1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: The games over the devil are the world devil? You 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: plenty to win the game. He's got it. That's Jet touckdown, 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: can't You're listening to the Official New York Jets Podcast, 4 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: a Jets three sixty production. With the third pick in 5 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: the two thousand and eighteen NFL drafts, the New York 6 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: Jets select Sam Donald quarterback USC. That's right, Jets Nations 7 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: Sam Donald, the number three overall selection four months in 8 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: the making lead to the USC quarterback for the Jets 9 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: in the first round. Ethan Greenberg and Eric Allen here 10 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: in studio on the Official Jets Podcast, we got a 11 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: loaded show. What are people gonna be here in today? Well, 12 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna be here from Sam Donald's collegiate coach, that 13 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: is Clay Helton. We also talked to the A four 14 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: mentioned Sam Donald on his first day here in Florham 15 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: Park as a member of the New York Jets. And 16 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: then finally, a lot of the draft pundits out there 17 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: have praised Mike mcagnet and the Jets scouting staff for 18 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: grabbing Donald at number three overall. Included amongst that bunch 19 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: is Matt Miller, And we got a chance to talk 20 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: to him. You're absolutely right, we did, and this is 21 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: some pretty unique sound that we're gonna have on this show. 22 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: But e a for fans that don't know anything about 23 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: Sam Donald, which I would imagine it would be a 24 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: small contingency. Who is Sam Donald? Why is he a 25 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,839 Speaker 1: good fit here? And why was he so productive at USC? Well? 26 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 1: First off, Sam Donald is the sixth first round quarterback 27 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: selected in franchise history, and that's something that's really something 28 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: because this franchise goes back to the days nineteen sixty, 29 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: so the Jets haven't taken a ton of quarterbacks as 30 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: far as the first round is concerned. But Donald was 31 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: a two year starter SC. He's a guy who led 32 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: them to a Rose Bowl victory in his first year 33 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: of dramatic victory over Penn State. He is a guy 34 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: who is ultra talented in terms of making good throws 35 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: when his feet are bad. Everybody talks about his athleticism 36 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: greens as far as okay, he can go through his 37 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: progressions inside the pocket, but he's also good making place 38 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: off script and finally, last, but not least, leadership. The 39 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: guy has a lot of charisma. People are drawn to him. 40 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: He has a tremendous upside as well. Just twenty years old, 41 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: will turn twenty one in June. That should make you 42 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: feel old. It does make me feel old, and I 43 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: know he a We we talked about this on a 44 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: previous podcast when we analyze Donald, is that if you 45 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: had one reference for a beer for Sam Donald, it 46 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: was dog Fish Hat at the time. Just but then 47 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: I asked you again and you said you might want 48 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: to go with something a little more West Coast. Yeah. Man, 49 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: we go into Stone Right because that's a brewery in 50 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: southern California. And we gotta pay homage to southern California 51 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: because the Jets take Sam Donald in the first round. 52 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: So I think a lot of Jets fans were toasting 53 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: the selection of Mike mcagnet on Draft night. I think 54 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: that they'd have to be. They'd be foolish not to be, 55 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: especially when you hear all these draft pundits on NFL 56 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: Network ESPN. We're gonna talk to Matt Miller about this later. 57 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: Across the board, everyone seemed that Sam Donald was the 58 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: number one quarterback prospects and he fell to number three. 59 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: And we broke it down a couple of days before 60 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: the draft that it was possible that it could happen, 61 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: and indeed it ended up happening. So I think we 62 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: should pat ourselves in the back for a little bit 63 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: right there. Well, I thought there was a chance that happened. 64 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: But when myself and you were right here in this 65 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: studio and we went through the exercise, I kind of 66 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: thought it was gonna be Josh Chalon who the Browns 67 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: would take with the number one overall selection. And then 68 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: we go back to our days in Indianapolis when everybody 69 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: was talking about se Kwon Barkley, how clean of a 70 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: pick he was, and how well he was going to 71 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: perform at the combine, and indeed he did that. E 72 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: Ever since that in February, I really thought the Giants 73 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: were probably gonna take Barkley, and indeed that happened. We'll 74 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: never know what would have the Jets done if Baker 75 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: Mayfield won one and then Donald went to and then 76 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: the Jets picked three. I mean, there's a thousand different 77 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: scenarios that will never know. But because I'll tell you what, 78 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: the Jets exciting Jets getting somebody. It was Passer at 79 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: usc and he of fifty seven touchdowns and twenty two 80 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: interceptions along the way, and he also averaged four yards 81 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: to carry. Sam Donald is very impressive, not only on 82 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: the field, but listening to his press conference, He's very 83 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: collected and you you often use the term California cool. Well, 84 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: he seemed to be in control of it. Didn't seem 85 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: that the media questions that you knew were gonna get 86 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: thrown at him really phased him. And we've talked about 87 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: this before, and I saw this a couple of different places. 88 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: If you look at the successful New York athletes in 89 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: the past, and I'm not saying Sam Donald is certainly 90 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: going to be successful, but he definitely has a couple 91 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: of the same characteristics that other athletes that succeeded in 92 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: New York did, people like Derek Jeter. I'm gonna throw 93 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: in someone from the NHL world for you, Mark Messier 94 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: when he played for the Rangers. You don't, I do 95 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: you do vaguely? Vaguely? Why do you tell the listeners 96 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: how old you were? Messier raised that cup? Well, it 97 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: depends when was the cup hoisted the exact day it 98 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: was in June. That still doesn't help. Because I was 99 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: born in June. I believe it was like a June 100 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: twelve or so. Well, well then I was not on 101 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: this earth. I was almost one years old. I was 102 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: almost zero years old. I love how you. I've done 103 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: my research those two guys, Eli, Yes, thank you. I 104 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: would say those three for sure. But they're the rather 105 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, stoic in the way they operate on the field, 106 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: and they just kind of seemed unfazed by everything from 107 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: a media perspective and off the field. And one thing 108 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: about Sam Donald that everyone says is you never have 109 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: to worry about him when you leave work because he's 110 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: not gonna You're not gonna wake up with a call 111 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: at three thirty in the morning that Sam Donald did 112 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: something bad. He was raised right. We were going to 113 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: hear from him here in a few moments. But the 114 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: son of a medical gas plumber, his mother physical education 115 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: teacher at the middle school level, and his older sister 116 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: and accomplished vol of ball player, and now she's coaching 117 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: at the University of Rodout where there you have at 118 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: go Rhodies. That's what Sam Donald said in his press conference. 119 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: But I think it's time that we should speak to 120 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: Clay Hilton. You actually spoke to him a couple of 121 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: days ago, and he really had some interesting insight on 122 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: what made Sam Donald a top prospect in the NFL draft. 123 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: There aren't many people who know New Jets quarterback Sam 124 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: Donald and USC head coach Clay Hilton coach after Sam, 125 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: what twenty four is a starter for you? And one 126 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: of Rose Bowl along the way. He was drafted by 127 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: the Jets with the third overall selection. How did Sam 128 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: help you set the tone at USC? Well, everybody sees 129 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: the production on the field, but what I was most 130 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: proud of while he was with us is just the 131 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: culture that he established in the locker room on a 132 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: day to day basis. I mean, he's a true professional, 133 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: you know, tries to be a master of his craft, 134 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: student in the game, first one in, last one to go, 135 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: and the other players see that he's a guy that 136 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: leads by example, that works his tail off, and the 137 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: other guys follow because they respect that he defined our 138 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: culture in our building. And I think that's a very 139 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: valuable thing when you especially for the quarterback position. How 140 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: did the system there at USC that you guys ran 141 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: offensively help him make the pro transition? Because Sam went 142 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: through a lot of multi route progressions, also had to 143 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: remike and I'll help you guys set protections up front. Yeah, 144 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: you know, we've r in this same system here basically 145 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: almost since two thousand one. It is a pro style 146 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: system that is a multi progression system getting five men out, 147 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: and we do allow the quarterback to have the opportunity 148 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: to remike any timing once. I think that's one of 149 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: the areas he's grown a lot over the last two years, 150 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: is protecting himself by remiking. We also give him the 151 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: ability to get us in the correct play, diagnosed front, 152 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: diagnosed coverage, and be able to get us in the 153 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: correct rouno, the correct pass depending on what he sees. 154 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: And uh so, you know, and he grew in all 155 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: those areas while I was here, and when he left us, 156 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: I mean it was just we all knew as a 157 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: coaching staff he's pro ready. I mean, he's ready to 158 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: go lead an organization when his time comes. That's music 159 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: to a Jets fans years of course, coach, he said, 160 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: Sam is the highest ceiling of anybody in this draft 161 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: and he's only twenty years old. He's gonna turn twenty 162 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: one this summer. Are you excited to watch him as 163 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: his pro career starts? And are you amazed how wise 164 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: he is beyond his years. I saw it when I 165 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: first met him when he was sixteen and just said, 166 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this guy's sixteen going on twenty six, 167 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: and he's always been that way, that maturity and that 168 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: poise that he brings to the table. And I'm just 169 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: fascinated that the guys don't have been here five semesters 170 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: and he's been with us two and a half years, 171 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: and to see his progress and to know that he 172 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: hasn't even touched his ceiling yet, I can't even imagine 173 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: where he's going to be two, three or four years 174 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: down the road. He's just a really terrific prospect, a 175 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: dynamic player and person. The Jets really hit the lottery 176 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: with this pick. I'm so glad to the well coach 177 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: Clay Halton. We appreciate your time and thank you so 178 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: much for your great insight today. Green's My major takeaway 179 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: there is that Halton said, this guy is a tremendous 180 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: communicator and he provided that one on one leadership from 181 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: the get go at USC and he was a program changer. 182 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: And you could tell just listening to Clay Holton how 183 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: much he meant to him as far as that program 184 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: is concerned because he went about it the right way 185 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: and he earned the respect of that coaching staff, the fans, 186 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: and most importantly, teammates. I think what really stood out 187 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: to me was what you mentioned when he was entering 188 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: the week of starting his first game at Utah and 189 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: he brings Juju Smith Schuster over and talks with one alone. 190 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: He's like, hey, man, like we you know, we gotta 191 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: focus him over here for and the fact that Jujue 192 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, man, you're right, You're right about that. 193 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 1: We we gotta get to work. Thank you to me, 194 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: that speaks volumes because because they didn't want the guys 195 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: celebrating too much and practice, because what they were doing 196 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: was this executing, just keeping your mindset on the task 197 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: at hand. And Sam is very young, like you said, 198 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna be twenty one in June, and he's walking 199 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: into a rather young team and the fact that he 200 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: has the courage to do something like that in college 201 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: can only bode well for what he's going to do 202 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: in the NFL. And how about this where Clay Helton 203 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: Sam donald story. He didn't mention this, but I heard 204 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: this on a separate interview with Clay Helton is that 205 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: someone asked him, what's an example of Sam Donald's work ethic, 206 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: and he said, I'll give you an example from last week. Again, 207 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: at the time, this was probably a week or so 208 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: before the draft. So Halton said, I came in to 209 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: work at six thirty in the morning and Sam Donald 210 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: was already throwing, already working with some USC staff on 211 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: their indoor turf field. And he walked up to Donald 212 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: and he said, Sam, well, what are you doing, buddy? 213 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: And he said, coach, this is this is every day now. 214 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: So if you have any questions, if Sam Donald gets it, 215 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: there should be none because he fully understands what he 216 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: needs to do. He has a tremendous work ethic, and 217 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: he's gonna give his for the New York Chess movie, didn't. 218 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: Charlie Castley works for NFL Network now, of course, say 219 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: that he pulled twenty four general managers around draft time 220 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: and said, hey, who was the top quarterback on your board? 221 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: And seventeen of them said Sam Donald. He did say 222 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: that someone else that had Sam Donald number one is 223 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: Bleacher Reports Matt Miller, and that's another guy that's very 224 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: high on Samald. So let's listen to hear what at 225 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: NFL Draft scout had to say. Now let's bring in 226 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: bleacher reports Matt Miller, who continues to do an excellent 227 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: job as NFL Draft scout. You can follow him on Twitter. 228 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: Matt You said after the Jets grabbed Sam Donald with 229 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: the number three overall selection that he was the best 230 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: quarterback in this class. Why, man, I think Sam Donald 231 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: is a special kid and a special player. I mean, 232 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: and he's he's twenty years old. I feel like I 233 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: am finally old enough to because use the kid label 234 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: for him. But I think the things that I look 235 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: for a quarterback accuracy, toughness, poise, the ability to take 236 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: over games in the clutch, and just how great of 237 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: a fit he is for that Jeremy Bates offense, because 238 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: he's athletic enough to get outside the pocket a little bit. 239 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: He has that thick frame where he's not gonna break 240 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: down in the cold, He's not gonna break down if 241 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: he gets hit a little bit. And he's so good 242 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: spinning the ball in tight places. His timing and anticipation 243 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: I thought were the best in the class. His accurate 244 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: see especially up the scene, is dangerous. And then he 245 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: is just so gritty and he's not gonna let little 246 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: things rattle him. And I think something you and I've 247 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: talked about before is that when you're drafted to play 248 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 1: quarterbacks the New York Jets, you've gotta be able to 249 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: walk into a hospital environment with the expectations, the biggest 250 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: media market in the country, and everyone watching you to 251 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: see if you're gonna crumble or if you're gonna write 252 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: to the occasion. And I think that the way that 253 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: he's made up the intangibles allowed to do that. But 254 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: on the field it sounds cliche, but it factor. He 255 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: has it. Matt, you know the city very well. You're 256 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: often here doing stuff for Bleacher Report. What do you 257 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: think about his steadiness off the field? Now, he's kind 258 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: of a businessman in the sense that, hey, listen, he 259 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: wants to put the hard hat on and go to work. Yeah, 260 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: we'll take care of his media obligations, but he's not 261 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: really worried about too much what's happening externally. Finally, you're 262 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: have to worry about Sam Darnald getting caught up in 263 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: the light of New York. He's might gonna trying to 264 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: get a marketing deal or a fashion deal. He's gonna 265 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: be great for Jersey. He just wants to go to 266 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: work and care about football, and I think that is 267 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: one thing that I remember talking to you last year 268 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: about Mitch Drabinski was guys like that are perfect for 269 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: this situation that's really unique in New York because they're 270 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: not going to get sucked in by everything else. They're 271 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: gonna be workers and really just dedicated to football. And 272 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: I think he fits that moment really well. What did 273 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: you see the differences in him from two thousand sixteen 274 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: to two thousand and seventeen. He passed for more yards 275 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: last season as a junior. I know, the turnovers one up, 276 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: and some people express concerns about that as well, but 277 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: he's working with some different personnel. Yeah, I think that's 278 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: a big parton and I think stats always need context, right, So, yeah, 279 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: he had a lot of turnovers last year, and I 280 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: think you can look at someone like Marcus Mariotta who 281 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: fumbled a decent amountain college and hasn't been a bumbler 282 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL, so you can obviously make corrections to 283 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: clean that up. And I know that's something he talked about, was, 284 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: you know, he needed to change some things with his 285 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: delivery so that he's not dropping the ball down so much. 286 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: And I'm a firm believer that a coach like j 287 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: Emmy Bates can really get in there and help clean 288 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: up some of the issues that that I saw on tape. 289 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: But it's not like you've got to reinvent the wheel here. 290 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he was highly successful at USC the last 291 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: two years, and I would say this year did so 292 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: with not a great supporting cast, especially at the wide 293 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: receiver position. He lost three starters on his offensive line 294 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: this year and he was a completely different team and 295 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: it showed up on tape of times, but he never complained. 296 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: I think he's just the ultimate leader in that he 297 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: just he worries about himself and he takes care of 298 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: his mistakes, and it's never anyone else's fold. That's Matt 299 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: Miller who calls home in the show Me state, of course, 300 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: that is Missouri, and he's saying that Mike mccagne has 301 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: showing a lot here in his fourththraft as New York 302 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: Chess general manager. Greg catching up with you is always Matt, 303 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: so Green says. Miller talked about Donald was the top 304 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: quarterback on his board, and he thinks that mccagnet's got 305 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: some good forts in surrounding him, because a lot of 306 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: people two thousand and fifteen talk about Leonard Williams falling 307 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: to the Jets at six. Then you have Jamal Adams 308 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: falling to the Jets at six in two thousands seventeen, 309 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: and then Mike mcagnant on March seventeenth moving up from 310 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: six to three in order to take as Sam Donald, 311 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 1: who most people on St. Patrick's Day, unless they were 312 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: having a couple adult beverages, didn't think he was gonna 313 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: be there at three. I think that what's most interesting 314 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: is that when the Jets made that move in March, 315 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: a lot of people around the league said, this is 316 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: an interesting trade because you don't really know who's gonna 317 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: be there at number three. And it was one of 318 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: the first trades that they could recall, where you make 319 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: a move at the time you did and you don't 320 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: really know who's gonna be there at the time. And 321 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: at that time everyone thought Sam Donald was gonna go 322 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: number one overall to the Browns. And then a week 323 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: or so later, the owner of the Browns is in 324 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: the stands of usc s Prota with Sam Donald's parents, 325 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: and then how it's funny how things fall work out, 326 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: because you could call it fortune, you could call it 327 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,479 Speaker 1: an educated guests, whatever you want to call it. The 328 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: fact of the matter is is that the Brown didn't 329 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: ended up taking Baker Mayfield. The Cagnet said he had 330 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: a good feeling that the Giants very much like say, 331 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley, and how could you not because he's a 332 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: tremendous talent. And then Sam Donald there for the Jets 333 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: at three for the taking. I feel like it was 334 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: a rather simple decision at that point. I thought it 335 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: was a lazy argument because a lot of people were 336 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: saying that just gonna move up to three, just three 337 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: selections in the first round, they're gonna give up a 338 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: trio of second round picks in the process, and potentially 339 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: they're gonna get the third quarterback on their draft board. 340 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: But with all that being said, you always had to 341 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: let it play out. And what mcagnan did was he 342 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: took away a lot of uncertainty because if you were 343 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: sitting there at six, who knows what would have happened. 344 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: That changes the dynamic completely for more quarterbacks. One in 345 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: the top ten on Thursday night, of course, Baker Makefield 346 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: goes one, Sam Donald goes three. The Bills traded up 347 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: to seven in order to get to Josh Allen. They 348 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: had conversations with the Denver Broncos. In fact, the parameters 349 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: of a deal were in place, but the Broncos said, 350 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: John I always said, oh no, no, rarely Chubb's on 351 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: the board, I'm not doing that trade. But the Bills 352 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: still got their guy who they've been linked to for 353 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: a long time. And then Arizona made the move up 354 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: in order to get to Josh Rosen. I thought Rosen 355 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: potentially might fall actually to Miami at eleven, and you 356 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: would have saw three a FC East teams. And now 357 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: we're getting all this talk about how the Patriots were 358 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: very interested in Baker Mayfield. Well know, we don't know 359 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: the Patriots tell you that unless Belichick tells you that. Yeah, 360 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: unless it comes right from Belichick and he's looking in 361 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: the camera and it's recorded, I'm not gonna believe it. 362 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: Because everybody was talking about all they're gonna package this, 363 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna move up, they definitely need a guy and 364 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: whatever and things like that. You don't know. The other 365 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: thing you don't know is you don't know the way 366 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: the Jet's board was stacked. People can't guess all they 367 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: want about it. But with all that being said, mccagnan 368 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: moved up in March and he got his guy in April. 369 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: He should be applauded for that. An aggressive move and 370 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: it paid off. Bottom line, it paid off. There was 371 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: great value there, no matter what the compensation he gave up. 372 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: And I will say this, I understand it from the 373 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: what the Colts did, Greens. When you look at what 374 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: the Colts did, I think that in a nice draft. 375 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 1: And this started with Quintin Nelson and number six overall 376 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: who everybody said it was the top offensive alignment and 377 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: the entire draft. The Colt again, this is a wind 378 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: wind deal and they're saying that he's gonna be healthy. 379 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: We were in Indianapolis. Everybody's saying, Chris Bellard told reporters 380 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: there that hey, listen, we're comforta well where he is. 381 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: And you don't make that deal unless you think Andrew 382 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: luck is coming back. It was a win win in March, 383 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: and it was a win win in April, and now 384 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: it's May, it's still a win win. But here's the thing, 385 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: here's another interesting nugge you talked about the potential of 386 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: three a f C East quarterbacks. Well, they're definitely two 387 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: with Sam Donald and Josh Allen, and they're extremely close. 388 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: They've trained together all off season with Jordan Palmer. They'll 389 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: be four ever lengthd and not. You're a great point there, 390 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: because Donald is gonna be linked to sin Juan Barkley, 391 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: no doubt about that. I mean, Barkley goes to and 392 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: then Donald goes three. But obviously the FC East connection 393 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: there with Slick and Sam and Josh Allen. Josh Allen 394 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: my had the biggest arm we've ever seen come out. Ever. 395 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, at least in my lifetime. Absolutely, of 396 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: course in your lifetime. Well, I'm just saying JaMarcus Russell 397 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: was close. I think did you see Jamanhall Adams sweet 398 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: the other day? I didn't tell fans about that. Yeah, 399 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: I think fans will like it. I didn't know if 400 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: I was gonna bring it up. I'd like you to 401 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: bring it up. It's a little salty. But to Jamal 402 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: Adams rivalry starting already. Someone tweeted video of Josh Allen 403 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: throwing an interception and said, oh boy, that Josh Allen 404 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: to Jamal Adams connection is gonna be real nice and 405 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams quote tweeted it and said, I can't wait 406 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: to catch some passes from one of my favorite qbs. 407 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: Here we go babying on social media. He really is something. 408 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: He's all in on social media. But you know, we've 409 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: we've talked about Sam Donald so much. Now I think 410 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: that we should listen to your interview when Sam toured 411 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: One Jets Drive as the first time as a jet. 412 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: Of course he was here on a Top thirty visit, 413 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: but let's listen in on what Sam told you about 414 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: the process and about what he expects to do in 415 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: the green and white. Sam, what was the thought process 416 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: when the car was rawn in here to One Jets 417 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: Drive today? See in the fields first, that's the first 418 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: thing you see rolling up. It's amazing, you know, I 419 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: just want to get out there and play, you know. 420 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: And then coming in here, meeting with Mr Johnson, meeting 421 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: with Coach Bowls was amazing. Actually got to see Leo 422 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,959 Speaker 1: and Claude Polone, my former teammates. So it's just been 423 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: amazing so far. And that's one thing that you keep 424 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: on reiterating that, Hey, listen, I talked to Jeremy Bates. 425 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: I love talking ball. You like not the camera's so much, 426 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: you'll do that, but you're here to be a football 427 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: player and you're eager to get started. Yeah. I mean 428 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: it's you know, I really want to get started. Um. 429 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: I think for me it's I know that the quarterback position, 430 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: you have to be available to the media, be able 431 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: to talk about certain things. But you know, down in 432 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: my core, I just really want to play football. That's 433 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: what I came here to do, and I'm just really 434 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: excited to get started. How much of a role did 435 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: your family play in all of this huge role? They've 436 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 1: always been there for me, um, no matter what. Same 437 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: with my best friends and my teammates and all my 438 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: coaches I've ever had. It's just it's amazing to kind 439 00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: of think about all those people that have been in 440 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: my life and be able to give them thanks throughout 441 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: this whole process, because I wouldn't be here without them. 442 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: What did you get specifically for him? While from your 443 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: dad and your older sister, they just they're really good 444 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: leaders for me. I think that's the biggest thing, is 445 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: just you know, teaching me how to work hard. Um. 446 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: The work ethic that all three of them have is amazing. 447 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: And you know what what my dad especially was able 448 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: to do with his life, you know, coming home after 449 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: work and wanting to take a nap on the couch, 450 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: me waking him up once I get home from school, 451 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: and wanting to go throw a football out in the 452 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: front yard or play hoops in the backyard. It was 453 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: just he was always willing to do those things, even 454 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: though he worked his butt off during the day. So 455 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: it's just learning from him and learning how to work hard. 456 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: Is is something that I really cherished. What have these 457 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: moments been like for you and your family? It's been amazing, 458 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: you know, It's it hasn't been anything short of that. 459 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: It's just very surreal and something that you know, I'm 460 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: gonna remember for a long time. But I understand, you know, 461 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: with the end of this chapter comes the next chapter, 462 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: and that's being a jet and um, see how many 463 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: ball games I can win? Why was this a good fit? 464 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: We talked about it last night. You said you talked 465 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: to your mom after your visit here to the Jetsy said, listen, 466 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: I got a real good feeling about it that I 467 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: might go to them at number three. Yeah, you know, 468 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: I've had a really good feeling, you know, depending on 469 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: what you know Cleveland and the Giants did. I knew 470 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: that if I was there at three, that I could 471 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: probably you know, go there, and I was very confident 472 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: and that I had a really great meeting with all 473 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: the coaches, front office, you know, I met some of 474 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: the players. It was amazing. So just getting to know everyone, Um, 475 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: I had a really good feeling afterwards. You had a 476 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: chance to experience Jets Nation already at the Dallas or airport. 477 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: See people recognized, Yeah, I don't know if you were 478 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: in your green tie already, but what did they say 479 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: to you? You know, they're just really excited, you know, 480 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: as any fan would be. But it's just it's amazing 481 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 1: to be able to embrace that and just say hi 482 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: to everyone, get to meet the fans, signed some autographs, 483 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: take some pictures. My whole time here, I'm just going 484 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: to continue to embrace everything, whether I'm a rookie or 485 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: whether I'm a tenthier vet. You know, I'm just gonna 486 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: always embrace the moment because that's really all I know 487 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: how to do. If you were able to watch yourself 488 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,479 Speaker 1: on tape and somebody said, hey, give me a scout 489 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: on that guy self, scout, what would you say as 490 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 1: far as what you bring on tape? Yeah, I think 491 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: I bring really good football instincts to the game and 492 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: confidence that you can see when I play, whether it's 493 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: fitting in the tight window. And yeah, it gets me 494 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: into trouble sometimes, but um, you know, I'm really confident 495 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: whenever I pull the trigger. And that's something that I'm 496 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: going to continue to do here and just continue to 497 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: be really confident with every decision that I make. And 498 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: last week, can you believe it's only a couple of 499 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: days away when you actually will be on these fields 500 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,479 Speaker 1: right here in Flora Park for rookie Minicamp. Yeah, it's amazing. 501 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: You know again, I can't wait to get on this 502 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: field and start practicing with all my teammates. Alrighty, So 503 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: we we broke down Sam Donald, we heard from him, 504 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: We heard from Matt Miller, we heard from Donald head 505 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: coach at USC Clay Helton. Let's look ahead now, Rookie 506 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: Minicamp is around the corner. Josh mccount is still the 507 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: starting quarterback of the New York Jets. Todd Bowles said 508 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: that it is McCown's job entering training camp. However, he 509 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: did say that with Donald, he's not gonna throw him 510 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: in there, but he's not gonna hold him back either. 511 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: No timetable bottom line, that's what you get from Todd Bowles. 512 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: If the guy is ready to play, or play he's 513 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: not ready to play, he won't play. I think that's 514 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: the proper approach. I don't think you set certain benchmarks 515 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: along the way. I'm sure you have some kind of 516 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: plan as far as what kind of erupts these guys 517 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: are gonna be given through our training camp and things 518 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 1: like that. But Todd Bowles is taking the right approach here. 519 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: That's the only approach you should have. And the other 520 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: thing is it's a great situation because Sam Donald was 521 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: asked about Josh McCown a couple of times. I asked 522 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: him about McCown. He said, guys amazing. And when he 523 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: was asked during his press conference about McCown, he said, listen, 524 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: Josh already texted me said whatever you need, I'm here 525 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: for you. What else can you ask for? Josh McGown 526 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: is a perfect guy to learn from, you know, and 527 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: he's just a great dude. Let alone, you know, throw 528 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: the stats out the window. Everything like that. He's just 529 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: a great guy that everyone likes to be around. Whether 530 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: you're a media member, a friend, a player, everyone seems 531 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: to like Josh McCown. And the big thing in social 532 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: media nowadays too, is to take a photo of your text, right, 533 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: bank a photo your text conversation and let the world 534 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: know about it. What's said about gres Josh McCown's daughter 535 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: did that, didn't she? Well, no, he didn't the conversation 536 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: he was having. Yeah, so so I apologize to Josh 537 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: McCown's daughter. That's well, well, well do you well what 538 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: she said was a little bit of a singer, She texted, 539 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: that's all right to do that, that's very so, oh 540 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: you're calling him all well he so if you if 541 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: you didn't see Josh McCown screenshot at a conversation between 542 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: himself and his daughter, his oldest daughter, and she said 543 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: something like, you do realize that he's you know, a 544 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: year younger than me, or you're older than me or 545 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: something something crazy, And then he he obviously felt a 546 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: little dated with that, but but you let the world 547 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: know about it. Hum, that's a way to people's hearts. 548 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: But I didn't know this was the thing. I'm starting 549 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: to see this. I'm starting to see this more and 550 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: more with people want to converse with on a daily basis. 551 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: Maybe that could be like your your mid season, your 552 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: midyear revolution is to start, is to start screenshotting funny 553 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: moments in your texts and hosting them on Twitter. Should 554 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: I do that? It depends how funny the moment is. 555 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: And you've got to make sure to crop the because 556 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: there could be some things in there that you don't 557 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: want out there right there. Yeah, it depends. Like no 558 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: one needs to know a grocery list. You know, it 559 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: could be a number of things. But you know, I'll 560 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: show you how to crop the photo. Hey, Josh wants 561 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: to be big in the texting because he texted Darble too. 562 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: But whatever you need. I mean, he's not ancient. No, 563 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: I didn't say that. I think he knows how to text, 564 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: Yes he does. He knows how to play some football too, 565 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: and some hoops. Yes, yes, the hoop video. But Tabows 566 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: was not that impressed. He knew he was athletic. We 567 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: talked to him about the owners meetings. He said it 568 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: didn't look like people were really playing too much defense. No, 569 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: but then when he threw down the Doug he said, Okay, 570 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: that was impressive. Yeah, well listen, McCown can bring it well. 571 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: Speaking of high school basketball, didn't Donald average. Donald was 572 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: a high school point guard, which is where his vision 573 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: and he also played linebacker. He likes contact, He likes Yes, 574 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: I do because because I think it's even though I 575 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: grew up in the East Coast, I don't like it 576 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: when people said, oh, who's from southern California might be 577 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: a little bit soft. The sun got this guy a 578 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: little bit. This guy, there's nothing that is soft about him. Again, 579 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: blue collar family, and this is a guy who does 580 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: nothing but working. Like I said before, look at what 581 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: his parents brought to the table and their occupation and 582 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: the way how authentic this kid is in genuine and 583 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: sincere and his approach when you talked to him, he says, 584 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: I can't wait to get on the field. I love 585 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: talking ball with people who know ball. Sam Donald, New 586 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: York Jet. How do you like that? Jets Nation. I'll 587 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: pause for a response, won't hear it because you can't speak. 588 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: Maybe they'll send a text message with the screenshot it. 589 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: They'll send it into us, and that's how we close 590 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: out this episode on the official Jets podcast. That's all. 591 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: We have Ethan Greenberg and Eric Allen again in studio. 592 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: Next up on the pod, we're breaking down rounds two 593 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: through seven. Stay tuned.