1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Official Jets Podcast. We're presented by wind 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: pat Betting is a team sport bet together at wind Bet, 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: Eric Ellen at Bart Scott Here for a final time 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: as we recap the two thousand twenty two season. Let's 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: start it right there, Bart Robert Sale, the Jets head coach. 6 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: When the players return from Miami on Monday, inside their 7 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: lockers they had black T shirts hung within white the 8 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: word finished printed on them. What do you think about 9 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: that as a message as this team heads away for 10 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: the off season. Well, I think it's appropriate message, right 11 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: when you think about the Jets in their season and totality. 12 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: They got out to a fast start, but understanding that 13 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's a Battle of Atrician and it's a marathon, 14 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: not a sprint, and it's how you finished. And I 15 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: think they got an education on what it's like to 16 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: play in high pressure, tense games and when both sides 17 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: and both teams need the game equally being able to 18 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: match the intense the intensity of your opponent, but also 19 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: being able to match the eticity at the moment and execution, 20 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: and understanding that these games usually come down to who 21 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: makes the play, who don't make the play. We talked 22 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: about it a little bit last week, but looking back 23 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: at it, the Jets when they left Denver there were 24 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: five and two, but during that game, Breece Hall goes down, 25 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: Elijah Vera Tucker goes down. The Jets never seemed to 26 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: recover after that. I would argue that the high point 27 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: of their season actually was without both of those guys 28 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: in the lineup. They beat the Buffalo Bills at home. 29 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: They were once uh, six and three, but of course 30 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: they start seven and four overall any year on a 31 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: six game losing streak. My point on this, my question is, yes, 32 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna point to Hall and a v t as 33 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: those injuries being devastating, but in your mind, what went 34 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: wrong for the Jets overall? Why did they lose six 35 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: games down the stretch with the playoffs in the grass? Okay, 36 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: you can you can say why different different ways, but really, 37 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: if the what right? They weren't able to run the football, 38 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: they weren't able to score in the red zone, and 39 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: in pivotal times, they weren't able to get stops, and 40 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: also you know, special teams and being able to execute 41 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: on special teams cost them. Now you can talk about 42 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: the why, but that that will take a lot longer 43 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: than probably we have you know, slotted for this show. 44 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: But the what is that's what really happened. They became 45 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: one dimensional. They couldn't run the football, and they couldn't 46 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: get a lead to let that great defense play from 47 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: in front, and it forced them to have to play 48 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: and throw the ball far too much, which exposed their 49 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and ultimately led to them not getting to where 50 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: they wanted to be. All right, So quarterback instability plagued 51 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: the Jets throughout the your. It was ironic that Joe 52 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: Flacco started this season for this team against the Baltimore Ravens. 53 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 1: The team team ends the year in Miami and Joe 54 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: Flacco is the starting quarterback. In between, we saw Zack 55 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: Wilson get a couple of stints. He was benched a 56 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: couple of times. Mike White came on uh gave it 57 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: a go. Unfortunately the Ribs wouldn't let him play uh 58 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: down the stretch, and we even saw Chris s traveler. 59 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: When you look at where the Jets are at from 60 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: a roster perspective and a cat perspective, what do you 61 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: think Joe Douglas and Robert Sale should be thinking about 62 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: the quarterback position heading into three. Zack Wilson obviously on 63 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: the roster, but Joe Flacco and the four mentioned Mike 64 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: White free agents. Well, when you look at it, they 65 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: got to decide who's going to be their backup. You know, 66 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco wants to be a starter. Mike White believes 67 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: that he's a starter. You think about Joe Flacco, maybe 68 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: easier took evince that, hey, sit here and b our 69 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: emergency backup. Um, but if you're saying that, I think 70 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: you have to address the position, you know, and look 71 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: at all the available since that you have, whether it's 72 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: Jimmy g who has you know, continuity and familiarity with 73 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: Robert Sale. Rather you think about, you know, David Carr, 74 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: you know, and thinking about Darren I'm sorry, Derek Carr 75 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: and considering you know, he's available. You know, that's something 76 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: that you might have to make a quick decision on it. 77 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: It might be too quick for the Jets when you 78 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: think about his contract expires and he's you know, they 79 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: have to make the Raiders have to make a decision 80 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: three days after the Super Bowl. That means that those 81 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: conversations have to start. Now you talk about the other guys, 82 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: Geno Smith, are they going to decide in Seattle to 83 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: to to use that high pick that they have for 84 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: a quarterback? And what does that mean for Geno Smith? 85 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: What does it mean for Sam Donald and Charlotte? Right, 86 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: so it's so many guys that are gonna shake louse 87 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: not on you thinking about all options. Tom Brady is 88 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: the free agent. What's gonna happen there? Right? You have 89 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: to consider everything Aaron Rodgers does, Aaron Rodgers want to 90 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: come back, and Planner needs the same Roger. That's why 91 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: you really have to have some some feet on the 92 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: ground to be able to get in some of these 93 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: inner circle conversations to see what's likely to happen. You 94 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: have to have multiple plans. If this guy shakes flues, 95 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: do we what? What are what are we willing to 96 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: give to him? And how does that affect the entire roster? 97 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: And that's all the things and equations. You have to 98 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: have Plan A, Plan B, Plan C, Plan D. You 99 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: have to put it in and you may have to 100 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: move fast, but sometimes the flowing steady wins the race. Yeah. 101 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: Bottom line here, as our external analysts, you can talk 102 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: about guys with expiring contracts and also look at how 103 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: the Domino's potentially might fall in the NFL's off season. 104 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,239 Speaker 1: We got a ways to go before we get to March. 105 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Wilson in particular. Solid said this week, 106 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: through hell or high water, we're gonna be committed to 107 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: developing this young player. What do you think Wilson has 108 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: to do just as he starts his third professional off season. 109 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: I can't believe we're talking about his third professional off season, 110 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: seeing like yesterday walked through the door here at one Drive. Yeah, 111 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: but it may still be time for a gap here. Uh. 112 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: You just sometimes you gotta take a step back, and 113 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: you know, you always have to consider whether it was 114 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez, whether Sam Donald, whether Zack Wilson, you know, 115 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: really being forced to start and not really having a 116 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: real backup to teach him how to be a pro. 117 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: When you think about some of the most elite players 118 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,559 Speaker 1: in the league right now, there were guys that played 119 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: a lot of football in college. Whether you to talk 120 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: about Josh Allen, I don't care what the competition was, 121 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: he played a long time. You need not just look 122 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: at Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco was that pit transferred with 123 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: the Delaware, played a lot of football. You look at 124 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: the guy like Mac Jones, a guy who came in, 125 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: it seemed like he was more pro ready than everybody 126 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: in that class. He played a lot of football. It's 127 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: set and waited right, and unfortunately the Jets haven't been 128 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: able to bring in a young quarterback and allow him 129 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: to sit and grow. I remember a time when Philip 130 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: Rivers came in. He sat behind Drew Brees before he 131 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: was given the keys to the car. You talk about 132 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, who had played a lot of football, set 133 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: behind Alex Smith. You talk about Carson Palmer, who was 134 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: the number one overall pick, set behind John Kittner. But 135 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: you know, I think we got spoiled by Joe Flacco, 136 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez. Seeing guys come in and now Joe Burrow 137 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: come in and really have success, that's very, very rare. 138 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: But it doesn't mean that your quarterback is not good 139 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: because he doesn't look like them this first or second year. 140 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: It just means that you have to have a plan. 141 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: And they said maybe they made a mistake. You heard 142 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: the floor, You heard, you know, Robert say here, Hey, 143 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: maybe we rushed this kid along too fast. And sometimes 144 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: when you want a good meal. You gotta let him marinate, 145 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: You gotta let it simmer, You gotta let all the 146 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: things come together. Because he doesn't have the experience, because 147 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the reps in college. So now how 148 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: do you get him those reps? You see it happening 149 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: with Jordan's Love. You saw it happen with Aaron Rodgers. 150 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: Why do we think that Zach Wilson would be any different. 151 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: Jets lost a great man in the NFL community lost 152 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: a great man when Greg Knapp was tragically struck out 153 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: on his bicycle um by a distracted driver. He was 154 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: hit by distracted driver. He was going to be assigned 155 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: to Wilson. He was gonna be such a big presence 156 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: in here, wasn't he a Looking back at it two 157 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: years into his career. Number One is, obviously, you're never 158 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: going to replace a person, and Nap was beloved throughout 159 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: the National Football League. But his wisdom and his experience 160 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: and the work that he did with so many quarterbacks 161 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: in his time, it was going to help not only Wilson, 162 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: but the entire coaching staff and the Jets organization people. 163 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of times people think about the coordinators, 164 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: but they don't think about the pieces like you know, 165 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: I spent more time with my you know, with you know, 166 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: Bob Sutton, you know what I mean, you know, an 167 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: intimate moment in helping my development. You know, it's not 168 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: always about the coordinator. Sometimes it's about the individual coaches. 169 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: And you know that was brought into to help like 170 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: he did with Michael Vick, like he did with Steve y'all, 171 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: to bring all that knowledge and wisdom that he has 172 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: collected over not just you know, from certain from all 173 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: different types of quarterbacks. When you think about it, you know, 174 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: you think about the different styles in which he helped guys, 175 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 1: and that's knowledge that you know, unfortunately left with Nap 176 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: and they're gonna have to find a way to try 177 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: and assign somebody to him that can teach them and 178 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: developing somebody that's having those private conversations in the back 179 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: of the meeting room that you think about Peyton Manny, well, 180 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: it's Tom Moore and what he did all all the 181 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: time and helping pay many who struggled his first couple 182 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 1: of years as well, trying to turn over and change 183 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: the stripes of an organization. Same thing is different. I 184 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: think we got so excited, and we kind of rushed 185 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: his kid along. And now they have to come with 186 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: a different plan to figure out what's the plan moving forward. 187 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: But at the same time, they have to bring in 188 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: somebody that can help deliver now because this roster is 189 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 1: ahead of schedule. Speaking of the roster being a hind 190 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: of schedule, that's a perfect transition. If the Jets are 191 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: indeed quarterback shopping for a veteran here in a couple 192 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: of months. How attractive if a destination has this become 193 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: because of the pieces around the quarterback position. I mean, 194 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's a it's a very attractive destination. Right. 195 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: Everybody sees how hard the Jets played. Everybody sees that 196 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: they're right there on the doorstep. And you know, if 197 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: they average twenty two points of games, the Jets average 198 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: twenty two points a game, they'll be they would have 199 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: won eleven games. Right, that's the reality of it, right, 200 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: And you know you're thinking that, Hey, if I'm a 201 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: free agent, I'm saying, hey, I can come and be 202 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: that different. They have they have the money to really 203 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: get my services. Um, and I believe that this team 204 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: is it's right there, right, I wouldn't be surprised if 205 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: if they became the Cincinnati Bengals, or if they had 206 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: the same fortunes and made the same leap as the 207 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: San Francisco forty Niners. Right to go from seven uh 208 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: seven wins too. Winning the division happens all the time. 209 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: It's usually about that right there. They established a culture, 210 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: They have a young core. These young cores can continue 211 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: to get experience. Guys are going to continue to develop. 212 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: The system is going to continue to get mastered, and 213 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: then now you take the next step. So they gotta 214 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: go out and they gotta show up some more pieces. 215 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: But Joe Douglas in the last two years have brought 216 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: in young, talented depth for this team to be able 217 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: to be successful in their future. Are their positions in need? 218 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: Um here? When you look at the roster overall, maybe 219 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: we start with the offensive line. Nine different starting combinations 220 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: this year. Center Connor McGovern is a free agent. I'm 221 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: sure Dwayne Brown's got to figure out what he wants 222 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: to do. George Fant is a free agent as well. 223 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: You hope a v T is back a percent next year, 224 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: Lankin Thomason back next year. But would you start there 225 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: with the offensive line and McKay Backton sound very good 226 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: the other day. It's a very important offseason for him, 227 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: no doubt about that. Well, at this point with McKay, 228 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: Beckton is a luxury because he's never been available. I've 229 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: never been able to play it full season. So you 230 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: hope that he can, but you can't rely on that 231 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: because huge history tells you that you won't be able to. 232 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: But if I'm if I'm the Jets, I'm spending heavily 233 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: in the free agent market, and if I had to 234 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: target one person, it's somebody that Joe Douglass really knows 235 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: and I believe understands his pedigree. And I'm looking at 236 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: the fact that Orlando Brown Jr. Is playing on the 237 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: franchise tag and they couldn't come up with the deal. 238 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: So if I'm if I'm looking at the Jet this 239 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: is a guy that's a four time Pro Bowler, a 240 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: guy that's twenty seven years old, only played five years 241 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: in this league that it's went to the Pro Bowl 242 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: the right tackle and left tackle. Once he paid as 243 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: a left tackle. Joe Douglas was there with his father, 244 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: Orlando Brown Senior. I think that would be the perfect replacement. 245 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: For not only a Becting can't get back, but also 246 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: for fat and Dwayne Brown that you can ask you 247 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: that and have him right next to lengthen Thompson right there, 248 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: and then the Vera Tucker comes back. Then now you're 249 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: looking at the fact that in Becting comes back, you 250 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 1: have a right tackle, but you have a security blanket 251 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: for for Beckton already and Max Mitchell coming back off 252 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: from the blood clocks. So now you already have a 253 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: built in the right tackle that can sit there. But 254 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: now you know you have a all Pro Pro bowler 255 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: right there at left tackle. You know you talked about 256 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas building this line the right way. Orlando Brown 257 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: has I don't believe ever missed the game, and if 258 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 1: he has, he's missed one and he's going to I 259 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: believe his third or fourth Pro Bowl and just five 260 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: short seasons. So I think you address it there. And 261 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: also you look at, you know the fact that Briefs Hall, 262 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: we we know that he's a superstar, but unless he's 263 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, he's not gonna come back and hit the 264 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,599 Speaker 1: ground running. So I would love for the Jet to 265 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: go out there and go get a Kareem hunt who 266 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: wanted to be traded. A guy that understands how to 267 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: share a back field, a guy that also understands how 268 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: to play at the high level. He's a great receiver 269 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: of the ball. And now I feel confident that I 270 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: don't have to rush briefe Hall back immediately. Quinnin Williams 271 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: was vocal that he wants a new deal. Judge G. M. 272 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas said, Hey, we love Quinnin. We want him here. 273 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: Robert Salo I talked to him about you throughout the year. Sen. 274 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: He's the guy that you of on the field, off 275 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: the field, he does everything right. Do you anticipate this 276 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: deal getting done? And Quinnin put a timeline on it 277 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: and some players do that. You've been around h You've 278 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: been part of the negotiations that happens with players and teams. 279 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: He wants to have a deal done before the start 280 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: of O T s Yeah. I mean because he wants 281 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: to make sure that we're all creatures that habit. He 282 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: wants to make sure that he's here and able to 283 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: participate in off season programs due to things that have 284 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: made him successful and that allows him to make that jump, 285 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: and he wants to just get to the security. He's 286 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: done everything the right way. And you know, we know 287 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: what the market is. The market is anywhere from twenty 288 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: four to twenty eight million dollars per right, Aaron Donald 289 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: at the high end, and you think about some of 290 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: the other guys in the middle, Chris Jones and all 291 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: that stuff. I think quinnin comes frowhere in the middle. 292 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: And the salary cap continues to go up. The Jets 293 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: aren't paying a lot of other players and other positions. Yeah, 294 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: I think they addressed that, and I think, you know, 295 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: they have some tough decisions because they may have some 296 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: cap casualties, but that's just football, right, They have some 297 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: tough decisions. And I'm sure they're gonna sit in this 298 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: room and say, Okay, who from this team and this 299 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: roster is going to be part of our future and 300 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: who time as a Jet has come to an end. 301 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: And that's just the reality of every football team. Win 302 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: bet is bringing the excitement of wind Las Vegas to 303 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: online sports betting and casino play. 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Um. 321 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: So when you look at this, if you're Joe Douglas 322 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: and you hit a grand slam with your draft class 323 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: last year, um, what do you think about your messaging internally? 324 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: Because last year, of course he said, we gotta be 325 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: playing meaningful games in December. The Jets played meaningful games 326 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: in December. They set themselves up for that. Unfortunately, weren't 327 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: able to cash in down the stretch, as you love 328 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: to say, the dash for the cash. Well, the Jets 329 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: were out of coins late. How do they make sure 330 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: that at Okay, we're not just playing meaningful football in December, 331 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: we're playing meaningful football in January next year. Well, you 332 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: gotta stack to debt, right. You gotta have a tremendous 333 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 1: offseason and free agency, and you have to make sure 334 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 1: that you have a tremendous draft. You gotta be able 335 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: if you can get a draft class. Not like just 336 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: I don't want to just highlight this draft class. I 337 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: want to highlight the draft class before because I feel 338 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: like Elijah Moore is a star. They got to figure 339 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: out a way to get him more involved, and that's 340 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: what the off season is all about. I think that 341 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: Mims can still contribute at a high level. I think 342 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: he showed a lot of maturity by being able to 343 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: be ready, to stay ready and do everything the coaching 344 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: staff asks them to. You can look at Beer Tucker 345 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: coming back, but also Breece Hall. You talk about you know, 346 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: being able to find bad Night and what he's able 347 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: to do. They're also high Jeremy Rucker, the tighten from 348 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: Oil State, right, So I mean that's what I'm speaking of. 349 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: So you talking about Jeremy Ruckers, so you talk about Okay, 350 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: let's look at the tight end room. Does he graduate 351 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: into being a big contributor? That means that somebody has 352 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: to has to go. That's just the nature to whenever 353 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: you can go younger, cheaper, you go there. And you know, 354 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: the Jets have a couple of positions in which I 355 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: believe that they've done a great job in developing the 356 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: people behind the starters, and it's time for them to 357 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: get an opportunity and I think I look forward to 358 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: seeing that. But also if they can get three or 359 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: four guys, you know, that can be uh like brief like, 360 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: you know, they don't need the contributions that they got, 361 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: but you know, Jermaine Johnson stepping up and being able 362 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: to be a starter next year. I think that's what 363 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: you hope for from a first round draft pick. And 364 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: you know, if they can get three or four contributors 365 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: there were rather on offense or defense, then that just 366 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: you know, makes the team younger and cheaper and still 367 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: equally as good. How excited are you about today for 368 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: mauch of Jeremaine Johnson, and also talk about Michael Clemens 369 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: a little bit the depth that he provides because Johnson, yes, 370 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: he's a powerful player and he was so accomplished after 371 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: transferring from Georgia, Georgia to Florida State leading the A 372 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: C C and sacks, but we are he really impressed 373 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: me was his mobility, his feet, his lateral movement. It's 374 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: really exceptional. Yeah, I mean you talk about everybody's gonna 375 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: highlight the play where he ran down drosh Allen, who 376 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: thought he had to angle on him, but he was 377 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: able with that four uh five or four six forty. 378 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: I don't I forget what it is to be able 379 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: to run them down and also have the strength and 380 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: to know how to be able to use the proper angles, 381 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: you know. And you talk about Michael Clemens, he's a 382 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: guy that's kind of still rough around the edges, and 383 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: these guys can get a lot of polish, Like you 384 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: go to these training facilities, you know, take a couple 385 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,479 Speaker 1: of weeks off and get back to work. Especially when 386 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: you're a young guy. You have a lot of holes 387 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: to feel. You know, go back and go to a 388 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: pass rushing camps and you know, go howl that Chuck 389 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: Smiths and get and get your mind right and go 390 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 1: down there with all those great pass rusher that he has. 391 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: Go back to your colleges if that's the place where 392 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: you feel comfortable at, and start working on your craft 393 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: and start understanding the game, and you look forward to 394 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: the game slowing down for young players like that. You know, 395 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: just imagine where Quinnin has come from where we saw 396 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: him his first year. His second year, he realized the 397 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: type of shape that he needed to be in to 398 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: compete at a high level. He did an necessary improvement 399 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: and then he continued to get better. That's all you're 400 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: asking for these guys to get better, to not be 401 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: the same player you were last year, to take steps forward, 402 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: not backwards. What do you make of the Jets standing 403 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: inside the NFC East? The Bills three time a consecutive 404 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: champion now of the division, but the Jets split with 405 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: them this year, and they had a chance late in 406 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: that game up in Buffalo the Dolphins that was a 407 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: split as well. Um the Jets closed out the year 408 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: their Miami makes the playoffs and then New England was 409 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: in positioned actually to make the postseason as well, but 410 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: they swept the Jets. What do you think overall when 411 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: you look at the division where the Jets standing is 412 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: right now, I mean you're right there right you can 413 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: be they can be first, so they can be last. 414 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: That's that's the beauty of being in any division that 415 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: they're playing with guys and teams that you know, one 416 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: has the greatest coach of all time, one has you know, 417 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: tremendous weapons and exposed to ability to put points on 418 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: the board, and the other one has been on the 419 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: top of the hill for the last three years. Now, 420 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: you got to ask yourself, who's the rabbit who we're 421 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: chasing right now? Everybody's chasing the Buffalo Bills because they're 422 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: the cream of the crop in the division. But that 423 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that they're invincible. Like it can be one 424 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: of those things like the NFC North used to be 425 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: where you know, no guys repeat, you know as as 426 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: the champion, right, you know, success in this league and 427 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: status in his league is least it's not on and 428 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: Rents do every year, every week, every play and so 429 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: let's see if the Jets are able to, you know, 430 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: be able to put in the work to pay the 431 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: price to be the boss. The cost to be the 432 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: boss is going on and everybody is getting a little 433 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: bit better and for the organization to be able to 434 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: improve this football team, be a draft, trade or free agency. 435 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: What do you think about these young rookies, not about 436 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: just the way they played on the field. I'm talking 437 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: about Sauce Gardner, Garrett Wilson, who I think should be 438 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: the defensive rookies the Year and the offensive Rookie the year. 439 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner said, We're gonna be in the playoffs next year. 440 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: Jared Wilson said, this is never going to happen again. 441 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,959 Speaker 1: Speaking to the Jets woes down the stretch, what do 442 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: you think about their attitudes and what they brought to 443 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: this locker room. I thought they brought a lot of 444 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: swag and a lot of professionalism. Because they brought they 445 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: backed it up. Um. I hope that they looked around 446 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: and they saw like the guys that were older than 447 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: them and saw what the reality is because at some 448 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: point that's always going to be you. Right now, they're 449 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: feeling vigor because they understand that they have a tremendous 450 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: opportunity to play for the next decade, but they have 451 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: to understand that at one point that decade will come. 452 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: So I think the message to the young guys, because 453 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: this is a young team, look at those old guys 454 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: and realize that time is precious and you can't take 455 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: any of that time for granted. The time is always now, 456 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: you know. So you don't waste the rep. You don't 457 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: waste uh a practice, you don't waste the game, you 458 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: don't waste the season because you never know in this 459 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: world and this league, when that when you're player is 460 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: being played, there's those guys surpass your expectations. I mean, 461 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: Gardner was incredible lead the NFL and pd S. I 462 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: know he wants to get his interception total up next year. 463 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: Uh and it's good that he's gonna be striving for 464 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: something next But nobody got off against the Jets on 465 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: the outside. You gotta credit both him and d J. 466 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: Reid of course, so I would argue were the best 467 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: cornerback Tannum in the National Football League. And then Garrett Wilson. 468 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: We talked about quarterback instability. The guy at eleven hundred 469 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: yards receiving this year. Yeah, it's amazing. Writ and really, 470 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: with no threat of a run game late in the season, 471 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: you know, you you want to figure out because it 472 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: seemed like they were taking turns right when Briefe Hall 473 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: was there for three weeks. The offense went through brief 474 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 1: and you saw Wilson's production kind of dip. You got 475 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: to figure out a way to kind of get both 476 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: of them going at the same time, which makes the 477 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: Jet so much harder to defend. So yeah, I'm trying 478 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: to think. I think the goal for Briefe Hall and 479 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: the goal for Garrett Wilson is to be the best 480 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: running back receiver tandem with those type of numbers, because 481 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: you want to be able to have and provide that balance. 482 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 1: And I think if they get that balance and they're 483 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: able to find a way to get both of these 484 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 1: guys going at the same time, the Jets, if they 485 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: if protection holds up, an offense line has improved, um 486 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: could be really really something special. Agreed. Uh. Speaking of 487 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: old players, I'm not calling C. J. Mosley old, but 488 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: comparably to a couple of those guys in the locker room, 489 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: he is a gray beard. He said he wants the 490 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: players to watch the postseason and it should hurt. What 491 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: do you think about that? The message coming from one 492 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: of the captains inside that room, But I think it's appropriate. Right, 493 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: You can't turn yourself off and say I'm not gonna 494 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: watch football because I want to see anybody getty. I 495 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 1: think you need to get that pain. I think you 496 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: need to be able to get that hurt. But also 497 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: you need to pay attention to the type of caliber 498 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: of football that has been played during the postseason to 499 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: know it's expected, to know what the expectations should be, 500 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: and know what the degree of difficulty is going into 501 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: environments watching guys make mistakes, watching God's rise to the occasion, 502 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: so that you when you get in that position for 503 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: the first time, you feel like you've been there and 504 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: you know what it takes to win playoff football. All Right, 505 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: we're gonna put you on the hot seat real quick. 506 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: This weekend's games predictions. Seattle at San Francisco forty is 507 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: a big favorite, should be and I think they're gonna win. 508 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: And you know, I think that it's been a great 509 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: season for Seattle. Next year we fall of that draft 510 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: Capital day guy Jamal Adams coming back. I think it 511 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: it would be a much fair fight when you think 512 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: about Seattle and San Francisco, how about the l A 513 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: Chargers and the Jacksonville Jaguars. Jaguars beat him up pretty good, 514 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: but that was earlier in the year. How do you 515 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: see that playing out? I mean, I think that you know, finally, 516 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: you know, you look at how healthy um the Chargers 517 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: are getting. I think, you know, ultimately, I think Justin 518 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: Herbert is slightly better UM and I think the fact 519 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: that both is back. If Mike Williams back is intact, 520 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: I think outside it would just be too much to 521 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: handle from a defensive standpoint with Austin Ekeler, who I 522 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: feel it's like one of the most undervalue to underappreciated 523 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: running back in the game. With Keenan Allen and Williams 524 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: on the outside, think it would be a bit much. 525 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: And if they continue to get healthier. I hear that 526 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: Slater is starting to practice. He won't be here for 527 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: that game, but they can be a team that's dangerous 528 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: late in the season as well. Dolphins each one out 529 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: over the Jets and the regular season finale that was 530 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: eleven and six score. They're going to Buffalo. That's gonna 531 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: be a tough challenge with Skyler Thompson getting the start 532 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 1: at quarterback. Yeah, they can only put up nine against 533 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 1: the Jets. I think now it's just too much. And 534 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: if they were just going to have a chance, they 535 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: needed to a tongue about load to be available. And 536 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: the fact that maybe hambling is going to show to 537 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: the game is going to be a very emotional scene. 538 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: I think the Bills will be able to ride that 539 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: the victory and then a big victory at that interesting 540 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: game between the Giants in Minnesota Vikings. The Vikes won 541 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: a lot this year and the Jets and know this 542 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: all sleep well a lot of people I think probably 543 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: left their locker rooms after playing Minnesota thinking they should 544 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: have won the game, and the Giants had a close 545 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: one with them in a regular season. How do you 546 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: see this one playing out? I mean, I think when 547 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: you talk about rematches and went down to a sixty 548 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: one yard field goal, When you talk about rematches, you 549 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: have to ask yourself what coaches staff do you trust 550 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: to make the necessary adjustment to be able to have 551 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: plan and plan b Kevin O'Connell, who we all know 552 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: dearly um is a young coach, but he's very limited 553 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: as far as being able to make adjustments, you know, 554 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: in this game, I think you give the ads to 555 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: Brian day Ball and Wink Martin Dell and being able 556 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: to go on the rematch and devise a plan that 557 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: if the Minnesota Bikings didn't sure up some of the 558 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: things that they were vulnerable to last time, then they 559 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: can exploit that. But if they come with something new, 560 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: I feel like they'll be able to have a CounterPunch 561 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: to the punch of Minnesota. I think, you know, Minnesota 562 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: is a very, very very vulnerable you know favorite this 563 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: week Monday Night Football, the Dallas Cowboys. They look very beatiful, 564 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: but they're playing a Tampa Bay team that has struggled 565 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: mightily throughout the year as well. It seems like a 566 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: toss up on paper. How do you see it playing out? 567 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the current the recent play 568 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: of Dak Prescott. You look at what he's been doing 569 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: as far as you know interception the seven straight games, 570 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 1: some of those were picked six is before that a 571 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: lot of the turnovers was in his own territory. So 572 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: that concerns you. And more pressure is on the Dallas 573 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys than anybody, right you talked about their coordinators are 574 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: um names are out there for hey, coaching jobs. You 575 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: talked about Mike McCarthy, you talk about the expectations before 576 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: the season for Dallas Cowboys, when you talked about Jerry 577 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: Jones saying, hey, you know we should the expectation go 578 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: deep in the playoffs, not just make the playoffs. They 579 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: didn't win the division, and you know, so I look 580 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: at the guy like Tom Brady who was playing with 581 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: house money, a team that has a very very strong pedigree. 582 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: He talked about via Bata coming back. Uh, Kim Hicks, 583 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: who was hurt early in the season went back. Should 584 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: be able to maybe make that Dallas run game one dimensional. 585 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: And then if that happens, it's gonna put it on 586 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: the shoulders and Dak Prescott. It's gonna be a very 587 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: interesting game. This is a game that is going to 588 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: have ramifications and more. Nobody has more pressure on them 589 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: in the playoffs and Dallas Cowboys because on paper they 590 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: should beat Tom Brady. But how many times have we 591 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: said that about the goat Who's gonna be playing in 592 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: the super Bowl in Arizona. I believe that it's going 593 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: to be San Francisco and the Cincinnati Bengals. Mmmm. Okay, 594 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna hold you to it because we're 595 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: keeping receipts here on the official pod. You know that, right. God, yeah, Hey, 596 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: for the seats, Hey enjoyed it this year. I hope 597 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: you did as well. For the fan base because you 598 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: know that very well. Yeah, well, listen, the Jets are 599 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: in position. Next year is the year where you have 600 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: to make the layoffs. Next year is a year where 601 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: everything comes together. The thing has been simmering and we 602 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: thought it was ready. We checked the temperature, we cut 603 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: the meat, and they were still not ready yet. So 604 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: next year should be ready. Trusting Joe Douglas and Roberts 605 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: Howls to make all the right decisions, Woody Johnson as well, 606 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: to make sure that this team is going in the 607 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: right direction. You have a tremendous foundation, you know, and 608 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: you got a basement. Now it's time to go ahead 609 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: and build a rooftop outside that great stop. Partner, always 610 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:28,719 Speaker 1: a pleasure