WEBVTT - Draft Preview - Sam Darnold 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:04.320 The games over the devil are the world devil? You 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:08.840 plenty to win the game. He's got it. That's Jet touckdown, 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:20.279 can't You're listening to the Official New York Jets Podcast, 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:25.239 a Jets three sixty production. With the third pick in 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:28.200 the two thousand and eighteen NFL drafts, the New York 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:34.720 Jets select Sam Donald quarterback USC. That's right, Jets Nations 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:37.920 Sam Donald, the number three overall selection four months in 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:41.840 the making lead to the USC quarterback for the Jets 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:44.640 in the first round. Ethan Greenberg and Eric Allen here 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:48.000 in studio on the Official Jets Podcast, we got a 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:50.840 loaded show. What are people gonna be here in today? Well, 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:54.360 we're gonna be here from Sam Donald's collegiate coach, that 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:58.240 is Clay Helton. We also talked to the A four 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:02.360 mentioned Sam Donald on his first day here in Florham 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:04.320 Park as a member of the New York Jets. And 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:07.640 then finally, a lot of the draft pundits out there 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:11.680 have praised Mike mcagnet and the Jets scouting staff for 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:16.440 grabbing Donald at number three overall. Included amongst that bunch 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:18.600 is Matt Miller, And we got a chance to talk 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:21.840 to him. You're absolutely right, we did, and this is 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:24.400 some pretty unique sound that we're gonna have on this show. 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:27.400 But e a for fans that don't know anything about 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:29.120 Sam Donald, which I would imagine it would be a 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:32.319 small contingency. Who is Sam Donald? Why is he a 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:35.839 good fit here? And why was he so productive at USC? Well? 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:41.119 First off, Sam Donald is the sixth first round quarterback 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:45.560 selected in franchise history, and that's something that's really something 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:49.680 because this franchise goes back to the days nineteen sixty, 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:54.280 so the Jets haven't taken a ton of quarterbacks as 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:57.680 far as the first round is concerned. But Donald was 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:01.200 a two year starter SC. He's a guy who led 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:04.840 them to a Rose Bowl victory in his first year 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:08.680 of dramatic victory over Penn State. He is a guy 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:14.280 who is ultra talented in terms of making good throws 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:18.919 when his feet are bad. Everybody talks about his athleticism 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:22.680 greens as far as okay, he can go through his 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:25.760 progressions inside the pocket, but he's also good making place 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:31.080 off script and finally, last, but not least, leadership. The 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:34.639 guy has a lot of charisma. People are drawn to him. 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:38.040 He has a tremendous upside as well. Just twenty years old, 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:41.120 will turn twenty one in June. That should make you 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:44.120 feel old. It does make me feel old, and I 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:45.880 know he a We we talked about this on a 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:49.600 previous podcast when we analyze Donald, is that if you 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:54.200 had one reference for a beer for Sam Donald, it 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.440 was dog Fish Hat at the time. Just but then 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:57.919 I asked you again and you said you might want 0:02:57.919 --> 0:02:59.720 to go with something a little more West Coast. Yeah. Man, 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:02.000 we go into Stone Right because that's a brewery in 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:07.120 southern California. And we gotta pay homage to southern California 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:10.800 because the Jets take Sam Donald in the first round. 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:15.360 So I think a lot of Jets fans were toasting 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:18.600 the selection of Mike mcagnet on Draft night. I think 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:21.840 that they'd have to be. They'd be foolish not to be, 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:24.359 especially when you hear all these draft pundits on NFL 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:27.720 Network ESPN. We're gonna talk to Matt Miller about this later. 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:32.120 Across the board, everyone seemed that Sam Donald was the 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:37.120 number one quarterback prospects and he fell to number three. 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:39.680 And we broke it down a couple of days before 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:42.360 the draft that it was possible that it could happen, 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:45.400 and indeed it ended up happening. So I think we 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:47.360 should pat ourselves in the back for a little bit 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:51.000 right there. Well, I thought there was a chance that happened. 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:55.080 But when myself and you were right here in this 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.760 studio and we went through the exercise, I kind of 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.120 thought it was gonna be Josh Chalon who the Browns 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:04.080 would take with the number one overall selection. And then 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:07.280 we go back to our days in Indianapolis when everybody 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:09.480 was talking about se Kwon Barkley, how clean of a 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:12.120 pick he was, and how well he was going to 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:15.440 perform at the combine, and indeed he did that. E 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:19.400 Ever since that in February, I really thought the Giants 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.720 were probably gonna take Barkley, and indeed that happened. We'll 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:27.480 never know what would have the Jets done if Baker 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:30.800 Mayfield won one and then Donald went to and then 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:33.600 the Jets picked three. I mean, there's a thousand different 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:37.720 scenarios that will never know. But because I'll tell you what, 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:42.400 the Jets exciting Jets getting somebody. It was Passer at 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:45.839 usc and he of fifty seven touchdowns and twenty two 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:48.880 interceptions along the way, and he also averaged four yards 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.640 to carry. Sam Donald is very impressive, not only on 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:56.000 the field, but listening to his press conference, He's very 0:04:56.040 --> 0:05:00.240 collected and you you often use the term California cool. Well, 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:03.760 he seemed to be in control of it. Didn't seem 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:06.160 that the media questions that you knew were gonna get 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:09.440 thrown at him really phased him. And we've talked about 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:12.440 this before, and I saw this a couple of different places. 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:14.880 If you look at the successful New York athletes in 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.440 the past, and I'm not saying Sam Donald is certainly 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:20.200 going to be successful, but he definitely has a couple 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:23.880 of the same characteristics that other athletes that succeeded in 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.680 New York did, people like Derek Jeter. I'm gonna throw 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:30.400 in someone from the NHL world for you, Mark Messier 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:35.160 when he played for the Rangers. You don't, I do 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:38.560 you do vaguely? Vaguely? Why do you tell the listeners 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:42.960 how old you were? Messier raised that cup? Well, it 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:46.520 depends when was the cup hoisted the exact day it 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.880 was in June. That still doesn't help. Because I was 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:54.279 born in June. I believe it was like a June 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:57.440 twelve or so. Well, well then I was not on 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:02.320 this earth. I was almost one years old. I was 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:09.000 almost zero years old. I love how you. I've done 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:14.920 my research those two guys, Eli, Yes, thank you. I 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:20.159 would say those three for sure. But they're the rather 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:25.560 you know, stoic in the way they operate on the field, 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:29.000 and they just kind of seemed unfazed by everything from 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:31.320 a media perspective and off the field. And one thing 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:33.880 about Sam Donald that everyone says is you never have 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:37.159 to worry about him when you leave work because he's 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:39.560 not gonna You're not gonna wake up with a call 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:41.360 at three thirty in the morning that Sam Donald did 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:44.320 something bad. He was raised right. We were going to 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:48.160 hear from him here in a few moments. But the 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:53.800 son of a medical gas plumber, his mother physical education 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:58.279 teacher at the middle school level, and his older sister 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:01.320 and accomplished vol of ball player, and now she's coaching 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:03.400 at the University of Rodout where there you have at 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:06.320 go Rhodies. That's what Sam Donald said in his press conference. 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:10.000 But I think it's time that we should speak to 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:12.760 Clay Hilton. You actually spoke to him a couple of 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:16.640 days ago, and he really had some interesting insight on 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:20.320 what made Sam Donald a top prospect in the NFL draft. 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:25.320 There aren't many people who know New Jets quarterback Sam 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:29.600 Donald and USC head coach Clay Hilton coach after Sam, 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:31.960 what twenty four is a starter for you? And one 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:34.440 of Rose Bowl along the way. He was drafted by 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:38.720 the Jets with the third overall selection. How did Sam 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:43.920 help you set the tone at USC? Well, everybody sees 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.480 the production on the field, but what I was most 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:49.320 proud of while he was with us is just the 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:52.080 culture that he established in the locker room on a 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:55.120 day to day basis. I mean, he's a true professional, 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.400 you know, tries to be a master of his craft, 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:00.560 student in the game, first one in, last one to go, 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:03.360 and the other players see that he's a guy that 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:07.680 leads by example, that works his tail off, and the 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:11.520 other guys follow because they respect that he defined our 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:14.880 culture in our building. And I think that's a very 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:18.000 valuable thing when you especially for the quarterback position. How 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:21.040 did the system there at USC that you guys ran 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:25.920 offensively help him make the pro transition? Because Sam went 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:30.240 through a lot of multi route progressions, also had to 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:34.760 remike and I'll help you guys set protections up front. Yeah, 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:37.440 you know, we've r in this same system here basically 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.880 almost since two thousand one. It is a pro style 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:43.120 system that is a multi progression system getting five men out, 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:46.600 and we do allow the quarterback to have the opportunity 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.400 to remike any timing once. I think that's one of 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:52.120 the areas he's grown a lot over the last two years, 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:55.520 is protecting himself by remiking. We also give him the 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:58.760 ability to get us in the correct play, diagnosed front, 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.240 diagnosed coverage, and be able to get us in the 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:04.520 correct rouno, the correct pass depending on what he sees. 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:07.520 And uh so, you know, and he grew in all 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:10.240 those areas while I was here, and when he left us, 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:12.360 I mean it was just we all knew as a 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.400 coaching staff he's pro ready. I mean, he's ready to 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:18.360 go lead an organization when his time comes. That's music 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.520 to a Jets fans years of course, coach, he said, 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:24.360 Sam is the highest ceiling of anybody in this draft 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.040 and he's only twenty years old. He's gonna turn twenty 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:30.560 one this summer. Are you excited to watch him as 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:34.800 his pro career starts? And are you amazed how wise 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:38.480 he is beyond his years. I saw it when I 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:41.080 first met him when he was sixteen and just said, 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:44.160 oh my gosh, this guy's sixteen going on twenty six, 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:47.200 and he's always been that way, that maturity and that 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:49.880 poise that he brings to the table. And I'm just 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.840 fascinated that the guys don't have been here five semesters 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.160 and he's been with us two and a half years, 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:58.320 and to see his progress and to know that he 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:01.680 hasn't even touched his ceiling yet, I can't even imagine 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:03.920 where he's going to be two, three or four years 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:08.000 down the road. He's just a really terrific prospect, a 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:11.840 dynamic player and person. The Jets really hit the lottery 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.600 with this pick. I'm so glad to the well coach 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:17.560 Clay Halton. We appreciate your time and thank you so 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:22.679 much for your great insight today. Green's My major takeaway 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:26.839 there is that Halton said, this guy is a tremendous 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:31.960 communicator and he provided that one on one leadership from 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:36.160 the get go at USC and he was a program changer. 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:39.760 And you could tell just listening to Clay Holton how 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:44.280 much he meant to him as far as that program 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:47.880 is concerned because he went about it the right way 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:51.720 and he earned the respect of that coaching staff, the fans, 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:56.360 and most importantly, teammates. I think what really stood out 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:59.880 to me was what you mentioned when he was entering 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:04.400 the week of starting his first game at Utah and 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:09.000 he brings Juju Smith Schuster over and talks with one alone. 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:10.800 He's like, hey, man, like we you know, we gotta 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.720 focus him over here for and the fact that Jujue 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:15.480 was like, yeah, man, you're right, You're right about that. 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:17.959 We we gotta get to work. Thank you to me, 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:20.880 that speaks volumes because because they didn't want the guys 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:24.480 celebrating too much and practice, because what they were doing 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:28.240 was this executing, just keeping your mindset on the task 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:31.320 at hand. And Sam is very young, like you said, 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:35.600 he's gonna be twenty one in June, and he's walking 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:37.920 into a rather young team and the fact that he 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:40.640 has the courage to do something like that in college 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:43.800 can only bode well for what he's going to do 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:46.400 in the NFL. And how about this where Clay Helton 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:49.040 Sam donald story. He didn't mention this, but I heard 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:51.760 this on a separate interview with Clay Helton is that 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.800 someone asked him, what's an example of Sam Donald's work ethic, 0:11:56.400 --> 0:12:00.200 and he said, I'll give you an example from last week. Again, 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.680 at the time, this was probably a week or so 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:06.079 before the draft. So Halton said, I came in to 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:08.240 work at six thirty in the morning and Sam Donald 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:12.280 was already throwing, already working with some USC staff on 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:15.400 their indoor turf field. And he walked up to Donald 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:17.600 and he said, Sam, well, what are you doing, buddy? 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.200 And he said, coach, this is this is every day now. 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:24.280 So if you have any questions, if Sam Donald gets it, 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:28.839 there should be none because he fully understands what he 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.560 needs to do. He has a tremendous work ethic, and 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:35.320 he's gonna give his for the New York Chess movie, didn't. 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:39.480 Charlie Castley works for NFL Network now, of course, say 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:45.640 that he pulled twenty four general managers around draft time 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:49.280 and said, hey, who was the top quarterback on your board? 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:51.960 And seventeen of them said Sam Donald. He did say 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:55.640 that someone else that had Sam Donald number one is 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:59.200 Bleacher Reports Matt Miller, and that's another guy that's very 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:02.120 high on Samald. So let's listen to hear what at 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:06.240 NFL Draft scout had to say. Now let's bring in 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:10.160 bleacher reports Matt Miller, who continues to do an excellent 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:14.000 job as NFL Draft scout. You can follow him on Twitter. 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:18.200 Matt You said after the Jets grabbed Sam Donald with 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:21.040 the number three overall selection that he was the best 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:25.600 quarterback in this class. Why, man, I think Sam Donald 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.120 is a special kid and a special player. I mean, 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:30.400 and he's he's twenty years old. I feel like I 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:32.600 am finally old enough to because use the kid label 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:34.880 for him. But I think the things that I look 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:39.280 for a quarterback accuracy, toughness, poise, the ability to take 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:42.040 over games in the clutch, and just how great of 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:44.520 a fit he is for that Jeremy Bates offense, because 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.200 he's athletic enough to get outside the pocket a little bit. 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:49.800 He has that thick frame where he's not gonna break 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:51.480 down in the cold, He's not gonna break down if 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.040 he gets hit a little bit. And he's so good 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:57.640 spinning the ball in tight places. His timing and anticipation 0:13:57.679 --> 0:13:59.960 I thought were the best in the class. His accurate 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:03.240 see especially up the scene, is dangerous. And then he 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:05.680 is just so gritty and he's not gonna let little 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:07.800 things rattle him. And I think something you and I've 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:10.120 talked about before is that when you're drafted to play 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:12.319 quarterbacks the New York Jets, you've gotta be able to 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:16.480 walk into a hospital environment with the expectations, the biggest 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:19.240 media market in the country, and everyone watching you to 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.560 see if you're gonna crumble or if you're gonna write 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:23.200 to the occasion. And I think that the way that 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:25.600 he's made up the intangibles allowed to do that. But 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:28.600 on the field it sounds cliche, but it factor. He 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:31.560 has it. Matt, you know the city very well. You're 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:34.880 often here doing stuff for Bleacher Report. What do you 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:39.400 think about his steadiness off the field? Now, he's kind 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.480 of a businessman in the sense that, hey, listen, he 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:45.280 wants to put the hard hat on and go to work. Yeah, 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:47.720 we'll take care of his media obligations, but he's not 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:53.200 really worried about too much what's happening externally. Finally, you're 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:54.800 have to worry about Sam Darnald getting caught up in 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:56.760 the light of New York. He's might gonna trying to 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:59.480 get a marketing deal or a fashion deal. He's gonna 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:01.320 be great for Jersey. He just wants to go to 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:04.120 work and care about football, and I think that is 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.280 one thing that I remember talking to you last year 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:09.360 about Mitch Drabinski was guys like that are perfect for 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:12.480 this situation that's really unique in New York because they're 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:14.920 not going to get sucked in by everything else. They're 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:18.040 gonna be workers and really just dedicated to football. And 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.200 I think he fits that moment really well. What did 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:23.440 you see the differences in him from two thousand sixteen 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:25.960 to two thousand and seventeen. He passed for more yards 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:29.800 last season as a junior. I know, the turnovers one up, 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:33.160 and some people express concerns about that as well, but 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.680 he's working with some different personnel. Yeah, I think that's 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:40.520 a big parton and I think stats always need context, right, So, yeah, 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:42.280 he had a lot of turnovers last year, and I 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:44.520 think you can look at someone like Marcus Mariotta who 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.320 fumbled a decent amountain college and hasn't been a bumbler 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:50.080 in the NFL, so you can obviously make corrections to 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:52.560 clean that up. And I know that's something he talked about, was, 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:54.640 you know, he needed to change some things with his 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:57.560 delivery so that he's not dropping the ball down so much. 0:15:57.600 --> 0:15:59.840 And I'm a firm believer that a coach like j 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:02.000 Emmy Bates can really get in there and help clean 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:04.880 up some of the issues that that I saw on tape. 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:07.400 But it's not like you've got to reinvent the wheel here. 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:09.600 I mean, he was highly successful at USC the last 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:11.800 two years, and I would say this year did so 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:14.800 with not a great supporting cast, especially at the wide 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:18.240 receiver position. He lost three starters on his offensive line 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:21.160 this year and he was a completely different team and 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:24.280 it showed up on tape of times, but he never complained. 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.360 I think he's just the ultimate leader in that he 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:30.480 just he worries about himself and he takes care of 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:33.400 his mistakes, and it's never anyone else's fold. That's Matt 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:36.480 Miller who calls home in the show Me state, of course, 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:40.440 that is Missouri, and he's saying that Mike mccagne has 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:43.840 showing a lot here in his fourththraft as New York 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:47.240 Chess general manager. Greg catching up with you is always Matt, 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:53.040 so Green says. Miller talked about Donald was the top 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:58.560 quarterback on his board, and he thinks that mccagnet's got 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.720 some good forts in surrounding him, because a lot of 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:04.640 people two thousand and fifteen talk about Leonard Williams falling 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:08.040 to the Jets at six. Then you have Jamal Adams 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:11.640 falling to the Jets at six in two thousands seventeen, 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:14.200 and then Mike mcagnant on March seventeenth moving up from 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:17.240 six to three in order to take as Sam Donald, 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:20.199 who most people on St. Patrick's Day, unless they were 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:22.840 having a couple adult beverages, didn't think he was gonna 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:26.200 be there at three. I think that what's most interesting 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:28.840 is that when the Jets made that move in March, 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:33.119 a lot of people around the league said, this is 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:35.640 an interesting trade because you don't really know who's gonna 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.080 be there at number three. And it was one of 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:41.400 the first trades that they could recall, where you make 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:44.960 a move at the time you did and you don't 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:47.159 really know who's gonna be there at the time. And 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.879 at that time everyone thought Sam Donald was gonna go 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:53.600 number one overall to the Browns. And then a week 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:56.679 or so later, the owner of the Browns is in 0:17:56.720 --> 0:18:00.600 the stands of usc s Prota with Sam Donald's parents, 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.520 and then how it's funny how things fall work out, 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:06.080 because you could call it fortune, you could call it 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:08.479 an educated guests, whatever you want to call it. The 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:11.200 fact of the matter is is that the Brown didn't 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:13.919 ended up taking Baker Mayfield. The Cagnet said he had 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:17.200 a good feeling that the Giants very much like say, 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:20.199 Kwon Barkley, and how could you not because he's a 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:23.320 tremendous talent. And then Sam Donald there for the Jets 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:25.040 at three for the taking. I feel like it was 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:28.840 a rather simple decision at that point. I thought it 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:30.760 was a lazy argument because a lot of people were 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.640 saying that just gonna move up to three, just three 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:36.080 selections in the first round, they're gonna give up a 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:40.040 trio of second round picks in the process, and potentially 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:45.160 they're gonna get the third quarterback on their draft board. 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:47.600 But with all that being said, you always had to 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:51.439 let it play out. And what mcagnan did was he 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:54.600 took away a lot of uncertainty because if you were 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:57.320 sitting there at six, who knows what would have happened. 0:18:57.359 --> 0:19:01.040 That changes the dynamic completely for more quarterbacks. One in 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:05.200 the top ten on Thursday night, of course, Baker Makefield 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:09.080 goes one, Sam Donald goes three. The Bills traded up 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:11.960 to seven in order to get to Josh Allen. They 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:15.760 had conversations with the Denver Broncos. In fact, the parameters 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:18.200 of a deal were in place, but the Broncos said, 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:20.480 John I always said, oh no, no, rarely Chubb's on 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:23.919 the board, I'm not doing that trade. But the Bills 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:26.280 still got their guy who they've been linked to for 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:30.119 a long time. And then Arizona made the move up 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:33.200 in order to get to Josh Rosen. I thought Rosen 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:37.080 potentially might fall actually to Miami at eleven, and you 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:43.120 would have saw three a FC East teams. And now 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:45.560 we're getting all this talk about how the Patriots were 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:49.000 very interested in Baker Mayfield. Well know, we don't know 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:53.000 the Patriots tell you that unless Belichick tells you that. Yeah, 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:56.000 unless it comes right from Belichick and he's looking in 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:59.920 the camera and it's recorded, I'm not gonna believe it. 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:02.080 Because everybody was talking about all they're gonna package this, 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:04.040 they're gonna move up, they definitely need a guy and 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:07.200 whatever and things like that. You don't know. The other 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:10.080 thing you don't know is you don't know the way 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:13.600 the Jet's board was stacked. People can't guess all they 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:17.640 want about it. But with all that being said, mccagnan 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:23.000 moved up in March and he got his guy in April. 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:27.080 He should be applauded for that. An aggressive move and 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:30.080 it paid off. Bottom line, it paid off. There was 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:34.240 great value there, no matter what the compensation he gave up. 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:36.840 And I will say this, I understand it from the 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:39.119 what the Colts did, Greens. When you look at what 0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:41.399 the Colts did, I think that in a nice draft. 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:44.360 And this started with Quintin Nelson and number six overall 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:48.080 who everybody said it was the top offensive alignment and 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:51.200 the entire draft. The Colt again, this is a wind 0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:54.760 wind deal and they're saying that he's gonna be healthy. 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:58.360 We were in Indianapolis. Everybody's saying, Chris Bellard told reporters 0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:00.720 there that hey, listen, we're comforta well where he is. 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:02.760 And you don't make that deal unless you think Andrew 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:06.119 luck is coming back. It was a win win in March, 0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:08.560 and it was a win win in April, and now 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:12.480 it's May, it's still a win win. But here's the thing, 0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:14.879 here's another interesting nugge you talked about the potential of 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:17.720 three a f C East quarterbacks. Well, they're definitely two 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:20.879 with Sam Donald and Josh Allen, and they're extremely close. 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:24.600 They've trained together all off season with Jordan Palmer. They'll 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:28.240 be four ever lengthd and not. You're a great point there, 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:30.359 because Donald is gonna be linked to sin Juan Barkley, 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:32.560 no doubt about that. I mean, Barkley goes to and 0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:36.080 then Donald goes three. But obviously the FC East connection 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:39.680 there with Slick and Sam and Josh Allen. Josh Allen 0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:42.280 my had the biggest arm we've ever seen come out. Ever. 0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:46.040 Oh yeah, well, at least in my lifetime. Absolutely, of 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:49.199 course in your lifetime. Well, I'm just saying JaMarcus Russell 0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:51.919 was close. I think did you see Jamanhall Adams sweet 0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:55.800 the other day? I didn't tell fans about that. Yeah, 0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:57.720 I think fans will like it. I didn't know if 0:21:57.760 --> 0:21:59.359 I was gonna bring it up. I'd like you to 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:02.600