1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Good Monday morning. 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 2: Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz. 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Ben Ferguson with you as always, and Senator We've got 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: a lot to talk about it today's show, including nationwide 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: injunctions against Donald Trump. 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 2: Well, this is the latest evolution of law fair and 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: the plan from the radical left, the plan from Democrat 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: state attorneys general, the plan from left wing activist groups 9 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: is sue, sue, sue, and go to left wing activist judges, 10 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: particularly the ones that Joe Biden and Barack Obama put 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: on the courts, and use them to try to shut 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: down the entirety of the Trump agenda. It's not going 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: to succeed, and it is unprecedented. We're going to do 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: deep dive and explain what's going on and how it 15 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: is so far out of step from what any other 16 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: president has faced. We're also going to talk about the 17 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: fact that yet another anti American, anti Israel radical has 18 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: had his student visa revoke the Trump administration. President Trump 19 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: is serious that if you are an enemy of America, 20 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: they are going to remove you from this country. You 21 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,639 Speaker 2: do not have an entitlement to have a student visa 22 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: and to be here, and to threaten other students to 23 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: threaten violence. We're going to break that down as well. 24 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is shocking. We're going to dive into 25 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: all that in just a moment. 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Democrats weaponize our government and the court 53 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: system and the DOJ when they were in charge, when 54 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: they were in the White House to go after Donald Trump, 55 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: even raiding his home in mar Lago. But now that 56 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: he's the president again, the tactic has changed, but the 57 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: outcome they're hoping is still going to be, in essence 58 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: the same, which is to stop Donald Trump at all costs. 59 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: Well, the left is willing to abuse the legal system 60 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 2: to try to subvert democracy. Understand, the four times Trump 61 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: was indicted, that was all about stopping democracy. This is 62 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: while Democrats were strutting around like peacocks claiming to be 63 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: defending democracy. But the reason they brought those indictments is 64 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: they were terrified the voters were going to do what 65 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: they in fact did, which was reelect Donald Trump, and 66 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: Democrats wanted to stop the voters from being able to 67 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: do that. Right now, the voters have voted for President Trump, 68 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: the voters have voted for a Republican Senate, for a 69 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: Republican House, and the left they don't care. They're angry. 70 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: They're angry at the voters, and so they're going to 71 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: the courts to try to prevent the President and the 72 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: Congress from following through on the mandate from the voters. Now, 73 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: let me lay out some numbers to give you just 74 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: sort of a level of comparison in the entirety of 75 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: the George W. Bush administration two terms, the Barack Obama 76 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: administration two terms, and the Joe Biden administration. How many 77 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: times do you think there have been nationwide injunctions issued 78 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: since two thousand and one. 79 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to go like zero to one. 80 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: No, No, there have been more than that. There have 81 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: been thirty two, thirty two against Bush, Obama, and Biden. Now, 82 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: how many nationwide injunctions do you think there have been 83 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: in the first two months of the Trump presidency. 84 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna not even try to guess, because I know 85 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to be wrong. 86 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 2: Thirty seven. 87 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: Wow, So we've already outnumbered all those other presidencies combined 88 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: in essence. 89 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: So two months we've had more nationwide injunctions than eight 90 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: years of Bush, eight years of Barack Obama, and four 91 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: years of Joe Biden. Now that in and of itself, 92 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 2: both of those are a huge shift from what it's 93 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 2: been historically. Now, in the entire twentieth century, how many 94 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 2: nationwide injunctions do you think there were? No clue? Twenty 95 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: seven wow. So in one hundred years there were twenty seven. 96 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: Then in twenty years of Bush, Obama and Biden there 97 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: were thirty two, and now in two months there have 98 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 2: been thirty seven. This is a dramatic shift. And look, 99 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: let's go back to the history before, before we had 100 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: a constitution, before we had our legal system, we had 101 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: the British the common law and in English equity, which 102 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: is before we had the founding of the United States, 103 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 2: you couldn't have injunctions against the crown. A judge could 104 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: not enjoin the crown because the Chancellor was part of 105 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 2: the crown. It was the same authority. And that continued 106 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: for the first one hundred and fifty years of the 107 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: United States. Now what happened. It used to be that 108 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,119 Speaker 2: there was an explosion of executive powers in the New Deal, 109 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: and that led to a lot of injunctions. But those 110 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: were injunctions that only restricted the government's actions with respect 111 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 2: to the parties to the case. Now, all right, let 112 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: me ask you something, Ben, one of the two of 113 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 2: us has a law. Agree. Let me let me ask 114 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: a simple question. What do you think an injunction is? 115 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: An injunction is where a court steps and says you 116 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: can't do that. We are stopping you from doing what 117 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: you said you were going to do. 118 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 2: So that's actually that is quite good. At injunction is 119 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:56,239 Speaker 2: ordering someone either to do something or not to do something. 120 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: But it is an order from the court for someone 121 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: to comply with its order. And and that is in 122 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: distinction to an order for damages. So so you think 123 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 2: about a civil suit. You know, if if if I 124 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: run over your cat and you sue me, the court 125 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: can say, all right, pay Ben one thousand dollars for 126 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: his for his cat. That would be an award in damages. 127 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: An injunction historically has been with respect to the parties 128 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: of the case. So, for example, if if I keep 129 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: running over your cats. If you have ten cats and 130 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: I run over a cat a week, that's it. 131 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: I have way too many one liners. Keep going, I 132 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: don't want to You're a cat guy. I gotta be 133 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: careful here. 134 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: No, I'm a daughter guy. Let's be clear. So I 135 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: do have three cats, but that's because I have two daughters, 136 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 2: and in particular I have my eldest daughter, so she 137 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: has three cats. And I love my daughters, and so 138 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: we have three cats in our home. You're a boy, dad, 139 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,119 Speaker 2: and so cats are not a part of your life. 140 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, and it's one of the best blessings 141 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: I've ever had from them. 142 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: Keep going, Well, an injunction could be let's say, a 143 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: court might order me to not drive my car within 144 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: five hundred yards of your house. That would be an 145 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 2: injunction against the parties of the case. Now what is different, 146 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 2: and by the way, so for example, and you would 147 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: have those injunctions against the government, but again they were 148 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: limited to the party. So for example, there were sixteen 149 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: hundred injunctions issued against the enforcement of one statutory provision, 150 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: which was the processing tax in the Agricultural Adjustment Act. 151 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: But those were each dealing with individual parties. So you 152 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: had a party who brought a lawsuit and said, imposing 153 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 2: this statutory provision, this processing taxed on me is contrary 154 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: to law. And sixteen hundred times judges agreed and ordered 155 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: the government don't enforce the law with respect to ben. 156 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 2: But just because you got an injunction saying don't enforce 157 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 2: that law with respect to you, doesn't mean that I 158 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: was protected by it. And if I wanted to fight it, 159 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: I had to go to court too. So that used 160 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 2: to be the way it would happen. And then there 161 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: were judicial reforms in nineteen thirty seven that Congress took 162 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: a unusual mechanism, which is a three judge district court. 163 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 2: So ordinarily in the federal courts you have district judges, 164 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: single district judges, then you have courts of appeals, then 165 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: you have the U. S. Supreme Court. Well, Congress created 166 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: this weird hybrid that was a three judge district court. 167 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: So it was three different judges, but they were a 168 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: district court, and if you were seeking injunctions against a 169 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: federal statute, you had to go to a three judge 170 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: district court, and then you had a direct appeal to 171 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court, so it's skipped, it skipped the courts 172 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: of appeals altogether. However, that ended in nineteen seventy six, 173 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 2: and that ended in significant part because the Supreme Court 174 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 2: had their caseload was growing dramatically because of that. And 175 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: so now just about every lawsuit starts in a federal 176 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 2: district court, if you're in the federal system, then goes 177 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: to a federal Court's of appeals, and then the Supreme 178 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 2: Court has discretionary review. They don't have to hear it, 179 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 2: they can that shift, that shift meant the mechanism of 180 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: a three judge district court was no longer there to 181 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: limit how often an injunction would be given. And then 182 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 2: it has been really it's been the activist judges that 183 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 2: Obama and Biden have put on the courts that has 184 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: led to this explosion of nationwide injunctions. It's one thing 185 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: to say, this party in front of me, I'm issuing 186 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 2: an injunction concerning the government's conduct about ben. It's another 187 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: thing to say, I'm enjoining the government. You can't do 188 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 2: X against any person in the United States of America. 189 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: That is a dramatic expansion in the authority claimed by 190 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: one single judge. 191 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: So you look at this expansion and it's very clear 192 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: that this is now war, and it's war that's been 193 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: declared by these judges. Then what is the remedy here. 194 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: We've heard about the idea of impeachment of judges. We've 195 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: heard that this is one of those moments where it's 196 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: in essence unpressing the number of judges that are trying 197 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: to have nationwide power instead of and really overstepping. What 198 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: is this strategy here and what does that look like 199 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: to fight because it's very frustrating. If you're a voter 200 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: and you're voted for Donald Trump's agenda, he wins. The 201 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: majority of Americans support the agenda, and now you see 202 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: these judges who were in many cases elected by no one, 203 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: who are now saying, no, no, we can trump Donald Trump 204 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: in the entire country with one ruling. 205 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: Well, to be clear that the judges were not, in 206 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 2: many cases elected by no one, and they were in 207 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: every single case elected by no one. The mechanism that 208 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 2: every one of these judges became a judge is they 209 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 2: were appointed by the president, whoever the president was at 210 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: the time, and they were confirmed by the United States 211 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: Senate and so no federal judges elected. There are a 212 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: number of checks and balances on judges. One check and 213 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: balance is impeachment. However, impeachment, unfortunately, is not going to 214 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 2: be effective against this abuse of power. And I'll tell 215 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: you why. Even if so impeachment would take it actually 216 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 2: operates very much the same way as impeachment operates against 217 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: the president or against an executive officer, which is the 218 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: House impeaches, and it takes only a majority in the House. 219 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 2: So conceivably, if all the Republicans joined together, they could 220 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 2: impeach one of these judges. Now, impeaching, however, it is 221 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: not removing the judge. It is the equivalent of bringing charges. 222 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 2: It is the equivalent of indicting, like a grand jury indicts, 223 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 2: which is to bring criminal charges against someone. Impeaching is 224 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: the same thing. And a majority of the House can 225 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 2: impeach any judge. If the House chose to do so, 226 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: and every Republican stood together, they could impeach a judge. 227 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 2: But the chances that any of these judges would be 228 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: removed for issuing these nationwide injunctions are zero point zero 229 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 2: zero percent. Now why is that? The reason is because 230 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: for the remedy that under the Constitution, the impeachment trial 231 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 2: occurs in the Senate, and in order to convict, whether 232 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: it's the president or a cabinet member or a federal judge, 233 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 2: you need two thirds of the Senate. Now, we do 234 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: not have sixty seven Republicans in the Senate. We only 235 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: have fifty three. That means we would need at least 236 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 2: fourteen Democrats, and that's assuming every Republican stood together. The 237 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: chances of fourteen Democrats voting to convict any of these 238 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: radical left wing judges for issuing nationwide injunctions against Trump 239 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: are zero. And understand why the Democrats in the Senate 240 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: hate Trump. These are the same people that sat there 241 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 2: and refused to applaud for the President, refuse to applaud 242 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 2: for the mothers of women raped and murdered by illegal 243 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: immigrant criminals. These are the same Democrats that refuse to 244 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 2: applaud for a thirteen year old kid fighting to overcome 245 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: brain cancer. The Democrats are not going that they're cheering 246 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: on these injunctions. They want more lawlessness, and so impeachment 247 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: is not going to be effective now. Secondly, another remedy 248 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: is that Congress can restrict the jury urisdiction of the 249 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 2: federal courts, and Congress has brought authority to restrict the 250 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 2: jurisdiction of the federal courts. Actually, Congress could abolish the 251 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 2: district courts. There's nothing in the Constitution that creates district courts. 252 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 2: The only court created in the Constitution is the Supreme 253 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: Court of the United States. And Congress created the lower courts, 254 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: the district courts, and the Courts of Appeals to process 255 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 2: the volume of cases. But Congress has brought authority to 256 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 2: limit the jurisdiction of the federal courts. But again, to 257 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: exercise that authority in the Senate, you would have to 258 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 2: overcome the filibuster, which means you would need sixty votes. 259 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 2: We have fifty three Republicans. The chances of any Senate 260 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 2: Democrats voting to limit the jurisdiction of federal judges issued 261 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 2: nationwide injunction, if it's not zero, it's damn close to zero. 262 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: So those remedies are quite limited. What does that mean? 263 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 2: The remedies are the remedies are number one, Sunshine drawing 264 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: attention to it and listen. I am right. I am 265 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: the chairman of the Judiciary Committee Subcommittee on Federal Courts, 266 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: Oversight Agency action and federal rights, and so I am 267 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: going to be sharing hearings focusing on this, focusing on remedies, 268 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 2: and one remedy to consider, should we return to a 269 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: system where you have a three judge district court to 270 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: consider challenges to the constitutionality of federal statutes. I think 271 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 2: there's a lot to be said for returning to that now. Again, 272 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: I expect Democrats to oppose that, but I think focusing 273 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: on it, discussing it, shining a light on it is 274 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 2: important to counteract law fair. And then I think the 275 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 2: real remedy is nominating and confirming good principal judges to 276 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: the federal courts, to the district courts, to the court's 277 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: appeals to the Supreme Court, and then reversing these adjunctions 278 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: on appeal the legal process. It's going to take the 279 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: Supreme Court stepping up. I don't know if they're going 280 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: to do so. There are opportunities right now, multiple opportunities 281 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 2: right now. But the most likely mechanism to rein in 282 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: this abuse is going to be a Pellet review because 283 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 2: the Senate Democrats will oppose just about anything else. 284 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 1: So when you look at this and there's just a 285 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: frustration and the frustration is how are they getting away 286 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: with this? And are is this going to be what 287 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: it's going to be like for the next four years? 288 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: And how do we make sure that this doesn't continue on? 289 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: And why is it that they don't have to play 290 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: by the same rules, like it seems like it's just 291 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: law fair running back and every time the American people 292 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: stand up. So there's a genuine frustration here, and I 293 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: hear what you're saying, but for people that it was saying, well, 294 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: is there any other option? Like how do we win 295 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: and yet we still lose? 296 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 2: Well, Look, there was a recent article in the Harvard 297 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: Law Review by a professor named Samuel Bray, and he 298 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 2: surveyed every nationwide and junk issued from nineteen sixty three 299 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 2: to twenty twenty three, so sixty years. In that period, 300 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty seven injunctions nationwide. Injunctions were issued. 301 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 2: Just over half of them were issued against Donald Trump 302 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 2: during his first term, And if you break it down, 303 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: sixty four were issued against Trump, twelve were issued against Obama, 304 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: fourteen were issued against Biden. So those are the numbers 305 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 2: for the first term. And then, as I said, in 306 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 2: the first two months we've already had thirty seven, so 307 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: the numbers are are dramatic. Now here's an interesting stat 308 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 2: from Professor Bray's article. Of the sixty four nationwide injunctions 309 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 2: issued against Trump policies in the first term, how many 310 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: of them do you think were issued by judges appointed 311 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: by a Republican? 312 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: Oh, gosh, I'm going to say not as many as 313 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: the Democrats. But I could be wrong, because there's been 314 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: some Republican judges that shocked all of us recently. 315 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: Well that's true, But here the numbers are pretty encouraging. 316 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 2: Of the sixty four nationwide injunctions issued against Trump policies, 317 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 2: only five were issued by judges appointed by a Republican, 318 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 2: Which means that ninety two zero point two percent of 319 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: injunctions issued against President Trump in the first term against 320 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 2: his policies were issued by judges put on the court 321 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 2: by a Democrat ninety two percent. And the pattern is 322 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 2: very simple. H they're going and they're forum shopping. They're 323 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,719 Speaker 2: going and they're looking for friendly judges. They're going and 324 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 2: looking for radicals who will hate the president and who 325 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 2: will issue injunctions trying to fight back. Now, the fact 326 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 2: that they're forum shopping. It's frustrating, but there's a longer 327 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: term remedy and a shorter term remedy. The longer term 328 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: remedy is put more good judges on the courts, and 329 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 2: the shorter term memory it is appeals and hopefully getting 330 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 2: the Court of Appeals to reverse it. And for example, 331 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 2: one case that's going on right now, it is a 332 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 2: case called Trump versus CASA, and in January, President Trump 333 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 2: issued an executive order revoking birth rights citizenship for illegal 334 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 2: aliens and those in the country temporarily. Now, the legality 335 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 2: of that order is contested. People disagree on that, and 336 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 2: that is going to be litigated. Well, three different district 337 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,479 Speaker 2: courts issued preliminary injunctions and response, now, where were those courts? 338 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 2: One was in Seattle, one was in Maryland, one was 339 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 2: in Massachusetts. So there's a reason they're going to blue 340 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: states and they're finding really left wing judges. The Supreme 341 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 2: Court has a chance to address the issue of nationwide injunctions, 342 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 2: and on March thirteenth, the Acting Solicitor General of the 343 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 2: United States, Sarah Harris, asked the Supreme Court to partially 344 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 2: stay the preliminary injunctions, and she argued the nationwide injunctions 345 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 2: were overbroad. She asked for them to be limited to 346 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 2: the plaintiffs in each case or at most the residents 347 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 2: of the states challenging the orders. So it should not 348 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 2: be nationwide, it should only apply to those litigating and 349 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 2: Chief Justice Roberts asked for a response to the Solicitor 350 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 2: General's request by April fourth, So this is being litigated 351 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 2: right now. Now. It's possible the Supreme Court will decide 352 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 2: it on its emergency docket, which is the docket where 353 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 2: you get emergency appeals from injunctions, or it could wait 354 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 2: for full merits briefing, and that could take months or 355 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 2: even years. But these cases could provide a mechanism, and 356 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 2: I hope they do provide a mechanism to limit and 357 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 2: rein in these nationwide injunctions that are clearly being abused. 358 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: So let me ask you one other question on this 359 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: just layman terms here. If there is a loss by 360 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: a judge who does with of these injunctions, does that 361 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: then have precedent over other judges around the country, or 362 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: can other judges then just say well, I'm going to 363 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: take up the torch and buy more time and be 364 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 1: an activist as well. 365 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it can definitely be the latter. And so 366 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: now it depends. It depends where the loss occurs. So 367 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 2: if a district judge issues an injunction and it gets 368 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 2: appealed to the Court of Appeals and the Court of 369 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 2: Appeals reverses that injunction, that reversal binds all the district 370 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 2: judges in that circuit, so their circuit's all over the country. 371 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 2: So for example, Texas is in the Fifth Circuit, and 372 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 2: the Fifth Circuit governs only those states that are in 373 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 2: the Fifth Circuit. On the other hand, if the case 374 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 2: goes up to the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court issues 375 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: are ruling that precedent binds federal judges across the country. 376 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 2: So the real answer, hopefully is to get this to 377 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court and get a good Supreme Court ruling 378 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: limiting the power of judges to issue nationwide injunctions. This 379 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 2: is clearly something that is being abused and it is 380 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 2: crying out for the Supreme Court to rein it in. 381 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: So do you think that in the near future there's 382 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 1: a what are the odds this can go to the 383 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: Supreme Court and that this can at least have some 384 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: sort of like present on the countries that the president 385 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: can do his job. 386 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: Look, it can go to the Supreme Court. It is 387 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: at the Supreme Court right now. The question is are 388 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 2: there five justices willing to rein it in? And we 389 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: have seen in some of these early cases sometimes the 390 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 2: answer is yes, sometimes the answer is no. And so 391 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 2: it's going to come down to Chief Justice Roberts. It's 392 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 2: going to come down to Justice Amy Cony, Barrett and 393 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: Neil Gorsich and Brett Kavanon. We'll see how how they rule. 394 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 2: I feel very confident that that that Clarence Thomas and 395 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 2: Samuel Alito are are more than ready to rein in 396 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 2: the abuse of nationwide injunctions. But I don't know if 397 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 2: there are five justices or not. 398 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: Senator I want to move to the other story that 399 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier, and this goes in the category of 400 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: promises made, promises cap for Donald Trump. Another pro Haamas 401 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: protester is in serious trouble after his actions on a 402 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: college campus. This is making liberal heads explode. But this 403 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: is exactly what the President said he was going to do, 404 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: and he's making good on that promise yet again. 405 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: Well, and this is something we discussed in the podcast. 406 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 2: You and I did at Seapack when we interviewed Pam 407 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 2: Bondi and we talked about the fact that the Trump 408 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 2: administration is going to go after these radical anti Semitic, 409 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: anti American, anti Israel protesters. And if you threaten violence 410 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 2: against fellow students or if you are attacking America, you 411 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 2: have no entitlement to be allowed into this country. And 412 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 2: it's interesting you're seeing Democrats who are suddenly discovered free speech. 413 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: Mind you, when it comes to to Americans speaking, they 414 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 2: don't give a damn about free speech. When it comes 415 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 2: to big tech censoring you, they don't care about free speech. 416 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 2: American citizens have no First Amendment rights, and the Democrats 417 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 2: bizarre lexicon. But if you are a vicious anti Semite, 418 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: if you hate America, if you hate Israel, and you're 419 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 2: not an American, well then suddenly they think you're protected. 420 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 2: And it is insane. So the latest radical who had 421 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 2: his visa revoked is a student at Cornell and he's 422 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 2: an individual named Mommodo Tal now Momodo Tal, according to 423 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 2: the Washington Free Beacon, is a graduate student who has 424 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 2: called for the destruction of the United States. Has celebrated 425 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 2: the October seventh attacks by Hamas and has said that 426 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 2: he takes his quote Q from the armed resistance in Palestine. Now, 427 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 2: who is Mammado Tal? He is a British and gam 428 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 2: being dual national, so he's not an American. And he 429 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 2: began studying in Cornell twenty twenty two on an F 430 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 2: one student visa. That student visa has been revoked. Good 431 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 2: and Tall received an email from the Department of Justice 432 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 2: that said ICE invites mister Tall and his counsel to 433 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 2: appear in person at the HSI office in Syracuse at 434 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: a mutually agreeable time for personal service of the notice 435 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: to appear and for mister Tall to surrender to ICE custody. 436 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 2: And of course what did Tall do? He engaged in 437 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 2: law fair and wet and final lawsuits seeking to block it. 438 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 2: Now what has Tall said? Tall has said, Number one, 439 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: He's called on fellow student protesters to take their cues 440 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 2: from the arm resistance in Palisine, armed by the way, 441 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 2: not just resistance, armed resistance. He has also said, quote, 442 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 2: we are in solidarity with the arm resistance in Palestine 443 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 2: from the river to the sea. He also said just 444 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 2: after October seventh, hours after he said quote, the dialect 445 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 2: demands that wherever you have oppression, you will find those 446 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 2: who are fighting against it. Glory to the resistance. Now 447 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 2: the dialect, Look, this guy is a communist, he's a Marxist. 448 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 2: We talked about how cultural Marxism they divide the world 449 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 2: into oppressors and victims, and they actively cheer on the 450 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 2: violent revolution of the so called victims against the so 451 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 2: called oppressors. Now, this is ours after October seventh. This 452 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 2: is as women and little girls are being raped, as 453 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 2: twelve hundred civilians are being murdered. And here is what 454 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: he's saying. The dialect demands that wherever you have oppression, 455 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: you will find those who are fighting against it. Glory 456 00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 2: to the resistance. That's not all he said. When he 457 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 2: applied for his student visa, he wrote quote, and this 458 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 2: is on Twitter, the end of the US Empire in 459 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: our lifetime in shallah. Months later, the idiots in the 460 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 2: Biden administration gave him his student visa and he wrote, 461 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 2: student visa issued. We are going to America, baby alham 462 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 2: di lula. I don't know what that means, but I'm 463 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 2: guessing it is not nice. Shortly thereafter, he tweeted my 464 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: hatred of the US Empire knows no bound Walahai. Again, 465 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 2: I don't know what that means, but I'm guessing again 466 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 2: it is celebrating against America. One other thing he posted 467 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: quote when the enemy is US imperialism, then absolutely anyone 468 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 2: the US calls an enemy is my friend. Let me 469 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 2: be clear, this anti American, anti Semitic radical who hates 470 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 2: America needs to get the hell out of our country. 471 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 2: He has no entitlement to be here, and we have 472 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 2: no obligation. We have no legal obligation, We have no 473 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 2: constitutional obligation, and we certainly have no moral obligation to say, hey, 474 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: people who hate America, people who say quote anyone who 475 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 2: calls the US an enemy is my friend. You know 476 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 2: what if that's true, get your ass out of this country. 477 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 2: We don't need you here threatening Americans. 478 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: It really is about threatening Americans and threatening kids on 479 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: college campuses. And we've seen anti semitism, for example, that 480 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: is just skyrocket on college campuses, and a lot of 481 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: this is well organized. We continue to see that a 482 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: lot of these agitators and protesters are acting in groups 483 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: and pre planning this around the country, and that has 484 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: to be very concerning. I think not only for college students, 485 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: but especially for students that are Jewish, but really concerning 486 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: for I think everyday Americans understand that we've been allowing 487 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: these people in and this is what they're doing. 488 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 2: And understand the threats. Let me read you another tweet 489 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 2: that he sent quote, we are actually living in an 490 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 2: e fing alternative reality, although he did not abbreviate fing. 491 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: Zionists living comfortably in the US and Zionist Jewish students 492 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 2: at Ivy League institutions are claiming to be unsafe, scared, 493 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 2: and somehow everyone is calling for their genocide, whilst in 494 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: four K we are witnessing a genocide of the Palestinian people, 495 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 2: and many of these same folks who claim to feel 496 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 2: scared are cheering on the actions of the IOF BFFR. 497 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 2: I don't know what that means. Every single Zionist is 498 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: a sick, sick individual and there can be no path 499 00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 2: forward except for the complete eradication of Zionism materially and mentally. 500 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 2: And then he tweets a little bit later, Zionists are 501 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 2: indeed the chosen people chosen for Hell. Now understand one 502 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,959 Speaker 2: game that anti Semites play, which is many times they 503 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: use the word Zionist when what they mean is jew 504 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 2: and they just think it's It's like, oh, I'm pretending 505 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 2: to be slightly less bigoted by calling it Zionists. Look, 506 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 2: they consider an ani Actually, at one point says Zionist 507 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: slash Jewish students, This is an anti Semite who hates 508 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 2: Jews and who is calling for the complete eradication of Zionism, 509 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 2: by which he means the complete eradication of Jews. And 510 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 2: he says they are the chosen people, they are chosen 511 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 2: for Hell. This is a bigot who hates America. And 512 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 2: you know what was happening after the Trump administration moved 513 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 2: to deport this radical leftists were protesting in support of him. 514 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 2: And by the way, have you heard a single Democrat 515 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 2: in the Senate speak out in favor of revoking his visa. No, 516 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 2: you had left wing activists on Cornell protesting his deportation 517 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 2: on Thursday and they were chanting hands off MoMA do, 518 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 2: waving signs opposing mass deportation. Listen, any reporter, every reporter 519 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 2: ought to ask the Democrats do you believe we have 520 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 2: to give student visas to people who say they're enemies 521 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 2: of America and hate America. It's there's no legal basis 522 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 2: for that. And I have yet to see a Democrat 523 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 2: explain why they cheer on pro hamas radicals. But I 524 00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 2: got to say, let's say you're a moderate Democrat but 525 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 2: not swept up the in the sort of Trump derangement syndrome. Anger. 526 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 2: You gotta ask why Washington Democrats when they look at 527 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 2: October seventh, when they look at the radicals on campuses, 528 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 2: why the Democrats say we stand with Amas and we 529 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: stand with the PROPOMAUS protesters. That's got to make you 530 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 2: wonder what the heck has happened to the Democrat party. 531 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: All right, don't forget. We do this show on Monday, 532 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: Wednesday and Friday. So hit that subscriber, that auto download 533 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: button wherever you're listening, And if you'll help us grow 534 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: by sharing this podcast anywhere you're on social media. 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