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Speaker 1: She spent about twenty thousand dollars on her wedding. It

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Speaker 1: No, food was not included in this wedding.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, were they getting like a kickback on the food?

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Speaker 1: Like they hire a food truck and they're like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you can sell the food to them, but we're going

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Speaker 2: On another twenty thirty percent on top. Oh my god,

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Speaker 3: Whatever you wanted getting ideas?

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Speaker 2: Are you trying to profit from your wedding? Monetize wedding too, entrepreneur,

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Speaker 1: That's right. They didn't even get any cake since the

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Speaker 2: What were they spending twenty thousand dollars on.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's many things, limos, thrones, doves, doves, suits, dresses,

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Speaker 1: basically went to her dress, venue and photos. I know

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Speaker 1: is Op the Ahle? Is Op the a hole? And

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Speaker 2: I mean, weddings are expensive, so I'm not gonna like

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Speaker 1: So if I say you're a stupid poopoo face and

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Speaker 1: Well, so, but what are you just going to say no?

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Speaker 2: I don't but I don't think that would happen. It's

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Speaker 1: Let me paint you a picture, Sam, paint me a

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Speaker 2: Different priorities than me. That's what I would assume, And

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Speaker 1: Sure it's the but there's but some people help and

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Speaker 1: You could say, uh, hey, like I I want to

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Speaker 2: Got it covered. I don't worry about it. Just enjoy.

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Speaker 2: You don't need to say. You don't need to say

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Speaker 2: what if if she, if she accepts it at face value?

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Speaker 1: The Sam and John disagreement. Yeah, the two sides. I

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Speaker 1: love it. Well, we got some relevant comments. Annual Suggestion

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Speaker 2: If you spent spend if you if you spend it

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Speaker 2: not at like wedding venues, it ends up being a

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying. Like, so they had twenty K and

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Speaker 2: Chose wedding venues which are like four times the price

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like wedding on a beach? Are you kidding me? Gargeous? Gargeous.

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Speaker 1: joke in my family. Edit. I googled photographers in my

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Speaker 1: area around five grand to seven grand to start. Opie

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably, but what six grand on, six grand on

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Speaker 1: It almost seems like because it adds up quick. Well,

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Speaker 3: I just realized something, what wedding venues are going to

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Speaker 2: The wedding industry is gonna crumble except in Provo, Utah.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's true.

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Speaker 1: Big facts, They're just gonna boom, you know, become monop

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Speaker 1: you never out of work, never run infinite work. Great point,

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Speaker 1: simple Status fifteen replies, Then okay, but why didn't you

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Speaker 1: Opie responds, seriously, I didn't think a twenty seven year

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Speaker 1: pretty dumb. Let's go hell, yeah, I didn't plan this

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Speaker 1: This was an active decision she made, and that ladies

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think Opie was a little harsh. Still, oh,

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Speaker 2: I definitely, I definitely know what I said before.

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Speaker 1: I think if she I agree on just like saying

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Speaker 1: which she probably wouldn't have. Yeah, it might, it might

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Speaker 1: not ever.

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Speaker 2: Give her the option to push back and then in

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Speaker 2: the event of a pushback, then you can be more straightforward.

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Speaker 1: And I think there's a way of being straightforward without

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Speaker 1: Time for okop rewlash.

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Speaker 2: Am I the a hole for not attending my husband's

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Speaker 2: celebration dinner after I found out I couldn't eat anything

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Speaker 2: at the restaurant. We'll see, let's see, let's see what

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Speaker 2: you got. Ope. My husband has been working really hard

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Speaker 2: the last two years to advance at his company, and

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Speaker 2: he finally got a promotion that he's been after. Hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm really really proud of him. His parents are too,

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Speaker 2: and wanted to take us all out to dinner to celebrate.

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Speaker 2: You mean, my husband absolutely loves prime rib and there's

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Speaker 2: only one place in our area that serves it, so

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Speaker 2: he picked that restaurant. Thing is, I'm not fond of steak.

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Speaker 2: I'll eat it, but very rarely. I prefer chicken or fish.

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Speaker 2: I looked up the menu before leaving, and right and

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Speaker 2: right now they have a limited menu. The place had

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Speaker 2: only one fish entree and two chicken entreys, and none

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Speaker 2: of them sounded good. For various reasons. I suggested he

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Speaker 2: picked someplace else so everyone can eat. He refused, citing

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Speaker 2: that we rarely go out to this place, but go

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Speaker 2: to other places in our area regularly, which is true,

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Speaker 2: but those places have lots of variety, so everyone can eat.

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Speaker 2: He suggested that I asked that they could prepare the

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Speaker 2: fish or chicken without the marinades or sauces, but I

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Speaker 2: didn't want to be difficult for the kitchen staff. But

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Speaker 2: you'd rather be difficult for your husband. Wow, Okay. His

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Speaker 2: next suggestion was I ordered dessert while everyone else ate entrees,

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Speaker 2: and then when we were all done, he could take

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Speaker 2: he and the kids ate dessert. So I opted to

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Speaker 2: going before he was late. He did go, but came

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Speaker 2: back a little over an hour later with the kids,

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Speaker 2: and they all had to go. Boxes. He said he

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Speaker 2: didn't go when they kept asking without lying or making

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Speaker 2: me sound bad, so he just got in order for

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Speaker 2: with their grandparents talking in the parking lot. Oh. I

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Speaker 2: told him he should have stayed, but he said that

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Speaker 2: I put him in a bad spot with the kids

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Speaker 2: and that I knew he wanted everyone there, and then

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Speaker 2: I should have just gotten over my picky eating for

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Speaker 2: one night. I maintained, if you really wanted us to

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Speaker 2: eat all together as a family, he should have picked

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Speaker 2: a restaurant with a more accommodating menu. Am I the

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Speaker 2: a hole? Wow? Yes, yes, my god. And the thing is,

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Speaker 2: it's not like there weren't any options. There were options,

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Speaker 2: And she's like, oh, that doesn't sound good.

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Speaker 1: She said, for various reasons, like then, bitch.

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Speaker 2: Explain, explain the reason. Ela, Dude, you're the biggest a hole.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is bad.

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Speaker 2: Update some of these comments. Some of these comments were

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Speaker 2: pretty harsh, but a kick in the pants. I've apologized

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Speaker 2: profusely to my husband. I'm going to take him to

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Speaker 2: that restaurant this weekend and buy him some camping gear

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Speaker 2: he's been eyeing as and start making up to him

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Speaker 2: in changing course. Thank you, jeez. At least there's some redemption.