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Speaker 1: What's up, y'all, it's your boy MC magic from a Zilla.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you don't miss the podcast with Bootleg Cab

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Speaker 1: We Live.

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Speaker 2: Baby, Bootleg Cavs, show Man, special guests in here, Mike

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Speaker 2: got mc magic, Thanks.

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Speaker 1: For having me, my brother man. It's a good time

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Speaker 1: being here. Not the first time, of course, but congratulations

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Speaker 1: to you too, Arizona Boys up Baby.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir man, you got the new album out right now?

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Speaker 3: God bless Chicanos. Which is it's like a short but

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Speaker 3: sweet project?

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Speaker 2: Was it?

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Speaker 1: Eleven records, eleven eleven songs?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Is that short now?

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Speaker 4: I guess it is? Now right.

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking like you've had some albums with some fucking

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Speaker 3: joints on there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, nineteen nineteen songs, and you know, we live in

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Speaker 1: a different era, Bootleg. Matter of fact, most of the

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Speaker 1: people that give advice about how to release your music,

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Speaker 1: they say, stay away from albums. Nobody pays attention to

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Speaker 1: the whole album. Just do single, single, single single. But

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Speaker 1: I'm from the old school man. I think an album

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Speaker 1: has a special place in my heart and a special

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Speaker 1: place in real music lover's heart.

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Speaker 3: And I feel like you have a fan base that

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Speaker 3: most artists don't have. Most artists are trying to get

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Speaker 3: thrown into the algorithm of the single I see, I see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They try to you know, get like in a bottle,

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Speaker 3: get a TikTok hit mean you have like fans who

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Speaker 3: will like break bread you know.

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Speaker 1: No doubt, and man, man, we really do. Man, it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: And after thirty years of almost thirty years check it out.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty five will be thirty years that my

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Speaker 1: first album drop. And it's also thirty years of my

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Speaker 1: wedding anniversary.

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Speaker 3: Wow, wait, thirty years since which album?

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Speaker 1: Don't worry coming out the Phex lost the Love.

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Speaker 4: I was about to dude, I'm old as fun damn

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Speaker 4: you know, but I'm proud of it. I'm proud of

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Speaker 4: you should be longevity. Man.

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Speaker 1: No, people are talking about, hey, bro, how come Google

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Speaker 1: says you're forty seven? I no, I'm fifty seven and

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Speaker 1: I earned them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, that's good though, man, feel like to like, you know,

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Speaker 3: I always say, like, you know, if you can move

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Speaker 3: the it's really easy to watch people go in and

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Speaker 3: out of this business, you know, whether it's hip hop, pop, whatever.

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Speaker 3: When they move like assholes, when they move with like

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Speaker 3: a lot of disrespect, and I feel like you've always

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Speaker 3: kind of made sure that you move a certain direction

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Speaker 3: a certain way while also kind of like, you know,

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Speaker 3: staying true to yourself and.

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Speaker 1: No doubt, no doubt, You're a big relationships guy. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm big on integrity. Can if you say I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: meet you at ten, I'm that guy that I was

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Speaker 1: late today, Guys, I wasn't throwing the shot. But but

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Speaker 1: not just not just meetings, you know in general. You

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Speaker 1: know when you when you do a solid for someone, sure, whatever,

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Speaker 1: whatever it is. I'm big on integrity because at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, you can lose all your money,

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Speaker 1: you can lose all your belongings. But your word is gold. Yep,

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Speaker 1: your word is bond. And that's a New York thing.

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Speaker 1: You know what is bond?

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Speaker 4: Kid? For sure? For sure?

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Speaker 1: And I believe that.

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Speaker 3: Can you walk me through. I want to get to

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Speaker 3: a few things with the album. But the last song

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Speaker 3: of the album, you guys did a remake that Drodi

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Speaker 3: and Oates had thrown out there randomly. It was out

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Speaker 3: for a second, it was and I told them when

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Speaker 3: they dropped it, I said, hey, you guys should reach

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Speaker 3: out to Magic. I'm not sure the specifics of that record,

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Speaker 3: because it did come out on Upstairs. Yeah, right, And

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Speaker 3: from what I understand.

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Speaker 1: Joe Lopez John is the owner, Okay, Joe's his wife.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 3: So from what I was always told was that they're

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Speaker 3: not the easiest people to clear things.

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Speaker 1: I see, you know, I don't know how many people

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Speaker 1: have reached out to them to clear things.

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Speaker 3: But we got a homegirl who redid the summer nights, okay,

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Speaker 3: and it was a up uphill battle. I see, I

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Speaker 3: believe it, But but how so can you kind of

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Speaker 3: give me what you guys did to actually officially release

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Speaker 1: I was happy that they did it because because really

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Speaker 1: it's it's respect. If the song wasn't good, they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: as a as respect when they remade pretty Girl and

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Speaker 1: they just called it pretty Girl. But one of the

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Speaker 1: problems in music is if you have the same title

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Speaker 1: royalty wise, percentage wise, it's hard for them for Askap

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Speaker 1: and b and might have figured out because they got

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Speaker 1: the same title and it was the same song, and

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Speaker 1: I think that was the mistake that they made. Didn't

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Speaker 1: and so uh, real quickly it got it got it

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Speaker 1: got taken down because of copyright issues, and I couldn't

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Speaker 1: do nothing about that because they owned the master, you know,

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Speaker 1: even though I wrote it and produced it. Uh and

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Speaker 1: they they owned the master. So they took it down.

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Speaker 1: And and those guys reached out to me after the fact,

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Speaker 1: you know, I talked to Drodi. I said, don't worry

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Speaker 1: about it, man, Let's just remake it with no samples.

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Speaker 4: So that's what I did. You you re sang it.

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Speaker 4: That's kind of really did everything.

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Speaker 1: There's no samples in the new version of the original,

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Speaker 1: but it still feels like the original.

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Speaker 3: Well that's what I was gonna say, because is that

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Speaker 3: kind of like what Taylor Swift recently did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, she re recorded her whole.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a new master of a song that I created.

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Speaker 1: You know, an IP You can't you can't take that away.

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Speaker 3: You don't take that away from you because you write

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Speaker 3: that song. Yeah, that's so it's a nice loophole.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good loophole in the music industry. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift has made billions off off of doing that.

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Speaker 1: You know, she tells everybody go get my new compilation

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Speaker 1: of the same song.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's a new recording.

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Speaker 1: It's a new recording of the same song. And so

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Speaker 1: it's her master now it's no longer the master that

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Speaker 1: she got a fat advance.

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Speaker 4: For, right, Yeah, that's were they happy about it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they were, and and and we finished it back

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Speaker 1: in December.

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Speaker 4: No, no, I mean upstairs records.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, Yeah, yeah, we don't. We don't talk.

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Speaker 1: We have no issue. I mean, no, no kind of relationship.

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Speaker 4: I just didn't know if like they'd like try to hate.

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Speaker 1: No, they haven't told me anything they have. But I

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Speaker 1: didn't break any rules, for sure, break any rules. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's my original lyrics, something about you. Those were my lyrics,

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Speaker 1: you feel me, for sure? And so just to re

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Speaker 1: sing my lyrics, yeah, it's no problem.

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Speaker 3: And so you guys when Ot was in Phoenix, you

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Speaker 3: guys shot a video in Phoenix for that song. We did,

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Speaker 3: and I remember me and Ote would talk about it

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Speaker 3: all the time and he'd be like, man, I don't

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Speaker 3: know when the fuck that thing's coming out.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 4: We had shot that video so long.

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Speaker 1: So what happened is is that I, uh that I finished.

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Speaker 1: We finished that one in December, and we shot the

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Speaker 1: video because Ot was doing the show in December, so

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Speaker 1: we piggybacked off the video the same day of his

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Speaker 1: I mean. And so I had it done and then

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Speaker 1: I got two more features from him, that Bounce and

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Speaker 1: another one that I haven't dropped yet that I'm saying

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Speaker 1: that's in the can. But the hold up was getting

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Speaker 1: the clearance from Interscope. So getting that waiver from Interscope

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Speaker 1: it took a little bit. We got out, we had

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Speaker 1: all the paperwork done, all the finances were done, all

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Speaker 1: the legal fees were done, everything was taken care of,

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Speaker 1: and Interscope just kind of took their time. And then

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Speaker 1: finally on a Tuesday, they said they sent me an

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Speaker 1: email said if you want to drop this Friday, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: but other other than that, we don't know when we

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Speaker 1: can give you a date. And I'm like, it's dropping

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you guys shot I remember when Coyote was here,

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Speaker 1: He's right, yeah, right the next day, Uh, they left

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Speaker 1: because I really felt a lot of love from Ot

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Speaker 1: that day. Because our video shoot was supposed to start

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Speaker 4: He was did shoot both videos, the one that's coming

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Speaker 1: Yes, he shot and edited both. So we got there.

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Speaker 1: It was for a two pm video shoot, it was

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Speaker 1: So we pulled up, you know, in the rental change

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Speaker 4: Damn, you wouldn't even know. You would not have guessed

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Speaker 1: And then Ot he had already been there waiting four

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: It was done at this little place called Chicano Boulevard.

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Speaker 1: Oh shit, you know, and it really it w went

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Speaker 1: well with the title too.

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Speaker 4: You know. I saw do boy pulled up. But who

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Speaker 4: else was in the video? The baby ba Baby Bash

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Speaker 4: was pushing up LOGI shouts to.

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Speaker 1: Bash, Yeah, my brother bash Man. We've been doing so

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Speaker 4: Yo.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy to think because me and Bash had a

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Speaker 3: conversation recently about how he's never been busier on the

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Speaker 3: road in his career. Yeah, and I feel like the

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Speaker 3: same is probably said for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the same is for me. You know, a lot

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Speaker 1: of things have changed, keV. You know, even just going

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Speaker 1: out to do what they called promo shows back in

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Speaker 1: the days, you know, radio stations and the label would

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Speaker 1: abuse the artists so that they both can win, and

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Speaker 1: the artists went on to be Yeah, artists would go

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Speaker 4: A look or for the record appeah yeah, yeah, to.

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Speaker 1: Get the ad, to get the spins to get you.

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Speaker 4: Sure you did a lot of those, of course. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Of course. Even after I left I went back independent

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Speaker 1: with the with the Magic City, I still had to

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Speaker 1: do a lot of radio stuff, but it really helped.

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Speaker 1: It really helped because Sexy Lady, I mean, of all

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Speaker 1: my albums, Magic City is the only one that went

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Speaker 1: number one on Billboard. Wow, number one on the independent chart.

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Speaker 1: It's called the heat Seeker chart.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That's right. So it was it was a top nine

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Speaker 3: Have you thought about I don't know what your relationships

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Speaker 1: I feel like you have to do anyboy. We got

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Speaker 3: I think for in twenty twenty six, Yeah, the twenty

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, you guys should get that in the can.

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Speaker 3: That'd be sick drop it and then you could drop

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Speaker 4: I would like that. I think it's beautiful. Good with Kine,

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Speaker 4: with djk oh yeah, we're brothers. Oh yeah, yeah yeah,

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Speaker 4: then then what are you doing? Yeah, yeah, you got to.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy that that song.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you sponsor it that we can put executive

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Speaker 4: You said odd socks and beyond the.

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Speaker 3: Odds that motherfucker shots of hard Dean. Yeah, but no,

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Speaker 3: I think that'd be dope.

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Speaker 4: Though, that would be dope. That would be dope.

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Speaker 1: Uh. You know, of the of the eleven songs on

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy and we're working on those as well.

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Speaker 4: And how are you going to roll them all out?

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Speaker 3: You you got Jenny six nine on the album I

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Speaker 4: Yeh, that's something you guys ever worked out?

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Speaker 4: Album can You Can You Know?

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Speaker 3: It's it's it's interesting because you've kind of been a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I feel like in twenty twenty four it's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we come from from a background where

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Speaker 4: Mexicans don't give up. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't planned, it was organic.

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Speaker 1: Right, you know. And I think that was one of

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Speaker 3: Of No for sure, because it's like I think I

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Speaker 4: It's it's a clash of cultures for sure. It's a

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Speaker 1: Amazing. That kid is so on fire.

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Speaker 4: He is killing it so on fire.

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Speaker 1: You know what it is about this whole movement, keV

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Speaker 1: the chicanom right, you see what I'm saying. And he said, man,

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Speaker 4: Cool, this is cool.

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Speaker 1: So now it's just it's just it's a big melting pot,

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Speaker 3: Say you have your son on your album? Yeah, what was?

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Speaker 3: Because your son's been also rolling with you a lot,

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Speaker 3: like yeah, he's been he's been been to your shows.

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Speaker 4: He's there helping out.

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Speaker 1: He's my merch guy. Yeah, so he's going from the

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Speaker 3: Which son of yours was also writing scooters? Was it

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Speaker 4: He's They were both right shooters. But he's the pro

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to compete in Rome, oh ship next month,

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Speaker 1: like on a razor. Yeah that's a bad word, bro,

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Speaker 1: always that I don't know the culture is is, but

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Speaker 4: You you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I guess that's what Grandma got you for Christmas. And

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Speaker 3: He's signed to you, Like, what's that been like to

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Speaker 3: like the music sounds really good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of fun. It's a lot of

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Speaker 1: or that's the music we're listening to, you know, in

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Speaker 1: let's let's chase this lane. That's really who he is.

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Speaker 1: That's really who he is, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: That's dope, man.

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Speaker 3: Is there is there any part of like being having

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Speaker 3: on you, Like, do you guys have any battles where

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Speaker 3: you just got.

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Speaker 4: To let him win one?

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Speaker 1: No, no, No, we don't see.

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Speaker 3: Does he trust kind of like your vision because you

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Speaker 3: obviously you're you've built this independent.

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Speaker 1: Well check this out, bootleg. Being an artist. Being an artist,

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Speaker 1: I've already gone through all the feelings that are young

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Speaker 4: By the way, she's doing great.

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Speaker 1: She's doing amazing. I understand them because it comes from

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Speaker 1: And so I let him. I let him. But on

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Speaker 1: He's taking my advice and it's paid off. He was

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Speaker 1: just telling me yesterday, Yo, Pops, I got this new

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Speaker 4: Does he record at home? Yeah, because you got the

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Speaker 1: I got a home studio. He's got a home studio

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Speaker 1: and h and we go everywhere and record as well.

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Speaker 4: Super dope man. And then he's is he opening up

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Speaker 1: He doesn't open up. Right now, we breaking in the

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Speaker 1: middle of my set and he does two songs, so

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00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,160
Speaker 1: we're also easing them into the stage as well.

444
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Speaker 4: Yo, what's it like being like because how many days

445
00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,760
Speaker 4: a year are you doing all of them? You know

446
00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,160
Speaker 4: what I'm saying? Like if you had, like guess it's

447
00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:58,160
Speaker 4: like one hundred days a year.

448
00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we average one hundred constants a Year's so crazy?

449
00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and what do you think?

450
00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,920
Speaker 3: What like like you being busier now on the road

451
00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:10,000
Speaker 3: than ever. And it's so funny because like sometimes I

452
00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,159
Speaker 3: have to educate people who aren't hip to what you

453
00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,760
Speaker 3: what you got going on? Yeah here in La like

454
00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,879
Speaker 3: not like people who know no you know, yeah, but

455
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,359
Speaker 3: like quote unquote industry people, I'd be like, yeah, Magic

456
00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,000
Speaker 3: sells off the Novo like twice a year, and they'll

457
00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,240
Speaker 3: be like what the Novo And I'm like yeah, like yes,

458
00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,240
Speaker 3: like you know, but it's crazy, Like what would you

459
00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:35,520
Speaker 3: attribute the the because there's something about what you've built

460
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,600
Speaker 3: where if there's a festival, yoah, we're gonna put Magic

461
00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,680
Speaker 3: on the festival. I mean you just performed out what

462
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,200
Speaker 3: was the thing you just did in downtown La a

463
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:42,800
Speaker 3: few weeks ago?

464
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,800
Speaker 1: Downtown La was it's called Persian Square. Yeah, it's a

465
00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,400
Speaker 1: city event that they put on and they say, sign

466
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,640
Speaker 1: up for the guest list. You can get in free,

467
00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,480
Speaker 1: but you have to be twenty one because it's you know,

468
00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,639
Speaker 1: it's just it was crazy. It was crazy. It had

469
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 1: to turn two thousand people away, so it capped out

470
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,000
Speaker 1: at like seven thousand. They said no more, so they

471
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,960
Speaker 1: turned people away, and you know, the fans get mad

472
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,399
Speaker 1: because they register. Sure, but a lot of times when

473
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,480
Speaker 1: you register for a free event, you know from working

474
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:10,160
Speaker 1: at radio.

475
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 3: It's first first come for serve exactly once it hits capacity. Yes, yes,

476
00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,360
Speaker 3: but I was gonna say, like, you know, you had

477
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,160
Speaker 3: you had mentioned kind of like going through the era

478
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 3: of your career where you had to do some of

479
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 3: the radio shit, which I think that I don't think

480
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,160
Speaker 3: a lot of that's happening anymore, to be fair, because

481
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:26,120
Speaker 3: radio shows are kind.

482
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 1: Of Yeah, it's tough.

483
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 4: It's tough.

484
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,880
Speaker 1: I like radio because that's where I came from. That's

485
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,199
Speaker 1: what made my original music hits. But I know it

486
00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,120
Speaker 1: doesn't have the same impact as as TikTok.

487
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 3: But I feel like now you're like you're kind of like, uh,

488
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 3: orchestrating a lot of your own shit, Like like you're

489
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 3: literally on the side of the stage, like when I

490
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,919
Speaker 3: saw you when you when you had them be writers

491
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 3: guys back out on on on on the road.

492
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 1: The Reunion tour in twenty nineteen.

493
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was like.

494
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 3: You and little Rob I think was your main support

495
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,680
Speaker 3: at the note, but you were like like during Rob's performance,

496
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 3: you were like helping with what was going on on

497
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:04,919
Speaker 3: the screen.

498
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I'm hands on, but yeah, but like a

499
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,120
Speaker 1: lot of the shows you do are you're booking them yourself, right, Yeah,

500
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 1: it's like you and me and Big d are the

501
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,359
Speaker 1: promoters a big D. Yeah, me and Big d are

502
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,360
Speaker 1: the promoters behind it. It's a little two man operation.

503
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 4: But it works, no, for sure.

504
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 3: And I feel like more artists with real fans should

505
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 3: do that shit instead of depending on like somebody in

506
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,160
Speaker 3: like a local market or live.

507
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 4: Nation to book you.

508
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 1: I advise it because you know, if you let a

509
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,119
Speaker 1: big promoter get a hold of you, they're going to

510
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 1: give you. Then I say, okay, we'll give you a

511
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,920
Speaker 1: million dollars for the tour, and the tour will make

512
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,120
Speaker 1: five million.

513
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,479
Speaker 4: And yeah, they'll give you an advance.

514
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,679
Speaker 1: You got your MILLI, you got Yourmelli already, And then

515
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 1: they bite you off of that. Remember the hotels and.

516
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 4: So it's a writer.

517
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a like I just saw like a record country.

518
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, John Bellyon just did it. I just saw him

519
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 3: on talking about it. He signed to deal with Live

520
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 3: Nation and he said he took an advance on however

521
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,919
Speaker 3: many shows he had to do, right, Yeah, And he

522
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,719
Speaker 3: said that when he got the invoices, he was like,

523
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 3: you know, they're charging me for toilet paper.

524
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,880
Speaker 4: Like they're charging me for like stuff I don't eat on.

525
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 1: The road, Fynasy bottles eight free.

526
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,120
Speaker 3: He's like, I don't even eat this ship. But every

527
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 3: venue you have to put a writer. Yeah, And he's like, dude,

528
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 3: he brought himself out of his deal with Live Nation.

529
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Yeah, we never got a deal like that,

530
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 1: and which is for the better because we learned the

531
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 1: hard Nune.

532
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 4: But you also, I mean you do a lot of

533
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 4: stuff with like a bike. Bobby d shoutut to Bobby dede.

534
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 1: Byby my brother Bobby Fresh.

535
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 4: Yeah he's out. He's been murdering ship.

536
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Bobby, he don't play. He's serious. He's a

537
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 1: Chicago too, you know what I'm saying.

538
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 4: For sure, God blessed Chicanos. Talk to me about how

539
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 4: you have been, Like, can.

540
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 3: You give me a night, Like, what are your thoughts

541
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 3: being a guy from Arizona Because I've obviously always kind

542
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 3: of been like lightly hip to some of the politics

543
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 3: that happened in California, but not as much as before

544
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 3: I moved here. When I moved here, I was very

545
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 3: very like okay, because you know, in Arizona, like I

546
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 3: got cousins in prison, and you know, are stuff out

547
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 3: there is a lot different. Yeah, I feel like in California, Uh,

548
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 3: there's a lot of beef amongst other artists, yeah, or

549
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 3: Mexican like yeah, and and somehow you've always been able

550
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 3: to kind of like stay.

551
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 4: Clear of any of that drama.

552
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 1: Amen.

553
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 4: I think you know it speaks to you as a person.

554
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, well my music was never that kind of you.

555
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 4: It was never that music.

556
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,120
Speaker 3: But like you know, you're on the I'm sure, I'm

557
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 3: sure I come into California as much as you have.

558
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 3: But like, what are your thoughts just on like that

559
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 3: scene of like you know, because I was just talking

560
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 3: about this, like, Yo, I feel like there's so much

561
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 3: opportunity for the state of California. A lot of these

562
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 3: artists to move together. It's like it's like it's like

563
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,479
Speaker 3: Lefty Gunplay worked with an artist from the north right.

564
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 3: It would like be huge, you know what I mean.

565
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 3: But it feels like there's like this huge invisible barrier.

566
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, from my point of view, that whole,

567
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 1: that whole, whether you're from southern Cali or Northern County,

568
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: all that man, that that's that's a touchy subject that

569
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: I've I've never gotten close to. But I think it's

570
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 1: it's deeper than just the streets. I think it comes

571
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: from the inside. I think from the prisons. They control it.

572
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 1: And if someone's trying to be a good Samaritan and then

573
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 1: bring everybody together, the guys on the inside are calling

574
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: the shot, saying you know, no till yes.

575
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 3: I feel like Goldts gets held and he's like, I'm like,

576
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 3: this guy's trying to make everybody work together.

577
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there you go.

578
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 4: Toe's a great guy. Yeah, TOAs is a good dude.

579
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 1: When he comes to Phoenix, we play ball and he's

580
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: promising with my ass on the court next time.

581
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 4: For people who don't know magic who you got like some.

582
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 1: A little bit, I ain't no baby bast hoof.

583
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 4: Too for sure.

584
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 3: How fun has it been just being on the road

585
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 3: with Bash as much as you guys hit the road together.

586
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 4: Man, it's dope.

587
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 1: He calls me benchet magic, that's his word. Yeah, it's

588
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: that's dope. Man. Bash knows that we've already got like

589
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: everything in place. It's a protocol for our concerts, and

590
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: all he needs to know is what time do I

591
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: go on?

592
00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 4: I feel like, would you guys do a joint project? Man?

593
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: We just we just did one that was super incredible

594
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: and then at the last minute of Renter was thrown

595
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: in the program. I can't tell you the full details.

596
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 4: So you guys are supposed to do.

597
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it just all fell apart.

598
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 4: So the music's been recorded.

599
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: It wasn't a whole album. It was just one song.

600
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 4: So just one song.

601
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: It was one song and it fell apart at the end.

602
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: That's a music video. It fell apart. Yes, yeah, I can't.

603
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: I can't tell you the whole thing because because we're family,

604
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: right and it's family business. But that's what happened, and

605
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 1: it broke my heart. Bro.

606
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 3: I feel like, if you guys did like a song

607
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 3: album and that's crazy. I mean, you guys could tour

608
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 3: off that for like a whole other year, Like.

609
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: We're already touring for I got dates in October next year. Bro, Yeah,

610
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 1: that's no problem there, My son Daniel tells me. He says, pops,

611
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: stop touring, take a trip, go overseas, get inspired by

612
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 1: something different, and come back a whole new person.

613
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 4: Yeah. I like that mentality. Take a little break. Yeah.

614
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 3: I mean, but look, man, and if the dates are dating,

615
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 3: and then you got your protocol figured out like you've,

616
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 3: you've you're you're the most responsible artist I've ever seen

617
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 3: on the road in my life.

618
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 4: Right. You know, most people come to come to town,

619
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 4: they want to hang out, they get drunk, they want

620
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 4: to party. Magic's in and he's out.

621
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and that's what it is. I'm here for

622
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: the music, the business, and the fans.

623
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

624
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: I'm not here, you know, to hold around to get drunk,

625
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: none of that stuff. That's never been my thing, you know.

626
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: I've always had a problem when they take something something

627
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 1: awful and they put a good name on it and

628
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: then and then make you eat the garbage because it's

629
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: got a pretty name, like getting drunk, killing somebody, drinking

630
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: and driving, somebody taking a knife at you, which my

631
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: nephew's gone through it because they were drunk and had

632
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: an argument at a cemetery. But that's just an awful

633
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: thing that causes bad things. And then they call it, oh,

634
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: it's partying. Yeah, you see, they put a pretty name

635
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: on a horrible thing, right, And I have a problem

636
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:02,479
Speaker 1: with that.

637
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 4: You know.

638
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 1: I've seen coming from the projects and seeing you know,

639
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: men beat their wives and seeing family fall apart, and

640
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: and I just, man, I just I can't sit with it.

641
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: I can't sit with it. Uh. And and you know,

642
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: this is probably one of the reasons why my fans

643
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: continue to come back, because that's not what we push.

644
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: You're not gonna catch me, you know, uh in a

645
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: nightclub anymore.

646
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 4: That's just I mean, you're pushing love. Man.

647
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 3: I was always say you like you're you're pushing love

648
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 3: music like positivity.

649
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

650
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: Love is the best, Love is the most magic there is.

651
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 3: Brother, Yeah, talk to me about so I've had recently.

652
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say I'm definitely not necessarily a I'm definitively

653
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 3: not a Trump supporter, but I'm definitely not a fucking

654
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 3: Biden supporter anymore. And I've seen I've seen you up

655
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 3: under the comments on a lot of posts. Uh huh

656
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 3: politically where like like because because I think a lot

657
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 3: of people will cast the right as racist. Yeah, and

658
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 3: then the left is the party of the love. And

659
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 3: I think that at the end of the day, I

660
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 3: think we've all been guilty of like writing off either side.

661
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Speaker 4: Yeah, what are your thoughts on? Just like because I've

662
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 4: seen you in the comments, I get hell for it,

663
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 4: you get help for it. But just like you know,

664
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 4: with Trump, I feel like, you know, I think that

665
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 4: we have like a four year example of him being president.

666
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: We still we already know what it was like and

667
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: we didn't get in any New Wars, and now we

668
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: know what it was like under Biden too.

669
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Speaker 4: Right, exactly right.

670
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Speaker 3: So you know I always tell people, I'm like, look, man,

671
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 3: like either side is not the boogey man. We're still here, right,

672
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 3: he didn't take over the government he left, you know

673
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like we didn't.

674
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 4: We weren't in any New Wars.

675
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 3: Like it's it's okay to give credit where credits due.

676
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 3: I think some people get wrapped up in the meanness.

677
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: Of everybody tells me magic, don't talk politics, don't get

678
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: into politics. Don't do it. Don't start, you know, saying

679
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: you're a Trump supporter. But let me, let me just

680
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: bring it to the very basic you know, is I

681
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: was born in Mexico, bro, and so I came to America.

682
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: And when my dad and when my dad and mom

683
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: broke up, the government took care of me. The government

684
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: gave us food stamps, The government gave us free cheese,

685
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: you know, powdered milk to survive. This is where I

686
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: come from, right, and so this this, this country gave

687
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: me something good. So obviously I love this country for

688
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: what it's given me. I'm living the American dream. Sure,

689
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: I'm living the American dream.

690
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 4: Quite literally because of because we have free enterprise.

691
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: You're living in the American dream.

692
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 4: Like this podcast.

693
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: You don't have to get a government permission to start

694
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: your podcast. So what the left is doing, they're moving

695
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: closer and closer to controlling everything. They're moving. You know,

696
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: when I say the left, I mean the democ Radit

697
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: partner right now. Okay, So that being said, that being said,

698
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: that's why I love to keep what was good for

699
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: this country. And a lot of people are emotionally driven,

700
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: and so when the left tells you.

701
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 4: Oh he's racist.

702
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: That gets you emotionally, like, oh my god, he said

703
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: this about blacks. Oh my god, he did this to

704
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: the Mexicans. Oh my god. He hates people that are

705
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: crossing the border. But the people that were crossing the

706
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: border when I came across, they really wanted the American dream.

707
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: The people that are crossing the border now they want

708
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: to murder Americans. You see what I'm saying. There's a

709
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: big difference of what's going on.

710
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 3: I think I think we got like like there's like

711
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Speaker 3: I think the one I just saw an interview with

712
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Speaker 3: the president of El Salvador, who has cleaned up El

713
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 3: salve Yes, he's.

714
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Speaker 1: G he went from the worst country in the world

715
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: to the best.

716
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 3: It was the most dangerous country in the Western Hemisphere,

717
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 3: more dangerous than Haiti, and now it is the safest

718
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 3: country in the Western Hemisphere with lower murder rates in

719
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 3: the United States.

720
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 4: Right.

721
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 3: And so what he did was anybody who was a

722
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 3: part of the two major gangs out there, Yeah, I

723
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 3: don't want to say them by name, but you know

724
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 3: they're all in jail.

725
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 4: Right.

726
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 3: But then he also in this interview, he did he

727
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 3: said anybody who was had been in America or.

728
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 4: Wanted to go back.

729
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,239
Speaker 3: I just sent I send him back, like make your

730
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 3: way to Maria. And they're also and Amelia Rojas was

731
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 3: telling me that they also were doing that in Venezuela,

732
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 3: where certain people who had longer prison sentences, they'd let

733
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 3: him out as long.

734
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: As they asked the country they made.

735
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 4: They promised to make their way out of the countries. Crazy.

736
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 4: Now I'm not saying obviously.

737
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 3: You know, I've had people close to me that have

738
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 3: came over recently that are here for work.

739
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 4: You know, there is good people, but everybody there is

740
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 4: this huge spike of people coming in see that we've

741
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 4: never seen before.

742
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I explained this, and and and to somebody in

743
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: this way say, for instance, uh, you have a daughter.

744
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: You have a daughter, and she's beautiful. You want to

745
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: protect her, but there's somebody on the outside that wants

746
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: to get your daughter from you, Okay, and then they

747
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: tell they tell the daughter's mom. You know, Kevin's a piece.

748
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: You know how people are hating against the government, against America,

749
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: Like there's people burning flags of this great country.

750
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Speaker 4: Actually, I think a lot of that shits set up

751
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 4: to be fair.

752
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: And exactly that's exactly my point. Just so let's go

753
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: back to your daughter. Right, So there's an outsider who

754
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: wants to murder your daughter, who wants to probably rape

755
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: your daughter.

756
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you had you.

757
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: Have a good family, you have a good country, you

758
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: have a good thing. And so what they do is

759
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: they first turn her against you. Your daddy's been doing this,

760
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: So that's what that's an agenda that's going on from

761
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: the outside so they can finally murder and rape your daughter.

762
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: Her name is America, right, Okay, you feel what I'm saying,

763
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: And that's the agenda that that really you know, you

764
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: know on radio, in radio, when they put songs on

765
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: the heavy rotation, you love them because you hear them

766
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: a lot.

767
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 4: That's called programming. Oh, that's what they do to us

768
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 4: with the news. The news is.

769
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: Programming people to hate their own country. Sure, you know,

770
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: to say whatever was good, they're gonna turn it into bad.

771
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: Even the Bible says that believe in the days where

772
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: good will be bad and bad will be good. We

773
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: have good artists praising the devil on their records, right right, right,

774
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: right right.

775
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 4: You know, this whole.

776
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: Agenda is serious and it's taking people's souls and lives,

777
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: and it's gonna ruin what was once a beautiful, free country.

778
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 4: That's why I support Trump. Yeah, I support I feel

779
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 4: like both.

780
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 3: If you look at everyone's donors on both sides, they're

781
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 3: pretty much the same, which to me is the problem.

782
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they divide us on like this. The part

783
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 4: was accept except except.

784
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: What Donald Trump has called out George Sorols by name.

785
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want them to each tell Blackrock to

786
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 3: fuck off respectfully and Larry Fink.

787
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 4: But nonetheless they're all part of the same team. But

788
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 4: that's I mean, all the same.

789
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: They're running the world.

790
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 4: Yes, my way is what they do is.

791
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: They and Biden is their puppet.

792
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 3: They take the twenty percent of things we all disagree

793
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 3: on up right, whether it's racial stuff, whether it's gun control,

794
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 3: whether it's abortion. They put it in a ball and

795
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 3: they throw it and then everyone goes and chases it while.

796
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: Over here, yes, well it's divide and conquer right there.

797
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 4: And so that's what they did with your daughter, right,

798
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 4: They divided you guys.

799
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: Now they conquered you guys. So that's what they're doing

800
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: with America. They're separating everybody there, even staged protests that

801
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: are going on in colleges.

802
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 4: All that stuff is being well.

803
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 3: I feel like even like recently there was the pro Palestinian,

804
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 3: the protest gays Regazza.

805
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 4: That one, no, no, no, it was.

806
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 3: It was when Yahoo was at the Senate and there

807
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 3: was like they were protesting, but the dudes who were

808
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 3: like lighting shit on fire were like random white dudes.

809
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 3: They were hired who nobody could fucking find on the internet.

810
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 3: And there was brown people trying to stop the dude

811
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 3: from setting the flag on fire.

812
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 4: It was easy because they got but how was it

813
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 4: The cameras were ready for when the guys set the

814
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 4: fucking flag on fire.

815
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: They had more press than than that. And Yahoo thing.

816
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: Exactly crazy booms like you turned on CNN and it's

817
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 3: like you see this guy burning this flag.

818
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: But the programming is going on. Not only it was

819
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,439
Speaker 1: easy for them to get there because the borders were open.

820
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 3: It's crazy, man, It's it's it's wild. Who are you

821
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 3: a fan of?

822
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 4: Man?

823
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 3: Obviously you got O T And Drody and Jenny six

824
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 3: nine on the album, But is there anybody else and

825
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 3: shots of Coyote? Is there anybody else who you're just like,

826
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 3: you know, wanting to work with from this newer generation

827
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 3: of artists.

828
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: I'm always down to work. I really want to get

829
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 1: a record in with I just I just forgot his name.

830
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: The hottest kid in l A. I just met him

831
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 1: not long ago. Lefty No, no, no, thet the real

832
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: he's really making like moves. He just did a record

833
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: with U with dres Oh, Roddy Rag Sorry, Rowdy man.

834
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: I I met him the other day. He's fire and

835
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: he was surprised that I knew he was.

836
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 4: I love Rowdy.

837
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: I want to get a record in with him and

838
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: with Dregs too. Rex Dope to get a record brother,

839
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: his brother.

840
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 4: Is popping y. What's this, I forget his name. What's

841
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 4: his name, Drex's.

842
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: Brother Negro something.

843
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah no so yeah yeah.

844
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: I love Rowdy and I love drugs too. I like

845
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: their little movement when it comes to hip hop. But

846
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: my ultimate feature keV is really more r and b Ish,

847
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: more emcy magic ish, more like shadd is my ultimate.

848
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 3: That's the one concert if I could my dream concerts

849
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 3: to see her live. Of course, I don't know if

850
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 3: you ever tour again, but man shot a live.

851
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think like back in. I want to say

852
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: two thousand I'm just say twenty fourteen for lack of

853
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 1: a better year. She had a concert coming up here

854
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: in Phoenix. We bought tickets and my wife said, I'm

855
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: gonna put them away so we don't lose them. She

856
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: lost the tickets and couldn't find them, and three years,

857
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: four maybe four years after the concerts, she's like, oh,

858
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 1: here's they were my sock drawer.

859
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 3: That's crazy. How active are you? Obviously you have your son,

860
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 3: you have Jay Rocks. How active are you in trying

861
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 3: to just bring new music to your label, whether it's

862
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 3: a single deal.

863
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'm about quality, not quantity. So I'm

864
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: not like trying to chase everybody. Not only that. Just

865
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: like I told you earlier with Jenny, I have a

866
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: moral meter, you know, if the dudes, if the dudes

867
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: get getting on the mic and I can't play it

868
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: for my mom, I can't play it at the family barbecue.

869
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: Rather not. I'm not starving just to make a little

870
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 1: bit of money off of anybody. I'm not a major label,

871
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: you know. I just rather put quality than quantity. So

872
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: if somebody really stands out like Jay Rocks did and

873
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: impresses me, and you know, I might take a chance

874
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: on that, because it takes a lot to really develop

875
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: an artist. Artist development is not easy. It takes long

876
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: branding an artist, learning how to brand and teaching them

877
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 1: all these things as well. It's not easy. And everyone

878
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 1: comes in with a mindset already. So so you're obviously

879
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: not going to hear any any street gang rap on

880
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: my label and it's not going to happen because I

881
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: don't I don't need to be in that world.

882
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 4: Not for sure, And it's not it wouldn't be true

883
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 4: to what you do.

884
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: It's not true to me. Yeah, you're sure, you know.

885
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 3: Yo, You've were kind of the I feel like you

886
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 3: were going live with your fans. Before going live with

887
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 3: your fans was a thing, yes on Facebook. It was

888
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 3: on Facebook, yes, And now obviously everybody goes live on

889
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 3: indem Yes, So it's like it's like obviously it's like expected.

890
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, how much.

891
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 3: Like are you noticing like new because because you go

892
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 3: to one of your shows and they'll.

893
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,959
Speaker 4: Be like like a lot of young people there.

894
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: Eighty percent of my crowd are like fourteen to twenty five.

895
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 3: And so it's it's crazy to think that, like as

896
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 3: somebody who's been out for thirty years, right, Yeah, that

897
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: you're able to still gain these new fans. What are

898
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 3: what are the things you're doing? Is it the is

899
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: it the parents? Is it the social media? Like you

900
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 3: know some parents are playing in the car.

901
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: I think it's a combination of that. But of the

902
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 1: one of the things that everybody still tells me. Most

903
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: of my fans, I watch your TikTok every time you

904
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: go live. Wow, So I tik talk live, TikTok Live.

905
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: It used to be Facebook, but Facebook got greedy with

906
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: the audience and they started capping the audience smaller and

907
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: smaller and smaller. They want you to spend money on

908
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: them instead of giving you your actual followers. You know,

909
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: I got one point four million followers on there, and

910
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: and if I put up a post, I get eight likes.

911
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 3: No, Facebook's the worst because they want you to they

912
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 3: want you to press the ad on them.

913
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the virality factor is better on TikTok right now.

914
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: It could change, It could change. And so yeah, my

915
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: fans catch me on TikTok live and I take phone

916
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: calls live.

917
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 4: Which is kind of dope. But radio, Yeah, it's like.

918
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 1: Old school radio and they call in and they get

919
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: so excited.

920
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I died like three hundred times. You

921
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 4: picked up.

922
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: That just feels so good.

923
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 4: You know you got like a separate cell phone line

924
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 4: for that.

925
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 1: I got four lines, four of them. Yeah, I got

926
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: four lines in my studio and they rotate. Obviously we

927
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: had just one line. It would get crowded, wouldn't.

928
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 4: Oh, I bet that's dope. What has been like for

929
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 4: you so far?

930
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 3: Your favorite era of your career because you've done the

931
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 3: low Rider shows, when Low Writer shows were crazy, Yeah,

932
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 3: all the way up into doing like these newer shows

933
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 3: with Basher with them be Riders. Like, what's been kind

934
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 3: of like your favorite era of your career?

935
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: My favorite era is when I was starting going from

936
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: the Swap Meet to getting my first album on right,

937
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: you know, the coming out the Phex the Lost and Love.

938
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: That was my favorite artistic era. This is my favorite

939
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: era now because I'm in full control m So. I

940
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 1: went through eras where people were robbing me and making

941
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 1: millions off of this and that and dividing my group.

942
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 1: It was just so much dividing and conquer a bunch

943
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: of that. But this is my favorite now because I'm

944
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: really in the driver's seat and I like that. I

945
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: like I'm a control freak.

946
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 4: Call shots.

947
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, are.

948
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 4: You still doing the makeup and all that good stuff?

949
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely?

950
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 4: Yeah. I would say, is there is there anything new

951
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,439
Speaker 4: that you've id to the line? That's yes.

952
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: Before Christmas, Me and Jay Rox have a collapse palette

953
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: coming that is phenomenal. It's phenomenal. We worked on it

954
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: so hard. It's taken about a year to develop because

955
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: of the detailed intricacies. It's not just your average palette.

956
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: It's a collector's item.

957
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 4: So you got the makeup, you have us, the Bluetooth speakers, Bluetooth.

958
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 4: What else is what else? The hoodies go good?

959
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: The beanies go good? What else we got on the website?

960
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 4: Oh?

961
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 1: The tumblers, the diamond tumblrs.

962
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 4: You got the tumblrs.

963
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, they gang bang, they go, they do good.

964
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 4: I bet hey yo yo ma.

965
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: I mean everybody drinks Starbucks.

966
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 4: I just get the cup from Starbucks I need to

967
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 4: get I do have a tumble.

968
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: Girls like to have their own personal right, you know

969
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. For sure, you know you don't want

970
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: to be like on a straw with nobody else's lips.

971
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 3: They're going it, you know, what what's something that you know,

972
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 3: you and a NBI riders. You guys did the reunion era,

973
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 3: which was about it.

974
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 4: I feel like it was one year a year.

975
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it's twenty nineteen because we're to go

976
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: into twenty twenty. And then they pulled a plug on us.

977
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see them still doing stuff together. I just

978
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 3: saw them pop up on my timeline doing a live

979
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 3: show with just them two was How was that experience

980
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 3: because like you, I know, you guys had had like

981
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 3: a bit of a soured relationship.

982
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: Yeah past, I mean, you know what, God bless them. Yeah,

983
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: God bless them. That's all I can say on that.

984
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's an old era.

985
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 4: But I'm saying it was you guys hitting the road

986
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 4: again together. Did it? Did it? Did it patch anything up?

987
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 4: Did it kind of show you?

988
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 3: Maybe I was I've been on the right path this

989
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 3: whole time, just focusing on my own thing.

990
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 4: Like one of the there's two reasons that I did it.

991
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: Number one is because they kept asking me, man, let's

992
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 1: get back together. Let's get back together. It'd be dope

993
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: if like my family could come to one of our

994
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: concerts because they hadn't been doing anything for us. So

995
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 1: that was one reason I did it, you know, from

996
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: from Okay you the homies want this, you know. And

997
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: the other reason is I thought it would take my

998
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: concert attendance level through the roof, that I'd go from

999
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: from a twenty five hundred seater to an arena. But

1000
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: they just didn't do that.

1001
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 4: It didn't happen.

1002
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: They didn't do that. So we just and and fortunately

1003
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: God stepped in. He threw the pandemic at us and

1004
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: he says, look, look, look you'll find you're you're doing

1005
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: fine by yourself.

1006
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 4: And that's what happened. You guys would never do a

1007
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 4: single together, was it?

1008
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 1: Never again?

1009
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 4: Never again?

1010
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: Never again?

1011
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 4: You're good?

1012
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm good. I mean yeah, yeah, I'm good. I'm good.

1013
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 3: Has anybody tried to sample your ship that you had

1014
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 3: to stop because you didn't like it?

1015
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: It's funny that you say that, but because usually if

1016
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: they sample it, they'll ask they'll ask me to get

1017
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: on it. So that's an automatic. You know. There's this

1018
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: kid in New Mexico. He did his his version of

1019
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: pretty Girl. It's called uh something about You Uh, featuring

1020
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: his niece singing on the track. He sent it to

1021
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: me and and I was I was happy that they

1022
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: were doing it, and so they had no samples. I

1023
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: gave him a verse and put some talk box on it,

1024
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: and yeah, get just to have it.

1025
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 4: It's a gift. That's a gift.

1026
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: I don't need no royalties, I don't even know ride,

1027
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: a credit, nothing have it. So to me, that's that's

1028
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: a better thing to do is just give it a blessing.

1029
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: And you know, because God sees everything.

1030
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 3: Do you feel like I feel it's crazy because I

1031
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 3: heard that bounce and I was like, Yo, this feels

1032
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 3: like this feels like a fucking like a real hit, you.

1033
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying. And it's got the talk box

1034
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 4: on it.

1035
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 1: Yes, that's a that's a that's a good compliment, thank you.

1036
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 3: No, for sure, it's a banger, you know what I'm saying.

1037
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 3: And like I feel like I feel like the talk

1038
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 3: box is something that's kind of missing in hip hop now,

1039
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 3: even on West Coast artist albums. I'm like, man, like,

1040
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 3: I feel like that's missing, Like ye, like just a

1041
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 3: little bit of that, like like Troutman love, you know

1042
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 3: what I'm.

1043
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: Saying, Yes, rest in peace, Roger Troutman, my hero. When

1044
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: it comes to the talk box and I was talking

1045
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: to to Coyote. I was talking to Coyote to Guappo,

1046
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, I think what you guys

1047
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: need is like something similar to Bounce, but a little more,

1048
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: a little more West Coast. Yes, and let's work on that.

1049
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: Let's get that together for you. He goes, I'm down, magic,

1050
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,919
Speaker 1: let's do it. So I want to give them their

1051
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: They're really explosive there, Johnny, Dang, you know.

1052
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 4: I gotta be dope. That'd be dope.

1053
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 2: Man.

1054
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 4: Have you gotten a platinum or gold single? Yeah? I

1055
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 4: feel like sexy ladies should be gone. I think it is.

1056
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: I just don't look into those things.

1057
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 4: You got it, you got it? Yeah, I think it's

1058
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 4: has to be platinum by now.

1059
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it probably is. It's probably is. You gotta just

1060
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: I just don't look into it.

1061
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 4: keV, you got to go on that. Ri I a

1062
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 4: A yeah, I get it certified.

1063
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: I just got so much going on, and I have so.

1064
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 3: Many such a big symbol for like not just for

1065
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 3: your career, but fe like Arizona.

1066
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I might look into it, like you're.

1067
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 3: Gonna be able to be like, look, guys, I want

1068
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 3: to plant them independently. I want to plant them independently.

1069
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, you know what I'm saying.

1070
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: See, but and you're you're mentioning people that really for

1071
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: my artistic career don't matter to me.

1072
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 4: The fans matter, for sure.

1073
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 3: I think like I think you're like a beacon of

1074
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,720
Speaker 3: hope for a lot of people in Phoenix.

1075
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll take that. That's a big compliment too, for sure.

1076
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 3: I think like anytime we always talk about, like even

1077
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 3: on my show, like we always talk about like who's

1078
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 3: I'm like, you always got to put magic in the conversation.

1079
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 3: Like to me, you're the goat of Arizona. Whether or

1080
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 3: not people want to say, oh so and so wraps

1081
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: better or whatever, whatever, it's like, it doesn't matter.

1082
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 4: Like magic's taking like he's torn right now.

1083
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: And that's hard for me because you're talking about rap

1084
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 1: and I'm not.

1085
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 4: Like like a rapper rap right, But to me, you still.

1086
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get on. I'm gonna like and just

1087
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: ah son No.

1088
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 3: But I just mean in terms of like obviously what

1089
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 3: you've meant and like you've shown more like you've put

1090
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 3: more of a light on the city than anybody ever.

1091
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 4: You're still toring.

1092
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,479
Speaker 3: There's not another artist out of Arizona's doing one hundred

1093
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 3: dates a year selling out right.

1094
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 1: Man, that I just take the compliment. I said thank you.

1095
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: I just say thank you. But I'm not looking to

1096
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: go announce that to anybody, right, that's this is not

1097
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: my thing.

1098
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 4: You got to get that plaque.

1099
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: Man, It's not my thing.

1100
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 4: It's there. It's any boy. Should we go for placks

1101
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 4: or what it's it's the plaques exist. I have to

1102
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 4: by the way, people care, bro, I'm telling you. People

1103
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 4: are gonna look at that shit and be like, yo,

1104
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 4: that's crazy.

1105
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: This logo was originally made for his brand. Oh shit,

1106
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: it was originally made for his brand.

1107
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 4: And I liked this so much. Like that's the album cover.

1108
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: He said, God Bless Northern because that's his brand, God Brest.

1109
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: You know, he grew up on Northern and uh in

1110
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: Seventh Street and Northern out there in Phoenix.

1111
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 3: Shot to Seventh Street and Northern. I grew up on

1112
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 3: fourteenth Avenue in dunlap.

1113
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 4: Oh, I know where the lap is. I know where

1114
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 4: the lap is. It's sunny slope.

1115
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: Yes. So anyway, he's the one that designed this whole

1116
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: thing for his brand and I'm like, let me borrow it,

1117
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: let's do it, let's do a T shirt drop together.

1118
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: And then when they called me from the from the

1119
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: interscope and said you're good to go this Friday, I'm like,

1120
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna go. We're just gonna go with this.

1121
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 4: Oh wow. So the album cover and all that really

1122
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 4: really kind of came together in.

1123
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 3: A week because it felt like it did feel like

1124
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 3: it kind of came like out of nowhere.

1125
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 4: To be fair, yeah, like I knew you you guys had.

1126
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 3: Those records together because I talked to Ot and his

1127
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 3: dad a lot. But it did feel like, oh shit,

1128
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 3: this MC magic album.

1129
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, And I want to shout out other artists

1130
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: on the album too. I love discovering artists that are

1131
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: not that popular that have talent and put them on.

1132
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: So this is a little girl named Alondra Santos. She

1133
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: sings on the record with me and Jenny sixty nine

1134
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: on You and Me. And there's also of course Trish

1135
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 1: Toledo who's been known to sing oldies and stuff. We

1136
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: got a song called Nobody Knows. We got a phenomenal

1137
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: video for that song. Nope, it's phenomenal. And I'm just excited,

1138
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: and I'm excited for people to see Pretty Girl twenty four.

1139
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 4: Yo. I also think you gotta do like a new

1140
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 4: Magic City album next. You think so Magic City would

1141
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 4: be part three, right, it would be three?

1142
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, Magic City Part three?

1143
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1144
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 3: Hey man, I always tell the story, but I've definitely

1145
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 3: got an early copy of Magic City back in the

1146
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 3: day and was selling it at the swap.

1147
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 1: I made you some money, cat, yeah, you did well.

1148
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: I was bootlegging two. I just didn't go with the brand.

1149
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 4: It's so crazy, like for people who don't know like

1150
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 4: you really like legitimately started your career. There's a swabeat

1151
00:48:59,239 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 4: in Arizona.

1152
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 3: It's on fortieth Street in Washington, and you.

1153
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 4: Were there every week, was it? Because Wednesday nights were cracking?

1154
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1155
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 3: And then Friday, Saturday, Sunday, well, Saturday and Sunday were

1156
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 3: really in the days.

1157
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: Right, Saturday and Sunday were the main days.

1158
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 4: Uh. And then Wednesday night you can go buy a car?

1159
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: You right, No, And I started going on Wednesday night

1160
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: that was.

1161
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 4: Like super pist to night for show, Like Wednesday was.

1162
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: More Bison, but the Swapman became super Bison for sure.

1163
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: In general. Yeah, yeah, because's where I got myos now brother.

1164
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I haven't been to this. I haven't been

1165
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 3: to that swap meet probably in like six years.

1166
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a long time. One of the homies

1167
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 1: that let us use his spot. Shout out to my

1168
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: man Abe on the South Side Tacos. He let us

1169
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: use his spot to do the photo shoot you know

1170
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: some of the photos that we used with the album launch.

1171
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: We took him in South Phoenix at Guesswave and and

1172
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 1: he's like magic. I got this vision that you come

1173
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: back to the swap Meat and people can go get

1174
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: a take for you, just for one day.

1175
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 4: That'd be fire.

1176
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: And my wife said, you know, that's a smart idea.

1177
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 3: That's not a bad idea. Yeah, because you guys have

1178
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 3: hard copies the album.

1179
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 1: Yet they're on the way. They're on the way, dude.

1180
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 3: You should do that one day. Get the radio stations involved.

1181
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 3: I don't know if Gio. I forget the name of

1182
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 3: the lady who used to run the swap me, but

1183
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 3: she kicked me out.

1184
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: At least Nica.

1185
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 3: Monica kicked me out of that motherfucker fifteen times. I

1186
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 3: used to have to send my parents to get the

1187
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 3: space and then.

1188
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 4: You can't sell those burn CDs. Bro I literally used

1189
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 4: to have to send different people to buy the space

1190
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 4: in the morning under their name. I'd be like, yoyo,

1191
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 4: go get the space. That's a real hustler. Oh yeah.

1192
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 3: And then even the one in Tucsonic got kicked out

1193
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 3: Tonki Vertie swapped.

1194
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

1195
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 3: The one that I never got no smoke at was

1196
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 3: the one on Buckeye, the one on like thirty Fi.

1197
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 3: They didn't give a fuck over there. You're gonna sell

1198
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 3: whatever the fuck you wanted over there. That's the real

1199
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 3: piece of swap meat for sure. The one by Carl Hayden,

1200
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 3: that's the one.

1201
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, just knowing to Carl Hayden. Just when you say

1202
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: Carl Hayden, they're like on Roosevelt.

1203
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 3: You know what's so crazy is I just saw recently

1204
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 3: that a few years ago, I had no idea that

1205
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 3: this happened, that they made a fucking movie with George

1206
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 3: Lopez about Carl Hayden High school.

1207
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 4: Yeah. I didn't know that the Underground Water Team or

1208
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 4: something like that. Yeah, some some sort of robot team

1209
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 4: or some shit roy under Yeah. I was like, they

1210
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 4: got a fucking movie about.

1211
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: Carl Heyten Hayden High School.

1212
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 4: And George Lopez shout out falcons. She where did you

1213
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 4: go to high school?

1214
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: I started at East High School.

1215
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 4: It doesn't exist anymore. I started at East High School.

1216
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 1: That was my freshman year, and then the government gave

1217
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: my mom a bigger house, but she had to move

1218
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: to Avondale. So then I finished up my sophomore, junior,

1219
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:42,959
Speaker 1: senior year in Avondale on the far west side.

1220
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 3: So when you were growing up, like grade school, middle school,

1221
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 3: where were you at?

1222
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: I was in the projects at Cofeld, So I went

1223
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: to Hamilton. It's called Hamilton now, but it was called

1224
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: Murphy three back then.

1225
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 4: So what like, what are your crossroads growing up?

1226
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: Buckeye and Nineteenth Avenue. Oh, Jesus, Carlito's Market, that's the Funneteenth.

1227
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 3: Still is by, I believe it. Buckeye in nineteenth Avenue

1228
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 3: hasn't gotten any better.

1229
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 4: I actually don't think anything up and down Nineteenth Avenue's

1230
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 4: ever gotten better. Businesses that where their clothes bro Nineteenth

1231
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 4: Avenue as a street in Arizona is just fucking doomed.

1232
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 4: I don't know what's I think twenty seventh Avenue's overtaking

1233
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 4: it if you just go up and down twenty seventh, Yeah,

1234
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 4: twenty seventh is pretty bod Nineteenth Avenue fucked. I don't

1235
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 4: matter where you're at, you be on nineteen Avenue. You're right,

1236
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 4: it's fucked up and down done left to baseline, Hey,

1237
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 4: baseline of seventh Street? What's up? Jesus man? All right?

1238
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 4: So look, the new album is out. People can go

1239
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 4: get the merch.

1240
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 3: Hard copies are on the way. I'm assuming you've got

1241
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 3: tons of shows coming up, and we.

1242
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: Got a ton of gang of shows. Just go to

1243
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: mcmagic dot world for all the links.

1244
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 4: What has been the coolest place? Like?

1245
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 3: Have you have you because you have your places you

1246
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 3: always go, right, has there been a new place you've

1247
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 3: gone recently where you're like, oh shit, like, uh, we

1248
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 3: got booked where oh.

1249
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, we went to Tapa, Florida and it was Banana.

1250
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: I just saw that we went to Tampa, Florida and

1251
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: I lived in Tampa. Yes, yeah, and it was crazy bootleg.

1252
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 1: Matter of fact that the promoters that wasn't the show

1253
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: that we promoted. The promoter said, we didn't expect this

1254
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: type of turnout, and they told us that last night,

1255
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: not last night, two nights ago. They told us that

1256
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: in Brighton, Colorado, Adams County Fair. They expected five hundred people,

1257
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: We had like ten thousand people.

1258
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 4: What the fuck? Yeah, Tampa's got the worst Mexican food

1259
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 4: in America. Thanks for the heads up.

1260
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: Can.

1261
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 3: I lived there, and I tell you I scratched every

1262
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 3: single nook and cranny place.

1263
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: I'll definitely be going to Jersey Mike's when I get

1264
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: to Tampa.

1265
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 4: Get Cuban food. They got a place called Taco Bus.

1266
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 4: That is what everyone thinks is good. If you live

1267
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 4: in Tampa and you asked someone from Tampa, yeah, where's

1268
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 4: some Mexican food at they were, with the straight face,

1269
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 4: point you to a taco bell. Damn, I get there's

1270
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 4: a Taco bell over there.

1271
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: Not real Mexican food.

1272
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 3: Do you think Southern California has better Mexican food than Arizona?

1273
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: Personally, I'm from Arizona. So I'm gonna I'm gonna go

1274
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: with a Z.

1275
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 4: I go there, I go.

1276
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Ez.

1277
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 3: I always say by the Fall, I'll always give it

1278
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 3: to just because San Diego's like right there.

1279
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 1: San Diego's got real good food, but LA's got king

1280
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: Taco Yeah.

1281
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 3: I actually, you know what I don't like about La

1282
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 3: and obviously the outskirts of La they have.

1283
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 4: We don't have a Philibertos. We don't have a twenty

1284
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 4: four hour Wow. Like I'm telling you, in La, there

1285
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 4: is not a twenty four hour Mexican place you could

1286
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 4: pull up and get a carnisarrazy. It does not exist.

1287
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: But you know what a lot of that is because

1288
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: there's so many, so many hustling trucks. The food trucks

1289
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: are everywhere.

1290
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 4: But the food trucks are open twenty.

1291
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: Four hours, but I've seen them open late.

1292
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 4: They'll be open to about two three am.

1293
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: Okay.

1294
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 4: But my whole thing, I'm like, dude and a Z.

1295
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 4: You can't you fall into a twenty four hour Philipbertos.

1296
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 4: And like Phillies is by the way, I joy Phillies.

1297
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 4: He called Philiberto Phillies, but like, hey, you do, got

1298
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 4: a relationship with them, But I love Phillies. Like the

1299
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 4: thing is is like it's it's like there's better food

1300
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 4: for sure, yeah, but it's just dependable.

1301
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 1: Yeah. Back when I lived on on on forty third

1302
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 1: Avenue and Cactus, there was a place called Rolando's. Oh yeah,

1303
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: Rolando's went hard. They had the best toy soak on

1304
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: Wells and Gesso Burrito and the best.

1305
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 3: The best hot dogs are in Arizona. They started in Tucson. Facts.

1306
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 3: There's that place on twentieth Street in the Indian School.

1307
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 3: There's a fucking cart. Oh my god.

1308
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, that's one o. The hot dogs are

1309
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: definitely definitely an easy.

1310
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 3: I try to tell people because I'll tell them like, yeah, nah,

1311
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 3: the ship that you when you leave the Crypto dot

1312
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 3: com arena and there's the ladies with the carts selling

1313
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 3: the bacon rate wrapped hot dogs and not the same thing.

1314
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 3: I wish it was, for sure, man. Right with the

1315
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 3: new album is out, everyone goes support it. Uh mc

1316
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 3: magic world dot.

1317
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: Com mcmagic dot world not dot com world, got world, okay?

1318
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 4: Yeah? And how often you go live?

1319
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: I try to go at least once a week, but

1320
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: when when I have enough free time, I'll do twice

1321
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:09,919
Speaker 1: a week.

1322
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 4: Okay.

1323
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: You know. Sometimes after after church on Sunday, I'll go

1324
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: live again in the evening. You know, it's a good time.

1325
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: I try to give them as much as possible because

1326
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 1: they've given me so much.

1327
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 3: I love it, man, mc magic, I appreciate you pulling

1328
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 3: up buddy. Illove you boy, Yes sir, love you too.

1329
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 4: Man Fire