WEBVTT - #465 - MC Magic 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.639 What's up, y'all, it's your boy MC magic from a Zilla. 0:00:03.080 --> 0:00:05.600 Make sure you don't miss the podcast with Bootleg Cab 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:06.280 We Live. 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:14.960 Baby, Bootleg Cavs, show Man, special guests in here, Mike 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:16.680 got mc magic, Thanks. 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:20.479 For having me, my brother man. It's a good time 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:23.720 being here. Not the first time, of course, but congratulations 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:25.680 to you too, Arizona Boys up Baby. 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:27.600 Yes, sir man, you got the new album out right now? 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:31.920 God bless Chicanos. Which is it's like a short but 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:32.880 sweet project? 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:33.559 Was it? 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:35.640 Eleven records, eleven eleven songs? 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:36.360 Yeah? 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:37.280 Is that short now? 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:38.840 I guess it is? Now right. 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:41.479 I'm thinking like you've had some albums with some fucking 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:42.360 joints on there. 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:45.280 Yeah, nineteen nineteen songs, and you know, we live in 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:47.640 a different era, Bootleg. Matter of fact, most of the 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:51.280 people that give advice about how to release your music, 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:54.400 they say, stay away from albums. Nobody pays attention to 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.200 the whole album. Just do single, single, single single. But 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:59.200 I'm from the old school man. I think an album 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:02.160 has a special place in my heart and a special 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:03.840 place in real music lover's heart. 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:06.560 And I feel like you have a fan base that 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:09.400 most artists don't have. Most artists are trying to get 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:11.760 thrown into the algorithm of the single I see, I see. 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:11.959 Yeah. 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:14.520 They try to you know, get like in a bottle, 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:16.280 get a TikTok hit mean you have like fans who 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:17.759 will like break bread you know. 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:21.679 No doubt, and man, man, we really do. Man, it's crazy. 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:25.560 And after thirty years of almost thirty years check it out. 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:29.319 In twenty twenty five will be thirty years that my 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:31.959 first album drop. And it's also thirty years of my 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:33.000 wedding anniversary. 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:38.240 Wow, wait, thirty years since which album? 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:42.160 Don't worry coming out the Phex lost the Love. 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:47.240 I was about to dude, I'm old as fun damn 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:49.400 you know, but I'm proud of it. I'm proud of 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:50.880 you should be longevity. Man. 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:54.960 No, people are talking about, hey, bro, how come Google 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:57.280 says you're forty seven? I no, I'm fifty seven and 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:57.920 I earned them. 0:01:58.000 --> 0:01:58.440 Yeah. 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:01.040 No, that's good though, man, feel like to like, you know, 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:05.800 I always say, like, you know, if you can move 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:09.240 the it's really easy to watch people go in and 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:13.120 out of this business, you know, whether it's hip hop, pop, whatever. 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:15.600 When they move like assholes, when they move with like 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:17.520 a lot of disrespect, and I feel like you've always 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:20.040 kind of made sure that you move a certain direction 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:23.200 a certain way while also kind of like, you know, 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:24.880 staying true to yourself and. 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:27.920 No doubt, no doubt, You're a big relationships guy. You know, 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:31.440 I'm big on integrity. Can if you say I'm gonna 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:34.400 meet you at ten, I'm that guy that I was 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:39.359 late today, Guys, I wasn't throwing the shot. But but 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:42.840 not just not just meetings, you know in general. You 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:45.799 know when you when you do a solid for someone, sure, whatever, 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:48.440 whatever it is. I'm big on integrity because at the 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:50.919 end of the day, you can lose all your money, 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:54.440 you can lose all your belongings. But your word is gold. Yep, 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:57.120 your word is bond. And that's a New York thing. 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:58.120 You know what is bond? 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:00.000 Kid? For sure? For sure? 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:00.840 And I believe that. 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.480 Can you walk me through. I want to get to 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:07.120 a few things with the album. But the last song 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:09.920 of the album, you guys did a remake that Drodi 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:13.320 and Oates had thrown out there randomly. It was out 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:16.280 for a second, it was and I told them when 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:19.040 they dropped it, I said, hey, you guys should reach 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:22.840 out to Magic. I'm not sure the specifics of that record, 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:25.919 because it did come out on Upstairs. Yeah, right, And 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:27.480 from what I understand. 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:31.680 Joe Lopez John is the owner, Okay, Joe's his wife. 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:32.040 Okay. 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:34.920 So from what I was always told was that they're 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:36.400 not the easiest people to clear things. 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:38.560 I see, you know, I don't know how many people 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:40.120 have reached out to them to clear things. 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:43.160 But we got a homegirl who redid the summer nights, okay, 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:46.520 and it was a up uphill battle. I see, I 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:49.480 believe it, But but how so can you kind of 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:52.240 give me what you guys did to actually officially release 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:52.680 the song. 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:55.440 I was happy that they did it because because really 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:58.280 it's it's respect. If the song wasn't good, they wouldn't 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:00.360 even touch it. So I take it as as a 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:04.120 as a as respect when they remade pretty Girl and 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:05.800 they just called it pretty Girl. But one of the 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:09.480 problems in music is if you have the same title 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:15.160 royalty wise, percentage wise, it's hard for them for Askap 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:16.640 and b and might have figured out because they got 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:19.000 the same title and it was the same song, and 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:22.279 I think that was the mistake that they made. Didn't 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:25.120 add a letter to it or something to distinguish it, 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:31.000 and so uh, real quickly it got it got it 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:34.960 got taken down because of copyright issues, and I couldn't 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:38.080 do nothing about that because they owned the master, you know, 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:41.880 even though I wrote it and produced it. Uh and 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:44.920 they they owned the master. So they took it down. 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:48.200 And and those guys reached out to me after the fact, 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:49.920 you know, I talked to Drodi. I said, don't worry 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.960 about it, man, Let's just remake it with no samples. 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:55.520 So that's what I did. You you re sang it. 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:57.119 That's kind of really did everything. 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.599 There's no samples in the new version of the original, 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:01.320 but it still feels like the original. 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:03.000 Well that's what I was gonna say, because is that 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.800 kind of like what Taylor Swift recently did. 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:07.839 Yeah, exactly, she re recorded her whole. 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:10.880 Yeah, it's a new master of a song that I created. 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:14.200 You know, an IP You can't you can't take that away. 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:15.760 You don't take that away from you because you write 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:18.440 that song. Yeah, that's so it's a nice loophole. 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:21.560 Yeah, it's a good loophole in the music industry. I mean, 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:24.240 Taylor Swift has made billions off off of doing that. 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:27.040 You know, she tells everybody go get my new compilation 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:28.080 of the same song. 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:29.839 Yeah, and it's a new recording. 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:31.800 It's a new recording of the same song. And so 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:33.839 it's her master now it's no longer the master that 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:35.320 she got a fat advance. 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:38.520 For, right, Yeah, that's were they happy about it? 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:41.159 Yeah, they were, and and and we finished it back 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:42.000 in December. 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:44.040 No, no, I mean upstairs records. 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:44.800 I don't know. 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:45.479 I don't know. 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:48.880 I don't know, man, Yeah, yeah, we don't. We don't talk. 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:51.680 We have no issue. I mean, no, no kind of relationship. 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:52.920 Only I knew that. 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:55.279 I just didn't know if like they'd like try to hate. 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.040 No, they haven't told me anything they have. But I 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:00.920 didn't break any rules, for sure, break any rules. I mean, 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:04.279 that's my original lyrics, something about you. Those were my lyrics, 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:06.200 you feel me, for sure? And so just to re 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:08.360 sing my lyrics, yeah, it's no problem. 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:12.720 And so you guys when Ot was in Phoenix, you 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:14.880 guys shot a video in Phoenix for that song. We did, 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:16.600 and I remember me and Ote would talk about it 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:18.120 all the time and he'd be like, man, I don't 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:19.440 know when the fuck that thing's coming out. 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:19.600 Bro. 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:21.320 We had shot that video so long. 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:24.800 So what happened is is that I, uh that I finished. 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.640 We finished that one in December, and we shot the 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:30.280 video because Ot was doing the show in December, so 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:33.000 we piggybacked off the video the same day of his 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:35.960 video actually and uh our same day of his show, 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:39.040 I mean. And so I had it done and then 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:43.039 I got two more features from him, that Bounce and 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.599 another one that I haven't dropped yet that I'm saying 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:48.919 that's in the can. But the hold up was getting 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:52.640 the clearance from Interscope. So getting that waiver from Interscope 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:54.120 it took a little bit. We got out, we had 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:57.200 all the paperwork done, all the finances were done, all 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.599 the legal fees were done, everything was taken care of, 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.760 and Interscope just kind of took their time. And then 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:06.640 finally on a Tuesday, they said they sent me an 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:08.599 email said if you want to drop this Friday, go ahead, 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:10.240 but other other than that, we don't know when we 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:12.720 can give you a date. And I'm like, it's dropping 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:13.760 this Friday. 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:17.960 Yeah, because you guys shot I remember when Coyote was here, 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:21.680 we did an interview and then either that night or 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:23.160 first thing in the morning, they had to catch a 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:23.560 flight to. 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:27.040 He's right, yeah, right the next day, Uh, they left 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.440 from here, I think the next day. It was crazy 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:31.720 because I really felt a lot of love from Ot 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:35.280 that day. Because our video shoot was supposed to start 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:38.560 at two pm in Houston. We again, we worked it 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:39.600 around his schedule. 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:44.240 He was did shoot both videos, the one that's coming 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:44.680 out soon. 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:48.760 Yes, he shot and edited both. So we got there. 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:51.560 It was for a two pm video shoot, it was 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:54.360 supposed to be, but the airlines were having problems and 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:57.480 we were We were four hours late, me and the YODI. 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:00.560 So we pulled up, you know, in the rental change 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:02.040 right into filming. 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:04.360 Damn, you wouldn't even know. You would not have guessed 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:06.240 watching the video exactly. 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.280 And then Ot he had already been there waiting four 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:09.600 hours for us. 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:10.200 Uh. 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:13.080 It was done at this little place called Chicano Boulevard. 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:15.160 Oh shit, you know, and it really it w went 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:16.280 well with the title too. 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:18.160 You know. I saw do boy pulled up. But who 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.480 else was in the video? The baby ba Baby Bash 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:22.880 was pushing up LOGI shouts to. 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.600 Bash, Yeah, my brother bash Man. We've been doing so 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:26.600 much work together. 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:27.200 Yo. 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:31.040 It's crazy to think because me and Bash had a 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:36.400 conversation recently about how he's never been busier on the 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.080 road in his career. Yeah, and I feel like the 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:40.319 same is probably said for you. 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:44.360 Yeah, the same is for me. You know, a lot 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:47.640 of things have changed, keV. You know, even just going 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:50.240 out to do what they called promo shows back in 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:53.760 the days, you know, radio stations and the label would 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:56.560 abuse the artists so that they both can win, and 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:59.360 the artists went on to be Yeah, artists would go 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:00.120 home broke. 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.400 A look or for the record appeah yeah, yeah, to. 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:04.480 Get the ad, to get the spins to get you. 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:07.320 Sure you did a lot of those, of course. Yeah. 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:11.440 Of course. Even after I left I went back independent 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:15.360 with the with the Magic City, I still had to 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:17.280 do a lot of radio stuff, but it really helped. 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.160 It really helped because Sexy Lady, I mean, of all 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.080 my albums, Magic City is the only one that went 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:25.600 number one on Billboard. Wow, number one on the independent chart. 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:26.760 It's called the heat Seeker chart. 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:27.280 Yeah. 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:29.240 Yeah, yeah, So in two thousand and six, I went 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:30.640 number one on Billboard. 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:31.480 And you had a real hit. 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:35.880 I mean, Sexy Lady was like, is I just want 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:38.360 to know, Like I live in Arizona at the time 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:40.880 and that song if you cannot turn the fucking radio 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:41.760 on with out hearing that song. 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:44.920 I remember the night jock name was Sander. 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:47.720 Pena, who's currently in LA doing her thing. 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:50.240 That's right. So it was it was a top nine 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:52.720 at nine. They would do every night, and I think 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:56.400 I was number one for at least two months straight. 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:56.760 Yeah. 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:57.640 That was amazing. 0:09:57.720 --> 0:09:59.480 And there's still not a real video. 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:02.320 No, it's just that one thing that I shot at 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:04.520 the rate of state dais three day times three. My 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:07.600 son who's been with me for the whole journey, I 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:10.440 think he was in high school. We filmed an unplugged 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:11.960 version at a studio. 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.360 Have you thought about I don't know what your relationships 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:18.920 like with Caine, but have you Juvenile just shot a 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:22.240 video from four hundred degrees earlier this year? Yeah, I 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:24.920 mean we're talking about that was nineteen ninety nine. Yeah, 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:28.080 and he just shot and re released the video. Do 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:29.720 you think it's a good idea to be a sexy 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:30.360 lady video you? 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:31.920 I feel like you have to do anyboy. We got 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:33.439 to do a sexy lady video. 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:37.040 Bro, especially if you're gonna do I mean, I don't 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:39.000 I'm necessary say because you're always on the road, so 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:42.640 you're always doing shows. Oh yeah, but I think you said, Oh, 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:45.600 I think for in twenty twenty six, Yeah, the twenty 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:46.400 year anniversary. 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:48.600 Yeah yeah, you guys should get that in the can. 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:51.440 That'd be sick drop it and then you could drop 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:55.040 like a special commemorative Yeah, think just for the fans. 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:58.360 I would like that. I think it's beautiful. Good with Kine, 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:01.559 with djk oh yeah, we're brothers. Oh yeah, yeah yeah, 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.680 then then what are you doing? Yeah, yeah, you got to. 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:06.920 But I would do it in two years. 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:10.120 Drop it in two years on the anniversary of Because 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:10.760 that's crazy. 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:12.000 That's crazy that that song. 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:14.280 Why don't you sponsor it that we can put executive 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:18.720 produced by Bootleg I get some sponsors for you. 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:20.120 You said odd socks and beyond the. 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:25.760 Odds that motherfucker shots of hard Dean. Yeah, but no, 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:27.040 I think that'd be dope. 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:28.880 Though, that would be dope. That would be dope. 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.320 Uh. You know, of the of the eleven songs on 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:35.160 the album, I have a video done for all of 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:37.240 them except one except two. 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:37.920 Wow. 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:40.400 Yeah, that's crazy and we're working on those as well. 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:42.360 And how are you going to roll them all out? 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:44.760 Just gonna space them ount space them out. I mean 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:46.520 by Christmas, everything will be out. 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:49.600 You you got Jenny six nine on the album I 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:51.680 remember you and I had a conversation about you guys 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:55.520 potentially because you maybe working together on like some official 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:56.680 music through your label. 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:58.520 Yeh, that's something you guys ever worked out? 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:01.240 You know, I her to sign her to the label 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:05.680 and kind of a guide the the the brand, the 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.079 Jenny six y nine brand. You know. I had a 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:10.480 vision to kind of make it like a modern day 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.320 version of what j Lo was, you know what I'm saying, 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:16.360 in her in her era. But Jenny's got her own ideas, 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:19.440 and every artist does. She's got her own ideas. And 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:22.280 I told her, you know, my I guess my style 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:26.040 is not as as U ratchet, you know, and Jenny 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:30.880 likes the you know, she has a ratchet brand. I'll say. 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:34.280 I mean, look, I think she's dope. Yeah, I like 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:36.000 I like that. What was that record she had? 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:39.920 Was it with you? Was it the Riverside? Riverside? 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:40.520 I wrote that one. 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:41.440 Yeah, that's it was hard. 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:45.320 Yeah it was gang banging. Yeah yeah, Riverside loved it, 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:48.040 you know, dropped it. It was on my label, that was 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:52.200 on your label. Yeah, we got two records together, and 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:53.560 the new ones on my and the other the new 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:54.040 ones on my. 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:56.840 Album can You Can You Know? 0:12:56.880 --> 0:13:00.080 It's it's it's interesting because you've kind of been a 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.960 part of almost every era of what we would consider 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:07.040 like the different eras of. 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:08.920 Mexican hip hop. 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:12.320 Yeah, and I feel like in twenty twenty four it's 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:16.360 never been more thriving. It feels like, you know, there's 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:19.679 so much energy, there's so much you know, whatever you're 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:25.160 looking for, there's that. And artists are getting signed to 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:27.439 major labels. Yeah, you've got a guy like Mexicano or 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.640 Tea going gold, going platinum over and obviously you know 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:33.160 a guy like Lefty gun Play who's going crazy. And 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.679 it feels like it's it's kind of like that. I mean, 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:39.600 it's it's it's the best time because it feels like 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:42.880 the music industry is finally When I say the music industry, 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:44.400 I mean people in New York, people who are like 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:47.640 signed everywhere. The major label folks are really looking at 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:51.240 what's going on. Why do you think that the timing 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:54.000 is finally kind of coming together for Mexicans and hip 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:55.920 hop perseverance? 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:59.040 Yeah, you know, we come from from a background where 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:01.640 no matter well, we're never going to stop trying, whether 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:04.040 you work in the fields, whether you work as a 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.800 construction worker, whatever it is. 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:08.800 Mexicans don't give up. Yeah. 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.839 And when I say Mexicans, the whole world that doesn't 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.400 know that there's a difference between a Mexican from Mexico 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:18.000 and a Mexican from America. I talked, I'm talking about 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.040 all of us. I'm talking about all of us. But 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:22.240 that's why I went with the word Chicano, because I 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:27.560 think that that describes my demo a little bit better 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:30.360 than just saying Mexican, because I was born in Mexico, 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:32.880 but I feel more Chicano, you know, kind of like 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:34.680 Pac he was born in New York, but he read 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:37.640 the West Coast, you know what I'm saying. So, but 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:40.680 I think it's because of perseverance. You know, the one 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:44.520 that Corrido Dumbalos took off in twenty twenty during the pandemic. 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.120 It wasn't planned, it was organic. 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.280 Right, you know. And I think that was one of 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:52.000 the things that kicked off the whole domino. 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:53.640 Of No for sure, because it's like I think I 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:56.800 was talking to jop and he was saying four out 0:14:56.800 --> 0:15:00.960 of the five top Latin artists were all Mexican. Yeah 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:04.840 on Spotify, and the one who wasn't was Bad Bunny exactly. 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:07.280 And I was like, damn Like and then, like you said, 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:10.680 the corrido shit is like you know, like growing up 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:12.560 in Phoenix, DJ and Jaguars, like we had to play 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:15.480 all that shit, of course, but it's crazy that it's 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:18.720 like now, it's like it's so big, it's it's it's 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:20.800 and a lot of these like I was telling Jop, 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.040 I was like, man, y'all look like rappers for real. 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:26.360 Like these dudes got double cups and chains. 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:28.760 It's it's a clash of cultures for sure. It's a 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:30.880 clash of cultures. And then you got the kid Hobby 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:31.520 from Phoenix. 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:33.560 Amazing. That kid is so on fire. 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:35.600 He is killing it so on fire. 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.280 I remember Alexis maj put me onto him three or 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:39.760 four years ago when he was like a like, I 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.040 don't know, probably fourteen thirteen something. 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:45.520 You know what it is about this whole movement, keV 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:49.480 Is it's not just bilingual. It's by cultural, right, and 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:54.240 so not everyone's by cultural, not that he's now by 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.560 cultural because he came and got the swag like the 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:59.640 interview you know, you and Jop had so he came 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:02.760 and got the hip hop swag from the American Mexicans, 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:05.480 the chicanom right, you see what I'm saying. And he said, man, 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:05.840 this is. 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:06.640 Cool, this is cool. 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:09.720 So now it's just it's just it's a big melting pot, 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:11.840 you know. And I love Corridos too. You know my 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:12.840 son sings Colriedos. 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:15.880 Say you have your son on your album? Yeah, what was? 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:18.280 Because your son's been also rolling with you a lot, 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:20.440 like yeah, he's been he's been been to your shows. 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:21.400 He's there helping out. 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:24.080 He's my merch guy. Yeah, so he's going from the 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:26.600 merch table to the stage. 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:29.280 Which son of yours was also writing scooters? Was it 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:30.040 him or was it. 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.760 He's They were both right shooters. But he's the pro 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:34.280 because there was some serious fucking scooter. 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.440 Yeah, he's going to compete in Rome, oh ship next month, 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:42.040 like on a razor. Yeah that's a bad word, bro, 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:46.120 always that I don't know the culture is is, but 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.120 but is razor like frown upon? It's not calling a 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:50.320 BMX or a Huffey bike. 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:52.160 You you know what I'm saying. 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:56.200 Oh, you're like on a Hoffey Right, He's like, Okay, 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:56.640 I get it. 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:58.400 I guess that's what Grandma got you for Christmas. And 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:00.520 what's it like, because I've heard a lot of your 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:02.720 son stuff. He's obviously shooting videos and stuff. 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:04.520 He's signed to you, Like, what's that been like to 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:07.639 kind of guide him into the music ship and like 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:09.639