WEBVTT - The Revisionist History Holiday Sampler

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin. Hello, revisionous history fans. Malcolm Glawel here, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you about a new podcast from Pushkin Industries

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<v Speaker 1>called Bad Women. Ripper retold you know the story. In

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen eighty eight, five female prostitutes were brutally murdered in

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<v Speaker 1>a London slum, attacks so violent the killer earned a nickname,

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<v Speaker 1>Jack the Ripper. For centuries, we've assumed these women were

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<v Speaker 1>indeed bad women. But what if everything we know about

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<v Speaker 1>them is wrong. Historian Halle Rubinholt has uncovered the true

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<v Speaker 1>stories of the Ripper's victims. Polly, Annie, Elizabeth, Catherine, and

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Jane all struggled against the misogyny that thrived in

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<v Speaker 1>Victorian England until they found themselves in the path of

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most vish killers in history. Listeners are

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<v Speaker 1>loving the show. I've called it brilliant, a badly missing

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<v Speaker 1>lair to the story, addicting, fascinating, informative and entertaining, and

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<v Speaker 1>a historical treat and Bad Women is critically acclaimed. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been deemed one of the best true crime podcasts by

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<v Speaker 1>The Guardian, Vulture, and Esquire. Fulcher said Hallie takes aim

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<v Speaker 1>at her critics in her first episode and continues throughout

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<v Speaker 1>too satisfyingly skewer ripperologists, especially one former officer, who seems

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<v Speaker 1>to think the murder victims at the heart of the

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<v Speaker 1>case must have done something to warrant their gutting one

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<v Speaker 1>way or another. If you haven't listened to Bad Women yet,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you're waiting for. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>share a preview now that will get you totally hooked.

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<v Speaker 1>You can binge the entire season on all your holiday

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<v Speaker 1>travels and staycations. Just search for Bad Women wherever you

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<v Speaker 1>get your podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a warm September evening. The sky has darkened and

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<v Speaker 2>a moon has risen over the flat, oily river. Hundreds

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<v Speaker 2>of day trippers and pleasure seekers are aboard the Princess

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<v Speaker 2>Alice as she steams through London. Music, singing, and the

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<v Speaker 2>excited shouts of children give the so called Moonlight Cruise

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<v Speaker 2>a holiday feld. No one notices that the craft is

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<v Speaker 2>moving directly into the course of a great iron holed freighter.

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<v Speaker 2>The Princess Alice plows on her paddle wheels, biting into

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<v Speaker 2>the rank sewage brought waters of the Thames. What unfolds

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<v Speaker 2>over the next few terrible minutes will be a tragedy

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<v Speaker 2>for the city, but an opportunity for Elizabeth's stride. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the first time she has benefited from the misfortune of others,

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<v Speaker 2>but it will not be the last, before she meets

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<v Speaker 2>her murderer on the streets of Whitechapel. I'm Hallie rubin Holt.

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to Bad Women. The Ripper retold, a series

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<v Speaker 2>about the real lives of the women killed by Jack

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<v Speaker 2>the Ripper and how we got their stories so wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>One side, money plenty and friends too by the scar.

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<v Speaker 2>Then fortune smart upon me and long one pass m

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<v Speaker 2>a lonely and not twelve halfet lone seems too lovely.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm comfy from Elizabeth, Gustav's daughter, was borne by candlelight

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<v Speaker 2>in the darkness of a Swedish November. Her father tended

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<v Speaker 2>the land and rural towards landa, cultivating fields of grain,

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<v Speaker 2>flax and potatoes. He also owned a barn, several cows, pigs, chickens,

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<v Speaker 2>and a horse. The family was more prosperous than many

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<v Speaker 2>in the area, and Elizabeth grew up in a sturdy

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<v Speaker 2>clapboard farmhouse as a farmer's daughter. In the eighteen forties.

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<v Speaker 2>She would have been initiated into the routine of agricultural

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<v Speaker 2>life as soon as she was steady enough on her

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<v Speaker 2>feet to carry pails and gather eggs. When she grew older,

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<v Speaker 2>she would have assisted with milking, tending the chickens and pigs,

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<v Speaker 2>making butter, and even distilling aquavit, the alcoholic liquor traditionally

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<v Speaker 2>offered at meal times in Swedish households. Elizabeth's local community

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<v Speaker 2>was small and conservative. She was raised a Lutheran, and

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<v Speaker 2>prayer would have punctuated her days upon waking, before meals

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<v Speaker 2>and before bed, asking the Lord to shepherd his flock

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<v Speaker 2>safely through the long night. As a girl, little was

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<v Speaker 2>expected of her beyond mastery of housekeeping, childcare, and basic

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<v Speaker 2>animal husbandry, all of which she could learn from assisting

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<v Speaker 2>her mother. She therefore received little schooling. Elizabeth probably grew

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<v Speaker 2>accustomed to the constant rhythm of farm life, the turning

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<v Speaker 2>of the seasons, the cutting of the fields, the freezing

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<v Speaker 2>of the earth, the thaw, the sowing of seeds. But

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<v Speaker 2>just before her seventeenth birthday, everything changed. Elizabeth set out

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<v Speaker 2>for the city of Gothenburg to seek employment as a

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<v Speaker 2>servant in Sweden. As in other European countries, it was

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<v Speaker 2>traditional for young women to gain experience of domestic life

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<v Speaker 2>beyond the confines of their homes and communities. This was

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<v Speaker 2>seen as a kind of apprenticeship before they eventually as

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<v Speaker 2>assumed command of their own households. Elizabeth went to work

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<v Speaker 2>as a maid for a lower middle class family. Domestic

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<v Speaker 2>labour at this time was cheap and in plentiful supply,

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<v Speaker 2>so even families of meager means could afford to hire help.

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<v Speaker 2>Employers were obliged to house, feed, clothe, and tend to

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<v Speaker 2>their servants when they were ill. In return, servants offered

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<v Speaker 2>their complete obedience. Yet choosing and hiring a servant could

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<v Speaker 2>also be risky. Bringing unknown young women into the home

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<v Speaker 2>could have unpredictable consequences. There was a preference for the ruddy,

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<v Speaker 2>cheek daughters of yeomen, who smelled like grass and goats.

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<v Speaker 2>It was believed that these girls had not yet learned

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<v Speaker 2>how to deceive or steal. They were innocent and honest.

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<v Speaker 2>By contrast, urban girls had been exposed to avarice and licentiousness.

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<v Speaker 2>Although it was a master or mistress's responsibility to keep

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<v Speaker 2>them safe peril. Nonetheless, lurked at every turn for maids,

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<v Speaker 2>whether or not she encouraged the advances of the master

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<v Speaker 2>or his son, his brother, cousin, friend, or father. There

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<v Speaker 2>were plenty of opportunities for a young servant woman to

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<v Speaker 2>find herself alone with men, to be coerced, overpowered, or

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<v Speaker 2>to give in to mutual desire. And so while service

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<v Speaker 2>was believed to be the making of a young working

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<v Speaker 2>class woman, becoming entangled with a man could be her undoing.

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<v Speaker 2>Some women's lovers would promise to look after them, and

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<v Speaker 2>many made good on these pledges, establishing their mistresses and lodgings.

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<v Speaker 2>Some men lived alongside their paramours, and they posed as

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<v Speaker 2>married couples. Others visited only on occasion. Some relationships continued

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<v Speaker 2>for many years, if not a lifetime, but many more

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<v Speaker 2>fell apart within weeks. The nineteenth century double standard enabled

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<v Speaker 2>men to walk away from such attachments. By contrast, it

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<v Speaker 2>often devastated the lives of the war women, who were

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<v Speaker 2>left to bear the crying and gurgling consequences of these unions.

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<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth has taken to the grave the name of the

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<v Speaker 2>man who altered her life with his lust. It will

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<v Speaker 2>never be known whether her first encounter with him was

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<v Speaker 2>consensual or forced where it occurred or under what circumstances.

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<v Speaker 2>But by March eighteen sixty five she was six months pregnant,

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<v Speaker 2>and whoever had got her into that position was no

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<v Speaker 2>longer present to shield her from the consequences. Until the

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen sixties, in Sweden, extramarital sex and illegitimate pregnancy were illegal,

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<v Speaker 2>punishable offenses. In fact, across all Europe Bennett's colonies, sexual

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<v Speaker 2>immorality was a source of anxiety verging on paranoia. In Gothenburg,

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<v Speaker 2>the prostitution police were charged replacing women on the sex

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<v Speaker 2>trade Register, colloquially referred to as the Register of Shame.

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<v Speaker 2>There were two lists, one containing the names of knowledge

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<v Speaker 2>prostitutes and the other of suspected women, pregnant, single women,

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<v Speaker 2>women frequently seen alone with men or out at night,

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<v Speaker 2>and mistresses. The chief concern was the spread of venereal disease,

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<v Speaker 2>specifically syphilis, and bad women were seen as responsible for

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<v Speaker 2>its spread. This belief was then used to justify the

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<v Speaker 2>harsh treatment of women in legislation designed to prevent infection.

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<v Speaker 2>When her pregnancy began to show, it was surmised that

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one year old Elizabeth was guilty of lecherous living.

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<v Speaker 2>She was ordered to appear at the Police Inspection House.

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<v Speaker 2>On her first visit, she was entered into the official

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<v Speaker 2>register as public woman number ninety seven. She was then

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<v Speaker 2>further questioned and her answers included in the ledger.

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<v Speaker 3>Age twenty one years, appearance, blue eyes, brown hair, straight nose,

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<v Speaker 3>oval face, five foot two inches, slender build. I surmise

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<v Speaker 3>that this woman has not been living a life of gluttony.

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<v Speaker 2>The rules that were to govern Elizabeth's daily life would

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<v Speaker 2>then have been explained to her a lecture intended to

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<v Speaker 2>humiliate her.

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<v Speaker 3>You will attend the inspection house twice a week on

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<v Speaker 3>Tuesdays and Fridays, or face arrest and a fine, or

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<v Speaker 3>three nights in prison on rations of bread and water.

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<v Speaker 3>You will not be permitted outdoors after eleven at night.

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<v Speaker 3>You must conduct a quiet and a silent life. You

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<v Speaker 3>must not loiter in the windows or doorway of your home.

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<v Speaker 3>You must dress in a decent way when appearing in public,

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<v Speaker 3>and not call attention to yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>At the Police Inspection House, Elizabeth would have been subjected

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<v Speaker 2>to regular examinations of her genitalia. This routine was designed

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<v Speaker 2>as much to chase in the city's public women as

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<v Speaker 2>to screen them against the dreaded syphilis.

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<v Speaker 4>Syphilis is transmitted primarily through sexual intercourse, and it has

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<v Speaker 4>three key stages in its acquired form, primary, secondary, and tertiary.

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<v Speaker 2>Hanley is a lecturer in the history of science and

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<v Speaker 2>Medicine at Birkbeck University of London.

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<v Speaker 4>The primary stage is characterized by the presence of a

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<v Speaker 4>soft saw or a canker at the side of infection,

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<v Speaker 4>so in most cases this sort of been on a

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<v Speaker 4>person's genitals and this saw could appear a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>weeks to several months after infection and it would last

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<v Speaker 4>for a short period of time then disappear, and when

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<v Speaker 4>it disappeared, the patient moved into a period of disease latency.

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<v Speaker 2>The secondary stage could occur anywhere from several months to

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<v Speaker 2>several years. Later, patients would experience flu like symptoms, a fever,

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<v Speaker 2>swollen glands, a sore throat, and then the eruption of

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<v Speaker 2>a rash, as well as war like growths and lesions

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<v Speaker 2>on their genitals. Eventually, it would attack the person's central

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<v Speaker 2>nervous system. Sufferers might experience behavioral changes, including paranoia and

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<v Speaker 2>mood swings, deterioration of the spinal cord, and seizures. There

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<v Speaker 2>were other visible symptoms as well.

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<v Speaker 4>The soft tissue in a person's face begins to break

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<v Speaker 4>down this type of necrotic deterioration where a person's nose disintegrates,

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<v Speaker 4>essentially as does their soft palet in parts of their frontal.

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<v Speaker 2>Though, syphilis affected fertility too, and could be passed on

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<v Speaker 2>to a fetus before birth, so called congenital syphilis. In

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<v Speaker 2>the days before antibiotics, this was a terrible disease. So

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<v Speaker 2>as to avoid giving of fence to Gothenberg's respectable citizens,

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<v Speaker 2>all suspected and known public women were required to enter

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<v Speaker 2>the police inspection house through a concealed rear passage. Once inside,

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<v Speaker 2>they had to strip naked and form a line. Sometimes,

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<v Speaker 2>if the weight was a long one, they were ordered

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<v Speaker 2>to stand in the outdoor courtyard, shivering in the cold

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<v Speaker 2>as the uniformed officers stood over them. For a young

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<v Speaker 2>woman who had been raised in a religious community, the

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<v Speaker 2>indignant of the experience would have been shocking. However, as

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<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth was pregnant with an illegitimate child, she may well,

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<v Speaker 2>like so many women of her era, have internalized her

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<v Speaker 2>punishment as a justifiable one. Elizabeth can only have been

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<v Speaker 2>subjected to this routine a handful of times before it

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<v Speaker 2>was discovered that she was presenting the symptoms of syphilis.

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<v Speaker 2>She was immediately admitted to the cahouosit or cure House,

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<v Speaker 2>the local venereal disease hospital. These treatment centers, also known

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<v Speaker 2>as Locke hospitals, were designed for poor people. A stay

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<v Speaker 2>here carried profound stigma, and this.

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<v Speaker 4>Was in part of de terrent as well. Like the

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<v Speaker 4>shame and stigma that accompanied entry into a workhouse. A

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<v Speaker 4>similar stigma existed for the lock hospitals, and these were

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<v Speaker 4>institutions that were often seriously underfunded, understaffed, and lacked the

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<v Speaker 4>facilities needed to be able to provide people with effective

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<v Speaker 4>care even by Victorian standards.

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<v Speaker 2>Patients at these institutions were effectively imprisoned, hence the name

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<v Speaker 2>Locke hospital. Some women entered voluntarily, but many were incarcerated

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<v Speaker 2>against their will. At Gothenburg's cure House, attendants and nurses

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<v Speaker 2>used force to subdue patients. It was also overcrowded, and

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<v Speaker 2>when the number of patients exceeded capacity, inmates were made

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<v Speaker 2>to sleep on the floor. Mercury was the go to

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<v Speaker 2>treatment for syphilis at this time. The standard forms were

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<v Speaker 2>an ointment, pill, or tonic, but doctors also experimented with

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<v Speaker 2>other modes of administration.

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<v Speaker 4>Fumigation, I think is the best way to describe it.

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<v Speaker 4>So you'd sit in essentially something that looked a bit

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<v Speaker 4>like a steam room, and mercury infused vapors would be

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<v Speaker 4>pumped in and you sit there and you sort of

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<v Speaker 4>absorb it through your skin.

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<v Speaker 2>There was no standardized dosage for mercury, doctors saw its

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<v Speaker 2>administration as an art rather than a science. It was

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<v Speaker 2>also highly toxic and potentially deadly.

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<v Speaker 4>Severe Mercury poisoning could result in everything from loosened to

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<v Speaker 4>lost teeth and bettered breath all the way through to

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<v Speaker 4>hair loss and changed mental state, very similar symptoms to

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<v Speaker 4>what you might expect in the later stages of syphilis itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Pregnant Elizabeth was spared mercury but treated internally with acid

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<v Speaker 2>while her genital wartz would have been dehydrated or cut off.

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<v Speaker 2>After receiving this cure for seventeen days, she went into

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<v Speaker 2>premature labor. Elizabeth gave birth to a stillborn girl at

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<v Speaker 2>seven months while under lock and key at the cure house,

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<v Speaker 2>a birth certificate was still required. The space for the

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<v Speaker 2>father's name was left blank. Methods of treating syphilis varied

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<v Speaker 2>between countries, but they shared an underlying concept women should

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<v Speaker 2>shoulder the blame for its transmission. If the state could

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<v Speaker 2>control the morally corrupt women the disease is spreaders, then

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<v Speaker 2>the problem would be isolated. Sexually transmitted disease involves two parties,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, but male carriers were exempt from regulation. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>the idea that women, specifically female sex workers are solely

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<v Speaker 2>responsible for the spread of disease and should be punished

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<v Speaker 2>for it is one that we haven't left behind.

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<v Speaker 5>There's been a long history of sex workers being imprisoned

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<v Speaker 5>under public health justifications.

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<v Speaker 2>Grace is a sex worker from the UK who contacted

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<v Speaker 2>me after reading my work on Elizabeth's life.

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<v Speaker 5>People fear that we will be seen as vector a's

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<v Speaker 5>a disease. So unfortunately, these attitudes do still persist and

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<v Speaker 5>clients let you know about it, leave me. They will

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<v Speaker 5>say things and you fee, do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>In Elizabeth's time, as for Grace today, attitudes and fears

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<v Speaker 2>around the spread of disease caused women real physical harm too.

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<v Speaker 2>Syphilis inspections were brutally rapid. Fifty women might be examined

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<v Speaker 2>using the same medical instrument in less than two hours,

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<v Speaker 2>says Anne Hanley.

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<v Speaker 4>And that speculum was then passed to the attending nurse,

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<v Speaker 4>who sort of cursorily disinfected it for use on the

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<v Speaker 4>next patient. There's no way that these diagnostic examinations were thorough,

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<v Speaker 4>and there's no way that they were hygienic. In many cases,

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<v Speaker 4>women who may not have had a venereal disease were

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<v Speaker 4>being infected by the very process of examination to determine

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<v Speaker 4>whether or not they were infected.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if women seemed to respond to the rudimentary cures

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<v Speaker 2>on offer and were released from the hospital, their slate

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't white clean. Criminal convictions followed those who had been

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<v Speaker 2>inmates at Locke Hospitals, and once a woman appeared on

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<v Speaker 2>a police register, she would not be able to secure

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<v Speaker 2>respectable work. One of the only ways that she could

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<v Speaker 2>actually sustain herself would be to resort to the profession

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<v Speaker 2>she had been accused of practicing. Constitution. Elizabeth joined the

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<v Speaker 2>ranks of women who sold themselves on a notorious Gothenburg

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<v Speaker 2>thoroughfare known mockingly as the street of many nymphs. As

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<v Speaker 2>open solicitation on the street was forbidden, she would have

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<v Speaker 2>traded discreetly indoors at a brothel, perhaps, or in a coffeehouse.

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<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth had been publicly denounced as a whore, had suffered

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<v Speaker 2>the indignity of police examination, had discovered she carried a

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<v Speaker 2>potentially deadly and disfiguring disease, and had been incarcerated and

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<v Speaker 2>subjected to excruciating medical procedures. Estranged from her family and

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<v Speaker 2>from respectable life. She had then been released onto the street,

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<v Speaker 2>with no friend to whom she could turn in the city.

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<v Speaker 2>It was now that the symptoms of syphilis returned and

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<v Speaker 2>medical incarceration was ordered once more. But just when things

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<v Speaker 2>looked to be at their bleakest, an opportunity appeared, one

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<v Speaker 2>that would changed elizabeth life forever.

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<v Speaker 1>the one about the COVID sniffing dogs. Well, we've gone

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<v Speaker 1>all part of the same doggy industrial complex. But something

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<v Speaker 1>else happened. Some of the dogs became Rhodies. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>heard of Eric Church, the country music star who has lyrics.

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<v Speaker 6>Like we recently were part of a Wall Street Journal

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<v Speaker 6>article and if you read the article, Eric Church says

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<v Speaker 6>that having the COVID dogs probably saved the tour that

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<v Speaker 6>all came about because you know, someone within their Church's camp.

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<v Speaker 6>Was a Revisionist History fan and heard the.

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast that's by Detection Canine president Jerry Johnson. You heard him,

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<v Speaker 1>music and canines. The Dogs are now backstage COVID sniffers,

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<v Speaker 1>and not just for Eric Church. They're touring with bands

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<v Speaker 1>including the Black Keys and Metallica heavy metal Canines. To

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<v Speaker 1>work with these bands, the Lucky Dogs and their handlers

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<v Speaker 1>travel on the road with the crew.

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<v Speaker 7>How's everybody doing today, I just say, by your mind,

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<v Speaker 7>if I've run the logan dog over the whole part us,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm just gonna you just stand in a single ball

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<v Speaker 7>line and just go ahead and relax your arms on

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<v Speaker 7>your side and the dog will target the left hand.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly on the day of the show. Mindian Lord to

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<v Speaker 1>adorable German chep for Belgian Melinoise begin work long before

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<v Speaker 1>the music starts.

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<v Speaker 6>So typically the dogs will show up depending on the

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<v Speaker 6>first call, anywhere from five thirty to six thirty in

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<v Speaker 6>the morning, and the first people on scene are usually

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<v Speaker 6>the recording artists people, so they'll come in different shifts

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<v Speaker 6>depending on what their jobs are, so they'll come in

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<v Speaker 6>groups of anywhere from three to ten. The dogs are

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<v Speaker 6>prepositioned at the entrance and everybody comes in. They stand

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<v Speaker 6>in a single file line facing the dog, teams about

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<v Speaker 6>six feet apart, and everybody's kind of socially distanced. And

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<v Speaker 6>then what we have them do is they stand facing

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<v Speaker 6>the dog, nothing in their left hand, and the dog

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<v Speaker 6>comes down and sniffs their left hand. Takes about a

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<v Speaker 6>second per person, and then you know, when they're done.

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<v Speaker 6>Then they go about and do their work. The dogs,

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<v Speaker 6>I think are probably the most popular. I almost call

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<v Speaker 6>them people the most popular individuals on the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 6>When people arrive, they can't wait too you know, they

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<v Speaker 6>automatically go to where they need to stand so they

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<v Speaker 6>get sniffed. That.

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<v Speaker 7>So you you're such a three girl.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my goodness, I help you.

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<v Speaker 4>What's smart? Baby? So smart?

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<v Speaker 4>That's so crazy.

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