1 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: How's it going everyone? Welcome to a week two edition 2 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: of Between the Horns, presented by your Southern California took 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: you to Dealers. 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: I'm JB. 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: Lung with my friends Maurice Jones, Drew and Marco Farr 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: the Rams in Nashville. This week it's cam Ward's home debut, 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: a chance to get to two and zero against the 8 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: AFC South for LA. Before we get to that matchup, 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: how's everybody doing good? 10 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: Yes? Good? Good? So far? Week one win? 11 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 3: Right? 12 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: Happy? 13 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 3: It's flying by. 14 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: Yes. 15 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 3: I felt like we just got off the field. 16 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,319 Speaker 2: Now we're back here for a Week two I turn 17 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 2: the page, Yes, sir, the next step. 18 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: I'm good to get off on the right foot. This year, 19 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: we talked about starting faster. The Rams didn't do it 20 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: in the first quarter, but they did overall a good 21 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: win against the Houston team. Week one, though, is known 22 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: for being dishonest. You know what I mean? Week one 23 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: can be misleading. And I went back and I looked 24 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: at some twenty twenty four storylines, headlines you might say, 25 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: not from LA, but across the league, and I wonder 26 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: if you guys might get a kick out of these. 27 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: So if we were sitting in these chairs twelve months ago, 28 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: some of the things we might be saying, Oh, look 29 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: out for that Saints offense Derek Carr in New Orleans 30 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: forty seven points against Carolina could be a problem. 31 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 3: How crazy is that? Twelve months later? 32 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: Wow, everyone's everyone's gone. 33 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: How about this one for your forty nine er friends 34 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: up in the Bay area, Jake Moody, Oh, he's going 35 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: to be an All Pro. They drafted the right kicker, 36 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: six field goals, NFC Special Teams Player of the Week 37 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 1: Week one last year. 38 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,639 Speaker 2: I feel like that tackle where he hurt his ankle 39 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: kind of ruined him a little bit. Yeah, I think 40 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: that's been the reason. And really, to be honest, like 41 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: he's gotten the kiss of death like four times he 42 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: somehow he didn't get it and then Kyle gave it 43 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 2: to him again. 44 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, after Week one last year, nobody would have. 45 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: Expected this day. I see where we're going. 46 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels pretty good last year as a rookie. 47 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: Agreed yes Week. 48 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: One, three fumbles, one hundred and eighty four passing yards. 49 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: So I'm sure somewhere in the football universe someone was saying, ooh, 50 00:01:58,760 --> 00:01:59,919 Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels might take. 51 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: Some Yeah right exactly. 52 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: So in this show we'll do a little Week one 53 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: reaction as well. But first, some things from around the 54 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: league that I think warn't discussion. Kittle and Purty speaking 55 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: of the Niners, big story, Wow. 56 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 3: A month boats out? Probably a month? 57 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: Yes, Kittle, we won't see in Week five at Sofi Stadium. 58 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: Party was a turf toe it sounds like. 59 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: And the shoulder, Yeah, I saw. I heard that this 60 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: morning when I woke up. They had it all on 61 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: the news. 62 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 4: And you know me, I'd rather have your best players 63 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 4: out there when I beat you. But Kittle and Party 64 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 4: want to miss the game, then so be it. 65 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: The game before that. The next time the Rams are 66 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 1: at Sofi Stadium, the Colts will be in town. They've 67 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: yet to punt in twenty twenty five, so maybe a 68 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: bit more frisky than we anticipated with Danny Dimes. 69 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 2: Or maybe or maybe the Dolphins just don't want to 70 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: play for that. That could be too Daniel Jones could be 71 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 2: better than we give them credit for. But I think 72 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 2: you might be right about Miami. 73 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: Miami. The arrow might be pointing the wrong way. Yeah, 74 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 3: I think it's I think they're kind of on their 75 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 3: way out. 76 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: I got one more for your people in Jacksonville. Enough 77 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: is enough, but it's getting annoying. 78 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: Listen, brother, no disrespect, but I love Cody Trader, but 79 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: the thirty two on him in Jacksonville's a little kind 80 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 2: of rubbed me the wrong way. I just want to 81 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: put that out there. Okay, is rub me the wrong way? 82 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 2: I sent a couple of text messages out. I got 83 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 2: some responses back, but it's just like I love the guy, 84 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: I love the Rams, yes, but thirty two in. 85 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: Jacksonville is like that shouldn't be touched for a while. 86 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: James Stone, Jake, Timmy, we love you. Yeah, you're kind 87 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: of setting up like a West Coast Jackson. 88 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 3: Bureau out here, but wow, listen, layoff. 89 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: Let me let them put the dirt on me before you, 90 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: before you put the thirty. It's been a while though, 91 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: as it's been like two years a minute. 92 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, question for you guys, do you think that Houston 93 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: might be the best defense the Rams face all year? 94 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: And or do you think Houston might be one of 95 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: the most incompetent or dysfunctional offenses the Rams. 96 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: I think that year. 97 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: And the reason I ask is because we're about to 98 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: dig into what conclusions we draw from rams. 99 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: In week one. 100 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 4: I think that defense is legit. I love it. I 101 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 4: love those wide nines. I think they get after you. 102 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 4: I think the best part about Week one was you 103 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 4: played them here. If that was in Houston and they 104 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 4: had the benefit of crowd noise, that could have got ugly. 105 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 4: And they were doing great on the road. So I 106 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 4: think that defense is going to be legit. At some point, 107 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 4: maybe in the next month or so, you'll say, scoring 108 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 4: fourteen points against them. 109 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: Wow, how'd you do that? You know what I mean? Yeah, 110 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 3: So I think that. 111 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 4: But offensively speaking, I still think there but when you 112 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 4: reshuffle your line, and again, if we were sitting in 113 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 4: these seats we were twelve months ago. We did the 114 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 4: same thing in Detroit. We had to make a last 115 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 4: minute line change on the road. 116 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: Houston's experience was like. 117 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 4: The correct same thing. So they're still trying to figure 118 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 4: themselves out offensively. But I think until you get right offensively, 119 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 4: that defense can't carry you. 120 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. I was gonna say to me, it's the front 121 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 3: seven did amazing. 122 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: I thought the back end did well. They just got 123 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: put in some different situations. Having CJ. Gardner Johnson cover 124 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 2: Pukana Kua is not your best match. We don't want 125 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: that match up on the field. But the way those 126 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 2: linebackers are hitting, flying around, the way that d line 127 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 2: was getting after the off to wine a little bit, I. 128 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 3: Mean, that's what you expect. That's a championship defense. That 129 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: defense can. 130 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: Go and win a Super Bowl right with the right 131 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: offense within in special teams and then they're playing at 132 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: a high level right now. You expect that from Demico Ryans. 133 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: I think on the other side, they had opportunity, they 134 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 2: had a great game plan. 135 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 3: I thought overall, they just didn't have their pieces. 136 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 2: They don't have Joe Mixon, right, they don't have Dale Christian, 137 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 2: they didn't have a lot of these guys that can 138 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: go out there and play. And the defensive defense of 139 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: the Rams did what they were supposed to do. 140 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 3: All right. 141 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: So if that does our backdrop kind of a fair 142 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: assessment of the Houston Texans a week one opponent. It's 143 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: time to play the game show that's taking La by storm. 144 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,119 Speaker 1: Since I made it up yesterday over lunch. It's called 145 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: I've seen enough or let's wait and see. Okay, I'm 146 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: gonna have some knee jerk reactions to the Rams Week 147 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: one performance, and I've seen enough in what I'll present 148 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: them or wait and see or wait and see, Okay, 149 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: I want you to digest them, debate them, and decide 150 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: whether you agree with this is estimate or whether it's 151 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: going to take some more time. We have a buzzer, okay, yeah, 152 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: feel free to focus some back as well. All right, 153 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: now I have a few. You want offensive defense, first. 154 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: Defense? 155 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 1: You want one on defense. 156 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: I was gonna say offense, Okay, I was gonna say 157 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 2: special teams. 158 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: Okay, I don't have one team, but let's start on defense. 159 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: Okay. 160 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,799 Speaker 1: The best gift that the Rams got from the Falcons 161 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: this offseason is not the twenty twenty six first round pick. 162 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,119 Speaker 4: Oh I've seen enough. I've seen enough. I've seen enough. 163 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 4: You're talking about Landman, the Landman punch. Yes, if he 164 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 4: can play like that weekend and week out, that was 165 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 4: a great Week one, he's player. 166 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: Of the week right, NFC defensive Player of the week. 167 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 3: Debut tremendous. 168 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 4: And it's not just because of the Landman punch to 169 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 4: get the ball out at the end and a great 170 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 4: job by Braden Fist to scoop that thing up, but 171 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 4: it was the plays before that, how physical he played. 172 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 4: You know, you watch linebackers first, right, you had to 173 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 4: be impressed with how he played the run. It wasn't 174 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 4: even it's the fact that he's your green dot. 175 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:02,239 Speaker 3: Yeah. 176 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: That that right there said enough to me. That he 177 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: was a captain on this team in his first year. 178 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: Told me that that was better than the first round 179 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: pick because he's coming in and he's really the glue 180 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: to this defense. He's gonna get everyone set. Then when 181 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: you watch the game, I mean sideline, the sideline, the turnovers, 182 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: the physically all those things, that's what you're looking for. 183 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: We talked about it during our broadcast. The ability to 184 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: tackle without tackling. None of these guys played in prese 185 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: isn't preseason. I don't think they tackled live in practice 186 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: to the ground. But that defense rallied and he was 187 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: one of the guys that made a ton of tackles 188 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: as well. 189 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: You want to go even bigger on land Man, Go ahead, 190 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: do you have some recent history? 191 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 4: Okay, so being the you keep saying it been around 192 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 4: here a while, right that that might have been the 193 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 4: best inside linebacker performance I've seen in a long time. 194 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 4: And I'm trying to be nice to Bobby Wagner. Bobby 195 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 4: Wagner is going to the Hall of Fame, no question. 196 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 4: But as far as a guy getting downhill, splattering people, 197 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 4: being in the right gaps when you when you hit 198 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 4: running backs, they go back the other way. I haven't 199 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 4: seen that in a long time. I've seen a lot 200 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 4: of linebackers. They play it soft, a little bit, three yards, 201 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 4: four yards, that's fine. 202 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 3: This was attacking. 203 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 4: So if he can play that way from this point on, 204 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 4: absolutely the best thing you got from Atlanta was him. 205 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: Not the picks. 206 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: Well, I will tell you this too. One about Bible. 207 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: He's a tackler. He's not a thumper. He's not gonna 208 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: thump you one and two. We always know. September that's 209 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: when defenses fly around, right and you expect that, And 210 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: so I want to see how he plays in October. 211 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: That's where I'll wait to. 212 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 2: See if he's gonna be that same physical government landman 213 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: in November and December. But right now, this is what 214 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 2: you need, and he's giving you everything you need right now. 215 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: It's Nate Laman, by the way, but he's cool. If 216 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: we lean into the land Man, I know I'm gonna 217 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: stay on defense I'll try and connect this to the 218 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: draft a little bit too. Remember in the spring when 219 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: everyone was flabbergasted that LA didn't draft a corner. Yes, like, wait, 220 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: they're just gonna run it back with that secondary. Well, 221 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: hold on a minute. They did draft a corner. They 222 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: just let the Commanders draft the corner and then they 223 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 1: claimed Emmanuel Fordes off waivers. So he's a starting corner 224 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: that you got for a waiver claim. 225 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 3: Agree or disagree. 226 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: I agree. I thought he did awesome. I thought he 227 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 2: came out and played. Well, you look like you put 228 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: on some weight too, which you know, again, don't go 229 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 2: in there where this is. Don't go in there and 230 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 2: hit them big fellows late, stay out of the way, 231 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: push him to the ground because. 232 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 3: You know we don't need that. But he was showing 233 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 3: his physicality too. 234 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 2: He was where he needed to be to see Darius 235 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: Williams not even played that that That sounds a time. 236 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: It told you a lot, and so that to me, yeah, 237 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: you got a first round pick for a waiver claim, you. 238 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: Got to steal. 239 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 4: Watching him in practice, the guy can absolutely cover. He's 240 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 4: a corner, you know, top flight corner, and you see them. 241 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 4: The one thing that jumps out. Was how skinny he was. 242 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 4: Now he's packed on some weight fifteen seventeen pounds. And 243 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 4: I was impressed with how he stuck his nose in 244 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 4: there on the run. We don't need all that, but 245 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 4: that was the biggest question. Can you seal that edge? 246 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 4: Can you be that guy in this defense? It's required 247 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 4: Like the receivers here, it's it's a requirement to block here. 248 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 4: On defense, you're gonna have to seal the edge and 249 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 4: stick your nose in there, regardless of how your what 250 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 4: your body type is. 251 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 3: So I was very impressed with that. I was watching 252 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 3: ESPN this morning. 253 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 2: Ryan Clark said this, and he said, this is the 254 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: pedigree for great defenses. 255 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 3: Your big guys run and your little guys hit. 256 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 2: That's good. That's what you're getting. And that's what you're 257 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: seeing for the defense. And they have that pedigree, they 258 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: have that culture, and I think that's those are two 259 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: guys we talked about that are new guys that you're 260 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: seeing the culture kind of get in, you know, and 261 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: those guys are playing well. 262 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: All right to offense. Now, either I've seen enough to 263 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: know or let's wait and see. I need to see 264 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: some more. The rams are no longer an eleven personnel offense. 265 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 3: Let's wait and see. I've seen enough. Really, I see 266 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: the twelve. 267 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I think we're gonna start getting thirteen personnel 268 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 2: here pretty soon. Come on, yeah, we gotta find a 269 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: way to get him out there, I thought. I think again, 270 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: the Rams are leaning into and it's becoming a matchup 271 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 2: problem when you're out there in twelve personnel for defenses 272 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 2: to figure out, are we going to be a nickel? 273 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 3: Are we going to be in base? Mm hmm. Right. 274 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 2: If we're in nickel, they're gonna run the ball at 275 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: our slot corner. If we're in base, we're gonna motion 276 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: to titan. Now, why take out your corner and have 277 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 2: Pooka Nakua and another in Devanta Adams running up the 278 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 2: seam on your. 279 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: Linebackers really quick on that. If you want to play 280 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: nickel on your Houston, you can get away with that 281 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: because you've got Petrie like that, big body, and maybe 282 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 1: Philadelphia can do that, but that's not universally the case. 283 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: And that's maybe something to your point that they will 284 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: capitalize on in the running game A bit down the line. 285 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 2: I completely a believe again, you can run the same 286 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: formations out of twelve personnel because you have receivers and 287 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 2: it just puts a defense. 288 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 3: In a mind. And then this is the other thing. 289 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 3: Tight ends are the biggest mismatch on the field. 290 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: They're bigger than most linebackers or fashion and most linebackers, 291 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: and bigger than most corners and safeties. 292 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 3: How are you going to stop that? 293 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 4: Although I would say this, we would used to say 294 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 4: linebackers are now blown up safeties. I think safeties have 295 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 4: become miniature linebackers will everything's changing. So I would say 296 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 4: twelve personnel versus the Texans with wide nines actually makes sense. 297 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 4: But this is Sean McVay we are talking about, right, guys. 298 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 3: You know he's going to go. 299 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 2: Back to eleven, so real quick on that guy. That's 300 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 2: his favorite number. You know this right. 301 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: I know there's a comment, a question out there somewhere, 302 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: where's two two outwall? You paid two twelve to ten 303 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: million dollars. I don't think last week was a two 304 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: two outwall game for a number of reasons last week, 305 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: But I still think when he was on the field, 306 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: he impacted throwing lanes and winning, and I think it's. 307 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 3: That's where I'm going. Yes, there's going to be a 308 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: plan for him. 309 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: Yes, quarterback or receiver next, let's two receiver. Okay, let's 310 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: let's save mister sixty thousand. I've seen enough, or let's 311 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: wait and see. Davante Adams is exactly what the Rams 312 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: needed for twenty twenty five and he is still a 313 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: dude ready. 314 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 2: I've seen enough. 315 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 3: I've seen enough. 316 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: I've seen enough, but I want to see more though, 317 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,599 Speaker 2: I want to Yeah, seen enough, but I want to 318 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 2: see more. And the reason is I thought the back 319 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 2: shoulder catch was more than enough. Like that against that 320 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: kid where you don't touch him and you put it 321 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 2: right there. 322 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 3: That's I've seen enough. But also I want to see. 323 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: Him more involved in the game plan a little bit more, 324 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 2: catching more routes than just like out or hitches or 325 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: things like that. I want to see him on the 326 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 2: move a little bit more and do certain things like that. 327 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 1: But that had to be the most impactful handful of catches, 328 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: handful of yards game I've seen from a receiver in 329 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: a long time. Like he took one of the best 330 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: corners in the league and said, you and me over 331 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: here and the rest of the guys are gonna play 332 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: ten on. 333 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 2: Ten and still have fun. 334 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's gonna be great things for Puka, who 335 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: had ten for one thirty and thirty eight snaps, and 336 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: he lined up in the slot sixty four percent of 337 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: the time, more than he has throughout his entire career. 338 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 4: You could see the game plan. I'm still shocked. You 339 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 4: couldn't see the push off from Devonte. I didn't see 340 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 4: the pus. Did you see it? Everybody in the world 341 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 4: saw it. I don't see the push off level seven. 342 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 4: It was clean, really okay, it was so clear in 343 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 4: the corner. 344 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 2: It was very professional. If you don't see it, you 345 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: can't call it. But it was there. 346 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 4: But that's beautiful when you take that guy out and 347 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 4: you can beat him on that route. He and and 348 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 4: how I knew it wasn't that big of a deal 349 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 4: because the corner didn't go like this. 350 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: It was so quick. So yeah, to me, that's not 351 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: a push off. The corner put his hands up like 352 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: he did, that's a push off. 353 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: He did put a cup on the ground that he 354 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: probably would tell you he should catch, but the one 355 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: he plucked off the turf to get down to get 356 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: that third down that turned into David's house. We might 357 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: be talking completely differently here today. If he didn't make that. 358 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 4: I was impressed with the first one, the hit he 359 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 4: took and got, yeah, man, that was a that's a 360 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 4: kill shot, and got right up and pointed for the 361 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 4: first down. I thought that said a lot. 362 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: Now, I want to be cleared. DeVante recently has been 363 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: killing it in the slot too, and if you put 364 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: him in motion, I think good outcomes can follow. However, 365 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: one of the first things that I think we said 366 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: back in the spring was watch how little he's in motion. 367 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: That was my hunch. My intuition is that you got 368 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: a true X that you can that you can just 369 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: trust to win against any coverage. And in the meantime, 370 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: guess who's free to roam pooka or you can send 371 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: your tight end to flip the strength or in that 372 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: blast motion like Cooper cup was running miles, so he 373 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: was running marathons pre snap in the last couple of years, 374 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: that's no longer the case. It's a different structure, and 375 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: I think it sets up well in terms of Marion 376 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: running pass together. Like we saw in that final sequence. 377 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,359 Speaker 1: How devastating was that final. 378 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: Sea poss That was unbelievable. 379 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: Three identical looks and on third down you throw it. 380 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: To Pooka ran the first the first play, on the 381 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: second play you had eight yards and I think like 382 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: seven yards, and then you come in off a play 383 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 2: action pass, have him to the flat tight and every 384 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: everything looks the same ball game game. 385 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: I can't believe we've gone this far without mentioning QB 386 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: one because obviously he dominated the summer in our show 387 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: last week. So here's one more for you. On offense, 388 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: I've seen enougher. Let's wait and see. Matthew Stafford is 389 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: still the best quarterback in the NFC. 390 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 3: I've seen enough. 391 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: He's you have to make two or three throws a 392 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: game that that most guys can't make. I'm gonna give 393 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 2: you the three that I say that Poola, the two 394 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: to pook up the scene, and then the back shoulder 395 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 2: to Devonte those are those are the that throw he 396 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: made to Pooka with Gardner Johnson covering him where he's 397 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: like he's looking this way and he flipped it that way. 398 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: And then the first one where he just right it 399 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: was up and over the linebacker. 400 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 3: That ball. 401 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: I coached high school football, watch a lot of college 402 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: watch pros. 403 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 3: Obviously that pass. 404 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 2: Is the hardest pass to throw, where you have to 405 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: get it up and over at eighteen yards before that 406 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 2: safety gets there. 407 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: That's the hardest throws, especially if you're rusty or you 408 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: don't feel great. It wasn't the box score that made 409 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: me say that with confidence. It was the way he 410 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: went out there with a termination and a chip on 411 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: his shoulder and played fearless football like he said he 412 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: was going to. 413 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 4: I'm gonna respectfully say I'm gonna wait and see, because 414 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 4: right before we started this, I was watching Eagles tape 415 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 4: and watching Jalen Hurts pull one down and scrabble for 416 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 4: a touchdown and then flip to that Jayden Daniels, who 417 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 4: is getting better. So I don't think the NFC has 418 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 4: decided as far as arm talent and what he can 419 00:16:55,400 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 4: do from the pocket, absolut freaking lutely, no doubt. We'll 420 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 4: see if that's gonna be enough to get you through 421 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 4: the NFC. But as of right now. 422 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 2: He's one of could be absolutely so I'll say I'll 423 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 2: wait and see. I will say, too, lack of mobility 424 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: in the NFC is going to hurt you eventually, right, 425 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 2: because that's what helped the Eagles beat the Cowboys was 426 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: literally Jalen hurts the everyone's covered, there's no to throw to. 427 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 2: He runs fines to guess what save CJ. Stroud finding 428 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 2: a way out. 429 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: Yes, that's gonna be especially pertinent as we talk about 430 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: the matchup with the Titans, which I promise is coming up. 431 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: But since you asked for special teams, here's one more 432 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: for you. This kicking game is suddenly as good as 433 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: it's been since Matt Gay left, or Bones Fossil left, 434 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: or you pick your point in time. 435 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 3: But I would say two thousand. 436 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 2: I would say the best kicking game I thought we 437 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: had was when we went to New Orleans and won 438 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 2: the NFC Championship game. 439 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I thought that was the height of our kicks. 440 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: Greg Zuerline, Yeah, I mentioned Bones Fossil because he's in 441 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: Nashville with Johnny Hecker. Now, so we're gonna see this. 442 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say I've seen enough. I know Ethan Evans. 443 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 4: It's kickoffs, punts give you what you need. Either he 444 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 4: could flip field position or he's pretty good at placing 445 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 4: the football. 446 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 3: And I think. 447 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 4: Cardi's gotten a whole lot better, or I think we 448 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 4: haven't we've just barely scratched the surface on how he's 449 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,719 Speaker 4: going to do these kickoffs. I think he's really going 450 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 4: to be a problem with these dynamic kickoffs. So and 451 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 4: I think he's pretty good from fifty plus. 452 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: You can hit from fifty seven and fifty eight against 453 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: the Seahawks last year at season's end, so. 454 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 4: You feel pretty good about his accuracy. I think the 455 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 4: snaps are there, so I've seen enough. I think this 456 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 4: battery is as good as we've seen around here. 457 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: And we talk about limiting a Houston offense to nine points, 458 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: no touchdowns, a drive that didn't reach any farther than 459 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: the fifteen yard line, like those long fields that you're 460 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: setting up where they start from their twenty instead of 461 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: their thirty five. It's a big deal. 462 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 3: That is a big deal, I would say too. 463 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 2: We talked about like I think he's become a weapon, 464 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 2: that the kicking game has become a weapon because now 465 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 2: I can be aggressive if I want to when we 466 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: get offensively, once we get past the fifty, knowing that 467 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: I have an opportunity to still have a field goals made. 468 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 2: But then also if we do stumble, have a pun 469 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 2: that can flip field position in the heart immediately. 470 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: Let's talk Titans and Rams pick a side of the ball. 471 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: We'll talk matchups first. 472 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 3: I'm worried about mister Simmons. Man. 473 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: It is a bad stretch of the season to be 474 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: dinged up at guard. 475 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 3: Bro Dude is huge. 476 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 4: He's a monster. Even if you weren't dinged up, you'd 477 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 4: have problems slowing him down. I do think this like Davante, 478 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 4: even if he doesn't get the rock, it doesn't mean 479 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 4: you covered him, you know what I mean. 480 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: The ball just didn't get to him. 481 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 4: I don't think there is a guard in the league 482 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 4: that can handle this guy one on one at all. 483 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 4: He's just got He's so big, he's so strong, He's 484 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 4: got a myriad of moves he can throw at you. 485 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 3: He's gonna be a problem this Sunday. 486 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 2: Do you remember when they drafted him, he had a 487 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 2: torn in cl in the first round. That should tell 488 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 2: you all you need to know right about Jeffers disqualify. 489 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: Whatever I didn't know then, after seeing what he did 490 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:53,959 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one and that no win November Man, forever, 491 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: We'll have my respect. 492 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: That's not my fear. 493 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 3: He's legit. 494 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: Yes, So if Carter's coming down the pike in week three. 495 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: Don't overlook this channel. 496 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: No, no, no, he's he is very similar to Carter, 497 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 2: if not, I would say possibly better. 498 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,719 Speaker 3: I was a little older, but they the Titan. When 499 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 3: you watch their defense. 500 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 2: One first and foremost, shout out to my guy, Brian Callahans, 501 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 2: my old high school and. 502 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 3: College. He went to UCLA before me. 503 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: And and but neither nor they're not your cousin though, right, No, no, 504 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: not my cos. 505 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 3: That's my that's my dog. Here's my brother from David's South. 506 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 2: Okay, he has some things he has to do offensively, 507 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 2: and this defense is going to have to carry him. 508 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 2: Right And so speaking of Jeffrey Simmons, that's the key 509 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 2: to this defense. If you can get four hands on 510 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: him or four eyes on him, the other guys kind of. 511 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 3: Play towards us. You got to kind of limit him. 512 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 3: But if you don't, if you let him get going, oh, 513 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 3: then everyone gets going. 514 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: And that's the problem. That's how you beat them. It's 515 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 2: like you got to limit his opportunities to make plays. 516 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 2: How do you do that? 517 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 4: Well, I think you have to move the pocket. If 518 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 4: you're going to throw the football, sometimes you're gonna have 519 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 4: to challenge him. 520 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 3: It is what it is, is football. 521 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 4: But if you're going to get those half rolls, keep 522 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford as far away from him as possible and 523 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 4: keep two bodies on him. You got to bring the 524 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 4: tackle down, bring the center back, just keep him getting back. Yeah, 525 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 4: and frustrate him, just like Matthew Stafford did the Texans. 526 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 4: Even when they got good, a good rush, a good 527 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 4: get off, the ball was already gone. So by the 528 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 4: time you're done with your first move, you're in pursuit already. 529 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 4: That drives you nuts. Do the same thing to him. 530 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 4: But if you get caught in those if you're making 531 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 4: mistakes on first down, if you're behind the chains and 532 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 4: you get caught in a third and a mile and 533 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 4: you need to have it. I mean, that's instant pressure 534 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 4: right into the face of your quarterback that we just 535 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 4: said doesn't like to run. 536 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 3: It can be a Screens are gonna go quicker receiver. 537 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 3: Screens are gonna be huge. 538 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: Getting him out outside, let him run and chase get downhill, 539 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 2: get four hands on him some downhill runs where you're 540 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: double team and keep testing them with the run game. 541 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, keep them honest. 542 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: They led the NFL with four takeaways in Denver, two 543 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: interceptions of force fumble, recovered a muff punt. They also 544 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: had two takeaways on down So to your point about 545 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: maybe this being a defensive driven team until cam Ward 546 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: gets locked in and they can up around him, it 547 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: seems like they were up to that task. And maybe 548 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: they're a little underrated defensively. 549 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 3: Oh, no question. 550 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 2: I mean they were banged up last year, but like 551 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 2: I said, they have guys the corners are I would 552 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 2: say they're above average. 553 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: You know what's interesting to that point is Lugerious Sneed 554 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: sounds like he's on a pitch count coming off. 555 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: Of that quad last year. 556 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: He didn't play a full snapload, but played well last week, 557 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: and he's actually had some great head to head history 558 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: against Avante. Yes, so I'm curious. 559 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 3: Do they got Stafford throwing the ball he had Aaron Rodgers? 560 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:31,959 Speaker 2: I'm just checkmate. 561 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: Do teams have any interest in traveling the way that 562 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: Houston did last week or was that unique to their guy? 563 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 2: No, I think they'll travel them. I mean they paid 564 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: him to travel, to be honest. I mean that that's 565 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: what he did in Kansas City as well. So if 566 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 2: you're playing this game, of chess, I'm gonna put my 567 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,959 Speaker 2: best corner on on your best guy to stop him. 568 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 2: The key is gonna be who's gonna cover Pooka, right, 569 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 2: And we've always talked about this, what the Rams have 570 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 2: the Queen. If we're talking chess, the Queen pieces Pooka 571 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 2: because he's bigger than every corner that he's gonna go against. 572 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: He's stronger than most of those guys, and to get 573 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: him to run on those safeties and corners consistently will. 574 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 3: Help your offense. 575 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: Speaking of Puka, I did hear from from our fan 576 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: base a little concern maybe that teams are head hunting Puka, 577 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: that he's got a target on his back coming into 578 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: year three. 579 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 2: Was that, I don't know head hunting. I think you're 580 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 2: as a huge sensor back. 581 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 3: Houston's just a different team. 582 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 4: They were bringing it, they were they were hitting hard 583 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 4: like every like the Rams defense was. But I think 584 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 4: with guys like Puka, going back to hines Ward, it's 585 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 4: it's almost like you have to protect yourself against them 586 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 4: because of how they play. Because if you don't, if 587 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 4: you come up and you attack Puka high, like taking 588 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 4: DK Metcalf wrong, you're gonna get flat run over and 589 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 4: if he lines you up the right way, you're gonna 590 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 4: get hurt. So I think most of this is respecting 591 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 4: how he plays. You gotta play hard or he's gonna 592 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 4: bounce off. 593 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 2: I got a chance to talk to Henry Totoe after 594 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: the game. We'll talk to his dad, and he was like, 595 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 2: he's bigger than me. I can't take him on like 596 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 2: I would take on a receiver. I have to take 597 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 2: him on like a bigger back. You gotta hit him. 598 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 2: You gotta go and hit him. And that's just what happens. 599 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 2: You have a when you're again two hundred and twenty five, 600 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty pound guy, like they're gonna hit 601 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 2: you as such. Right if you're one hundred and eighty pounds, 602 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 2: they'll probably grab you and throw you around. But you 603 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 2: can't grab pook and throw them me too strong, So 604 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: you got to come in there with some force and 605 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 2: to be honest, when you're one of the best. 606 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 3: Players in the league. That's what happens. 607 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 2: When if you're going across the middle, guys try to 608 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 2: get at you a little bit, and that's part of 609 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 2: the game. 610 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: Can I go back to your point about Houston being 611 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: able and willing to match a twelve personnel with base 612 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: am I being an apologist by saying, Okay, the running 613 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: game for LA didn't get off the ground in week 614 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: one because they had extra linebackers and big safeties and 615 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: they had their box count ride and so Sean McVay 616 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: and Matthew Stafford just choose to attack them through the air. 617 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 2: Well, you pick and choose, right, are you gonna be 618 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 2: heavy against the run? If you want to, then we'll 619 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: we'll we'll tack you up in there. If you want 620 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 2: to be light against the run, we'll run the ball. 621 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: And that's the game. That's the game. 622 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: But he's so concerned about the lack of rushing results 623 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: in week one. 624 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 2: Necessary No, because Houston's really good, and I think we 625 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 2: don't we're not giving them enough credit for what they done, 626 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: what they've built there, and what they've done the last 627 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: couple of years. Defensively, I thought the game plan was 628 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 2: to tack them up the seams off of play action, 629 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,239 Speaker 2: and that's what they did. So they got their big 630 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 2: chunk plays and that's how you do it. 631 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 1: What about your level of concern when what sixty percent 632 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: of the Rams offensive line is nursing an ankle injury 633 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: as we record the show on Thursday's Game week scary. 634 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 4: That's I guess the downside of not really going hard 635 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 4: or playing in preseason. You don't really develop that callous 636 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 4: So the first three weeks of the regular season is 637 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 4: getting into football shape. So I did worry about that 638 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 4: when you left the game in so far against the Texans, 639 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 4: hard hitting and you're left with bumps and bruises. Now 640 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 4: you've got to get ready to go play Tennessee. Can 641 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 4: you retool and regroup fast enough to do that? So 642 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 4: it is a concern, but at least you're going to 643 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 4: have the same group. We hope you're not really replacing 644 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 4: people as of right now. 645 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: It is a matchup of quarterbacks taking number one overall 646 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: about a generation of part Matthew Stafford now sixty thousand 647 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: yards strong and cam Ward set for his home debut. 648 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: It was the worst offensive showing in the league in 649 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: Week one just about any metric you look at, and 650 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: I've I don't think I've ever seen as an admired 651 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: or beloved a six sack, no touchdown, one hundred and 652 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: twelve yard passing performance as I've seen and heard about 653 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: from cam Ward. The tape is telling a different story 654 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: than the box score. Apparently, what say you? 655 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 2: I agree, it's tough that you got to go against 656 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: Denver week one. It was probably, if not the best, 657 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 2: one of the top three defense in the NFL last 658 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 2: year with the defensive player of the Year at corner. 659 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 2: So that shuts out half of the field guys that 660 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: can get to the quarterback. And then it sucks that 661 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 2: you have to double back and go against the Rams 662 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 2: who have this young defensive line that flies around and 663 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 2: gets after you. Right so, and that's the NFL. And 664 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 2: I think for him, he made some really good throws. 665 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: They had a ton of drops. He had some really 666 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 2: good throws. He sat in the pocket, He never panicked. 667 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: He was that guy that you saw at Miami, the 668 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 2: confident guy that sits in the pocket, will make throws. 669 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 2: If he has to get out, he will try to 670 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 2: get out. And I think that's where him a little bit. 671 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 2: That he scrambled and tried to do like some stuff 672 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 2: that he did in college, and he got sacked a 673 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 2: couple of times for some big losses. 674 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 3: But you know, you got to learn from that. I 675 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 3: think that he has his skill set. 676 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 2: He made I mean there was one throw I think 677 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 2: a guy was going from left to right and he 678 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 2: threw it over two guys. 679 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 3: It hit him right in the hands. I mean, if 680 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 3: it was an arrow, it probably would have killed him. 681 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: What hurt is It was Calvin Ridley. It was his 682 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: number one who was putting balls. 683 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's what he does that. Sometimes he'll have 684 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 2: the drops here and there. But it was another kid though, 685 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 2: And I mean that ball is probably the best ball 686 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 2: thrown all all week and it just and so you 687 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 2: got to help your young quarterback out. Is that the 688 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 2: one that got his dad out of a seat? 689 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 3: That was Calvin Ridley? The one he was wide op. 690 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 2: You can't do that, dad. You gotta have a poker face. 691 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 2: But I'd say this, you got. 692 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 3: To do that. I'm LeVar Ballet, I'm on the sideline. 693 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 4: You're there, You're going crazy, Okay, But it's it's like 694 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 4: when you have a young quarterback, usually the offense, depending 695 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 4: on what team you are, like Minnesota, the offense maybe 696 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 4: ahead of the young quarterback. I think this is the opposite. 697 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 4: I think he was actually more ready to play than 698 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 4: the rest of the guys out there. So eventually they're 699 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 4: going to get on the same page. Hopefully it won't 700 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 4: be this week. 701 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: Quick word on their offensive line, Dan Moore was their 702 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: big investment at left tackle right You had to pay 703 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: a premium to get offensive line help this offseason. They 704 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: did first return not great in Denver. Their center Kushionbery 705 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,959 Speaker 1: coming off an injury, really important piece. Right tackle seems 706 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: to be the injury report to watch this week. A 707 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: hip injury for JC Latham. That's a big matchup against 708 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: the Rams. Edges whether or not he can go both sides, 709 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: both organizations dealing with offensive line question marks and health 710 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,479 Speaker 1: concerns going into this match up. 711 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 3: Still surprised he's on the right. The Alabama kid. 712 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm still surprised he's over there. He's three pounds huge. 713 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 4: I swear when you look at him on tape, he 714 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 4: doesn't look that big, no, which means that just really 715 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 4: really in shape. I'm surprised he's over there. But again, 716 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 4: I think the offense is a work in progress. I 717 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 4: think this offensive line might be a little bit better 718 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 4: than people give. 719 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 3: It credit for. 720 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 4: And you know, depending on how the Rams play, if 721 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 4: they can carry over from what they did versus the 722 00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 4: Texans into Tennessee. 723 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 3: I have no doubts. 724 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 4: But if you take a step back, this offensive line, 725 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 4: with the way it's constructed and the way it could 726 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 4: come together, could give you some fits. 727 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say this for all our fans the NFC. 728 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: The way the NFC is built compared the way the 729 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: AFC's built, the NFC is more slender like outside zone. 730 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 2: When you talk about the AFC, you're talking about cold 731 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 2: weather places where it's downhill football, so you have bigger linemen, 732 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 2: bigger bodies. 733 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 3: You think of Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Tennessee. 734 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 2: Latham would be the right tackle, he would be the 735 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: left tackle, but they couldn't find a right tackle in 736 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 2: free agency. They felt comes enough of paying, so they 737 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 2: had to go get Dan Moore, who's preat down with 738 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: a left tackle. 739 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 3: So that's why he's there seventh overall at the right. 740 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 3: That's crazy. 741 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 2: Well, they wanted to move in the left where they 742 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 2: just couldn't find a guy to pay, which you have to, 743 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 2: you know, But I will say that's a concern because 744 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 2: they are they're gonna be bigger than our guys. 745 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: If he goes right. If he doesn't, I think that 746 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: puts a dent in their hopes of moving the chains 747 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: with a running game that still has a lot of 748 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,719 Speaker 1: question marks? Does that change the dynamic for you? 749 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 3: Oh? 750 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, If he's not there, it's gonna be a problem. Okay, 751 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 2: you're gonna have two weeks of guys shuffling guys around. 752 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 3: You saw Houston. 753 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 2: They tried to get their running game going, and they 754 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: felt comfortable at times, but it was like a guy 755 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 2: would miss make a mistake here, miss a block there. 756 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 3: You'll see that again. Yeah. 757 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: It feels like maybe the most obvious key to this 758 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: game is which which running game, Which offensive line can 759 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: take some of the pressure off its passing game, and 760 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: its quarterback steal some hits off of him by moving 761 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: the chains with chunk plays in the running game an 762 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: efficient running game, especially for Tennessee. That seems to be 763 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: the case. But I do see shades of Matthew Stafford 764 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: and young cam Ward two the way that you described him, 765 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: pocket manipulation, willing to read it out, take the hit, 766 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: make big time throws tough, tough. Yeah, looking forward to 767 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: seeing him. Other thoughts on that matchup before I spin 768 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: it forward? 769 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 3: Let me see if I can get it. 770 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: Where do you go? 771 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 3: Tayler Davis? Wow? 772 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 2: Where do you get the sack, big. 773 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: Fellou fist calling his shot. Remember, Brandon told us during 774 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: training camp that Tyler Davis was like the unsung hero 775 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: of that defense, and he shows up with his first 776 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: full sack in week one. 777 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 4: Dude, you have a a dearth of good interior defense 778 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 4: alignment and that should make you more multiple and unpredictable 779 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 4: if you're Chris Shulan, because you can line those guys 780 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 4: up anywhere and in different combinations, and then sprinkle in 781 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 4: all those edge rushers plus Stuart off the edge. He 782 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 4: looks like he's been here for a while, like it's 783 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 4: not too big for him. Yeah, that's another guy that 784 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 4: can give Byron Young or Jared versus a chance to 785 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 4: catch your breath and not lose a step on the field. 786 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 3: I thought that was a tremendous. 787 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: Question for you with the addition of Puniford and Tyler 788 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: Davis in your two. Is that part of why we 789 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: saw branden Fisk widening out his alignments. 790 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 4: Somebody's got to bump out if you've got Poona and 791 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 4: Tyler Devi And they had both of those guys, those 792 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 4: big dudes, Poona and Tyler Davis in the A gaps 793 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 4: and they went nowhere. They went nowhere, So Braden Fisk 794 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 4: has to be put somewhere. So put them out at end. 795 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 4: So you have a interior guy playing out over the 796 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 4: tackle on a rundown. Oh that's a win for us. 797 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 4: That's a win for the Rams. And then he led 798 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 4: the team in sacks. He's a pass rush threat. So 799 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 4: I think you have a lot of good interior guys 800 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 4: that you can move around, which should make you very 801 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 4: very hard to predict on game day. 802 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 2: It's kind of like a running back by committee when 803 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 2: you have a multiple guys that can rush the quarterback 804 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 2: and you can just throw waves at people like, oh, 805 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 2: here'll give you this matchup this week. Up, we're gonna 806 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 2: do this that. Oh, and the in the game, we're 807 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 2: gonna flip and go to this. It just puts because 808 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 2: offensive linemen have to study each pass rusher because each 809 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 2: passers have had certain things they do well. If I 810 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 2: have to switch, if I'm going against Fisk or Puna Ford, 811 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 2: I have to play that different, right, So now I 812 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 2: have to mentally, I have to You're I'm making these 813 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,479 Speaker 2: offensive linemen think not only just what play they have 814 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 2: or if it's a pass play, but how am I 815 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 2: going to set this guy. Is it strong? And you 816 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: do have to be more for a nest. It just 817 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 2: plays mind games when you have a ton of guys 818 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 2: that can rush. 819 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 3: This a game bowl for player that can. 820 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 2: I give this the bowl, Lummer, get it. 821 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, you start at as the backup and you wind 822 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 4: up as the starting left guard, and then you play 823 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 4: go forward to the other guard. 824 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks better in the run game than in 825 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: pass pro. 826 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 2: Is that's fair? Not fair? Definitely? Doesn't that track from 827 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 2: last season as well? Yeah? 828 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, especially presstonto duty as opposed to being part of 829 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: the game plan and that and your offense be built 830 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: around what you know you're getting. 831 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 4: Yes, I think this week it might be smart to 832 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 4: keep up a few more guards just in case. 833 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: Interesting whereas you had both reserved tackles available last week, well, 834 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: I mean it's good to know what you have in 835 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: alert Jackson. I mean that was as much as we 836 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: talked about Matthew Stafford playing strong and playing to his 837 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: form in week one, that was equally important. Right, your 838 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: left tackle showing. 839 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 3: Up didn't have to call his name one time. That's right, 840 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 3: this is what he does. We talked about. 841 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 2: It was it was it this this all season about 842 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 2: how important it was getting him locked in. 843 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: Because that was step one was renewing vows with Stafford 844 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: and then right neck. 845 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 3: You got to get him. 846 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, ver thing Man probably the most underrated offensive lineman 847 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 2: in the NFL. 848 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 3: What he's been able to do. 849 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 2: It brought me back to just saying that brought me 850 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 2: back to him against Miles Garrett when he had when 851 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 2: he had the help make stuck. Yeah, I was frustrated 852 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 2: too if I was Miles because he was getting clamped up. 853 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 2: And that's what you get, like, that's you don't find 854 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 2: those guys all the time. 855 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 3: That's an undrafted guy. 856 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: You got Just looking down the schedule this week, some 857 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: interesting games. You got the DK metcalf for contests. Pittsburgh's 858 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: got a chance to send the Seahawks to zero and 859 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: two our super Bowl coordinators and meeting in Minneapolis. KOC 860 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 1: and the Vikings with a new quarterback against Rohie Morris 861 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: and the Falcons. 862 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 3: That's gonna be fun. 863 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: Arizona chance to start quickly again. What else is new? 864 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,919 Speaker 1: Top half of their schedule is always seemingly successful. They've 865 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 1: got Carolina at home after beating New Orleans, so Arizona 866 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: could be two and zero. Here's another I've seen enough 867 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: or whatever it was, Who cares, stupid game. Arizona is 868 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: the biggest challenger to LA in the West. 869 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 2: I need to see more. 870 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:35,919 Speaker 3: I do. 871 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 4: Kyler Murray is he's the King of September and that 872 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 4: I mean that with all sincerity. He always looks good, 873 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 4: he looks dangerous, and then something happens. 874 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 3: He's so disrespectful and that's what he went to say. 875 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 2: It was no disrespect right, you go to disrespect him? 876 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 2: I get it. They I I think last year I 877 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 2: was more concerned about Arizona than I am this year. 878 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 2: No way, because they're not as physical, they're not as 879 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 2: thirteen like I didn't. They were running the ball, but 880 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 2: it was it didn't look like the team that we 881 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 2: saw last year in this time like last like we 882 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 2: played them this week it was forty forty to zero, like, 883 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 2: oh we have a problem, Like this team doesn't look 884 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 2: like that. 885 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,760 Speaker 1: I think their defenses for real, though. 886 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 3: It's better, you're supposed to treat the norms like that. 887 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: Though okayre too. Yes, I'm just saying be careful with Arizona. 888 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 3: The corners are legit. The Michigan Corners legit, Yeah, for sure. 889 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: Before we get to Philly, Philly has to go to 890 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: Kansas City. Kansas City needs a win coming back from 891 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: Brazil at zho to one. 892 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 3: Without a receiver, beat them all up. 893 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 4: Yes, I'm hoping for double ot in that game on 894 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 4: triple Yes, keep going. 895 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: And then I'm really curious to see how Houston bounces 896 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 1: back at home against an NFC contender in Tampa Bay. 897 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: That's one of those early season games that could have real, big, 898 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: outsized implications in the NFC playoff picture at the end. 899 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 2: Do you want to know what's funny? Tampa just knows 900 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 2: how to beat certain people. They have Philly's number. Philly 901 00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 2: doesn't want to play Tampa ever. 902 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:00,919 Speaker 3: They don't. 903 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 2: Detroit doesn't want to play Tampa ever either. For whatever reason, 904 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 2: the Rams love Tampa. Yeah, And it's just one of 905 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 2: those things where like I don't know, and I'll say this, 906 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this on TV tonight, but Green Bay 907 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 2: is gonna win the North. You think it's over, You've 908 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 2: seen enough. 909 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 3: I've seen it already. 910 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 2: It's just one is. 911 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 3: That how much before week one? 912 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: But how much of that is them? 913 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 2: Right? 914 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: Is Micah and what's already there. How much of that 915 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: is who first return on the rest of that division. 916 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: You're anticipating the Detroit step back. 917 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 2: Well, this is I would say seventy thirty seventy percent 918 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 2: of everyone else, thirty percent of green Bay and the 919 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 2: reason being. The reason being is Detroit lost all their coordinators. 920 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 2: They don't look like they're in sync, which. 921 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: It might be a week one overreaction. 922 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 2: It could be. It could be, but you just don't know, 923 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 2: Like they just didn't look good right, and green Bay 924 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 2: handled them. Then in Minnesota that was kind of like that. 925 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 2: That whole game was kind of like, who's gonna make 926 00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 2: the play to win this thing? Because we neither of 927 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 2: those one of us mistakes there was once to win 928 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 2: this We're just we're gonna run an r PO or 929 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 2: read option in our. 930 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,399 Speaker 3: Quarterbacks and are like, good play. 931 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was, but it's just like two young quarterbacks 932 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 2: still learning. And then you have another organ another organ Detroit. 933 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 2: They just they got a lot of turnover and it's 934 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 2: not like the turnover here. They lost eight coaches. Think 935 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 2: about that a culture change. It's a culture change. 936 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: It's a pretty big week one head to head to 937 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: put in your pocket. Too, Yes, anything else, I'm done. 938 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 2: Let me I've seen here. 939 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 3: I need to talk to No, I have one more 940 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,879 Speaker 3: thing today. I have one more thing to say. 941 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,879 Speaker 2: I'm still waiting for our We're we're waiting for Kira 942 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 2: not to take every snap. 943 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we're still waiting. This just hasn't happened yet. 944 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: Can I sorry you brought something else that I wanted 945 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: to ask. There's a discrepancy between how he's graded in 946 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: past protection and what we feel and we see every week. 947 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: Like the reason why he doesn't give way is because 948 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: he takes care of business back there and cleans up pockets. 949 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: At least I think that's. 950 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 3: What we missed one. He missed one in Houston. 951 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: He missed it or he was late scanning over. 952 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 2: No, no, the late scanning over one and the problem 953 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 2: that was fine, That wasn't the issue. It was the 954 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 2: one where the guy came up in the a gap 955 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 2: and he cut up great. I'm just saying that. 956 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: I think part of the reason, maybe even the biggest 957 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: reason why he's in there down in is because he's 958 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: the one you can trust, especially in the reguard. But 959 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 1: like PFF or whatever, they don't give him his due 960 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: and pass pro So where's the truth? 961 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think no, I think it's more on our side. 962 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 2: I will say he the one where he came late. 963 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 2: He wanted to go right away, but like he hesitated, 964 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:32,760 Speaker 2: and so Stafford's dropping. 965 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 3: You have to. 966 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 2: Now I don't want to get in the quarterbacks drop right, 967 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 2: But I don't know how many times have we seen 968 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 2: Kyron just create the pocket right by blocking and yet 969 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 2: and so that to me more on that than I 970 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 2: do what I saw in Houston. 971 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 1: I do also really like the screen game, the hints 972 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,439 Speaker 1: of an emerging screen game that we saw in week one, 973 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: including the one the Parkinson that got put on the ground. 974 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: Like I consider that part of you know, the tight 975 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,359 Speaker 1: end delay. I think that's part of the portfolio, and 976 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 1: that it hit it turned into a fumble, unfortunately because 977 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,399 Speaker 1: you know their linebacker. Great play, But I do like that. 978 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 1: Hopefully coming back to life here in twenty five. All right, 979 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 1: safe travels to Nashville, see you guys there week two, 980 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 1: a chance to get to two and zero. Thank you 981 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: as always for being with us, for between the horns 982 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: presented by your Southern California to deal