WEBVTT - Michael Patrick King reveals the actor that auditioned for 10 different characters before landing an iconic role! 

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are

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<v Speaker 1>you a Charlotte?

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<v Speaker 2>Hi?

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone, welcome back to Are You a Charlotte? We are

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<v Speaker 1>here today with part two with Michael Patrick King. Always

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<v Speaker 1>a good time. Thanks for joining us when you were writing.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to connect it all to Charlotte. So

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<v Speaker 1>what I see when I watch the scene with Cynthia especially,

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<v Speaker 1>is like Charlotte and Kristen are kind of dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>the evolution of Charlotte in terms of getting out of

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<v Speaker 1>some of the boxed elements of her right, Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she's always trying so hard, and she's peppy, and she's whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah, and now we're really we're really stretching right. Heartbroken, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she's heartbroken, and also but she's still going to try, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but then she doesn't know how like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like you can't just deviate, right, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get to the point where I'm laying on

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<v Speaker 1>my couch and carry comes and that's such a beautiful scene, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're so you're but like building block by building block,

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable leave the situation.

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<v Speaker 2>You can never you can never lose gravity. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly go someplace where the audience goes, wait, did I

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<v Speaker 2>miss an episode?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>It all has to be a little bit ahead, but

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<v Speaker 2>just a little.

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<v Speaker 1>Bit of head right, right.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's too far ahead, they don't understand started to

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<v Speaker 2>see Oh she's covering, Oh she's covering. Oh that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be hard. And then you see the nobility of

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<v Speaker 2>her coming at the end and choosing friendship.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, And that's what we were talking about. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember that scene at all, which is interesting because I

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<v Speaker 1>was worried about the other scene. But I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I was worried about that scene. But you can tell.

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<v Speaker 1>I could tell when I come in the door that

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<v Speaker 1>I've already been crying. Yeah, right, So that was interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it was a choice, right, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably just whatever take or whatever and me having

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<v Speaker 1>all like at that point there is pent up, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And then and I couldn't remember what I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to say, which I love, right, not on the scene

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<v Speaker 1>when I was watching, right, And I love that that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Also we want and didn't want the audience to know.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, It worked so good.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, oh, they're all acting Samantha's giving her

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<v Speaker 2>tea right the way Samantha gave Carrie, uh breakfast in

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<v Speaker 2>the movie. Yeah, she was devastated. There's like a weird

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<v Speaker 2>nurse that shows up in Samantha very rarely when something

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<v Speaker 2>emotionally devastating, Yes, which is in the air because you

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<v Speaker 2>don't see it coming, but she barely doesn't even say anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally she's great. Well, it's also like in My Motherboard myself,

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<v Speaker 1>which I had remembered the general storyline, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>remember the payoff. Right, so good, so good.

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<v Speaker 2>So the thing that people used to say is why

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<v Speaker 2>is the show? So why do people still watch it?

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<v Speaker 2>It's because of the love, not the sex. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>love of these women for each other. And the sex

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<v Speaker 2>is fantastic because it's humiliating. Everybody relates to it, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's comic and it's human.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's human, and there's not actually and survivors.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but it's really the moments where you know, Miranda

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<v Speaker 2>jumps out of the aisle at her when Carrie jumps

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<v Speaker 2>out of the isle at Miranda's mother's funeral she was

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<v Speaker 2>going to walk with, or when Miranda respects what Charlotte

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<v Speaker 2>says yes, and then still holds that space for her

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<v Speaker 2>as they say, walking down the street in New York

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<v Speaker 2>amongst everybody else, not even aware that they're having this crisis,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's it's the moment of you know, the comedy

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<v Speaker 2>of Carrie in the bathroom Aiden saying did you tell him?

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<v Speaker 2>And Sarah Jessica is so comic in that scene do

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<v Speaker 2>it all now? Like it's pure candy for her, Like

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<v Speaker 2>like she's not even she's like like a little rock

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<v Speaker 2>on a pond, not even saying the line. She just

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<v Speaker 2>perfectly needed. Yes, different way to add something to the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely abortion storyline.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely an incredible It's incredible. Okay, let's go back to

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<v Speaker 1>the beautiful and the clothes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I mean now you see it like

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<v Speaker 2>Kerry walking in in that kilt with the mail.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I've forgotten about that one.

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<v Speaker 2>It's right now.

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<v Speaker 1>We should have gotten that outfit out. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>show Sarah outfits to juggle. That is so completely incredible,

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<v Speaker 1>Edgy current, Yep, I know it, I know it. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they were just all of it is just delicious

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<v Speaker 1>and talking about Definitely, definitely, but also because I think

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<v Speaker 1>and I just want to go back to like when

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<v Speaker 1>you okay. So at this point we've got Jenny, We've

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<v Speaker 1>got Cindy, Darren is.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh this is full room? Is Darren gone gone? Got

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<v Speaker 2>on season two? Gone?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought?

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<v Speaker 2>Is a complete raw rock star female room. Allan Heinberg's

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<v Speaker 2>there is Yeah, Yeah, yeah, We've got to find Alan

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<v Speaker 2>Alan Heinberg's there. It's a very.

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<v Speaker 1>Strong Amy Harris.

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<v Speaker 2>Amy b Harris, Julie, Elisaz coming maybe there okay, Cindy,

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<v Speaker 2>Jenny and me. It was a big ass room of

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<v Speaker 2>people with a lot of feelings, a lot of opinions,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of female information, and a lot of humiliation, comedy,

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<v Speaker 2>humiliation and all this. All we did was just mine

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<v Speaker 2>what happened, what happened, what happened on the weekend, And

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<v Speaker 2>no one was pregnant, but everybody was still feeling it's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to be friends with people all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>You mean, like the people who are pregnant and are

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<v Speaker 1>now like in a different world.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of the stories were mining female friendships.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, they age got it, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like when you fall apart, when you come

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<v Speaker 2>back together, what's legitimate. You know, we've done many, many

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<v Speaker 2>stories where the women fell apart At one point in

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<v Speaker 2>the movie, after Miranda held the secret that she told

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<v Speaker 2>Big to not get married, she sent carry yellow flower

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<v Speaker 2>yellow roses and saying, you know you have to forgive me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the friendship flower yellow roses, the flower for friendships.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>So Miranda sends her this a big arrangement because she

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<v Speaker 2>won't return her call.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was always about realizing that these female relationships

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<v Speaker 2>that you have are relationships, their past friendships totally the

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<v Speaker 2>relationships that's the loves of your life. As we said

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<v Speaker 2>with Big in the Finaley, Yes you're the loves of

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<v Speaker 2>her life. Yes. So all those women had friends and

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<v Speaker 2>some of and then within the room we have interactions

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<v Speaker 2>and we're still friends. Yes, thank god, you're still friends. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that is the strongest continuing friendships of writers of all

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<v Speaker 2>the rooms I've been in a group. It's very hard

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<v Speaker 2>to maintain a group. You'll fall in love with one

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<v Speaker 2>person and they'll stay in your life, but a group

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<v Speaker 2>moving along was a testament to the camaraderie of that room.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's a testament to you choosing them.

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<v Speaker 1>And could we talk a little bit about that because

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<v Speaker 1>you're really the maestro at this point. And Julia and

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<v Speaker 1>Alisa had never written a script before Motherboard, which is insane.

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<v Speaker 1>How did that happen? How did you find people? How

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<v Speaker 1>did you choose people and bring them along?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it comes from their writing. First of all, you

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<v Speaker 2>read something that they wrote, and to me, it's a voice,

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<v Speaker 2>it's one thought. It doesn't feel like writing, it feels

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<v Speaker 2>like life. And Juliane and Elisa wrote a script, a specscript.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even think it was our show, but I

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<v Speaker 2>immediately new they have a voice that I haven't. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't feel like it's written. It feels like it's alive.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody on the page has something. When I look at

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<v Speaker 2>scripts that other writers are wanting me to do, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd look for the one thing and it can be

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<v Speaker 2>one completely original sentence and I go, oh, I've never

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<v Speaker 2>heard anybody write that. Wow, that's what you look for, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And then that's first, and then you meet them and

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<v Speaker 2>it's all about the energy, and it's like, do do

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<v Speaker 2>I feel funnier across from them? Do I feel smarter

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<v Speaker 2>across from them? Do I feel like more myself across

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<v Speaker 2>from them? That's important because that means that you're going

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<v Speaker 2>there's something there that you want to entertain, which will

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<v Speaker 2>bring up the better part of you is in the room.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's that are they humans right? Are they

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<v Speaker 2>safe right? Are they come to bolt? Are they humble?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they group right?

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's important important. So then when you're in the

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<v Speaker 1>writer's room, because anytime any of our writers come on,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like there's so much that obviously I didn't ask

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<v Speaker 1>you at the time, right, and I'd love to hear

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<v Speaker 1>about it. So you would have people come to la

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<v Speaker 1>pre before the season, like in between the seasons. Tell

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<v Speaker 1>us a little bit about that process.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a pre room where you sort of plow up

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<v Speaker 2>the field. Can you get all the dirt going? And

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<v Speaker 2>what did you think over the hiatus? What did you think?

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<v Speaker 2>What could it be? What could it be? And I

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<v Speaker 2>always came in with the map, a very strong impulse

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<v Speaker 2>to start in a very strong impulse.

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<v Speaker 1>You already envision, already.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagined a journey, got it of each of the characters,

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<v Speaker 2>got it. And then the side trips or where everybody

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<v Speaker 2>else is like what if we do that? What if

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<v Speaker 2>we do that? What if we do that? What if

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<v Speaker 2>we do that? What if we do that, what if

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<v Speaker 2>we do that? But when we were in Atlantic City

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<v Speaker 2>doing the Atlantic City episode, Yeah, they still talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that in the middle of that season I

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<v Speaker 2>put them in a hotel room with me and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>here's season the next season, or here's the next season,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like, oh, So sometimes it comes to you

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<v Speaker 2>and then it's it's a trial, it's a jury room.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you like it? I mean, I'll give you a

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<v Speaker 2>perfect example. I've said this before. Some writers in the room.

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<v Speaker 2>Julie Rottenberg did not want to see Aiden again. What

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<v Speaker 2>when Aiden left? She was like the first time goodbye? Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>When after the wedding and they didn't get married. After

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<v Speaker 2>Charlotte got married and Aiden went his way, I felt

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<v Speaker 2>very strongly that Carrie and Aiden was strong. John Corvett

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<v Speaker 2>and Sarah Jessica were amazing together. So I came into

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<v Speaker 2>the thing, I think Aiden comes back and Julie protecting

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<v Speaker 2>our integrity of not repeating and not trying to duplicate

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<v Speaker 2>something was like absolutely, and everybody was like what, And

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<v Speaker 2>then somebody else had a couple of minutes I agree

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<v Speaker 2>with that, and I said, Okay, give me reasons Aiden

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't come back, and they quoted Samantha that whole crunchy

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<v Speaker 2>granola thing, that turquoise jewelry crunchy granola thing. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, you're using our own words against us.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, oh, okay, so you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to see that. Aiden, I raise you that, and I

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<v Speaker 2>go you one better. I acknowledge that and go you

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<v Speaker 2>one better. What if he comes back different, so then

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<v Speaker 2>we can maintain are not the same thing? He said,

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<v Speaker 2>what if he comes back hard? There's a rock and

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<v Speaker 2>ripped and they're like and with his hair cut and

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<v Speaker 2>they were like what, oh, wait a minute. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I went to John Corbett and I took him to

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<v Speaker 2>lunch at Jones and we were eating. He was eating

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<v Speaker 2>fried chicken and he's eating fried chicken and mashed potatoes

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<v Speaker 2>and we were in a booth and I said, hey, John,

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<v Speaker 2>we want to bring you back. He said, oh, that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's cool. That's cool. I said that you've got to

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<v Speaker 2>come back worked out, ripped with short hair, and he

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<v Speaker 2>goes on nude. I was a fatty and he rolled

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<v Speaker 2>over on his side and that nude I was my god.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I was like deal and he says yeap wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that you made those men work out.

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<v Speaker 2>Love that people sometimes say to me like actress after actresses,

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<v Speaker 2>and I go, are you kidding me? They have to

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<v Speaker 2>show up at five am and they click on a

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<v Speaker 2>neon bright light in front of a makeup mirror at

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<v Speaker 2>five am and they have to sit there take it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the journey to getting in front of the camera,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's so hard to relax and open up in

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<v Speaker 2>front of a camera. And I remember one time when

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<v Speaker 2>we were doing the episode where they go to the

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<v Speaker 2>Playboy mansion in the LA episode discussed. It was the

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<v Speaker 2>scene where they were supposed to drive up in the

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<v Speaker 2>blue convertible and and in the sound and in front

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<v Speaker 2>of the fountain, and the sun was hitting the fountain

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<v Speaker 2>and you were nowhere to be seen, none of you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, the sun's leaving. The sun is leaving.

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<v Speaker 2>And they were like, well, they're not here, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, the sun's leaving off. You were down a

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<v Speaker 2>hill of Playboy in a trailer and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm losing the sun. And I got in a golf

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<v Speaker 2>cart with my hair on fire, went went down boom

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<v Speaker 2>across the speed bumps Playboy mansion gate. Boom parked the

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<v Speaker 2>car and knock, and I opened the door to like say,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go, and the four of you were in the

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<v Speaker 2>chair and there was some sort of cool music playing

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<v Speaker 2>from the nineties or the seventies or whatever, and you

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<v Speaker 2>all just literally looked at me like this, Oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>don't bring that in here. And I closed the door

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<v Speaker 2>and I never pounded on a makeup door sense, because

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, that's a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a thing, that's a ritual, that's definitely church, definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>Energy, that has nothing to do. And eventually you got

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<v Speaker 2>the message and you all showed up and we got

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<v Speaker 2>the shot and the sun was hitting the water and

0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:57.080
<v Speaker 2>you were all adorable. But it was like, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot to get ready to be on camera.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a lot. It is a lot. You're absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a delicate It was a delicate thing in

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<v Speaker 1>the trailer, you know what I mean, And that we

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<v Speaker 1>also had the whole hair and makeup team right by

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody had exactly you know, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's a delicate thing to be To go

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<v Speaker 2>back to Kuda what he should have to be at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of that block, know that there's twenty extras,

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<v Speaker 2>Frankel says, action and you know, twenty five feet from

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<v Speaker 2>now you have to cry.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true, It's true. It is an actor. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>hard thing to do. But I will say this generally speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>and this again is just growth. Right. You know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been an acting class forever, you know, previous to this,

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<v Speaker 1>right like forever. And I don't know if you remember.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I wasn't acting class since I was like

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<v Speaker 1>ten years old, right till like even after college. Then

0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I went to college for it was a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>acting class. And acting class can kind of mess you

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<v Speaker 1>up in a way, right, because it's not exactly the same,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know what I'm saying. Surprise, it's different

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<v Speaker 1>when you get definitely. But they also talk about raising

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<v Speaker 1>the stakes, raising the stakes, raising the stakes all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>which I do think is important for comedy. That's how

0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:09.800
<v Speaker 1>you make comedy work. It's like to internally raise the stakes, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But that's a fine line to walk. Also, And early

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<v Speaker 1>on before you came, I don't think you were there

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't remember your face there there made me

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<v Speaker 1>reshoot something. Did I ever tell you this?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I know this story, but it was the pilot.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, no, not the pilot. I want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>like the first or second episode directed by that woman,

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<v Speaker 1>that lanky independent film woman, Alison McLean. I believe, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel I could be wrong. I think it was up

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<v Speaker 1>the butt situation where I have to tell the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't want to do it, you know, after

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<v Speaker 1>the cab ride.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hm, and I wrote you, I find it very

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<v Speaker 2>hard to believe I wouldn't have been in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you, but let me tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>Darren said to me because I don't remember your face

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<v Speaker 1>in this event, right, I think so interaction basically I

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<v Speaker 1>had to reshoot it. One of the only things I

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<v Speaker 1>ever remember how to reshoot because I cried and Darren

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you don't care, and I was like what

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<v Speaker 1>and he goes, you know, there's a guy around the corner,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like there is, but you know me right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm just like, you're speaking Mandarin to me. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what you're saying, like what he's like because

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<v Speaker 1>he knew the show that he wanted to do, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which was going to be like basically a guy a week,

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<v Speaker 1>a guy an episode. Because I was like when I

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<v Speaker 1>when I go to confess to the guy that I

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<v Speaker 1>want nice sheets and whatever, and I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be the up the gut whatever the exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>That's too far, that's just not fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely, that's how I perceived obviously. So and then I

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<v Speaker 1>had to reshoot because he's told me you were too upset.

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<v Speaker 1>You were too upset, and I was like, okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>I had to go back and reshoot. That's what acting

0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:52.000
<v Speaker 1>class will do to, right. It's like everything is that

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<v Speaker 1>to have the deep, deep stakes, do what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So then when I but then I think I had

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<v Speaker 1>relaxed all of that, right because like be on a show,

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<v Speaker 1>especially our show, which you have, you know, so many

0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.280
<v Speaker 1>scenes like coffee shop scenes in this scene and that scene,

0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:09.920
<v Speaker 1>in so many different types of scenes where and tell

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<v Speaker 1>me what you think. I think that one of the reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>like one of the obviously coffee shop scene is very

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<v Speaker 1>hard to film, very long, but when you watch them,

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<v Speaker 1>so fing enjoyable, right because everyone is so present, And

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<v Speaker 1>that became to me like I just want to be present.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to have of course, all of my underlying.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all it's all up the butt. With season two,

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<v Speaker 2>Season one, I think it's five or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay, maybe it wasn't that then.

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<v Speaker 2>Season one, episode four, okay, okay, So everybody, everybody's like,

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<v Speaker 2>what is this totally you know, like and the tone

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<v Speaker 2>of anything. When you get to the set, you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw it a different way. I've been so many surprised.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been surprised. My whole journey has been going from

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<v Speaker 2>no to I don't know, like just you see something

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not how you saw it. You thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was going to go, and you react rather than eventually

0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:09.920
<v Speaker 2>you start to go, oh that's is that better?

0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:10.520
<v Speaker 1>That's better?

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<v Speaker 2>How can it be both? So it's but it's all new,

0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:17.160
<v Speaker 2>it's all it's all seventh graders putting on a show

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<v Speaker 2>at the beginning, so everybody's just not knowing what it's

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be. Definitely, but by the time we got

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<v Speaker 2>to the coffee shop scenes, and also I will say

0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:30.280
<v Speaker 2>the coffee shop scenes were the rockets exactly what you

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<v Speaker 2>were supposed to do. They were rather attack tack at

0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:39.080
<v Speaker 2>tack five, six, seven, eight, whereas a scene telling a

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<v Speaker 2>man that you don't want to be missus up the

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<v Speaker 2>butt is a weird definitely collab of comedy tragedy. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's more open to Am I failing? Do we

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<v Speaker 2>have it?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it done right right? Definitely?

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<v Speaker 2>But the coffee shops boom but boom, but boom but boom.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been I've been dating and unexhausted. Where is he?

0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Definitely boom Definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody was fake eating or real eating in Cynthia's case,

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<v Speaker 2>like a motherfucker hitting their marks, nailing it. Because of

0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:27.520
<v Speaker 2>the coverage. Everybody had to be concise. It was really choreography, definitely,

0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:34.560
<v Speaker 2>and it was usually feast of ideas. Everybody had a

0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:35.959
<v Speaker 2>different point of view and you knew who you were

0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:39.199
<v Speaker 2>playing very clear what was supposed to be happening. And

0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:44.000
<v Speaker 2>in the coffee shop scene in this one, very interesting departures.

0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:49.159
<v Speaker 2>Charlotte's left the coffee shop scene twice. This time she

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<v Speaker 2>gets up and leaves mad and when Carrie's when she's

0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:55.280
<v Speaker 2>when Samantha's talking about funky spunk, she gets up in

0:20:56.280 --> 0:21:00.560
<v Speaker 2>disgusted like that, and Miranda says, and she's ever coming

0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:04.400
<v Speaker 2>back a comedy. This one is a painful one. She

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<v Speaker 2>cannot be there and she lowers the boom right right.

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<v Speaker 2>Let a residence in the room that we then cashed

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<v Speaker 2>in on the whole rest of the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely, definitely, definitely Do you remember when you had Cynthia

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<v Speaker 1>eat and get stuff in her teeth.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the olive tampa she had the braces? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that just so much fun for you?

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<v Speaker 2>So much fun?

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<v Speaker 1>She was so into it. I remember being so concerned, like,

0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:33.000
<v Speaker 1>that's too much like that?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Cynthia, I know she goes. There is I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if I've ever told you this story.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 2>There is at the episode where she makes the cake okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and she wants to have a cake and she goes

0:21:48.520 --> 0:21:50.960
<v Speaker 2>to a pa yard and the cakes are like forty

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<v Speaker 2>seven dollars and she's like bullshit. And Miranda goes and

0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:57.119
<v Speaker 2>gets a Duncan Heinz cake and she makes a sheet

0:21:57.200 --> 0:22:00.440
<v Speaker 2>cake because she wants to have that cake. She wants

0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:03.520
<v Speaker 2>to reward herself with the cake. And the episode was

0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:08.439
<v Speaker 2>she can't stop eating the cake. She keeps into the

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<v Speaker 2>truck and she calls Carrie and says after she this

0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:15.800
<v Speaker 2>was a duty told God rest her sweet talented soul

0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:19.680
<v Speaker 2>story of she couldn't stop eating things. So she threw

0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:21.560
<v Speaker 2>the cake and the thing and that wasn't even enough.

0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:23.439
<v Speaker 2>She knew she'd take it out of the garbage, so

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<v Speaker 2>she puts palm olive dishwashing liquid all all over it

0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:28.879
<v Speaker 2>so she won't pick it out of the garbage. And

0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:30.959
<v Speaker 2>Miranda says, I'm calling you. This is your friend, Miranda,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm calling you from the Betty Crocker home instead of

0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:40.520
<v Speaker 2>the Betty Ford. Wow. But I didn't direct it. Alan

0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:43.760
<v Speaker 2>Culture directed and he was an independent filmmaker, and he

0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:47.200
<v Speaker 2>was a I would say, a hot shot cowboy. He

0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:52.240
<v Speaker 2>had a lot of ideas and themes and magically funny

0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:55.800
<v Speaker 2>anymore pork pie hat into it, Yes, And I one

0:22:55.800 --> 0:22:58.359
<v Speaker 2>of the few nights I wasn't on set and it

0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:00.200
<v Speaker 2>was very late and they were shooting the scene where

0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Miranda just keeps cutting the cake smaller and smaller and smaller.

0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:10.120
<v Speaker 2>But he saw I've committed myself to the Betty Crocker clinic,

0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:13.360
<v Speaker 2>and he ran with it so that he had Cynthia,

0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:19.080
<v Speaker 2>in a like stylized moment, eat the cake, smear it

0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:24.360
<v Speaker 2>all over her face, slide across the floor, took chocolate

0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:27.600
<v Speaker 2>fingers up and down on their walls. And I saw

0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:33.879
<v Speaker 2>the footage and it was full indie film. It was

0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Requiem for a Dream. It was everything expressionistic. It was

0:23:39.040 --> 0:23:43.040
<v Speaker 2>a I think it was an the phrase big swing wow.

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:45.800
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, and Cynthia was chocolate on her

0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:48.600
<v Speaker 2>face and she was her fingers were going down the

0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:50.480
<v Speaker 2>wall and she was in the corner in the camera.

0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:53.000
<v Speaker 2>He had the candheld camera coming up and she was like,

0:23:53.160 --> 0:24:02.000
<v Speaker 2>she was possessed. And I saw it and I was like, what.

0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 2>And he goes, she went crazy, and I go, but

0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:10.679
<v Speaker 2>she can't go crazy. She's a character on our show.

0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:13.080
<v Speaker 2>And it's one of the few things. And he said,

0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:16.199
<v Speaker 2>but in the great I said, it's great, but something

0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:20.359
<v Speaker 2>else go there, Wow, it's it's supposed to be a

0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:25.400
<v Speaker 2>relatable the evening taking the piece of canpen refrigerator. So

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:27.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean we had to shoot the whole thing, yea.

0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:30.639
<v Speaker 2>And so they came in. She had she was she

0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:32.840
<v Speaker 2>was in her pajamas in the character and she came in.

0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:37.879
<v Speaker 2>She walked by me and she said it wasn't good. No,

0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:42.960
<v Speaker 2>it was good. Committing Miranda to a mental institution. That

0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:48.200
<v Speaker 2>was fun. She did love run run with it.

0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Of course, anything you give her, which reminds me. We

0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 1>did talk to the Lovely Man that she vomited on

0:24:56.440 --> 0:24:57.880
<v Speaker 1>they vomited that we had to cut.

0:24:58.000 --> 0:25:01.000
<v Speaker 2>We cut it, tell us that was right, it, I

0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:03.240
<v Speaker 2>mean it was rough. It was the idea, we're gonna

0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:07.399
<v Speaker 2>get so drunk that when she's having sex with this

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:11.720
<v Speaker 2>hot guy, she's all detective, she's all up in her

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:18.840
<v Speaker 2>and literally she's so drunk that she vomits down on him.

0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:24.000
<v Speaker 2>And we had a and I've always wanted to do it.

0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:28.960
<v Speaker 2>We never pulled it off a giant O's because I

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:37.600
<v Speaker 2>always imagined as a comic director, the idea, incredible amount

0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:39.439
<v Speaker 2>of vomit comic.

0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Can we not do it on them? Just like that,

0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:42.720
<v Speaker 1>Come on, I'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell you that's okay. And it always has to have

0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:49.920
<v Speaker 2>And we had this tube on Cynthia and she did it,

0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:52.320
<v Speaker 2>but the tube kept going and then it was like,

0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:53.960
<v Speaker 2>well this isn't it is too much?

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<v Speaker 1>Got it?

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<v Speaker 2>So then I tried it again on it, just like

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<v Speaker 2>that when Sarah Jessica's were carrying with John Tenny and

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:05.040
<v Speaker 2>we had the thing on on her and it was

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<v Speaker 2>like just you could see it and it wasn't working,

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:12.160
<v Speaker 2>and then she said, I don't want to put that.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy from Special Effects wasn't good. He was fired

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<v Speaker 2>after that. Oh, No, it was a guy who came

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:20.399
<v Speaker 2>on vombit expert. Oh dear, wasn't oh my, and so

0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 2>we got rid of him. But Sarah Jess said watch

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<v Speaker 2>and we had a giant two liter thing of Dinty Moore.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I understand.

0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:37.160
<v Speaker 2>She chugged it. Oh my. Then she like some animal,

0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:42.879
<v Speaker 2>made it come out, kept a second chamber, watched and

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:47.320
<v Speaker 2>did it again. No, And I was like, I don't

0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 2>know how I did that.

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:49.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't either.

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:53.120
<v Speaker 2>It was real, Oh my god, she did it herself.

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Without We have to discuss this with her speak of it.

0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 2>And as a matter of fact, I should not be

0:26:57.880 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 2>speaking of it, for it was so impressive as a

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:04.879
<v Speaker 2>this isn't working.

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:06.680
<v Speaker 1>She always knows what she will.

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 2>She knows she does, like, this isn't working. Forget that,

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:14.480
<v Speaker 2>give me the thing that thing. And I was like, well, boom,

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 2>and the thing you see in the show is purely

0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 2>her no effect.

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't fantastic. I didn't know the details.

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 2>She somehow went full and then somehow retained some and

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:29.440
<v Speaker 2>went full again, because it was two that's in the comedy.

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:32.720
<v Speaker 2>Was I'm fine, she throws up, I'm fine, she throws up.

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, did it, Oh my god.

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:37.679
<v Speaker 2>And then Tenny's sorry doing he was like, all right,

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:40.160
<v Speaker 2>give me something. He was doing it too.

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:42.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh my god. And that was like in the

0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 1>wee hours at some Yeah I was not there, but

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I was like, that's like a callback.

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 2>That was rough. People lost their jobs and she saved

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:51.160
<v Speaker 2>the day.

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Wow, amazing, amazing, And I never heard the story. Thank

0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 1>you for telling us that story. I mean, she's amazing,

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:00.440
<v Speaker 1>she is amazing. But did you feel that you had

0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:03.120
<v Speaker 1>achieved your your your funny vomit?

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:06.639
<v Speaker 2>Never did it the way? And I finally saw it

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:11.640
<v Speaker 2>done on the Righteous Gemstones Okay, same where they found

0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 2>out that their father was probably not going to live,

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:16.840
<v Speaker 2>but he did before the four siblings were out in

0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 2>front of the hospital and they did it no way.

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:22.600
<v Speaker 2>And then another one it was.

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:24.400
<v Speaker 1>We need to find that vomit.

0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Expert, so barcicle, and it was belonged on their show.

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 2>Not that different to do that anymore.

0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Because I saw somebody you're okay, okay, good good, So

0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 1>seeing it made you feel happy as dirty.

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 2>There was one bit I never got into the show,

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 2>which was a hard on threw boxer shorts. Okay, the

0:28:54.640 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 2>scene where Charlotte surprises Trey drunk and he gets hard before.

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:02.320
<v Speaker 1>They get married. Yeah, yeah, the.

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 2>Thing that makes her think, oh this will happen, or

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 2>after they get married when they were separated. I don't remember.

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 1>I think that's when they're separated. Yeah, don't have to

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 1>go out with the girls.

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:16.480
<v Speaker 2>And then and Kyle came to the set and I said,

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 2>here's this and he had Ralph Lauren boxers and I said,

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 2>I want a giant tint of I remember this, and

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:27.720
<v Speaker 2>he was like, I'm not. I can't do that and

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 2>I'll have nothing. I can't do that. What does that mean?

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 1>What did he mean, I'll have to?

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, poor Kyle, Kyle. He showed up to be

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 2>Prince Charming and I told him on the day, which

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 2>is why he took the job, because he thought, well,

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 2>that's better than being just handsome, right, But he thought

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 2>that was too far, and I was like, god, damn it,

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:50.760
<v Speaker 2>it's funny, and I let go of it until I

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 2>saw forty year old virgin no biggest laugh in the movie.

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 1>You know what's funny, though, is when I was watching it,

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 1>And this is the interesting about rewatching all this time later,

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 1>I did have a memory of there's something being weird

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 1>about watching that scene. I was like, there's something weird

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 1>about this because also we're supposed to kind of have

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:11.720
<v Speaker 1>sex standing up ish, Really we come in as this

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 1>sudden thing, right because that's his thing.

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:16.959
<v Speaker 2>Like, I mean, it was rare because you reached below

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 2>frame but there was nothing to reach to. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 2>yeah yeah yeah, like it was on CBS suddenly.

0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Totally yes, And I did think that. I was like that,

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:26.960
<v Speaker 1>So why did we do that?

0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Kyle was such a great sport. It was just

0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 2>for one morning. It was a very early shoot.

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:44.959
<v Speaker 1>Because I got it, got it, got it. Question I

0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 1>have about that? I remember, tell me if I'm wrong

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 1>that he was only supposed to be on like five

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 1>in the beginning episodes, so.

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't have any awareness of that.

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, did you think because it was all supposed to

0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 1>be the way you described it to me at least

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:01.320
<v Speaker 1>at first, was that you know, Charlotte's got this goal

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:04.120
<v Speaker 1>right and she's like hell then, like we're going to

0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 1>get the gold. But remember how he was supposed to

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 1>be boring, Like when we're on the boat with Big

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 1>and Carrie, Carrie's they're not together, BIG's on the boat were.

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:14.480
<v Speaker 2>On the That's the thing we were talking about it before,

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:16.840
<v Speaker 2>is like, what's really happening here? And Kyle is far

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 2>from boring. There's nothing worrying about him, right, So then

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 2>it probably just became more and more and more and

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 2>more and more. I mean, David Eigenberg came in an

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 2>audition for ten Men Before Life and he was never

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 2>the thing, and I kept thinking, who's that realistic guy?

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Definitely, what can we.

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 2>Do with him?

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 2>So not an actor? Yes, And then we thought, well,

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Steve the bartender and just David came in and read it,

0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 2>but we wrote it for him. And Kyle is so

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:45.280
<v Speaker 2>much more than borings. He is a little weird though

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 2>with all that alrighty, then he's a mama's boy. That's

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 2>different than being boring, definitely. But I mean the more

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 2>the more we got into the gold mine, then it

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 2>became about the who's rubbing the vix on his chest? Right?

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 2>It's just all that was.

0:31:57.360 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Funny, so sad and so sad twisted.

0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Franny God rehearsal, Oh my god, so incredible became so

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:07.720
<v Speaker 2>real and Kyle was so real and Charlotte was so real.

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 1>At that point, did you have the idea from the

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 1>get go of the mother of Franny being Bunny.

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:15.240
<v Speaker 3>Being Okay, so that was we had the part of

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 3>the mother got it, the manchild.

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Right, okay, so he was supposed to be a manchild.

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, and the dueling Chanel's oh me.

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 1>And Bunny got it?

0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. We knew that she would be an Upper east

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Side Doyenne and that Charlotte would be an Upper east

0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Side not a Doyenne.

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Got it. But like you know, how it laid out,

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 1>and then I have to say what I'm worth than everything,

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:40.040
<v Speaker 1>which we're not. Yeah, yeah, did you see did you

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 1>have all that planned or did it.

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 2>Just by the time we were filming it? Yeah, But

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 2>it becomes evolved. It only evolves off of Wow, christ

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 2>and let's just do more of that. Let's keep going there.

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 2>It just keeps becoming more and more interesting. And we

0:32:56.880 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 2>believed Charlotte was a real person. So when you believe

0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 2>someone's a real person and you have a permission to

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 2>tell real stories with yeah, yeah, and I mean the

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:13.480
<v Speaker 2>heroics yea of her sticking up for herself and I

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 2>mean incredible.

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I remember also being very nervous about that.

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, fantastic.

0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean because Charlotte a very nervous, like who's

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 1>ever been in that? Like, oh, it's so hard. Question

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:26.080
<v Speaker 1>also just about character and things. How did it come

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:29.040
<v Speaker 1>about that you decided to have Samantha have the relationship

0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:32.240
<v Speaker 1>with Maria, you know her when she decided to try.

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:39.560
<v Speaker 2>To be like because it was about sexual expression. Samantha's

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 2>character was about being an adventurer and having no judgment

0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 2>about sex at all, and so all of a sudden,

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:52.040
<v Speaker 2>the Maria character would have to be somebody who had

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:57.960
<v Speaker 2>a vibration, and Samantha followed vibration. She could almost send

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 2>sex in the room. So she was like, all right,

0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 2>and it just became a color. And also it was

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 2>probably something that would it was first of all ahead

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 2>of the curve, but it was also something that Samantha

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:15.880
<v Speaker 2>would probably allow her self to experience. But of course

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:17.640
<v Speaker 2>the whole thing was like so she could say to

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 2>the three of you ladies, I'm a lesbian. It was

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 2>all for the reaction of you. And then the real

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:29.360
<v Speaker 2>reason we did it is to put up a spotlight

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 2>on the fact that Samantha has intimacy issues and it

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman.

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Definitely, well that was the funniest part was like, you know,

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 1>poor Maria trying to talk to her.

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, trying to make her like a lesbian.

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Right because they liked to talk.

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, there's too much so, you know, we

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:51.040
<v Speaker 2>wanted to underline the male part of Samantha that people

0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 2>thought she was kind of alpha. Was like, ugh, these

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:59.279
<v Speaker 2>ladies in their conversations, it's always about turning over the stereotype.

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 2>Like if we thought we were talking about men is bad,

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 2>then we wanted to make Samantha be like what they

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 2>complained about men, you know, like it's all about what

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:08.759
<v Speaker 2>else can we do?

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 1>That's funny, right, which I love.

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 2>And then you get somebody like Sonya Braka and she's like,

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:15.600
<v Speaker 2>well that's believable totally.

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:19.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, how did you get her? We were a

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:22.279
<v Speaker 1>very good show at that point, right, got it, got it,

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:25.480
<v Speaker 1>got It was kind of a show for sure. We

0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 1>were a show. I mean, if you ask any of

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 1>these actors that I have had on who are in

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:30.919
<v Speaker 1>New York at the time, we were that from the

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:33.400
<v Speaker 1>first season, which is so funny because I don't remember that,

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:34.520
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, But.

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:36.920
<v Speaker 2>By that you mean a show in New York.

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:38.879
<v Speaker 1>Exactly exactly that.

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:41.879
<v Speaker 2>A television shot.

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yes, that's the other funny thing to remember.

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 1>And you just reminded me of something I had Chris

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Albrecht on on Zoom. It was really fun. It was

0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:50.959
<v Speaker 1>really fun.

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 2>It was good. I mean brave. He was a brave man.

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 1>He really was.

0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Just kept saying, hilarious, forget it, I know, just do

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:02.040
<v Speaker 2>your thing. I know, no notes right, right, And one

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 2>thing that was what a great champion for us, I

0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:07.120
<v Speaker 2>know it and for the ideas, yes, and in.

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:10.040
<v Speaker 1>General, not just for us, for the Sparta first, like

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:12.799
<v Speaker 1>there's so many things that were happening Larry Sanders before us,

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Like you know what I'm saying. There were so many things.

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 1>But one of the things that we talked briefly about

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:19.439
<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to get your opinion on it, because

0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:22.280
<v Speaker 1>of course it's interesting to hear from his perspective because

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I was having my own perspective, but I'm sure you

0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 1>were having yours in that. And you know, we're about

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 1>to have the Devil Wor's part of two right, directed

0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:34.399
<v Speaker 1>by David Frankel from Our show, and Devil Worre's Part

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 1>of one in Chris's mind because I asked him something

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 1>about like, how you know the whole gestation of the

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:44.359
<v Speaker 1>Sex and City film and you know the ups and

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:48.759
<v Speaker 1>the downs I know, and how you know, how did

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 1>it happen in your mind or whatever? He said that

0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 1>when the Devil Wor's part of one came out, he

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:56.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, that's our film, and I was.

0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 3>Like, oh really he said that's where I was like, oh, yeah,

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 3>we've got a We've got to figure that out. I

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:05.359
<v Speaker 3>was like, okay, it's so interesting and random over there

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 3>in that world, the executive world.

0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 2>Did a product out before.

0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 1>Us, apparently. I mean, in Chris Aalbrik's mind, can anyone check?

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't.

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:20.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't I find that seven? Then? Yes? Six were four?

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's when the show ended. Our movie came out.

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<v Speaker 1>Two doesn't eat really, I believe?

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<v Speaker 2>So interesting? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Can an even check? Pretty sure? Yeah? Weird?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean for us, emotionally, it's it's all well, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I I don't know about that. I do

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<v Speaker 2>know that every time a woman's movie does well, they

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<v Speaker 2>opened the door for another one or two movies to

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<v Speaker 2>come in, and they forget totally that they did well, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and then their show it's very convenient to forget that

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<v Speaker 2>the budget was blank and it made blank. Forget all

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<v Speaker 2>of that, like it's an outlier. Oh, that's probably right.

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<v Speaker 2>Delaware's product made money and then they thought, well, what

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<v Speaker 2>else can make money? They wear clothes, right, But then

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<v Speaker 2>it's up to us to make even more television show

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<v Speaker 2>that became a movie that did a big thing, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they forget again. Right, they're still forgetting to day,

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<v Speaker 2>they're still forgetting. I'm sure product will do really well

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<v Speaker 2>and then they'll be like, oh, all right, what else?

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<v Speaker 2>What do we got?

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely I hope someone's ready with something.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they it's really interesting how they conveniently forget

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<v Speaker 2>there's a female audience.

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<v Speaker 1>How does it happen? It's insane and infuriating and also

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<v Speaker 1>now the joy is, as Jenny was telling us, the

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<v Speaker 1>older female female audience has the buying power. Like she

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<v Speaker 1>had a detail about house buying. Caulse, You remember that

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<v Speaker 1>episode where Miranda's buying her apartment that Jenny boat is

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<v Speaker 1>so brilliant, right, and you know, because I'm always buy

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<v Speaker 1>myself buying things, it still happens, you know, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to just like it's you just like there's only one

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<v Speaker 1>person who's going to sign this like it's it's just me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's very weird for people. But we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about that and she said that I believe she's so

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<v Speaker 1>that there's more single women over forty or something like

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<v Speaker 1>that buying houses than any other group or something crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>so exciting those people can buy movie tickets.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello he did Rivalry?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, baby, Rivalry.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they that came out of nowhere. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>the other thing. They always are surprised when women movies

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<v Speaker 2>do well, Yeah, because they have. They come out of nowhere, right,

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<v Speaker 2>they're specific, right, and they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>Also figs movie h incredible, incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing, so good does not translate to uh, let's do

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<v Speaker 2>ten more of movies with female characters, right, damn it,

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it does. I'm not sure she's going to get

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<v Speaker 2>to do part two. Maybe all yeah, of course he

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<v Speaker 2>is right. But maybe it's a great movie and it's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It was in roller Coaster to go see and ye,

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<v Speaker 2>people laughing, and the women are smart and great and

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<v Speaker 2>flawed and yeah, yes, but maybe it's all just the

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<v Speaker 2>business is contracting. So it feels like or is it

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, technically it is right, like, technically the business

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<v Speaker 1>is contracted.

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<v Speaker 2>Us the conventional wisdom.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think there's numbers to back that up. Unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, everyone, guess what we have more Michael Patrick King,

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<v Speaker 1>so listen for part three this week. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just too much fun when he's here. So I just

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<v Speaker 1>talked to him about everything, And thank you guys for listening.

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