WEBVTT - Finding The Right Work (How-To Monday)

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<v Speaker 1>BA, fam, we have another how to throw back for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course we do all month. We're looking back at

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<v Speaker 1>some of our favorite episodes from days past, for memorable

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<v Speaker 1>guests to unforgettable moments. There's still so much to learn

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<v Speaker 1>from the b A Vault. Take a listen, will ya?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Hey, it's Q and A with BA.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm excited A Q and A so happy today. Q

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<v Speaker 3>and A are they gonna say?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 4>So we're going to write into it. This is our

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<v Speaker 4>special bonus episode. So BA brid a mission, Q and

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<v Speaker 4>A Question and answer. You ask your question, you get

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<v Speaker 4>your answer. And remember we are not financial advisors. We

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<v Speaker 4>are not I don't know whatever legal schmiegel AKA see

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<v Speaker 4>your grandma, not us, goid to us. Now, we're just here.

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<v Speaker 3>Just don't see your grandma either, but especially but if

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<v Speaker 3>you go to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody, I prefer your grammy. But me and Manny are

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<v Speaker 2>just here.

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<v Speaker 4>We are literally just sharing our opinion and it is

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<v Speaker 4>up to you to lean into the expert in your life,

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<v Speaker 4>to vet verify and to follow through. Okay, Okay, Mandy,

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<v Speaker 4>who's our first person?

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<v Speaker 3>I love this question, Carl. Yes, I saw this question

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<v Speaker 3>on instain. I'm so glad that producer Sarah picked this

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<v Speaker 3>one out. Carl says, I love the podcast and what

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<v Speaker 3>you both are doing to empower our community. I just

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<v Speaker 3>started a new remote job in March that I enjoy

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<v Speaker 3>for a solid company with great benefits. I'm making eighty

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<v Speaker 3>five K, the most I've ever made in a low

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<v Speaker 3>cost of living area. I've been getting recruiters sliding into

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<v Speaker 3>my dms on LinkedIn, and I finally decided to chat

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<v Speaker 3>with one. She has a role that's one hundred percent remote,

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<v Speaker 3>same industry for about one hundred and thirty five K

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<v Speaker 3>per year. The only issue is that it's a six

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<v Speaker 3>to twelve month contract attempt to hire role, so I

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<v Speaker 3>have the uncertainty of it. We're also building a house,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know that banks get a little bit weary

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<v Speaker 3>when there's big changes in a financial situation. What do

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<v Speaker 3>you think? Am I crazy for considering the move from

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<v Speaker 3>something reliable to something potentially uncertain. My initial thought is

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<v Speaker 3>don't worry until you get the offer. But my wheels

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<v Speaker 3>are already turning. Ooh, this is a juicy ooh, juicy juicy.

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<v Speaker 4>Although there is one huge component that makes me say,

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<v Speaker 4>sir Carl, but I'm gonna let you rock with it.

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<v Speaker 3>What you say, Mandra, No, tell me what what what

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<v Speaker 3>caught you?

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<v Speaker 2>What caught you?

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<v Speaker 4>A Carl story, the part that caught me everything else.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, Oh, you know, maybe i'd make the leap,

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<v Speaker 4>but building a house.

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<v Speaker 2>Carl, that makes me nervous. Now here's the thing. I've

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<v Speaker 2>never built a house. I do know.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's just say, if you were, you know, house shopping,

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<v Speaker 4>and you were like, I'm thinking about getting a mortgage,

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<v Speaker 4>this would literally be the worst thing you could possibly do.

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<v Speaker 2>If you switch jobs before.

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<v Speaker 4>You close, they're almost sure to be like you thought, Carl, bruh,

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<v Speaker 4>we gave you this loan based upon your current financial situation.

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<v Speaker 4>You have now changed it to one that makes us

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<v Speaker 4>feel a little nervy. Nervy, Like I'll give you an example.

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<v Speaker 4>So I make like significantly more than my husband. But

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<v Speaker 4>my husband has worked for where he works for for

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<v Speaker 4>the last like twenty nineteen years. When we were looking

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<v Speaker 4>to get a mortgage, he actually was the one that

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<v Speaker 4>they were like, we don't want to talk to Siphany.

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<v Speaker 4>You're really cute. Well you cute with sure many years

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<v Speaker 4>of work at a solid job.

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing?

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, what I make a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 4>They're like, yeah, yeah, what's your shaky entrepreneurship. It's not

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<v Speaker 4>cute over there. So that's the part that just makes

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<v Speaker 4>me a little nervous, is that, I don't know, with

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<v Speaker 4>building a house, if you kind of like lock in,

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<v Speaker 4>you've already locked in your financing and they can't take

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<v Speaker 4>it away.

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<v Speaker 2>But that makes me a little shaky. Saki, what say you, manajoin?

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<v Speaker 3>I completely agree with you. Two big red flags, that

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<v Speaker 3>being one. The second one is yes, they're offering one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and thirty five K, so that's fifty k more

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<v Speaker 3>than he's from my mathematics are correct, fifty k more

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<v Speaker 3>than he's making now. But it's a contract role and

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<v Speaker 3>with that means they are not giving you ne'er one benefit,

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<v Speaker 3>probably no four to one K matching, probably no healthcare,

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<v Speaker 3>probably no free be this and free be that. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's why you're seeing an inflated salary. And

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<v Speaker 3>also you're gonna have to you know, if they pay you.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if they'll take out taxes, but you

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<v Speaker 3>may have to set aside some of that for taxes

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<v Speaker 3>as well as well. So I would ask those questions

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<v Speaker 3>for sure, especially if you're seriously entertaining this offer, you

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<v Speaker 3>really should know exactly what this means to you. I

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<v Speaker 3>see you said you're building a house. You say, we

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<v Speaker 3>so I assume you have a partner, you know, if

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<v Speaker 3>they can provide you health benefits or if you're not

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<v Speaker 3>missing out on any benefits that you are at your

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<v Speaker 3>current employer, you know, maybe that is a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>more in favor of the more higher paying role. At

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the day, I think Tiffany's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 3>As long as you're building this house, and my little

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<v Speaker 3>brother's actually building a house right now in Atlanta. Sure,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's I know, I so kind that he He's like,

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<v Speaker 3>nobody calls me Drake, but you only on your podcast. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 3>no people at Public's hey, Drake, listen, Carl the while

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<v Speaker 3>you're building your house, you know. The good thing for

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<v Speaker 3>me And what I would say is like, this role

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<v Speaker 3>is being offered to you now at six to twelve

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<v Speaker 3>month contract. You know, you could hang around at this

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<v Speaker 3>great paying job that you have for another six months

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<v Speaker 3>and you can know, you know, maybe your house is

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<v Speaker 3>done then or you've got that out of the way,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you know people are offering jobs like yours. Remotely.

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<v Speaker 3>This doesn't mean this is the only opportunity. I would

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<v Speaker 3>be excited by this. I'd be excited and be like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh shit, people are willing to pay a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>money from my position on a contract basis. So when

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<v Speaker 3>I'm ready, they should still be some opportunities available. But

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<v Speaker 3>you know, for right now, while you're building this house,

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<v Speaker 3>let's just have some financial stabilities so that you and

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<v Speaker 3>your partner, you know, are not completely screwed over when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to the banks if you're you know, getting

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<v Speaker 3>a mortgage or alone, like you say, like you sound

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<v Speaker 3>like you are. Wow, But congrats, that's exciting. And I

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<v Speaker 3>feel the same way about like, yeah, when I went freelance,

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<v Speaker 3>it was like, oh, you can't say yes to everything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's exciting to know that there's other opportunities that arouse.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody wants to get chosen. You got chos food buying,

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<v Speaker 2>two people.

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<v Speaker 3>So all right, thank you so much, Carl. What about

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<v Speaker 3>number two? You want to read this one? Too?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure?

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, ladies, I'm considering jobs in higher education outside of

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<v Speaker 4>California because I'm not getting any callbacks or job offers here.

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<v Speaker 4>I had three interviews in twenty twenty and thus three

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<v Speaker 4>and twenty twenty one and nothing. I mean, one job

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<v Speaker 4>went well as far as calling my references and still nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>I've applied out of state to Arizona, Texas and other states.

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<v Speaker 4>My question is how do I check the compensation rate

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<v Speaker 4>for the new job in a new state? My question

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<v Speaker 4>is how do I check the compensation rate for the

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<v Speaker 4>new job in a new state and to see if

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<v Speaker 4>it's comparable to working in California. I know there are

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<v Speaker 4>no jobs across state lines offering salary matching. I just

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to be undervalued while moving to working in

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<v Speaker 4>a new state and not get paid my value. Thank

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<v Speaker 4>you so much. I love y'all and the show. So

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<v Speaker 4>let me just like download. So it's like you're looking

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<v Speaker 4>for work higher education. I'm assuming you meaning in colleges

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<v Speaker 4>or you know, that's what I'm thinking. So you've had

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<v Speaker 4>all these interviews, still nothing has come back. But you're

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<v Speaker 4>trying to basically compare working from state to state to see.

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<v Speaker 2>How much money is.

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<v Speaker 4>Like obviously, California the coast typically pay more than other states.

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<v Speaker 4>So you're just like, you know, it's California's ninety thousand.

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<v Speaker 4>Texas is fifty thousand, So you're trying to look is

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<v Speaker 4>that was that what you're getting from this that she's

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<v Speaker 4>trying to figure out, like having a pair compensation rate

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<v Speaker 4>from state to state.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think she's preparing herself to possibly be getting

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<v Speaker 3>offers from these out of state jobs that are less

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<v Speaker 3>than what she's possibly expecting in California, but she wants

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<v Speaker 3>to know how low should she go. My question is

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<v Speaker 3>you know, even now with this pandemic life, is the

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<v Speaker 3>job going to be remote or are you going to

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<v Speaker 3>be moving to these states. If you're moving to the states,

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<v Speaker 3>I would say definitely, you should get your expectations adjusted.

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<v Speaker 3>And you can do that by doing a search online,

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<v Speaker 3>pay Scale, glass door. They may have location specific salary advice.

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<v Speaker 3>You can also there's cost of living calculators. We can

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<v Speaker 3>link to a couple in our show notes that maybe

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<v Speaker 3>would help you. But also even if there's a forum,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a Facebook group or community or a professional

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<v Speaker 3>organization wherever you may find your peers in other states,

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<v Speaker 3>you could ask one of them to give you just

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<v Speaker 3>to be a sounding board for some of the offers

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<v Speaker 3>that you're getting. But if you're moving, yes, I say

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<v Speaker 3>adjust your expectations. If they're going to allow you to

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<v Speaker 3>be remote and work in California, you know, you could

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<v Speaker 3>justify expecting a bit more as you do have a

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<v Speaker 3>higher cost of living. You know, for example, if you

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<v Speaker 3>want to stay in California, they may say, maybe the

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<v Speaker 3>pay is a little bit lower, but we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>let you stay in California. You don't have to uprat

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<v Speaker 3>your life. You know, that's an additional benefit to you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's definitely a conversation, but it's a little bit nuanced,

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<v Speaker 3>and for me, it's really down to where are you moving?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, are you going to stay in California and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, will they expect you to accept a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a lower pay because they're going to let

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<v Speaker 3>you stay remote, or will you, you know, move to

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<v Speaker 3>these new states.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like she's wanting to move.

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<v Speaker 4>She's looking like basically, she's like, I don't you know

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<v Speaker 4>how Like I know, and like, because I live in Jersey,

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<v Speaker 4>I could tell you like what teachers make on average,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and like what's what's low, what's high. She's

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<v Speaker 4>basically like, I'm not trying to move to a new

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<v Speaker 4>state only to find out the Texas people they tricked

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<v Speaker 4>me that in Texas this is actually low. So I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to thinking in New Jersey, where would I

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<v Speaker 4>find the information of like I feel like it's not

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<v Speaker 4>with the Google search, right, Like what do teachers make?

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<v Speaker 4>Let's pretend you're trying to be a teacher. What do

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<v Speaker 4>teachers make in New Jersey? Because what they'll do is

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<v Speaker 4>they'll actually list, especially for higher education, they'll list kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like the expected salary. So that way that should

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<v Speaker 4>give you like a range of like what you should

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<v Speaker 4>look into. Like, well, okay, if I go to Texas

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<v Speaker 4>and I see that for my position, you know the

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<v Speaker 4>average pay is eighty thousand and they're offering you sixty,

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<v Speaker 4>then you know it's on the low end.

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<v Speaker 2>But education is a space that you can.

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<v Speaker 4>Easily do your Googles and literally see it, like I know,

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<v Speaker 4>for example that Newark because urban settings tend to pay

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<v Speaker 4>more than rural settings in New Jersey. Because I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if I told you ever, Mandy, that one time

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<v Speaker 4>I had posted like, oh, you know, when I first

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<v Speaker 4>started teaching, I was making thirty nine thousand dollars a

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<v Speaker 4>year and this woman called me a liar on Instace.

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<v Speaker 4>She's like, you're a liar. I'm a teacher in New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't make that much now, let alone that long ago.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, hold please, because Google's are real. I

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<v Speaker 4>showed her that, like one literally I think in Newark

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<v Speaker 4>people are starting at sixty five thousand, because she was

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<v Speaker 4>in rural New Jersey, and I said, I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not trying to shame you about, you know, making less,

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<v Speaker 4>but yes, there are some areas of the same state

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<v Speaker 4>that pay differently. And she was like, oh wow, I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't know that. And so, you know, don't be like,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll call her Shila. Don't be like Shila. Do your

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<v Speaker 4>googles and figure out, like you know, what the pay

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<v Speaker 4>range is. Sometimes there's depending what kind of job it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes there's literally actually websites, like especially if it's a

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<v Speaker 4>government or a state job as relates to higher education,

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<v Speaker 4>there's definitely going to be salary scales available online.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I also don't hate the fact that you

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<v Speaker 3>might be walking into that negotiation with a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of California swagger. Yes, you know, expecting a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>more because maybe you ask for more and they find

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<v Speaker 3>that they can incher that budget up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I love an outlier. And my experience as a manager,

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<v Speaker 3>whenever you'd have someone coming in, especially if you're approaching

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<v Speaker 3>somebody from another company, typically you got to give them

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<v Speaker 3>a bigger raise. So for example, if I was hiring,

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<v Speaker 3>if I had just promoted a writer to a senior writer,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe they got a I don't know, ten percent raise.

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<v Speaker 3>But if I was recruiting a senior writer from somewhere

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<v Speaker 3>else and I had to lure them to me, they

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<v Speaker 3>may come in like a twenty percent and then the

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<v Speaker 3>next round of compensation it's like, oh, well, we have

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<v Speaker 3>this new person coming in. They're kind of raising the

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<v Speaker 3>bar for salary. You know, we got to make sure

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<v Speaker 3>everyone else is on the same page. So rising tides

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<v Speaker 3>kind of lift all boats. So I'm not mad at

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<v Speaker 3>you walking in there asking for a little bit more

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<v Speaker 3>than maybe a local a local would, but yeah, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>Cause you from Caliboo Boo, you been leaning into it.

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<v Speaker 4>We will try our best, no, honestly, like, send at

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<v Speaker 2>So we love us.

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<v Speaker 4>this episode. It's the question you asked me last week.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just feel like, shout out to your third

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<v Speaker 3>grade Spanish teacher. It's what I want to say, because

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<v Speaker 3>those lessons really stuck with you every week thinking a

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<v Speaker 3>little some something.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, a combination about twenty Spanish words, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm not good at tensis. I'm like, I'm probably saying,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like present tensions to the past, partisan whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, doctor Zobro would be very ashamed of me.

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<v Speaker 4>She was my middle school Spanish teacher, and my name

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<v Speaker 4>was Carolina because you know, you have to pick a Spanish.

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<v Speaker 3>Carolina, yeah, because they didn't just like Spanish fie.

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<v Speaker 2>Tiffany, no, because what is the tifoni? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>But Carolina was my Spanish name, and she like they

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<v Speaker 4>one and she was very serious about Spanish. Day one,

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<v Speaker 4>she only spoke to us in Spanish. I'm like, madam,

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<v Speaker 4>that's the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, but I'm and she was very serious. Carolina. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, all I knew is he don't know?

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<v Speaker 4>Say so, shout out to you, missus Zobro for you know,

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<v Speaker 4>trying your best, but some of them all right, y'all

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<v Speaker 4>next week Until next week