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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian, I fucking love him.

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Speaker 7: It feels so good to crack this microphone and be

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Speaker 7: back in all of your respective lives. Thanks for being

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Speaker 7: with us with that extended hiatus. It is Monday, January

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Speaker 7: twenty six, the Year's twenty twenty six, episode five eighty

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Speaker 7: of the Anak and Florian podcasts, powered by all the

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Speaker 7: Smoke Productions. Yes, a new era for the UFC on

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Speaker 7: Paramount Plus and a new dawn for the antican Floring podcast.

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Speaker 7: As we hit year eleven, we are absolutely elated to

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Speaker 7: have aligned with all the Smoke productions. Thanks to Brian Daily.

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Speaker 7: Thank you also to Dave Katzman, everybody else behind the

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Speaker 7: scenes and otherwise. Away we go, can't flow year eleven.

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Speaker 7: Here we go.

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Speaker 8: It's nice to see him, my man, It's great to

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Speaker 8: see you man. It's been a while. Let me see

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Speaker 8: your face. Wow, look at this.

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Speaker 7: My face does not look great. You're you're reticularly crispy.

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Speaker 7: I'm still here in Las Vegas, so I'm going to

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Speaker 7: Australia right after the show. But it's always yeah, that's

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Speaker 7: that's the longest rest but we've ever had in the

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Speaker 7: history of the of the anticon Florent podcast.

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Speaker 8: To be sure, it was way too long, man.

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Speaker 3: So many great things happening, obviously, the alignment with all

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Speaker 3: the smoke, great stuff. My neighborhood didn't freeze over. The

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Speaker 3: Patriots are going to the Super Bowl, fights are back John.

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Speaker 9: What else?

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Speaker 7: How much snow did you get?

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Speaker 8: Probably like an inch? Everyone out?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And if you don't know, can Flow actually freaks

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Speaker 7: out when I reveal his location. He's in Charlotte, North Carolina,

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Speaker 7: but the community's probably gated to all hell. But I

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Speaker 7: actually expressed some concern over text message to Ken Flow

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Speaker 7: about this storm. What was the name of the storm?

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Speaker 7: I don't even know. Is it like fern or something?

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Speaker 7: So I expressed some concern to you because it looked

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Speaker 7: like the Carolinas we're gonna get absolutely smashed. My family

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Speaker 7: on the border of New York and Connecticut got like

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Speaker 7: out here in the desert, and yes, was able to

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Speaker 7: watch the AFC Championship game and sort of marinated everything

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Speaker 7: that was UFC three twenty four. But we are so

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Speaker 7: excited to be here, and one thing that we haven't

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Speaker 7: necessarily had over the decade long history of the Anakin

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Speaker 7: Florian podcast is a powerhouse partner, so we are very

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Speaker 7: happy to be with all the smoke productions coming up today,

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Speaker 7: in about seven minutes, we are scheduled to be joined

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Speaker 7: by a mix Maarial Arts. Mount Rushmore athlete the great

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Speaker 7: Demitrius Johnson, the future UFC Hall of Famer, schedule to

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Speaker 7: join us. We'll recap, of course UFC three twenty four.

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Speaker 7: Ray Longo minute's still a part of the program. Of course,

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Speaker 7: of course beckons this weekend. So Ken Flow, I did right,

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Speaker 7: Yes, Now, if you have followed this show in the past,

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Speaker 7: oftentimes I have leaned on the internet for some would

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Speaker 7: you know he'll want to wet his beak with some

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 7: I think in a lot of respects the telecast took

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Speaker 7: Ken Flow interim UFC Lightweight title was on the line

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was an amazing fight and both guys really delivered.

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Speaker 8: It doesn't deliver. They fight conservatively because the belt is

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Speaker 3: Both guys fought like they were trying to finish the

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Speaker 3: The guy absolutely deserves it. He's been one of the

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Speaker 7: Gamro may never fight for the title. At one point

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Speaker 7: can't go. Now. The first time Gaichee challenged for the

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Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely. I mean he went against a guy who

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Speaker 3: this was a massive fight. Of course, being the first

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Speaker 3: I think there was a lot of stress also involved

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Speaker 3: I think Geechee was kind of well, perhaps showing some

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Speaker 7: if I were to use the adverb brilliantly to describe

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Speaker 7: But it certainly had action, and I think in twenty

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Speaker 7: Well, he also has tremendous grip strength and when he

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Speaker 7: But Geechee was physical and he looked heavy to me. Now,

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Speaker 7: I know, Geichee doesn't always have a six pack and

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Speaker 7: Me on bro So Dominic Cruz. I don't know if

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Speaker 10: First off, register did Domino Cruz And he's done a

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Speaker 4: Invest in Apple? Invest in Apple and Navidia invest in

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Speaker 10: My sharks is a very short win of opportunity to

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Speaker 10: As far as an athlete, I felt like I would

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Speaker 10: But you have you cannot fight somebody where they're strong

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Speaker 4: You can't grapple like. That's what Matt would say to me.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I just think there's a But that's how

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Speaker 7: Basical it's Johnson with Us live on the Anakatorian podcast.

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Speaker 7: So in terms of your day to day now YouTube channel.

436
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Speaker 7: Obviously you're a doting dad. What does a day hold

437
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Speaker 7: for U? For one of the greatest mixed martial arts

438
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Speaker 7: athletes of all time?

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Speaker 10: So you said, take care of the wife and your kids,

440
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Speaker 10: getting lunch is ready. My two boys are homeschool so

441
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 10: make sure they're getting their school work done. Then I

442
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Speaker 10: still work out almost every single day. I kind of

443
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Speaker 10: dial back on a jiu jitsu just because I'm in

444
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Speaker 10: so busy with the YouTube channel. Got a MAGA coming out,

445
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Speaker 10: got a lot of practice coming out. So just same

446
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Speaker 10: focus man, just trying to stay healthy and enjoy life.

447
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Speaker 7: So when we launched this podcast in twenty fifteen, you

448
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Speaker 7: were on episode two. Today is episode five eighty, so

449
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Speaker 7: oh my good or the first high profile fighter that

450
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Speaker 7: we tried to book, and we appreciate that appearance, which

451
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Speaker 7: was April thirteenth of twenty fifteen. But a month later,

452
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Speaker 7: May sixteenth of twenty fifteenth, I'm in a pool with

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Speaker 7: you in the Philippines. You had just submitted Kyogi Horigucci

454
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Speaker 7: and I'm saying to you, and I'm staying to you, Bro,

455
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Speaker 7: I'm like, dude, you're fucking Lebron James right. Like I'm

456
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Speaker 7: just I'm not a kid, I'm much older than you.

457
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Speaker 7: But I'm like, I'm starstruck in a pool with Demetrius Johnson.

458
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Speaker 7: You're there as a guest fighter, and I'm like, dude,

459
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Speaker 7: like you're Lebron James, Like you got to be making

460
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Speaker 7: a million to show, a million to win. And I

461
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Speaker 7: have to say, though, I just have to say, And

462
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Speaker 7: you know your YouTube channel is on fire. I like,

463
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Speaker 7: if you wanted to be an analyst, like on our desk,

464
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Speaker 7: all you would have to do is fucking call the UFC.

465
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Speaker 7: But I know you'll take this as a compliment, but

466
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Speaker 7: relative to your greatness, you might be the most underpaid

467
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Speaker 7: fighter of all time, right because Volkanovsky bought a fucking farm.

468
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Speaker 7: And if your prime had existed ten years later, DJ,

469
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Speaker 7: you wouldn't have to do anything on YouTube. If you

470
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Speaker 7: didn't want to.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's true.

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Speaker 10: I think I was probably very underpaid as a professional athlete.

473
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Speaker 4: I never forget.

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Speaker 10: It's funny you mentioned that story because when I was there,

475
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Speaker 10: I remember walking to Sean Shelby and I was like, Okay,

476
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Speaker 10: so what's next And he goes like, you know what

477
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Speaker 10: do We're gonna have you fight?

478
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Speaker 1: Uh?

479
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Speaker 10: Do how you fight John Dottson. I was like, you know,

480
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Speaker 10: I made more money fight Chris Curry. Also, then I

481
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 10: thought Hugual Horgucci. I was like, can I just fight

482
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Speaker 10: him again? Because you know he was you know, and

483
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Speaker 10: then you know, that's an unfortunate thing. And mixed martial

484
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Speaker 10: arts is that. You know, there's been a lot of

485
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Speaker 10: things talking about pay for who are boxing, and you know,

486
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Speaker 10: I'm I'm grateful, like I was able to go to

487
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Speaker 10: one championship and start making great money.

488
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Speaker 4: A lot of people think all the money is in

489
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Speaker 4: the UFC. It's not.

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Speaker 8: I had I know.

491
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Speaker 10: Athletes we are making way more money outside of the

492
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Speaker 10: UFC who aren't even champions. So I think, you know,

493
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Speaker 10: it is what it is, and there's nothing you can

494
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Speaker 10: do about it. I can do is save your money,

495
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Speaker 10: invest your money and That's what I did. Like ever,

496
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Speaker 10: so I started fighting Watch two back in twenty twelve.

497
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Speaker 10: I saved a lot of my money and I put

498
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Speaker 10: it in investments, a lot of my money. Like, you know,

499
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Speaker 10: I didn't buy a farm. I did that, but you know,

500
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Speaker 10: I got a house in Arizona. I got two houses

501
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Speaker 10: in Washington. I got a rental, uh, I got I

502
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Speaker 10: got a lot of things that I made smart investments

503
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Speaker 10: where I can just enjoy do you two?

504
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Speaker 4: Stuff is fun. I enjoyed doing that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, but there will come a point in time I

506
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 10: was like, Okay, don't YouTube Like I'm just like, I'm

507
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 10: just like just like I did with fighting, you know,

508
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Speaker 10: but shit, I wish I could buy a fucking farm.

509
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Speaker 10: But like I said before, you know, when I look

510
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Speaker 10: back and I look at everything I've done and what

511
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Speaker 10: I have, I'm like, Okay, we're sitting pretty nice.

512
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Speaker 7: Well, dude, I don't know what your appetite is like

513
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 7: to travel. I just think you you would light up

514
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 7: a studio, you would light up a desk. I don't

515
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Speaker 7: know if you have any appetite to join our team,

516
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Speaker 7: but I.

517
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Speaker 10: Think I think I think we join a team or

518
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Speaker 10: where you join like under like you work for the UFC,

519
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 10: you work for this, you can't say the ship you

520
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 10: want to say right where it's like if I was

521
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Speaker 10: on this, I'm like, why the fuck is Ron Murphy

522
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Speaker 10: not getting a title shot? Like I want somebody to

523
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 10: explain that to me right the fuck now, Like somebody

524
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Speaker 10: tell me may it makes sense?

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Speaker 4: I'm like, can you fire that motherfucker real quick? Product? Yeah?

526
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Speaker 10: And it's and it's not it's no disrespect to anybody.

527
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Speaker 10: It's just if I if I'm my wife, she falls

528
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Speaker 10: a sport, not like I do. But when I go

529
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Speaker 10: out there and I explain to her like, hey, you know,

530
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Speaker 10: this is what's going on, and she's like, well, isn't

531
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Speaker 10: he on a five fight eight fight win streak? And

532
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Speaker 10: I'm like yeah, she goes, why is he geting to

533
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 10: Tama shot? And she's a casual, right, so you have

534
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Speaker 10: to That's where I feel like I'm not the best

535
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Speaker 10: fit for a company brand where it's like I tell

536
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Speaker 10: that is and you know, and I think I just

537
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Speaker 10: literally watched Dio Lopez versus Alex Pokanowski you last yesterday,

538
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Speaker 10: watched the fight by fight and I'm like, it was

539
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Speaker 10: a great fight, you know, There's a couple of things

540
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Speaker 10: in the fight where die Lopez did well, but I

541
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Speaker 10: felt like it was a clear four to one like

542
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Speaker 10: it was.

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Speaker 8: It was a blowout.

544
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Speaker 4: It wasn't like it was close.

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Speaker 10: Die Lopez did have some moments in the fight, he

546
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Speaker 10: did shine, But as far as like you know, I

547
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Speaker 10: think it's just that's just my pain where I feel

548
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Speaker 10: like I'm better suited for where I do.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no, And I think that makes some sense. But

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Speaker 7: I would say, at least long term, don't let that

551
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Speaker 7: necessarily hold you back. I mean, dude, I got trouble.

552
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Speaker 7: I got in trouble last week.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 7: You know, Dean Thomas at one point said that the

555
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Speaker 7: fight between Vien and Janji Dobain and Mackenzie Dern is

556
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Speaker 7: the most inconsequential title fight in UFC history. I imagine

557
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Speaker 7: he got a phone call after that, and you know,

558
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Speaker 7: I suggested our events were too long, and that was

559
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Speaker 7: probably a regrettable utterance by me. So but you know, yeah,

560
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Speaker 7: the Laron Murphy thing or the mops are you a brag?

561
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Speaker 7: Like I'm a promoter right, Like I'm promoting the rematch

562
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Speaker 7: between Volkanovsky and Diego Lopez. But I would say to

563
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Speaker 7: you on live television right now that in a straight meritocracy,

564
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Speaker 7: there's really no defense for that rematch happening. So anyway,

565
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Speaker 7: I think you have a ton to add before I

566
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Speaker 7: let you go. I'm sure you get asked a lot

567
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Speaker 7: about your boys. I did have a pantosia question, but

568
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Speaker 7: in terms of your boys and their athletic pursuits, you know,

569
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Speaker 7: I mean, I'm not even a fighter, and people all

570
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Speaker 7: the time want to know what my daughters are doing athletically.

571
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Speaker 7: I'm like, dude, just back off for a second. The

572
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Speaker 7: fucking cheerleaders. I'm just curious, like, what's your boys do?

573
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Speaker 7: And you know, how they might handle the pressure that

574
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Speaker 7: comes with being DJ's son.

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Speaker 10: I think there's a give and take for like, you know,

576
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Speaker 10: my oldest someone's doing jiu jitsu. He he loves jiu jitsu,

577
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Speaker 10: but he hated competing because everybody in their mom would

578
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Speaker 10: be watching him like, oh, it's means John's son. And

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Speaker 10: I you know, I didn't start training until I was

580
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Speaker 10: eighteen years old, so my whole life was playing football, basketball, track,

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Speaker 10: you know, just.

582
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Speaker 4: Being a kid.

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Speaker 10: And I want the same thing for both my kids.

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Speaker 10: You know, even now when he does straight to conditioning

585
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Speaker 10: for football. You know, people are like, oh, that's his sign,

586
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 10: and then they expect him to do X Y Z,

587
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Speaker 10: And it's almost like, Doug, you ain't me.

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Speaker 4: I was like, I don't want you to be do.

589
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Speaker 10: I want you to be better than me, Like you

590
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 10: don't have to play football, but he chooses to and

591
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Speaker 10: and for me, it's it's kind of like a curse essentially,

592
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Speaker 10: because you know, like people expect him to be great,

593
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Speaker 10: and I do expect him to be great whatever he does,

594
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Speaker 10: whatever he decides to do in life where there is

595
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Speaker 10: being you know, a reptilian expert or a translate expert,

596
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 10: or a football player or just somebody who loves to

597
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 10: be a kid. You know. I just that's the only

598
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Speaker 10: thing I hate about like my career is that it.

599
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Speaker 10: You know, when people look at my son, they're like, oh,

600
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Speaker 10: he's going to be something like he has to genentic,

601
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Speaker 10: pull the makeup.

602
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Speaker 4: It's only he's going to tap into it.

603
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Speaker 7: So yeah, well that's a power name. Maverick Johnson.

604
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Speaker 4: I'll tell you that, Oh Mavericks.

605
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Speaker 10: See, Maverick's like me, like Timer is a thrill seeker,

606
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Speaker 10: Like that's oldest.

607
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Speaker 4: He likes to do stuff.

608
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Speaker 10: Where Maverick he was like, he's athletic, technical, can do

609
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 10: all these things, but he does not care.

610
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Speaker 4: And even for me, I just trained with armor shriek,

611
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 4: and he goes, why don't you fight? I was like,

612
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Speaker 4: what do you mean?

613
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Speaker 10: He goes, Look how fucking fast you are. He goes,

614
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 10: look what you're doing right now? I was like, because

615
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 10: I don't need to. I don't care to. And then

616
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 10: he goes, brother, that's crazy. He goes, brother, you should, brother,

617
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 10: you make so much money. I was like, I don't.

618
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Speaker 10: I don't care. And that's where Maverick gets it from.

619
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Speaker 10: Where Maverick can do all these things. He goes, I

620
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 10: just don't care.

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Speaker 7: So no, I mean, I know the fan base would

622
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 7: be like, dude, what is DJ's number to fight Pantosia

623
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 7: is a fucking twelve.

624
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Speaker 4: I don't want that smoke, panto. I don't want that booked.

625
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 10: You know, when I train like that, it's almost like

626
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 10: the amount of hours and the sacrifice, it's just not

627
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 10: as fun where I can just drop in and blah

628
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 10: blah blah to do a day out the strengthing conditioning,

629
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Speaker 10: and then.

630
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Speaker 4: It's just not worth.

631
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's just not worth it to me, It's like

632
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 10: it would have to be a god awful number that

633
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 10: they would not be able to, Like, you know, John

634
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 10: Jones turned out thirty men. I would have taken that

635
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 10: fucking thirty minute easily.

636
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Speaker 8: But we still get to watch you train.

637
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Speaker 3: Man, It's all it's awesome seeing you go to jiu

638
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 3: jitsu competition that you're training with Mikey Musumeshi and all

639
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 3: these awesome guys.

640
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 8: Dude, you're You're a martial artist man, through and through.

641
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 8: It's awesome to see.

642
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, and I people think I'm gonna be fucking forty

643
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 10: this year. It's like I don't want to be What

644
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 10: am I doing? What am I doing when I'm finding

645
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 10: I'm forty, Like, I have so much other stuff, Like

646
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 10: I said, I have uh, Electrolytes coming out. I have

647
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 10: a manga coming out, So I'm like, I think getting

648
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 10: all this stuff. It's like I start working all the

649
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 10: other projects and then training and the kids and the

650
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 10: wife and all the other stuff.

651
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 4: So I'm very busy man. I'm happy.

652
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 7: Well, congrats on the life that you have built. In

653
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 7: the eyes of many people, singularly, you are the greatest

654
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 7: mixed martial arts fighter of all time, and just be

655
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 7: ready because the UFC Hall of Fame is gonna come

656
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 7: calling at some point in time. And I'm still gonna

657
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 7: hold out a little hope that even if it's a

658
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 7: guest appearance, we have you on that UFC Way and

659
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 7: Show or on a desk at some point. You're a

660
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 7: credit to the sport, my man. And thanks for a

661
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 7: quarter of an hour today, Champ. We really appreciate it.

662
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 10: Of course, and shout out to you man. I never

663
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 10: forget your first day and a job back in twenty twelve.

664
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Speaker 10: I think it was Sydney, Australia is finding em a

665
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 10: call and you're up to kid on the block and

666
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 10: you're had your backpack, You're walking around. So happy to

667
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 10: see you still in the fight, John, and have you

668
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 10: see you're still in the fight.

669
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Speaker 7: Love you brother, Thank you so much, man, Thank you there.

670
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 7: He is one of the greatest of all time. Demitrius

671
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 7: Johnson with us here live on the Anakin Florian Podcast. Now,

672
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 7: there are athletes like Anderson Silva and John Jones who

673
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 7: may aren't on every single fans Mount Rushmore because there

674
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 7: have been some transgressions or drugs whatever, right, But George

675
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 7: San Pierre and Dimitrius Johnson are on every Mount Rushmore,

676
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 7: every single Mount Rushmore. Those two are ubiquitously regarded as

677
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 7: the two greatest of all time. And you see the

678
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 7: way he just lights up every single room that he's in.

679
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Speaker 3: He's an absolute beast man. That was a guy that

680
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 3: was dangerous everywhere, a true mixed martial artist.

681
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Speaker 8: And he's still doing it. Man, still training daily.

682
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean there's no doubt that he still I mean,

683
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Speaker 7: I don't know, I don't know what the number would be,

684
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 7: fifteen million, you know, but him fighting Vins, Joshua Vn,

685
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 7: I mean, it would be an absolute dream.

686
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Speaker 6: All right.

687
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 7: Thanks to Demitris Johnson for joining us. It wasn't eleven

688
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 7: years between appearances for DJ on the show. He did

689
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 7: join us over the years, but yeah, it was funny

690
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 7: to look back. I went on to SoundCloud dot com

691
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Speaker 7: today and found the audio of DJ from April thirteenth

692
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Speaker 7: of twenty fifteen. All Right, so Justin Geichie over Patty

693
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 7: Pimblet by unanimous decision. He is now the UFC's Interim

694
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 7: Lightweight Championship and uh that in theory sets up a

695
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 7: fight between Justin Gaichie and the Man that can flow

696
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,479
Speaker 7: and everybody else just fucking gowks over iliots O Poitia.

697
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 7: So what do you make of a lightweight championship unification

698
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 7: bout between iliots O Poitia and Justin Geigee?

699
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 3: Honestly, I think it's the more competitive fight here because

700
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 3: of how willing and how dangerous Gaechee is, you know,

701
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 3: to trade on the feet. This is a guy who's

702
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 3: not going to be afraid of anybody if he if

703
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 3: he believes that the guy across from is going to

704
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 3: try to punch him more strike his way to victory,

705
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 3: Getchie will welcome that. And we know about Getchee's power.

706
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 3: I think he's certainly going to be the larger, more

707
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 3: powerful guy in a lot of ways. Maybe not the

708
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 3: faster guy, but he certainly has the power uh to

709
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,479
Speaker 3: knock out Toporia. I think it's gonna be a very

710
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 3: very tough fight for him. If Toporia is in his

711
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 3: peak form and mentally fit and able, I think it's

712
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 3: gonna be a tough fight for Gegie, no question about it.

713
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 3: But I think Gee Geechie will welcome that trade any

714
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: any day.

715
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

716
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 7: Few things I like watching more on Astagram these days

717
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 7: than armand Saurgian eating five thousand calories in one sitting,

718
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 7: eating a goat or whatever it is that he is

719
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 7: eating all of it, usually with his hands. There's probably

720
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 7: gonna be plenty more where that came from, because even

721
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 7: though he's training every day and out there with our

722
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 7: guy Bear at Santos Studio, I just feel like he

723
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 7: might have to wait a year to compete. But yeah,

724
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 7: Elliotts will put in justin Gaigie real quick. What did

725
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 7: you make of Demetrius Johnson's comments about Patty Pimblet. We

726
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 7: were sort of starting to get into his strategy and

727
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 7: his game plan a little bit, but yeah, right, like

728
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 7: Matt Hume just has a zero tolerance policy for that

729
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 7: type of approach to that type of a matchup. I mean,

730
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 7: Patty Pimblet certainly did the opposite of path of least resistance.

731
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Speaker 7: Say what you will about Gaygee's takedown defense, but it

732
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 7: sounds like if that was DJ's fight and he was

733
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 7: Pimblet the athlete, he would be of a one track

734
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 7: mine when it comes to his approach to that matchup.

735
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was interesting, you know, I know that Dana

736
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 3: White said that Patty people had told him he was

737
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 3: going to look for the knockout in this one, and

738
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 3: Dana was kind of scratching his head there, but I

739
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 3: guess he followed through. Perhaps he had other plans, you know,

740
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 3: but if you're a coach, you know, I think they

741
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 3: were saying the right things as far as what he

742
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 3: needed to do or what he needed to do to

743
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 3: have his best chances of winning that fight. And of course,

744
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: he's a much much better submission guy than Justin Geegee is,

745
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: and the easiest path to victory, of course, would have

746
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 3: been to put Geichee on his back. He tried a

747
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 3: couple times. Some of the takedowns, you know, were telegraphed

748
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 3: a little bit.

749
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 8: Gachie did it.

750
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 3: Also did a great job defending a lot of those takedowns.

751
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 3: So I think he tried at times, but it wasn't

752
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: this singular approach of utilizing his striking to get into

753
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 3: grappling range, to utilize the takedowns. It was more I'm

754
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 3: gonna trade with him, look for a takedown. I'm gonna

755
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 3: trade with him, look for a takedown here and there.

756
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 3: He sprinkled takedowns, but that wasn't his focus, and I

757
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 3: think a lot of it should have been even so

758
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 3: focus if he was trying to win that belt and

759
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 3: not just entertain the fans.

760
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that's well laid out by you. So the

761
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 7: thesis statement Scousers don't get knocked out, So I think

762
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 7: we we can lean into that. I think we need

763
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 7: to amend it and say, sort of Scousers are harder

764
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 7: to knock out than the average human being.

765
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 8: Scouser's name, Patty Pemblet can't be knocked out.

766
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, Justin Geechee has a tremendous chin, tremendous durability, amazing

767
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 7: bone density. I mean, he's just a hardened individual and

768
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 7: such a great athlete. I filled in on the UFC's

769
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 7: gambling show on the Line and I had to give

770
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 7: a pick on a total right, and so I went

771
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 7: over two and a half rounds in Gaegee and Pimblet

772
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 7: because I just felt like both of these guys were

773
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 7: going to be able to absorb an appreciable amount of damage.

774
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 7: You know, when you hear me talk about like Matt

775
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 7: Brown or Josh Barnett saying that the fight either lack

776
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 7: technique or look like a prelim, you know, are you

777
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 7: sort of thinking these are a couple of MMA legends

778
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 7: being a little bit ornery or are you able to

779
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 7: lean into that and sort of understand it? You know,

780
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 7: I think you understand when you're Josh Barnett, not that

781
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 7: he gives a modicum of a shit, but that when

782
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 7: you push out something like that, you know they're going

783
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 7: to write articles about it, and talking heads like.

784
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 3: Us might talk about sure and listen. I think I

785
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 3: kind of had that same perspective on the fight. I

786
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 3: think there were some moments where technique was thrown out,

787
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: but I also understand that sometimes you do whatever the

788
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 3: hell it takes to get the win. Sometimes, you know, war, battle,

789
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 3: whatever kind of combat, it's not gonna be pretty, and

790
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 3: you do whatever it takes to get the win. And

791
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 3: the other thing is I think that when your leg

792
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 3: is compromised or when you have been hurt at some

793
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 3: point during the fight, you're not going to be at

794
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 3: one hundred percent capacity to think your way through and

795
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 3: let the techniques just shine throughout. You know, the format

796
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: of twenty five minutes, right, I mean yeah, And emotions

797
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 3: can get the better of you and all those things.

798
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 8: So I think that that is completely understandable.

799
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 3: I think that though both of those guys are probably

800
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: capable of delivering more technical performances. But sometimes it doesn't

801
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: call for a technical performance, it calls for a savage

802
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 3: to go out there and get it done.

803
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 7: Yeah. No, I wish Gaichee's career had enough left in

804
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 7: it for them to actually fight again, because I enjoyed

805
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 7: it so much. I asked Justin Gaigee before this fight,

806
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 7: over under two and a half fights left in your career?

807
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 7: And he said over, And I think that actually looks

808
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 7: pretty good at this point in time. But yeah, we'll

809
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 7: see what happens. We'll see how Patty Pimblet rebuilds from here,

810
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 7: and we'll see how the lightweight division moves forward. But

811
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 7: congratulations to the UFC Interim lightweight Champion, Justin Gaichee. And

812
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 7: maybe some time for him to work on that six

813
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 7: and a half handicap on the golf course while he recovers.

814
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 7: Maybe it'll be right back into training after four weeks

815
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 7: because eliots Oputia Beckins on June fourteenth, all right, Ken Flow,

816
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 7: Shan O'Malley and Song Ya Dong. Close fight, yes, but

817
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 7: I certainly thought that that was two to one Sugar

818
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 7: Shan O'Malley, and I know myself and others at times

819
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 7: have wondered aloud about Sean's durability and how it would

820
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 7: hold up in fight, and this was a physical challenge

821
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 7: certainly in many respects. I feel really good for Sean.

822
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 7: I feel like his quote, you know, I'm gonna be

823
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 7: all the way in until I'm all the way out.

824
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 7: It's very telling about his mindset going into this fight.

825
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 7: But Sean O'Malley gets it done. First win in a

826
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 7: long time, first win since the title defense against Marlon

827
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 7: chidover which you think of the comin event, you know.

828
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 3: I think there's two criticisms that get levied at Sean O'Malley.

829
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 3: One perhaps his mindset that maybe he quit before he

830
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 3: lost that fight against Morad dualas Pheley both of them,

831
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 3: and then the other thing might be his grappling, right.

832
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 3: I think the grappling is I think exaggerated. I think

833
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: he's a good grappler, and I think he put that

834
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 3: mindset thing, that criticism to rest with his performance on

835
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 3: Saturday night.

836
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 8: I thought he won round one. It was close. I

837
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 8: thought he won round one.

838
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 3: I thought round two he lost because Song Ya Doong

839
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 3: was able to be more effective.

840
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 8: And had more time on the ground to win that round.

841
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 3: I think in round three is where Sean o'mans not

842
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 3: only showed his striking technique and his ability to stop

843
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 3: those takedowns when he needed to, but I think that

844
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 3: he was going for it. He went in with the

845
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 3: mindset that perhaps he lost round one and that he

846
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 3: needs to do everything he can in round three to

847
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 3: try to get the finish, and boy did he shine.

848
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 3: He looked fantastic, whether he was picking him apart from

849
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 3: the outside or landing some critical shots from the inside

850
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 3: with knees and uppercuts. I thought his footwork looked way

851
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 3: sharper around three, So I was really impressed with the

852
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 3: way he approached that fight from a mental standpoint. And

853
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 3: who knows how much that had to do with morob

854
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 3: or the criticism or anything like that, But more than

855
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 3: anything else, I think that he is showing that he's

856
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 3: a different guy mentally.

857
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 8: He's maturing as a fighter, as.

858
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 3: A human being, and I thought it was a terrific

859
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 3: performance against a guy in Songy Dog, who I think

860
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 3: is an unbelievable mixed martial artist who doesn't get enough

861
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: credit himself.

862
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, hard got to beat opportunity loss for songa donk

863
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Speaker 7: to be sure, I know some people thought he won

864
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Speaker 7: the fight. I was not of that group. All right,

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Speaker 7: plenty more coming up on UFC three twenty four as

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Speaker 7: we now welcome in the star of the program. Let's

867
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Speaker 7: get to the Ray Long a minute.

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00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 5: Now, time for Ray Long minute.

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Speaker 8: Now, I'm gonna put a hole in this fucking.

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Speaker 5: The Ray Long No minute.

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00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 4: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 6: Hey, what do we got guys? I missed you guys.

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00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 8: Oh, we're back, miss the We got some new dealings here.

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Speaker 6: What are we doing?

875
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 7: We got all the smoke coming your way. Ray Man,

876
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 7: you look good. You look good with that with that

877
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Speaker 7: uh new lower third graphic. Your name looks good if

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Speaker 7: you don't know, and you are joining us today, thanks

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Speaker 7: to everybody for being here live at his episode five

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Speaker 7: of the Anak and Florian Podcast, now powered by All

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Speaker 7: the Smoke Fight, thrilled to have our new partners, all

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Speaker 7: the Smoke productions along for the ride. Well as we

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Speaker 7: kick off our eleventh year and the ceremonial cigar from

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Speaker 7: Raymond Longo. How are we feeling, man? I mean, I know,

885
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 7: for a guy like you who largely devote seven or

886
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 7: eight hours to these UFC live events, watches them forty

887
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 7: plus times a year. You had to be feeling these

888
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 7: six weeks off like the rest of us. It's just

889
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 7: good to have fighting back in our lives.

890
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree with that.

891
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 10: Now.

892
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 6: It was I'll tell you though, it was a well

893
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 6: needed vacation. On the other hand, to you know, I started,

894
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 6: Uh my Saturday nights were freed. I went back to that,

895
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 6: you know, going out to eat and doing something.

896
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 7: So spending a lot of money though, going out to

897
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Speaker 7: dinner on Saturday.

898
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, money flowing in, John flowing.

899
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Speaker 7: Speaking of money flowing in, I thought Chris Wyman did

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00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 7: an outstanding job on television. What'd you make of the

901
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 7: All American?

902
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 6: Ah, the old I told him this one hundred times.

903
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 6: I think he's perfect for that slot. Uh. I think

904
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 6: it's a great gig for him. You know, he's got

905
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 6: a good presence, super intelligence, speaks well, he definitely knows

906
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 6: the fight game, and uh, you know, he could bring

907
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 6: humor to the to the desk, to he's I think

908
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 6: as time goes on, his true colors will enhance the broadcast.

909
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 6: But I think he does a great job. Always said

910
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Speaker 6: I thought the Morning Show where he was phenomenal. Him

911
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 6: in d C. So I think big things for him.

912
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 6: He's he's good with that.

913
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 7: I think when he lets the comedy go, he'll.

914
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Speaker 5: Be no way, no way.

915
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 6: You see how happy him to see this guy after

916
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 6: all he's done to me.

917
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 5: I've never heard you call me intelligent before. I'm very honest.

918
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Speaker 5: I mean, my week has just been made.

919
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Speaker 2: But it was.

920
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Speaker 6: Intelligent in relation to the mixed Martial arts game.

921
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Speaker 8: You know, you got a great he's walking that comment back.

922
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 5: I like it in broad terms. That was that was great.

923
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 6: We've had this conversation a bunch of times, so I've

924
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 6: always I think there's the best thing for him. I

925
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 6: love it. I always thought he was good from day one.

926
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 6: And again, you know, for the people that don't know him,

927
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 6: within a year, they'll get to know him. You know.

928
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 6: I hope this bull busting comes out and all the

929
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,919
Speaker 6: the stuff we used to have fun in the gym

930
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Speaker 6: with comes out, because it's it's pretty, it's it's it's

931
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Speaker 6: a good time.

932
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Speaker 5: It was on my first time on this paramount card.

933
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Speaker 1: They had told us we had to be careful with

934
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Speaker 1: poking each other, and I go, bro, that you're taking

935
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Speaker 1: my game.

936
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 9: I thought it was me.

937
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Speaker 1: It turns out the reason why they were so they

938
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Speaker 1: addressed that so quickly on the first phone call we

939
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Speaker 1: had before the event.

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Speaker 5: Was not because of me.

941
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Speaker 1: It was because of Bisbeg and Dominic. Apparently they go

942
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Speaker 1: after each other. So I ended up being like the

943
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: referee for those guys for the whole show.

944
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Speaker 3: They almost fought each other on the Fox Sports desk,

945
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 3: like they literally almost trust.

946
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 5: Me, they have a unique relationship.

947
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Speaker 6: I can't hilarious.

948
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Speaker 8: Yeah, so you need in the middle, in the middle

949
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Speaker 8: of him, Chris in case.

950
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Speaker 1: They put me in between both of them, and uh yeah,

951
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 1: well yeah, congratulations, congratulations.

952
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 5: The dominant Cruz well earned Hall of Fame career.

953
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: Yes, I was really happy to be next to him

954
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: when they did the announcement. You know, he's not a

955
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: guy who shows his emotions too often, and so it

956
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: was cool to see a little bit of some water

957
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: in his eyes.

958
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 5: He's a human being. He's not a complete sociopath.

959
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 8: Right, not completely.

960
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, he's got a little human in him.

961
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 7: You know, Chris. We just had Demetrius Johnson on and

962
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 7: we asked him how he thinks he will emote when

963
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 7: his name is called. And I got to think, you're

964
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 7: only a human being Chris one of the more decorated

965
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Speaker 7: UFC bedaway champions of all time. Hard not to think

966
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 7: as that's going on for Dominic, how you might react

967
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,959
Speaker 7: when that moment surfaces for you. And I actually thought

968
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 7: Dom would have been even more tearful, But I think

969
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Speaker 7: when you're in the mode as an analyst, right and

970
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 7: by the way, hilarious. The fucking Bisping was there when

971
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 7: Dom got inducted, because they do have a true love

972
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 7: hate relationship which we could get into.

973
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Speaker 5: But Chris, I mean had a congratulate him. It was

974
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 5: really hard for him.

975
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, dude, Like I think if that's you up there,

976
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 7: it might be fucking waterworks, depending on which moment they

977
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Speaker 7: catch you in it.

978
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: Annik, I do agree with you. I think I think

979
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: it throws you off a little bit more when you're working.

980
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 1: I was next to Mark Kerr when he got inducted,

981
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: just ring it and that was it's Mark Kerr, right,

982
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 1: I'm not messing it up.

983
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, that that was really special. He you know, he's

984
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 5: been out of the game for so long.

985
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: They announced that smashing smashing machine thing like maybe like

986
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,479
Speaker 1: five years ago. I think I remember the Rock coming

987
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,479
Speaker 1: in and mentioning you were doing the movie five years later.

988
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: You know, they got Mark Kerr thinking he's going to

989
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: the event to start promoting the Smashing Machine, and.

990
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 5: He was completely caught off guard.

991
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: You know, Mark curse the age now where a lot

992
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: of people don't recognize him.

993
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 5: You know, he doesn't get the love like you know

994
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 5: he used to.

995
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: And to see him get that type of love, you know,

996
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 1: from the UFC and then also all the fans, that

997
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: was really special. And I think I think, you know,

998
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: when you're on the desk, you have to act professionally,

999
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: you're in your students time, you're talking about the fight.

1000
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 5: Your mind there's in different places.

1001
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit harder to get as

1002
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: emotional than as if you were just kind of in

1003
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: the crowd and quote off guard.

1004
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 5: To get your family with you and stuff like that.

1005
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was gonna ask Rogan, like, Joe, did you

1006
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 7: just respectfully decline when they tried to duck you? Or

1007
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 7: like like, if we do this big video for Joe,

1008
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 7: He'll be like, no, I'm good, thank you, Let's just

1009
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 7: get to the next fight. Yeah.

1010
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 5: Did that did he say he refuses be in the No?

1011
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 7: No, I don't think so. I just you know, I

1012
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 7: think maybe you know, because I would. I don't expect

1013
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 7: Joe to ever retire, you know, I'm hopeful that I

1014
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 7: was gonna call fast. I do believe that's everything that

1015
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 7: Joe does. That his favorite job is this one.

1016
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 5: He said, he said he'll leave if Dana leaves, right, Yeah,

1017
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 5: that's kind of his thing.

1018
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, they might be there forever. This is the

1019
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 7: Ray Longo minute here, Ray, I would love to hear

1020
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 7: your thoughts on Patty Pimlet and Justin Gaigie and just

1021
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 7: everything that, uh that went down with this Paramount plus debut.

1022
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 6: Look, everything looks good. Look exciting fight. I think that's

1023
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 6: exactly what the UFC wants to mean as far as

1024
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 6: you know, technical ability for a heavy for a title fight.

1025
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, even with me, couldn't get Gaichie

1026
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 6: to calm down. I mean he looked like it's just

1027
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 6: out of control umitic time. So uh, very exciting fight,

1028
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 6: you know, kind of back and forth. I think, Uh,

1029
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 6: you know there were times when you thought maybe Pat

1030
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 6: Pimblet is gonna come back and pull this out. But uh,

1031
00:47:54,160 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 6: technically for a title fight, Uh, I'm not sure what

1032
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 6: I was looking at me because it was like most

1033
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 6: of the kind of like a boxing match, you know

1034
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 6: what I mean, So imagine watching Lomnchenko or somebody else.

1035
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 6: I just it was. It was a little loft, but

1036
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 6: very exciting fight competitive. I think again, a big hit

1037
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 6: for paramount. I think that's exactly what they want to see.

1038
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 6: But I will say this, you know, I just I

1039
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 6: do worry about Gaichee a little bit.

1040
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 7: Uh.

1041
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 6: I think he's starting to slurry his words a little bit.

1042
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 6: I think he's taken a little too much punishment. And

1043
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 6: the Iliot to Poria fight will be a disaster that.

1044
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 6: It's almost guaranteed. The POORI is not Patty Pemlet. He

1045
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 6: hits like a truck. He's going to stay in the pocket.

1046
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 6: And it looks like, based on the way Patty took

1047
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 6: those punches that Illiot will be able to navigate through that.

1048
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 6: I just think that's a disaster fight.

1049
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 7: Chris, that's a lot too unpacked.

1050
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 6: Well yeah, no, go ahead, Kenny, what are you gonna say?

1051
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 4: No?

1052
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 8: Sorry? Go ahead, John, go ahead, John No.

1053
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 7: I was just fascinated to get Chris Wyman's take on

1054
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 7: all of that, because as certainly a lot of people

1055
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 7: don't think a Gey Chee till Potia fight is particularly competitive.

1056
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 7: What do you make of what race? Said Chris, Yeah, I.

1057
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: Mean on that point, I gotta go with long Ago.

1058
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: It's gonna be that's gonna be a tough fight. But

1059
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: Gechie does have the power that could change change the

1060
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: fight at any time, and technicality really could go out

1061
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: the window because there's no question that Ilia is just

1062
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: on a whole different level when it comes to just

1063
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: as as far as being a technical fighter, having balance

1064
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: on his feet. As a boxer, he's got great, great

1065
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: take down the fence, very good jiu jitsu. Gaichie doesn't

1066
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: use offensive wrestling, so you would think he'd be on

1067
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 1: his feet with him, and you know, Gaichie's not gonna

1068
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: be able to pick him apart like he did against

1069
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: Tony Ferguson, where we've probably seen the most like strategic

1070
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 1: version and best version technical of Gaichee.

1071
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 5: So it would be a tough it would be a

1072
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 5: really tough fight for him.

1073
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 2: I agree with that, but I.

1074
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: Will say, like as crazy as I think it, Patty

1075
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: Pimble's just so awkward.

1076
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 5: So as far as the technical.

1077
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: Aspect of what we just watched, it wasn't great looking

1078
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: because Paddy Piblet is awkward and I am confused with

1079
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: his game plan. Man, he's definitely the better man on

1080
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: the ground. Why are we not trying to wrestle? Why

1081
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: are we not doing to clinch? Why are we literally

1082
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 1: trying to stand with Gaichee for five rounds? Was that

1083
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: was very confusing to me. Even when me, Bisbee and

1084
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: Dominic did the breakdown, you know, it was you know,

1085
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: you're going to try to catch some late kicks, try

1086
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 1: to get take down. You're trying to get Gatechee cornered

1087
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: on the cage or even if Geegee gets you cornered

1088
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: on cage, because that's more likely because you're using your

1089
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: long weapons. We're blocking, We're trying to come to you know,

1090
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: tie clinch, then turn it into a wrestling clinch and

1091
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: try to bring it to the floor.

1092
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 5: At some point we didn't see any of that. He

1093
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 5: was disengaging out of clinching, which I.

1094
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: Thought was confusing and I and the one thing that

1095
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: I was I was super impressed with Geatechee with was

1096
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: that in all of his fights, he's lay kicking immediately,

1097
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: he's crushing people's legs. But we've seen him get taken

1098
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: down twice in the first round against Zeve in his

1099
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: last fight. Because I was able to catch the leg

1100
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: kick and bring him down and Patty was able to

1101
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: do that, that could be game over. And in this fight,

1102
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: he didn't throw any light kicks at all. He just

1103
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: put his face right into his chest and brought into

1104
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: you know, into real into the pocket where he was

1105
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: going to be most dangerous. Got through all the long

1106
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: weapons of Patty Pinlet really well and was smart enough

1107
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: not to throw those light kicks until maybe the third

1108
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: or fourth round he started finding the lake kicks. The

1109
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: one time that we saw Patty actually having some success

1110
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: when he was actually able to land some jabs once

1111
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 1: he once he got his jab going in that third

1112
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: round and he kept Gatechie on the outside. He looked great,

1113
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: he was letting his own leg kicks, but before you

1114
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: know what, he kind of he abandoned that game plan

1115
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: and just would let Gatechie get closed and then he

1116
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: would just be slugging it out with him. And the

1117
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 1: majority of the time it was Geatechie who was gonna

1118
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: win those exchanges.

1119
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, right right.

1120
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 8: What do you think of what do you think that

1121
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 8: Patty's performed it?

1122
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 3: Because you know, Obviously he didn't have the best game plan,

1123
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 3: but I definitely feel like he showed a lot of

1124
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 3: potential that perhaps he can get back there.

1125
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,479
Speaker 6: So what are your thoughts on that look? But first off,

1126
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 6: I'm actually a fan of Patty Pimlets. After the fight,

1127
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 6: I mean, he definitely went in like a man, took

1128
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 6: took that fight, took everything that Gachie had to offer.

1129
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 6: You thought he was out a bunch of times, he

1130
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 6: kept coming back. So I think from a technicality standpoint,

1131
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 6: I think gay Chie fought way too emotional, like you

1132
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 6: could tell Trevor was trying to get him through. Just

1133
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 6: Trevor was one million percent right in this. He could

1134
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 6: have made that fight look easy, but his emotions got

1135
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 6: the better of him. He was swinging for the defences,

1136
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 6: he was off balanced when he was punching, And as

1137
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 6: far as Pimlet, it looked like they both fought like

1138
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 6: like Gachie fought like I got to get rid of

1139
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 6: this guy because I should be able to get rid

1140
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 6: of this guy, and he fought like a nut and

1141
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 6: Pimlet fought to prove you know I could I could

1142
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 6: take a beat and too like instead of fighting mort

1143
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 6: I think he fought, you know, more with his guts,

1144
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 6: and I think he gained a lot of fans from that.

1145
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 6: But it wasn't technically the best thing he could have did.

1146
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 6: But yeah, we got to see a guy that you know,

1147
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 6: if you're fighting Pimblet now moving forward, he's not going anywhere.

1148
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 6: He's gonna be there, so you're gonna have to conserve

1149
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 6: your energy. You're gonna have to you know, pick your

1150
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 6: shots a little better because he took a nass beating

1151
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 6: and he didn't. I don't think he was even close

1152
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 6: to going out at any time, and that's that's crazy

1153
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 6: the amount of punishment he took. So big fan of

1154
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 6: Pimblets for that, But I wouldn't want to see him

1155
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 6: do that four or five times in a row because

1156
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 6: that's not gonna work out good for him.

1157
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: But if I'm if I'm Pimblet or Pimblets coaches, he's

1158
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: in the gym six days a week. Even though he

1159
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: gets you know, he ends up eating up and he

1160
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: gets he gets chubby and everything, but he stays in

1161
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: the gym, which is super important.

1162
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 5: He needs to be.

1163
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: He needs to be working on wrestling. We know how

1164
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: tough he is now, we know he's got to ba.

1165
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: We know he could even stand and hurt a guy

1166
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: like Gain should because he did hurt Gates you a

1167
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: few times in the fight, so we know what he's

1168
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: capable on the feet.

1169
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 5: But we also know that the only.

1170
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: Way he's beating an Ilia Puria or or beating a

1171
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: what's his name armand these guys who are really on

1172
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: top of the division, he needs to he needs to

1173
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: be able to wrestle these guys, and he needs to be.

1174
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 5: Able to bring them to where he's most dangerous, which is.

1175
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 2: On the ground.

1176
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 7: Yep, no, that's a very So yeah, it's really going

1177
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 7: to be interesting if Sarakian really ends up sitting for

1178
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 7: a year. Hey, Chris, before we let you go, are

1179
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 7: you are you back? By the way, are you back home?

1180
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 5: I'm back.

1181
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: I cannot believe that I was one of the only

1182
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: flats that got back that wasn't canceled at a six

1183
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: am flight, so left the hotel like four a m

1184
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 1: or something, And yeah, they never canceled it. At one

1185
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: point during the flight they said we were going to

1186
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: have to fly and get fuel up and maybe Oklahoma

1187
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: or something takes some time on the ground and then

1188
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 1: try to go north around the storm to come.

1189
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 5: Back to Charlotte.

1190
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: Uh, and then they ended up just they ended up

1191
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: just pushing through. And I will say, I'm not I'm

1192
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: not like that's I don't get that scared. But on

1193
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: a plane, you know, you hit some turbulence and stuff,

1194
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: it's not that bad. But when we started getting close

1195
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: to Charlotte and the whole you're just in nothing but white.

1196
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: Open up the window shade and you see nothing. There's

1197
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: no visibility at all. And the turbulence was one of

1198
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: the worst turbulence experiences I've ever had. And when we landed,

1199
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: it felt like we crashed. It was not in a

1200
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: soft landing.

1201
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 6: It was it was it was.

1202
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 5: It was actually pretty crazy.

1203
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 10: It was.

1204
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: It was a little scary. I'm surprised that they let

1205
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:40,760
Speaker 1: us come back into Charlotte.

1206
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 7: Like, dude, I mean, I it's very gracious of you

1207
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 7: to honor this commitment and surprise Ray on this first

1208
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 7: ray long minute here with all the smoke. But Bro,

1209
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 7: I thought you were going to still be in Las Vegas.

1210
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 7: So I'm glad you're home safely. And I will say, yeah,

1211
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 7: I mean, you're crushing on TV, and it's it's hard

1212
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 7: to know sort of like how much should you let

1213
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 7: the comedy go when you're a funny guy like yourself, right,

1214
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 7: because sometimes in your own head it's like, dude, I

1215
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 7: got a joke for fucking everything?

1216
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 10: You know?

1217
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, so but keep killing it, bro, thank you for

1218
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 7: crashing the ray long a minute.

1219
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 5: And uh, I appreciate the nice words of the TV work.

1220
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: But I will say, being up there with guys like

1221
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 1: Michael Bisbee and Domina Cruz, I've realized I got a

1222
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: lot of work to do.

1223
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 5: These guys are definitely on a different level than me.

1224
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 5: I have to I have to step up my game.

1225
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 7: I will go.

1226
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 8: Just like anything else.

1227
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 6: Dude, I could already tell by the way he was

1228
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 6: talking and breaking down the fight that he's already growing

1229
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 6: in that position. You know what I mean. You're actually

1230
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 6: speaking a little differently with that.

1231
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 10: You know.

1232
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you man, I'm retiring now now. I'm very

1233
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: intelligent when I speak.

1234
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 6: Now, you know what is Look when he was fighting,

1235
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 6: so we look at a fight and be off for

1236
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 6: like thirty seconds, He'd go, I could beat that guy.

1237
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 6: I just turned the fight off. That was it. We

1238
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 6: wait to break now. We wouldn't even break it down now, Yeah,

1239
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 6: that's not me.

1240
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: That's Longo, Longo Longo. Tell him, hey, can you check

1241
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: out the guy I'm fighting? You know what you do,

1242
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: you will go on their shirt dog record. That would

1243
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: be his, that would be his scouting. He look at

1244
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: the wins and loss.

1245
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 5: The guy's beating nobody, the guys.

1246
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: You're crushing the guy. I'm like, did you watch any tape?

1247
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't need to watch it.

1248
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 5: You're good.

1249
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: The guy lost to Jay Silva. You have absolutely no

1250
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: chance of losing. If you lose this fight, we got

1251
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: bigger problems.

1252
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 6: He's though, that's that's going back to before. Yeah, I

1253
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 6: would definitely always go to I always go to tapology

1254
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 6: and let me just see. You know, when you get

1255
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 6: a guy that's nine to no and he's never forought

1256
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 6: the guy with a winning record, that means nothing. But

1257
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, you gotta really, you know, do

1258
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 6: a little research.

1259
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 5: That's what you do.

1260
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: You look at you look at they beat, and then

1261
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: you look at their record, and then if their record sucked,

1262
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: you're like, all right, I see what this guy's doing.

1263
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: He might be undefeated or whatever, but he hasn't fought

1264
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: the guys like you thought.

1265
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 6: You know, that's he said. This is what I'm talking about,

1266
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 6: This is what be good.

1267
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 5: But now but now, long ago, the new, the new,

1268
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 5: long ago.

1269
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: You know, he's watching tape for guys and he's scouting,

1270
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: he's taking notes, he's you know, he's a different guy.

1271
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 6: He used to look at a guy and say I

1272
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 6: could beat him. I sweet guy turned the TV. That's

1273
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 6: all I needed to know. He was when he was

1274
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 6: on a roll and he was confident. Nobody was touching him.

1275
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 6: I saw what I had to see. Yeah, I mean,

1276
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 6: I sweet to god good.

1277
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 8: Ray either didn't care about your Chris, or he was

1278
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 8: that confident in you. I don't know which one.

1279
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 5: Or or he's just or he's just lazy, and that's.

1280
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 6: Confident. I'm gonna go with confident lazy.

1281
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: The fact that you guys have him up at eleven

1282
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning is unbelievable.

1283
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 5: I could never get to the gym before one o'clock.

1284
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 8: That's love, that's love.

1285
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: One o'clock would be the earliest, and I'm up with

1286
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: the kids six am. I'm like, I would love to

1287
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: get a morning workout it long ago. Had he was,

1288
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: he would never be do it well.

1289
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 7: And I know you got to go, Chris, but like

1290
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 7: Heaven forbid, we move him back to noon eastern or

1291
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 7: twelve thirty. He gets off a lot of sorts and

1292
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 7: sometimes doesn't show up, but yeah, sometimes he shows up.

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00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 7: His hair is uh a little question all over the place.

1294
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 6: And he.

1295
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 7: Showed up with a fucking cigar in his mouth today.

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00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 5: That's awesome.

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00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: He doesn't and he doesn't have me on Long Island

1298
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: anymore to make sure his nose hairs aren't hanging down

1299
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: below his lips.

1300
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 5: He's really he's got to double check the mirror.

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00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 7: Wow, tell you, hey, Chris.

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00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 6: I feel like I'm getting the ship beat out of

1303
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 6: me right now.

1304
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 5: But it's impressive. You're able to take it.

1305
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 6: You're doing And he dragged aik with him. He bragged,

1306
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 6: this is what he does. He trust me sooner related

1307
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 6: to be him and Bising teaming up on that pool kid.

1308
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 5: It was closed, but I know it was his night.

1309
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 5: It was dollars, was his whole fame night. We couldn't

1310
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 5: do it to him wanting me a team up.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, let me make a prediction. It's only a matter

1312
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 6: of time.

1313
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, prob he Chris the way and show for UFC

1314
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 7: three twenty five. This weekend, I'm doing the Wayne.

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00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: Show and the list work again. So I'm doing I'm

1316
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: on the Desk and the Way In Show. So I

1317
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: go back to Vegas. I'm supposed to go Wednesday night,

1318
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: but my son has his state championship for middle school

1319
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: wrestling on Wednesday. Now, yes, Zach Candido, let me come

1320
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: in Thursday morning because it's we're gonna be in Vegas

1321
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: doing the Desk and Thursday night is going to be

1322
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: the Wayans where we do the Way and Show, but

1323
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: we're doing it from Vegas because I guess they have

1324
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: like a forty something hour recovery time from Wiganes to

1325
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: their actual fight.

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01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 7: I guess we have a dark day on our production

1327
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 7: schedule Saturday. So but yes, that Way And Show will

1328
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 7: originate from Las Vegas and it will be Thursday night.

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01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 6: Hey, judge, what the most impressive part about him was

1330
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,439
Speaker 6: what was when Smotherman, that pool kid passed out after

1331
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 6: the Way and what I've been legitimately sound like he

1332
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 6: was concerned. I was, so I was blown away by that.

1333
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 6: He's he's really growing. As a commentay, the concern was

1334
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 6: almost genuine.

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01:00:58,600 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 11: Did you see?

1336
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 1: Hey, did you guys see I know I was like,

1337
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 1: I've been there longo's been there where I was. You know,

1338
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: I'm like passing out every two seconds, So I get it.

1339
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: It just never had That's the first time we've ever

1340
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: seen that happen on stage.

1341
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 5: That was awful, and you know, and I hope the

1342
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 5: kid's good. But did you see did you guys see Bisbee?

1343
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: He was working for TNT right next to the way

1344
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 1: in stage and he goes, I don't feel bad for

1345
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: these guys.

1346
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 5: And as he goes up, you know, this is the

1347
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 5: one job you have to be professional.

1348
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: And as soon as that kid's walking up the stage

1349
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: and he goes, I don't feel bad for these guys

1350
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 1: right behind him, they do it just face playing.

1351
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 8: Timing is everything.

1352
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, timing was insane.

1353
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 12: That was yeah.

1354
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, and the kid actually didn't, at least if you

1355
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 7: take him at his word, cut that much weight. But yeah,

1356
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 7: he changed levels. Right before he went up to the stage.

1357
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 7: He sat down on the bottom stair was sort of

1358
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 7: curled up in a ball, and then rose up to

1359
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 7: go way in and uh yeah, writing was kind of

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Speaker 7: on the wall. Chris Wibman, You've been gracious with your time.

1361
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 7: Have a great rest of your Monday. Thank you, sir,

1362
01:01:58,240 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 7: Thank you.

1363
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 5: I appreciate it. Thanks for having me. I'm happy to

1364
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 5: bust in and ruin them.

1365
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 6: Very long minute, and hey, congrats on everything really really

1366
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 6: all right.

1367
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 5: I'll tell you guys bye bye.

1368
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,919
Speaker 7: There he is the All American Chris Wibman, former UFC

1369
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 7: Midaway Champion, true phenom. Right when you hear Ray Longo

1370
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 7: and Matt Sarah and Anthony lyonheart Smith talk about Wyman's

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01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 7: ability to look at a move or something in miss

1372
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 7: Mixed Martial Arts and incorporated into his game. Uh, I

1373
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 7: know you guys have never seen anybody like him, and

1374
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 7: one day his name will be called for the UFC

1375
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 7: Hall of Fame. Hey, Ray, yes, sir, oh, we got

1376
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 7: some things planned for you today, and again thanks everybody

1377
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 7: being with us live. We still got another power hour

1378
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 7: here to go Anakim Florian podcast powered by All the

1379
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 7: Smoke Fight. So I mean we could touch out some

1380
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 7: other things at UFC three twenty four. I do have

1381
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 7: some would you rather questions for you today? And I

1382
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 7: know you don't like them, but Ray, I wrote them today.

1383
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 7: I didn't get them on the internet. I didn't get

1384
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 7: them on the web. I actually wrote them, so I

1385
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 7: do have one other thing I want to ask you

1386
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 7: about from UFC three twenty four if I could. Yeah, So,

1387
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 7: there was a time in my life where I went

1388
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 7: ten full years without crying. Then I had kids. Now

1389
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 7: I cry every day. I can't watch movies. Actually, the

1390
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 7: Patriots won the AFC Championship yesterday and because it means

1391
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 7: something to my son, now, I actually cried yesterday because

1392
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 7: of that. So I can relate to Jean Lord Silva

1393
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 7: crying every other fucking minute, right, I mean I can't

1394
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 7: relate to him French kissing the belt before he actually

1395
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 7: fights for the world title. I would steer clear of that.

1396
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 7: But he went out and beat Arnold Allen on points

1397
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 7: in a very tough fight. You know, He's this little

1398
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 7: explosive athlete that I think has a real chance to

1399
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 7: wreak havoc in this division. I would I would love

1400
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 7: to see him fight the Volkanovski's of the world. I

1401
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 7: love Arnold Allen and Farasa Hobby, and they did everything

1402
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 7: they could to beat John Lord Silva and they couldn't

1403
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 7: do it. Ray, I just want to get your thoughts

1404
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 7: on this Brazilian little spark plug, Jean Lord Silva.

1405
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I'm super high on him and Rufie.

1406
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 6: I know they both suffered their first losses. But to

1407
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 6: come back and fight a guy like Arnold Dialand who's

1408
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 6: technically sound, and he's gonna you know, he's not going anywhere.

1409
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 6: He's fought the He's fought a lot of good guys.

1410
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 6: I thought it was a great performance by him and

1411
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 6: a well needed victory to get him to the next level.

1412
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 6: So I think I even in a rematch with Lopez,

1413
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 6: I think I think I think he'd do really well

1414
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 6: in that rematch. So I think, you know, if things

1415
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 6: kind of go like you know, Diego beats Volkanowski, I

1416
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 6: could see that as a title fight, a rematch, So

1417
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 6: I think he's got big things ahead of him. Seems

1418
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 6: like a little kookie, very emotional. I don't think that's

1419
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 6: what we're doing. I'm trying when I see somebody getting

1420
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 6: hurt or I can't help this guy is I don't

1421
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 6: know what he's trying. For the sake, I don't know

1422
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 6: what he's doing, but it's working for him. And I

1423
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 6: think he's technically sound, looks like he hits like a

1424
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 6: freight train. I think he's just going to keep getting better.

1425
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 7: And better at this kid, Kenny. The batting line is

1426
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 7: but one lens through which to look at these fights. Right,

1427
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 7: Diego Lopez is plus one thirty six this weekend. Alason

1428
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 7: Volkanovski is minus one sixty two. That would be a

1429
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 7: huge result for John Silva. But what do you make

1430
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 7: of the Lord and how far he could take this?

1431
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 4: Then?

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01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 8: I think is skill wise, I think potential. His potential's phenomenal.

1433
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 3: I think he is extremely talented, very athletic, obviously, and

1434
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 3: I think he's a much better grappler than his partner

1435
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 3: Rufie there. My concern is with exactly what you guys

1436
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 3: are talking about, which is the emotions.

1437
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 8: How do you change.

1438
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 3: Yourself emotionally over the course of let's say three months

1439
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 3: for your next fight in this game, I think to

1440
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 3: be stoic and to be unemotional, I think is a

1441
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 3: superpower in a lot of ways, just because of the

1442
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 3: ups and downs that happen for a training can't let

1443
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 3: alone what happens during a fight, and that would be

1444
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 3: a concern for me is.

1445
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 8: How he moves forward and how he can control.

1446
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 3: His emotions, you know, And I think a lot of

1447
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 3: way his emotions can fuel you to fuel you as well.

1448
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 3: But my concern is, you know, at the championship level,

1449
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 3: your emotions are a liability in a lot of ways,

1450
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 3: and that would be my concern moving forward. But as

1451
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 3: far as his athleticism, his technique, yeah, he's a freak.

1452
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 3: He is so fun to watch.

1453
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, and Kenya, his willingness. You could tell this guy

1454
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 6: loves to fight like he's going to be there for

1455
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 6: a while, winn to lose. He's going to be a

1456
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 6: problem for the next couple of years either direction. I

1457
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 6: think he's going to be that guy. So I think,

1458
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 6: you know, you know, even in the Diego fight, he

1459
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 6: got caught. Anybody could have got caught like that, but

1460
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 6: his emotions got him caught because he was so exactly

1461
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, That's where he didn't He

1462
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 6: wasn't thinking. He kind of just was chasing the guy right,

1463
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 6: nothing to come back, and he got he paid for

1464
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 6: and I think he'll I think you will make that correction.

1465
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 6: I think you're right during yeah.

1466
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, during a fight.

1467
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 3: The problem solving, right, yeah, is a huge game totally,

1468
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 3: And if you're emotional about it, and if you need

1469
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 3: to make certain decisions and you're overly emotional, you may

1470
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 3: not be making the right decisions. So I think if

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01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 3: he can change that moving forward, yeah, I think he

1472
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 3: can be a champion. But that's big, that's a big change.

1473
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 6: And I got to tell you, man, I think you

1474
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 6: saw it with Gaichee. Man, he just he was held

1475
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 6: bent on knocking this guy out, just headhunting, and he

1476
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 6: was like a lunatic like the days of when he

1477
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 6: started picking apart Ferguson. There wasn't a there wasn't a

1478
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 6: remnants of that in this fight, you know what I mean.

1479
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 6: And you could see, like again, I think Trevit did

1480
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 6: a fucking great job at trying to bring him back

1481
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 6: to the center a little bit. But he, Uh, listen,

1482
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 6: that's what you got to love about Gaigie. He's fucking

1483
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 6: he's He's a Manhattan man, so h listen, that's what

1484
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 6: people pay for. I think he understands that too. But

1485
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 6: you know, I think he's starting to sacrifice his body

1486
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 6: a little too much. I mean, he was just a

1487
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 6: way he was dipping his head and you know, just

1488
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 6: he was aut of I think he was out of control.

1489
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 6: But you know, he got the job done and everybody

1490
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 6: had a great time. It was an excited listen. It

1491
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 6: was an exciting fight, but it took it took those

1492
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 6: two personalities to make that a really exciting fight.

1493
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 7: I think all UFC Flyway contender alex Press coming up

1494
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 7: in about five minutes, but we got three more minutes

1495
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 7: here with Ray Longo. Some would you rather's on the

1496
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 7: way out? So Ray Longo gets a middle seat in

1497
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 7: economy class right, otherwise known as the coach and coach right?

1498
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 7: Would you rather crying babies or snoring old men on

1499
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 7: either side? Do you want the snoring old man or

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01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 7: the crying babies?

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01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 6: I ain't sitting in that middle seat. I don't care

1502
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 6: who's on either side. Okay, I'm getting the hell up,

1503
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 6: but uh, put me in a put me in a

1504
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 6: nile seat. I don't care who's next time.

1505
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 7: I mean, could you just answer the fucking question. It's

1506
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 7: our first show with all the smoke. U. I just

1507
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 7: don't want the middle seat.

1508
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 8: That's a tough one.

1509
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 6: I'm good. I'll go with crying babies.

1510
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 7: Okay, Ray? Would you rather find one thousand dollars on

1511
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 7: the ground but hurt your back bending down to pick

1512
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 7: it up, or just not find the money at all?

1513
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 6: Not find the money at all me too.

1514
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 7: See he get to a certain age, and I know

1515
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 7: is not there yet, but I'm forty sad. The answer

1516
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 7: if I can avoid injury at all costs. That's what

1517
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 7: we're trying to do.

1518
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 6: You know, John, if you told me, I'll give you

1519
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 6: two thousand dollars right now, but your back's gonna hurt

1520
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 6: for the next week. Every day, I Kenny and you

1521
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 6: Kenny will appreciate this. But every day I get up

1522
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 6: and my back's not killing me. Man, that is a

1523
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 6: great day.

1524
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 8: Years it's horrible.

1525
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, Kenny wouldn't take fifty grand I don't think he

1526
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 7: just wants to paint free back all right? Ray, Would

1527
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 7: you rather take one hot yoga class for sixty minutes

1528
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 7: in a speedo or sing Whitney Houston's I Will Always

1529
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 7: Love You three times in one night at a karaoke bar.

1530
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 6: Whatever the song is, three time, I sing it one

1531
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:16,759
Speaker 6: hundred times.

1532
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 7: See, yeah, I mean I would do the hot I

1533
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 7: mean I'm doing hot yoga these days. I would do

1534
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 7: the hot yoga in a speedo. Maybe get a wax first, Ray,

1535
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 7: Like the third time you go up to the bar

1536
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 7: to sing Whitney Houston's I Will always love you? Right

1537
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 7: and uh right, Like the third time you go up there,

1538
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 7: people be like, oh this fucking guy singing that song again? Sorry?

1539
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 6: All right?

1540
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 7: Would you rather be a better coach?

1541
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:47,680
Speaker 6: Get it?

1542
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 13: Now?

1543
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 7: You know they're doing it on Instagram? Like walking up

1544
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 7: to DC? Would you do you wish you were a

1545
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 7: better athlete? Get it?

1546
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 6: No? Hey?

1547
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 7: Would you rather shave your head or get your whole

1548
01:10:58,160 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 7: chest and stomach.

1549
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 6: Wax Take me chest and stomach waxed?

1550
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 7: All right? And then finally, would you rather spend ten

1551
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 7: minutes with Aljamaine Sterling on your back? Or would you

1552
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 7: rather spend ten minutes with Morob Dwallish Willie inside your guard?

1553
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 6: I'll take Morob inside my god, than al Jael on

1554
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 6: my back.

1555
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 7: You see al jail choke that Toyo tires dummy, that's

1556
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 7: the greatest commercial like that.

1557
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't see it. I heard about it though,

1558
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 6: But Aljoel on your back is a problem. He's got

1559
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 6: no problem putting me to sleep, guaranteed. But I'll tell

1560
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 6: you one thing, John, I will say this, These are

1561
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 6: way better questions than the previous. Well I wrote these,

1562
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 6: you could see nor thought put into them. You know,

1563
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 6: I didn't know you were go into chat GBT to

1564
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 6: get the other, would you.

1565
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 7: I've never even downloaded that application. I would just go

1566
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 7: to like Men's Health or something. Put that on me. Hey,

1567
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 7: we gotta let you go. We love you. You're still

1568
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 7: the star of the show. Thanks for your time. Have

1569
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 7: a great day and a better evening, and uh we

1570
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 7: will talk to you next Monday after Volkanovski Lopez ak too.

1571
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 6: Let's do it, man, it was great seeing you.

1572
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 9: Guys.

1573
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 6: Both look fantastic. Kenny smiling like a banded look at this, guys.

1574
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 8: Great to see you, man, man.

1575
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 6: Thank it easy. Guys, that's call for you.

1576
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:16,759
Speaker 7: You're the best. Very long ago minute every Monday dating

1577
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,560
Speaker 7: to April of twenty fifteen here on the Anak and

1578
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 7: Floridan podcast. Sorry, a lot of big winners at UFC

1579
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 7: three two four over the weekend, and really good to

1580
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 7: see the former world title challenger Alex Perez get a

1581
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 7: huge knockout of Charles Johnson and Alice now joins us

1582
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 7: live from California. It's a handsome man too. Put him

1583
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 7: right like that. Hey, congrats on a big win man.

1584
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 7: You know, for those who have been tracking you dating

1585
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 7: to your title fight in twenty twenty and some of

1586
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 7: the knee injuries and everything else. It felt really good

1587
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 7: to see you sort of put it on CJ like that.

1588
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 7: So congratulations, man, how's it feel to be out the

1589
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 7: other side?

1590
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 8: Thank you?

1591
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 5: It feels good.

1592
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 12: It's been a while, you know, the last one was

1593
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 12: Nikolau uh, you know, and then you know, I sue

1594
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 12: I was up, know, get be in that fight, and

1595
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 12: then you know, just to be on the other side

1596
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 12: feels amazing. A lot of hard work put into it,

1597
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,600
Speaker 12: a lot of dedication from just not me, but my

1598
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 12: whole family team. You know, why if everybody putting out

1599
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 12: with me during these miserable months of dieting and stuff

1600
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 12: and holidays.

1601
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 13: So yeah, you know, it's a big, big way for everybody.

1602
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 7: So I guess since you brought up the diet, will

1603
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 7: address the weight miss. You know, it appears as though

1604
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 7: maybe you didn't get the twenty five thousand dollars finished

1605
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 7: bonus because you didn't make weight, and obviously that made

1606
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:36,560
Speaker 7: you bonus ineligible. But what went into that? And you

1607
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 7: know what are I guess will you do to make

1608
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 7: sure that in three or four months that that doesn't

1609
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 7: rear its uglyhead again.

1610
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 12: Honestly, just don't take a fight so quick. You know,

1611
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,719
Speaker 12: I went, I fought in Doha at the end of November.

1612
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 12: I come back, you know, me and my wife, we

1613
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 12: end up going to Italy for the week, you know,

1614
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 12: come back and like, hey, you know I had asked

1615
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 12: for a fight like February and February beginning of March

1616
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 12: to come back with you know, hr Zaun and at

1617
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:03,720
Speaker 12: the beginning of the year, and I'm like, biggers can't

1618
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 12: be choosers.

1619
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 13: You know, I was down this that was my last

1620
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 13: five on my contract.

1621
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 6: My weight was good.

1622
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 13: I actually came in a fight week around the.

1623
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 12: Same weight, you know, maybe zero point three heavier than

1624
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 12: I was when I was Atlanta and Doha. I think

1625
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 12: just back to back camps. I think my body just

1626
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 12: started fighting it. I ended up breaking out with shingles

1627
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 12: two weeks ago, so.

1628
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 13: I shingles, shingles all over my neck and stuff. They

1629
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 13: trained for about two weeks, two and a half weeks.

1630
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 12: Uh, you know, just I think just the body was

1631
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 12: so stressed out from trying to make weight back to back.

1632
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 13: You know, no excuses. I was, I'm freshman. Obviously I

1633
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 13: took the fight. You know, I should have waited. The

1634
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 13: same thing happened when I fought Matt Schanale.

1635
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 12: We're supposed to find in December, and then uh, something

1636
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 12: happened at the scout with him where he couldn't pass

1637
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 12: his medicals and then I ended up right back on

1638
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 12: the wagon real quick and ended up missing weight. So

1639
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 12: I should have learned from that. You know, my ego

1640
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 12: took uh you know, it took me over and I

1641
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 12: was like, yeah, can make way.

1642
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 13: I can make the weight. I came in a fight

1643
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 13: week and.

1644
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 12: Uh, you know, it got down to the point where

1645
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 12: we're down and I think we're like two three over.

1646
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 13: In the morning, I was like, okay, we can do this.

1647
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,640
Speaker 12: You know, my wife and my nephew were actually you know,

1648
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:16,600
Speaker 12: I have my nutritions there, my coach calling, and my

1649
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 12: wife and my nutrition and my nephew were getting the

1650
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 12: sauna with me.

1651
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 13: And it took me about forty five minutes to break.

1652
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 12: A sweat, and then we get in the hot tub,

1653
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 12: you know, took another like you know, we're in there

1654
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 12: for another twenty thirty minutes.

1655
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 13: Check my way. I ended up losing zero point four.

1656
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 12: I was like, and you know, when he had three hours,

1657
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 12: he's like, there's no way I'm gonna be able to

1658
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 12: lose these three pounds.

1659
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 4: You know.

1660
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:37,799
Speaker 13: I actually ran into.

1661
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 12: Charles in the in the locker room at the piano like, hey, brother,

1662
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 12: like I'm I'm I'm gonna keep trying, but I don't

1663
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 12: think we'll be able to make the weight.

1664
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:46,599
Speaker 13: You know, understand if you don't want to take the fight,

1665
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 13: you know. But he was, he was cool about it.

1666
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 12: I've known Charles for a long time, and I was like,

1667
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 12: let's I would never do this on purpose, you know,

1668
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 12: I'm trying.

1669
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 10: I was.

1670
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 12: I mean, he can see that I was hurting. I

1671
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 12: think everybody see how I was hurting. And yeah, like

1672
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 12: I said, just don't take that fight. Don't take a.

1673
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 13: Quick turn around like dniy marmin as young as I

1674
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 13: used to be and definitely can't move the weight like

1675
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 13: I used to. And uh yeah, you know, just stay

1676
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 13: on top of that.

1677
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 7: Alex Press with us live on the Antaki Florian Podcast. So,

1678
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 7: Charles Johnson's really good, and I think you know that obviously.

1679
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 7: You mentioned that you have known him for a long time.

1680
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 7: I know, as a journalist, I'm not supposed to ask

1681
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 7: yes or no questions, But did you expect it to

1682
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 7: be that easy. I'd imagine you were expecting maybe a tougher,

1683
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 7: longer fighter, not necessarily.

1684
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 12: H Yeah, you know, when we trained together, so Charles

1685
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 12: came down to Timoyama, we used to have a fighter house.

1686
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:37,640
Speaker 12: He stilled with us about two or three weeks, and

1687
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 12: he was one of my main training partners, and we

1688
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 12: trained together and everything, and he was he was great everywhere.

1689
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,599
Speaker 13: He's a stand up guy, you know, he was good everywhere.

1690
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 12: Actually learned a lot from him, and then we would

1691
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 12: kind of interact a little bit when we see each other, you.

1692
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 13: Know, train together, and yeah, you know, like I said,

1693
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 13: I just uh, I threw that me.

1694
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 12: And Colin were working that combination in the back, that

1695
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 12: kick punch comba. I just added the left hook, you know,

1696
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 12: I just added the left took. I know it's because

1697
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 12: I'm Mexican or what, but I still that left hook

1698
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 12: in there, and I ended up catching him and then

1699
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 12: kind of just took it from there. But yeah, I

1700
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 12: was expecting to obviously be longer. You know, I knew

1701
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 12: Charles is hard to get out.

1702
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 13: He's never been finished, so I knew how to stay

1703
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 13: composed and stuff.

1704
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 12: But yeah, like I was expecting obviously a war with Charles,

1705
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 12: because guy's in great shape, brings it and you see

1706
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 12: when he's down in fights, that's when he brings. Actually

1707
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 12: the rest comes out of him. Like he's been down

1708
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 12: a two rounds and the third round he's on and

1709
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 12: he's put people away.

1710
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was an amazing win.

1711
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 10: Man.

1712
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 3: Charles Johnson is a tremendous fighter, very very dangerous everywhere.

1713
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 3: You know, had that linked advantage. So do you think

1714
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 3: it helped you heading into that fight? You know, knowing

1715
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 3: him a little bit, a little bit because sometimes training

1716
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:51,600
Speaker 3: with someone you know it can hurt you in some

1717
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:53,640
Speaker 3: ways because now you know how really good he is,

1718
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 3: or you know, maybe question certain things that happened in training.

1719
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 8: Did that help you or hurt you? You think heading

1720
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:00,679
Speaker 8: into that, I think.

1721
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 9: I don't know.

1722
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 12: I don't know if I really can't answer that, because

1723
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 12: you see, I'm horrible in the gym. You know, I

1724
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 12: got guys beating me up all the time, gods that

1725
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 12: you never met. I still remember I sparred somewhere an

1726
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 12: amateur kids.

1727
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 13: I mean I was right in the UC.

1728
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 12: I think you're ready to fight for a title, and

1729
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 12: his amateur kid tapped me like four times, and I

1730
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 12: was like, oh my god, everybody's like I was like,

1731
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 12: how many fights that guy he's to no as an amateur, Like, oh,

1732
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 12: you know, so in the gym you really don't get

1733
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 12: You really don't get like the real you know.

1734
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 13: Like some people performing the lights are on. I'm just

1735
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 13: I guess once I'm in there, it kind of just

1736
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 13: zone out.

1737
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 12: But uh, you know, I mean, like I did take

1738
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 12: a lot from what we when we trained together, because

1739
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 12: like I said, he'll put some lickings on me. He

1740
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 12: would get on me, and I was like, man, I

1741
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 12: was like Jesus, guy's good, you know, but I can't

1742
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 12: really safe.

1743
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 13: It really hoped me or not kind of just zoned out.

1744
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it didn't look it.

1745
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:45,640
Speaker 6: Man.

1746
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 3: You went in there, confidence started off hot. That left

1747
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 3: hook was nasty, dude.

1748
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 7: So and you're stacking some wins now and you have

1749
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 7: a name and you fought for the world championship before.

1750
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 7: I guess the real challenge for you is just you know,

1751
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 7: being able to make the weight, to make it consistently,

1752
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 7: because it seems like with Joshua Van at least right now.

1753
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:06,719
Speaker 7: And I don't know how you feel, Alex about the division,

1754
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 7: but you know that maybe things might move here quickly.

1755
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 7: I don't know that they're gonna wait for Pantosia, you know.

1756
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 7: And what do you make I mean, we got another

1757
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 7: moreno main event coming up, Like what do you make

1758
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 7: of the division? Now that you have this huge result

1759
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 7: behind you?

1760
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 5: The division is.

1761
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:25,680
Speaker 13: Live, you know, like, yeah, vision, it's one of the

1762
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 13: best best divisions, you know.

1763
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 12: I mean we're we go you know, yes, we go

1764
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 12: fifteen minutes, but it's exciting usually top to top to

1765
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 12: bottom all those fifteen minutes.

1766
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 13: I think the divisions is.

1767
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 2: Great right now.

1768
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 12: Like I'm in the top heap, so I'm not really

1769
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 12: worried about what's gonna happen with Pantosian those guys yet.

1770
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 12: But I mean I got some you know, I know,

1771
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 12: the kind of book kind of like quarterly and stuff.

1772
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 12: So I know, I see a mirror and her Gucci

1773
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 12: your fighting, right, So I've got my eye on that one.

1774
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:54,719
Speaker 13: I know a couple of the guys are coming back.

1775
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 12: From injury and stuff like that, so just kind of

1776
01:19:58,160 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 12: put my name in the half for some of these

1777
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 12: fights coming up, and uh, just trying to stay ready,

1778
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 12: you know, get healed up, get get back. I'm gonna

1779
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 12: do all the testing at the UCP, I, you know,

1780
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 12: this upcoming week so that we can get everything dialed in.

1781
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:15,640
Speaker 12: And yeah, just I mean, honestly, I'm I mean my

1782
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 12: resume shows I'm I've fought the best of the best

1783
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:22,640
Speaker 12: guys uh in the division, you know, Davison, u Pantosia,

1784
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 12: Macaiah Benevedez. I'll sue like the guys I've lost to

1785
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 12: are the top guys in the division. So I mean,

1786
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 12: I'm not really worried about who they give me. I

1787
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 12: felt match of very wealth there anybody and everybody in

1788
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 12: the division. I can wrestle, I can grapple, I can

1789
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 12: keep it on the fee if I want to. So

1790
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 12: I'm just excited how the divisions getting all these eyes

1791
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 12: on them because it helps me in the long run,

1792
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 12: you know, uh, put more eyes on me and put

1793
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 12: more money in my pocket.

1794
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 7: Well, And as Joe Rogan was saying on the broadcast,

1795
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,640
Speaker 7: you're still a young man, right, things happened for you

1796
01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 7: pretty quickly, right, Like I bet when you think back

1797
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:59,560
Speaker 7: to the global pandemic and fighting for the title, and

1798
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 7: you think about all the adversity that you've experienced since

1799
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 7: and the highs and lows. You must feel like the

1800
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 7: maturation process has been has been pretty market in these

1801
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 7: six years.

1802
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 13: Yeah, man, it's been a crazy ride. Uh, you know,

1803
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 13: high ups and downs.

1804
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 12: I could have been like it's cliche to say the

1805
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 12: highs of highs and loaves of lows.

1806
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 5: You know, and uh, the sport will do.

1807
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 7: This to you.

1808
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 13: But you know, when it gives it to you, it

1809
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 13: gives it to you. Get and either end.

1810
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 12: But you know, I'm grateful for everything because without this

1811
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:30,560
Speaker 12: I wouldn't have what I have today. You know, I

1812
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 12: have my business, I have my two houses, I have

1813
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 12: my wife, I have my son, I have my family.

1814
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 12: Like this sport has given me everything in the world.

1815
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 10: Uh.

1816
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,679
Speaker 12: Some of my best friends, uh, like my management Iridian

1817
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,559
Speaker 12: Sports Agency. I've been with them since I've known them

1818
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 12: since I was fourteen years old.

1819
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 5: Man.

1820
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,639
Speaker 12: You know, yeah, so I coached I coached his son

1821
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 12: in wrestling when he was started. For now my nephew's

1822
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 12: coaching my son in wrestling now that he's four.

1823
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 13: So it's like full circle.

1824
01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 12: So MMA and the MMA and especially UC has given

1825
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 12: me everything in the world. And I said, I'm blessed

1826
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:04,679
Speaker 12: to be living my dream.

1827
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 7: And you still got a say your republic is that

1828
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:07,639
Speaker 7: the business?

1829
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 13: Yes, they got my republic, Orange County.

1830
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, you see, you knock a dude out so quickly.

1831
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 7: You don't give us play by play guys a chance

1832
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 7: to shout out your business. But hey, congrats on the win, man,

1833
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 7: And I know you're a professional and you're gonna nip

1834
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 7: those weight issues in the butt. And it's all in

1835
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 7: front of you now. I think you use the perfect

1836
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 7: adjective to describe the flyweight division. It is live and

1837
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 7: you factor prominently in it. So thank you for the

1838
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 7: time and enjoy the fruits of your labor. Brother. We'll

1839
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 7: probably see in a few months.

1840
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 13: Hey, thank you guys so much. Appreciate you guys having me.

1841
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 7: All right there, flyweight contender Alex Perez with us here

1842
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 7: on the Anakin Florian podcast. I had actually forgot about

1843
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 7: the weight miss and how it might factor into that

1844
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 7: finished bonus. But he's a really good dude, and uh,

1845
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 7: I just think it's challenging. One thing that I should

1846
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:56,679
Speaker 7: have said is hot yoga. I'm telling you, I feel

1847
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 7: like all these fighters should be doing hot yoga once

1848
01:22:59,240 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 7: a week.

1849
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 8: It's chasing.

1850
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 7: No, I don't do it in a speedo that's for sure.

1851
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 7: I wear more clothing than any man that's ever taken

1852
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 7: hot yoga before. I wonder if RJ. Clifford likes hot yoga.

1853
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 7: Now joining us a man who is going to be

1854
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:16,640
Speaker 7: a regular contributor to the Annakin Florent podcast here in

1855
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 7: twenty twenty six, depending on his schedule, of course. RJ

1856
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 7: Clifford birth name Randall, television name RJ. Mixed Martial Arts

1857
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 7: powerhouse analyst, former wrestler, former professional fighter, all around good egg.

1858
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 7: It's great to dressed up, guys.

1859
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 14: Congrat I didn't know what to do on my Tuesday

1860
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:38,639
Speaker 14: workouts because I didn't have the Anak and Florian podcast.

1861
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:43,599
Speaker 2: I got dressed up shirt like it's an award ceremony. Guys.

1862
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 14: I'm jo I'm not even I'm so blessed to be

1863
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 14: on this show. I'm just jacked as a consumer of

1864
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 14: the product that you guys are back.

1865
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 8: Well, look at this guy.

1866
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 7: You have so much to offer this space, and you

1867
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 7: do offer this space very much. A lot of people

1868
01:23:57,160 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 7: you probably recognizing RJ from the UFC the Way In

1869
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 7: show most Friday mornings in advance of our numbered events,

1870
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 7: but longtime radio personality got your las Vegas Raiders podcast going,

1871
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 7: of course, but oftentimes your schedule on the radio side

1872
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 7: was preventative in terms of us booking you on this program.

1873
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 7: That's why you haven't always been heard from. But it's

1874
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 7: great to see you. So where were you on Saturday night?

1875
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 7: I know you're pulling a lot of different directions. Where

1876
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 7: were you while the main card was going on?

1877
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 14: So I was back in the truck for the first

1878
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,640
Speaker 14: time in seven years. Because now that we've upped the

1879
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 14: desk game, I don't even guys noticed, but Michael bisbeing

1880
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:38,600
Speaker 14: dominant Cruz Chris Wyman at the desk. Normally guys that

1881
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 14: are calling fights are doing the desk. And then Kate

1882
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:44,879
Speaker 14: Scott is now a host for us and so obviously

1883
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 14: just a consummate professional, but maybe not quite the extensive

1884
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:51,679
Speaker 14: MMA experience yet. And so I'm there as a writer

1885
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 14: researcher to kind of help her out on top of

1886
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 14: stage managing duties and some other stuff.

1887
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 2: So they, yeah, they Swiss army knife me over there

1888
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 2: at UFC.

1889
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 7: Wow, in the truck for the first time in seven years.

1890
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 7: So where are you gonna be for UFC three twenty

1891
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 7: five this weekend? I'd imagine part of the Way and

1892
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 7: Show that is originating from Vegas.

1893
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:14,639
Speaker 14: Yes, so I got the call at hey, you're working

1894
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 14: on Sydney. Book your flight twenty minutes later.

1895
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 2: Just kidding.

1896
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 14: The desk is going to be at Apex. We need

1897
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 14: you there for the Way and Show and all the

1898
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:23,639
Speaker 14: desk stuff. So it's the vast, the very rare desk

1899
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 14: at Meta Apex. Fight somewhere else, so I will be

1900
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 14: at the the Meta r Jay.

1901
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 3: Obviously, Geechee looked pretty dominant against Patty Pimblet and if

1902
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 3: he faces Iliot Toldporia, how do you see that fight

1903
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 3: going down? Some guys are saying it's not even going

1904
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 3: to be competitive. Others saying, hey, listen, he's got power,

1905
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:46,559
Speaker 3: he can knock him out.

1906
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 8: What do you think?

1907
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 14: I think Iliot Tuporia versus any man under one seventy

1908
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,600
Speaker 14: it's gonna be a really, really, really awful night for

1909
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 14: that other person, regardless of time. I truly believe related

1910
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 14: Pooria is set to become the greatest mixed martial artists

1911
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 14: on God's Green Earth.

1912
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 2: Ever.

1913
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 14: I think he'll be the first person to win three

1914
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 14: titles in three different divisions. I think at the if

1915
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 14: you can get again, you know this, Kenny. So many

1916
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 14: things in life can derail the greatest, most skilled, most

1917
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 14: focused fighter ever. And let's hope whatever's going on in

1918
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 14: his life from now I'm moving forward, he can get

1919
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 14: under control and be in the octgun as often as possible.

1920
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 14: But I will say this though, that was that was

1921
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 14: the perfect main event for a brand new Paramount plus audience.

1922
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 14: It was obviously gritty, it was action packed, It was

1923
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 14: a Fighter the Year contender. Little sloppy at times, Kenny.

1924
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 14: I can imagine you probably major cringe face a few

1925
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 14: times during a few exchanges that I've seen many times

1926
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 14: when we'll be sitting in that avocado room at Fox

1927
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 14: watching fights and something will happen, you'll give me kind

1928
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 14: of a side eye and kind of.

1929
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 10: Like But.

1930
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 14: Brand new audience, it showed the guts of this sport,

1931
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 14: the heart of this sport, the action of the sport.

1932
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 2: Getche's giving us a lot more technical performances than that.

1933
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 2: I mean, where was his lake kicks.

1934
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:09,680
Speaker 14: Where was this fantastic like collar tie uppercuts that he's

1935
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 14: so famous for.

1936
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,639
Speaker 2: Instead we got a little bit more of a blood

1937
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:14,799
Speaker 2: and gut slobber knocker.

1938
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 14: But for this brand new audience, I mean they're not

1939
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 14: gonna as good as Patty Pimblet's ground game is, Like,

1940
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 14: is the brand new audience gonna appreciate that the way

1941
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 14: a more rescued audience maybe you wanted. So I thought

1942
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:25,679
Speaker 14: it was the perfect main event for the new audience.

1943
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 7: And not that much blood too. I mean this was

1944
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 7: not Kenny Florian versus Sean Shirk, right, but to be

1945
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:35,680
Speaker 7: able to have a violent brawl type of fight and

1946
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 7: not have pints of blood leaking all over the canvas RG,

1947
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 7: I think was a good thing as well. You're right,

1948
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 7: I just, uh, it's so interesting for me to ingest

1949
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 7: all of these high level MMA analysts today, Kenny and

1950
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 7: you and Demetrius Johnson and everybody having their opinions about

1951
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:54,599
Speaker 7: the fight. I know you weren't listening earlier, j when

1952
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 7: Demetrius was talking like Matt Hume if Patty Pimblet was

1953
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 7: his pupil, right, like you're there's this fight is very

1954
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:04,760
Speaker 7: clearly a path of least resistance fight, and Patty did

1955
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 7: not take it at all.

1956
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 14: So Justin Gatege has been taken down seven times in

1957
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 14: the UFC. Three of those times have been off of

1958
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:13,679
Speaker 14: caught lake kicks and the other four have been really

1959
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 14: weird ones like Michael Johnson got a takedown on him

1960
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:17,640
Speaker 14: after he heard him and it was just kind of

1961
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:18,559
Speaker 14: like a quick takedown.

1962
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 2: Kebebe took him down twice. It's Kobebe.

1963
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 14: They counted Michael Chandler's takedown against Justin gage the one

1964
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 14: where he shot the double and Gachie rolled through.

1965
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 2: And ended up on top.

1966
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 8: That was kind of the Schieddler took himself down. Yeah,

1967
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 8: he took.

1968
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:34,720
Speaker 14: Himself rand himself in the head. Right, Hey, you got

1969
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:36,679
Speaker 14: the stats. Right, He's won of seven on those takedowns.

1970
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 14: But it's it's so easier said than done taking down

1971
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:45,720
Speaker 14: Justin Gagee. And I was thinking to myself, like, man,

1972
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 14: Justin Gage's not throwing late kicks. Oh, it's got to

1973
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 14: be because he doesn't want to risk it and taken

1974
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:52,719
Speaker 14: down against Patty Penlin because that's the Patty's best course

1975
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 14: to victory. But it's also just In Gagee. Maybe he's

1976
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 14: just like fuck it, I want to just sling today

1977
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:01,560
Speaker 14: like he just like and crazy as a fighter that

1978
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 14: you never it's some you don't know where the motivations are,

1979
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 14: so I understand why. Maybe Patty Pimlin thought to himself, Okay,

1980
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 14: my first five rounder in the UFC, do I want

1981
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:15,680
Speaker 14: to attempt attempt the most tiring part of fighting, and

1982
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:17,679
Speaker 14: that's shooting for takedowns that I may not get.

1983
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 2: So maybe maybe I'm overanalyzing it, but I can see why.

1984
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 14: He thought, maybe, okay, let me take this thirty seven

1985
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 14: year old in the deep waters who's been in a

1986
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 14: million wars, and maybe they can kind of do to

1987
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 14: him what he did to Tony Ferguson.

1988
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 7: No, I think your analysis analysis provides some really good

1989
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 7: balance to the conversation and not lost on us. I know,

1990
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:45,720
Speaker 7: is just right how fatiguing wrestling can be. It was

1991
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 7: a grueling fight, and yeah, offensive wrestling is no joke,

1992
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 7: so Waldo Cortez Acosta. I mean, guys like me love

1993
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:54,880
Speaker 7: the fact that when he was seventeen years old he's

1994
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 7: chucking a little pill one hundred miles per hour in

1995
01:29:57,479 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 7: the Cincinnati Reds system. But r J like, how far

1996
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 7: can he take it? I mean, there was the Sergey

1997
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:06,640
Speaker 7: Pavlovitch set back, but by and large, he's beating all

1998
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 7: these guys. He's a tremendous athlete who's very measured against Derek.

1999
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 7: I mean, can this guy fight for the UFC heavyweight title.

2000
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 7: He's in the right division.

2001
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 14: I mean, if you look at the rankings, let's say

2002
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 14: Tom Aspinall and his I the number of surgeries or whatever,

2003
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 14: he can get back in there soon. I think we

2004
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:26,639
Speaker 14: riot if they don't do, Aspinall gone too immediately if they're.

2005
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:28,160
Speaker 2: Both available, right, So that's that's clearly it.

2006
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 14: But after that, like the guy's above him in the rankings,

2007
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 14: Sergey Pavlovitch has already lost, Churtis Blade has already lost.

2008
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 14: I mean, it's Waldo Cortes Acosta, right, and it's heavyweight, right.

2009
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:42,519
Speaker 14: So sometimes it's more process of elimination than I really

2010
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 14: think this guy is the guy to beat Tom Aspinall.

2011
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 14: I will say, though, as as awesome as Derek Lewis is,

2012
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 14: I never thought I'd see the day where a heavyweight

2013
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 14: would stand over Derek Lewis's guard and say that's way

2014
01:30:57,200 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 14: too dangerous. Oh I will not, and that guard that

2015
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:04,000
Speaker 14: is a snake fit. I would rather face Kenny, the

2016
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 14: guy with more knockouts than any man or woman in

2017
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:09,600
Speaker 14: UFC history. I rather face him on the feet, go

2018
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 14: into the dangerous guard of Derek Lewis.

2019
01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:17,720
Speaker 8: Dude, Derek Lewis by inverted oma Plada. That's how that

2020
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 8: was finished. If he went into the guard. Hey listen,

2021
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 8: O'Malley and r Maga Matov fought on Saturday night.

2022
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:27,200
Speaker 3: I thought, two really good performances, two different fighters of

2023
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:30,679
Speaker 3: courts that they faced. Who do you think is going

2024
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:33,600
Speaker 3: to get the shot against peoter Yan? And assuming that

2025
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 3: same peoter Yan that fought Morob Duallas Philly shows up,

2026
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:38,280
Speaker 3: who's got the better chance of beating him?

2027
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 14: I think the gap between I think there's pyotr Yan,

2028
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 14: Rob de Vosphilia who Mar'a Manga made off, and I

2029
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 14: think there's a pretty big gap between everybody else as

2030
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 14: of you know, January twenty sixth, twenty twenty six.

2031
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:51,559
Speaker 2: Right, things move fast, especially in the.

2032
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 14: Skilled light like maybe the most the most skilled division

2033
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:56,760
Speaker 14: now at one thirty five can we've talked forever one

2034
01:31:57,160 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 14: five best way class, Yeah, for the last twenty years.

2035
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:03,800
Speaker 2: There's yeah, might be taking that mantle right, It's it

2036
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 2: is deep.

2037
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:08,000
Speaker 14: So when you're talking about skilled guys like Corey Sandhagen, like,

2038
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:09,840
Speaker 14: oh man, they're light years away from being the best.

2039
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 2: Like that is a deep, deep weight class.

2040
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 14: I think what I think so the last six times

2041
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 14: a champion with three or moretel defenses lost, they got

2042
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 14: an immediate rematch, so Umar. So if Maroba Woalshphieli doesn't

2043
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 14: get an immediate rematch, it would break kind of that

2044
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 14: tradition with the USC's pretty good about.

2045
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 2: Hey, if you've held that belt for.

2046
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 14: A long time, depended a lot of time, many times,

2047
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 14: you deserve to get right back in thereafter. So I

2048
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:41,680
Speaker 14: think I think they'll do that. But I'm telling like,

2049
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 14: Umar is like a ten to one favorite over a

2050
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 14: former champ, and he made it look just like that,

2051
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:55,800
Speaker 14: I mean, just another level and minus sixteen close. So

2052
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 14: so a ton of money came in the last like

2053
01:32:58,080 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 14: two days on a ten to one.

2054
01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:02,040
Speaker 7: Favorite, and it's just outrageous. Yeah, I think a lot

2055
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:04,679
Speaker 7: of people just tie in Umar to every single parlay

2056
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 7: that they put on paper. But you do bring up

2057
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 7: an interesting point about one hundred and thirty five pounds,

2058
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:12,280
Speaker 7: because the three of us are lightweight apologists and it's

2059
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 7: an easy thing to apologize for. But part of the

2060
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:17,880
Speaker 7: reason why for my pay per view open this past weekend,

2061
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 7: or my numbered event open, why I didn't say on

2062
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:23,920
Speaker 7: equivocally that lightweight has been the best division is because

2063
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:27,519
Speaker 7: I kept thinking about bantam weight and guys like Tory Sandagan.

2064
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:30,400
Speaker 7: Mario Bautista, to me, is good enough to be a

2065
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 7: world champion right now. I mean, he fought Umar brilliantly

2066
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 7: toe to toe, and I can't wait to see him

2067
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:38,559
Speaker 7: headline against Vensius Olivera here in a few weeks. But yeah,

2068
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:40,560
Speaker 7: it'll be interesting to see what they do. I do

2069
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:43,840
Speaker 7: believe that Morob Dwalish Willy when we talk about like

2070
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 7: carrying the torch for the UFC, what he did in

2071
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 7: twenty twenty five, it doesn't even begin to describe carrying

2072
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:52,679
Speaker 7: the torch. He literally put the entire promotion on his back.

2073
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 7: So when you add the circumstance of him headlining four

2074
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 7: pay per views last year to everything they're doing that

2075
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:01,519
Speaker 7: Yon Dwallish will trilogy fight, I mean they have to

2076
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 7: do that, you know. You know what I wanted to

2077
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 7: ask you about Randall, I have to ask you about

2078
01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 7: John Silva, and I want to ask both of you

2079
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 7: guys about Josh hoke It, you know, because I'm I'm

2080
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 7: all for guys expressing personality on a microphone, but just

2081
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:16,680
Speaker 7: when it's so prescripted, I'm just not always with it.

2082
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 7: But dude, John Silva RJ right. I mean, I finally

2083
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:22,960
Speaker 7: found a man who cries more than me, which is nice.

2084
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:27,720
Speaker 7: But he's so good man. I mean, look what he

2085
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:31,799
Speaker 7: just did to Farasa Hobby slash Arnold Allen this past weekend.

2086
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 7: I'm really interested to see how far John Silva can

2087
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:38,840
Speaker 7: take this thing. I'm curious if you share my enthusiasm.

2088
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2089
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 14: I mean, he's on the right side of thirty, right,

2090
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 14: so he's only getting better, and he's obviously got to

2091
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 14: screw loose, but loose in the right direction, right, like

2092
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 14: as I think every mixed martial artist like, you have

2093
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:51,560
Speaker 14: to have a screw loose, but it can't be just

2094
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 14: any old loose.

2095
01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 2: It's gotta be loose in the right direction.

2096
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 14: My biggest thing about that fight, and I want to

2097
01:34:57,360 --> 01:35:00,680
Speaker 14: it's maybe a slight pivot, but Rosa Hobby got a

2098
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 14: lot of shit.

2099
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:05,519
Speaker 2: For telling Arnold Allen he was up to oh going

2100
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:06,800
Speaker 2: into that third round.

2101
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 14: And I always say, like I ninety nine point nine

2102
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:11,640
Speaker 14: percent of the time, I will never come down on

2103
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 14: a corner man, because you don't know what's going on

2104
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:15,600
Speaker 14: in that camp, and you don't know what's going on

2105
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 14: with that fighter. Like there's certain fighters that if you

2106
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:21,560
Speaker 14: tell them they're down to oh, they just they just

2107
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:22,120
Speaker 14: fall apart.

2108
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:23,800
Speaker 2: They just like, oh my god, I'm losing. I just

2109
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 2: got get I get my own head. I just have

2110
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:26,919
Speaker 2: any confidence.

2111
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:29,559
Speaker 14: And on the flip side, if you tell fighters they're

2112
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 14: doing well, they're like, oh, I'm just gonna coach like

2113
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:35,800
Speaker 14: they respond to adverse day. You'll never forget when Carlo

2114
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:38,240
Speaker 14: was con it and going into a third round and then.

2115
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:40,600
Speaker 2: His coach was just like, whatever it takes, whatever you

2116
01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:42,160
Speaker 2: gotta do. When he comes back and gets the W.

2117
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:43,880
Speaker 2: I think it was the first art of McDonald fight.

2118
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:46,680
Speaker 14: So it's it's hard for me to come down on

2119
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:49,680
Speaker 14: a really experienced coach Kenny, that you know very well

2120
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 14: and frost the hobby and say, like, what a stupid move,

2121
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:55,920
Speaker 14: giving him kind of the wrong score going in, Kenny,

2122
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 14: I don't know where you're at with this, but like

2123
01:35:57,520 --> 01:36:01,840
Speaker 14: I short of just like I don't know, just beraatement.

2124
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:04,160
Speaker 14: Like it is really really hard for me, Kenny, to

2125
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 14: go in on a corner unless I have very intimate

2126
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 14: knowledge of the coach the fighter in that camp.

2127
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:13,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, gosh, I am always going to air

2128
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:15,240
Speaker 3: on the side of caution when it comes to that,

2129
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:18,160
Speaker 3: like if a round is close, I think it's really

2130
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:20,479
Speaker 3: important to communicate that to a fighter and be like,

2131
01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 3: we don't know how this fight is going.

2132
01:36:23,680 --> 01:36:24,559
Speaker 8: You could be down.

2133
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:29,559
Speaker 3: You know, we need to make sure we bag this round. So, yeah,

2134
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:33,759
Speaker 3: that's a tough one, but you're right. So many different

2135
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:36,360
Speaker 3: fighters respond differently. And one of the guys that I've

2136
01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:38,800
Speaker 3: cornered in the UFC used to tell me, don't tell

2137
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:41,360
Speaker 3: me if I lose around because they'll lose confidence.

2138
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:43,800
Speaker 8: So yeah, everyone's different, man, It's true.

2139
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I was the biggest head case fighting Kenny.

2140
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 14: I remember my fifth fight like, I was, I'm winning

2141
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:52,640
Speaker 14: this fight, but every time i'd throw a right, my

2142
01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 14: opponent would lean super far awright and I want to

2143
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:56,840
Speaker 14: throw a headkick, and I kept getting taken down because

2144
01:36:57,280 --> 01:36:58,760
Speaker 14: my head kicks will make.

2145
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 2: Your eyes bleed. They're so terrible. And so in the

2146
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:04,439
Speaker 2: corner they're like, RJ, throw knees. Don't they do everything right?

2147
01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:04,559
Speaker 6: Right?

2148
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 14: Instead of the no, they're saying, here's an alternative, right right,

2149
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 14: when you see that, don't throw the kick.

2150
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:10,000
Speaker 2: I got it, got it, got it.

2151
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:15,080
Speaker 14: First exchange right headkick fall my back like I'm just

2152
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:17,960
Speaker 14: a moron, I'm just a head. I am uncoachable in

2153
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:20,880
Speaker 14: a fight. And so like with that knowledge, I'm like, Okay,

2154
01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:23,960
Speaker 14: I get some coaches. They can't just say the facts.

2155
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 14: You have to be able to be another level and

2156
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 14: know your fighter.

2157
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2158
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:29,040
Speaker 3: Well yeah, And I think the other thing is that

2159
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 3: a fighter is gonna fight the way that they know.

2160
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:36,280
Speaker 3: It's going to be very rare that they can just

2161
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 3: bring something to the table for the very first time

2162
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:41,000
Speaker 3: or something that's not natural to the way that they perform.

2163
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:42,639
Speaker 8: So yeah, it's tricky.

2164
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2165
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:45,800
Speaker 14: And then also in that fight, my my roommate at

2166
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 14: the time said if I won by headkick, he'd buy

2167
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:48,800
Speaker 14: me a Kegeraider.

2168
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 8: I see you wanted.

2169
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 2: That's explains my my overall in my career.

2170
01:37:55,439 --> 01:38:00,400
Speaker 7: So Ty Miller, young father of two, twenty five years

2171
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:03,799
Speaker 7: of age, wins a one hundred thousand dollars performance bonus,

2172
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 7: and that makes a big difference, right, fifty grand they

2173
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:10,640
Speaker 7: take seventeen, you make thirty three on the net. One

2174
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:13,840
Speaker 7: hundred grand. It's a big deal for Tody Miller. Josh

2175
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:17,360
Speaker 7: Hokitt also wins a bonus, and I feel bad sort

2176
01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:20,280
Speaker 7: of knocking the post fight interview with Joe Rogan because

2177
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:21,720
Speaker 7: I think for a lot of people that is their

2178
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 7: cup of tea and hook It walks into the fighter

2179
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:25,840
Speaker 7: meeting and tells me how nice my teeth are, that

2180
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:27,760
Speaker 7: I have a nice smile. So I feel bad sort

2181
01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:30,960
Speaker 7: of knocking the guy. But uh, yeah, I don't know,

2182
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:33,520
Speaker 7: r J. I guess for me, I mean, I appreciated

2183
01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:35,840
Speaker 7: some of the jokes in there, and I like the

2184
01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 7: fact that he is trying to entertain the masses beyond

2185
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:42,560
Speaker 7: the way he fights, which is very high level I

2186
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:44,559
Speaker 7: think for a heavyweight, and he's got great coaches at

2187
01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:47,240
Speaker 7: Jackson Wake MMA Academy. But I don't know. I'm just

2188
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:49,920
Speaker 7: not always loving like the scripted stuff. I'm more of

2189
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:52,120
Speaker 7: like a Patty pimblet Connor McGregor, shoot from the hip

2190
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:53,599
Speaker 7: type postfight and interview guy.

2191
01:38:54,479 --> 01:38:54,679
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2192
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:55,080
Speaker 2: Same.

2193
01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:59,559
Speaker 14: I think also, though, as long as you're memorable, you're

2194
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:01,760
Speaker 14: kind of half a notch above everyone else.

2195
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 6: Like it.

2196
01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:05,160
Speaker 14: Just Hey, I want to thank my camp. I want

2197
01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 14: to think my coaches. I trained really hard. Hey, Dana,

2198
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:13,240
Speaker 14: how about a bonus, like anything other than that? I

2199
01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:15,640
Speaker 14: think for a bonus whatever, you Yeah, Like, if you

2200
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:18,040
Speaker 14: do anything other than that, you're already kind of like

2201
01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:19,920
Speaker 14: the worst you can get is a C minus on

2202
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:22,920
Speaker 14: my grade. But overall I'm with you, Like when you

2203
01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 14: can tell like he was in the mirror that morning

2204
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:29,000
Speaker 14: after a shower of practicing it, it's kind yeah okay,

2205
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:32,760
Speaker 14: like or or it needs to be epic right like

2206
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 14: Chale song and you could tell he rehearsed what he

2207
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:36,760
Speaker 14: was gonna say, but it was so good.

2208
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:39,640
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I didn't care, right, So you.

2209
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:41,719
Speaker 2: Gotta be one of if you're gonna if you're gonna sound.

2210
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:46,000
Speaker 14: Rehearsed, it needs to be like an oscar Worthy monologue,

2211
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:48,280
Speaker 14: Like it needs to be like a few good men

2212
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:51,000
Speaker 14: you you you know what I'm saying, Like you got

2213
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:51,920
Speaker 14: to be on the stand.

2214
01:39:52,439 --> 01:39:53,400
Speaker 7: Did you order the code?

2215
01:39:53,439 --> 01:39:55,360
Speaker 2: Read your goddamn rod? It has to be that good.

2216
01:39:57,120 --> 01:39:58,679
Speaker 2: And how about the doubling the bonus?

2217
01:39:59,240 --> 01:39:59,960
Speaker 8: I thought for sure.

2218
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:01,639
Speaker 14: So this was Dana's way of trying to get Kenny

2219
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:03,160
Speaker 14: to come out of retirement, Like this is his way,

2220
01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:06,760
Speaker 14: but I don't think he knows how rich you are now, Kenny.

2221
01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:10,720
Speaker 2: So it's like one hundred and k It's like, right, no,

2222
01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:11,120
Speaker 2: thank you.

2223
01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:14,479
Speaker 7: It would have to go so far down, Kenny to

2224
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:15,639
Speaker 7: not just have money fallow.

2225
01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:17,400
Speaker 2: How much would Bigcoin have to be for you to

2226
01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:19,719
Speaker 2: have to come out with Stop Stop.

2227
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:22,600
Speaker 7: It is interesting, though, because so many of us have

2228
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:25,400
Speaker 7: been pining for a finished bonus for years. So as

2229
01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:28,639
Speaker 7: great as the one hundred thousand dollars bonus is now,

2230
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:31,519
Speaker 7: the fact that everybody's getting twenty five grand if you

2231
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:35,400
Speaker 7: put somebody away, I think is so overdue and so great.

2232
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:38,479
Speaker 7: You know, hey, r J. Before I let you go

2233
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 7: straight meritocracy, A lot of people take issue with the

2234
01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 7: fact that Laren Murphy, your mothsor Ievloyev is being passed

2235
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:49,640
Speaker 7: over and Diego Lopez is getting a second opportunity. But

2236
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:52,759
Speaker 7: the fight, at least on paper right now is minus

2237
01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:55,720
Speaker 7: one sixty two Volcan Diego Lopez plus one thirty six.

2238
01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:59,400
Speaker 7: So it's close. I don't know if you can predict

2239
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:03,120
Speaker 7: based upon your employment, but what is your forecast for

2240
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 7: this weekend? Before we let you fly?

2241
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:09,640
Speaker 14: I think Gleaxander Volkanovsky is in a really I think

2242
01:41:09,680 --> 01:41:12,679
Speaker 14: they're both. I think the Ulfs he put this together

2243
01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 14: at this time, knowing Volkanovsky's age, Diego Lopez's ascension, and

2244
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:19,960
Speaker 14: then knowing like you mentioned, the killers coming up. Wolves

2245
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:23,680
Speaker 14: are Vloyev and Larn Murphy. It's like, Okay, this is uh,

2246
01:41:24,479 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 14: it should be a fun fighter. I can't tell you

2247
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:28,720
Speaker 14: for sure who's gonna win, but it looks awesome as hell,

2248
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:32,280
Speaker 14: and outsider Volkanovsky being able to be the game planner

2249
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:34,880
Speaker 14: that he is to take advantage of dangerous but and

2250
01:41:35,160 --> 01:41:37,960
Speaker 14: reckless is the wrong word for Diego Lopez, but you

2251
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:39,840
Speaker 14: know he makes that gamble like I'm going to be

2252
01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 14: super aggressive and there's a counter there, but I'm making

2253
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:46,160
Speaker 14: that calculated call, right, And I think we'll see a

2254
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:48,120
Speaker 14: lot more of that with the bonuses doubling and the

2255
01:41:48,160 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 14: finished bonuses now now a thing.

2256
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:50,880
Speaker 2: So I think that.

2257
01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:54,640
Speaker 14: Timing is right for this rematch again meritocracy obviously, I

2258
01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:57,280
Speaker 14: feel like when Laura Murphy won by spinning back elbow,

2259
01:41:57,360 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 14: it's like I thought that was the only thing keeping

2260
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:01,759
Speaker 14: him from getting a title. He was undefeated, he's so slick,

2261
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 14: he's so good, just kind of the holy shit moments

2262
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:07,600
Speaker 14: kind of eluded him, and he got one in his

2263
01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 14: last fight, so I thought for sure that would put

2264
01:42:09,160 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 14: him over the top. But I understand the timing in

2265
01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:14,640
Speaker 14: this matchup. If Laoyev and Murphy aren't going anywhere, And

2266
01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:17,880
Speaker 14: I think those two. I think we're gonna see a

2267
01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:21,200
Speaker 14: championship trilogy between a LAWYEV and Murphy at some point

2268
01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 14: in the next four to five years.

2269
01:42:22,479 --> 01:42:24,160
Speaker 2: I think those two are just just so good.

2270
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:25,439
Speaker 6: Well, and r J.

2271
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:27,560
Speaker 7: Clifford's not going anywhere either. You can see him on

2272
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:29,680
Speaker 7: the UFC three twenty five official Way and Show. What

2273
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:30,880
Speaker 7: is that Thursday night?

2274
01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:35,120
Speaker 2: I believe this Thursday night for US West and East coasters.

2275
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:37,760
Speaker 7: Yes right, hey, great to have you with us on

2276
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 7: the All the Smoke launch episode today. Plenty more where

2277
01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 7: that came from the future, brother, and uh, I will

2278
01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:44,639
Speaker 7: see you at UFC three two six, I guess if

2279
01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:45,080
Speaker 7: not sooner.

2280
01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 2: What a name All the Smoke?

2281
01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:50,040
Speaker 8: Thanks for getting dressed up by the way too, I

2282
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:50,720
Speaker 8: did I know?

2283
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:55,680
Speaker 7: I like this guy? Yeah, classy and you had a

2284
01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:57,519
Speaker 7: top hat. I had a top hat.

2285
01:42:57,520 --> 01:43:01,559
Speaker 14: I would have want Raiders hat and tuxtedo like RGI's

2286
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:02,320
Speaker 14: going to prom.

2287
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:05,639
Speaker 7: Yeah all right, buddy, Well we'll let your wind bag

2288
01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 7: get a little respite. We'll see on the Way and

2289
01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 7: Show Thursday. Thanks buddy, Thanks boys. R J Clifford Anaki

2290
01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:14,320
Speaker 7: Floring Podcast Mixed Martial arts contributor, joining us today here

2291
01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:18,960
Speaker 7: live as we continue with our launch episode on All

2292
01:43:19,160 --> 01:43:21,640
Speaker 7: the Smoke Fight, and we go right back out to

2293
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:24,679
Speaker 7: the guest line right now. I just needed five minutes

2294
01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:27,120
Speaker 7: with this man. I just needed five minutes today. That's

2295
01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:30,120
Speaker 7: all I asked for. It's got his own podcast now. Yeah,

2296
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:34,479
Speaker 7: the newly minted UFC Hall of Famer. The induction ceremony

2297
01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:37,720
Speaker 7: will come at some point in twenty twenty six. It

2298
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:39,960
Speaker 7: doesn't appear as though Domina Cruz can hear us, so

2299
01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:42,920
Speaker 7: at some point he'll be able to hear us. But

2300
01:43:43,880 --> 01:43:46,599
Speaker 7: can you hear me, Cruising, No, he can't hear me, Cody,

2301
01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 7: maybe you can put him in the back. Dom if

2302
01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:52,600
Speaker 7: you can hear me, maybe go out and come back in. So,

2303
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 7: Dominic Cruz is one of my best friends on this

2304
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 7: broadcast team, and it came to my attention a few

2305
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:02,200
Speaker 7: weeks ago that we were going to announce that dom

2306
01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:05,479
Speaker 7: was going into the UFC Hall of Fame, and so

2307
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:09,000
Speaker 7: I voiced a wild line sort of confidentially that the

2308
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:11,720
Speaker 7: UFC could repurpose or whatever. But then I'm charged with

2309
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:14,960
Speaker 7: writing a lead that I'm going to deliver in house

2310
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:18,200
Speaker 7: to announce dom being in the Hall of Fame, and

2311
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 7: he is also going to hear this and then know

2312
01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:24,040
Speaker 7: that he's in the Hall of Fame. He's going to

2313
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:25,360
Speaker 7: be up on the desk and it's going to be

2314
01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 7: this big moment. And you heard me talk about it

2315
01:44:28,160 --> 01:44:30,720
Speaker 7: earlier with Demitrius Johnson. I felt like he was going

2316
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:35,840
Speaker 7: to be super emotional, and I don't necessarily think he

2317
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:37,040
Speaker 7: cried cruising. Can you hear me?

2318
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:37,200
Speaker 10: Now?

2319
01:44:37,640 --> 01:44:42,160
Speaker 7: I got you, Row. I just needed five minutes with

2320
01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:45,120
Speaker 7: you today to congratulate you on the announcement that this

2321
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:47,400
Speaker 7: summer or at some point in twenty twenty six, you

2322
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:49,519
Speaker 7: will be going into the UFC Hall of Fame. Now,

2323
01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:52,439
Speaker 7: I know you knew this was coming at some point

2324
01:44:52,439 --> 01:44:53,640
Speaker 7: in time. You didn't know if it was going to

2325
01:44:53,640 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 7: be twenty twenty six or twenty twenty seven or whatever, right,

2326
01:44:56,240 --> 01:45:00,360
Speaker 7: But like two weeks ago, it crosses my wake and

2327
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:03,600
Speaker 7: I know I'm not gonna like blow the surprise, But

2328
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 7: can you just describe what it was like in that moment?

2329
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:10,760
Speaker 7: I mean, are you like even paying attention to what's

2330
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:11,280
Speaker 7: going on.

2331
01:45:13,439 --> 01:45:14,080
Speaker 6: To the fights?

2332
01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, like you're I'm sure like you're on a break. So, like,

2333
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:20,000
Speaker 7: is somebody trying to let you know that this is happening.

2334
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:22,679
Speaker 7: Are you even paying attention when I crack a mic

2335
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:23,320
Speaker 7: in house?

2336
01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:24,000
Speaker 10: No?

2337
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:27,120
Speaker 11: They I mean I didn't know what was going on

2338
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 11: when I was there on the desk. They just kind

2339
01:45:29,320 --> 01:45:32,160
Speaker 11: of you just start seeing this big video and then

2340
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:35,320
Speaker 11: you're like, oh, this is They're going to do this

2341
01:45:35,479 --> 01:45:39,280
Speaker 11: thing that they've done for other people, you know, Oh,

2342
01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:43,719
Speaker 11: and you're just like, it's a it is it's like winning.

2343
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 11: It did feel like winning the belt again in that

2344
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:51,880
Speaker 11: brief moment, because everybody's like looking up at you, and

2345
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:55,760
Speaker 11: I was up on the top right there at the

2346
01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:58,800
Speaker 11: paramount desk, so that was It reminded me of when

2347
01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:03,720
Speaker 11: I was supposed to fight Cody Garbrandt and we were

2348
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:05,400
Speaker 11: talking shit to each other at the top.

2349
01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:06,880
Speaker 6: Of the yeah.

2350
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 11: Yeah, And it reminded me of winning the belt. And

2351
01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:11,559
Speaker 11: it reminded me of many different moments that I've gotten

2352
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:14,840
Speaker 11: been blessed to have. And it was cool that you know,

2353
01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:17,600
Speaker 11: they do that for for us fighters, that they that

2354
01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:19,840
Speaker 11: they give us a moment like that. It's I felt

2355
01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:23,639
Speaker 11: appreciated and respected for that, and that's very nice.

2356
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:26,720
Speaker 8: How emotional did you get watching that?

2357
01:46:26,840 --> 01:46:27,000
Speaker 6: Man?

2358
01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:30,240
Speaker 3: I mean obviously you know you were tired and then

2359
01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:35,639
Speaker 3: seeing that honor come through. It's something very very special.

2360
01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:38,320
Speaker 3: But you were in analyst mode, So what were you feeling.

2361
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:39,400
Speaker 7: Why at all?

2362
01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:43,320
Speaker 11: It's everybody wants to see me, like up there crying, right,

2363
01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:45,280
Speaker 11: It's not like I'm trying to hold it back. But

2364
01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:49,160
Speaker 11: it was kind of overwhelming. It's it was an overwhelmed feeling.

2365
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:51,760
Speaker 11: You're almost so overwhelmed the tears couldn't even come out,

2366
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:54,240
Speaker 11: Like You're just like, what the hell is going on?

2367
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:58,000
Speaker 11: This is crazy because it's a whole stadium of people

2368
01:46:58,280 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 11: and everything turns off, you know what I mean.

2369
01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:01,439
Speaker 5: So that's not a normal thing.

2370
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:03,439
Speaker 11: That doesn't he You don't even feel that when you're fighting,

2371
01:47:03,800 --> 01:47:05,640
Speaker 11: like where everybody's just it.

2372
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:06,240
Speaker 10: You don't.

2373
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:07,320
Speaker 11: It doesn't feel like that.

2374
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:09,200
Speaker 6: So it was wild.

2375
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:11,479
Speaker 11: I feel like that's what a comedian would feel like,

2376
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:15,679
Speaker 11: or like, you know, seriously, it was crazy.

2377
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:20,680
Speaker 7: So Dominic Cruz has a new podcast, widely viewed. It's outstanding,

2378
01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:23,719
Speaker 7: Love and War. The episode with TJ. Dillashaw is absolutely awesome,

2379
01:47:23,720 --> 01:47:26,439
Speaker 7: And I know you're gonna chronicle this whole appearance, excuse me,

2380
01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:29,320
Speaker 7: this whole experience on your podcast. You know, we wanted

2381
01:47:29,320 --> 01:47:31,519
Speaker 7: to just bring you on to congratulate you.

2382
01:47:31,640 --> 01:47:31,760
Speaker 13: Now.

2383
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:34,439
Speaker 7: I was looking up the pronunciation of your middle name,

2384
01:47:34,600 --> 01:47:37,320
Speaker 7: Rohelio the night before because you could be sure I

2385
01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:40,360
Speaker 7: was gonna drop a Rohelio. And you know there's nothing

2386
01:47:40,520 --> 01:47:42,880
Speaker 7: silent about that or there. You know, you don't turn

2387
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:46,000
Speaker 7: that R to an H like Brazilian Portuguese. So did

2388
01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:47,559
Speaker 7: I pronounce dominic rohe?

2389
01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:51,240
Speaker 11: You did your pronunciations perfect as always, and my dad

2390
01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:53,720
Speaker 11: would be proud. My dad, that's my dad's name has

2391
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:55,240
Speaker 11: been passed down, So thanks.

2392
01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 4: Are we proud?

2393
01:47:57,479 --> 01:47:59,320
Speaker 8: I would have been, like, you know, I'm not talking

2394
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:01,200
Speaker 8: to have any That's.

2395
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:06,400
Speaker 7: It's interesting when I think back to right you being

2396
01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:09,000
Speaker 7: up on the desk saying bring it, talking about the

2397
01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:13,519
Speaker 7: Cody Garbrand fight, or when they play the retirement package

2398
01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:16,719
Speaker 7: for you as you're an analyst, and you turn around

2399
01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:18,720
Speaker 7: and thank the whole arena, you know. But this is

2400
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:22,799
Speaker 7: a particularly unique experience. And we were talking to Dimitrius

2401
01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:24,720
Speaker 7: Johnson earlier and his name is going to be called

2402
01:48:24,720 --> 01:48:26,640
Speaker 7: I'm sure the not too distant future. But I was

2403
01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:30,160
Speaker 7: a little bit surprised that you didn't cry. I know

2404
01:48:30,280 --> 01:48:32,719
Speaker 7: you were in analyst mode. You got twenty five thousand

2405
01:48:32,760 --> 01:48:36,559
Speaker 7: fucking people looking at you but had first Yeah, man,

2406
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:40,880
Speaker 7: have you had an emotional moment since either talking to

2407
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:43,560
Speaker 7: your mom. It doesn't sound like you've even sort of

2408
01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:46,639
Speaker 7: let this really marin it yet.

2409
01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:49,320
Speaker 11: I feel like part of what allows you to take

2410
01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:51,640
Speaker 11: things in is kind of having other people around you,

2411
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:54,040
Speaker 11: So kind of this right now is probably the closest

2412
01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:57,519
Speaker 11: thing I've done to really assimilating it. You know, I

2413
01:48:57,640 --> 01:48:59,880
Speaker 11: live alone. I'm going to go drive up to LA

2414
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:02,000
Speaker 11: to go do this podcast and talk about it. That

2415
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:04,840
Speaker 11: will help me get through it, like think about it

2416
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:07,000
Speaker 11: more and just assimilate it more. But I think that

2417
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:09,720
Speaker 11: a lot of us really bring information in with our

2418
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:12,000
Speaker 11: family and our friends, right like you talk about it,

2419
01:49:12,080 --> 01:49:16,680
Speaker 11: they tell you their experience too. And uh, you know,

2420
01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 11: I'm just I flew in from Vegas last night, so

2421
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:20,960
Speaker 11: I'm just kind of like taking it in on my

2422
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:22,760
Speaker 11: own today. And then as I talk about it with

2423
01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:25,040
Speaker 11: you and talk about it up in l A, I

2424
01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:27,320
Speaker 11: think it'll it'll kick in. But no, it's it's weird,

2425
01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:31,599
Speaker 11: and I uh, it's like the same thing as the retirement.

2426
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:34,479
Speaker 11: You kind of it takes time to sink in. It's

2427
01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 11: a different lifestyle. It's a lot of overwhelming I've been

2428
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:43,479
Speaker 11: working my whole life to be here, you know, and

2429
01:49:43,560 --> 01:49:46,000
Speaker 11: then and then you get here, to the end of

2430
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:48,040
Speaker 11: the career in the Hall of Fame, and you did

2431
01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:50,759
Speaker 11: what you set out to do, and it's it's surreal.

2432
01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:53,559
Speaker 11: It's it's only I can say. It's a surreal thing.

2433
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:56,479
Speaker 11: It's it's hard to believe. And it felt like an

2434
01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:59,040
Speaker 11: actual like I was in a movie or a dream

2435
01:50:00,280 --> 01:50:03,000
Speaker 11: that time. And that's how you feel when you win

2436
01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:06,519
Speaker 11: your titles too, Kenny. You know, when you win these fights, right, like,

2437
01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:08,759
Speaker 11: it kind of feels like a dream for a period

2438
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:10,479
Speaker 11: of time and then it kind of settles down and

2439
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:11,080
Speaker 11: gets normal.

2440
01:50:11,200 --> 01:50:11,360
Speaker 13: Right.

2441
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:14,960
Speaker 11: But that's kind of where I'm at. I don't know

2442
01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:16,840
Speaker 11: if I have complete team, and I don't know how.

2443
01:50:17,240 --> 01:50:18,920
Speaker 11: If somebody can give me a book on how to

2444
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:19,920
Speaker 11: do this, I would love it.

2445
01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:22,559
Speaker 6: Well, I really would.

2446
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:25,720
Speaker 7: If you look back, if you look back to two

2447
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:28,280
Speaker 7: thousand and six, and I said this to DJ earlier,

2448
01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:30,439
Speaker 7: what would you say to Domina Cruz in two thousand

2449
01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:31,960
Speaker 7: and six, you say you did it? I mean you

2450
01:50:32,080 --> 01:50:34,280
Speaker 7: did it. You're the consensus greatest band of weight of

2451
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:36,280
Speaker 7: all time and you're going into the UFC Hall of Fame.

2452
01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:38,439
Speaker 7: I think you're going to experience a lot of nerves

2453
01:50:38,439 --> 01:50:40,439
Speaker 7: and emotions when you get ready to sort of give

2454
01:50:40,479 --> 01:50:45,280
Speaker 7: that speech. And our producer Cody Merrow, our producer Cody

2455
01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:48,280
Speaker 7: says Dojo should be the first dog on stage at

2456
01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:51,240
Speaker 7: the UFC Hall of Fame induction ceremony. And I think

2457
01:50:51,320 --> 01:50:52,200
Speaker 7: that's a great idea.

2458
01:50:52,439 --> 01:50:57,960
Speaker 11: So oh, come on stop, so you know, I'll have

2459
01:50:58,240 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 11: you know, I got a lot of family around me too,

2460
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:01,960
Speaker 11: but right now, just everybody's out of town, so they'll

2461
01:51:02,160 --> 01:51:03,920
Speaker 11: they'll be there with me. I'll have my people. But

2462
01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:08,160
Speaker 11: my favorite, my favorite induction was definitely listening to I

2463
01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:09,720
Speaker 11: don't know if it was an induction or what, but

2464
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:14,600
Speaker 11: listening to DJ receive it and him go like like

2465
01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:17,000
Speaker 11: when he was received did you see that interview where

2466
01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:19,439
Speaker 11: he was where he was receiving some award and he

2467
01:51:19,560 --> 01:51:21,920
Speaker 11: started like crying and he was trying to talk and

2468
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:23,640
Speaker 11: he couldn't talk, and he was.

2469
01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:28,599
Speaker 7: Like like, yeah, yeah, well dude, I remember, like Dustin Pourier, Oh.

2470
01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:30,800
Speaker 5: My god, it was you guys.

2471
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:33,800
Speaker 11: You have to pull up that interview of him before

2472
01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:34,320
Speaker 11: he gets on.

2473
01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:38,200
Speaker 7: We had him on earlier and it didn't he didn't

2474
01:51:38,240 --> 01:51:40,679
Speaker 7: mention that, but maybe because I want to bring attention

2475
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:41,040
Speaker 7: to it.

2476
01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:43,000
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, the only one who's seen it. Have

2477
01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 5: you guys seen the interview?

2478
01:51:46,040 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 7: But oh my god, yeah, we'll see he hasn't been

2479
01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:50,960
Speaker 7: inducted into the UFC Hall of Fame.

2480
01:51:51,080 --> 01:51:53,080
Speaker 11: I died laughing when I saw that. And when I

2481
01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:56,200
Speaker 11: saw him video, I was like, I can't be like that.

2482
01:51:56,640 --> 01:51:57,360
Speaker 4: That's just the one.

2483
01:51:58,080 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 5: That's the one thing I can't happen.

2484
01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:02,360
Speaker 11: You need to find it, and when you see it,

2485
01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:05,000
Speaker 11: you need to post it on here so everybody knows

2486
01:52:05,040 --> 01:52:07,479
Speaker 11: what I'm talking about. And it is hilarious and I'm

2487
01:52:07,479 --> 01:52:09,760
Speaker 11: not making fun of him, It's just hilarious.

2488
01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:11,040
Speaker 9: I love it.

2489
01:52:11,360 --> 01:52:14,640
Speaker 11: He was so happy, he got all emotional and they

2490
01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:17,800
Speaker 11: made him trying to talk and he couldn't talk, and

2491
01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:18,719
Speaker 11: it was amazing.

2492
01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:20,840
Speaker 7: So our pretty looking for it right now. But I

2493
01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:23,760
Speaker 7: remember being backstage with Dustin Pourier when he was just

2494
01:52:24,320 --> 01:52:27,400
Speaker 7: accepting like a Toyo Tires Community Award at the Hall

2495
01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:29,439
Speaker 7: of Fame induction ceremony, and how nervous he was to

2496
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:31,560
Speaker 7: just go to the podium for that. So, Cody, I

2497
01:52:31,600 --> 01:52:33,599
Speaker 7: don't know if you're able to filter that into the show.

2498
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:36,840
Speaker 11: Find it Eventually, I'll say this. When I do the

2499
01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:39,360
Speaker 11: actual award ceremony, I think that it'll kick in a

2500
01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:41,760
Speaker 11: little different for sure. Yes, this is the one.

2501
01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:42,640
Speaker 8: Listen to this.

2502
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:49,040
Speaker 2: I think you too, Matt.

2503
01:52:59,560 --> 01:53:02,840
Speaker 6: Love know, oh he's the best, but he's such a

2504
01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:04,800
Speaker 6: nice guy, but he is.

2505
01:53:10,320 --> 01:53:12,320
Speaker 7: Thank you for providing this context.

2506
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:13,600
Speaker 5: You need to watch this.

2507
01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:21,679
Speaker 8: Thank you, my wife, thinking, my wife, my children.

2508
01:53:29,000 --> 01:53:34,679
Speaker 11: Yes, that's how you receive a freaking award.

2509
01:53:35,240 --> 01:53:35,839
Speaker 8: That's awesome.

2510
01:53:36,479 --> 01:53:40,080
Speaker 7: That's the book that's amazing. His wife Destiny there in

2511
01:53:40,120 --> 01:53:41,360
Speaker 7: the crowd, I'm laughing.

2512
01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:42,880
Speaker 8: At Dom, laughing at DJ.

2513
01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:45,800
Speaker 5: That's the Oh my god.

2514
01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:48,400
Speaker 11: Like when I saw that and I was thinking, like,

2515
01:53:48,479 --> 01:53:50,320
Speaker 11: one of these days I'm gonna be in this situation.

2516
01:53:50,920 --> 01:53:52,719
Speaker 11: Don't try to talk and start crying.

2517
01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:57,040
Speaker 7: It's so funny that he didn't bring that up when

2518
01:53:57,080 --> 01:54:00,559
Speaker 7: I talked about how his He doesn't want you to say,

2519
01:54:02,360 --> 01:54:04,240
Speaker 7: come on, well, he had some nice things to say

2520
01:54:04,280 --> 01:54:07,519
Speaker 7: about you. Hey, congratulations. I can't wait to see you

2521
01:54:07,640 --> 01:54:09,400
Speaker 7: talk about all of this on Love and War. You're

2522
01:54:09,439 --> 01:54:11,599
Speaker 7: crushing it with the new show, and I just can't

2523
01:54:11,640 --> 01:54:13,160
Speaker 7: wait to be backstage with you, with you at the

2524
01:54:13,160 --> 01:54:15,880
Speaker 7: Hall of Fame induction ceremony, when you're when you're getting

2525
01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:17,680
Speaker 7: nervous as if you're about to fight a man, and

2526
01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:18,800
Speaker 7: it's really not that deep.

2527
01:54:20,320 --> 01:54:21,720
Speaker 5: You're right, You're right.

2528
01:54:22,439 --> 01:54:24,439
Speaker 11: You know Annie knows who well. I overthink a lot.

2529
01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:27,519
Speaker 11: But first of all, I want to start with I

2530
01:54:27,680 --> 01:54:31,120
Speaker 11: appreciate Demetrius Johnson for providing that content for us.

2531
01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:31,840
Speaker 6: Thank you.

2532
01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:36,200
Speaker 11: It was freaking amazing and it's a really that's that's

2533
01:54:36,240 --> 01:54:39,120
Speaker 11: the way you're supposed to receive awards. I agree, and

2534
01:54:39,680 --> 01:54:43,520
Speaker 11: that's what you were asking of me, and you know

2535
01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:45,440
Speaker 11: I had a reference to not let that happen. So

2536
01:54:45,560 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 11: thanks DJ.

2537
01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:46,480
Speaker 2: There you go.

2538
01:54:46,720 --> 01:54:47,560
Speaker 5: What is that in July?

2539
01:54:47,920 --> 01:54:48,680
Speaker 8: Is the Hall of Fame thing?

2540
01:54:48,720 --> 01:54:51,240
Speaker 7: You don't know yet? We actually don't go yet. I

2541
01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:53,960
Speaker 7: think the White House car We just don't know yet.

2542
01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:56,080
Speaker 8: Dom get your reps in. You have a few months

2543
01:54:56,120 --> 01:54:56,640
Speaker 8: to learn.

2544
01:54:56,800 --> 01:54:58,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, because I'm still gonna have to talk and I could.

2545
01:54:58,760 --> 01:55:00,560
Speaker 11: It's still not too It's I will seem to be

2546
01:55:00,600 --> 01:55:02,240
Speaker 11: saying I'm not gonna sound like that, right.

2547
01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:06,360
Speaker 8: Like I yes, dude, Yeah, that's awesome.

2548
01:55:06,360 --> 01:55:08,240
Speaker 7: I might put something in your drink that makes you

2549
01:55:08,320 --> 01:55:12,080
Speaker 7: extra emotion. Hey, thanks buddy, appreciate you.

2550
01:55:12,200 --> 01:55:13,320
Speaker 5: Thanks, guys, appreciate you.

2551
01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:17,480
Speaker 7: Here he is Domina Cruz announced over the weekend as

2552
01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:19,640
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2553
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2554
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2555
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2556
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2557
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Speaker 7: we dive in to the main card of UFC three

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Speaker 7: twenty five, and it brings me great privilege at this

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Speaker 7: time to bring on a man who is no stranger

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Speaker 7: to the anticin Florian podcast audience, in my opinion, for

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Speaker 7: a man who did not compete as a pro in

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Speaker 7: mixed martial arts. He is the best handicapper on the planet.

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Speaker 7: He was a staple of our show for many years.

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Speaker 7: He is a dear friend and we are absolutely thrilled

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Speaker 7: to welcome back The Duck Ian Parker for twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 7: My man, looking good. I'm actually getting chills introducing you.

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Speaker 7: It's great to have you back.

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Speaker 8: Brother.

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Speaker 7: How we feeling you know what?

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Speaker 9: I was feeling the same thing and getting your emails

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Speaker 9: about this, I was getting chills and I just got

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Speaker 9: to say, let's fucking go. I haven't on a podcast

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01:57:30,880 --> 01:57:34,240
Speaker 9: or a show since I've done this show. I've had

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Speaker 9: a lot of bottled up energy to be able to

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Speaker 9: do that. I love you boys. You know there's a

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Speaker 9: saying you can never go back home. Bullshit. I'm here.

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Speaker 4: Let's do it.

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Speaker 8: This feels way too good.

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Speaker 7: It is great to have you back. And if you

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Speaker 7: don't know, Ian was the chief MMA handicapper for ESPN

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Speaker 7: for the last seven years or so, and in part

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Speaker 7: that was a preventative measure in terms of his presence

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01:57:56,560 --> 01:57:57,920
Speaker 7: on the show. So we're very happy to have the

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01:57:58,000 --> 01:58:00,800
Speaker 7: Ducky and Parker back on the program. And hey, real

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01:58:00,920 --> 01:58:04,240
Speaker 7: quick before we get to UFC three twenty five. A

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01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:07,400
Speaker 7: lot of criticism being levied at Patty Pimblet for his

2612
01:58:07,560 --> 01:58:10,200
Speaker 7: strategy or lack thereof, in terms of how he approached

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01:58:10,240 --> 01:58:13,360
Speaker 7: the Justin Geiachee fight Justin Gaigie at thirty seven years old,

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01:58:13,480 --> 01:58:16,320
Speaker 7: realizing a lightweight championship. Just wanted to give you thirty

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01:58:16,360 --> 01:58:18,160
Speaker 7: seconds to sound off on the main event before we

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Speaker 7: spend things for.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know what the hell Patty Pimblet's game

2618
01:58:21,360 --> 01:58:24,080
Speaker 9: plan was that was. It's like he didn't have one

2619
01:58:24,200 --> 01:58:26,520
Speaker 9: or he just really expected that he can land one move,

2620
01:58:26,760 --> 01:58:29,640
Speaker 9: one strike on Gaichee and then get rid of it.

2621
01:58:29,760 --> 01:58:33,480
Speaker 9: But Justin Geechee is just so battle tested, so ready

2622
01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:35,360
Speaker 9: for war, and I think he really took advantage of

2623
01:58:35,480 --> 01:58:38,080
Speaker 9: this is my last chance and possibly, I hate to

2624
01:58:38,120 --> 01:58:41,920
Speaker 9: say this his easiest opponent to date when fighting at

2625
01:58:41,960 --> 01:58:46,120
Speaker 9: this point and by easyding between experience, between stylistic matchup.

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01:58:46,440 --> 01:58:49,720
Speaker 9: Patty couldn't wrestle. Patty was getting smoked early, and so

2627
01:58:49,880 --> 01:58:52,880
Speaker 9: good for Justin Gaigee for capitalizing on what may have

2628
01:58:52,960 --> 01:58:56,200
Speaker 9: been a retirement fight. HATTI lost. Patty's young. He'll come back,

2629
01:58:56,280 --> 01:58:59,240
Speaker 9: he'll learn from this. But that game plan there was none.

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01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:02,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, So UFC three twenty five Volkanovski versus

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Speaker 7: Lopez two. Yes, it is yours just with a paramount

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Speaker 7: plus subscription nine pm Eastern for the main card. It

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Speaker 7: will be Sunday morning in Australia. We will be picking

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01:59:11,520 --> 01:59:14,200
Speaker 7: all of the main card fights for you today. Sometimes

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01:59:14,240 --> 01:59:17,080
Speaker 7: when the prelim fights are big and when is necessitated,

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01:59:17,120 --> 01:59:19,040
Speaker 7: the fellows will be picking those as well. We will

2637
01:59:19,160 --> 01:59:21,640
Speaker 7: track their records in the main event challenge, but largely

2638
01:59:21,720 --> 01:59:24,400
Speaker 7: with this show is about is place your bets and

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Speaker 7: when we get there, they will each have three thousand

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Speaker 7: All right, first fight on the main card and the

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01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:35,880
Speaker 7: lightweight division. Quillan Salkilled is a massive favorite against veteran

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01:59:35,960 --> 01:59:38,920
Speaker 7: Jamie Malarkey. Ian sal killed, one of the UFC's top

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01:59:39,040 --> 01:59:41,720
Speaker 7: rookies in twenty twenty five. I guess without a tabagatier,

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01:59:42,160 --> 01:59:44,840
Speaker 7: probably all the hardware would have gone to Quillen sal Killed.

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01:59:45,640 --> 01:59:47,520
Speaker 7: What do you think he has for the fellow Aussie,

2647
01:59:47,640 --> 01:59:50,440
Speaker 7: the twelve time UFC veteran at Jamie Malackey.

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01:59:51,040 --> 01:59:54,280
Speaker 9: I'm a little surprised in this fight, considering his last one.

2649
01:59:54,360 --> 01:59:56,600
Speaker 9: He knocks someone out who I think is way better

2650
01:59:56,680 --> 01:59:59,200
Speaker 9: than Malachey. I love the Boston accent. I hope I

2651
01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:02,040
Speaker 9: did that. Just I don't see how he doesn't finish

2652
02:00:02,120 --> 02:00:05,240
Speaker 9: Malarkey here. You know, Malarkey's tough, he's been around for

2653
02:00:05,360 --> 02:00:08,840
Speaker 9: a while. But I think Kientlyn's gonna land one shot

2654
02:00:08,880 --> 02:00:10,320
Speaker 9: and it's gonna be done. He could take him down

2655
02:00:10,320 --> 02:00:12,880
Speaker 9: in something if he wants, but he's getting He loves

2656
02:00:12,920 --> 02:00:16,240
Speaker 9: striking and Malarkey he's gonna try to wrestle. I just

2657
02:00:16,320 --> 02:00:19,520
Speaker 9: don't see this going anywhere good for him. I think

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02:00:20,080 --> 02:00:22,840
Speaker 9: Mallarky's gonna be sent in the shadow realm really really

2659
02:00:22,920 --> 02:00:26,160
Speaker 9: quick and another showing out golden moment for kin Lean,

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02:00:26,640 --> 02:00:27,360
Speaker 9: especially at home.

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02:00:27,400 --> 02:00:28,600
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a big moment for him.

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02:00:29,160 --> 02:00:32,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, Quillan Sal killed can flow out of perth wa.

2663
02:00:32,760 --> 02:00:35,320
Speaker 7: So the greatest thing that ever happened to me in

2664
02:00:35,400 --> 02:00:38,480
Speaker 7: my commentary career was the fact that Quillan Sal killed

2665
02:00:38,640 --> 02:00:42,280
Speaker 7: after knocking out Nasrat hack Press shortly after I mentioned

2666
02:00:42,320 --> 02:00:44,240
Speaker 7: that hack Press family owned a bakery that he got

2667
02:00:44,280 --> 02:00:47,840
Speaker 7: an angry baker tattooed on his foot. I mean, when

2668
02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:51,320
Speaker 7: I see both fighter meeting and he shows me the

2669
02:00:51,400 --> 02:00:57,440
Speaker 7: angry baker tattooed on his I might cry, Uh. Jamie mclarkey,

2670
02:00:57,440 --> 02:00:59,120
Speaker 7: who's an all around good egg, but it would appear

2671
02:00:59,120 --> 02:01:00,960
Speaker 7: on paper candy that Larky is up against it. What

2672
02:01:01,040 --> 02:01:02,160
Speaker 7: are your thoughts on the lightweights?

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02:01:02,760 --> 02:01:05,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, he is. He definitely is up against it. Not why,

2674
02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:08,520
Speaker 8: because you know Marky. I think the best part of.

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02:01:08,520 --> 02:01:10,640
Speaker 3: His game is the fact that he can strike right,

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02:01:11,440 --> 02:01:14,440
Speaker 3: But I don't think he wants to strike or stay

2677
02:01:15,320 --> 02:01:17,400
Speaker 3: on the feet too long against someone like Seal Killed.

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02:01:17,640 --> 02:01:20,280
Speaker 8: I think that he will probably be forced to and

2679
02:01:20,480 --> 02:01:21,960
Speaker 8: ultimately pay the price.

2680
02:01:22,440 --> 02:01:26,879
Speaker 3: I think Seal Killed is extremely skilled. His last knockout

2681
02:01:27,200 --> 02:01:30,520
Speaker 3: was unreal, and I think he's most likely going to

2682
02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:31,360
Speaker 3: get another one here.

2683
02:01:32,160 --> 02:01:35,360
Speaker 7: At Jamie Malarkey though, genetically built to take a shot, right,

2684
02:01:35,680 --> 02:01:38,560
Speaker 7: He's tough. He's like Minecraft out there. Right, it's like

2685
02:01:38,640 --> 02:01:39,160
Speaker 7: a square.

2686
02:01:39,720 --> 02:01:42,560
Speaker 9: No, he's got the chin of mister incredible, but not

2687
02:01:42,760 --> 02:01:45,360
Speaker 9: the exact it's a little glass these days.

2688
02:01:45,400 --> 02:01:47,800
Speaker 8: But he does got like a really strong change.

2689
02:01:47,840 --> 02:01:50,680
Speaker 9: Heals commercials they want to build your jawline.

2690
02:01:50,760 --> 02:01:51,200
Speaker 6: He has it.

2691
02:01:51,680 --> 02:01:54,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I and a lot of people when they're

2692
02:01:54,680 --> 02:01:56,960
Speaker 7: attacking a card. I know for my twin brother, like

2693
02:01:57,040 --> 02:01:59,360
Speaker 7: his jumping off point is to see what your bets

2694
02:01:59,400 --> 02:02:02,760
Speaker 7: are and I don't know how you handicap tied Tuivasa

2695
02:02:02,840 --> 02:02:05,800
Speaker 7: after this type of layoffs. So he's fighting here against

2696
02:02:05,880 --> 02:02:08,560
Speaker 7: Talison to share to share right now monus two ninety

2697
02:02:08,840 --> 02:02:12,360
Speaker 7: Tui Vasa's plus two thirty five first appearance for tysonce

2698
02:02:12,440 --> 02:02:15,480
Speaker 7: UFC three to H five that was August twenty twenty four,

2699
02:02:15,560 --> 02:02:19,760
Speaker 7: split decision loss to Jarzenyo Rosenstrike. It was his fifth

2700
02:02:19,800 --> 02:02:23,240
Speaker 7: straight loss. Now you look at the name's gone, Padlovich Bolkov.

2701
02:02:23,320 --> 02:02:27,200
Speaker 7: Tabora bigie boy, but it's been a long time. Last

2702
02:02:27,240 --> 02:02:29,360
Speaker 7: win for him came against Derek Lewis four years ago,

2703
02:02:29,400 --> 02:02:31,960
Speaker 7: and now he's fighting the six foot seven inch lesser

2704
02:02:32,000 --> 02:02:34,640
Speaker 7: experienced Talis and to Shira, had he handicapped the big

2705
02:02:34,680 --> 02:02:37,120
Speaker 7: man ip well, that split.

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02:02:36,960 --> 02:02:38,960
Speaker 9: Decision loss we all know is BS state. I don't

2707
02:02:38,960 --> 02:02:40,760
Speaker 9: even know what round he won in that fight. If

2708
02:02:40,800 --> 02:02:42,320
Speaker 9: we go back and watch that, that was one of

2709
02:02:42,400 --> 02:02:44,440
Speaker 9: the one of the judges must have had a split

2710
02:02:44,520 --> 02:02:46,240
Speaker 9: decision prop on that one, because.

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02:02:46,040 --> 02:02:46,600
Speaker 5: That was wild.

2712
02:02:47,360 --> 02:02:49,680
Speaker 9: I think he's getting knocked out by Talisan Tshera. You know,

2713
02:02:49,800 --> 02:02:52,280
Speaker 9: Tishera got rushed into that Derek Lewis fight. I think

2714
02:02:52,320 --> 02:02:54,280
Speaker 9: because of just momentum and trying to fill the cart

2715
02:02:54,280 --> 02:02:56,560
Speaker 9: a little bit. I think it's just tailor made for him.

2716
02:02:56,760 --> 02:02:59,280
Speaker 9: He could use his reach. He's got the power too.

2717
02:02:59,320 --> 02:03:00,760
Speaker 9: E Vasa so much much time out of there. I

2718
02:03:00,800 --> 02:03:03,240
Speaker 9: don't know what type of evolution his game he's gonna

2719
02:03:03,280 --> 02:03:06,320
Speaker 9: have or I know, Kenny, I remember improvement in his skills,

2720
02:03:06,400 --> 02:03:08,960
Speaker 9: not so much evolution. See, I remember everything we talked about.

2721
02:03:09,360 --> 02:03:12,160
Speaker 9: And uh, you know, for Tie, it's just listen. We

2722
02:03:12,240 --> 02:03:14,440
Speaker 9: all love Tie, especially in the heavyweight division. They can

2723
02:03:14,520 --> 02:03:17,200
Speaker 9: keep him on the roster forever and will always love

2724
02:03:17,240 --> 02:03:20,160
Speaker 9: his intro, will love his style. He's getting knocked out bad.

2725
02:03:20,240 --> 02:03:22,040
Speaker 9: I wouldn't be shocked if it happened in round one.

2726
02:03:22,800 --> 02:03:26,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, So to share, Kenny, he turned pro October of

2727
02:03:26,800 --> 02:03:31,000
Speaker 7: twenty twenty one, so still very much a developing fighter.

2728
02:03:31,160 --> 02:03:33,480
Speaker 7: Was undefeated, of course, until the Black Beast got him

2729
02:03:33,680 --> 02:03:36,240
Speaker 7: last July. What do you make of the heavyweights? To

2730
02:03:36,280 --> 02:03:37,480
Speaker 7: share about three to one right now?

2731
02:03:38,320 --> 02:03:40,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, man, it's te chewy Vosa.

2732
02:03:40,480 --> 02:03:40,600
Speaker 10: Man.

2733
02:03:40,640 --> 02:03:44,920
Speaker 3: He's very good, very good guy, very danger good to

2734
02:03:45,000 --> 02:03:50,000
Speaker 3: strike man, shade of me, very.

2735
02:03:51,480 --> 02:03:52,000
Speaker 8: Very gooch.

2736
02:03:52,200 --> 02:03:54,560
Speaker 3: I think now listen, man to share, I think I

2737
02:03:54,640 --> 02:03:56,880
Speaker 3: think he's got this one. He's a he's a really

2738
02:03:56,960 --> 02:04:00,760
Speaker 3: good striker. He's tall, he's lanky. Uh Vasa he's been

2739
02:04:00,800 --> 02:04:02,720
Speaker 3: in a lot of wars. I think that he's got

2740
02:04:02,760 --> 02:04:04,920
Speaker 3: a shot. He's got a shot because he's got power

2741
02:04:05,080 --> 02:04:07,160
Speaker 3: and he's definitely not going to be shy to trade.

2742
02:04:07,960 --> 02:04:09,360
Speaker 3: But I don't think he wants to do that against

2743
02:04:09,360 --> 02:04:11,560
Speaker 3: someone like tish Era for too long. I think Tishad

2744
02:04:11,720 --> 02:04:15,800
Speaker 3: is going to be the more skilled fighter, and yeah,

2745
02:04:15,840 --> 02:04:16,960
Speaker 3: I see him picking them apart.

2746
02:04:18,120 --> 02:04:20,800
Speaker 7: Fighter meetings should be pretty telling with ty Tuyvasa, just

2747
02:04:20,840 --> 02:04:23,200
Speaker 7: in terms of his commitment. Did he go train in Dubai?

2748
02:04:23,360 --> 02:04:25,400
Speaker 7: Did he stay close to home? Usually when Ti tui

2749
02:04:25,440 --> 02:04:28,120
Speaker 7: Vasa has realized success, he has left the family. He

2750
02:04:28,160 --> 02:04:31,080
Speaker 7: has got a Dubai two United Arab Emirates to train.

2751
02:04:31,240 --> 02:04:33,960
Speaker 7: So we'll see what this training camp held for Ty

2752
02:04:34,080 --> 02:04:38,160
Speaker 7: Bam Bam Tuivasa. All right, featured bout in the lightweight division.

2753
02:04:38,440 --> 02:04:41,280
Speaker 7: Mauricio Hoofi. I know how fun it is to say

2754
02:04:41,320 --> 02:04:43,960
Speaker 7: fucking Roofie, but we can't say it anymore. Mauricio Hoofie

2755
02:04:44,160 --> 02:04:46,640
Speaker 7: minus won twenty five Rafael Phazi plus one oh five.

2756
02:04:46,800 --> 02:04:50,320
Speaker 7: So Hoofi I would say humbled by Ben was antony

2757
02:04:50,600 --> 02:04:52,720
Speaker 7: and that was in Paris back in September. He got

2758
02:04:52,800 --> 02:04:55,960
Speaker 7: face cranked all the way back to South Polo. Now

2759
02:04:56,040 --> 02:04:58,360
Speaker 7: I sent you guys the odds. He was the he

2760
02:04:58,520 --> 02:05:02,040
Speaker 7: was the slight underdog against his Now he's the slight favorite.

2761
02:05:02,080 --> 02:05:03,800
Speaker 7: So some movement here. What do you make of the lightweight?

2762
02:05:03,840 --> 02:05:06,960
Speaker 8: See, he was face cracked all the way back.

2763
02:05:07,040 --> 02:05:09,080
Speaker 9: He was so face cracked out to leave his fight team.

2764
02:05:10,320 --> 02:05:14,120
Speaker 9: You know, it's I mean, my god, It's like I

2765
02:05:14,160 --> 02:05:16,720
Speaker 9: couldn't bet he's sitting there going. No one taught me

2766
02:05:16,760 --> 02:05:18,120
Speaker 9: how to do this in the fighting nerds.

2767
02:05:18,160 --> 02:05:18,760
Speaker 4: This is terrible.

2768
02:05:19,760 --> 02:05:23,560
Speaker 9: Look, I don't This is a tough fight for him too,

2769
02:05:23,720 --> 02:05:25,600
Speaker 9: obviously a little bit more tailor me because I don't

2770
02:05:25,600 --> 02:05:30,120
Speaker 9: see Physibe using wrestling. I'm shocked he's the underdog though,

2771
02:05:30,240 --> 02:05:32,920
Speaker 9: I don't know. We haven't seen who they lose and

2772
02:05:33,040 --> 02:05:34,920
Speaker 9: have to face adversity and then come back and fight

2773
02:05:35,040 --> 02:05:38,160
Speaker 9: someone who can give him a lot of trouble here too,

2774
02:05:38,600 --> 02:05:41,440
Speaker 9: I'm going with the underdog here, you know, until hoof,

2775
02:05:41,440 --> 02:05:44,680
Speaker 9: he really shows us that it wasn't more of a

2776
02:05:44,760 --> 02:05:48,120
Speaker 9: hype thing. It's lesser fighters. I mean, Physibe I think

2777
02:05:48,240 --> 02:05:51,080
Speaker 9: is the better striker, more experienced. He could take out

2778
02:05:51,120 --> 02:05:54,040
Speaker 9: his legs if he can get past that reach. Otherwise,

2779
02:05:55,400 --> 02:05:57,600
Speaker 9: you know, I don't. I thought it was gonna be

2780
02:05:57,640 --> 02:05:59,160
Speaker 9: a little bit of like a minus one ten on

2781
02:05:59,240 --> 02:06:01,240
Speaker 9: each side, right if Fa'sivee coming off his loss to

2782
02:06:01,280 --> 02:06:04,160
Speaker 9: Gai Chee, but that's still a loss to Gaigie where

2783
02:06:04,160 --> 02:06:06,880
Speaker 9: he took the first round or second round. Yeah, I'm

2784
02:06:06,920 --> 02:06:08,800
Speaker 9: going with the underdog here. I don't lie Hoopy as

2785
02:06:08,800 --> 02:06:10,880
Speaker 9: a favorite in this fight. I don't care about striker striker.

2786
02:06:11,120 --> 02:06:12,920
Speaker 9: This is a proven to me from Hoofy and this

2787
02:06:13,080 --> 02:06:13,960
Speaker 9: is not an easy task.

2788
02:06:14,880 --> 02:06:16,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's nicely laid out. I was way off. I

2789
02:06:17,040 --> 02:06:20,320
Speaker 7: wrote down Rafael Phasiv minus one point eighty when I.

2790
02:06:20,760 --> 02:06:22,240
Speaker 9: Don't disagree, I really know so.

2791
02:06:23,000 --> 02:06:26,280
Speaker 7: I think for physive injuries oftentimes are part of the narrative.

2792
02:06:26,280 --> 02:06:28,600
Speaker 7: You don't know the relative health of his knees, his

2793
02:06:28,720 --> 02:06:32,720
Speaker 7: lower half. But Kenny, he's just such a special striker

2794
02:06:33,440 --> 02:06:37,200
Speaker 7: and so quick twitch. You know the Ignacio Botamundas winning

2795
02:06:37,240 --> 02:06:40,120
Speaker 7: Azerbaijan last June halts a three fight skit. It's crazy

2796
02:06:40,160 --> 02:06:42,000
Speaker 7: to think of Physiv ever losing three in a row.

2797
02:06:42,960 --> 02:06:44,840
Speaker 7: Big fight here at fifty five, Kenny, who takes it?

2798
02:06:46,080 --> 02:06:48,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Faziv is a special striker and he's

2799
02:06:48,280 --> 02:06:51,080
Speaker 3: a special athlete as well, you know, the fact that

2800
02:06:51,200 --> 02:06:54,480
Speaker 3: he already is integrating takedowns that are pretty high level

2801
02:06:54,560 --> 02:06:56,600
Speaker 3: I think shows what kind of athlete he is and

2802
02:06:56,680 --> 02:06:58,360
Speaker 3: what kind of martial artis he is. He's working on

2803
02:06:58,440 --> 02:07:01,400
Speaker 3: his game, he's trying to get better. Uh, Mauricio Hoofy.

2804
02:07:02,760 --> 02:07:05,480
Speaker 3: You know, if you ask me what his chances were

2805
02:07:05,800 --> 02:07:08,240
Speaker 3: prior to that last fight against Ben was Antony, I

2806
02:07:08,280 --> 02:07:11,400
Speaker 3: would say hoofy all day. I think that this guy

2807
02:07:11,520 --> 02:07:14,640
Speaker 3: has a ton of potential. Talk about athleticism, talk about

2808
02:07:14,720 --> 02:07:16,560
Speaker 3: willingness to want to, you know, throw a lot of

2809
02:07:16,600 --> 02:07:18,640
Speaker 3: flashy moves in there. I think that indicates a whole

2810
02:07:18,680 --> 02:07:21,360
Speaker 3: lot of confidence. But after that Ben was Antony fight,

2811
02:07:22,040 --> 02:07:24,200
Speaker 3: he has a long way to go when it comes

2812
02:07:24,240 --> 02:07:26,480
Speaker 3: to the grappling, and that is not something that just

2813
02:07:27,080 --> 02:07:31,360
Speaker 3: gets better camp to camp. It takes a lot of time,

2814
02:07:31,480 --> 02:07:33,840
Speaker 3: and now that the blueprint is out on how to

2815
02:07:33,920 --> 02:07:37,240
Speaker 3: beat someone like that, I don't love that for him

2816
02:07:37,320 --> 02:07:38,480
Speaker 3: and Physivee.

2817
02:07:38,080 --> 02:07:39,520
Speaker 8: You just look at the way, you know, look at

2818
02:07:39,520 --> 02:07:41,240
Speaker 8: the guys that they faced in the UFC.

2819
02:07:41,520 --> 02:07:44,760
Speaker 3: It's just you know, you're talking about Phyzivee, who's faced

2820
02:07:44,880 --> 02:07:47,880
Speaker 3: Rafael Dosanjos Brad Ordell, Bobby Green, you know all these

2821
02:07:47,920 --> 02:07:52,080
Speaker 3: other guys, Bob Wonde, you know, and Rufie, Jamie Malarkey,

2822
02:07:52,280 --> 02:07:55,320
Speaker 3: Ryman Maggo Metal Layoff and that's it. Like that's pretty

2823
02:07:55,400 --> 02:07:58,000
Speaker 3: much it. And Ben was Antony is a really tough out,

2824
02:07:58,080 --> 02:08:01,040
Speaker 3: no question about it. But I don't know what his

2825
02:08:01,160 --> 02:08:03,640
Speaker 3: management and what his coaches are thinking taking this fight

2826
02:08:03,720 --> 02:08:05,800
Speaker 3: against physive I really don't.

2827
02:08:06,000 --> 02:08:08,040
Speaker 8: I like Physivee here and I like him big.

2828
02:08:08,640 --> 02:08:11,200
Speaker 7: All right, phyziv' right now plus one oh five on

2829
02:08:11,400 --> 02:08:14,480
Speaker 7: DraftKings sportsbook that brings us to the comin event at lightweight.

2830
02:08:14,520 --> 02:08:18,560
Speaker 7: The aforementioned Ben Walstony minus three twenty five continues his

2831
02:08:18,720 --> 02:08:21,320
Speaker 7: seek and destroy mission here against Dan the Hangman Hooker,

2832
02:08:21,320 --> 02:08:23,960
Speaker 7: who is plus two sixty. How about Stony?

2833
02:08:24,240 --> 02:08:24,360
Speaker 1: Right?

2834
02:08:24,600 --> 02:08:29,040
Speaker 7: I mean, what a response to a tough twenty twenty

2835
02:08:29,160 --> 02:08:32,280
Speaker 7: four one of the true breakout guys last year three

2836
02:08:32,360 --> 02:08:35,640
Speaker 7: and oh on the year beat Hoofy then benil dar

2837
02:08:35,760 --> 02:08:38,880
Speaker 7: Yush in the fourth quarter. Probably as close to a

2838
02:08:38,960 --> 02:08:40,880
Speaker 7: title shot ean as he's ever been. He's about a

2839
02:08:40,880 --> 02:08:43,120
Speaker 7: three to one favorite here against Dan Hooker this weekend

2840
02:08:43,560 --> 02:08:46,760
Speaker 7: in enemy territory, which you know he thrives in what

2841
02:08:46,880 --> 02:08:49,800
Speaker 7: he make is santany here against Dan Hooker kid, Well.

2842
02:08:49,800 --> 02:08:51,880
Speaker 9: I love that a guy like this has bounced back

2843
02:08:51,960 --> 02:08:55,480
Speaker 9: after the Poorier fight, because there there was something about him.

2844
02:08:55,520 --> 02:08:57,960
Speaker 9: There is something about him that the kids call it, right,

2845
02:08:58,040 --> 02:09:01,280
Speaker 9: the aura. I mean, he's got that intimidation factor. He

2846
02:09:01,360 --> 02:09:04,160
Speaker 9: goes out there and he fights like an absolute psychopath,

2847
02:09:04,240 --> 02:09:06,560
Speaker 9: but kind of controlled as well. And I think what

2848
02:09:06,680 --> 02:09:10,000
Speaker 9: we saw against Hoofy before the dar Usch fight was like,

2849
02:09:10,040 --> 02:09:12,480
Speaker 9: all right, he's back, right, He's going back to what

2850
02:09:12,640 --> 02:09:15,280
Speaker 9: he's really good at, which is closing the distance, taking

2851
02:09:15,320 --> 02:09:17,120
Speaker 9: you down and just making you wish that you were

2852
02:09:17,200 --> 02:09:19,720
Speaker 9: not alive. And that is I mean that was just

2853
02:09:19,840 --> 02:09:21,880
Speaker 9: like Hoofy couldn't get out of there fast enough right

2854
02:09:21,920 --> 02:09:24,520
Speaker 9: when that was all happening. I kind of think he's

2855
02:09:24,560 --> 02:09:27,520
Speaker 9: getting Dan Hooker at the best time also, right armand

2856
02:09:27,600 --> 02:09:30,920
Speaker 9: just went out there, dismantled them, subbed him. I kind

2857
02:09:30,920 --> 02:09:32,880
Speaker 9: of think Satany's going to use that same blueprint. And

2858
02:09:32,960 --> 02:09:35,800
Speaker 9: you got Dan Hooker, who everyone loves to watch fight.

2859
02:09:35,880 --> 02:09:37,480
Speaker 9: But now he's saying, if I would have focused on

2860
02:09:37,600 --> 02:09:40,120
Speaker 9: business instead of fighting, I would have been way wealthier,

2861
02:09:40,200 --> 02:09:42,280
Speaker 9: better for my family. So it's kind of all these

2862
02:09:42,360 --> 02:09:44,760
Speaker 9: things are falling into place. The line on here. I

2863
02:09:44,800 --> 02:09:47,600
Speaker 9: think he's a three to one favorite, rightfully, so give

2864
02:09:47,640 --> 02:09:50,600
Speaker 9: me Santanita win by submission. I can't imagine he's going

2865
02:09:50,680 --> 02:09:53,080
Speaker 9: to stand and bang and give Hooker any opportunity here.

2866
02:09:53,520 --> 02:09:55,840
Speaker 9: The blue print's been there. Everyone who's beating Hooker takes

2867
02:09:55,920 --> 02:09:58,720
Speaker 9: him down, subs him. Santani's gonna come out. And what

2868
02:09:58,760 --> 02:10:00,600
Speaker 9: do you called him up? The Prince war, god of

2869
02:10:00,680 --> 02:10:02,560
Speaker 9: war whenever he wants to call himself. I'm not gonna

2870
02:10:02,560 --> 02:10:05,440
Speaker 9: call him anything different because I'm terrified of him. But jeez,

2871
02:10:05,560 --> 02:10:08,400
Speaker 9: he's he's gonna absolutely just he's gonna dominate this fight.

2872
02:10:08,520 --> 02:10:10,400
Speaker 8: He's not the Prince of peace, He's not the Prince

2873
02:10:10,440 --> 02:10:11,200
Speaker 8: of No. No, no.

2874
02:10:12,680 --> 02:10:16,200
Speaker 9: That he called him the olive Branch captain.

2875
02:10:16,720 --> 02:10:21,400
Speaker 7: No. I mean, he is so intimidating, he really is.

2876
02:10:21,720 --> 02:10:24,280
Speaker 7: I asked him to come on the Anakin Florian podcast

2877
02:10:24,360 --> 02:10:27,560
Speaker 7: one time, and I think he sent an audio message

2878
02:10:27,560 --> 02:10:29,160
Speaker 7: back to me that he thought it would be better

2879
02:10:29,280 --> 02:10:31,240
Speaker 7: after the fight. And I thought you were gonna say

2880
02:10:31,280 --> 02:10:35,400
Speaker 7: he was like, no, he didn't come on the show,

2881
02:10:35,520 --> 02:10:39,720
Speaker 7: so maybe it was not yet, But my goodness, man,

2882
02:10:39,760 --> 02:10:42,160
Speaker 7: I mean, and there was a time during gae Chee

2883
02:10:42,160 --> 02:10:44,600
Speaker 7: pimblet where I'm thinking, man, I wonder what either of

2884
02:10:44,680 --> 02:10:47,840
Speaker 7: these men would do with Ben was somethin he Right now,

2885
02:10:47,880 --> 02:10:49,839
Speaker 7: I think this guy's gonna fight for the lightweight championship

2886
02:10:49,840 --> 02:10:52,240
Speaker 7: at some point in time. So yeah, Ian mentioned Kenny

2887
02:10:52,320 --> 02:10:54,680
Speaker 7: Dan Hooker's recent loss to Urmont sour Gian and Quitar

2888
02:10:54,760 --> 02:10:57,800
Speaker 7: that was only two months ago. Hooker did have momentum

2889
02:10:57,880 --> 02:10:59,560
Speaker 7: going in there, he had won three in a row,

2890
02:10:59,720 --> 02:11:02,520
Speaker 7: but odds makers suggestive that he's up against it here

2891
02:11:02,560 --> 02:11:04,360
Speaker 7: against Ben was Anthony Kenny, who do you like in

2892
02:11:04,400 --> 02:11:04,800
Speaker 7: the Komen?

2893
02:11:05,480 --> 02:11:08,280
Speaker 3: This is obviously a very tough stylistic matchup for Dan

2894
02:11:08,360 --> 02:11:12,120
Speaker 3: Hooker given the fact that Ben Waacentini is a very

2895
02:11:12,160 --> 02:11:15,440
Speaker 3: good grappler. Uh and, like Ian said, is going back

2896
02:11:15,480 --> 02:11:18,320
Speaker 3: to his grappling roots to get it done. But I

2897
02:11:18,400 --> 02:11:20,440
Speaker 3: do think Dan's got a shot. You know, he is

2898
02:11:20,760 --> 02:11:23,879
Speaker 3: a little unorthodox with his striking, which can be difficult

2899
02:11:23,920 --> 02:11:27,000
Speaker 3: for some people in regards to finding your timing.

2900
02:11:27,600 --> 02:11:27,720
Speaker 1: Uh.

2901
02:11:28,000 --> 02:11:29,960
Speaker 8: Dan is certainly not gonna give up easy.

2902
02:11:30,800 --> 02:11:33,120
Speaker 3: He's also gonna be very motivated to get a win

2903
02:11:33,240 --> 02:11:37,080
Speaker 3: coming off a loss against Armand However, you know, if fighting,

2904
02:11:37,240 --> 02:11:40,440
Speaker 3: if fighting one of the Dagaistanis is like fighting like

2905
02:11:40,680 --> 02:11:43,840
Speaker 3: in a meat grinder. Fighting Ben was Antony is like

2906
02:11:44,360 --> 02:11:47,640
Speaker 3: you know fighting, you know, getting caught in a washing machine. Yeah,

2907
02:11:47,720 --> 02:11:50,200
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, you're just getting tossed around. You

2908
02:11:50,240 --> 02:11:52,480
Speaker 3: don't know what the hell is going on upside down,

2909
02:11:52,640 --> 02:11:54,960
Speaker 3: you know, left right. It's like, you know, he is

2910
02:11:55,200 --> 02:11:59,760
Speaker 3: just an absolute murderer, and you know it may not

2911
02:11:59,880 --> 02:12:03,360
Speaker 3: be the prettiest thing, but he will man handle you

2912
02:12:03,480 --> 02:12:06,280
Speaker 3: and get it done by any means necessary, even if

2913
02:12:06,320 --> 02:12:08,960
Speaker 3: it means, you know, having to choke through your face.

2914
02:12:09,080 --> 02:12:11,320
Speaker 8: So I like Ben Wis Anthony here.

2915
02:12:11,720 --> 02:12:14,440
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna get hit the takedown, get into

2916
02:12:14,480 --> 02:12:17,960
Speaker 3: a rhythm, you know, ground hooker down, and then eventually

2917
02:12:18,000 --> 02:12:21,040
Speaker 3: get a submission. But I do think Dan's got a chance.

2918
02:12:21,080 --> 02:12:24,720
Speaker 3: I think it's probably early though. All right, nicely done

2919
02:12:24,760 --> 02:12:25,640
Speaker 3: on the comin event.

2920
02:12:25,840 --> 02:12:27,680
Speaker 7: Now we get to the main event, the rematch for

2921
02:12:27,720 --> 02:12:30,880
Speaker 7: the undisputed UFC Featherweight Championship. I will be hosting the

2922
02:12:30,920 --> 02:12:33,600
Speaker 7: press conference at UFC three twenty five, and I do

2923
02:12:33,800 --> 02:12:37,120
Speaker 7: hope in some part that Diego Lopez's candidacy comes up,

2924
02:12:37,240 --> 02:12:40,400
Speaker 7: because even though you can argue Laren Murphy and mavsar

2925
02:12:40,480 --> 02:12:44,800
Speaker 7: Ivloyev in a straight meritocracy deserve this opportunity. Diego Lopez

2926
02:12:44,840 --> 02:12:47,240
Speaker 7: has stepped up for the UFC in so many unique

2927
02:12:47,280 --> 02:12:49,280
Speaker 7: ways in such a short amount of time. He had

2928
02:12:49,320 --> 02:12:53,360
Speaker 7: no business taking that Dan Egay fight on an hour's notice, right,

2929
02:12:53,520 --> 02:12:56,200
Speaker 7: So I do think that if the promoter led the

2930
02:12:56,320 --> 02:12:59,200
Speaker 7: dance talking about all the things that Diego Lopez has

2931
02:12:59,240 --> 02:13:02,080
Speaker 7: done to establish that goodwill, the fan base wouldn't be

2932
02:13:02,120 --> 02:13:05,280
Speaker 7: talking as much about why he's getting this second crack. Anyway,

2933
02:13:05,880 --> 02:13:07,800
Speaker 7: I'm most interested to see what he can do with

2934
02:13:07,880 --> 02:13:10,240
Speaker 7: it because Ian right now he's plus one thirty six

2935
02:13:10,320 --> 02:13:14,080
Speaker 7: and Alexander Volkanowski is minus one sixty two, which suggests

2936
02:13:14,080 --> 02:13:15,760
Speaker 7: that maybe the fight's going to be closer than the

2937
02:13:15,840 --> 02:13:19,000
Speaker 7: first one, which I didn't think was particularly close. Bulk

2938
02:13:19,120 --> 02:13:22,160
Speaker 7: hasn't fought since Lopez, obviously, with the big win against

2939
02:13:22,200 --> 02:13:25,720
Speaker 7: Jean Silva at Noce UFC last September, had a handicap

2940
02:13:25,760 --> 02:13:28,160
Speaker 7: the rematching in Parker. The Floor's yours well.

2941
02:13:28,240 --> 02:13:31,080
Speaker 9: A compliments to Diego Lopez on having better hair than

2942
02:13:31,120 --> 02:13:33,920
Speaker 9: me and Kenny. That doesn't happen very often in this sport.

2943
02:13:34,280 --> 02:13:36,160
Speaker 9: My barber messed up. He actually kind of gave me

2944
02:13:36,160 --> 02:13:38,320
Speaker 9: a little bit of a weird year. Wow, I don't

2945
02:13:38,320 --> 02:13:40,120
Speaker 9: know if I'm ever gonna do that again. He said

2946
02:13:40,160 --> 02:13:42,400
Speaker 9: it was a cool. Yeah, I don't really know what

2947
02:13:42,560 --> 02:13:48,680
Speaker 9: this is kind of I mean, I don't they call

2948
02:13:48,760 --> 02:13:51,840
Speaker 9: it a burst fade. I don't know why. You know,

2949
02:13:52,440 --> 02:13:54,200
Speaker 9: it's kind of like the thing. So if he wins,

2950
02:13:54,240 --> 02:13:56,880
Speaker 9: this is cool. If he loses, you may not ask

2951
02:13:56,960 --> 02:13:59,760
Speaker 9: me back. So I man, I've lost that.

2952
02:13:59,840 --> 02:14:00,760
Speaker 5: Role real quick.

2953
02:14:01,720 --> 02:14:04,640
Speaker 7: Like the burst bade on you. I appreciate it.

2954
02:14:05,360 --> 02:14:07,400
Speaker 9: Age forty be able to do a burst shade, I

2955
02:14:07,480 --> 02:14:10,400
Speaker 9: will take it. And you know, last time I was

2956
02:14:10,440 --> 02:14:12,600
Speaker 9: on the show, I was a lot fucking fatter. So

2957
02:14:12,840 --> 02:14:16,280
Speaker 9: we're really we're glowing up here. I really have to

2958
02:14:16,320 --> 02:14:20,800
Speaker 9: make a comeback here. So the last fight, candidly I

2959
02:14:20,920 --> 02:14:24,960
Speaker 9: took Diego Lopez and John. To your point, it really

2960
02:14:25,120 --> 02:14:28,800
Speaker 9: wasn't close. I also thought that Diego fought not like

2961
02:14:28,880 --> 02:14:32,160
Speaker 9: Diego Lopez. There was no urgency, there was no forward

2962
02:14:32,600 --> 02:14:35,200
Speaker 9: pressure or there wasn't. He didn't throw anything. I hate

2963
02:14:35,240 --> 02:14:37,160
Speaker 9: that he rubs his neck like that. Whatever that ticke

2964
02:14:37,240 --> 02:14:39,080
Speaker 9: is that he does, it just takes.

2965
02:14:39,120 --> 02:14:41,640
Speaker 7: It's just so it's strange to tell you what it is.

2966
02:14:42,680 --> 02:14:44,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, you mentioned it on the broadcast please.

2967
02:14:45,800 --> 02:14:49,520
Speaker 7: So he had an accident, Okay, I got cut there

2968
02:14:49,600 --> 02:14:52,400
Speaker 7: as a kid, and so once he starts to perspire,

2969
02:14:52,520 --> 02:14:53,480
Speaker 7: it starts to itch.

2970
02:14:55,200 --> 02:14:56,760
Speaker 9: So you powder on it or something?

2971
02:14:56,880 --> 02:14:59,680
Speaker 7: Oh no, I know. But anyway, as you were, no,

2972
02:14:59,880 --> 02:15:00,880
Speaker 7: I I just figured, like.

2973
02:15:01,040 --> 02:15:04,000
Speaker 9: You know, professional fighter, fight for the belt. Second time,

2974
02:15:05,000 --> 02:15:08,040
Speaker 9: kids got an itch, let's fix that itch. But you know, hey,

2975
02:15:08,120 --> 02:15:11,160
Speaker 9: why not for Diego. He's got a fight like Diego,

2976
02:15:11,360 --> 02:15:13,760
Speaker 9: and if his concern is blowing the gas tank, he

2977
02:15:13,840 --> 02:15:15,720
Speaker 9: can't do it because he tried to do that that

2978
02:15:15,840 --> 02:15:17,920
Speaker 9: last fight and it gave so many openings for Vulk

2979
02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:20,480
Speaker 9: to land volume. But you saw what was a round

2980
02:15:20,600 --> 02:15:22,880
Speaker 9: three I believe where Lopez landed that shot and was

2981
02:15:22,920 --> 02:15:25,880
Speaker 9: almost able to finish him. And we know Diego has

2982
02:15:25,960 --> 02:15:28,280
Speaker 9: that type of power. The other part is he wasn't

2983
02:15:28,280 --> 02:15:30,560
Speaker 9: even trying to set up his wrestling or his ground game,

2984
02:15:30,600 --> 02:15:33,040
Speaker 9: which I do think he has an edge with Vulk.

2985
02:15:33,160 --> 02:15:35,480
Speaker 9: Volk's age has to play a factor at some point,

2986
02:15:35,560 --> 02:15:39,040
Speaker 9: even though maybe he found the fountain of youth under

2987
02:15:39,080 --> 02:15:41,560
Speaker 9: at these plus money odds. Though it's still hard to

2988
02:15:41,680 --> 02:15:44,280
Speaker 9: not take Diego right because I don't know if Vulk

2989
02:15:44,400 --> 02:15:46,560
Speaker 9: could fight any better than what he did that. I

2990
02:15:46,720 --> 02:15:49,280
Speaker 9: do think there was a lot that Lopez can do

2991
02:15:50,000 --> 02:15:52,320
Speaker 9: to make that fight closer. There was a few rounds

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02:15:52,320 --> 02:15:54,520
Speaker 9: that it would have just taken a take now with damage,

2993
02:15:54,520 --> 02:15:56,080
Speaker 9: and he could have taken the round. It wasn't like

2994
02:15:56,200 --> 02:15:58,880
Speaker 9: Vulk was doing so much, just that Diego was doing

2995
02:15:59,000 --> 02:16:01,960
Speaker 9: so little, not even giving himself a chance. And I

2996
02:16:02,200 --> 02:16:05,840
Speaker 9: truly believe, and I'm hoping Kenny agrees with me, because

2997
02:16:05,840 --> 02:16:07,480
Speaker 9: if not, and it's the opposite that I'm gonna sound

2998
02:16:07,480 --> 02:16:09,560
Speaker 9: stupid because I defer to him on all things. Knowledge.

2999
02:16:10,400 --> 02:16:12,560
Speaker 9: The conservation of energy is one thing, but when it

3000
02:16:12,640 --> 02:16:14,480
Speaker 9: takes you completely out of your game plan or what

3001
02:16:14,680 --> 02:16:17,320
Speaker 9: got you there, the results showed what would happen. So

3002
02:16:17,400 --> 02:16:21,040
Speaker 9: hopefully the cardio is there, but without compromising his style.

3003
02:16:21,080 --> 02:16:22,840
Speaker 9: But I'm gonna still take him as the underdog here.

3004
02:16:23,240 --> 02:16:24,800
Speaker 9: He's got a lot of tools. Let's see if the

3005
02:16:24,840 --> 02:16:25,600
Speaker 9: improvements are there.

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02:16:26,040 --> 02:16:28,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's really well handicapped by you. And

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02:16:28,320 --> 02:16:31,720
Speaker 7: it is interesting when you think about Volkanovsky's performance that night,

3008
02:16:32,240 --> 02:16:34,160
Speaker 7: I feel like it was one of his signature wins.

3009
02:16:34,200 --> 02:16:36,360
Speaker 7: I'm not sure he can perform much better. I'm not

3010
02:16:36,400 --> 02:16:38,480
Speaker 7: sure how many featherweights would have beat him on that

3011
02:16:38,680 --> 02:16:42,520
Speaker 7: night in Miami, and now he begins his second reign

3012
02:16:42,640 --> 02:16:45,840
Speaker 7: as the undisputed UFC Featherweight Championship against that same man,

3013
02:16:45,879 --> 02:16:50,080
Speaker 7: Diego Lopez. Ken Flow twenty five minutes scheduled this Saturday

3014
02:16:50,160 --> 02:16:53,400
Speaker 7: night on Paramount Plus. Who leaves Sydney, New South Wales

3015
02:16:53,840 --> 02:16:55,760
Speaker 7: as the featherweight km Well, I like.

3016
02:16:55,800 --> 02:16:57,800
Speaker 3: What you guys are talking about because this kind of

3017
02:16:57,879 --> 02:17:00,400
Speaker 3: leads into my perspective on this fight. And this may

3018
02:17:00,480 --> 02:17:03,920
Speaker 3: sound a little stupid, but you know, I think it

3019
02:17:03,959 --> 02:17:07,520
Speaker 3: all depends on whether Lopez is approaching this as round six,

3020
02:17:08,000 --> 02:17:10,920
Speaker 3: starting this as round six, or starting this as round one.

3021
02:17:11,320 --> 02:17:13,800
Speaker 3: Is this going to be a complete reset or has

3022
02:17:13,879 --> 02:17:16,560
Speaker 3: he learned from those first twenty five minutes and is

3023
02:17:16,600 --> 02:17:21,600
Speaker 3: approaching this like he's adjusting to this whole fight against Volkanovsky.

3024
02:17:22,400 --> 02:17:25,040
Speaker 8: The problem is Volkanovsky.

3025
02:17:24,840 --> 02:17:28,120
Speaker 3: Is unbelievable in rematches and he's done it many times,

3026
02:17:28,240 --> 02:17:32,040
Speaker 3: so he also knows how to make adjustments, and he

3027
02:17:32,200 --> 02:17:35,119
Speaker 3: happens to be one of the smartest guys in the game.

3028
02:17:35,800 --> 02:17:37,800
Speaker 3: He is older, though, and he has had a lot

3029
02:17:37,840 --> 02:17:41,720
Speaker 3: of fights. That experience is huge. But how many miles

3030
02:17:42,080 --> 02:17:44,480
Speaker 3: is on that car right now? That is the question,

3031
02:17:44,640 --> 02:17:47,320
Speaker 3: and you know, been it being in a lot of

3032
02:17:47,360 --> 02:17:51,280
Speaker 3: warrors and getting knocked out by Toporia. You know, I

3033
02:17:51,360 --> 02:17:53,920
Speaker 3: think this is kind of the perfect time for Jego

3034
02:17:53,959 --> 02:17:57,400
Speaker 3: Lopez to be fighting him. But it all comes down

3035
02:17:57,520 --> 02:18:00,680
Speaker 3: to Lopez. In my opinion, Volkanovski is going to fight

3036
02:18:00,800 --> 02:18:03,599
Speaker 3: the way that we all know him to fight, intelligently,

3037
02:18:04,240 --> 02:18:10,240
Speaker 3: with versatility, with variety, all that stuff. If Lopez gets

3038
02:18:10,320 --> 02:18:13,120
Speaker 3: off to a slow start here, I think it's just

3039
02:18:13,760 --> 02:18:16,640
Speaker 3: he's going to allow Alex to just take over. So

3040
02:18:16,720 --> 02:18:18,480
Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna have enough time because if

3041
02:18:18,520 --> 02:18:20,720
Speaker 3: Alex does get hurt, he knows how to stay, stay

3042
02:18:20,760 --> 02:18:25,280
Speaker 3: alive and clingch and do all those things. I think

3043
02:18:25,320 --> 02:18:27,760
Speaker 3: it's going to be a fantastic fight. I think Lopez

3044
02:18:27,840 --> 02:18:30,320
Speaker 3: will get off to a better start. I just think

3045
02:18:30,400 --> 02:18:33,440
Speaker 3: Volkanovsky is going to be that much better. This may be,

3046
02:18:34,040 --> 02:18:36,120
Speaker 3: you know, towards the end of his career. I don't

3047
02:18:36,120 --> 02:18:40,480
Speaker 3: think his time is over just yet. I think he

3048
02:18:40,800 --> 02:18:44,480
Speaker 3: still is extremely technical, smart and capable.

3049
02:18:45,360 --> 02:18:48,280
Speaker 8: I also like the guy. Give me Volkanovski here.

3050
02:18:49,280 --> 02:18:51,199
Speaker 7: All right, So the fellas are split on the main event,

3051
02:18:51,760 --> 02:18:54,640
Speaker 7: but what we really want to know is where they're

3052
02:18:54,640 --> 02:18:56,880
Speaker 7: actually going to put their hard earned American dollars to

3053
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Speaker 7: that end. Let us get to Place your bets. Y

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Speaker 7: get one thousand dollars to spend on UFC Fight Nights,

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Speaker 7: three thousand dollars for our numbered events, and UFC three

3060
02:19:20,040 --> 02:19:24,600
Speaker 7: twenty five qualifies. I don't think there's any handicapper out

3061
02:19:24,600 --> 02:19:27,080
Speaker 7: there quite like Ian Parker. He has realized great success

3062
02:19:27,240 --> 02:19:29,960
Speaker 7: over the last several years, and I'm very excited to

3063
02:19:30,160 --> 02:19:33,360
Speaker 7: see this inaugural card from you. You have three thousand

3064
02:19:33,400 --> 02:19:36,240
Speaker 7: dollars to spend the in where are you spreading your money?

3065
02:19:36,760 --> 02:19:37,000
Speaker 6: Wow?

3066
02:19:37,080 --> 02:19:38,800
Speaker 9: I've never done the game like this before. I was

3067
02:19:38,840 --> 02:19:40,400
Speaker 9: hoping Kenny would lead it off, so I can.

3068
02:19:42,360 --> 02:19:42,400
Speaker 4: No.

3069
02:19:42,720 --> 02:19:44,760
Speaker 9: Let's just you know, fucking throw the dock in the

3070
02:19:45,320 --> 02:19:48,720
Speaker 9: deep end of the ocean, all right, let's see, let's

3071
02:19:48,720 --> 02:19:51,960
Speaker 9: start with the main event, all right. Actually, let's go

3072
02:19:52,040 --> 02:19:55,840
Speaker 9: the other way. Let's go with Quinlin inside the distance.

3073
02:19:55,920 --> 02:19:57,200
Speaker 9: I don't know what that number is gonna be I

3074
02:19:57,240 --> 02:19:59,640
Speaker 9: think it's gonna be like minus two hundred. My guess

3075
02:20:00,080 --> 02:20:01,960
Speaker 9: if he's a minus what seven hundred, that number is

3076
02:20:02,000 --> 02:20:05,039
Speaker 9: gonna be pretty healthy. I'm gonna go a thousand bucks

3077
02:20:05,200 --> 02:20:07,400
Speaker 9: on him right there, and to get it done, you're

3078
02:20:07,440 --> 02:20:08,960
Speaker 9: gonna have to put up enough money to do that.

3079
02:20:09,440 --> 02:20:11,480
Speaker 4: What was the next one? It was? Was it Phaziv?

3080
02:20:11,520 --> 02:20:12,920
Speaker 9: And Hoofi was the next one?

3081
02:20:13,320 --> 02:20:16,039
Speaker 7: Yeah, you go anywhere you want on the entire car,

3082
02:20:16,200 --> 02:20:19,120
Speaker 7: but your first thousand dollars. Just for the record, quillin

3083
02:20:19,320 --> 02:20:21,879
Speaker 7: salt killed inside the distance.

3084
02:20:21,800 --> 02:20:22,320
Speaker 8: That's correct.

3085
02:20:22,320 --> 02:20:23,480
Speaker 9: I'm just pulling up the oddyency.

3086
02:20:23,520 --> 02:20:24,480
Speaker 4: If anything's changed.

3087
02:20:24,560 --> 02:20:27,920
Speaker 9: If I may oh talisin t Shia, let's go five

3088
02:20:28,040 --> 02:20:29,760
Speaker 9: hundred on him to win by knockout.

3089
02:20:31,760 --> 02:20:32,120
Speaker 2: Let's go.

3090
02:20:32,840 --> 02:20:35,560
Speaker 9: You know what I'm coming in hot give me give

3091
02:20:35,640 --> 02:20:41,080
Speaker 9: me fifteen hundred on Phyziv at plus money and I

3092
02:20:41,160 --> 02:20:43,560
Speaker 9: got a thousand left. Give me the hair, give me

3093
02:20:43,680 --> 02:20:47,600
Speaker 9: that may that stallion of an individual in Diego Lopez.

3094
02:20:48,160 --> 02:20:50,160
Speaker 9: I love that he has a tattoo on his chest,

3095
02:20:50,200 --> 02:20:52,520
Speaker 9: by the way, in English and it's not his first language.

3096
02:20:52,560 --> 02:20:53,680
Speaker 9: To me, that's incredible.

3097
02:20:55,280 --> 02:21:01,760
Speaker 7: So that worth thousand dollars though that much? So you

3098
02:21:01,879 --> 02:21:04,480
Speaker 7: went thousand bucks on sal Killed. Inside the distance, you

3099
02:21:04,560 --> 02:21:06,440
Speaker 7: went five hundred on Talis and to ship.

3100
02:21:06,520 --> 02:21:08,840
Speaker 9: Oh my bad, I'll go five hundred. Sorry, I'll go

3101
02:21:08,920 --> 02:21:11,480
Speaker 9: five hundred, five hundred on Diego. My apologies.

3102
02:21:12,000 --> 02:21:13,520
Speaker 7: Okay, see I was so eager.

3103
02:21:13,560 --> 02:21:15,520
Speaker 9: I was like, let's just bet more, let's just go more.

3104
02:21:16,400 --> 02:21:18,720
Speaker 7: Alright, we will try to cheat. It's only day one

3105
02:21:18,840 --> 02:21:19,320
Speaker 7: for pizza.

3106
02:21:19,320 --> 02:21:20,760
Speaker 9: I'm trying to get I'm trying to get a lead

3107
02:21:20,840 --> 02:21:23,000
Speaker 9: real quick on Kenny because I know he closes out

3108
02:21:23,040 --> 02:21:23,320
Speaker 9: the year.

3109
02:21:24,040 --> 02:21:24,280
Speaker 6: Kenny.

3110
02:21:24,360 --> 02:21:25,240
Speaker 9: Kenny's a good closer.

3111
02:21:25,560 --> 02:21:26,320
Speaker 4: He's a good closer.

3112
02:21:26,879 --> 02:21:29,640
Speaker 7: Can't flow three thousand dollars suspended UFC three twenty five.

3113
02:21:30,120 --> 02:21:30,680
Speaker 7: What are we doing?

3114
02:21:31,000 --> 02:21:31,360
Speaker 6: All right?

3115
02:21:31,360 --> 02:21:32,959
Speaker 8: I'm gonna be kind of a basic bitch here.

3116
02:21:33,959 --> 02:21:36,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna spread it out, spread it out, all right.

3117
02:21:36,160 --> 02:21:39,200
Speaker 3: So we're gonna go Tatta and sal Killed. We're gonna

3118
02:21:39,240 --> 02:21:43,439
Speaker 3: go one thousand dollars on that little parlay to like apples.

3119
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Speaker 8: Yeah, oh yeah, and then uh phyzeve, we'll give him

3120
02:21:47,959 --> 02:21:51,280
Speaker 8: a thousand put it out that move, and then a

3121
02:21:51,440 --> 02:21:52,840
Speaker 8: thousand on Volk.

3122
02:21:52,959 --> 02:21:55,960
Speaker 7: We're gonna go the other way, all right, thousand dollars

3123
02:21:55,959 --> 02:22:01,360
Speaker 7: straight way drives and parlays what heavy work. Ian, here's

3124
02:22:01,400 --> 02:22:04,800
Speaker 7: your homework for next week. Okay, you'll have one thousand

3125
02:22:04,879 --> 02:22:07,560
Speaker 7: dollars to spend on UFC Fight Night. I think it's

3126
02:22:07,680 --> 02:22:11,400
Speaker 7: Mario Bautista and venisius O Lavera. Just come with your wagers.

3127
02:22:11,440 --> 02:22:14,520
Speaker 7: But yes, you can do propositions, you can do totals,

3128
02:22:14,600 --> 02:22:17,039
Speaker 7: you can do parlays, whatever you want, but just come

3129
02:22:17,120 --> 02:22:18,480
Speaker 7: with the wagers and new era.

3130
02:22:18,640 --> 02:22:20,200
Speaker 8: I yeah, Kenny with.

3131
02:22:20,400 --> 02:22:23,240
Speaker 9: Kenny said nothing. He said nothing. He was like, oh,

3132
02:22:23,320 --> 02:22:26,279
Speaker 9: he doesn't know. Let him just go money line stupidly

3133
02:22:26,360 --> 02:22:28,600
Speaker 9: all these minus three hundreds and watch me throw the

3134
02:22:28,720 --> 02:22:32,000
Speaker 9: easiest fucking par earth. He just gave a plus one

3135
02:22:32,080 --> 02:22:33,359
Speaker 9: oh three in parlay.

3136
02:22:33,000 --> 02:22:34,000
Speaker 4: That we know is going to hit.

3137
02:22:36,680 --> 02:22:39,920
Speaker 7: We will also effort a graphic potentially with the guys plays.

3138
02:22:39,959 --> 02:22:41,840
Speaker 7: If you want more from I in Parker at Ian Parker,

3139
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Speaker 7: m m A on your social media channel channels Duck.

3140
02:22:45,040 --> 02:22:47,120
Speaker 7: Great to have you back. Outstanding job on the cap

3141
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Speaker 7: and uh we're right back at it next Monday, my men.

3142
02:22:50,080 --> 02:22:51,720
Speaker 9: I love you guys, thank you for having me back,

3143
02:22:51,800 --> 02:22:53,160
Speaker 9: and it feels really good.

3144
02:22:53,440 --> 02:22:54,600
Speaker 4: Less go there.

3145
02:22:54,640 --> 02:22:57,080
Speaker 7: He is Ian Parker, Andy Kappan for us for the

3146
02:22:57,160 --> 02:23:00,920
Speaker 7: main Event Challenge and place your bets and uh, Jason

3147
02:23:00,959 --> 02:23:03,480
Speaker 7: Anik running this whole business, probably gonna text Parker like

3148
02:23:03,520 --> 02:23:05,640
Speaker 7: you better fucking tighten up that three K. What are

3149
02:23:05,680 --> 02:23:07,240
Speaker 7: we doing at the end of the show. And actually

3150
02:23:07,560 --> 02:23:10,320
Speaker 7: I think his total that's only added up twenty five hundred,

3151
02:23:10,400 --> 02:23:13,400
Speaker 7: but we will clear that up in post. Speaking to

3152
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Speaker 7: Jason Anik. By the way, Dirty Boxing five DBX five

3153
02:23:17,240 --> 02:23:20,880
Speaker 7: on YouTube this Friday night in Houston, Texas. He'll be

3154
02:23:21,040 --> 02:23:25,920
Speaker 7: on the call with andre Berto, Brendan Tobin Platinum. Mike

3155
02:23:26,040 --> 02:23:28,560
Speaker 7: Perry will be making the round shooting tequila. I'm sure Jay,

3156
02:23:28,600 --> 02:23:30,320
Speaker 7: we'll be doing the post fight interviews check him out

3157
02:23:30,360 --> 02:23:34,040
Speaker 7: on that. Thank you to everybody at all the Smoke

3158
02:23:34,200 --> 02:23:37,359
Speaker 7: Productions and all the Smoke Fight, Brian Day and everybody

3159
02:23:37,440 --> 02:23:39,960
Speaker 7: on down Gabby, thank you so much, Nate, thanks to

3160
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Speaker 7: our guest, Dimitrius Johnson, Domina Cruz, Chris Wiman, Alex Perez,

3161
02:23:43,560 --> 02:23:47,000
Speaker 7: r J Clifford, Ray Longo, Ian Parker. Im wheels up

3162
02:23:47,040 --> 02:23:51,360
Speaker 7: to Australia here in like two hours and then we're

3163
02:23:51,400 --> 02:23:53,520
Speaker 7: gonna be recapping the piss out of UFC three twenty

3164
02:23:53,560 --> 02:23:57,000
Speaker 7: five with you next Monday in our usual slot eleven

3165
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Speaker 7: am Eastern right here on the Anakin Flooring Podcast YouTube

3166
02:23:59,720 --> 02:24:02,640
Speaker 7: channel and all the smoke fight thanks to all of

3167
02:24:02,680 --> 02:24:04,959
Speaker 7: our producers behind the scene of course, Cody Merrill are

3168
02:24:05,040 --> 02:24:07,680
Speaker 7: live producer with that for Ken Flum, John and thank

3169
02:24:07,720 --> 02:24:10,360
Speaker 7: you for watching and listen. Tell your mom, tell your friends.

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Speaker 7: We'll talk to you next Monday. Until then, yo fucking

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Speaker 7: me