709
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 3: gonna get a verified height too, which I want. Eventually

710
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: we'll be waiting for some of that, Yeah.

711
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: Without a doubt, Without a doubt, Matt, let's kind of

712
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: complete the final piece of this quarterback off season conversation

713
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: and talk wide receiver market and what we could be

714
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: looking at there when we return on the other side

715
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: to close this thing down on a Thursday. We'll do

716
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: that when we return. Wet Sheeler, Matt Williamson. It is

717
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

718
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: Your tune's about Drive on your twenty four to seven

719
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

720
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: Down the home stretch here on the Drive on this

721
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 2: Thursday evening, as it sounds also a little one last

722
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 2: kind of moving and shaking coaching carousel thing for you.

723
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: Tom Pellasero reporting that the Cowboys are close to hiring

724
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: Christian Parker as their defensive coordinator. He is just thirty

725
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: four years old and has been the dB coach under

726
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 2: Vic Fangio with the Eagles the last two His name

727
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 2: yeah same here.

728
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 3: Anonymous posician coach type.

729
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 2: Cooper Dejen just tweeted that he hates to see the

730
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 2: Cowboys getting a great one, and he would not be

731
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 2: the player that he is without Christian.

732
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 3: Parker fano is it's a great place to steal from.

733
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: Yes, that's one of those trees that you want to

734
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 2: pluck some fruit from. Certainly, all right, Matt, we got

735
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: about ten minutes left here. Let's talk the NFL offseason

736
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 2: wide receiver market. Because I think.

737
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 3: It's a good wide receiver draft. Let's get that out

738
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 3: of the way.

739
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 2: It's a good wide receiver draft. It's an interesting market

740
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 2: in terms of free agency and some guys who might

741
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: become available via trade.

742
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some names that could move.

743
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: And Matt, I want to can I want this to

744
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 2: be this is going to be the third straight off

745
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 2: season now that we're talking at nauseum about wide receivers.

746
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: Can this be the last one?

747
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 3: It needs to be the last one.

748
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 2: This is the final chapter.

749
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 3: Patch it together or maybe get to the trobe and

750
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 3: like man by the trade deadline, they'll get one like no, no, no.

751
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 2: This is the final chapter of the trilogy right here.

752
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 3: It needs to be.

753
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 2: Okay, this is Return of the Jediah. This is Return

754
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: of the King, Lord of the Rings. Okay, the trilogy

755
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: always has to have the return in the title apparently

756
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 2: return of a wide receiver number two for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

757
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 3: And let's close down this this trilogy.

758
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 2: Bill Barnwell, who you and I both like, put together

759
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 2: kind of a cheat sheet maybe if you will, on

760
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 2: the offseason wide receiver market, free agents, trade candidates, cut candidates. Again,

761
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: this is separate from the draft conversation, right right, and

762
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 2: we will talk plenty of these wide receivers in the

763
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 2: draft because there's a lot to like.

764
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 3: It shows me with a twenty first overall pick, Steelers

765
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 3: take wide receiver from Malick I.

766
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 2: Lemon from University of Southern California. I think that's a

767
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 2: real possibility. There's three or four wide receivers. I think

768
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 2: maybe Cardinal Tait and Jordan Tyson from Ohio State and

769
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 2: Arizona State will be out of the Steelers range. But

770
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 2: there's going to be some of the.

771
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: First first round yes, yes.

772
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: So Barnwell has this broken down into franchise tier, franchise

773
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: wide receivers, quality, free agents, cut candidates, and trade candidates.

774
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 2: His franchise wide receiver tier is one player, and it's

775
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: George Pickens, and I get what he's saying, and there

776
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: he's coming off of first team All Pro year, ninety

777
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: three catches, fifteen hundred yards, nine touchdowns. I get it.

778
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 3: An he thinks he's going to get franchised or that

779
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 3: he's the best guy.

780
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: Know that he's like a franchise wide receiver.

781
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay. Yes, I also think he's gonna get franchised.

782
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: I also think he's gonna get franchise. Yes, a little

783
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 2: play on words there. Yes, And we could sit here,

784
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 2: and we could sit here and we could debate, is

785
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: George Pickens a franchise wide receiver? Would you give him

786
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: a massive four year contract? Completely different conversation. I think

787
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: it's not gonna happen here, and I think everyone knows

788
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 2: kind of where you and I probably would come down

789
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: on that. And I just don't feel like talking much

790
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 2: more about the Pickens something that you've happened a million

791
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: times unrestricted free agent wide receivers. This isn't great, not great.

792
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 2: Romeo Dobbs interested interested, got a lot better this year,

793
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: by the way, Mike evans Man, I would be interested

794
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,479
Speaker 2: if this was any time in the last decade except now.

795
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 2: Juwan Jennings San Francisco forty nine.

796
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: Ers somewhat interested.

797
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: Christian Kirk Houston, Houston, Texans.

798
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 3: I know he's tore the Steelers up, but I want

799
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 3: to do better than that.

800
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: Alec Pierce Indianapolis Colts highly interested.

801
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 3: Did these guys are to make more than you think though, folks.

802
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 2: In that twenty million range?

803
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Pierce and Dobbs really changed my mind this year.

804
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 3: I liked Pierce, I didn't really like Dobbs, but both

805
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 3: really expanded their game this past season. A great deal.

806
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 3: They were kind of one trick ponies, but they got

807
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 3: a lot better. They're they're solid to above average number twos.

808
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: Now.

809
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 2: Jamison Williams signed a three year, eighty million dollar deal

810
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 2: last offseason. Do you think that's comparable for guys like

811
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: Alec Pierce.

812
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 3: He's better than them, but he's also riskier than them.

813
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 3: But inflation, so probably in that neighborhood.

814
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 2: So you're looking at twenty three ish twenty four ish

815
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 2: million a year.

816
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 3: Pierce in particular, he's more talented.

817
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: Than and you. When we were getting ready for Colts

818
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: Week back in yeah, what was that October? Probably I

819
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 2: think October or late October early November. You highlighted how

820
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: like they've almost got one too many horses in that

821
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: swide receiver.

822
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: Room, especially with Warren being a first round pick two

823
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 3: in the May. And you know, right, they got a.

824
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 2: Lot, so hey wouldn't be uh you could hit the market.

825
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 3: Him and Dobbs in Green Bay similar they they chuse

826
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 3: the first round pick on a pass catcher too, you know.

827
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 2: Uh So those two in terms of this crop, the

828
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: leader in the clubhouses for you, in terms of just

829
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 2: who you'd be interested in. Wandale Robinson New York Giants.

830
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a total slot machine though, but he got

831
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 3: used Bundfield a little bit more like a couple of

832
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 3: those names were.

833
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: Total slot machine. Sorry that just the Las Vegas and casinos.

834
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 3: I would assume Austin's gone, and I still might use

835
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 3: the first round pick on a receiver. Yeah, and even

836
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 3: if I signed Dobbs or Peers, I might use a

837
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: second round pick on a receiver because I'm not gonna

838
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 3: be we got on Wilson to be the three.

839
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 2: I mean, no, no answers. If I had to put

840
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: my chip down right now, I.

841
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 3: Think you need two of them in some way, shape

842
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 3: or form agreed.

843
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 2: And so I think with the first round pack that

844
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 2: might be where I would put my chip down right

845
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: now for the Steelers, although plenty of time to change that. Yeah,

846
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: and it might not even be like a twenty percent chance.

847
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 2: It might be less than that even But.

848
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but every mock i've seen

849
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,959
Speaker 3: so far wide receivers Simpson or a wide receiver and

850
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 3: get people us.

851
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: And when you think about what you take in the

852
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 2: first round too, yeah, yeah, yeah, quarter you're not gonna

853
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: take an edge, You're not gonna take a tackle.

854
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 3: I don't think it'll take a tackle, right.

855
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 2: I don't think you're going to take a cornerback.

856
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 3: I would think Pierre or somebody's and join right.

857
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, right, So yeah, that leaves quarterback, wide receiver.

858
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: That's where there there's a wealth of talent there, right. Yeah.

859
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 2: You could always go back to the end tier of

860
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: the defensive line. They did just do that last year.

861
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 3: But I think there's a guard at Penn State that

862
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 3: could if Semal who leaves, I could see.

863
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 2: And he's there pick twenty one. If you can get

864
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: the number two guard in the draft to pick twenty one, I.

865
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 3: Don't think another defensive tackles crazy either.

866
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 2: I don't that would be that's what retires they'd be

867
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 2: a couple steps down from wide receiver in quarterback. But

868
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: I think those are the two most likely as we

869
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 2: sit here today in late January, with a lot that

870
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: can change. Now, let's het these other names. It could

871
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: be on the movie Deebo.

872
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 3: Samuel doesn't interest me unless it's a one year cheap deal.

873
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: He turns thirty this month.

874
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 3: You know it unrestricted? Still?

875
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, Yes, Rashid Shaheed be a fun definitely interested,

876
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: be a fun name to hear Rob King say a

877
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 2: few times every summing.

878
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 3: Yes, Like, none of these guys means I'm done though,

879
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 3: oh done? Yeah, Yeah, but no, I would entertain signing

880
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 3: Shaheed for sure.

881
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 2: Taekwon Thornton, Kansas City.

882
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 3: Chiefs, Eh, I mean these are more.

883
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: He's more like a three four three four.

884
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:39,439
Speaker 3: Now we're getting in that.

885
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: If you were to draft the first round receiver, I

886
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: wouldn't hate.

887
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 3: That, right, Like, if you would go someone like him,

888
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 3: it's too much of like the band aid that they

889
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: have been playing with. Then you're having the same conversation

890
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: do every off season, last two.

891
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: Off seasons cut candidates now, Matt, Yeah, I don't even

892
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 2: know if this is a cut candidate or just a

893
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 2: certain to be cut. Brandon Ayuk for the four nine

894
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 2: Ers didn't. He's not gonna be an John Lynch came

895
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 2: out literally and said he's done as a forty nine er.

896
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 3: Right, so he turned down all the guaranteed money and

897
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 3: nobody can find him. I was asked today on our podcast,

898
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 3: is he becoming Antonio Brown in terms of I hope

899
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 3: not odd behavior.

900
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: Anyone who's anyone, who's anyone who's willing to avoid a

901
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: twenty five million dollar roster bonus?

902
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 3: Right, it seems like he doesn't want to be in

903
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 3: San fran for two years. Going back to Steeler Conversation's last.

904
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: Trading camp, Matt, I'm not sure.

905
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 3: And he's coming off a major injury.

906
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. There's any place in the world that

907
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to be if you were going to

908
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 2: give me a twenty five million dollar bonus to be there.

909
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, right right. I'm very interested in him, but

910
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 3: I'm not giving you like first round pick. Like a

911
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: conversation back then, now, they're not even close.

912
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill Miami Dolphins.

913
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 3: Probably not. He's coming off a major injury too.

914
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's doue thirty six million dollars this upcoming season.

915
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 2: He's in his thirties. Yeah, Calvin Ridley.

916
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 3: Eyah with a rookie, but he really was bad at

917
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 3: the end of the year or two. Yeah, I know

918
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 3: it's hurt, but I mean last we saw of him

919
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 3: wasn't good.

920
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: It wasn't great, all right, And then finally trade candidates

921
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: someone that we talked about earlier this week, aj Brown.

922
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: I don't think I'd be interested from the Steelers standpoint.

923
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 3: And I don't think so.

924
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 2: Him and DK are too much peanut butter and peanut butter.

925
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: I want some jelly.

926
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm definitely not giving you first because of

927
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 3: the contract, the age. There's a little decline, although it

928
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 3: got better as the season.

929
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:36,479
Speaker 2: He's older than DK.

930
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 3: He's older than DK.

931
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know they played together in college at all

932
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: this and all that, but I just I.

933
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 3: Mean, I'm making the call, but I doubt something would

934
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 3: get done to my liking.

935
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 2: Yes, like you and I have talked about a couple

936
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,959
Speaker 2: of times. I want if DK metcalf is the left shoe,

937
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: I want to right shoe. Yeah, I want to cerebral route.

938
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 3: You are technician.

939
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: Let's see here, we got another minute or two Keon

940
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 2: Coleman for the Buffalo Bills after throwing him under the

941
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: bus like a guy like that.

942
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 3: I'll give you if you could buy super low fifth

943
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 3: round pick and still sign Peers, Yes, you know what

944
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 3: I mean, Yes, and just take a chance on him.

945
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 3: Maybe I can revitalize him. I don't like how.

946
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 2: Maybe one of my fourth round comp picks or fifty.

947
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 3: Slot and they think he's George Pickens and he's not. Yes.

948
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: Last one is Quinton Johnson from the Chargers, Xavier Lagette

949
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: from the Panthers, DJ Moore from the oh Brian Thomas Junior.

950
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 3: I'd be interested, Yes, I would be very That's the

951
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 3: name it's most interesting to me.

952
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 2: Jalen Wattle as a trade candidate. That's the very Those

953
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 2: those last couple of trade candidates I would.

954
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 3: Be There's DJ Moore, but he'd be useful.

955
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: To Brian Thomas Junior. J Wattle for the right.

956
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 3: Pro Battle and Thomas are really interesting, very interesting. I'm

957
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 3: gonna give you first, but i'd give you stuff. Yes,

958
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 3: I'm not sure the first round pick can ever move

959
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 3: for a player on this team right now. I think

960
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 3: you have to draft. I'm not moving.

961
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 2: My first if I'm getting Lamar Jackson. I'll move my first,

962
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's that it's that type

963
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 2: of move. But yeah, I think that about covers it

964
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: for that wide.

965
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 3: It'll be on the move at that position.

966
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 2: And that's a good thing.

967
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 3: Not all of them, but a lot of those.

968
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: That's a good thing if you can nab one of

969
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: those guys, get somebody in the top one hundred of

970
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: the draft to Yeah, yeah, I think you know, I

971
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: think there's.

972
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 3: Position like you probably need at least too, I think so, yeah.

973
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 2: I want to go into it with more you know,

974
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 2: more arrows in my holster.

975
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,959
Speaker 3: You really have a Metcalf and Wilson and Scornic right now.

976
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 3: I got it.

977
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 2: No, it's not right today, No, it's not. That will

978
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 2: do it for today. Tomorrow on the show, we are

979
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 2: taking a look at championships Sunday, baby. Oh yeah. And

980
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: obviously we'll continue to keep you updated with all the

981
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 2: moving and shaking of the coaching carousels across the National

982
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 2: Football League. But that will do it for us today.

983
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 2: Big thanks to Chris Danski for joining us, Nathan for

984
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 2: producing on the radio side, TV, mister Tyler V for

985
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 2: producing keeping us handsome on the video side of things.

986
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 2: For Matt Williamson, I'm West Huhler. Take care, everybody. We'll

987
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 2: talk to you tomorrow. As always, you know where to

988
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 2: find us. It's on your twenty four to seven home

989
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,600
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990
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