1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal. 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 2: For me, I'm a man, I'm for I've heard so 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 2: many players say, well, I want to be happy. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: You want to be happy for day Edith State is 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: that woo woom? And Dan and Tye Dan Rubinstein. As 6 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: you know, we ask for feedback on nearly every episode 7 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: of this podcast that we've done over the years, and 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: we get a lot, overwhelmingly get a lot of it. Yeah, 9 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: Today we are going to test out one of those 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: concepts that has been sent to us a great many 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: times over the years. We're going to remove the shackles 12 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 1: of the NC double A and the transfer portal and 13 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: uh secspn uh huh, sure you name it. Today we 14 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: are doing our version of a Super Bowl preview, My 15 00:00:59,280 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: good friend. 16 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: How are I'm good for anybody counting on us to 17 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: offer any sort of insight about the Super Bowl itself? 18 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 2: Wrong show? Yeah, cannot stress enough. But I'm doing really well. 19 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: You know, I'm thriving in the cold here in the 20 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 2: tundra because this is going to be an exciting, fun 21 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: show that takes us back I guess the last maybe fifteen, fourteen, 22 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: thirteen years or so of college football. 23 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: So I'm doing really well. 24 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: Because I got to relive a bunch of stuff because 25 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 2: we are looking at the Super Bowl through the prism 26 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 2: through the lens of college football and going back and 27 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: remembering some guys who happened to be starting or contributing 28 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: to these Super Bowl teams in the New England Patriots 29 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: and Seattle Seahawks, and I don't know it actually, like 30 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: I don't watch a lot of the NFL. I watch 31 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: a little bit more during the playoffs, but I don't 32 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: really have a guidepost or anything for how these teams 33 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,639 Speaker 2: are and where they're strong and where they're not so strong, 34 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: beyond on like mainstream conversations of like the Seahawks defense 35 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 2: or something. So this actually added a terrific amount of 36 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: context to hopefully enjoy the game even more than I'm 37 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: already planning to. I stress, please. This is our version 38 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 2: of a Super Bowl sixty preview, which inherently means it's 39 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: going to be different than everybody else's. 40 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: That's just how we roll here. But think of it 41 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: less of a preview and more of you know, like 42 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: we talk about look aheads, this is more of a 43 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: look back players stories, how they performed in college, some 44 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: notable moments from when they were in college. And I 45 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: will add, even though to your point, we focus on 46 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: college overwhelmingly here on the podcast, even those times when 47 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: we decide to venture into parts unknown with our conversations, right, 48 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: there are still just a great number of advanced metrics 49 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: that are out there for all of these teams. Like 50 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: you and I are scraping things together. We're accessing dark spreadsheets, 51 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: you name it, to try and get these stats on 52 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: the college side of things. But the one thing the 53 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: NFL does well, they make all of this stuff available. 54 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: So I was actually able to go in there and 55 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: poke around a little bit and get some context on 56 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: the statistical level, sure with what's going to go on 57 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: in this game between the Seattle Seahawks and New England Patriots. 58 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: So I'll leave you in charge of that. I don't 59 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 2: have any thoughts about the game now, I can do 60 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: that we're doing, by the way, and this is especially 61 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: fun because look what we're doing is we're saying, here 62 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: are the college football players playing that happened to be 63 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: playing in this super Bowl. Because the NFL is just 64 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: you know, it's just a number of exhibitions after the 65 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: real careers ended in college. What do these players do 66 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: between Sundays, they make bets when their teams play each other, 67 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: their alma maters play each other, and they have to. 68 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: Like we saw Patrick Mahomes wearing an Oregon jersey after 69 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: Texas Tech lost to Oregon in the playoff, right, Like 70 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: once a Red Raider, always a Red Racee, or once 71 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: a tar Heel, always a tar Heel. And these guys 72 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: go back when they can for big games, for spring games, 73 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: Like there is something about college football that is in 74 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: these players DNA that's just different than being a Kansas 75 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: City Chief, a Chicago Bear, a Tampa Bay Buccaneers, or 76 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: at least I consider that to be the case of 77 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 2: somebody who covers college football. But I think that's true. 78 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: I think there's still more emotion tied to choosing where 79 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: you're going to go to school or where you're going 80 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 2: to transfer to, rather than where you're drafted or where 81 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 2: you're traded to, or where you decide eventually that like, okay, 82 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: this is my best option as a free agent that 83 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: I don't know. There's a lot less romance in college football, 84 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 2: But for a lot of these guys who have thrived 85 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: on the football field, it still seems as if like 86 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: they're all still like in their hearts college football players 87 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 2: who are happy to take the money from the NFL. 88 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: That's my viewpoint. Fair enough. Socerboodgmail dot com, as always, 89 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: is the email address if you want to write in 90 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: with your own predictions, any feedback for the show as 91 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: we I think are or as I think we are 92 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: illustrating on this prog pup, you're good. As I think 93 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: we are illustrating on today's podcast. We are willing to 94 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: take in your feedback sure and put some of those 95 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: suggestions into play. So we're going to give that a 96 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: go today. Verballers dot com again is where you can 97 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: go if you want to support the team, be a 98 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: certified or premium for baller. Just check out to see 99 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: what is going on. But that's not for you, that's cool, 100 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: Hit follow, hit subscribe. We will return you to our 101 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: normally scheduled college football programming next week. Yes, absolutely, should 102 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: we dive in. Let's go, damn time the week they 103 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: can play it, right, I think? So that's fine. Super 104 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: Bowl sixty This Sunday, February the eighth, six thirty pm 105 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: Eastern time. They're playing it at Levi's Stadium in Santa 106 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: Clara California. I have some interesting nuggets on that. Okay, 107 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: this is the second time that Santa Clara has hosted 108 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. Did you know? It is the fourteenth 109 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: time that the super Bowl is being played in the 110 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: great state of California. Did not? That is second only 111 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: to Florida, which has hosted the super Bowl seventeen times. 112 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: Which quick math check, thirty one super Bowls have been 113 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: played in either California or the state of Florida. That 114 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: is over half. That is exactly one super Bowl over 115 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: the halfway point. Most of them are played in one 116 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: of those two states. On the call, we're going to 117 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: have Mike Turico and Chris Collinsworth. Chris Collinsworth has called 118 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: six super Bowls. Interestingly enough, Mike Turrico has never called one. 119 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: You believe that Dude's been everywhere, has done everything, He's 120 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: never done this. So this is going to be Mike 121 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: Ico's first Super Bowl. 122 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: I like Mike Rico, Sarah Orange Turkey, that is Chris 123 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 2: collins with Florida Gator. 124 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: I believe, So yeah, yeah, continue. This is a matchup 125 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: between two teams that are fourteen and three of the 126 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks coming out of the NFC West the New 127 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: England Patriots coming out of the AFC East. Right now 128 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: at time of recording, Seattle favored by about four and 129 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: a half points. I looked last night. It's something like 130 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: sixty five percent of the bets seventy one percent of 131 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: the money right now on the Seattle Seahawks. That line 132 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: is up. I believe it opened around a field goal 133 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: or so. A lot of money came in on the Seahawks, 134 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: and it seems like they are the betting favorite, at 135 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: least among the public betters out there. Another interesting factoid, 136 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: this is the tenth Super Bowl rematch in NFL history, 137 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: meaning they played before in a Super Bowl. The winner 138 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: of the first meeting in previous Super Bowl rematches is 139 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: six and three in the second time around. This one 140 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: is a rematch. They played this game back in twenty fifteen. 141 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: It was one of the great Super Bowls. Actually, Patriots 142 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: is a Malcolm Butler. Yeah, Patriots won twenty eight to 143 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: twenty four. Malcolm Butler intercepted Russell Wilson on the last 144 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: play of the game from the one yard line, which 145 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: would have given Seattle obviously the lead and the win 146 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. But a very dramatic finish. If 147 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: you take that at face value, that would seem to 148 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: benefit quirky stat I get it would seem to benefit 149 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: the New England Patriots in this matchup. There's your I 150 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: guess context for what is going on here. 151 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: I'll add, I'll add so it's Russell Wilson, NC State, 152 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 2: Wisconsin correct, NC State legend, Russell Wilson, teammate of Nate Tice, 153 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: good friend, our spring guests, our spring guest annually, West 154 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 2: Alabama Malcolm Butler, West Alabama Tigers also on the call. 155 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: Should just add Proud who Melissa's a Stark Virginia Wow, Yeah, 156 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 2: Washington and Lee Kaylee Hartong from Baton Rouge, friend of 157 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: the show, Deep Lsu tuies. But I'm just trying to 158 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: spin the college tie. I'm just trying to spin the 159 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: college continue. 160 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: So here's what we did. You and I we broke 161 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: this up a little bit. You took the Seattle Seahawks. 162 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: I took the New England Patriots, and we did a 163 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: deep dive of the players, the schools they went to, 164 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: the stories that come to mind when we think of 165 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: those players, and obviously a bunch more that we found 166 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: when we did some of our homework here. This is, 167 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: in effect a stroll down memory lane. So if you're 168 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: a college football fan, even if you're an NFL fan 169 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: finding this for the first time, we're, as I said 170 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: a couple times now, going to provide a little bit 171 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: of a different spin on the Super Bowl. Why don't 172 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: you kick things off here with the favorite Seattle Seahawks. 173 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: All right, So there's a ton that's super interesting about 174 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: Seahawks players in college. And I took the Seahawks because 175 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: not only am I from the West Coast, but there's 176 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: just a lot of West Coast to this Seattle Seahawks 177 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 2: roster in terms of college and where they grew up. 178 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: How do you feel about the Seahawks as a Niner fan? 179 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: Are you split here a little bit? 180 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: I've told my sons I'm rooting for the Patriots because 181 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 2: a Niners fan just can't root for the Seahawks. But 182 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: after sort of refreshing my memory banks about all of 183 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: these players on the Seahawks, I don't know, man, it's 184 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 2: kind of cool, like and I have Seahawks friends. Remember 185 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 2: we had Mina Chimes on the show and Matt Hufferd. 186 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 2: I go way back with a good friend like, there's 187 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,599 Speaker 2: a lot of Seahawks people in my life, so I 188 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: would be happy for them, given how they lost the 189 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: Patriots Super Bowl the first time. I'm not fully on 190 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: board with rooting for the Seahawks, but it would be 191 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: cool given some of the backgrounds. And I'm sure would 192 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 2: be cool to see the Patriots given some of the 193 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 2: backgrounds that you'll go go over. But the Seahawks are 194 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 2: really interesting just from a college football perspective. Okay, Mike 195 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: McDonald head coach, has extreme college football ties. Was the 196 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one Michigan I believe it was twenty twenty 197 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: one Michigan defensive coordinator and they were excellent, and that 198 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: was the Ravens connection with he and Jesse Minter and 199 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: then bring Martindale and the Harbaugh brothers. He started out, 200 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 2: he went to Georgia. He was a student assistant at Georgia. 201 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: He was coaching in high school while he was a 202 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: student at Georgia, and then got an internship with the 203 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 2: Ravens and worked his way up before taking the one 204 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: year at Michigan as their DC and installing that lethal 205 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 2: zone defense that Michigan ran all the way to a 206 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: national championship. So if the Seahawks win, not only is 207 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 2: it a win for Mike McDonald, but it is a 208 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 2: win for the Todd Grantham coaching trees. I never forget 209 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator Clint Kubiak was a good safety for Colorado 210 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 2: State and was on the staff with first Mike Sherman 211 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 2: and then Kevin Somelin at Texas A and m was 212 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 2: there in twenty twelve as a GA for or the 213 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: Johnny Football Heisman year. 214 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: If you'll oh, that's right, that's right, And he's going 215 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: to be the next coach for the Raiders, isn't he. 216 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: I think that's true. 217 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: Yes, their defensive coordinator is British, so there was no 218 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: specific connection to college football, but a cool story nonetheless, 219 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 2: as he worked his way up the American football ranks, 220 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: you know Sam Donald's going to be the big name 221 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 2: on offense. Sam Donald's was super overlooked for much of 222 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: his recruitment and if you'll remember so USC the class 223 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: that he committed or signed with USC in he was 224 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: kind of an afterthought. He's local, He's from San Clementy, 225 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: and Orange County has like the shaggy hair Orange County 226 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 2: bro look. Played a bunch of sports in high school. 227 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 2: But the name that everybody was excited about going in 228 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: was do you remember this at all that year? It's impossible. 229 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 2: This is like twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, Yeah, Ricky Town. 230 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: So wacky Town committed to Bama, switched to SC junior college, 231 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 2: pitt and Arkansas, so he bounced around a ton, never 232 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: really took hold as a college football quarterback. Sam Donald 233 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: comes in and Max Brown has written about this. Max Brown, 234 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: another five star quarterback for USC, waiting in the wings 235 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: for his turn. After Cody Kessler starts the game against 236 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: Alabama in which Alabama absolutely mummifies USC. Max Brown starts 237 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: that game, gets pulled in that game, and a couple 238 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: starts later, gets pulled in favor of Sam Donald, who's 239 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 2: much younger for USC. Sam Donald never lets go of 240 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: the job and is the high point of the Clay 241 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 2: Helton era as a quarterback, and that sort of his 242 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 2: apex just in terms of national visibility. And he has 243 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 2: big wins. You know, they beat Washington the year Washington 244 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: goes to the playoff, but that Penn State Rose Bowl 245 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 2: was just absurd. Oh man, So I went back. I 246 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 2: think I told you when we were putting this together. 247 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: I went back and I looked at some highlights from 248 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: that game. I mean that was one where say Kwan 249 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: went off, had almost like two hundred yards. That was 250 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: a Chris Guyan game, and you know, USC ended up 251 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: winning it. But all the points, a lot of back 252 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: and forth, exactly what you want from a game like 253 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl. Correct, that was so much fun to watch. Obviously, 254 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: you know I would have hoped for a different result, 255 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: but nonetheless, man, that was that was a lot of fun. 256 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: So yeah, Penn State scores zero points in both the 257 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: first and fourth quarters. They have a double digit lead 258 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter that they gag away a ton 259 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: of turnover. I think Trace mcstirley threw three picks in 260 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: this game. Sam Darmoer, you can see how raw he 261 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 2: is as a quarterback. You can kind of see that. 262 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it's very obviously he's an incredible athlete. He's 263 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 2: got a big arm, but like the it's got like 264 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: kind of a John Elway overhand motion, and he's like 265 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: dirting balls. He's overthrowing open dudes and still finishes with 266 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty yards passing in this game and 267 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: could have gone for five point fifty so that was 268 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 2: an incredible game. Having a great career at USC, I 269 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: believe only starts for two years before entering the draft 270 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: because it just his his stock was too high, not 271 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 2: too but just in terms of where USC has been, 272 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: he was certainly a high point with some up and 273 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: down years in the in the years following and the 274 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: way the Clay Helton era ended. So Sam Donald huge name. 275 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 2: I know, he's bounced around the NFL a little bit 276 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 2: and you know, you get the Jets era and everything 277 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: like that. But a cool story nonetheless for Sam Donald 278 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: on the West Coast to thrive in Seattle. 279 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: Also of note, his grandfather was the Marlborough Man, a genleman. 280 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: But Dick Hammer, right, Dick Hammer. Yeah, that that has 281 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: been an ongoing thing that has been noted. 282 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 2: Needs to be mentioned, needs to be mentioned. There's like 283 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: there's a lot of like college football like guys names 284 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: on this Seattle roster, like Jackson Smith and Jig was 285 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: the other one. I think he's considered to be like 286 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: if he's not the best receiver in the NFL, he's 287 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 2: one of two three something like that. 288 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: There was there was a conversation that they had in 289 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: the booth. It was Tom Brady, who was breaking down 290 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: why JSN is so good at what he does. It 291 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: took him a little bit to kind of get cooking 292 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: in the NFL, but he talked about how he never 293 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: alters the angle of his shoulder pets i e. He's 294 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: not tipping his pitches. He's not showing defenders which direction 295 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: he's going to go next. And given the fact that 296 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: he and we knew this when he was in college 297 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: at Ohio State, this is one of the scouting reports 298 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: when he came out, that he's just so smooth into 299 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: and out of his breaks that if you're a defender, 300 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: he's passed you before you even know it. So you're 301 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: always looking for any kind of tell which direction is 302 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: this guy going to go next. The fact that he 303 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: does not do that is a big part of why 304 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: he has been so damn dominant. Right again, college football 305 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: show right or not exactly deep in the weeds of 306 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: what goes on on the NFL level. But you and 307 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: I both watched the playoffs. I think pretty intently we 308 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: care about that because it's interesting. He is unstoppable right now. 309 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: Teams cannot cover him. He finds a way to get open. 310 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: Maybe not just solely because of that. The Kubiak system 311 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: has been something of a revelation for Sam Darnold and 312 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: really that entire offense, but his ability to sort of 313 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: be that smooth when he is running routes is just 314 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: incredible to watch. And he's gonna have a big game. 315 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: That's one of the things I jotted down here. I 316 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: think he's gonna have a huge game against New England 317 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: and if there is a matchup advantage, this is one 318 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: of those things that I gravitate towards. But jasaid the 319 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: story of JSN this year, in the year that he's 320 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: had something like seventeen hundred receiving yards, I mean, it's 321 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: been it's been a really good year for him. 322 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 2: He exhibits the single most annoying thing for those of 323 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: us who are not naturally elite athletes, and that's doing 324 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 2: what he does effortlessly. Yes, no matter the sport. Right, 325 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 2: if you watch a basketball player who's able to accelerate 326 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: and decelerate on a dime, If you watch a tennis 327 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 2: player who doesn't sweat and can you know, serve a 328 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,719 Speaker 2: ball you know, seven different ways with the same toss 329 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 2: right in baseball, right that if a player is just 330 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: so patient at the plate and you're like, no, I'm 331 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 2: just gonna wait for my pitch and then just crank 332 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 2: it over the left field wall. Like there's just there's 333 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 2: something effortless about Jackson Smith and Jigba and you're gonna 334 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: be shocked to learn totally on display at Ohio State. 335 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was incredible at Ohio State. 336 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 2: It plays sparingly as a freshman, but makes like an 337 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 2: incredible toe tap, like an all time modern toe tap 338 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: against Nebraska. If you remember, remember that the game was 339 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 2: with it was I want to say it was twenty 340 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 2: twenty and it was or maybe twenty twenty one when 341 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 2: it was Joel Clatt and Gus Johnson and they watched 342 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 2: him catch a ball out of the back of the 343 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 2: end zone. They're like, well, that's a good catch, but 344 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: you know that's incomplete, and then they go back and 345 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 2: watch it in slow motion They're like, holy hell, what 346 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 2: so that was like a cool welcome to college football 347 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one Ohio State tie. That's the famed Chris 348 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 2: olave Gara, Wilson, Jackson Smith and Jigba and not only 349 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 2: jacksonth and jib but and Marvin Harrison Junior and not 350 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 2: even just like a Mecca Buka's on that team. Gee 351 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 2: Scott's on that team. Trey Henderson's on that team. 352 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: CJ. 353 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: Stroud is the quarterback. And that goes to show you, Ty, 354 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 2: that's how good Aiden Hutchinson was in that Michigan game. 355 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 2: He could single handedly swallow up an offense to the 356 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: point where they could not get it to those dudes. 357 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: And it was also Kerry Coombs for Ohio State. Whatever 358 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 2: he goes for over two hundred against Nebraska in twenty 359 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 2: twenty two. I hope I'm getting all my years right 360 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 2: here and finishes out that I'm gonna you can correct me, 361 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 2: please fact check me on the years here his apex 362 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 2: because he doesn't really play his final season in college 363 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: because he has. 364 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: A nagging hamstring injury. 365 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: But the year before that, if you remember Chris o'lave 366 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 2: and Garrett Wilson opt out of the Rose Bowl, Kirk 367 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 2: Herbstreet is damn near tears on no sleep, right like 368 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 2: what is happening? And Jackson Smith and Jigba effortlessly lights up. 369 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: Michael Bernard, who is not a cornerback for Utah. He's 370 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 2: the running back put in at cornerback because they're thinn 371 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 2: in the secondary, effortlessly goes for three hundred and forty 372 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: plus yards in a Rose Bowl shootout win for Ohio State. 373 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: That's an absurd number. Could have been more, could have 374 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 2: had more touchdowns. I think he fumbled it inside the 375 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 2: five yard line on a long catch, so could have 376 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: had more touchdowns. Is playing college football as an NFL 377 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: player as a technical like sophomore in college and those 378 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 2: guys readily admit Olave and Garrett Wilson, like, oh, yeah, 379 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 2: he was the best one. 380 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 381 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 2: It was the twenty Rose, the twenty twenty two Rose Bulls, 382 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 2: so it was following the twenty twenty one season. 383 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: That's right, yep. It was three hundred and forty seven 384 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: yards on fifteen catches and three touchdowns Ohio State one 385 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: forty eight to forty five. Another shootout in the Rose. 386 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: Incredible game. Yeah. 387 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: So that's Jackson Smith in Jigba and is just effortlessly 388 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 2: and it's just it's funny to see like an Ohio 389 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: State receiver lighting up teams and then opposite him is 390 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 2: a Weber State receiver in Rashid's Shaheed, who is also 391 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 2: like fascinating. Could have run track at usc like unbelievable speed, 392 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 2: but wanted to play football, and Weaber State is where 393 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: he got his opportunity. And I think he's been very 394 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 2: good for the Seahawks. I don't watch a lot of 395 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 2: Seahawks games, but like an absurd amount of speed, and 396 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 2: opposite him Eastern Washington legend Cooper Cup. Cooper Cup, who 397 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: is from Yakima, Washington, could not get a callback Tye 398 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 2: could not get a sniff from the University of Washington. 399 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: Mike Leech offers him a preferred walk on spot, like 400 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 2: right after he gets hired, but he had already committed 401 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 2: to Eastern Washington. Couldn't get a sniff from Boise State. 402 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: And Chris Peterson, who like seems like that would be 403 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 2: a perfect fit giving he's from Yakima. And Cooper Cup, 404 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 2: I think his I mean, he wins every like conceivable 405 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 2: award and he's a receiving legend on the FCS level. 406 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 2: Sure lights up Oregon for two hundred and forty plus 407 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 2: yards in Audson opposite Vernon Adams, his one time quarterback 408 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 2: at Eastern Washington and oh my god, half of that game. 409 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 2: Kevin Callabro who was former voice of the Sonics and 410 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: Blazers is calling him connor Cup because and I don't 411 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: even blame him. You're just like I, who is this 412 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 2: FCS receiver lighting up? It was a good Oregon team. 413 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 2: It was an awful defense, but it was a good 414 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: Oregon team that season. And Connor Cup call him connor Cup. 415 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 2: Half the game. Our friend Yogi Roth also on the call. 416 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 2: He's a fully unstoppable force in that game, Cooper Cup, 417 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 2: And to nobody's surprise, he was incredible for the Rams 418 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 2: and is now very good for the Seahawks. And it's 419 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: cool that he's playing in his home state. But yeah, 420 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 2: he was. He was a tiny high school kid. He 421 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 2: was overlooked because of size. He peaked late, but just 422 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,479 Speaker 2: an absurd, absurd college football talent who would have thrived 423 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 2: no matter where he played. 424 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my gosh. 425 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, another big college name. By the way, just in 426 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 2: terms of affecting the national scene, Kenneth Walker is I 427 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 2: think the starting running. 428 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: Back for the Walk and the third man. I I 429 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: got a tip that I should bet the over on 430 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker rushing yards. I think it won. It might 431 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: have been the NFC Championship, it might have been the 432 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: game before that, and I was sweating it out for 433 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: a little bit, but it eventually came through. He always 434 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: I remember back to what he did at Michigan State. 435 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: I don't remember him being this fast at Michigan State, 436 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: although I'm sure he's not any slower now than he 437 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: was fast enough, tie faster than anybody chasing you. Yeah, 438 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: what strikes me. And I mean we knew, we knew 439 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: in college that he was going to end up being 440 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: a good pro because he was very much the catalyst 441 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: for that Michigan State team and they had a really 442 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: good year. But what really strikes me in watching him 443 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: so far throughout the playoffs this year a very much 444 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: a downhill runner. B dude's got moves. Yeah he's I mean, 445 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: he's not Saquon, but he's got moves. He's a downhill runner. 446 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: And I think the ability for him to be used 447 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: out of the backfield in the passing game is going 448 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: to be something that has a major influence on this game. 449 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: Because New England plays a run pretty well, they really do. 450 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: But Kenneth Walker has shown I think it's like nine 451 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: point one yards per reception so far this year twenty 452 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,959 Speaker 1: some odd catches out of the backfield. It wouldn't surprise 453 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: me at all, at least based on the numbers I 454 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: saw if they end up using him a little bit 455 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: more out of the backfield in this game against New 456 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: England because they are so good upfront. 457 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 2: Can I tell you why he has to have good 458 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: moves because he began his career at Wake Forest where 459 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 2: he had to start his runs from a stroll running 460 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 2: the slow mesh the Dave flosson slow mesh, and so 461 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 2: he was great at Wake Forest. He got like a 462 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 2: late offer to play at wake Forest. I think he 463 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 2: was committed to Kent State. Tiny dude, and so he's 464 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 2: a MAC level recruit until Wake came in and transfers 465 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: to Michigan State. Basically drags Michigan State to an incredible season. 466 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 2: I mean it's a Peyton Thorn team. At quarterback, he's 467 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: not incredible. I mean they're pretty good at receiver. Obviously 468 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 2: the defense came to play. But offensively, what he was 469 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: able to do just lighting teams up incredible and they 470 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 2: get they do get murdered by that Ohio State team. Yes, 471 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 2: at the end of the year fifty six to seven. 472 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 2: Then they're basically just practicing against air against that year's 473 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 2: Michigan State team. But he was incredible against Michigan that 474 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 2: season in a win over Michigan in just like one 475 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 2: of the most comically terrible quarterback game between Peyton Thorn 476 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 2: and Cade McNamara and fumbles and J. J. McCarthy's in 477 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 2: there for a minute fumbling. They win that game. He's 478 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 2: incredible in that game, ops out and they still beat 479 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 2: Pitt and run for like nothing without Kenneth Walker and 480 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: still beat Pitt. And that's you know, Kenny Pickett, Jordan 481 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 2: Addison pit team, and Jordan Adison leaves the following spring 482 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,239 Speaker 2: to USC. But I don't know how much money of 483 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 2: that reported ninety five million dollar contract, Mel Tucker was 484 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 2: able to take home. Most of that is because of 485 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker and what he was able to do that 486 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 2: season for the Spartans. An incredible talent in college and 487 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 2: just I watched back some of the Wake Forest clips 488 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 2: and just like, oh my god, how could you do 489 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 2: this to him? 490 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: But he was awesome. He was just plain old awesome. 491 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: I remembered him in college. He was incredible. He was 492 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: such a such a talent and such a revelation for 493 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: Michigan State coming up from Wake Forest it's. 494 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 2: Pretty Yes, Seattle is starting not one, but two North 495 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 2: Dakota State Bison on the inside of their offensive line, 496 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: Jalen Sundell and Greysabel. Sundell was undrafted, Zabel was a 497 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 2: high pick for the Seahawks at left guard. 498 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: And is here a rookie? Isabel? Gray'sabel, I believe is 499 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: a rookie. Yes, he's here. 500 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 2: He's twenty three years old, he's got a good mustache, 501 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 2: he's six six, everything you want, ty, And yeah, there 502 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 2: were a Jalen Sundell's from his high school. The name 503 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 2: of his high school mascot in Maryville, Missouri was the 504 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 2: spoof Hounds. Don't know what that is, poof hounds. Okay, 505 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 2: the spoof Hounds of Maryville. 506 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: Moe so. 507 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: And he got offers, And we've seen a couple of 508 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 2: North Dakota State dudes get offers to play higher level football, 509 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 2: but these guys stuck around North Dakota State. Sundell won 510 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 2: three national championships. Gray is able only won two. Jalen 511 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 2: Sundell's little sister is a professional basketball player as well. 512 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 2: Elsewhere on the Seahawks. A. J. Barner wasn't a huge 513 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,719 Speaker 2: name in college. He was Michigan's second quartern or second 514 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: tight end, AJ Barner after transferring in from Indiana, but 515 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 2: with just wreck dudes as a blocking tight end. So 516 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh was deeply in love with him. 517 00:27:58,760 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: I don't know. 518 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 2: On defense, there's a lot of names we're gonna remember. 519 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 2: DeMarcus Lawrence was awesome for Boise State. Didn't have the 520 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 2: grades to get in to an FBS school out of 521 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 2: high school and so went the Juco route and then 522 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 2: was just an absolute murdering machine for Boise Byron Murphy 523 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 2: was a Baylor commit for a while and then absolutely 524 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 2: dominated at Texas. Scored a touchdown both rushing and receiving 525 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 2: as a defensive tackle. So I appreciate that Leonard Williams 526 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: was too big to play Pop Warner football to the surprise, 527 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: you know, I don't. I don't have the opportunity to 528 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 2: tell people stories like that, Like, yeah, I would have 529 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 2: played Pop Warner, but I was too large. The limit 530 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 2: was one hundred and eighty pounds and he weighed in 531 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: at a clean two bills. So Leonard Williams was How 532 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 2: old is he? How old is this younger than you think? 533 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: You know? 534 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: Ten years old, eleven years old two hundred pounds, yeah clean, 535 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 2: two bills, Yeah it was. He's from the West Coast originally, 536 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 2: but played high school football in Florida at Oorjeran fell 537 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 2: absolutely head over heels for him, and he was like, yeah, 538 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 2: I'm a defensive end. I'm not a defensive tackle. And 539 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 2: then as a freshman, I mean he played different spots 540 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 2: at the defensive line. They're just like, you can play 541 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 2: whatever you want, and he just went in and dominated 542 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 2: immediately at USC was awesome and has been a very 543 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 2: good NFL player. Uchennan Wosu also USC. He's always funny 544 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 2: when somebody is in like a star edge in college 545 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,959 Speaker 2: and they come in as a safety. He ran hot 546 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 2: like all of us at times. 547 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: Tie sure. 548 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 2: He was sent home from Holiday Bowl practices for getting 549 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 2: in a fight. Didn't enroll that spring at USC. Had 550 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 2: a change of heart, sort of credits Clay Helton for 551 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 2: getting his head on straight. And I think he played 552 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 2: high school college. He was drafted by the Chargers, so 553 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 2: he was all LA all the time. 554 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: Right. 555 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 2: He's now with the Seahawks. But a great story and 556 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: just a wrecking ball in college. Again in a downtime 557 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 2: for USC. He was absolutely a bright spot. Drake Thomas, 558 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 2: the weak sidelinebacker for the Seahawks, was just a tackling 559 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 2: machine with a great head of hair for NC State, 560 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 2: had big time offers. 561 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: The head of hair, yeah yeah, and. 562 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: Was just he was like he's from North Carolina, went 563 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 2: to n C State and was like just an all 564 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 2: time tackling machine for NC State. Devin Witherspoon, I think 565 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 2: probably weighed less than you did in high school. Devin 566 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 2: Witherspoon only played high school football because he promised his 567 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 2: mom he would give it a shot. Weighed nothing, wasn't 568 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 2: academically eligible until he enrolled at junior college, got his 569 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 2: SAT scores. Lovey Smith was his only big offer and 570 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 2: went to Illinois. Played basically immediately and by the time 571 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 2: he played all four years, gained like twenty five pounds. 572 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 2: Talked about he was like, if I skipped a meal, 573 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 2: I would lose three pounds. So he was just constantly 574 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 2: eating at Illinois, locking dudes down and eating food. That's 575 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 2: a pretty good life and was selected in the top ten. 576 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: Number five overall pick in twenty twenty three, was the 577 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: number five overall pick. It's just a great by the way, 578 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: that is a crazy story to get to be a 579 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: top five pick. Yes, that is an absolutely mind blowing thing. Yeah, 580 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: I think he go ahead. 581 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 2: I was gonna say he came into college like freshman year, 582 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 2: he was like one hundred and forty eight pounds and 583 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: people are like, what are you. 584 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: Here to do? 585 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 2: Exactly as he was putting his uniform on. But yes, 586 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 2: to go from he was, I'm clearly a monster athlete. 587 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 2: He was a very good basketball player in high school, 588 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: but yeah, didn't have offers, both because of academics and 589 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 2: like didn't play until his junior year of high school. 590 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 2: Julian Love, I'm sure you can speak to Yeah, he's 591 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 2: from the Chicagoland area. Was just terrific at Notre Dame. 592 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 2: Was one of the more dependable players in the nation 593 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 2: at Notre Dame in that secondary I think he was 594 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 2: drafted by the Giants. 595 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: Yep. 596 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 2: But I'm not going to say he was boring. But 597 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 2: he he was just like excellent, got a bunch of 598 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: big ten offers, and was an absolute rock for Notre Dame. 599 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: Yep, that's basically it. 600 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Kobe Bryant had basically no big offers and was 601 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 2: named after Kobe Bryant. Was great for Cincinnati, was I 602 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 2: believe a corner in college plays safety for the Seahawks, 603 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 2: but Sauce Gardner gets more of the attention. 604 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,959 Speaker 1: But Kobe Bryant was really good. I mean, that's it 605 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: was Sauce Gardner. Was Kobe Bryant on that team that 606 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: went to the playoffs. 607 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 2: When you are Cincinnati and not playing at a major conference, 608 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 2: but have NFL corners clear NFL corners, that's different. 609 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: That's unique. 610 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 2: That's you know, Luke Fickle and Marcus Freeman and the 611 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 2: defensive staff for Cincinnati, but has come through in a 612 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 2: big way for the Seahawks. Tariq or Riek Wollen Apparently 613 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 2: Seahawks fans have a very mixed relationship with him. He's 614 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 2: gotten three taunting calls this season, including one against the 615 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 2: Rams that he taunted after getting off the field on 616 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 2: a third down and then the Rams got a first 617 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 2: down and immediately threw a touchdown over his head. Six' 618 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 2: five corner at utsa and exhibited one of the absolute 619 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 2: best qualities you can have for anybody in the, secondary 620 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 2: and that is both an ability to diagnose and execute 621 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: like a missile on a screenplay like if. 622 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: YOU'RE i love those. Guys those are the best guys 623 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: to have on your. Defense and he's this, tall lean. 624 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: Dude he's six.' five you can just sort of stick 625 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: his hand in and break up. A pass if you 626 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: have somebody who is that sort of diagnostic wizard but 627 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: can also take a perfect angle and blow, it up 628 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: you're talking about a, top three aesthetically pleasing. FOOTBALL play i, 629 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: would argue RIGHT the dB from out of nowhere blowing 630 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: up a Play At. Kyle hilton there's just you either 631 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: have it or. 632 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 2: You don't and this dude in college and he's, you 633 00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 2: know tall lean dude has. That, Ability finally Emon Worry 634 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 2: south Carolina safety apparently he's crazy versatile For, the seahawks 635 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 2: allows them to play a bunch of different ways and 636 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 2: can make a bunch of. Different plays another one of. 637 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 2: Those guys he's Local To. South Carolina south carolina was his. 638 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 2: Only offer had a bunch of. Great quotes he is a. 639 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 2: Great talker he, was like We're legit hunters is one 640 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 2: of the quotes that he had in college about the 641 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 2: H The south. Carolina secondary so he. Was TERRIFIC and i, 642 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 2: don't know there's just a bunch of likable stories and 643 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 2: likable dudes On the. Seattle team and the ONLY thing 644 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 2: i really haven't Liked was mike McDonald coming out, and, 645 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 2: SAYING yeah i spent about thirty minutes a week with, 646 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 2: My son, LIKE what i think it sounds like one, 647 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 2: years OLD but i saw that. Floating around he, was, 648 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 2: like yeah, you Know like thursday evenings or. My, time like, 649 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 2: oh man what. A life, but yeah that's that's This year's. 650 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 2: SEATTLE team a bunch of, likable dudes likable stories, and 651 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 2: hunch bunch of. Likable names, and like There's Bad jake 652 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 2: bobo's on. 653 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,919 Speaker 1: This. Team, yeah yeah one Thing. 654 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 2: ABOUT jacobobos i am reading For. The Seahawks jake bo 655 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 2: not the Son Of. Mike bobo but also his dad's 656 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 2: Name Is. Mike bobo so There's That duke ucla and 657 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 2: so he is the Son Of. Mike bobo just he 658 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 2: is the son of A Day. Mike, bobo yes so, 659 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 2: other players, You Know drew locke is on, This Team 660 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 2: jalen millrose on, this team, but like, uh yeah those 661 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 2: are those Are the seahawks's college. 662 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: Football players, to me do you want to talk To 663 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: Some New? ENGLAND patriots i got some kitties here On 664 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: The new. ENGLAND side i THINK the. 665 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 2: I can only weigh In On christian gonzalez here From 666 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 2: an oregon perspective've Going to i'm gonna let you weigh 667 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 2: In On, christian ZALEZ but i can Start With. 668 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: Mike. RABEL please i went BACK and i was poking 669 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: and Prodding at vrabel's college Career At. OHIO state a 670 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 1: incredible Talent At. Ohio state he's part Of The Ohio 671 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: State athletics Hall, of fame was inducted back in. Twenty 672 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: twelve if you go back and look up old photos 673 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 1: of his playing days in the, mid nineties The Old, 674 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: silver bowl its Defense For. OHIO state i sent you 675 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 1: a picture of the shoulder pads that these guys were 676 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,399 Speaker 1: wearing back in the. Mid nineties he. Is little if 677 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: you took, a shadow if you took a picture of 678 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: a Shadow Of, mike rabel it would literally look like 679 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: an industrial. Grade, freezer yeah it's a. Perfect square part 680 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 1: of WHY the nfl outlawed those style shoulder pads was 681 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: because they were just they almost offered too. Much paddy 682 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: they all Looked like bebop And. ROCK steady, i mean. 683 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: Really ridiculous he is literally the shape of an industrial. Grade, 684 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: freezer Yeah But mike rabel was a Very Accomplished Ohio. 685 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: State buckeye set the record for most tackles for loss 686 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: in the season and over a career set the record 687 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: for most sacks in. A Career At. Ohio state he 688 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: was a Two Time Big Ten defensive lineman Of, the 689 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: year Three Time All big. Ten selection was drafted in 690 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: the third round by The steel he played for four 691 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: seasons With the steelers before signing on With the pats 692 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: in two thousand. And one went on to Win Three. Super, 693 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: bowls now obviously he is back coaching For. The patriots 694 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,919 Speaker 1: he would be the first coach to Win A super 695 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: bowl as a player and as a coach for the, 696 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: same team which is kind of a Crazy. Stat, yeah 697 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: also note You Mentioned luke. Fickle earlier really good Friends With. 698 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 1: Luke fickle used to Live With luke fickle when they 699 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,959 Speaker 1: were teammates Back At. Ohio state was Hosted By luke 700 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: fickele on his official Visit To ohio state back in nineteen, 701 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: ninety two and they apparently had a Thing For. RICK 702 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: flair i found him telling. This story this is back 703 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,959 Speaker 1: when he was a coach For. The, titans yeah they 704 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 1: were apparently coming back from the bars late, one night Him, 705 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: and fickle and They Saw, rick flair who they Thought Was, 706 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: ric flair across. The street HE had i guess a 707 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: gal on either arm and was walking wearing a silk 708 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: Shirt that rabel described unbuttoned down to, mid Chest and 709 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: fickle just wanted to get in. The cab rabel was 710 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: not content to leave well enough alone needed to confirm 711 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: that It Was. RIC flair i believe may have yelled 712 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: out something, like whoo you know the sort of, trademark 713 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: Yell and flair answered back and that Was Their. Rick, 714 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: flair sorry They Saw ric flair walking Around. Downtown columbus 715 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: but there's a lot out there about how these two. 716 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: Were competitive wait Was It? 717 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 2: Rick flair It Was. Ric flair, oh okay because you 718 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 2: said who they Thought Was? Rick flair It Was. 719 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: Ric, flair, no, no It was, They yelled i'm not 720 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: going to. Do it the dogs are down, here, Though 721 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: okay but they yelled out the trademark battle Cry For, 722 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 1: rick flair, thank you and he did respond It Was. 723 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 1: Ric flair but a lots out there about. Their friendship 724 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: there was actually a piece recent published just a few 725 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 1: days Ago In The Athletic luke fickle talking about his 726 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: Relationship With mike rabel and how he always knew he 727 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: would go on to be a. Great coach he's a leader. 728 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,879 Speaker 1: Of man all the things that you've heard, by now 729 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 1: but the thing that comes up a lot when you 730 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: Read about rabel is his willingness to tell it the way, 731 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 1: it is and you can imagine how as a football 732 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: coach that goes a. Long way he's not out there to. 733 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 1: Appease people he's not out there to tell people what 734 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,280 Speaker 1: they want. To hear he's. Very direct he tells people 735 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,280 Speaker 1: what they need. To hear and so that maybe above, 736 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: all else Is Why new england is a very, disciplined 737 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 1: Team Why new england has seen an incredible. Turnaround story 738 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: they're fourteen. AND three i believe they lost thirteen or 739 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: fourteen games a. Year ago so this is definitely a 740 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: story that's going to be written deep into history Books 741 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: For New england patriots fans and REALLY the nfl as. 742 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: A whole this turnaround story has been due in no 743 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: small part to the the mentality in the Culture that 744 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: frabel has put into place in very. Short order this 745 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,959 Speaker 1: is only his first year coaching, this team so thus 746 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: far it looks like the coaching hire of Last Offseason. 747 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 1: Newland Patriots Bringing mike rabel back home was a very. 748 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: Big deal. 749 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,280 Speaker 2: Full circle by, The Way rick flair briefly was thinking 750 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,399 Speaker 2: about playing football At the University, of michigan so Him, 751 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:28,320 Speaker 2: in columbus the Connection to Raybel and mike McDonald's Connection 752 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 2: to michigan college football is. 753 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: Never. Over continue Quarterback Is, drake may second year player OUT. 754 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: Of Unc the mays are Royalty At. North carolina his 755 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: dad played quarterback there his. Three brothers his Older brother 756 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: luke played basketball hit a game winning shot with point 757 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: three seconds left back in twenty seventeen To beat kentucky 758 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: In the. ELITE eight i actually remember THAT because I 759 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: think I Had north carolina in one Of My March madness. Survivor, 760 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: pools OKAY so i was screaming AT the tv with. 761 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: That one one of his, Older brothers bo walked onto the. 762 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: Basketball team and he's got, Another, brother cole who pitched 763 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 1: for the Twenty Seventeen, florida gators the baseball team which 764 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,720 Speaker 1: also won a. National championship so suffice to say comes 765 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: from a family. Of athletes clearly he has risen to 766 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 1: a completely different stratosphere relative to, his family but all 767 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,800 Speaker 1: of them are very. Very talented drake himself with a 768 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 1: very talented basketball player and was a recruit as a, 769 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: basketball player but obviously chose to go, with football and 770 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: that has proven to be a rather. Wise choice he 771 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: Committed To, Nick, Saban right i'm glad now you cut, You. Off, pond, no, no, 772 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 1: No listen we've been doing the show long enough that 773 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: you Know where i'm, going next and this Is where i'm. Going, at, sorry, Sorry, 774 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: sorry no. It's cool twenty four to seven had him 775 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: as a five. Star recruit the composites had him at 776 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: about a. Four star he was graded as the ninth 777 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 1: best quarterback in the class of two. Twenty one the 778 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: Comp Was, sam BRADFORD which i don't know if that's 779 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: a fair comp, or not but that was. The Comp 780 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 1: And sam bradford obviously is a very good college player 781 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,359 Speaker 1: and number one overall pick in his. Own, right yeah 782 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 1: can you talk through the other quarterbacks that you can 783 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 1: name from that class of twenty, twenty one because there 784 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: are some names. On here i'll give you a hint 785 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 1: and say That quinn ewers was unanimously the, number one 786 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:30,280 Speaker 1: and he reclassified, and Reclassified But quinn ewers was overwhelmingly 787 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: the number one quarterback in that class twenty. TWENTY one 788 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: i get all my years. MIXED up, I know i 789 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 1: know This is i'm putting you on the. 790 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,479 Speaker 2: Spot here so he reclassified and Committed To, ohio state 791 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 2: right where he was for a year before transferring back Home. 792 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 2: To texas You Have drake may. In There drake may. 793 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: Was Nine drake may was nine twenty. TWENTY one i 794 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: can give you some Names Below, drake may so you'd 795 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,839 Speaker 1: have if that makes. IT easier jj McCarthy. IN there, 796 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 1: jj McCarthy he was. Number, five okay so YOU have 797 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: jj McCarthy. In there You have i'm trying, to Think 798 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: is kyle McCord? In there mel McCord Was numbers. 799 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 2: Look you Can see I'm not i'm. Not good we're 800 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 2: men of. 801 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: HONOR here i. Get, This. 802 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 2: Okay so You have, Kyle McCord, Drake may. Quinn yours 803 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,240 Speaker 2: this is a big. Name class. 804 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 1: There's one very big one that. YOU'RE missing i mean 805 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 1: there are, a couple but there's one in particular that's a. 806 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 1: Huge NAME dare i say local? To, YOU well jj McCarthy's. Local, 807 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,240 Speaker 1: Here well i'm another one local to you In The chicago. 808 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 1: LAND area i believe your kids have a jersey may 809 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 1: or may not play for the team of the city 810 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 1: in which you. Currently, Reside Oh. Caleb Williams caleb williams 811 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: number is. That, year yeah little guy Has A caleb. 812 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: Williams jersey i'm gonna give you some other, Ones, here 813 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 1: okay please. Go through the number Three Was. Sam heward, 814 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 1: oh yeah he's been. 815 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 2: Well Traveled, so Washington, Usc Utah San, luis Obispoke caw. 816 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: Polly continue number Four was brock Vander griff remember we 817 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: had that run Of being vandergrifters that didn't work Out, In. Kentucky. 818 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: Georgia Yeah ty thompson was. Number seven, Oh sure Oregon 819 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: now tulane tight end THE last. I. Heard yeah, number 820 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,919 Speaker 1: eight here's one speaking of, well traveled, Still Playing. Jake 821 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 1: Garcia jake garcia has Been, Around, Miami. Missouri. Michigan. Yeah 822 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 1: uh drake may, was ninth and then to round out the, 823 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,839 Speaker 1: top fifteen just BECAUSE he's, i mean you look at 824 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 1: these old names and it brings back so. Many memories 825 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 1: Number Ten Jackson, dart sure, Number Eleven, TYLER Buckner, Usc, 826 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: JACKSON Dart, Usc, Jackson Dart, Tyler Buckner Notre dame. Lacrosse, 827 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: contributor YEAH just i don't want to talk About, tout, 828 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: alabama Right So Notre. Dame alabama Back To, Notre Dame Notre. Dame, 829 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 1: lacrosse yeah and then fumbled the snap that costs them 830 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 1: the Game AGAINST texas a and m we won't. Go there. 831 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 1: It's fine number Twelve Was Miller. Moss sure number Thirteen Was. 832 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:15,280 Speaker 1: Jalen milroe Number fourteen Garrett, Nus meyer Number Fifteen. Preston 833 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 1: stone this was. 834 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 2: All contributors basically Other. Than garcia this was an electric 835 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 2: quarterback class. 836 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 1: In hindsight but Back To. Drake, may okay there were 837 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 1: a lot of Highlights Of drake may in his time 838 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 1: As A north. Carolina quarterback the one that comes, to 839 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 1: mind and you may recall this because wasn't all that. 840 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 1: Long agoes back in twenty, twenty three there was a 841 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 1: Game Against pitt they're down in the, red zone he's completely. 842 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 1: Wrapped up he puts the ball in his left hand 843 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 1: because he spots a receiver open in the. End zone 844 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 1: throws what amounts to an end over end wounded duck 845 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 1: to a wide open receiver lefty to score, the touchdown 846 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 1: and it was one of those deals where he did 847 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 1: it and then he looks at his left, hand like 848 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 1: HOW did i just? Do that like a he didn't 849 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: even know that he could, do that but that one comes. 850 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 1: To mind there was also a moment where he got in. 851 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 1: Hot Water drake may is like the most non, controversial 852 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,919 Speaker 1: player but there was a moment in twenty twenty two 853 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 1: where rivalry upcoming About the it was a game AGAINST 854 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 1: N c state and he makes a comment saying that 855 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: people who Go to state can't Get into carolina and 856 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,759 Speaker 1: it was a. Big deal it was a. Big deal 857 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 1: that shows you how non controversy he. Actually is that 858 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: that would get a rise out, of anybody but eventually 859 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 1: apologized it was a. Whole thing and, you know obviously 860 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 1: now he was a third. Overall pick he's playing at 861 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 1: points this season was showing signs of BEING an mvp. 862 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 1: Caliber quarterback may get there at, some point, But Yeah 863 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 1: drake may Ends. 864 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,399 Speaker 2: Up jaden daniels, between Them Between caleb Williams And, drake 865 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 2: may is that what? 866 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 1: IT was? I believe, so, yes, okay yeah and everybody 867 00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 1: Including my giants tried to trade up to, get him, 868 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 1: but they, you know everybody Knew That drake may was 869 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 1: going to be. Something Special new england ends up, with 870 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 1: them and now they're back In The. 871 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 2: Super BOWL what i also remember is both It Was 872 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 2: caleb Williams And, drake may like that was the conversation for, 873 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,879 Speaker 2: a While and Jade and daniels obviously peaked and Winning 874 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,760 Speaker 2: the heisman and everything. LIKE that i remember seeing Guys 875 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,880 Speaker 2: Like nate tice and draft analysts, saying like we're Pretty 876 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,240 Speaker 2: Sure drake may. Is awesome we're Pretty Sure caleb williams. 877 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 2: Is awesome but they're playing behind such garbage offensive lines, 878 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 2: exactly right that it's nearly impossible to get a full 879 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 2: sense of what they could do if they had time 880 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 2: to go. Through progressions, and Obviously Like, caleb williams, you 881 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,799 Speaker 2: know used his legs to buy time and still, does 882 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 2: Obviously And drake may is very athletic. As well but 883 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 2: there was that like idea, of like it'd be really 884 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 2: nice if they could step into a pocket and go, 885 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 2: through progressions but their offensive lines are so horrid that. 886 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,839 Speaker 1: They, can't yeah and and actually that will be an 887 00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 1: interesting thing to follow in. This, game notably Rookie Tackle 888 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 1: will campbell has not had a good, postseason no AND 889 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 1: his pff grades have been extremely low thus far through 890 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,800 Speaker 1: this playoff run here For. The patriots it'll be interesting 891 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: to see how Or if seattle can take advantage. Of 892 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 1: that and what's weird to try to See Me brank 893 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 1: kelly is such a legendary offensive line NAME in, lsu, 894 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 1: circles RIGHT that lsu offensive. Line development to have that 895 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,880 Speaker 1: many guys off OF that lsu line get drafted but 896 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,719 Speaker 1: never really play that, well together at least not as 897 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 1: a run, blocking unit is definitely going to be something 898 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 1: that we're going to need to look back on On 899 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,839 Speaker 1: The brian kelly Regime In. Baton rouge look a BUNCH 900 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 1: of i think a couple of the dudes hit the 901 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 1: portal and like we're in. High demand that people are 902 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 1: just CONVINCED that lsu was not a place to develop 903 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 1: as an offensive, line now but we can we can, 904 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 1: change them. All right some other interesting Factoids About new 905 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 1: england players back. In, College Please trey henderson wasn't all that, 906 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 1: Long ago Travian and henderson was Playing At. Ohio, State 907 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 1: Awesome travon henderson had a really good. Rookie Year. Traveon 908 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 1: henderson one of the REASONS that i think we. LIKED 909 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,400 Speaker 1: him i remember Talking To nate tice about this before the, 910 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 1: last draft but just sort of did. Everything well was 911 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 1: there really a, stute player was good as a pass, 912 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,080 Speaker 1: Blocker right you could count on him to just do the. 913 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 1: Right thing there were tells that that he was going 914 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,800 Speaker 1: to be this player dating back to. High school obviously 915 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 1: he was a five star coming Out, of virginia but 916 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,760 Speaker 1: was also A straight, a student so he's just a student. 917 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 1: Of Whatever And trey henderson had a really good campaign, 918 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 1: this year, but again signs of it were back in 919 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,399 Speaker 1: his freshman Year At. Ohio state in his, third Game 920 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 1: Broke archie griffin's freshman single game rushing record with two 921 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy seven yards on twenty four carries and. 922 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 1: Three touchdowns over the span of, his career he made, the, 923 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 1: first second And Third All big ten teams in his 924 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 1: Time At. Ohio state we, liked, him obviously they like him. 925 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,359 Speaker 1: A Lot trey henders had a really good campaign Next To, 926 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 1: ramandre STEVENSON who i could talk a little, bit About 927 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 1: but i've got a bunch Here that i'm going to get, into. 928 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 2: First by, the way two absolute backbreaking touchdowns to finish 929 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 2: out his Career For. Ohio state if, you remember right 930 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,760 Speaker 2: before the Half against texas on the Screenplay where texas, 931 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 2: was like let's just get to the half and figure 932 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 2: things out in the, second half And Great chip Kelly 933 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 2: Called trey henderson's scream goes for like seventy yards for. 934 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,840 Speaker 2: A touchdown also had A killer, i think just a 935 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 2: run around the Edge against oregon that just was basically 936 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 2: the nail in the coffin when they Throttled the ducks 937 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 2: In The. Rose Bowl, Stefan diggs, Oh, man yeah. 938 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 1: There's been a lot going On With. Stefan diggs i'm 939 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:43,400 Speaker 1: not going to ACT like i know about all. Of 940 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 1: it i'm going to Talk About steffan diggs as a 941 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:51,319 Speaker 1: college player AND recent nfl. Track record he had an 942 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 1: act of twenty. Twenty, five yes that's he had a 943 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,360 Speaker 1: very art. Twenty, five yeah artful way to, PUT it. I, 944 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,400 Speaker 1: think yeah there are a couple things that jumped to 945 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,360 Speaker 1: MIND when i Think Of. Stefan Diggs stefan diggs was 946 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,360 Speaker 1: the prize Recruit By randy etzel back In his. Maryland 947 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 1: days if, you recall it was not Because Of. RANDY 948 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 1: etzel i think that is fairly. Well documented at. This 949 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 1: Point steffon diggs just wanted to stay close. To home 950 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,799 Speaker 1: that was the most important thing, to him which is How, 951 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 1: From Maryland how maryland kind of gets the one big recruit. 952 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,319 Speaker 1: Every year you just want to stay close. To. HOME 953 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:32,839 Speaker 1: yeah i remember in his very first season taking a 954 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 1: fake knee in the end Zone. Against virginia this is 955 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 1: back in. Twenty twelve took a fake knee in the 956 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:44,960 Speaker 1: end zone then ran for one hundred yard kickoff return for. 957 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 1: A touchdown i. Remember that the other THING that i 958 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 1: Remember For, stefan diggs who's very productive in three years As, 959 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 1: a terrapin left after, three years ended up being a. 960 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 1: Draft pick, you know was Played for buffalo for, a 961 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:57,880 Speaker 1: while played For the texans for, a while now was 962 00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:02,239 Speaker 1: Playing With. New england there was also an issue in, 963 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,720 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen is last year on Campus With. Penn state 964 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 1: do you, REMEMBER this i don't do? You, really okay 965 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,120 Speaker 1: there was a controversy and he got suspended and it 966 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,400 Speaker 1: was like all the way Back To, randy etzel and 967 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:21,359 Speaker 1: there were issues across the board because there was a 968 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 1: moment at midfield in Advance The penn. State, game oh 969 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 1: this is. All. Vague, continue yeah he was One of. 970 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:32,120 Speaker 1: Maryland's captains he and the other captains went out there 971 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,759 Speaker 1: and they refused to shake Hands With penn state during the. Coin, 972 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,919 Speaker 1: Toss okay and this is after there was a little 973 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,840 Speaker 1: bit of a pregame SCUFFLE where I Think stefan diggs 974 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 1: was accused of making contact with. An, Official okay so 975 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 1: there was a whole bunch of stuff, going on and 976 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,319 Speaker 1: that kind of gave him a little bit of a bad, 977 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 1: bloy Reputation which i'm not going to say has been. 978 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 1: Totally Refuted But stefan diggs is now playing. This Game 979 00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,239 Speaker 1: steffon diggs had has been not quite what he used 980 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,479 Speaker 1: to be right when he first came into, the league 981 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 1: but has been a very productive member Of The New. 982 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 1: England patriots he also never really had a great quarterback 983 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:15,320 Speaker 1: in his Time. At, maryland No What sean petty comes? To, mind, 984 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,439 Speaker 1: yeah hey he there was another. GOOD receiver i just looked. 985 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 1: IT up i had to Remind Myself Deon. Long long 986 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 1: but HE. HAD. C j brown as his quarterback for 987 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 1: two YEARS and i believe for at least part of 988 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:33,719 Speaker 1: his freshman year. Was it what was? His name the 989 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 1: quote The. It sean i'm, BLANKING here i should. Remember 990 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 1: This sean petty a converted linebacker. 991 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 2: Playing, quarterback yeah that was a. Famous Thing the maryland 992 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 2: was now so. Many, quarterbacks yeah. 993 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 1: There Was, perry hillis THERE. WAS. C, j brown and 994 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:57,760 Speaker 1: there was a cup of coffee Here With. Sean petty 995 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 1: but obviously he was able to and, send that become 996 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,800 Speaker 1: a draft pick and now do fairly well for himself 997 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,759 Speaker 1: AS an. Nfl talent has had a bunch, of injuries 998 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,520 Speaker 1: right from a. Broken leg you had a lacerated kidney 999 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,239 Speaker 1: at one point back in twenty fourteen, as well but 1000 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 1: has rebounded pretty well. From that and it's not going 1001 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:16,759 Speaker 1: to be playing For The. 1002 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 2: Super BOWL so i have A Personal stefan. Diggs story 1003 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 2: my personal Story Was steffan DIGGS as i used to 1004 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 2: host a game show At The Super bowl radio ROW 1005 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 2: and i would answer. The question answer the question was 1006 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,799 Speaker 2: the name of the mobile GAME show, i hosted and 1007 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 2: we would have a BUNCH of nfl players on who 1008 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:32,960 Speaker 2: are not playing In The, super bowl who were there 1009 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,960 Speaker 2: Promoting Like, Gator raider nike or what? Have You And 1010 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,359 Speaker 2: stefan diggs was one, of them and there was a 1011 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 2: ton Of Like pro bowl caliber players and big names 1012 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,640 Speaker 2: and stuff. LIKE that i, remember SPECIFICALLY and i PROBABLY 1013 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,879 Speaker 2: interviewed i, don't know it was twenty thirty dudes or something, 1014 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 2: like that and IT Was jj Watt And, cam newton. 1015 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:54,480 Speaker 2: BIG names i Remember Interviewing stefan diggs and he obviously 1016 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,799 Speaker 2: this is like, twenty, fourteen. Fifteen sixteen some were not, 1017 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,760 Speaker 2: for it probably like fifteen. OR sixteen i just remember 1018 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,840 Speaker 2: talking to him before and after we did, the SHOW 1019 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 2: and i, remember thinking this dude is one of the, 1020 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 2: most charismatic Charming athletes i've ever, Been around and apparently 1021 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 2: that's held true with his very busy twenty. Twenty FIVE 1022 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,400 Speaker 2: but i just remember like it was just, super, nice charismatic, 1023 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,160 Speaker 2: and like, oh man, This dude like you spend time, 1024 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:26,560 Speaker 2: around him, you, like oh this guy's going to BE 1025 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,919 Speaker 2: on tv when he's done playing or will have some 1026 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 2: kind of something that spotlights. His personality, but, like yeah very. Entertaining. 1027 00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:40,640 Speaker 1: Dude yeah there was also wasn't there like a legend 1028 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:45,720 Speaker 1: about him Having A valentine's day date with two women 1029 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,360 Speaker 1: at the. SAME time i, believe again this, All tracks 1030 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:55,080 Speaker 1: it's all. COMPLETELY tracks I don't i'm not fully briefed on, 1031 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 1: the STORY but i remember there was a report that 1032 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,319 Speaker 1: he apparently tried to pull off. That maneuver there is. 1033 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 2: An allegation involving, hotel rooms two. DIFFERENT rooms i have 1034 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 2: no idea if. IT'S true i have. 1035 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:13,600 Speaker 1: No confirmation we, can't know we, Don't KNOW but I just. 1036 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,319 Speaker 2: I'm positive stefan has talked, about it whether or not 1037 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 2: it's true, or not because he's a very. 1038 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 1: Open. Book continue speaking, of receivers let's Talk about. Booty Please, 1039 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:30,239 Speaker 1: Kashawan Boody kayshan Boudy From lsu kaishan body is a 1040 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,360 Speaker 1: true freshman in the Finale Against old miss played in. 1041 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,880 Speaker 1: A monsoon it was a. MONSOON game i remember. It 1042 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,759 Speaker 1: well caught fourteen passes for three hundred and eight yards and. 1043 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:45,160 Speaker 1: Three touchdowns. Pretty good had his fair share of. Circus, 1044 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:49,759 Speaker 1: catches obviously it was a high. Draft Pick, kayshan boody, 1045 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,279 Speaker 1: Some Others, hunter Henry Remember. Hunter henry you remember this 1046 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:58,440 Speaker 1: Play From hunter Henry. At arkansas oh, my god this 1047 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,400 Speaker 1: might have been one of the most chaotic PLACE that 1048 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,440 Speaker 1: i remember in our time of doing. College football coverage 1049 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,680 Speaker 1: certainly IN, the sec the history OF, the sec the 1050 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:12,960 Speaker 1: Year Of our lord twenty fifteen Playing for arkansas games, 1051 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,480 Speaker 1: in overtime fourth and, twenty five they just got to 1052 00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:20,440 Speaker 1: make something Happen Against. Old miss he catches a pass 1053 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:24,320 Speaker 1: well short of, the markers not. Even close he's, being 1054 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:29,400 Speaker 1: tackled and he just blindly flings the ball backwards over 1055 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:35,800 Speaker 1: his head Aka the. Henry heave the ball bounces perfectly 1056 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 1: to Running Back. Alex Collins, rip yeah runs for the, 1057 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 1: first down keeps the. Drive alive eventually They lead arkansas 1058 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:51,000 Speaker 1: to victory Because the. Henry heave go back and watch. 1059 00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:52,200 Speaker 1: THE clip i don't know if you went back and 1060 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,320 Speaker 1: watched THE clips, i did fourth and, twenty, FIVE right, 1061 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:58,040 Speaker 1: i mean talk about a desperation heave that has a 1062 00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,200 Speaker 1: perfect Bounce To, alex, collins who for his, Own Right 1063 00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 1: alice collins was. THE force i believe he was Drafted, 1064 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 1: by seattle? WASN'T he? I? Believe, So, yeah uh that 1065 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,600 Speaker 1: was a legendary Play For, hunter henry who's been a 1066 00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:12,520 Speaker 1: very productive tight end IN. 1067 00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 2: The nfl it's sort of AND when i Say like 1068 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:20,560 Speaker 2: arkansas is the most college, football team it's those moments 1069 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:21,840 Speaker 2: and that was a crazy, shootout. 1070 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:22,720 Speaker 1: Game right it was a high. 1071 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 2: Scoring, game yeah like it was a, desperation moment fifty 1072 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:26,439 Speaker 2: two forty five. 1073 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 1: OR something i want, to say it was something. Like that. 1074 00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,720 Speaker 1: It was it was a. Crazy result It Was Arkansas. 1075 00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 1: Ole miss yeah. It was it Was a. Bonker's play 1076 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,440 Speaker 1: it's an all time iconic college. Football. 1077 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,080 Speaker 2: PLAY yeah i couldn't Have Named hunter henry as being. 1078 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:40,680 Speaker 2: THE guy i knew It Was. Arkansas Miss. 1079 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 1: Christian, gonzales YEAH so i want you to give me 1080 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,280 Speaker 1: the Lowdown On. CHRISTIAN gonzales I have i have carved 1081 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,640 Speaker 1: out a little space for you. To, fill, oh OKAY 1082 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:54,080 Speaker 1: but i will. Say This, christian gonzalez, His, father hector 1083 00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:58,160 Speaker 1: played Basketball. In colombia his, Two sisters Melissa, and samantha 1084 00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:02,440 Speaker 1: Were all american hurdlers who also competed Internationally. For Columbia 1085 00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:07,160 Speaker 1: christian zalez obviously comes from a very. Athletic, Family Yes 1086 00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,720 Speaker 1: christian goanzalez Is. From texas was a four star recruit 1087 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,120 Speaker 1: COMMITTED to I believe Meltucker, In. Colorado colorado played as 1088 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 1: a Freshman, at COLORADO but i don't think he Played. For, 1089 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,440 Speaker 1: MELTUCKER no i think he only Played For carl Durell 1090 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 1: at colorado and was very good played as a freshman 1091 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:29,320 Speaker 1: and when it was very Clear that colorado was not 1092 00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 1: going to be going very far in college football after 1093 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:38,000 Speaker 1: the weirdly successful twenty, twenty campaign for, A while colorado 1094 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 1: was kind. Of feisty he transfers after the twenty twenty, 1095 00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:46,480 Speaker 1: one season his second Year. At colorado colorado fans are 1096 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,120 Speaker 1: apoplectic because they know he is like one of the 1097 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,960 Speaker 1: shining bright spots of a not great Situation. In BOULDER 1098 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,560 Speaker 1: and i want to say there were a couple Of 1099 00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 1: other colorado guys in. THE secondary i want somebody ended 1100 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,360 Speaker 1: UP at i want to Say something blackman At Usc 1101 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,080 Speaker 1: But christian zalez ends Up, at oregon and to this 1102 01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:11,200 Speaker 1: day is, you know if you think about who the 1103 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:15,200 Speaker 1: best defensive players Of The dan lanning, ERA were, i 1104 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 1: mean he's absolutely he's either that guy or is in 1105 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,960 Speaker 1: the conversation to be. That guy he was, crazy productive 1106 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,040 Speaker 1: he was a. Lockdown corner he's a, tall dude sort 1107 01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:27,680 Speaker 1: of soft spoken and played only played one Season. At, 1108 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,200 Speaker 1: oregon UH but i think it was On all. American 1109 01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,400 Speaker 1: lists i'll pack, twelve lists everything, Like that and so 1110 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:36,480 Speaker 1: he would have been on the First bow. Knicks Team 1111 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,680 Speaker 1: bo knicks was there for. Two, years okay So bow 1112 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,120 Speaker 1: knicks was twenty twenty two and twenty. Twenty three he 1113 01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:47,640 Speaker 1: was on that first year's team that he didn't play 1114 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:53,920 Speaker 1: In The holiday Bowl Against, north carolina but. Was Great 1115 01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,600 Speaker 1: if i'm screwing up, MY seasons i apologize. That was 1116 01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:58,160 Speaker 1: if he was on. 1117 01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:02,120 Speaker 2: The twenty twenty, Two team oregon would have ended up 1118 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:04,960 Speaker 2: what was It The? Holiday bowl what? It was so 1119 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,040 Speaker 2: would have been the final Game, of yeah it Was 1120 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:10,440 Speaker 2: The north. Carolina game so There's Your drake. May, connection 1121 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,160 Speaker 2: yeah but didn't play in, that game but was. Otherwise 1122 01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:21,840 Speaker 2: terrific also in. The, Secondary Yeah. Marcus Jones marcus jones 1123 01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:23,520 Speaker 2: is a. Nickel corner HE'S. Five a he's not a, 1124 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:28,760 Speaker 2: big guy but uh. Nickel corner Played. At houston he's 1125 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,000 Speaker 2: best known for being An all pro caliber, punt returner 1126 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:37,160 Speaker 2: which is part OF why i am Interested In marcus 1127 01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:41,520 Speaker 2: jones As A super BOWL sixty mvp at sixty to one. 1128 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:47,960 Speaker 1: Oh special teams touchdown, difference maker just saying, decent odds, 1129 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,800 Speaker 1: decent odds, not bad just to tick Below Sta von 1130 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:53,600 Speaker 1: diggs And Above. 1131 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:57,400 Speaker 2: TREY henderson i can tell you as somebody who does 1132 01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:03,840 Speaker 2: not wager, on Football and ty was terrible wagering about football. 1133 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:10,320 Speaker 1: This season stop it take all this. As, entertainment yeah 1134 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,720 Speaker 1: he had a ninety four yard punt return earlier this 1135 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,160 Speaker 1: year Against the giants that took, my soul like, right away, 1136 01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,120 Speaker 1: right away they were, three nothing then they were up 1137 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 1: ten nothing before he. Could blink while he Was, at 1138 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:27,360 Speaker 1: houston he Won The Paul Horning award nation's most. Versatile 1139 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:32,240 Speaker 1: player he also released an ALBUM which i went back and. 1140 01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,840 Speaker 1: LISTENED to i do not believe he has released, anything 1141 01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:38,480 Speaker 1: since but he goes under the stage Name of Elliott 1142 01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 1: j the album Was. Titled complications there's a little Bit 1143 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,400 Speaker 1: Of kendrick lemar. In it i'm not gonna lie a, little, 1144 01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:50,000 Speaker 1: Bit okay like if You took kendrick and pitch shifted 1145 01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:54,760 Speaker 1: it up just just a, couple cents, You, know okay 1146 01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:59,400 Speaker 1: it wouldn't not Sound like Elliott Or. Kendrick lamar. 1147 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 2: So Can marcus jones use this as a blurb for 1148 01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 2: any sort of? Press clippings Ty hilden brant a little 1149 01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:08,200 Speaker 2: Bit Of kendrick lamar. 1150 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:09,800 Speaker 1: TO him, i mean there is go. And listen i'll 1151 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,320 Speaker 1: send you the link noted hip Hop journalist Ty. 1152 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,920 Speaker 2: Hilden, brant yeah people don't know that about right your 1153 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:17,920 Speaker 2: second my last day job. 1154 01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,200 Speaker 1: Past live Writing. For vibe, yeah, no yeah. THAT'S true 1155 01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,360 Speaker 1: a little Bit of kendrick, in, this okay a, Little 1156 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:28,280 Speaker 1: Bit But marcus jones is, somebody WHO like, i say, 1157 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:32,640 Speaker 1: nickel back really good. Punt returner could potentially have an 1158 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,880 Speaker 1: impact on this GAME because i feel like this game 1159 01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:36,320 Speaker 1: is going to. Be Close and i'll talk about that 1160 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,200 Speaker 1: in a. Little bit the other Thing that i'll add 1161 01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:43,080 Speaker 1: here while we're talking about, special teams the Story Of 1162 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:47,520 Speaker 1: new England's Punter bryce barringer is. Very interesting he was 1163 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,840 Speaker 1: a walk On At, michigan state initially cut from the 1164 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:55,680 Speaker 1: team and spent the twenty nineteen season as the team's photographer. 1165 01:03:55,680 --> 01:04:00,800 Speaker 1: And videographer he is one of Us. Dan okay he 1166 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:04,240 Speaker 1: rejoined the team in twenty twenty and turned into the 1167 01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:08,960 Speaker 1: best putter in, school history holding a career average of 1168 01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 1: forty six yards. Per punt he's also a very. Good 1169 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:14,800 Speaker 1: golfer he's a plus, one handicap which is a very. 1170 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:20,160 Speaker 1: Good golfer now we talk about, special teams we talk about. 1171 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:24,280 Speaker 1: THIS game i did do a deep dive about this. 1172 01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:29,240 Speaker 1: FOOTBALL game i think this is a really interesting mix 1173 01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,520 Speaker 1: of all the different factors that YOU and i like 1174 01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:34,720 Speaker 1: to talk about when we preview a college. FOOTBALL game 1175 01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,360 Speaker 1: i Think the seahawks are the. Better team they got 1176 01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 1: the best player on the field right NOW In Jsn 1177 01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:45,040 Speaker 1: jackson Smith and jigbow and he's. Basically unstoppable their ability 1178 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,800 Speaker 1: to move the ball through, THE air i think is 1179 01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,120 Speaker 1: the difference in. This game AND as i, said earlier 1180 01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,480 Speaker 1: my favorite Bed Is kenneth walker over twenty two and 1181 01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:57,439 Speaker 1: a half. Receiving Yards Because new england plays a really 1182 01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 1: tough brand to, RUN defense i think this one's go 1183 01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:01,640 Speaker 1: to be in the Arm Of, sam darnald who has 1184 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:03,680 Speaker 1: clearly been a revelation since he came over From. The 1185 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,240 Speaker 1: vikings by, The Way sam donald would be the, FIRST player, 1186 01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,120 Speaker 1: i believe or at least the first quarterback to Win 1187 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:13,280 Speaker 1: A super bowl having played for five. Different teams so 1188 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 1: damn not Winning A super bowl with, five teams but 1189 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,560 Speaker 1: The First super bowl winner two have played quarterback for five. 1190 01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:24,000 Speaker 1: Different teams that. Makes sense also from an advanced, Stats 1191 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:28,840 Speaker 1: standpoint seattle is also the more. Efficient team they finished 1192 01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:35,240 Speaker 1: with THE highest dvoa defense adjusted value over average since, 1193 01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:41,520 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen very good. On defense my issue, is that 1194 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,400 Speaker 1: and this is something we talked about in this Most 1195 01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 1: Recent national championship Game between Miami. And indiana miami had, 1196 01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,920 Speaker 1: the flash there was a lot. Of flash indiana was. 1197 01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:58,360 Speaker 1: More disciplined indiana didn't. Beat itself that ended up being 1198 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,600 Speaker 1: one of the, primary features not just to bug and 1199 01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:05,160 Speaker 1: a big part Of why indiana rose to such heights 1200 01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:09,760 Speaker 1: so Quickly. Under Signetty the pats are. Very disciplined they 1201 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:14,720 Speaker 1: do not. Beat themselves it scares me a little Bit 1202 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,360 Speaker 1: That mike rabel has been able to frame this game 1203 01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:21,760 Speaker 1: as something of an underdog story For, the patriots who're 1204 01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:25,280 Speaker 1: not used to being, an underdog but. They ARE and, 1205 01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:29,560 Speaker 1: i think taken in, context here it's a team that doesn't. 1206 01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,040 Speaker 1: Beat itself it's a team that likes to possess. The 1207 01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,480 Speaker 1: football it's very. PHYSICAL team i think they're better on 1208 01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:37,440 Speaker 1: defense than they get. Credit for that to me has 1209 01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:41,640 Speaker 1: the hallmark of a really. Close game seattle brings. THE 1210 01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,840 Speaker 1: flash I think seattle's got. BETTER players I think seattle's the. 1211 01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:48,120 Speaker 1: BETTER team I think, seattle WINS but i think. IT'S 1212 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,920 Speaker 1: close i think it's twenty eight to Twenty. Four seahawks 1213 01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:57,720 Speaker 1: Seahawks Win new. England, covers okay that's that's fine. BY 1214 01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:58,120 Speaker 1: me i think. 1215 01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:02,680 Speaker 2: That's fine i'm just there to eat, and enjoy hopefully a. 1216 01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:06,000 Speaker 1: Good game did you See The jurassic. Park, commercial no 1217 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,760 Speaker 1: The only I've Seen andy samberg Do is. Hellman's. 1218 01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:13,959 Speaker 2: Commercial dan he does Like a, mayo Commercial Parroting. NEIL 1219 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:15,000 Speaker 2: diamond i Think The. 1220 01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:20,280 Speaker 1: Meal. Diamonds Yeah The jurassic, park COMMERCIAL which i think 1221 01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:25,360 Speaker 1: Is A comcast exfinity. Branded, thing okay the Spin On 1222 01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:29,920 Speaker 1: jurassic park that they put on in, this commercial quite 1223 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:33,800 Speaker 1: literally would be better than it is better than each 1224 01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:37,640 Speaker 1: of the Last Couple jurassic. Park, movies okay it is 1225 01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:40,320 Speaker 1: genuinely one of the. Better commercials it's a Commercial. 1226 01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:44,200 Speaker 2: Four, comcast, yes, OKAY yes i. Saw that you send 1227 01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,000 Speaker 2: Me A william. Shatner, one sorry Continue About. Jurassid Park 1228 01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,160 Speaker 2: The jurassic park one is, YOU know i mean not 1229 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,120 Speaker 2: to give away too much of. The Game jurassic park's 1230 01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,320 Speaker 2: been out for a, minute now but, you know like 1231 01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,480 Speaker 2: the park goes to everything goes down and trying to 1232 01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,840 Speaker 2: boot it, back up and that's when everything kind of 1233 01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:02,360 Speaker 2: flies off. The handle but the spin in this commercial 1234 01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:05,360 Speaker 2: is they would have been able to bring the pack 1235 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,040 Speaker 2: the park back up right away if They had exfinity not, 1236 01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:11,520 Speaker 2: a sponsor and so you get to see sort of 1237 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,240 Speaker 2: like the alternate ending if everything hadn't. 1238 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:20,120 Speaker 1: Gone crazy it's, an awesome. Awesome, Commercial okay i'm gonna 1239 01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,280 Speaker 1: look it up as soon as we. Finish recording rate sidebar. 1240 01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:26,840 Speaker 2: Really Good jurassic park is a modern, iconic movie, Of 1241 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:30,640 Speaker 2: course like sometimes these movies that are just sort of 1242 01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:34,040 Speaker 2: action oriented and, you know in sci fi, or whatever 1243 01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:39,280 Speaker 2: are not taking Serious Like jurassic park of the past. 1244 01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:43,240 Speaker 1: Forty years. IT'S incredible I think i think it's a piece. 1245 01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:46,240 Speaker 2: Of cinema it's, so good it's. IT'S remarkable i think. 1246 01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:50,200 Speaker 2: It's incredible, all right why don't we leave? It there 1247 01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,000 Speaker 2: you got any plans you? 1248 01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:53,519 Speaker 1: Do anything For The. 1249 01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,519 Speaker 2: Super bowl we're going over to. Some friends i'm gonna 1250 01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,320 Speaker 2: make a Couple of. DETROIT pizzas I think i'm gonna 1251 01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:01,120 Speaker 2: Use a detroit pizza crust and it sort of in, 1252 01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:06,479 Speaker 2: half lengthwise or, you know bisect it and turn that 1253 01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:08,599 Speaker 2: into like A, giant okay is that The word i'm? 1254 01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,960 Speaker 2: LOOKING for i, probably NOT but i know what. You 1255 01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:14,720 Speaker 2: Mean so i'm not. Cutting down i'm, cutting, across right 1256 01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:15,120 Speaker 2: you're kind of. 1257 01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:16,439 Speaker 1: Little, squares, yeah. 1258 01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:21,960 Speaker 2: No no, No no i'm cutting through the uh the uh what's? 1259 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,559 Speaker 2: It called the face of the sandwich of. The bread 1260 01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:28,240 Speaker 2: i'm not cutting down to, chop, it Okay because, i'm creating, 1261 01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:29,639 Speaker 2: you know like how you would cut like a piece 1262 01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,759 Speaker 2: of like muffleletta bread and you make a giant sandwich 1263 01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:33,439 Speaker 2: and you, Cut That and i'm doing that with the 1264 01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,240 Speaker 2: basically turning into. A facaca i'm gonna make Like an 1265 01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:41,599 Speaker 2: italian facaca sandwich to, cut up and maybe some cookies 1266 01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,559 Speaker 2: or something. Like that but just going over to friend's house, 1267 01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,559 Speaker 2: and uh we'll watch at least the first half or 1268 01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,640 Speaker 2: so there because We're on we're In, The midwest so 1269 01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:51,439 Speaker 2: the game starts at, what time like five forty? 1270 01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:55,240 Speaker 1: Five, six yeah the kickoff time at least listed. Kickoff 1271 01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,160 Speaker 1: time it won't kick off at Six, thirty eastern but 1272 01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:59,920 Speaker 1: it would be Five thirty central. For, you, Yeah right 1273 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:01,880 Speaker 1: so we'll watch the first half there and come home. 1274 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:05,920 Speaker 1: For bedtime who are the boys? ROOTING for i Think 1275 01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,439 Speaker 1: both pats because they Like, the niners so they can't 1276 01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:12,280 Speaker 1: root For. The, Twks okay i'm rooting For. THE seahawks 1277 01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:15,519 Speaker 1: I Like, Sam, darnold okay, fair Enough jay, Ed said 1278 01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:19,960 Speaker 1: i'd like to see them. Get, it look enjoy, the 1279 01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,880 Speaker 1: game be safe, out there whether you're going to a 1280 01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:26,799 Speaker 1: party or just hanging out, at home and Enjoy your sunday. 1281 01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:29,960 Speaker 1: Or not USUALLY an nfl, show here we have a 1282 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:31,720 Speaker 1: few moments throughout the course of a year where we 1283 01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:33,760 Speaker 1: have to talk ABOUT some. Nfl stuff we haven't done 1284 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,760 Speaker 1: one of. These before we've gotten, this SUGGESTION as i 1285 01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,960 Speaker 1: said earlier a million times over, the years we thought 1286 01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:41,320 Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot of college football. Going on 1287 01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,880 Speaker 1: we'll resume our normal programming, next week but for the, 1288 01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:45,960 Speaker 1: time being let's have a little fun and take a 1289 01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,840 Speaker 1: stroll down. Memory lane so hopefully everybody. Enjoyed that if 1290 01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,639 Speaker 1: you made it, this far, hit follow, hit subscribe we'd 1291 01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:53,559 Speaker 1: love to have you in our little tribe here throughout 1292 01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,960 Speaker 1: the course of the. Off Season as i've said now a, 1293 01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,640 Speaker 1: couple times we will resume normal programming, next week but 1294 01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,880 Speaker 1: wanted to give ourselves a chance to break free of, 1295 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,080 Speaker 1: college football if only for. 1296 01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,760 Speaker 2: One, episode yeah and we didn't break free at all 1297 01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:09,720 Speaker 2: break free about college football this. 1298 01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,120 Speaker 1: Entire time we're still we're still in this prison of our. 1299 01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,200 Speaker 1: Own creation but it. WAS fun, i, enjoyed. 1300 01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,760 Speaker 2: Yes, oh man going back and watching That. Rose ball by, 1301 01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,000 Speaker 2: the way both Of the Rose Bulls, Ohio state Utah 1302 01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,640 Speaker 2: And PENN state, usc crazy, just. 1303 01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:25,240 Speaker 1: ABSURD theatrics i. Loved it we're gonna leave, it. There 1304 01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:28,120 Speaker 1: folks enjoy. Your weekend be safe, Out there eat something 1305 01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,400 Speaker 1: good as you're watching The. Super bowl yes for That 1306 01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:32,519 Speaker 1: guy dan from. Myself tie we'll catch you all. Next 1307 01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:34,799 Speaker 1: week in, the meantime, stay, solid peace