1 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson's mother, Katherine Jackson, is alleging ongoing elder abuse 2 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: at the hands of her nephew and driver, Trent Lamar Jackson. 3 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 1: She's claiming that she is the victim of years of 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: mental abuse and has reached the point that she's afraid 5 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: to return home. This is Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 6 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: A number of Michael Jackson's siblings are still contesting his will, 7 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: alleging conspiracy and fraud charges denied by the executors and 8 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: grown out by the courts. Katherine says she tried to 9 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: fire her nephew and have him move out of the guesthouse, 10 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: but that he refused. She is currently in London visiting 11 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: Janet Jackson, but fears he could physically harm her for 12 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: terminating him if she returns home. The judge granted Katherine's 13 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: request for a restraining order and has ordered the nephew 14 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: to move out of her guesthouse. It never seems to 15 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: end with Michael Jackson and or Michael Jackson's estate and 16 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: all of his relatives that are like vultures circling his body, 17 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: trying to somehow position themselves to get more money, more fame, 18 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: more everything, and it's not over right now, we understand 19 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: that Michael Jackson's mom, Katherine Jackson, is in London seeing 20 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: her daughter, Janet Jackson's baby for the first time. While 21 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: she's gone, it seems as if someone has ousted her 22 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: long time caretaker, Trent Jackson, Jackson family relative. Now is 23 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: this more meddling by the Jackson clan to jockey for 24 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: position and or money through their mom, or is there 25 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: something more nefarious going on? Joining us to day that man, 26 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: Trent Jackson. This is crime stories. I'm Nancy Grace, and 27 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: I want to thank you for being with us. As always, 28 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: it never ends with this Jackson bunch, never ends. Also, 29 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: thank you to our sponsor being with us today. Simply Safe. 30 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: Simply Safe has an incredible home security system and one 31 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: of the facets that are so unusual is that you 32 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: can actually afford it. It's four a month for home security. 33 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: I have children, My mom stays with me a lot. 34 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: She's eighty four now since my dad passed away last year. 35 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: When I'm here and when i am not here, I 36 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: want this place armed to the hilt. Simply safe dot 37 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: com slash Nancy for an additional ten off. But now 38 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: back to the Jackson's It's just amazing that someone with 39 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: this kind of talent unlike really anything the world has 40 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: ever seen, the pop world has ever seen before. Anyway, 41 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: there's no disputing that the drama, the intrigue, the crime 42 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: that has you know, hounded this family, and it's not over. 43 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: It's happening right now. This is crime stories. I mean 44 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: and see Grace and has always thank you for being 45 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: with us, joining us. That man, the man that has 46 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: seemingly been kicked to the curb while Katherine Jackson's out 47 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: of town, Trent. You have been taking care of Michael 48 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: Jackson's mom, Katherine Jackson, for many, many years now, and 49 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: I find it very unusual that out of the blue, 50 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: the minute she leaves town, I think she's going to 51 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: visit Janet Jackson's new baby boy, you suddenly have gotten 52 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: a t r O filed filed against you, a t 53 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: r O claiming kidnapping and I guess getting into her money. 54 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: What's going on? Yeah, that's that's not true. Um, I 55 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: like I was saying, my aunt left there in January 56 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: twenty two. She you know, she loved me, paying the 57 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: bills and taking care of the household, and is mighty 58 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: funny how when she got to London, which I told 59 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: her not to go, which Paris told her not to go, 60 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: and when she got over there, they don't. We haven't 61 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: heard from her since she left. And it seems to 62 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: me that someone is over there putting all these things 63 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: together to go after me so they can control my aunt. 64 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. I really don't know. What 65 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: What is you know? Seeing like this part two of 66 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: part one? If you well what Another thing that spishy 67 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: Trent is that the claim the t r O the 68 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: Tipperary was training order that I'm looking at right now 69 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: says you deprived her of water. Oh my goodness, Okay, 70 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: I don't get that. It says that you have tried 71 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: to take over her finances, You've kidnapped her and deprived 72 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: her of water and from contacting her family. Well, she's 73 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: with her family, right. Let me explain something. First of all, me, 74 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: miss Jackson and Prince and Paris and Blanket and my 75 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: cousin t J and his family lives in the house 76 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: with her because t J is the guardian of the children. 77 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: Super you know, it's good. It's kind of crazy for 78 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: them to say that I have deprived reward, and when 79 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: we live in the same house, and kidnapping her means 80 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: that I have to live somewhere else to kidnap her. 81 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: I mean, we all live in the same house, so 82 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: I can not kidnapper. It's kind of strange and that 83 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: tr old that they claim that I've been served with 84 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: I've never been served with anything. I'm still at the 85 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: house right now, and we all puzzled it. While we 86 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: can't contact her and talk to her, that's the problem. 87 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,119 Speaker 1: So it seems like that she's on the other foot. 88 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: She is in I guess London right now seeing her 89 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: new grandson. Janet Jackson, as we all know, has just 90 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: given birth to her first child. It's a baby boy, 91 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: and Katherine Jackson has flown there to see the child. 92 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: But this claims that she could you kept her from 93 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: being with her family, but in fact, her family lives 94 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: in the home with her. Correct, that's correct. So how 95 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: can I keep her from her family when they come 96 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: there every day? Really comes there every day, Jermaine comes 97 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: there all the time, LaToya comes pick her up. I mean, 98 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: it's like, why would I keep her from seeing a family? 99 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: And also her finances, which is through the estate which 100 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: she has the attorneys that make sure that her money 101 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: is being applicated in the right way. And we also 102 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: have an accountant who looks at all the bank statements. 103 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: And it's gonna be strange. When you look at those 104 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: bank statements, you're gonna see who's really manipulating her with 105 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: her money. And it's not me, you know. And and 106 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: so I just can't understand why are they making these 107 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: accusations whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa will hold on hold 108 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: on Trent Jackson. You gate, that was a very mysterious statement. 109 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: You said, when the court or financial handlers look at 110 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: her money, they'll see that her money is being manipulated 111 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: and not by you. So who are you suggesting is 112 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: manipulating Katherine Jackson's money. I don't want to say right now. 113 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to give myself into the 114 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: position to where you know, it's gonna backfir on me. 115 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying that they have the bank state, 116 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: the account has the bank statements. All they gotta do 117 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: is just look at the paper trail, and then I 118 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: know who's manipulating Miss Jackson isn't and it's not me. 119 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: All I do is payments Jackson's bills. I've been authorized. 120 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: I've been paying the bills for fifteen years now, and 121 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: that was my job to be her, her driver, her provider, 122 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: far as taking care of her, making sure she takes 123 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: up medicine, making sure she's going to the doctor. These 124 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: are the things Michael told me to do for her. 125 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: And I've been doing this very well, by the way, 126 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: and people will know me. Notice you know this is 127 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: the second time this has happened. They did this before. 128 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: So you're telling me that Michael Jackson himself put you 129 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: in and put miss jacks and his mother in your care. 130 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: He asked me to do the thing. Well, whatever else 131 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: I might think about Michael Jackson, which you probably already know, 132 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: I also know this. I think he loved his mother 133 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: very very much. Another very alarming accusation is that quote, 134 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: because Trent Jackson managed to get a key to her bedroom, 135 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: he opens her door at his will with no regard 136 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: for her privacy. It also states that another time you 137 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: convinced Katherine Jackson to go to Indiana, supposed to be 138 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: for a couple of days, and you kept her there 139 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: over a month and prevented her from speaking to her family. 140 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: She wanted to come home, and you intimidated her into staying. 141 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: And also it states that the only way she can 142 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: talk to her family is to hide in the closet. 143 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: What Yeah, what's this business about Indiana? Let's start with that. 144 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: What are they talking about? Indiana? My my and has 145 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: a home there, you know, the Jackson five. They have 146 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: their original house there that Gary, Indiana and me and 147 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: min been going back there for seven years now, and 148 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: we go back and we put on the festival for 149 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: the kids, and we give away gifts and we and 150 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: I have a three day festival and concert for the 151 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: city to help the city out, something that we've been 152 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: doing for the last seven years. And all of my 153 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: family members from here, and most of them should say 154 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: not that the quote unquote her kids come back and 155 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: support the festival, come back and give away the gifts, 156 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: and Prince and Paris been coming every year and blanket 157 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: and sign autographs, and we have such a wonderful time 158 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: giving back to the city of Gary. So I'm trying 159 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: to figure out where it is putting her in a 160 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: closet and kidnapping her for a month. Everybody know where 161 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: we at. I mean, it's not like I don't know, 162 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: abody know where we're at it. And my aunt has 163 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: phones everywhere, and she have our own personal phone. She 164 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: can call whenever she needs to call. Isn't it just 165 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: blanket home now? Because Paris has grown up and Prince 166 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: has grown up, there's so there's just a blanket left. 167 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: Blanket is at the house now, yes, and he's happy 168 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: and it's at the house over there. Prince and Paris 169 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: moved out. But you have to ask him why did 170 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: they move out? That's a good question. Well aren't they? 171 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: How old are and Prince's nineteen and he'll be twenty 172 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: this month now. It also says that in these documents 173 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: and quoting that Trent that's you has manipulated Mrs Jackson 174 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: so much that whenever the police arrive, she recants and 175 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: changes her mind. In other words, when the police get 176 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: there and ask her about these accusations, she always says, 177 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: that's not true. So what do you believe is behind 178 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: all this? We didn't have the adult services called on 179 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: us like three times, and east time the Shares come 180 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: up there. They talked with my aunt and then they 181 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: talked with me, and then they come back and tell 182 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: me that, you know, our stories collap rate with each 183 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: other and we're not saying anything different. And one of 184 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: the ladies Sheriff's told me, she said, we're really is 185 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: the problem because when Jermaine was keeping your uncle, we 186 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: had to go up there to see what was going 187 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: on up there because someone called the adult service on him. 188 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: And I said, well, basically, it's some family members are 189 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 1: still unhappy about the situation that Michael made and they 190 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: feel like if they can control their mom and the 191 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: way that they want. I don't know what what, you know, 192 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: I would like to know what is it that they're 193 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: trying to do. They can benefit from this some kind 194 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 1: of way, And I mean, it's kind of strange that 195 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: this is happening all the time. And in the same 196 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: if there was a case and then they can't something 197 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: against me, it seething by now, I would have been 198 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: put in jail by now at least arrested or something. Well, 199 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: you know, that's another interesting thing, Trent. I'm trying to 200 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: make my way through these documents. There's no criminal complaint filed. 201 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: Is there joining me right now? Is Alan Duke, investigative reporter, Alan, 202 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: I've got a t r O, but a t R 203 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: O is a civil matter, not a criminal matter. There's 204 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: no criminal matter, it's just the t r OH and 205 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: that is all. My question is, did Katherine Jackson herself 206 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: signed this or authorize this tr OH? Do we know that? 207 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: Let me just answer that my aunt probably don't have 208 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: no clue that all this is going on. They are 209 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: keeping her totally in the dark. After they fired Santa Ribera, 210 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: her attorney, they hired a new attorney named Joey Bass, 211 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: who came in, wanted to take control of the children's money, 212 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: wanted to take control of her money, and operated in 213 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: the way she wanted to the state. Heart Wiseman said, no, 214 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: they were not going to allow joy Bass to operate 215 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: the children's money because no one met this attorney. No 216 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: one had an opportunity of seeing who she was, where 217 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: she came from, where she was doing. I mean, we 218 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: never sat down and even talked to her. So ready 219 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: and Jermaine and Randy Winning got this attorney like they 220 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: always do and had them fire Ms Jackson's attorney who's 221 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: been wonderful to her and all of us, and then 222 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: put into this new lady who came in and she's 223 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: gonna start making these decisions and I was sure that 224 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: Miss Jackson doesn't know that all this stuff is going 225 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: on overhead. You know, I was looking at the document, Alan, 226 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: and I see where you right out what you wish for. 227 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: This says return all of her credit cards, keys, passwords 228 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: and so forth. But it refers to miss Jackson. It's 229 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: not Katherine Jackson writing this herself. I also don't say 230 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: Katherine Jackson's signature anywhere, um I mean, but it could 231 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 1: be there and I just haven't been able to decipher 232 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: in all of this. Go ahead, Allen. Have you heard 233 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: from Katherine Jackson? She she boarded a plane for London 234 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: to see her grand new grandchild in January twenty two. 235 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: Have you heard from her? No, we haven't heard from her. 236 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: Heard from her once and when. The only time he's 237 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: heard from her is when she called back and told 238 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: me to get out the house, to to to leave 239 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: the house. She said, I was fired, And so t 240 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: J said, you know, I called Grandma. She said, she 241 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: told me to tell you to get out the house. 242 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: You were fired, he said, But Trent, I know this 243 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: is not Grandma. And I can hear people in the 244 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: background talking and you know, making her And this is 245 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: not the first time that's happened. This is the second 246 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: time this has happened. Are you saying you spoke to 247 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: her yourself? No, I did not. My cousin t J did. Okay, 248 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: So she didn't say that. Now we've got to remember 249 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: Katherine Jackson is now eighty six years old. Yes, so 250 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: she never told you that herself. Correct. No, she never 251 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: told me that herself. No, this is something I heard from, 252 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: you know, my cousin. And he knows that she would 253 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: never say nothing like that. You know, he knows she's 254 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: being forced to say this because she probably want to 255 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: be let go. I mean, she's been gone since January 256 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: twenty second, and when you're gone that long, and and 257 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: and and one of the things that they don't understand 258 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: she needs special care. Mind has polio, she lives and 259 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: she takes strong medication. And and by doing that to 260 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: her And I told him, I say, look, you know, 261 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: she can't she can't defend herself when she's around them. 262 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: And she she didn't want to go. LaToya didn't even 263 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: know she was going into the day of and we 264 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: helped pack their bags, and she kept trying to tell 265 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: her not she you know, why would she go to 266 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: London and and Jennet lives in Dubai and fly for 267 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: ten hours on you know, a medication that couldn't cause 268 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: her problem. And I had to contact the doctor to 269 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: get the release for her to even be able to fly. 270 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: So I wasn't trying to keep her from flying there. 271 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: I have packed the bags and she gave her the 272 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: money and said I'll be back in a few days. 273 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: And we haven't heard from her. Sins how often does 274 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: she actually see all of those children she see? Ready, Germaine. 275 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: Those are the two. Those are the two corporates right there. 276 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: Those two are bitterly unhappy about something. And I don't 277 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: know what it is. I mean because if something like 278 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: this happened, don't you think they would have sat down 279 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: and talk to me and said, Trent, we want to 280 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: talk to you about abusing our mom, and we want 281 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: to see her finances and all that. I could have 282 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: easily got the account and come over to the house 283 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: and showed them the finances of what's going on with 284 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: her accounts and things like that, because I'm not the 285 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: one who's controlled on her account. The state is the 286 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: one who's given her her money every month. They know 287 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: her taxes and they know what's coming out of account. 288 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: All you gotta do is pull the banks steams and 289 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: you'll see clearly what was coming in and out of 290 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: her account. So where does that leave us? I mean, Allen, 291 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: I've gone over the documents and Katherine Jackson is always 292 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: referred to in the third person. I don't ever see 293 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: her actual signature on any of these documents, did you know? 294 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: And it will be interesting to see if this is 295 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: if we find out the same thing that we found 296 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: out almost five years ago when she went missing for 297 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. She turned out. She signed a 298 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: court document after she got back saying that she was 299 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: kept in communicado. They took her phone, they took her iPad, 300 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: They unplugged the hotel phone, they cut the television off, 301 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: so she didn't know about all the concern about her disappearance. 302 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: I don't think that you saying Alan that she quote 303 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: went missing from what I understand that time, the family 304 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: took her away to a vacation spot part of the family. 305 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: They did take away her cell phone and her iPad. 306 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: They did do that, so she had no idea the 307 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: stir that was being caused that come. But I would 308 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: hardly say that she was kidnapped or went missing. I 309 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: tell you who thought she was kidnapped and who wanted 310 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: the FBI to get involved. That was Paris Jackson. Do 311 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: you remember those incredible series of tweets that Paris made 312 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: saying where's my grandmother? It was a very dramatic thing, 313 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: and that's really fueled that whole media stir. In July 314 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: of two thousand and twelve, Paris, You remember Janet went 315 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: to the house and we saw the security video of 316 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: Janet trying to take Paris's cell phone away from her 317 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: and her resisting was Paris and Prince who were calling 318 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: her kidnap because they had not been able to talk 319 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: to their grandmother. Also, Natty, if you think about it, 320 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: when when LaToya opened up a show and she always said, yes, 321 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: my mother was kidnapped. I mean she she straight out 322 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: said it. We all knew that this was this was 323 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: a plan. Prince told me they had planned this a 324 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: year ago. This was a plan to get her out. 325 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: And then they came back and tried to take the 326 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: kids under my care? What what? What a plan to 327 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: get her out and do what out of the house 328 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: to get her in Arizona you know, there's no jurisdiction 329 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: Arizona about you know, you can't go over there and 330 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: get someone. But I had to hire a private investigator. 331 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: I had to go to the sheriff department and make 332 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: and make sure that they was aware of what was 333 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: going on, and follow report is down at the sheriff department, 334 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: a missing person's report, Yeah, missing person report. And they 335 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: came back a week later and tried to take the 336 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: kids out of the house. And that's when me and 337 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: Jermaine and Randy got into a fight. But I know, 338 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: but I didn't ever hear for what take her to 339 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: Arizona to do? What? What was the purpose holder hashes for? 340 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: I don't know why. That's you know what, Nancy, that's okay, 341 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense to hold the Hosses. I mean, 342 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: that's and come back and get the kids. They want 343 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: to hold her. So you're saying her own family held 344 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: their mother hostage and a Zona in a hotel. That sense. Yeah, 345 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense to a 346 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: lot of people. But that's what happened. And Paris knew 347 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: it was gonna happen. I knew it was gonna happen. 348 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: And we all tried to talk her out of it, 349 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: and it happened. It happened. Well, where is the father, 350 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: where's the father in all this? Catherine Jackson's husband, Well, 351 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: come on, Joe's right along with them, and I'll tell 352 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: you how I know he's he's with them. You know, 353 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: before my aunt left, she did not want to get 354 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: her passport. I had her passport. She did not want 355 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 1: to get her new passport. And I said, I kid 356 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: you why you want She said, because I don't want 357 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: to go. I don't want to fly on no plane. 358 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to go down there. And so they 359 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: first She's they Germaine, tried to get a passport, she 360 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't get it. Then she sent her assistant up to 361 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: get her passport. She wasn't gonna get it. Then Ready 362 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: came over there, and it seemed like, I don't know 363 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: what she told her to get her to get her passport. 364 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: Joseph kept calling about get your passport, get your passport. 365 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: And I knew when she got that passport and got 366 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: out of the care of us and got out of 367 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: our way of protecting her, she was gonna be stuck 368 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: with them. Man, we knew all this is gonna go down. 369 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: Already knew this was gonna happen. Okay, whoa I want 370 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: to get back to Joe Jackson. Okay, what do you 371 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: mean he's with them? Did Mike? Didn't Michael Jackson lead 372 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: the bulk of his money I guess to his children 373 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: and to his mom. Michael Jackson left his mom with 374 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: the children and the beneficiary of Michael's estate, not to 375 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: rest him. None of the one none of them name 376 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: are nowhere on that estate. So that means the rest 377 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: of them, all the brothers and the Joe Jackson, uh, 378 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: the whole kitten caboodle, they were cut. They they're not 379 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: getting there off the gravy train, right, That's that's correct. 380 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: How are they making a living? That's something I've always 381 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: wanted to know. They're not. I mean, if you look 382 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: at if and that's that's the problem. Do do any 383 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: of them actually have a job? Well, some of them 384 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: have been touring. Yeah, let me just tell you which 385 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: ones are are area are being being good? This Jackie, 386 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: Marlon and Tito they you know, they have their own group. 387 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: They travel when they make money and then they you know, 388 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: they begged Germaine to do the right things. So he 389 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: can help them out. But Jermaine and reb are being 390 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 1: taken care of by their mother, truly taken care of 391 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: by their mother, child support, rent and all the other 392 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: things that she paid for them, you know, on a 393 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: monthly basis. I gotta tell you something, Tramp. My mother 394 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: is eighty four, and the thought that somebody would try 395 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: to take advantage of her or mistreat her, it's almost 396 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: more than I can can take. When my father passed 397 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: away last year, one of the last things I said 398 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: to him is I would take care of mother no 399 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: matter what. And to think that people are allegedly taking 400 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: her off, taking away her cell phone. If any of 401 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: this is true, Trent Jackson, I'm coming after you myself. 402 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: I am coming after you. I find it hard to believe, though, 403 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: because why does this happen when she leaves town. I 404 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 1: don't see your name on any of these documents, So 405 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: how could she do this while she's out of town 406 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: in London. This is how this is how stupid that 407 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: attorney is because she's doing it. They're doing this, what 408 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,719 Speaker 1: I heard, being aware, just like they did before. She 409 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: wasn't aware of any of this was going on until 410 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: she got back into the states. She was blindsided the 411 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: first time, and this is the drawer to get her 412 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: out there to to see Janet's baby. Was the way 413 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: he goes on to do it the second time. Why 414 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: would they wait to they get to London to bring 415 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: up accusations of me abusing their mom And I've been 416 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: with this lady for fifteen years taking care of her. 417 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: I mean, why they could have just did that while 418 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: he was here in the States. Why would they go 419 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: to London and do that? That's did they even come 420 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: and see her? I got I got footage of them. 421 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: I mean at at our house, we have security there. 422 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: Everybody comes in there these out there signs in, signs out. 423 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: We have cameras all around the house. You can see 424 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: them coming and going with their mother every single day. 425 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: And if their mom was being abused by me, why 426 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: would you bring her back to the abusive household? Did 427 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: you think that she's involved in? I mean, you got 428 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: your own house, take your mama home, call the police, 429 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: get the police over there. Why would you keep bringing 430 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: her back going to the store and coming in there. 431 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: You can see me taking LaToya some places. If I'm 432 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: this big brute abuser, would make sense of you? Bringing 433 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: your mom back to that house when you know it's 434 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: all kind of this is the house of repute. You 435 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: got other places you can take your mother. Nobody's keeping 436 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: you from taking your mother's bag. Have you gotten a 437 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 1: lawyer yet, because you're gonna need one. You got to 438 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: dig through this mask. This is a you know, and 439 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: it cannot be good for a children at all. Haven't 440 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: they been through enough? It's awful and it's not It's 441 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: not good for anyone. I mean, it's not you know, 442 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: this is not good for you. I mean, I'm a 443 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: grown woman and I'm still not over my father passing away. 444 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: And these are young children. And no matter what you 445 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: may think, Michael Jackson is guilty of and I guess 446 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: everybody knows what I think about that. Still, it's very 447 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: clear he loved his children and he loved his mother. 448 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: Definitely suddenly have him gone? You know? Do you believe 449 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: this whole thing is a money grab? Um? Now? I 450 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: think more of a power control type of thing, you know, 451 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: because the way they fired Sandra Ribera, the way they're 452 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: trying to get rid of me, I think is they 453 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: want to talk about controlling someone or abusing someone. I 454 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: think the abuse started back in Indiana and it worked 455 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: his way up to Haven Hurts and now here is 456 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: it in Calabasas if you started in Haven Hurts, I 457 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: mean with them how they treated their mom. And it 458 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: didn't from all of them. It just came from a 459 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: certain few. And these same ones that Michael fire got 460 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: rid of and told me that he didn't want them 461 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: involved in his finances and things like that. These are 462 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,959 Speaker 1: the main ones involved in this thing now, because if 463 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: you look at the names of who down there in London, 464 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: you'll know which one of the kids are still upset. 465 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: M So, Alan is this thing going to court? I mean, 466 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: when does Trent Jackson get to tell the judge his 467 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: side of the story. Not until March the one. There 468 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: is a court date set for March the first, where 469 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: the temporary restraining order will be considered to be made permanent, 470 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: and that's when all this will be aired out. Okay, everybody, 471 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: Once again, there's more trouble in the house of Michael Jackson. 472 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson cannot rest in peace for five minutes, it seems, 473 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: because now there are allegations that have been brought by 474 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: we don't yet know who, but ostensibly by his mother. 475 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: Katherine Jackson. I mean that Trent Jackson needs to be 476 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: kicked out. He's been a caregiver for years now. What's 477 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: really going on while Katherine Jackson is out of the country, Nancy, 478 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: we have, we have t j his family lives in 479 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: that house. We have I don't know how, we have 480 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: like ten or twelve employees that worked there every single day. 481 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: Prince and Paris come there every single day. Now, if 482 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: there was any kind of abuse going on, you think 483 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: somebody would know something, that would have heard something, that 484 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: would have said something by now. If that's the case, 485 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: that means not only just me is abusing. Everybody in 486 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: that house is abusing miss Jackson. So we need to 487 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: find that out. And if I feel like, why would 488 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: they make a statement like that all the way over 489 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: in London when they could have did that right here 490 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: in California. Why would you go to London and do that? 491 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: Why don't you do that while you're here in California? Again, 492 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: thank you too. Simply Safe our sponsor joining us here 493 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: on crime stories. Simply Safe is so easy to install, 494 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: hence the name simply Safe. They've even got a video 495 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: online to explain how to do it. People believe they 496 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: cannot afford home security. Well you can Simply Safe offers 497 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: round the clock security for four a month, and right now, 498 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: if you go to simply safe dot com slash Nancy, 499 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: there's an additional ten percent off. I've got my home armed. 500 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: My mom has her home armed. You know, when you 501 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 1: have children or anything, dear to you, it makes all 502 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 1: the sense in the world. So thank you, Simply Safe. 503 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: What did Michael Jackson make of all his brothers and sisters. 504 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he did not include any of them in 505 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: his will. None of them were beneficiaries. That tells you 506 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: a lot, don't Yeah, it really does. Yeah, I mean 507 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: it's it's it's almost like Michael left a platform for 508 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: his brothers and them to be able to support themselves 509 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: and do what they have to do to go on 510 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: with their life. If you look at all those tours 511 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: that he'd taken overseas and all over different places, do 512 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: you e and m off throwing stage dancing with him? No, 513 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: And he went on and moved on in his life 514 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: and he's and then when he had kids, he decided 515 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: if anything happened to him, his children should benefit off 516 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: of his hard work and not his brothers. And sisters 517 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: because to this day they still have a platform for 518 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: themselves to do whatever they want. So if they can 519 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: get over the part about why come that money. They 520 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: think that money belongs to them and it does not. 521 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: Everybody tell him that does not belong to you guys. 522 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: That money belongs to his children and his mother. Bottom 523 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: line with me is Trent Jackson. Trent, I'll see you 524 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: in court. Nancy Grace Crime Stories signing off, and I 525 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: want to thank you for being with us today. Goodbye friend,