Speaker 1: In today's episode of The Command Center Podcast, we talk
Speaker 1: about the biggest hit we took in our career and Fred,
Speaker 1: you played against some good football players. There's indeed, we
Speaker 1: got the Jets preview. Will Aaron Rodgers play? Will he won't?
Speaker 1: He will find out? Stay tuned we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: We got we got Commanders Advantages Christmas edition. It is
Speaker 1: always a lot of fun. Who's Rudolf the head Elf,
Speaker 1: Frosty the Snowman, and Santa himself the man in the
Speaker 1: big red suit. And then we got Christmas Movie draft.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of controversy here, guys. Is this a
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Speaker 2: That's right home.
Speaker 1: Welcome into the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here
Speaker 1: with Santana Moss and bred Smoot and we were having
Speaker 1: an interesting conversation right before the show started. Toughest running
Speaker 1: back you ever had a tackle from this?
Speaker 3: Adrian Peterson a monster had a gallop to him. I
Speaker 3: always goes got to say, Brandon Jacobs, which a monster
Speaker 3: to bring down?
Speaker 1: I wonder if anybody were i'mber see that is like still,
Speaker 1: I mean it's sure the old head Zo, but like
Speaker 1: the young.
Speaker 4: Like you got it. His son is like eighth grade.
Speaker 5: These young kids don't know nobody about it. They don't
Speaker 5: know nothing about Brandon Jacobs.
Speaker 1: But he was he was too.
Speaker 3: Sixty five two eighty three. He ballooned three hundred in
Speaker 3: the winter.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying like he was.
Speaker 2: Out with all the rings before the guy with the rings.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm trying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, most definitely because.
Speaker 2: He was making us disciplined. That was hurting people. No, no,
Speaker 2: he was.
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna tell you another was Jerome Betties. You
Speaker 3: told this because his body was so bad.
Speaker 6: Because you know most anthletes they put together tight waist,
Speaker 6: just built and Jerome just walking that thing like he
Speaker 6: just left McDonald because he was built so bad.
Speaker 4: He was built like Jason approducer.
Speaker 1: And he was built why Jason that straight right now?
Speaker 2: So it was nowhere to grab it.
Speaker 3: Like you couldn't grab his waistline because he had no waistline.
Speaker 3: You couldn't grab his leg like it was just nothing there.
Speaker 3: One play he ran me over. I started only on
Speaker 3: the ground.
Speaker 2: He picked me up and ringing.
Speaker 4: Me over again.
Speaker 5: No, No, he looks he looks good now like he
Speaker 5: was like you know, running backs go one way out
Speaker 5: of other.
Speaker 2: He the running backs get.
Speaker 1: Real fat, dude, Because I like, I went to college
Speaker 1: with re Shows Drew bound some Reshows Drew.
Speaker 2: I would never see him that. I didn't think he'd
Speaker 2: beat this.
Speaker 1: So let me tell you some Drew in college. Wait
Speaker 1: two o five and he's like five six, But I'm
Speaker 1: talking this dude looks like a body builder. Like he
Speaker 1: takes his shirt off, abs his he had to get
Speaker 1: special pants to fit his thighs, and so he went
Speaker 1: to he went to Jacksonville his rookie year. Comes back.
Speaker 1: This dude's two fifteen and even more like rocked up.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, like, he's like, what were you doing?
Speaker 1: He's like, I just went to McDonald's like every day.
Speaker 1: Three three, three squares, And I was like, some people
Speaker 1: just got the genetics for it, you know with a chick.
Speaker 1: But right now three did you did you ever have
Speaker 1: to tackle him?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: Had you know what got mad at me?
Speaker 3: We played him in the preseason tellor and you know
Speaker 3: we get our quarter in played my last last game
Speaker 3: of the last game. So he comes out and they
Speaker 3: tossed him a ball and I cut it lun more
Speaker 3: lowho the ground, so he gets uping what you doing.
Speaker 2: It's the preseason, dude, It's only one way to keep
Speaker 2: your job for me to do my job.
Speaker 4: So we got into it that whole year that we
Speaker 4: end up running TV in the off season.
Speaker 5: Like man, I apologize, but I think he played him
Speaker 5: that year two in the regular season.
Speaker 2: But he didn't even he didn't play the first couple of.
Speaker 1: Games in that season. Oh really, yeah, because you got
Speaker 1: a star.
Speaker 4: No, I got him right on the side of his knee.
Speaker 4: I apologize.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he was pretty upset about that. Did uh?
Speaker 1: And then did you ever like tackle like Mike All
Speaker 1: Star anymore? Oh?
Speaker 3: Yes, Mike Allstar? Did my homeboy Shun springs so bad?
Speaker 3: Like Mike all Start, ran Shun over so bad. He
Speaker 3: knocked him to nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 4: He ran him over so bad. I said, I was like,
Speaker 4: please get up.
Speaker 3: It was one of those like it's on Mike Stock,
Speaker 3: I mean All Stars like highlight Man. Because Sean went
Speaker 3: into the hole. They ran like a power bob.
Speaker 4: But they were so slow too. It was so like.
Speaker 2: I remember vividly because.
Speaker 4: I'm on all the side, like no watch out.
Speaker 2: I was like, if you going in that hole.
Speaker 5: You better meet, you better be your fee, better be
Speaker 5: off the ground. And you going in with a with
Speaker 5: a with a with an arm club or a shoulder.
Speaker 5: And he went in that thing and Lord won me
Speaker 5: and tried to catch you.
Speaker 2: Go, oh my god, Lord, have mercy.
Speaker 4: Listen.
Speaker 3: It was running back that was. That was the generation
Speaker 3: of running backs, just like a Fred Taylor. They much
Speaker 3: love as most people.
Speaker 2: Just hard to hit.
Speaker 3: Then you'll come up and I got to play t kid,
Speaker 3: and then I had to play Emmitt Smith.
Speaker 1: Then you have to play some dude.
Speaker 4: I do believe me.
Speaker 3: And Towner's generation we maybe made it into the golden
Speaker 3: age of the NFL because we played. I got to
Speaker 3: play against the bench wide receiver they would do it
Speaker 3: in Jerry Rice. And then I'm also got to play
Speaker 3: with the new school guys, with the Calvin Johnson's world
Speaker 3: and all this. So I think it's a golden age.
Speaker 3: Think about it.
Speaker 4: I played against the best wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Are you watching Jason's lasting over there? Because run over
Speaker 1: the best.
Speaker 4: Receive all time.
Speaker 3: I played against Tom Brady, the best quarterback all time,
Speaker 3: Barry Sanders the best running back of all time, so
Speaker 3: hey grunk, the best tight end of all time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, then you got Calvin Johnson. True, yes, it's so clean.
Speaker 2: It was like, why was you why did you come in?
Speaker 4: First of all, he needs to keep going.
Speaker 1: You need to keep going into the But it's like
Speaker 1: it's sometimes you'll see one of those hits where it's
Speaker 1: just like the running back doesn't even break stride, yes,
Speaker 1: and you're just like, what was the defensive player doing
Speaker 1: right there?
Speaker 2: Just trying to like to even go with that side
Speaker 2: of your body.
Speaker 1: He went down.
Speaker 2: See perfectly, I just drapped. I knew what I was
Speaker 2: talking about.
Speaker 1: So where'd you find this, Jason? You just googled sewn
Speaker 1: springs getting smoked or what.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Mike All starts throwing springs. It's the first one
Speaker 7: that comes back.
Speaker 2: So yeah, check that out. Listen, man, what is that
Speaker 2: playoff game we played them to play?
Speaker 4: That was the first game, the first one you played
Speaker 4: them before that?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, it.
Speaker 1: Was so many bags and even you're talking about the
Speaker 1: receivers and yeah, man, you play against ley Own.
Speaker 5: You played against the top three weeks, even though you
Speaker 5: played top four five because you want to. You played
Speaker 5: against Jared, played against Randy, You played off t ol
Speaker 5: against Marmy had played against mostly.
Speaker 3: I got II, Brucevitorio, you play got mostly everybody you
Speaker 3: could possibly play against in the generation.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw Yeah, I'll look at that. I was
Speaker 1: just like, come on, so I got We keep this short,
Speaker 1: but we talked about running backs. Was there a dB
Speaker 1: or a linebacker that they give you some smoke that
Speaker 1: you like, Oh, I don't like that.
Speaker 5: Like like hard head drive dalkers, No, so bron dalks.
Speaker 5: I just I'm so fast, bro.
Speaker 1: Like I'm not saying it, just to say it.
Speaker 5: Like when he did hit me, he got up and
Speaker 5: said this little thing. I'm like, okay, like that's what
Speaker 5: they were talking about. But the only person I got
Speaker 5: hit by like that could have could have like honestly
Speaker 5: took me out with two people, Cam Chancellor and Ray Lewis.
Speaker 2: And when Ray hit me, he was mad and I
Speaker 2: ain't go down. Caam I did. I did the damn scorpion,
Speaker 2: did you?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 5: I was like so like all the way back, like
Speaker 5: I went back with it. That was the first game
Speaker 5: back after my broke hand in.
Speaker 2: Two thousand eleven, when we went out to Seattle.
Speaker 5: Then when I was going to be fighting Sherman, that
Speaker 5: ya going back and forth. Then when the ball I
Speaker 5: ran the corner oute I forgot. I forgot the concept
Speaker 5: I was. I was in the slot.
Speaker 2: I ran the corner and the ball was thrown.
Speaker 5: I turned and it was behind and I just see
Speaker 5: Cam Chancellor face mask and planted into my face and
Speaker 5: like it made me mad because I'm like, here, I
Speaker 5: am trying to reach back for a ball.
Speaker 2: Well, normally I usually just stop him by the way
Speaker 2: I was trying to.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm just getting this the first game back,
Speaker 5: so my body, my everything is kind of off.
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I'm just out here.
Speaker 5: I'm a couple of pounds heavier too, because you know,
Speaker 5: I was already heavy then. And then I set out
Speaker 5: for four weeks. Bro, And I tell you I heard
Speaker 5: the Scorpion people. I saw it on America's Funny video.
Speaker 5: And then people be skateboarding, they falling.
Speaker 2: I went back.
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine that.
Speaker 2: Imagine instantly yeah.
Speaker 1: And your back.
Speaker 2: I'm like okay, and my dieing when my head ever
Speaker 2: hitting the ground.
Speaker 3: And then my feet touched in my head, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm like, oh, I get up.
Speaker 2: And Cam just in there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was so bad.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, you know, the first thing I said
Speaker 2: for that one nothing, And here.
Speaker 1: I gotta go to.
Speaker 2: Everybody talking to me.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm like, boy, I don't know tap out
Speaker 5: right now, I'm gonna keep playing.
Speaker 2: I kept playing, but boy, I understand what about you?
Speaker 4: Who hot liddies?
Speaker 1: So I got I've been hit by cam Chancer. I
Speaker 1: got hit by Ray Lewis and I'm like a big guy,
Speaker 1: so like it hurt, but it wasn't like nothing crazy.
Speaker 1: The one of the the hardest one is I got
Speaker 1: I told you then in my face mask on a block,
Speaker 1: I told you that story.
Speaker 4: Well you still so.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I was blocking this guy named uh Waddle
Speaker 1: and his whole technique was like I'm gonna jump up
Speaker 1: with two feet and then like take the top of
Speaker 1: my head and jump into your face like Eric Eric Waddle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is that his name?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no no, no, it's not Eric Waddle,
Speaker 1: He's Walden Is his name Eric Waldenbacker. Yeah? And so
Speaker 1: I remember coming out of the game and like like
Speaker 1: you know, like you get used to your face mask, right,
Speaker 1: and I had a big old face mask, and so
Speaker 1: it was hard to dat that sucker, and I was like,
Speaker 1: why is this like? And I thought it was scrat
Speaker 1: and he basically just from setting edges. You dead in
Speaker 1: my face mask. I came out the game and I
Speaker 1: had to get him change my face mask out.
Speaker 4: You ain't break your nose at because you know you
Speaker 4: broke your nose like.
Speaker 1: No, no, but that was the game. I almost kind
Speaker 1: of fight with them. It was I wouldn't I went
Speaker 1: to tottoe with that guy.
Speaker 2: He actually pushed your button. You ain't like that? Yeah,
Speaker 2: then my face man that you can keep punking me over.
Speaker 1: Because because you know, this is a funny story when
Speaker 1: it when you did a face mask, it takes to
Speaker 1: to tangle tango, you know what I'm saying. So he's
Speaker 1: got he's got to bring it and I got to
Speaker 1: bring it. And I've done it twice in my career,
Speaker 1: and so you really got to make sure your mouth
Speaker 1: piece is in and probably lost a couple of brain
Speaker 1: cells doing that.
Speaker 3: But you know, no kitch where you're going full kitch
Speaker 3: and somebody just take Carolina.
Speaker 1: I got smoked. So like Robert Griffin when we're playing
Speaker 1: Carolina after the by right before the bye in twenty twelve.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean twelve.
Speaker 1: Went across the middle. I didn't even know who this
Speaker 1: dude was. And he put me out there like the
Speaker 1: bender on a seam. He put me out, bro. Like
Speaker 1: it was like I knew I was gonna get smoked
Speaker 1: because I was fully extended, and he came and right
Speaker 1: in my stomach his helmet well boom, like you know
Speaker 1: that one where like all the windows out of you.
Speaker 1: I remember hit me so hard. I caught it and
Speaker 1: I was on the ground and I was like I
Speaker 1: couldn't talk, but I was just like I'm down, you know,
Speaker 1: Like I was like, I'm down, and I got up
Speaker 1: and I walked off, but I couldn't breathe like like
Speaker 1: you know, like had no air in my lungs because
Speaker 1: he you know, like Robert would do.
Speaker 5: The only other town I had the brain is up
Speaker 5: because it is it. I'm one of those guys. I
Speaker 5: care less.
Speaker 2: Man. You caught me, you quit me, Bro.
Speaker 5: It's funny to me because it was funny dead too,
Speaker 5: because I'm like, out of all games, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 5: So I'm in a Pro Bowl bro, only Bro, No,
Speaker 5: I'm on punt return, you know better but guess what
Speaker 5: in the Pro Bowl, You're like, boy, by getting one,
Speaker 5: I'm gone, yeah, I'm out. I don't hit the outside,
Speaker 5: and all I see, I got a big dog, I
Speaker 5: got a big new blocking So I'm like, oh man,
Speaker 5: I'm finna go. And I took that like you know
Speaker 5: how like when you say, all right, I'm not I
Speaker 5: don't care about.
Speaker 2: Their angles because I'm catch me.
Speaker 5: Wrong for the world right now, and I want to
Speaker 5: just do this like I'm finna pass the I'm gonna
Speaker 5: pass my line making I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm fina just go hit run around him.
Speaker 5: I did this, and when I got ready to like
Speaker 5: take that next step, it was like a.
Speaker 2: Sorry really boom, and I'm on the ground. I'm knocked out,
Speaker 2: but I'm I hear everybody, and I'm.
Speaker 5: Reaching for the ball because i know I'm at the bar,
Speaker 5: so I'm like, hey, hey, so so they like t
Speaker 5: get the bos So everybody like get the ball, get
Speaker 5: the ball in the ball. So I'm like, so now
Speaker 5: it gets up, you know that going to show you
Speaker 5: I done been hit like that before. I'm like, damn, boy,
Speaker 5: you see that he knocked meeting And I kept saying
Speaker 5: it and Chad like, man, I'm miked up, and then
Speaker 5: I got some money.
Speaker 2: Guy, I'm miked up. Man, can't talk like that. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 2: he's not in the pro bo saying this in the probole.
Speaker 1: That's how it was so funny.
Speaker 4: It was so crazy.
Speaker 2: Like I thought about it.
Speaker 5: On the side, I stayed, I said, it ain't gonna
Speaker 5: put me back out there. Man, people getting hit like
Speaker 5: this in the Pro Bowl. But it's late in the game. Yeah,
Speaker 5: the game already probably almost over. And then I went
Speaker 5: back out there a couple of players and I told
Speaker 5: because Steve want coming out, Steve like, man, I'm finna
Speaker 5: get this. I'm gonna win the MVP. And I'm like, bro,
Speaker 5: it ain't that still, I'm gonna get out. What the
Speaker 5: guy name is? I can't think of his name right now.
Speaker 5: From from Arizona with the Dreads, Larry's for sure, Larry, Larry.
Speaker 5: Larry spant to go in for Steve at X and
Speaker 5: Steve want letting to me. I said, Larry, you're going
Speaker 5: for me?
Speaker 2: Man, I'm straight, I ain't going.
Speaker 5: No movement I had showing his career from l I
Speaker 5: tell you, it was like a torpedo, like he hit
Speaker 5: me so hard and I didn't see it coming, like
Speaker 5: I was too busy, like I'm I'm gonna jump this
Speaker 5: and it's just and I was boone when I just
Speaker 5: went on the sideline like they were like, tell you
Speaker 5: all right, I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, boy, I got not. I said, boy, that gonna
Speaker 2: be on with that, gonna be on the dog on
Speaker 2: his lady.
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Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's so important to remember,
Speaker 1: like everyone gets got you know how.
Speaker 2: Like NFL will humble you. I was a football player.
Speaker 5: If you don't get hit once or twice in your life,
Speaker 5: that's the crazy part about it. And I'm proud to
Speaker 5: say that because being a receiver, I would expect.
Speaker 2: More of those.
Speaker 5: I'm glad that, like I'm gonna have to use fred uh.
Speaker 5: Glad that the quarterbacks I had, even though a lot
Speaker 5: of them went all that, they didn't get me.
Speaker 3: He took a leak every game I have played with
Speaker 3: Himnie's he was one of them.
Speaker 2: He was just stayed in bad.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you gotta like be like, the more
Speaker 1: you watch football, the more you realize a receiver can
Speaker 1: help themselves out a little bit a little and there's
Speaker 1: sometimes you can, but a lot of times if you
Speaker 1: just position yourself on the right way.
Speaker 5: Like I'm I'm big on watching guys running with the
Speaker 5: football and I'm like, okay, you know when to stop,
Speaker 5: Like I'm not trying to break three tackles. If I
Speaker 5: broke that one, Okay, when I get a guy on
Speaker 5: my back, I'm gonna let my legs go numb because
Speaker 5: that's when you tear stuff, you know, when you pull stuff.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean I watched the game nine. I
Speaker 5: be looking at injuries more. I look at guys, you know,
Speaker 5: making good play.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I hate that hurt. Yeah he got hurt.
Speaker 5: How you saw him? Like, bro, I know, I know that.
Speaker 5: I know the way that guy came down on his leg.
Speaker 5: He's injured. It's no way he coming up and he's
Speaker 5: gonna walk regular.
Speaker 1: You know, ask you like where the hardest hits I took,
Speaker 1: And a lot of them were like on a wedge
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. You know. Teams made me think
Speaker 1: of it, like after the kickoff thing, and I was like.
Speaker 2: That was I took one.
Speaker 4: That's why it's out.
Speaker 2: To a guy.
Speaker 5: My first year kickoff return, did you you recover the kicker?
Speaker 5: So I returning kiss when I first got in the league.
Speaker 5: You know, I was a pump returning slash kick return.
Speaker 5: So man, I got a pull. A quad just came
Speaker 5: off my knee. For being in being in the dog
Speaker 5: on thing all year my rookie season. I pulled my
Speaker 5: aquad the second game. I'm playing that week, going into
Speaker 5: the second game, but you know, I'm not gonna I'm
Speaker 5: not gonna tell them. I told the people what I
Speaker 5: need to tell, so they had me taped up. But
Speaker 5: I only got four games after the season. I missed
Speaker 5: the whole season already. So I'm in the play and
Speaker 5: I'm in Oakland. They kicked me a ball and it's crazy.
Speaker 5: The guy who I ran into was one of my
Speaker 5: ex teammates in Miami, Andre Fletcher.
Speaker 2: I get the ball in mondre No. I'm a slasher.
Speaker 2: I run the dog on block over and him and
Speaker 2: I can't run. I'm just gonna go and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take it to them for they take.
Speaker 1: It to me.
Speaker 5: I ran straight and boom, I'm telling them about what
Speaker 5: you're doing that.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't run, So I'm just I can't stop.
Speaker 1: Oh goodness. But yeah, so we should I think it
Speaker 1: should be a segment. We'll have to think of other
Speaker 1: things we can talk about, all right, So right now
Speaker 1: we're going to preview the New York Giants game and
Speaker 1: jet New York Christian in New York. In New York,
Speaker 1: that's right, and we're filming. We're recording this on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: so things can change. And our producer wants to talk
Speaker 1: about the likelihood of Aaron Rodgers playing in this game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like negative, Yeah, I don't think he's all.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've talked to multiple physical therapists about this,
Speaker 1: like multiple and they're like, if he plays, he is
Speaker 1: out of his mind. So I think there's enough of that.
Speaker 4: But we will be at the game and maybe Taylor
Speaker 4: Swift will.
Speaker 2: Be there too. Who knows, why would Taylor Swift be there?
Speaker 4: Well, this seems to be the only thing to report it.
Speaker 1: In the game, So I think the main thing let's
Speaker 1: talk about with this with the Jets, seamons or offense
Speaker 1: is bad. Like we get a report from PFF on
Speaker 1: the iPad that we get and I went down there
Speaker 1: and I've never seen a category for an offense where
Speaker 1: it's thirty two in n exposive plays, thirty two in touchdowns,
Speaker 1: thirty two in first downs. They are the they're historically
Speaker 1: bad offensive.
Speaker 4: Is this how much this is na?
Speaker 1: Heck? I think I would think a lot. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're the I mean again, Zach Wilson's your quarterback. And
Speaker 1: when you watch Jack Wilson playing quarterback, he's not doing
Speaker 1: a good job. Like he had a good game two
Speaker 1: weeks ago where he looked like a guy. You're like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: maybe he's turning in a corner whatever, but he just
Speaker 1: doesn't see the field. Well, he's out of time, he's
Speaker 1: out of rhythm. Their offensive line is playing very poorly.
Speaker 1: They don't do a lot to elevate them. So I
Speaker 1: do think Nathaniel Hackett has some responsibility. He's the offensive
Speaker 1: coordinary to his product. But it's also you've got Zach
Speaker 1: Wilson playing quarterback and then whoever the third string guys
Speaker 1: Trevor city Simeon so very very bad offensively, but defensively,
Speaker 1: them boys.
Speaker 4: Oh they could play.
Speaker 3: They got the Williams brothers, all right, they playing well South.
Speaker 3: They got some of the best dbs. They got some
Speaker 3: of the best dbs. So you're gonna have to You
Speaker 3: won't just walk into New York and beat these guys.
Speaker 3: I think they just showed a couple of teams and
Speaker 3: meet some good teams. Anyway, Yes, they got deficiencies on allfense,
Speaker 3: but you know, if you can stop a team from scoring.
Speaker 2: You got a chance to win any game that you're
Speaker 2: playing in percent.
Speaker 1: And they're they're like the classic example of like defense defense,
Speaker 1: like keeping them in games and winning games for them,
Speaker 1: like they don't do like they scored zero points against Miami,
Speaker 1: and Miami is a good defense. But like it's they
Speaker 1: beat Houston thirty to six of like interceptions and stuff,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like they are they're they're
Speaker 1: just really effective and they play a lot of man coverage.
Speaker 1: You guys mentioned sast Garter. They've got some other good
Speaker 1: football players. They've got an excellent middle level of the
Speaker 1: defense or linebackers are I think the kind of heart
Speaker 1: and soul the defense, So I say this, but the
Speaker 1: secondary is good. Is the defensive line. Man Quinn Williams
Speaker 1: Bay defensive line. They've got a bunch of dudes who
Speaker 1: could they like a hockey rotation.
Speaker 4: Quin Williams looked like the big, nice teddy bear that
Speaker 4: you see until you turn until you turn that film on,
Speaker 4: til you get a man. He's a monster.
Speaker 2: He moves me and it scares me.
Speaker 3: We have been weak in the inside and the quickest
Speaker 3: way to get to a quarterback is a gap and
Speaker 3: they got everything they need in the A and N B.
Speaker 5: Hey, how is it as a corner man when you
Speaker 5: know you have a guy like Quent Williams and you
Speaker 5: have a couple of other guys with him, Well, how
Speaker 5: easy does that make your job?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 5: It's just like I'm watching sautsuse. Don't get me wrong,
Speaker 5: I didn't expect this guy to be that great. You
Speaker 5: see what I'm saying, great, not good? Like he was
Speaker 5: phenomenal last year his rookie year, and like this year
Speaker 5: kind of yeah, you know it's been here and there,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. But it's still like when
Speaker 5: you watch him, even without those guys pressure, he really
Speaker 5: plays like you want to see every dB who playing
Speaker 5: play you.
Speaker 2: Know the thing.
Speaker 3: He do good job, but he marries his priss coverage
Speaker 3: to their rush. He understands down in distance, he understands
Speaker 3: how people gonna try to attack him.
Speaker 4: And I could tell you.
Speaker 3: He's a he's a film here got to be Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's a film head. But if I got a D
Speaker 3: line like that, backpeling is out of my is out
Speaker 3: of my repertoire. I'm not backing up because I know
Speaker 3: your quarterback got to get the ball out of his head.
Speaker 4: So what are you gonna beat me on a slint?
Speaker 4: I go, it's me only two options.
Speaker 1: It's interesting though, because like when you like, that's what
Speaker 1: I was expecting to, it's like, Oh, this defensive line
Speaker 1: is going to eat because they got some players. You
Speaker 1: got the they got Williams, they got Johnson from Florida State,
Speaker 1: and who was a top ten pick or not talked
Speaker 1: to a first round draft pick last year. They've got
Speaker 1: Bryce Huff who's excellent and pass rushing. They got Michael
Speaker 1: Clemens number seventy two, who's like this huge, hulking defensive
Speaker 1: vend who just compresses the hell out of pockets.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So they've got a bunch of guys who can rush
Speaker 1: the passer. But when you watch it, to me, it's
Speaker 1: the coverage elevating the rush. Oh you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like they're in tight coverage and so obviously Scardner, like
Speaker 1: Tennis talked about this, like he's so aggressive, he's so intuitive, like,
Speaker 1: and he does disrupt at the line of scrimmage enough.
Speaker 1: And then Reid is the other guy on the other
Speaker 1: side who does a great job in the back end
Speaker 1: of that group. And then the two linebackers. Mostly specifically,
Speaker 1: he's super instinctive.
Speaker 2: Mostly was in Baltimore, and so I think like.
Speaker 1: When you look at him, it feels like a little
Speaker 1: bit different version of the Dallas of Dallas' defense, right,
Speaker 1: instead of doing all this crazy line movement and stunts
Speaker 1: and Michael Parsons, It's like, we're gonna rush with these
Speaker 1: guys who are good pass rushers. We're gonna rush four
Speaker 1: on first and second down. We're gonna play a little
Speaker 1: bit of quarters, a little bit of three. And they
Speaker 1: play way more man than I thought, and they're really
Speaker 1: good at it, and they forced people and they force
Speaker 1: people in the mistakes.
Speaker 3: Basically, like you said, they are deep fens that can
Speaker 3: go win you games. They add the deep fens we
Speaker 3: thought we were gonna have in the year story.
Speaker 2: They deep.
Speaker 3: So this's why I say, Zach Wilson and not this
Speaker 3: is a dangerous team. If you think you just gonna
Speaker 3: walk in and get a victory, you're just not gonna
Speaker 3: do that.
Speaker 5: I think you gotta look at that first half of
Speaker 5: the season for them, when they was playing stood out
Speaker 5: to stir that quarterback, it was like turnovers.
Speaker 4: It was Jooglar.
Speaker 1: They beat Philly and the Bill, the defense beat.
Speaker 2: Them exactly, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So it's like when you look at that, the first
Speaker 5: thing you think about, like, Hi, you know, we can
Speaker 5: sit here and say what we want to say. But
Speaker 5: if you're gonna if they're gonna turn our field on
Speaker 5: offensive and say, where can we attack these guys to
Speaker 5: slow them down or make them you know, you know,
Speaker 5: set do to some of the things we've seen them
Speaker 5: do already this year, turnovers in sacks, see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So, if you have a defense that's.
Speaker 5: Already great on the outside, great in the inside, when
Speaker 5: it comes to the pressure.
Speaker 1: And they're they're playing together as a group, us how.
Speaker 3: They scheme up against it, They're gonna look at us
Speaker 3: and say, we're gonna stop the run and make them
Speaker 3: want we want them.
Speaker 4: They won't us throw the ball. They want us to
Speaker 4: be because the more we pay, the more turnovers we
Speaker 4: we we it.
Speaker 3: Happens they are turnover driven defense. To get the ball back,
Speaker 3: they're going to say, we're gonna put one more man
Speaker 3: in the box and we're gonna dare Sam to push
Speaker 3: the ball down the field, and we want him in
Speaker 3: their eyes, they want him to pass the ball forty times.
Speaker 1: See like for I think we'll do that. I think
Speaker 1: that's what he'd be shown he wants to do. But
Speaker 1: the thing is like if I'm if I'm I'm playing
Speaker 1: coverage and just feeling like try go for it, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Because.
Speaker 2: Like the one thing, we don't have.
Speaker 4: Our receivers.
Speaker 3: Even though Terry is I look at him as a
Speaker 3: fast guy, he ain't super, he ain't scary fast. So
Speaker 3: we don't have anybody that the corner is gonna say,
Speaker 3: you know what, I might need a little help with this.
Speaker 5: We do that, and I think we're starting to use
Speaker 5: him a little more Curtis ever since Curtzy came out
Speaker 5: off that injury.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been on a tear so.
Speaker 5: So I think that's the that's work right now, That's
Speaker 5: what we need to start leaning to these next few weeks.
Speaker 2: I won't be surprised.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say that last week we had we
Speaker 5: had a segment where we was talking about on our
Speaker 5: you know, pregame show going into the game, who was surprised?
Speaker 5: We never got to it. Who wants you to be
Speaker 5: surprised about if they have a good game and I
Speaker 5: had him on my list, like I was gonna say Curtis,
Speaker 5: because I feel like he's always been that that that
Speaker 5: piece of the puzzle that we felt like that was
Speaker 5: he would fit good with this offense. But we was
Speaker 5: trying to do so much early and then of lately
Speaker 5: we've gotten to him and then he had a little
Speaker 5: setback where he was out for a game or two,
Speaker 5: and then he got right back in and then he
Speaker 5: had a honey yard game. He's sport a touchdown and
Speaker 5: then you saw two touchdowns from the other day. So
Speaker 5: he's that piece, man, He's that piece of And that's
Speaker 5: another thing too, talking about going forward. Man, I'm keeping
Speaker 5: that dude because he can do so much for you
Speaker 5: wide receiver. He can mix it up. He's That's what I.
Speaker 4: Always wanted to see him return because he's an X
Speaker 4: week and.
Speaker 2: We asked him about it and he said he just
Speaker 2: didn't do it enough.
Speaker 1: He said.
Speaker 5: I literally had me on the podcast Players Club and
Speaker 5: me and London asked him, like, hey, bro, check that out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, most definitely please do every week. Bro. We asked,
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, you should be able to return. He's
Speaker 2: like no, he's scared.
Speaker 5: He's like man, I did kick return, but I never
Speaker 5: did part So I did part return one time just
Speaker 5: to like do it when I was young.
Speaker 2: But yeah, he's like, nah, that's really But I was like, bro,
Speaker 2: you'll be good at if I say, if it fits
Speaker 2: the mode.
Speaker 5: And I told him, I said, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 5: something and you won't believe it. I said, I never
Speaker 5: did put returns. I was forced to do it in college,
Speaker 5: like I was forced to be in college. Yeah, I've
Speaker 5: never ever touched the part return in high school, never
Speaker 5: in college. Coach is like, hey, you're going back there.
Speaker 5: I was like, no, I'm straight like, no, I'm not
Speaker 5: asking you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're going back.
Speaker 4: You're going back there.
Speaker 5: And so I'm like, when you have a guy like him,
Speaker 5: you want somebody to force him in that position because
Speaker 5: he don't know what that could do for his career.
Speaker 3: That I'm saying, I want to coach the challenge here
Speaker 3: and say, dude, I need more from you, and I
Speaker 3: can't get more from you if you're not on special teams.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, So, I mean I think back to the Jets defense,
Speaker 1: there's it's gonna be it's gonna be a problem, right,
Speaker 1: Like they're just playing I don't think they They don't
Speaker 1: have the best secondary in the NFL. They don't have
Speaker 1: the best team line in the NFL. But they play
Speaker 1: to get really well together, and they make a lot
Speaker 1: of problems. And then on third down. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: this in the We talk about this on the film
Speaker 1: Breakdown in Command Center, our our flagship program. They do
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff on third down. They're bringing pressures,
Speaker 1: they're bringing all out, they're dropping guys out, they're bringing
Speaker 1: zone pressures, and you know, like we, for whatever reason
Speaker 1: this year, have had a hard time identifying that stuff
Speaker 1: and getting the ball out where it's supposed to go.
Speaker 1: So I think they present a lot of challenges real quick,
Speaker 1: because there's not a lot to talk about. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about the Jets offense real quick. Just you know, they've
Speaker 1: got a receiver he's really good, Garrett Wilson, and he
Speaker 1: makes explosive plays. Brees Hall is a bawler, can make
Speaker 1: explosive plays a change.
Speaker 2: I mean they got that, yeah, yeah, that he is explosive.
Speaker 3: And then one day I seen about Breese Hall coming
Speaker 3: out with the injury. He still ain't in what you
Speaker 3: call his bitch shape.
Speaker 2: He's been doing it doing the year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and so they got so obviously those are
Speaker 1: the two playmakers. They have a hard time with the
Speaker 1: quarterback getting the ball. Their offensive line has some names.
Speaker 1: Makai Beckton's playing better than he's played lake and Tomlinson
Speaker 1: is a guy they brought it in free agency, hasn't
Speaker 1: played up to the billing. Joe Tipman good center, right,
Speaker 1: but young, he's a rookie. And then they've got two
Speaker 1: guys who are banged up on the right side of
Speaker 1: the offensive line, and it's just been kind of a
Speaker 1: circular thing there. Conklin, he's a good little player, not
Speaker 1: super dynamic, But I think the reason I bring up
Speaker 1: the offensive line went through that. Obviously, when Elijah Varon
Speaker 1: Tucker and their starting groups out there, they're very, very talented.
Speaker 1: But that group's not out there right now. And so
Speaker 1: can our pass rush get right against an offense that
Speaker 1: holds the football not overly efficient on first down, they're
Speaker 1: gonna give you rush opportunities, which is something we've been
Speaker 1: calling for all year. It's going to be second and
Speaker 1: ten rush the passer, it's going to be third and
Speaker 1: ten rush the passer, and can we get pressure, can
Speaker 1: we be dynamic. Again, there are some players there, but
Speaker 1: I don't care how good you are. If I know
Speaker 1: that it's an obvious passing situ wuation, let's go hunt,
Speaker 1: let's go take advantage of of who's the quarterback again?
Speaker 1: Trevor Simmons, Trevor Trevor Simmons.
Speaker 2: Or thought Zach Wilson was he was?
Speaker 1: He was?
Speaker 2: He had a concussion, right.
Speaker 1: He got benched a couple of weeks ago, he started
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: Ago, came back and won a game, and then he can.
Speaker 1: Cook us so and again we record this on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: so we don't know what his status is. Usually the
Speaker 1: average return to return to play for concussions about fourteen days,
Speaker 1: which would put him the next week. But you know,
Speaker 1: crazier things you'll.
Speaker 5: Want to see more more than anything. I mean, you
Speaker 5: want to see exactly you want to see Trevor either one.
Speaker 1: I mean probably Trevor, Trevor Simon, Trevors Simon, Trevor Simeon,
Speaker 1: just because he's kind of.
Speaker 2: A dis Simmon was a little more better.
Speaker 5: I thought he was a slight agreement great up again,
Speaker 5: so I don't I don't know. I don't know either,
Speaker 5: So who was the guy last year when that was
Speaker 5: going going through he was he.
Speaker 8: Was Mike White, Hen Trevor, he was the third guy, right,
Speaker 8: It was that White and Sam right, yeah, and so
Speaker 8: White Mike White balled out.
Speaker 2: Last He's in Miami. The back and back up the
Speaker 2: two oh hes a backup of tur Yeah.
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Speaker 1: All right, So we got Commanders Advantages, which is always
Speaker 1: a fun segment to do, and we're gonna do it
Speaker 1: a little bit different today we've done in the past.
Speaker 1: All right, So we've got the Christmas edition. Obviously insert
Speaker 1: Christmas music here, and we're gonna do We got so Rudolph,
Speaker 1: who's gonna be the guiding light? Fred, you're gonna do
Speaker 1: that one? Okay, we can all comment, but friend's gonna
Speaker 1: do the main one. Okay, head out making the place man.
Speaker 1: Just get guys shield, Yes, Frosty, the Snowman gotta be cold.
Speaker 4: Come maybe a snowman.
Speaker 1: And then I get time. Whoa what is that? I
Speaker 1: don't get that.
Speaker 2: You know nothing.
Speaker 1: I don't know anything. I don't know. Let's just say,
Speaker 1: jess A wrap, I know what just cheated on. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying is I thought he might have
Speaker 1: done a Christmas song.
Speaker 4: No, this is his name, the storeman.
Speaker 1: Jesus, his name is the Snowman. I did not know,
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: The feeling. We were talking about baby something recreational and
Speaker 1: then Santa, who's gotta make the delivery? Yeah, bring the gifts,
Speaker 1: made the delivery. So we'll start off with Rudolph. Rudolph
Speaker 1: and this son of a gun over here, the.
Speaker 2: Red nose cornerback say, how guy like he has to be?
Speaker 2: He has to be the leader.
Speaker 3: We need Sam the red nose reindeer to get us
Speaker 3: through this storm.
Speaker 2: Win. And if we're gonna get through this storm, he's
Speaker 2: gonna have to light the.
Speaker 3: Room up like he gonna have to reinvigorate the fan base,
Speaker 3: because now you got the fan base fighting.
Speaker 2: Do we have the guy? Do we not have the guy?
Speaker 4: Do we have the guy?
Speaker 3: But if he Rudolph and he's gonna lead us through
Speaker 3: this storm, this is the perfect stage to do it.
Speaker 4: In New York Christmas Eve, make us believe again? Would
Speaker 4: you please do that?
Speaker 2: Mister Sam?
Speaker 1: How what do you think? Tennis? You like that one?
Speaker 2: I like it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I like it all right? So Tanna, you want
Speaker 1: to do the elf helf?
Speaker 2: Tell you I take it had elf.
Speaker 5: I want to lean defensively for us, but it's almost
Speaker 5: hard to pick somebody on the defense to be the
Speaker 5: head elf.
Speaker 1: So if I had to pick for this one, I
Speaker 1: would have said Cody Barton because Cody Barton has been
Speaker 1: getting everybody right. You can tell he's been studying that film.
Speaker 1: Like last week, we didn't talk about this in our
Speaker 1: review pod. He's like dropping under dig routes, he's forcing
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks to check it down. You can tell he's
Speaker 1: been studying film. They trying to get that screen out
Speaker 1: in the red zone. He's making the tackle, he's fitting
Speaker 1: runs right. He seemed like, since I get it, it
Speaker 1: kind of coincides with Ron in the play caller, So
Speaker 1: maybe Ron. But I think Cody's done a good job
Speaker 1: of kind of getting everybody on the same page. And
Speaker 1: you talk about we needed a communicator in the defense,
Speaker 1: and I feel like he's showing that he can be
Speaker 1: that guy. So I would say maybe him if you look.
Speaker 3: For somebody lost it, because I need him to be
Speaker 3: the hand because he going against him Bama, but the snowman.
Speaker 2: So you need more to just you need a lot
Speaker 2: of help like that too.
Speaker 5: I can blame both of those, but I think I
Speaker 5: will go with yeah, I mean, you took that one.
Speaker 2: Over, so yeah, stay with that.
Speaker 5: You want to go go Frost Snowman. Frostis snowman. What
Speaker 5: we know about frostis snowman cold? Who was he to Christmas?
Speaker 5: To everybody, to all us as as kids? Right when
Speaker 5: we want to we watched Frosty's Snowman. What did he
Speaker 5: do to some of us? He made me Crays a villain, bingo,
Speaker 5: you thought he was a villain.
Speaker 2: He really wanted he was a good guy.
Speaker 5: He was a good guy and Frost Snowman, I wanted
Speaker 5: him to say he made us emotionally, you know, I
Speaker 5: mean he made his emotionally.
Speaker 2: I mean because when when he melt it, we was like.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Christmas, he's gone, you know, like all you see
Speaker 9: is his nose and the left I feel like that's
Speaker 9: you know, Terry, Okay, Frosty the Snowman.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we are emotionally attaching to emotion.
Speaker 2: Attached him and at times he is a cold dude.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And he don't have to do it by no ra rad,
Speaker 2: He don't have to do it by being no guy
Speaker 2: in your face. He just does it. Yeah. And when
Speaker 2: I mean he does is he coming down with catches.
Speaker 5: That's fifty fifty man man catching fifty fifty balls since
Speaker 5: they named the fifty fifty ball back in the fifty Yeah.
Speaker 1: He ain't been around that long.
Speaker 2: He come down with it. He came out the womb
Speaker 2: catching fifty fifty balls.
Speaker 5: But the reason why I say he's frost with snow
Speaker 5: man to me because he's cold as ice. He's one
Speaker 5: of those guys, man, when you need the play to
Speaker 5: be made, he's the guy.
Speaker 2: He's the guy that's gonna go out there.
Speaker 5: And you know, we look at football players as these
Speaker 5: guys that's supposed to be mancho man, because that's how
Speaker 5: fans look at us. Oh he's they judges by a toughness,
Speaker 5: by how we look by our persona. And you look
Speaker 5: at Terry, Terry sometime wearing his little specks, he wearing
Speaker 5: his glasses. At times you're like, oh, he's a nerd.
Speaker 5: When he gets on that field, what he gets on
Speaker 5: that field, he's dark. So he's frosty snow mad at me,
Speaker 5: not because of how cold the years, but at times, yeah.
Speaker 2: When he's not there, you know he Oh, we're sad
Speaker 2: about that. Even he don't get one hundred yod he didn't.
Speaker 5: Win the game because you didn't allow Terry to be involved.
Speaker 5: Where was Terry? And we had a we had a
Speaker 5: sight Nhume this week, so he was back, Frosty was back.
Speaker 2: I agree with that.
Speaker 1: I like that, and I liked that we took a
Speaker 1: little at different angle on there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm feel me into y'all feeling over that, all right,
Speaker 5: and then we're all gonna do Santa Claus.
Speaker 1: We're all going to kind of pick our guy. Who's
Speaker 1: gonna be Santa Claus, the guy who's got to deliver
Speaker 1: the big fella.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we all agree with you. You ain't gotta say it.
Speaker 4: I know I'm going with the run pain.
Speaker 6: Oh, because like Santa Claus, and he comes bearing gills.
Speaker 3: So what I'm saying is the run pain. I think
Speaker 3: we're seeing him move him around that.
Speaker 1: I hope they do that more. They only did it
Speaker 1: one time in last game, but I hope that's not.
Speaker 4: I think it unlocked something.
Speaker 1: Think about it, think about it. Do it one time?
Speaker 1: He had one sack that.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say the run pain because you know what,
Speaker 3: I can see him putting pressure on hisself because he
Speaker 3: just got paid, like I want to.
Speaker 2: Live up to it.
Speaker 3: When he all he needed to do is just relax
Speaker 3: and go play his brand of football.
Speaker 4: He is the man.
Speaker 3: He cannot fit down, no chimneys, but he will knock
Speaker 3: on your front door.
Speaker 5: I tell you that it's crazy. You said, drum Paankers.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say. All the big guys up there on
Speaker 5: the d line, I oh, we haven't said much about
Speaker 5: these guys. But it was a siting for matthis this
Speaker 5: past weekend. He showed up big and some key runs.
Speaker 5: It was a sighting from Rich Ridgewick. Hold On now, say,
Speaker 5: doing our pregame show. We was in the middle of
Speaker 5: the pregame show and everybody's warming up, and I see
Speaker 5: a disgusted Ridgeway walking towards us with two trainers limping,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, damn, he just he just went down
Speaker 5: before the game started. When the game started, Rich, they
Speaker 5: said Ridgeway was on a tack. When I'm like, and
Speaker 5: I see he have two ankles taped up black tape,
Speaker 5: and I say he went in because he had white
Speaker 5: tape on when he went in went in. I said,
Speaker 5: this joke had just tape the ankles up and came
Speaker 5: out here and went to work. So all those guys
Speaker 5: up there cum bearing gifts, And I think this would
Speaker 5: be the fine time for our d line to get
Speaker 5: out there, what they say, wounded offensive of the New
Speaker 5: York Jets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think if you can find those matchups,
Speaker 1: that'd be great because we've all been wanting that, right
Speaker 1: and if they can deliver, man, that's gonna be a
Speaker 1: great Christmas present for everybody. For me, I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: our guy eb right, because he is I mean, he's
Speaker 1: the guy man, He's gonna give gifts, right, Yeah. Can
Speaker 1: we get the right protection for the offensive line? Can
Speaker 1: we get Sam in a good position where he likes
Speaker 1: the concept and read that? Give Give Sam that gift, right,
Speaker 1: Give Terry that gift of that deep ball, that fifty
Speaker 1: to fifty shot. Hey, we hat Curtis in that one
Speaker 1: on one matchup in the slot?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Can Jahan, you know, Chris, Chris Rodriguez, all these guys
Speaker 1: like he's the guy that makes that happen. Give those
Speaker 1: gifts out and if he does a good job of
Speaker 1: allocating those resources, they're gonna be in a pretty good spot.
Speaker 2: How did our max do this pass week?
Speaker 5: That's why we hadn't got on We didn't even look
Speaker 5: at the giftson was gonna get the ball more?
Speaker 2: Yeah he did.
Speaker 3: I thought Chris where Regus rgan pretty hard when he
Speaker 3: had a change.
Speaker 2: Think about it.
Speaker 3: He You always think he has more yaws than he
Speaker 3: hail because I think he runs so validly. He breaks
Speaker 3: so many tap like I thought he had sixty yards
Speaker 3: he only had thirty five.
Speaker 1: But I mean it was only on like how many
Speaker 1: carres like, Yeah, he's very efficient, yeah, and he's very physical.
Speaker 1: And the other guy that did a good job was
Speaker 1: Jonathan Williams.
Speaker 4: He always do a good job when he gets a change.
Speaker 1: Had some really good blitz pickups which was great to see.
Speaker 1: But I think one of the reasons Gibson didn't play
Speaker 1: much is he had a he missed the blitz blitz
Speaker 1: pick up. They led to a sack.
Speaker 2: So I think that, yeah, that'll get you on the bench.
Speaker 1: Yep. So but yeah, hopefully those guys get a bigger
Speaker 1: opportunity this week. All right, So now time for game predictions,
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Speaker 1: game predictions, Yeah, I know everyone's super excited this Tanna.
Speaker 1: You're so pumped. Look at how pumps you are.
Speaker 3: But this is also his two ex team. I mean,
Speaker 3: this is his two teams right here. This is the
Speaker 3: sat Tanna Bowl.
Speaker 2: Think about that, collaborate.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's my bowl, man, the Tanna Man. Boy, it's
Speaker 5: crazy because I'm going to be on the podcast this
Speaker 5: week later on with Lavernias and Wayne Quebec about the game,
Speaker 5: so I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 2: But then you, honestly, man, I mean this is crazy.
Speaker 5: I never would have thought it'd be a time where
Speaker 5: I'm sitting here talking about my two teams and both
Speaker 5: of us stink.
Speaker 2: So right now, we both sitting there and they're like, well,
Speaker 2: I hope I get a win. I know, I hope
Speaker 2: I get a win.
Speaker 5: I hope somebody and I'm hoping that we get to
Speaker 5: go back home, you know, with the victory.
Speaker 2: But I can't give you no points.
Speaker 5: Man. I suck at that. And I feel like every
Speaker 5: time I go out there and bite my tongue and
Speaker 5: say something I shouldn't say about this team.
Speaker 2: They embarrassed me.
Speaker 5: So I wanted to see a hard fart game on
Speaker 5: Christmas Eve. Give us something to be cheered, cheering nobody
Speaker 5: in the stands, and make the best team stand and win,
Speaker 5: I mean the best, the best team high and they
Speaker 5: say the whole Look, I.
Speaker 3: Want to open this teas they say forty five to zero.
Speaker 2: That's what I want for zero.
Speaker 4: I just like, this is what I want from this team.
Speaker 3: I want one game where the offense, the defense, and
Speaker 3: the special teams all show up the same day. That's
Speaker 3: all I'm asking. That's all I'm asking. Is it gonna
Speaker 3: be hard to score on this defense? Yes it is,
Speaker 3: but it's hard to score on every defense in the NFL.
Speaker 3: So go out there, play your games. Special teams, I
Speaker 3: hate to say. They then cut the cheese. Let's see,
Speaker 3: can you know? Special teams pick back up and get
Speaker 3: back on the good.
Speaker 2: Hold on, who's up? Who's next?
Speaker 1: I think you're signing someone they just signed that he's
Speaker 1: from the Patriots.
Speaker 2: I think patures all right, So we got lord.
Speaker 3: Have and defense. Make this offense look like who they
Speaker 3: really are. Like, do not let this offense.
Speaker 4: Am out here and get no, just get going on.
Speaker 3: You You're not make them look how they're supposed to
Speaker 3: look and go win there.
Speaker 5: So I promise you they're looking at some of the
Speaker 5: things and they saying, we're gonna get in these sets. Yes,
Speaker 5: we're gonna show these same motions. We're gonna do some
Speaker 5: of these same and we're gonna hope that it's gonna
Speaker 5: confuse him to the.
Speaker 3: Point we'll be running a wheel round this week, same as.
Speaker 2: Cooper Girl, they're gonna be doing. Did y'all not see
Speaker 2: the play now? We'll talk about it later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I agree with Fred. I think the
Speaker 1: defense is trending in the right direction, and that's been
Speaker 1: great because it's help with the evaluation. It's been great
Speaker 1: to see Cleek Hutson and Kwan Martin playing better ball.
Speaker 1: We mentioned Cody Barton briefly, like the defensive lines playing better.
Speaker 1: Cam made some plays and Percy, you know, seeing him flying.
Speaker 1: It's good to see that. Keep that going right offensively.
Speaker 1: I've really enjoyed watching Sam Hall this year, especially when
Speaker 1: he's playing good ball. I want to see him get
Speaker 1: back on track because if he gets back on track.
Speaker 1: I think we feel much better about the off season.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough this week, but they play a
Speaker 1: lot of man. You know what they're gonna be in.
Speaker 1: Let's beat that man, courage. Man. We got all these
Speaker 1: playmakers and they do rush the pastor world. But I
Speaker 1: think the offensive line for us, yeah, has been playing
Speaker 1: wal off to handle this scrip.
Speaker 2: I'm running slant goals.
Speaker 1: And get after that.
Speaker 2: Boy and something right now. If you're playing man on
Speaker 2: me right now, you gotta.
Speaker 3: Beets the type matchup that can't get at a South
Speaker 3: guardener because South he makes his money disrupting people with
Speaker 3: them long arms of his and making him run.
Speaker 4: Terry is very tough.
Speaker 2: I would you want to quick Terry gonna one.
Speaker 1: Step and Terry can go both those quarters.
Speaker 3: Terry is one of the receivers that he's hard for
Speaker 3: us to really study because he has no defined in failure.
Speaker 3: He has nothing and no define Like when I say
Speaker 3: Sat Tanner, you take speed.
Speaker 4: He don't have that. That makes you hard to check.
Speaker 4: So I think this is a good matchup that I
Speaker 4: want to see South Terry.
Speaker 2: So I want I won't. I want to be surprised
Speaker 2: if I see Johann Sitan.
Speaker 5: I just think going back to Jersey, you know he's
Speaker 5: he's he's born at When he gets quiet like this,
Speaker 5: it's almost like he's brewing for one of those games
Speaker 5: and hold them some attention. So I'm hoping that we
Speaker 5: can get a couple more his citis. But this is
Speaker 5: this goes back to what I tell you about how
Speaker 5: you and situations. Everybody's situation ain't always the same. Like
Speaker 5: you can look at what he did last year, like man, John,
Speaker 5: we just knew he was gonna come and get a
Speaker 5: thousand this shit, But now he had to deal with
Speaker 5: the simple fact of a new offense, a new quarterback,
Speaker 5: a quarterback that you know, still try trying to find him,
Speaker 5: him not being involved, not knowing how to.
Speaker 2: Overcome not being evolved.
Speaker 5: Still have to go out there and play it because
Speaker 5: when they come to you is when you least expected.
Speaker 5: We've seen games like that, so I'm sure he's learning
Speaker 5: a lot about this season. And like I said, I
Speaker 5: want to see him finished strong these next three games.
Speaker 2: I want to see a couple of sightings from him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be great. So again I think Sam Howe
Speaker 1: defense keep playing better, and like you said, get those
Speaker 1: special teams on the right track, be special all right,
Speaker 1: and so no prediction for me, but that's what I'm
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Speaker 1: excited for a right, you know what it is? Red
Speaker 1: You pay attention to the production.
Speaker 2: That was, Yes, that was okay?
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 4: This is the Christmas movie?
Speaker 2: And there we go?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Now, can I ask a question?
Speaker 3: Is in game a Christmas move and game? But Marvel
Speaker 3: it came out around Christmas?
Speaker 1: I know, but there's nothing Christmas in the.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, is die Hard is a Christmas movie?
Speaker 1: I know? And I think you're gonna go there with
Speaker 1: your first pick. All right, so Jason producer, Hello, welcome
Speaker 1: to the show. He's been sitting here the whole time.
Speaker 7: So end game is definitely not a Christmas But I
Speaker 7: will say Diehard is.
Speaker 1: Will we all vote on Diehards Christmas takes.
Speaker 7: Place deering, Christmas has Christmas themes, don't least in July,
Speaker 7: but who cares?
Speaker 1: Don't be lessened a bunch of Christmas movies right now.
Speaker 7: I'm just saying general games not but we can debate
Speaker 7: if some come up. But Diehard is definitely a Christmas right.
Speaker 1: I leave a comment. If you don't think Diards are
Speaker 1: Christmas movie. I personally think you're wrong, but leave a comment.
Speaker 7: It takes place during Christmas, and it has Christmas.
Speaker 1: Themes and there's Christmas music.
Speaker 4: Yes, what are we doing?
Speaker 1: Gifts?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hold on steal one of the all time
Speaker 3: bits I forgot.
Speaker 1: I'm really glad you brought that up. They were just ruining.
Speaker 2: That was gonna be one.
Speaker 7: All right, here we go. I'm gonna give you guys
Speaker 7: the order. It's gonna be random here. So Tanna is one,
Speaker 7: two three, I'm four.
Speaker 1: Are you're in a number generator?
Speaker 7: No, the first one first, one versus two. So Logan
Speaker 7: goes first. We're gonna do like a snake draft.
Speaker 1: So I go first.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you're gonna pick.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Then it's Tanna.
Speaker 7: Okay, and then Fred and then.
Speaker 2: Me for it was right man, Fred, He's always right.
Speaker 7: All right, we're gonna do a snake draft. You know,
Speaker 7: you know what a snake drafty.
Speaker 2: So you go through eleven of the top one hundred
Speaker 2: Christmas movies?
Speaker 1: Are you on the list right now? You get out
Speaker 1: of here with that?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: Christmas? Oh? Yeah, go first.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you go first and then goes through the order,
Speaker 7: and then you go time last. I'll go twice and
Speaker 7: I will go back now a right, so we're.
Speaker 1: Gonna pick, then we go back through the we go
Speaker 1: through the order backwards. Right in the state draft, it's like.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yep, so the ends will pick twice twice, three.
Speaker 1: Movies each, three movies each, movies each. All right, all right,
Speaker 1: so I started. I'm starting with Elf as the first.
Speaker 1: I love the first selection of this draft.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think that's self explanatory. I don't
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 5: Elf is like, so we just picked our home movies. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm going with a Christmas story.
Speaker 1: Oh I like it, like it, like it? Like?
Speaker 4: Is it me? I'm going home alone? I brought it in.
Speaker 1: That's a good one. One home alone one.
Speaker 7: The first one. Yeah, okay, uh, I get back to
Speaker 7: back here. Yes, I'm going to try and hit a
Speaker 7: couple of demographics. I'm gonna go die Hard and then, uh,
Speaker 7: the kid in me loves this one. I'm gonna go
Speaker 7: Muppet Christmas Carol.
Speaker 1: Dude, I was gonna pick that one. Are you serious?
Speaker 7: Muppet Christmas Carrol. That's an excellent one. You know when
Speaker 7: a movie starts out with the Muppets, they like don't
Speaker 7: say the names of like who the actor is? The
Speaker 7: boys they say the name of the muppet. So it's
Speaker 7: like Kermit fraud.
Speaker 1: I actually just watched that the other night with my kids.
Speaker 7: Yeah, fantastic.
Speaker 1: I gotta look up some Christmas movies.
Speaker 2: There you, fred.
Speaker 3: Ah then took my diehod he thene took my if.
Speaker 2: What about mm hmm, great question.
Speaker 4: I need to go home alone too.
Speaker 1: Oh I got one. Okay, good, I almost forgot about
Speaker 1: this one. Thank god for the Internet. See everybody looking like, no, okay, Fred,
Speaker 1: you've got the clock man.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's almost impossible to not look.
Speaker 5: There's somebody in your head, but you just don't know
Speaker 5: the names of.
Speaker 7: I'm sure we have fans like yelling at the radio.
Speaker 4: I totally understand. And it's me.
Speaker 3: I I like bad Santa.
Speaker 1: That is a good one. It's an excellent one. So
Speaker 1: who's up? Tennis?
Speaker 5: Up now?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Trading places?
Speaker 1: Trading places with Murphy. We're we're back the one that's
Speaker 1: one with the from the Ghostbusters, right.
Speaker 7: Right, You're up and you get to So this is
Speaker 7: gonna be your last two picks for flying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were ripping.
Speaker 5: Okay, right, I want to go for someone something that
Speaker 5: they didn't think was this Christmas movie, like I had
Speaker 5: to pull.
Speaker 1: Up that was good. That was good. So for me,
Speaker 1: uh National Lampoon's Christmas. I love that's an excellent.
Speaker 2: I love that this week.
Speaker 1: I love that's excellent. And then gosh, there's a couple
Speaker 1: of weak I can go kids movie here, but I
Speaker 1: don't think I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 4: Oh I got one, y'all. I got one gonna really
Speaker 4: make y'all mate.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm gonna go night remember for Christmas, I
Speaker 1: think is where I'm wanna.
Speaker 2: Go there moving for Christmas.
Speaker 1: Christmas movie, right, I can't away. I mean, it's kind
Speaker 1: of awe.
Speaker 7: It's it's a little bit of it. If not, it's
Speaker 7: a little bit.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's good.
Speaker 7: That's Christmas in the title that Yeah, me, tanna's up.
Speaker 2: Then you frot.
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm gonna go with the whole the traditional the
Speaker 5: gritch that stole Christmas good one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good, it's good. I almost went that way,
Speaker 1: but Jim Jim Carrey versions.
Speaker 2: Like you gotta you gotta put that one on the
Speaker 2: This is right here.
Speaker 3: Gonna hurt their feelings, you know what. Nineteen eighty four Grimlins.
Speaker 5: Is a Christmas Movieings Christmas, that's a Christmas movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if one diehard is we gotta know it's the Christmas.
Speaker 1: Remember I've ever seen Gremblins.
Speaker 2: I remember when I was young it was on Christmas.
Speaker 5: It's one of those about that because I remember that
Speaker 5: as a kid watching that movie.
Speaker 2: Right, No book, get.
Speaker 7: Them so I get the last one?
Speaker 1: What you got? Yeah?
Speaker 7: All right, last one again another favorite of mine as
Speaker 7: a kid. But uh with Arnold Schwarzenegger jingle all the
Speaker 7: way all right one, Yeah, I like it. Some honorable mentions.
Speaker 7: I'm just gonna mention them because my wife makes me
Speaker 7: watch these every year. I want to give a shout
Speaker 7: out there.
Speaker 1: Or it's Holiday, the Holiday with Kate Winslet.
Speaker 7: No, no, Cameron Diaz.
Speaker 1: Oh and it's Jack Blackson that right Jack though? For sure? Though?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, actually is is that? Actually like the worst like
Speaker 1: romance movie?
Speaker 7: Terrible, But I have to watch it at least twice
Speaker 7: every year. It's a wonderful life my family always puts in.
Speaker 1: Dude, I don't think I've ever seen that all the
Speaker 1: way through.
Speaker 4: A wonderful life is very much overrated.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen all the way through.
Speaker 1: I've seen parts of it.
Speaker 2: Is they ain't the one when the key gets hitting.
Speaker 1: At with some soo no, that's that's a Christmas story.
Speaker 7: Canna took that this is the number two picks.
Speaker 5: It's just like it's just like one of knows it's
Speaker 5: not even about being overrated. Something that you all had
Speaker 5: to see.
Speaker 4: It's a class people talking about that growing.
Speaker 2: Up and like you wanted to see that move right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: The Santa Claus is another favorite.
Speaker 1: Santa Claus. I was gonna say I almost picked that one.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's where we can return returns scary Christmas.
Speaker 2: That's the one.
Speaker 1: The Beatles, that's a great one. That's a great one.
Speaker 1: Easy over there, Tiger, okay, easy.
Speaker 4: There was always one of my celebrity crushes. I love Michelle.
Speaker 1: So I love it. I love my life, I love
Speaker 1: my wife.
Speaker 7: I'll recap these fans can vote like last time, Uh, fred,
Speaker 7: I wonder if you'll get shut out again, has Elf
Speaker 7: Christmas vacation mayor before Christmas.
Speaker 1: We're pretty good about that, Tanna.
Speaker 7: A Christmas story trading places, nice little Curveball there and
Speaker 7: the Grinch.
Speaker 1: Fred Trading places home alone.
Speaker 7: Bad Santa, that's an excellent one.
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna live boy friends who don't know they
Speaker 5: would be like and then they're gonna google.
Speaker 1: They'm like Santa though, and Humblelone. Yeah, that's not bad.
Speaker 7: And then I had die hard Muppet Christmas Carol and
Speaker 7: Jingle all the way.
Speaker 1: I don't know, mine's very neat, dude, Muppet Christmas Carol all.
Speaker 5: Have a movie in there that people didn't quite know
Speaker 5: it was a Christian movie, was kind.
Speaker 1: Of kid friendly due, but Muppet Christmas Carol is like,
Speaker 1: literally it's probably it's like one of my favorites. I
Speaker 1: watched it, yeah, and like, like, what's his name, Michael Canaan.
Speaker 1: That is excellent.
Speaker 2: So I watched this.
Speaker 5: I watched so this to be correct'na. I'm gonna say
Speaker 5: this because I know we put the downa. I liked
Speaker 5: the Jim Carrey, but I watched the Doctor Zeus.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say I kind.
Speaker 7: Of liked more than than the most recent one.
Speaker 5: No, I'm talking about the original, like the one that
Speaker 5: was all with the Charlie Brown kind of news.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty good. I like that. Actually, I it's
Speaker 1: a double knuckle there because I actually liked that better.
Speaker 2: That was for culture, way better than for the culture.
Speaker 7: Well, definitely comment for any movies we forgot, and make
Speaker 7: sure you get on Spotify the vote for who wins this?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Is that gonna do it for Thanks for watching
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