1 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show. What we're gonna do here 2 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: is answer some questions you email us podcast at grangersmith 3 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: dot com. We answer them like we're riding in the 4 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: truck together, like we're sitting around a campfire. You say, hey, man, 5 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: I got this thing it's been going on. Can you 6 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: help me with it? I got a man with me, 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: producer of the show and one of my best friends. 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: What's up an Good to see you man, You too, 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: there we I don't know a lot about these questions 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: that people have sent in for today's show, but I 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,959 Speaker 1: do know enough that there is there is a bit 12 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: of a theme going on. There is, and so we'll 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: see how that unravels. 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,319 Speaker 2: It's funny, it wasn't on purpose too. I read through 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 2: these and put them in in what we call an ROS. 16 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: That's a run a show for uh, for these for you, 17 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: And I'm not thinking about answering them necessarily when I'm 18 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: putting them together. I'm thinking about, this'd be a good 19 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: one to hear from granger on and then I get 20 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: to stay here and talk to you about them, so 21 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: I can read them and rethink you know about them. 22 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: So yep, So let's see if we can unravel this theme. 23 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: The first questionnaire comes from Kyle. It says, Hey, Granger, 24 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: I'll get right into it. My wife and I haven't 25 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: been getting along lately. She says things like I hate 26 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: you and go shoot yourself, and that she wants a divorce. 27 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: Me personally, I don't believe in divorce. I love her 28 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: with all of my being, but her being so mean 29 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: takes a toll on me. Usually the day after she 30 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: says how much she loves me and that she doesn't 31 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: want to split up, but it always comes back. We 32 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: did marriage counseling three sessions and she quit. I ended 33 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: up going back by myself because I'm trying to better myself. 34 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: My question is, do you believe it's okay to file 35 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: for divorce because of the way I'm being treated. I 36 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: just want what's best for my children. Thank you for 37 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: your time. Sorry, this is really hard to talk about. 38 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: Kyle from Ohio. All right, thanks for being vulnerable. Kyle, 39 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: appreciate the email. And there's nothing in here that's that's 40 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: asking if this is biblical or if he's a Christian. Right, 41 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: So that's a little bit different perspective. Because we're gonna 42 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: come to this podcast with a biblical worldview. And so Kyle, 43 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: without you mentioning that some of the stuff I say 44 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: may not make sense to you, but it's okay, that's okay, 45 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: still applies, it still applies. But this is where it 46 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: gets This is where it gets really wonky with you, Kyle, 47 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: is I'm gonna I'm gonna look at from from the 48 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: point of view of you being involved in a church, 49 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: which really changes the dynamic of this because it's Christians. 50 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: I can't say this enough on this podcast, and I'll 51 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: probably say it more on this exact episode. Christians shouldn't 52 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: go through divorce alone. It's not advised in any way 53 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: that you should go through divorce alone. You should do 54 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: it with your brothers and sisters around you, which is 55 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: so encouraging. So with that in mind, let's dive into 56 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: this question. First. First thing on that comes to my 57 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: mind is you say, Kyle, I just want what's best 58 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: for my children. But that kind of contradicts a little 59 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: bit to what he says earlier when he says I 60 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: don't believe in divorce. I love her with all with 61 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: all of my being. Okay, So which one do we 62 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: want here? Which one is it? 63 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? And he's working on himself. 64 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: And he's working on himself, so that we have a 65 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: little bit of a contradiction. Because if you only want 66 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: want what's best for your children's that's one direction. If 67 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: you only you love her with all of your being, 68 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: that's another, And if you want to work on yourself, 69 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: that's a third way. My suggestion is, and my encouragement 70 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: is that if you want what's best for your children, 71 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: that is reconciliation in the marriage agreed. Ok, Okay, So 72 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: you reconciling with the biological mama is better for them 73 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: then you divorcing and trying to figure out a way 74 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: to do what's best for them. That's not always the case. 75 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: That's not always the answer. That's not that's just not 76 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: that's not a cookie cutter cutter answer because, first of all, 77 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: most practically a lot of times reconciliation is not possible. 78 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes it's not. When I read this email, I 79 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: read it one way again, you know, for the podcast, 80 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: but reading it as a response, the first thing I 81 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: see is she's hurting somewhere and she's lashing out at you. 82 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: And you know, we just went through we're going through 83 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: proverbs at church, and one of the biggest things we 84 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: talked about a couple of weeks ago, the life and 85 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: death being in the power of your tongue. With the 86 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: same tongue you give life and the same tongue you 87 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 2: give death. You curse somebody and you give life to somebody. 88 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 2: And when you're spewing out stuff that is hateful, like 89 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: go shoot yourself and I hate you, that's coming from 90 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: something in your heart that is disturbed. And so there's 91 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: some hurt with her somewhere. And I don't know if 92 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: it's in this marriage, if it's for the marriage, or 93 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: what it is. You know, we assume a lot with 94 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: these emails because there you know, what is this? You know, 95 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: seven six lines long, you know, to diagnose an entire 96 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 2: issue with the marriage. But there's something going here. It's 97 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: not I mean, it is salvageable from what I read. 98 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 2: I believe if if you both want it to be. 99 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes you do get to a place where 100 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: one of you wants it with all your heart and 101 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 2: the other one says, I just don't love you and 102 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 2: I don't want to be part of this anymore. What 103 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: do you do then? And maybe that's where we are 104 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 2: with this one as well. I come from a divorced family, 105 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: and I am divorce myself, a biblical divorce. But no 106 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: matter what, it's hard. And ultimately, listen, if if it's 107 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: gonna be hard no matter what, choose the hard one 108 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 2: that keeps things together if you can, m because it's 109 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: gonna be hard either way. You're you're doing one battle 110 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 2: that's really hard without a helper anymore. And you might 111 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: feel like you don't have a helper right now. But 112 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 2: if you can salvage and get your helper back in 113 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: that marriage, it is going to help make things better 114 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: and it's worth. 115 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: The fight for sure. That's a great way to look 116 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: at it. So it's gonna be hard, Kyle, It's gonna 117 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: be hard no matter which road you pick right now. 118 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard in the road to restoration, and 119 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard in the road and being a 120 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: single dad and starting over. Sure, and man saying from experience, 121 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: since they're both hard, choose the one that's on the 122 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: road to reconciliation. Is that what you're saying? 123 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sure, if you can. And I say if 124 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: you can, because some decisions just aren't up to you. 125 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 2: Have you done everything that are you in a church? 126 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: Do you have brothers? See part of mine involved things 127 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: at a church, and so it makes it it made 128 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: it hard for me to trust a church, not God, 129 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: but a church for a long long time. And even 130 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 2: so much as we are just now really getting settled 131 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: in a church that I fully am ready to be 132 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: plugged into a church. Healthy church, absolutely, and that's very important. 133 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: So I mean my first advice is where is just 134 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: the question of where are you going? Where are you 135 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: going to church? If you're not well, that's you need 136 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: to get plugged in somewhere that's a healthy place. 137 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. Side note another episode, possibly there is a big 138 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: difference everyone between a healthy church and an unhealthy church. 139 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: So if you have church hurt, if you look back 140 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: and you go, I don't like the church because it 141 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: did this and this, I would say there's a just 142 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: as there's a difference between an unhealthy doctor or a 143 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: bad practicing doctor and a good doctor, there is the 144 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: same thing with a massive of chasm between an unhealthy 145 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: church and a healthy church. Now we could do this 146 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,119 Speaker 1: on another episode and actually walk through what it looks 147 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: like to be a healthy church, because you might think 148 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: that you're in one and it actually might not be 149 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: biblically healthy. We could do this in another episode, but 150 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: that's a side note to what you're saying. So here's 151 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: the major problem. Looks like there's a lot of problems, 152 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: but one of them they did counseling three sessions and 153 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: she quit. She left, so he goes back by himself. Now, 154 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: what do you think, Amy, What do you say to 155 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: a separation to begin this process? 156 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: What do you mean to like start. 157 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: To say before we file, we should live separately? What 158 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: do you think about that? 159 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 2: Man? It's hard to reconcile when you're not together. Okay, 160 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: I believe, because yeah, I think you know, should you 161 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: have some alone time? Absolutely? I think separating in one 162 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: person living in one house and somebody listens living somewhere else. 163 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 2: I believe it's like move you're moving towards staying separated 164 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: versus moving towards staying together. 165 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: Unless there's abuse, of course. Yeah, yeah, so that's the 166 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: caveat Yeah. 167 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: Of course. Yeah. If you're being abused, that's a that's 168 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: a completely different conversation too. 169 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: Uh. 170 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: And this is some verbal abuse. I mean obviously here, 171 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: nine times out of ten I would say that that 172 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: separating some people wake up and go, oh, man, I 173 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: can't do this by myself. And if if that, you know, 174 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 2: that is good for to get that revelation. 175 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: But so I think he's asking one specific question. My 176 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: question is do you believe it's okay to file for 177 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: divorce because of the way I'm being treated? I just 178 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: want what's best for my children. That's the question. And 179 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: I think because there's so many unknowns, we don't get 180 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: to follow up question. We don't know the situation. We 181 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: don't know anything, Kyle. I don't even know if this 182 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: is your first wife or not. I don't know if 183 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: it's if these are your children and not hers. It 184 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: may be some scenarios this is his children from a 185 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: previous marriage that puts a new spend. So because I 186 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: don't know anything about this, I really only have one 187 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: piece of advice, and that is, don't make this decision 188 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: outside of wise counsel. 189 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 2: Agreed, agreed, and that would you know? I think that 190 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: that is the answer to this email. It is like 191 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: that this has to go much deeper. This conversation has 192 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: to go much deeper with someone that you trust with 193 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: And if you're going to a counselor what kind of 194 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: counselor too, make sure they're Bible believing counseling. 195 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: And I also and part of what I mean by that, 196 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: I'm talking about a team, and so I'm not just 197 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: talking about professional, paid counseling. I'm talking about wise counsel 198 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: in the aspect of friends, trusted brothers around you. So 199 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: my answer, Kyle, my direct answer to dude, your question 200 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: is is it okay to file for divorce because of 201 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: the way I'm being treated? No without wise counsel. Yes, 202 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: with wise counsel. So it can go either way. But 203 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: if you don't have wise counsel, throw this whole question out. 204 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: If you do and they advise you need to walk away, 205 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 1: then I would say you could trust them in this. 206 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: She's abandoned you. There's abuse, verbal abuse. If you're with 207 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: wise counsel and they say no, don't file for divorce, 208 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: I would trust them on that as well. There's room 209 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: for reconciliation. But ant man and I don't know enough 210 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: about it. 211 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the next question or the advice 212 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: would be, is, like or I would ask you, is 213 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: how does he find that? How does he find that 214 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: wise counsel if he's not in a church if they 215 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 2: didn't grow up in that, how does he go find 216 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: wise counsel? 217 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: Right now, this is something that we should be preparing 218 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: before we end up in the situation, right This is 219 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: this is when you know CPR before you have to 220 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: use it. And so this is why this is reason 221 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: number eight hundre seventy five whire being involved in a 222 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: meaningful relationship with a good, solid, healthy Bible teaching church 223 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: is so important. It is a among other things. It's 224 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: a tribe. 225 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. 226 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: It's being in a tribe, which humans for centuries and 227 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: centuries millennia have been involved in a tribe, even when 228 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: it's outside of the context of what a Christian church is. 229 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: We're talking about Native American Indians. We're in tribes and 230 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: that those tribes. Sorry I have an airplane voice here, 231 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: I just got off the airplane. So these tribes operated 232 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: multi generations. They weren't age segregated like we're so quick 233 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: in society today to age segregate. Put the youth over here, 234 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: Put the toddlers in this room, Put the babies here, 235 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: put the put the nursing mothers here, Put the young 236 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: adults in this room. Put these seniors over in this room, 237 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: and we segregate everyone, so no one is learning from 238 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: each other. And for millennia, humans have learned from each 239 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: other without age segregating. So now here we are and 240 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: we're stuck in these situations where someone goes, I'm going 241 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: through this big problem, granger, I'm going through this divorce, 242 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: and I have no one. 243 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 2: To talk to. 244 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: That's because our culture has age segregated. You have no 245 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: wise counsel, you have no tribe. The best we do 246 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: with tribes sometimes is the youth baseball team that your 247 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: kid plays for. That's your tribe. Even worse, social media, 248 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: even worse, your social media is your tribe. So a man, 249 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: your question is what do you do if you're already 250 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: in a situation where you don't have your tribe, you 251 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: don't have your wise counsel, and you need to make 252 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: a decision now. And to that, I say, this is 253 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: doing CPR without ever taking a class. It's very hard. 254 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: There's not a right or wrong answer to this, but 255 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: it's very difficult. So if you're listening and you're not 256 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: in the situation, find your tribe. And I would say, 257 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: above all, a good Bible believing, healthy church is your tribe. 258 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: That's that's what they're that's what that's how they function 259 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: in the many ways that a church functions. It's this, 260 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: it's your family. 261 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 2: I think that's our responsibility is man too. That's part 262 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 2: of leadership and leading your family is wondering what you're 263 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: supposed to be doing. Well, you know, I don't have 264 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: an issue right now that that I have to address. 265 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: What should I be doing? Things like that? Yeah, looking 266 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: for things where you find your weaknesses. Where are you 267 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: weak right now? Fill those holes? Fill those gaps for 268 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 2: you and your family. 269 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: If you want to know who to pick for your 270 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: wise counsel, you look at their fruits of their life. Yes, 271 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: for sure, not just because they're easy to talk to. 272 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: Are there good listeners? Are they're cool people? Or their 273 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: proximity that their next door neighbors to you look at 274 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: the fruits of their life and go, hey, brother, it 275 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: looks like you have We all have mistakes and we 276 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: all have a track record, but currently it looks like 277 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: you have. You have your You're on a good solid tree. 278 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: You have good fruits coming out from your life. Can 279 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: you help me with this situation? What do I do 280 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: and build a tribe in that way? Have you done time. 281 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: We got it. We let's do another question. Kyle. I 282 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: hope that's enough for you. Next question from David says, 283 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: Hello David from Ohio. Me and my fiance are getting 284 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: married in September. We're both born again Christians and wanted 285 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: your thoughts on birth control. Should Christians use it? Is 286 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: it a sin? If we Lord willing have children? I 287 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: want to give each child enough attention. That's what I'm 288 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: getting at, He says, thank you. Love to listen to 289 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: the podcast when I'm on the road as a trucker. 290 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: God bless all right, David, it's a good question. Then 291 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: we should be thinking through these things. My first answer is, 292 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: have your try, have your wise counsel around you. These 293 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: are great questions. 294 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: We changed the name of the podcast to wise Counsel. 295 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Granger Smith and the Wise Counsel. It's like the 296 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: band name. And by the way, I'm not really considered 297 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: wise counsel because I'm not with these people. I don't 298 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: know you. So my encouragement is to direct you towards what. 299 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 2: Really is why this shouldn't be the sole help. 300 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: This is not the council. But David, I think it's 301 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: a great question and we should be We should be 302 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: thinking through all these things. You say you're a born 303 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: again Christian, and that's great. This is a this is 304 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: a form of your sanctification that's weighing on you on 305 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: theological things, things that matter in life, Having children, planning 306 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: for children matters, and so you should be questioning everything, 307 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: not just because that's the way it's done on social media, 308 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: not because that's the way mom and dad did it. 309 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: But am I thinking through this from a biblical worldview? 310 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: So the you know, the heart of man plans his way, 311 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: but the Lord establishes his steps, the Bible says, So 312 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that we don't plan just because the 313 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: Lord establishes steps. Or you could say another proverb, the 314 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: horse is made ready for the day of battle, but 315 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: the victory belongs to the Lord. That doesn't mean because 316 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: the victory belongs to the Lord. And because he establishes 317 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: our steps doesn't mean we don't plan our way, And 318 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean we don't prepare the horse for the 319 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: day of battle. So if you're planning on having children, great, 320 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: If you plan on separating it out due to finances 321 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: or which I think is a great point, you make 322 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: giving enough attention to each child. I don't think there's 323 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: anything wrong with that, but you're also not The victory 324 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: is not up to you, and the steps that you 325 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: take is ultimately not up to you. If you're giving 326 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: all that up to a sovereign God and going Lord. 327 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: If it was up to me, I would have children 328 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: staggered every two years. But Lord is not up to me. 329 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna plan like it is up to me. 330 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna all always know and acknowledge you are 331 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: behind all of it, in your sovereignty, in your purpose. 332 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything wrong with that. And so 333 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: when it comes to birth control, I don't think there's 334 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: anything wrong. And there would be a gray line if 335 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: I started to name different kinds of contraceptives, there would 336 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: be a gray line on what is biblical or not. 337 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: For instance, the Catholics have long practiced the I don't 338 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 1: know the word. What's the feminine calendar? You know when 339 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: girls have a cycle, sure, and they have a calendar. 340 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what the name is Catholics. Catholics know 341 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: this that there's a calendar and the woman's cycle is 342 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: on the calendar, and they could literally say we're safe 343 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 1: to have intercourse during these days and these days. This 344 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: is because Catholics essentially, hey forgive me, I don't know 345 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: a lot about this, but they don't believe in contraceptive, right. So, 346 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: but in following the calendar, that is a contra that is, 347 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: it is a form of s. That's where I'm talking 348 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: about the gray line is. So we're talking about condoms here, 349 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: we're talking about following a calendar. I think there's a 350 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: gray line. Now, you're a lot less likely with the condom, 351 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: with that contraceptive than you are with an accident with 352 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: the calendar. But but it's still a gray line here. 353 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: Here's where I'm gonna draw This is where this is 354 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: where I draw the line. The line is the what 355 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: do you call it? A border fashions? What do you 356 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: call that? What's that word that? The there's pills that 357 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: are that are cell killing plan B a border of fashions? 358 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: I think so something like that after you. 359 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: After you would have sex, you would take a pill 360 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: to basically kill whatever may have happened here. 361 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, So that that's where there's a hard line there 362 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: For me. I'm not gonna come down on you and say, hey, 363 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: you and your wife in your in your practical planning, 364 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: should never use this form of contraception unless it is 365 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: a board of fashion. I think that's the word. I'm sorry, 366 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, but this is a cell killing poison. 367 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: I say, do not do that. I am personally against 368 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: tying tubes. I'm personally against what's the other sectory, the sectomy. 369 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: I think I think someone could make a biblical argument 370 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: against me, and I would be I could change my 371 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,239 Speaker 1: stance on that so that this is not like, this 372 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: is not black and white. But but here's my point. 373 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: Here's my point of everything I'm saying. I think it's 374 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: very important as a family, as a as a you're 375 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: you're not married yet, you're getting married in September. All 376 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: these are great conversations to have before you're married and 377 00:20:54,760 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: before she has her first baby. Great conversations. Uh, conversations 378 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: about adoption are great conversations to have. And so as 379 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: long as you're walking through it, you're praying through it. Lord. 380 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: We we know that you say we plan our away, 381 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: but you establish our steps. And so Lord, we're going 382 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: to plan on staggering two years between babies. We're going 383 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: to plan on using using a form of contraceptive. So 384 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: that we could we could uh plan this out. But Lord, 385 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: will you crush this idea? If this is wrong or 386 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: if this is not within your will? Were you make 387 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: sanctify us in a way that just makes us so 388 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: uneasy and so uncomfortable with this. And you're in wise counsel, 389 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: You're in your church. You're in your small groups, so 390 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: your your your gatherings, you're with your pastor or your elders, 391 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: however you call it in your church, and you're you're 392 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 1: talking through this with them and saying where do we 393 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: draw the line on birth control? And your church may 394 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: have some kind of established idea of this. And if 395 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: you love the church and they're a they're they're a 396 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: healthy church and they have a certain encouragement and they 397 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: probably do on birth control, go with that. Not what 398 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: I say on this podcast. But the important thing and 399 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: the point is you're thinking through this with the biblical worldview, 400 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: and God will honor that as long as he gets 401 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: he gets the glory at the end, and you recognize 402 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: his sovereignty in it. 403 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 2: I think the planning is wise. To not plan is reckless. 404 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: Yeah you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, So that your point is, 405 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: let's just not not the Lord brings babies, so let's 406 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: just not worry about it at all. That's the opposite 407 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: end of the spectrum. And I don't think that's wise either. 408 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 2: Right, right, And then you know, we do see that 409 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: where people just don't care. They're just out for themselves, 410 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 2: and you know, and they end up with babies that 411 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 2: were unplanned and they have to change change things in 412 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: their life. Not always a bad thing, obviously, but to 413 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: not if you're in a healthy relationship, you're getting married, 414 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 2: you're talking about having this conversation, you're planning and thinking 415 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 2: through stuff, just already on the right track. 416 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: Yep. If you want to get a hold of me, 417 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: go to cameo dot com slash granger Smith and I 418 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: could send you a video message made right here on 419 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: my phone whatever you want me to say, Happy birthday, 420 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: happy anniversary. It's a great way for you and I 421 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 1: to stay in contact and to get someone a gift 422 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: that might seem to have everything. Hey, get him a 423 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: gift at cameo dot com slash Grangersmith. Okay, let's get 424 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: into this next question. If you have a question for me, 425 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: by the way, email podcast at grangersmith dot com and 426 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: the next question here, I just got off an airplane. 427 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: That's why I have an airplane voice. Is that a thing? 428 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: Have you heard people say that airplane voice? 429 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 2: But it's also I mean, you're now in the business 430 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 2: of speaking for a living. This is what it's either 431 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: in front of a front of a crowd, you know, congregation, 432 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 2: what have you. It's here on the podcast, or it's 433 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 2: on after midnight mornings with Granger, all of it. That's 434 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 2: what you do now, So this is to be expected. 435 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: All I do is talk, and that just leaves it 436 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: all in the hands of the Lord, because if the 437 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: Lord wants to shut me up, if he wants to 438 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: shut down everything I do, he just stops my voice 439 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: and voice and I am done seeing music. 440 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 2: You still play guitar? 441 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I am done if the Lord decides to 442 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 1: ship my voice off. 443 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 2: Okay. 444 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 1: The next question comes from Brendan. It says, Grandeur, I'm 445 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 1: a longtime fan of country music, even some of your stuff. 446 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: Oh thanks. I'm not the poster child for Christianity, but 447 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: one thing that I've tried to do is watch my language, 448 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: especially when in a crowd of people who don't. I 449 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: figure it's an easy thing to do, and sometimes in 450 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: the room might notice my conviction, and someone in the 451 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: room might notice my conviction and find a similar one 452 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: within themselves, or at least see that the profanity is 453 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: not adding anything to the conversation. Where I've been finding 454 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: an issue is when I'm working on the farm, often alone, 455 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,959 Speaker 1: and I, for example, drop something on my foot. The 456 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: profanity slips out before I can even think to myself, 457 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: don't say that those words in the moment bother me. 458 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: So do you have any advice for a person who 459 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: can control cussing in a crowd but the words are 460 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: enough on the tip of the tongue that they come 461 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: out later, or a mindset you took when you began 462 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: seeing the issue with profanity that helped you. And does 463 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: this mean I can't listen to City Boy Stuck? That's 464 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: part of joke. I listened to a lot of podcasts 465 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: when driving. When I climb into the tractor, yours is 466 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: the first one I always choose. It takes the relaxation 467 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 1: of the tractor work and combines it with great reflection. 468 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: Keep it coming, Brendan See from Kansas, Hey, Brendan, Thanks buddy. 469 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: I appreciate the encouragement to me, and I appreciate the question. 470 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: I think it's a good question. And I also you 471 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: know what I like to say, I like to see 472 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: is when you say I'm not the poster child for Christianity. Same, yeah, same, 473 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: And I think that should always be our heart position, 474 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: the greed. It's like, Lord, I know what you ask 475 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 1: from me, and I see it in your word, and 476 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: yet again I have not lived up to your commands, 477 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: to the obedience that you have asked from me as 478 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: a result of the grace that you've given me through 479 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: your son. So amen, I'm not either the poster child 480 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: for Christianity. And I think that's a good heart position 481 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: for the rest of our lives. Brother, And it's also 482 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: a great question. Your question is basically, look, I'm I'm. 483 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: I can pretty much control myself around Mama and Grandma 484 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: when i'm talking, But when I'm out by myself and 485 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 1: I drop a hair on my foot, out comes the 486 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: F bomb. How do I fix this? And I think 487 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: it's a good question because Jesus was always after the heart. 488 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 1: He wasn't after the facade, he wasn't after what you 489 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: do in public. He was after all of you, which 490 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 1: includes what you do in private. In fact, when it 491 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: comes to sin. He was just as interested, if not more, 492 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: interested in what you do in private, because that truly 493 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: reveals who you are. And so I think it's a 494 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: great question to be thinking through. How do I control 495 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: myself in private, not just in public. And it's so 496 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: interesting when people say this is not you, Brendan, but 497 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: when people say things like, man, I just I can't 498 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: control what I say. I am what I am, and 499 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: I always think I have no filter. Yeah, I have 500 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: no filter. And I always think everyone has a filter. 501 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: You wouldn't go to the the superintendent of your school 502 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: district and draw F bombs. You probably wouldn't say it 503 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: around your grandma, depending on your grandma. If you went 504 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: to a cocktail dinner with the governor of your state 505 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: and you got five minutes with him, you probably wouldn't 506 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: drop the F bomb. So everyone has a somewhere. Some 507 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: are smaller than others, but everyone has one. So everyone 508 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: has the same filter in private. Here's here's where I 509 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: want to go, Brendan. Most likely, and I love that 510 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: you're thinking through it. That's great. Most likely in this scenario, 511 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: we need to look at what we're consuming in our lives, 512 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: because if we're consuming rated our movies all the time. 513 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: If we're listening to other podcasts with cussing all the time, 514 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: if we're listening to music with cussing all the time, 515 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: then it is second nature for us and it becomes 516 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: the default. So when we have a facade of filter 517 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: around Grandma and in public, but we what happens in 518 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: private reveals what's really in there. That's also a pretty good, 519 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: pretty good indication of what we're consuming. So I would 520 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: say begin Brendan to eradicate and pay close attention to 521 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: what you're paying attention to, whatever it is in your 522 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: life that you are focused on. Pay attention to what 523 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: that is that you're focused on. What do I mean 524 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: by that? I mean, I mean start taking accountability throughout 525 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: the day. If you're if your way of relaxing is 526 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: watching a movie that's that's got murder and shoot them 527 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: up and sex and adultery and cussing all in the movie, 528 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: and you say that's just the way I relax That 529 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: is penetrating your soul. These are things that are that 530 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: are slowly bleeding into your life, and so eradicate that, 531 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: start to pull out instead of saying, how do I 532 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: control myself in private? Grade er. I say, start to 533 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: control what you're consuming, and I think that that will 534 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: take care of itself. What do you have on this end? 535 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 2: Pretty elementary and but it goes along with that. And 536 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 2: I want to have a nice yard. I don't know 537 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 2: anything about having a nice yard, like I don't know 538 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 2: all the mechanics of it. And keep it mowed, try 539 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 2: to keep it green. And then I found out that 540 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 2: you know, there are weeds in certain parts, but when 541 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 2: I'm mow, evidently I end up spreading the seed into 542 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 2: other parts of the yard that didn't have weeds in 543 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 2: it before. And then I'm trying to battle both of them, right, 544 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 2: And that's kind of how I see and how it's 545 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,239 Speaker 2: I feel it's been in my life with cursing. Just 546 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: like you said, if you don't eradicate it in one 547 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 2: area what you listen to and what you consume, it's 548 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: going to spread to other parts of your life. And 549 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: if it becomes I mean, he's concerned with it when 550 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 2: he's when he drops a hammer. That's really cool that 551 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 2: you're like that, because if you weren't concerned with it, 552 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: then you'll just eventually not be concerned with it when 553 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 2: you're with friends and then it becomes normal there and 554 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 2: then you won't really be concerned with it when you're 555 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 2: with your parents or in a place where you don't 556 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 2: And then you say it and you realize you shouldn't 557 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 2: have said something in that instance or in that in 558 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 2: that uh, in that atmosphere, and you're like, where how 559 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 2: did this come about? Well, go back to how you 560 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 2: were feeling no longer feeling convicted when you said it alone, 561 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, And it just continues to spread throughout 562 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 2: your life if you let it and you don't. It's 563 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: a weed, you know, yeah, And you don't take care 564 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 2: of it when it's small, it starts taking root in 565 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 2: other parts of your life. 566 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: And Brennan, I've been there. I know exactly. That's that was. 567 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,719 Speaker 1: That was a level of sanctification with me where I 568 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: was frustrated with things that came out of my mouth 569 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: when I it was a reflex, so a knee jerk. 570 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 2: That's a conversation, you know. I said, I didn't want 571 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 2: to listen. I like these podcasts, but I wanted to 572 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 2: start weeding these out because the language and them were 573 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 2: just awful. It was guy a podcast, so guys just 574 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 2: cuss around each other. Well, guys don't have to cuss 575 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 2: around each other like that's it doesn't have to be 576 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 2: part of your life. 577 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And and to the end to the question, 578 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: does this mean I can't listen to City Boy Stuck? 579 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: That's part of what I'm saying. 580 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: The most important question right there's yeah. 581 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: I mean literally, that's what I'm saying. You're gonna hear, 582 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, eventually I put that I will put out 583 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: a live record for the just the last concert that 584 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: I did, and you'll hear if there ever was a 585 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: cuss word, a D word, or an H word, all 586 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: of those were turned into heck heck no on is that? 587 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: Yeah that city boy stuck? Yeah, city boy stuck is 588 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: heck no on the live record, And even that that 589 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: was a form of sanctification for me to get there. 590 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: And then even beyond that, it's like I shouldn't even 591 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: say that, and so so yeah, it depends on what 592 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: you're consuming, what you're surrounding yourself with. And I'm sorry 593 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: I was that influence. I was a bad influence on 594 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: people as Earl Devils Junior and with the music, So 595 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: forgive me of that. I'm I'm trying to eradicate that 596 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: out of my life as well. 597 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 2: They're close to the end of your year tour. When 598 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 2: I would go out with you, I would like what 599 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 2: you have on right now in ears. I would have 600 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: those in while I was shooting photos whatever I was doing, 601 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 2: and I would because when you have them thata close 602 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,719 Speaker 2: to your ear drum, you hear the full word, not 603 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 2: what you are used to singing in the song. And 604 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, he's changing the words the songs. Yeah, yeah, 605 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 2: there's a change. And he was a started notice on that. 606 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: Then yeah. Next question comes from Travis says, Hey, hope 607 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: you're having I hope it's going I hope your day 608 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: is going well. Sorry. I found your podcast a few 609 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: months ago during some long hours at work, and it 610 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: made me think about God, and that makes me think 611 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: about my old roommate. I'm glad, first of all. On 612 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: the side note, I'm glad that I'll make you think 613 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: of God. Sorry airplane voice. Have I said that yet? 614 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: I found his listing on Facebook, but of looking for 615 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: a renter in a room I had to move for 616 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: school and couldn't find anything I could afford. I moved 617 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: in with him and had a great time with him 618 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: and his fiance. I proposed to my now wife in 619 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: that house and then moved out a few months later. 620 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,879 Speaker 1: We would hang out from time to time. Then one 621 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: Thursday in December, we were supposed to hang out. I 622 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: had a garage with a dartboard. We started a game, 623 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: a game we never got to finish. I texted him 624 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: a few times that day to make sure he was 625 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: still up to hang out. No response. A few hours later, 626 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: he texted or so I thought it was his wife. 627 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: He had taken his life that day. Around one year, 628 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: around the one year mark, I sent a Facebook message 629 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: to his widow, but it never went through. My wife 630 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,720 Speaker 1: was able to message her just fine. I'm not sure 631 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: if this is a message from God or not. He 632 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: was a very religious person. Christmas was his favorite time 633 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 1: of year. Now for my question, should I keep trying 634 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: to reach out to the widow of my friend or 635 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: leave it? Since since the first time the message didn't 636 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 1: go through, I've driven by the house a few times 637 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 1: and it doesn't look to be kept up. I think 638 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: she moved back to her parents' house. They are all 639 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: of us are in our early twenties. Thanks in advanced 640 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: Travis okay, tough situation, Travis, let me kind of dive in. 641 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: There's this is multi layered, so let me dive in 642 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: as if we're sitting in the caboat truck. I'm gonna 643 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: start with you found my podcast a few months ago 644 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: and it made you think about God. That's interesting to me. 645 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: Let's come back to it. Secondly, you got a buddy 646 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:53,439 Speaker 1: from Facebook because of the room for rent. It wasn't 647 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,439 Speaker 1: a great buddy, it was just a good acquaintance. Right. 648 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 2: Sounds like they did a lot of life together. 649 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: They did some life together. Yeah. The message to the 650 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: widow that didn't go through, is this a message from 651 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: God or No? God's not going to communicate through a 652 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: failed Facebook message. God is sovereign over everything, including Facebook messages. 653 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: So if God didn't want the message to go through, 654 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: he will do it or not. That's not a question. 655 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: The question is was God trying to send you a 656 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: cryptic message through the mess through the Facebook message not 657 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 1: going through that? No, the Bible doesn't speak in terms 658 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: of God knowing us in that way or speaking to 659 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: us that way. He speaks to us in one way, 660 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 1: and that is through the Son, the Word of God, 661 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: the Son made flesh, Jesus through the Bible. We have 662 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: sixty six books God Inspired, written by over forty different 663 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 1: authors over the course of fifteen hundred years, revealing the 664 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: truth of who God is and how He has revealed 665 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: himself to us to reconcile us to himself, to bring 666 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 1: us to himself through his on Jesus. That's the way 667 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 1: he communicates to you, not through a failed Facebook message. 668 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 1: That's a cryptic. Should I know if this is God 669 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: trying to say something like we're in the movie American Treasure. 670 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: What's that movie treasure? The National Treasure? It's not National Treasure. 671 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 2: Sorry, I wasn't help there. 672 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: Okay, So we've established that, and then let's look into 673 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: he was a very religious person. Christmas was his famous 674 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: favorite time of year. That's not really part of this topic. 675 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: I'll lay off that. Should you keep reaching out to 676 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,280 Speaker 1: the widow or be very careful because she's a widow, 677 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 1: she's single, and you're married, so you have to be 678 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 1: careful with that dynamic. I love that she is reaching 679 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: your wife is reaching out. It's a great thing, but 680 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: you don't want to send them a signal that you 681 00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: are reaching out privately to a widow. That is vulnerable 682 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 1: to a very nice man that just wants to help. 683 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 1: That's a bad situation. Let's stay clear of that. You've 684 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: been up by the house, it looks like it needs 685 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 1: to be kept up. Work through your wife in that. 686 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 2: It's great. 687 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 1: It's a biblical command, of course to take care of 688 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: widows and orphans. But make sure you're doing this in 689 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: a responsible way. I e. Through your wife and have 690 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: her reach out and say, hey, I saw that the 691 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: house has some weeds. Do you mind if I send 692 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 1: my husband over there. He's got a weed eater and 693 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: he'd be happy to take care of it. And that way, 694 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: you're protecting your own marriage through a potential temptation as 695 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: simple as that. You don't have to go any further 696 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: than that. And she's in her early twenties, most likely 697 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: she will be remarried. I don't say that with trying 698 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: to be without sensitivity to the situation, but this typically 699 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 1: typically what's going to happen is she'll re marry. As 700 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: difficult as this situation is, and she's going to be okay, 701 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 1: very very I mean unbelievably difficult situations. So I'm not 702 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: trying to be insensitive, but this is different. If she's 703 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: she's seventy years old and she's a widow and she 704 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: doesn't have a family, and she doesn't have That's when 705 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: you go over and you go, ma'am, I'd like to 706 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: like to start doing your grass, to take care of 707 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: your grass, if that's okay, And maybe I can come 708 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 1: and clean some of this stuff off your front porch. 709 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 1: That's a different situation then she's early twenties, yes, and 710 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: you're going, is there anything I can help you with? Right? Okay? Yeah, 711 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 1: I agreed. I think the most important part of this 712 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 1: entire email is the first sentence. I found her podcast 713 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: a few months ago, and it made me think about God. 714 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: I think, if anything, Travis, I want to use this 715 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: as an opportunity, not for the grieving widow, not for 716 00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 1: the guilt that you may have. There's always a weird 717 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: guilt around suicide. In fact, yesterday I was speaking at 718 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: a church and a man came up to me afterward 719 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,879 Speaker 1: and he said that his dad just committed suicide two 720 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 1: months ago. And he said, I'm having trouble grieving and 721 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: I don't know why, and I'm no grief book seems 722 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,760 Speaker 1: to matter to me, No advice anyone gives me seems 723 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 1: to matter to me, And I said, I said, that's 724 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 1: because suicide it carries a different weight to it, because 725 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: it carries a sinister guilt into all the people that 726 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: knew that person, thinking could I have done more? It's 727 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 1: not like a cancer, it's not like a heart attack, 728 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 1: it's not like a car accident. This is something that 729 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 1: everyone around the suicide starts questioning themselves. Oh, you think 730 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: about the last conversation you had, You think about the 731 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: last time you're with him? Should think about it? Should 732 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 1: I see have seen it? Should I have reported it? 733 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 1: Should I have done more? Everyone thinks that that's different 734 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 1: than cancer. So, Travis, this is a little bit of 735 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,879 Speaker 1: what's going on with you. You're thinking, Man, that dart game 736 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: I texted him no response? Should I have texted him 737 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: an hour earlier? Should I have scheduled that dark game 738 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: the day before? If I had, would this have been different? 739 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: So recognize that this is part of your struggle and 740 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: go ahead, Well. 741 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 2: No, you've already touched on it. But man, that you 742 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 2: saying that's part of your struggle to then latch onto 743 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,240 Speaker 2: someone of the opposite sex, to go, oh, we're struggling 744 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 2: with the same thing. Is very, very, very dangerous. So 745 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 2: if you think that there was a man, and I 746 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 2: know there's not, but if you think there was a 747 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 2: message from God and not getting that that message through 748 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 2: to her on Facebook, I would just consider it protection 749 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 2: and move on. 750 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: That's great. 751 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 2: Just you were protected. You made a rash decision and 752 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 2: shot her a private message that was protection that it 753 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 2: didn't go through. 754 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: I think that's great. I think it's great. It's not 755 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 1: there's a difference between God protecting you and God sending 756 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: you a crypt a cryptic message through the message not 757 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 1: going through like a man saying let it go. And 758 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: then let's start thinking about why my podcast makes you 759 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: think about God. And I'm very grateful that the Lord 760 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: could possibly use this podcast for someone to so that 761 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 1: he might draw someone to himself. If I'm that if 762 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 1: this podcast the Lord uses this podcast as a conduit 763 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: for that man, that's amazing and so encouraging. But I 764 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 1: want to follow up on that and say, Travis, I 765 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:50,400 Speaker 1: would I would think about how God does reveal himself 766 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: because if you're if you're open to the consideration that 767 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 1: God might message you, send a cryptic message through Facebook 768 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 1: to you, I would consider what Christians know to be 769 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 1: true in the way that God has revealed himself, and 770 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: that is through the Bible. And we spoke a little 771 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 1: bit about that. But then I would I would consider 772 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: why God has revealed himself in the Bible, and what 773 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 1: the message of that Bible is. And truly the message 774 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: of that Bible is that you cannot be good enough 775 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: for Him. That you could, you could not make up 776 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:31,399 Speaker 1: for the sin that has separated you from God, which 777 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: is a rebellion of God, who created the world and 778 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 1: it was good, and he created man in his own 779 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: image and it was good. And then man rebelled against 780 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 1: him in the garden, instantly wanting to be God himself 781 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 1: in a way, and through that we have inherited that sin, 782 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 1: and all of us have followed suit with our original 783 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 1: father Adam. And you could testify this to yourself. I can't. 784 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: You can't at and Travis, you can to. Thinking back 785 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 1: to have you rebelled against Gott? Have you used yourself 786 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 1: in a self centered, controlling way where you become your 787 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,399 Speaker 1: own God, in charge of your own salvation, in charge 788 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: of your own destiny. The answer is always to that, yes, 789 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: we all have. And so you think, well, what do 790 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: I do to make up for this? How do I 791 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 1: fix this problem? And the truth is that that would 792 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 1: be like a murderer sitting in the courtroom saying, Judge, 793 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 1: I'm really sorry I murdered. I committed a huge crime, 794 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: and I want to tell you I've learned my lesson 795 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 1: and I want to do better. How could I do it? 796 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 1: And the judge says, I don't really care what you 797 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 1: say about who you are now and that you've changed. 798 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 1: In order for me to be just, in order for 799 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,839 Speaker 1: me to be a good judge, I have to carry 800 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 1: out my punishment. And so that's a major problem with humans, 801 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,479 Speaker 1: and that steff to God. But God knowing this, knowing 802 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: that we couldn't make our way to him. The story 803 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 1: of the Bible literally is that God came to us. 804 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:14,720 Speaker 1: He condescended himself, the creator of the universe, to become man, 805 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 1: to come into his own universe that he created, to 806 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 1: live the perfect life, to be the example of what 807 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,760 Speaker 1: atom should have been, the original atom that failed. God 808 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: comes in the form of man as Jesus to be 809 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 1: the second atom, to be the perfect one, who then 810 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 1: went to the cross and died as a sacrifice, the 811 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 1: ultimate sacrifice of all that punishment I said that the 812 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: judge gives to the murder. Jesus takes that punishment on himself. 813 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: He takes the sin of the world, all of it, 814 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 1: onto himself from the wrath of God, the punishment that 815 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: the just judge has to still punish. So now back 816 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 1: to the scenario of the murder, he goes, Judge, what 817 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 1: can I do? Judge gets a notice and he goes, Actually, 818 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: a man has stepped in your place and taking your 819 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 1: punishment on himself. So now I'm just to set you free. 820 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: And now that you're free, you live a life of 821 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 1: gratitude in obedience to the one that sets you free. 822 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 1: That's what the Bible says Jesus did for us. And 823 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: so I want you to explore this idea that the 824 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,240 Speaker 1: Bible says. And if God communicates with us in this way, 825 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: and there is only one way that he made for 826 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 1: us to be able to know him and to know 827 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 1: what he wants, to know what he loves, to know 828 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: what he hates. If there is only one way the Bible, 829 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 1: then then then there must be a need for you 830 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 1: to read it like an instruction manual for your own life. 831 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 1: And then there must be a community called the church 832 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 1: that could surround you and help carry you through situations 833 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,360 Speaker 1: like this, this Facebook thing, Travis. That's my encouragement to you. 834 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 1: You have anything to add to that encouragement before. I 835 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: appreciate you guys, all of y'all for emailing and if 836 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,879 Speaker 1: you want to yeah, if you want to keep it coming, 837 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 1: shoot a message to podcast at grangersmith dot com and 838 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 1: like always, we'll see you next Monday. Thanks for joining 839 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 1: me on the Grangersmith podcast. I appreciate all of you guys. 840 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,920 Speaker 1: You could help me out by rating this podcast on iTunes. 841 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 1: If you're on YouTube, subscribe to this channel, hit that 842 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 1: little like button and notification spell so that you never 843 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,240 Speaker 1: miss anytime I upload a video. Yigi