1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Buck Sexton and you're listening to the 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Tutor Dixon Podcast, part of the Clay Drivers and Buck 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: Sexton podcast Network. Hello everyone, I'm Tutor Dixon and I 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: am so excited to have you joined the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: Let me start by telling you a little bit about me. 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: I started off my career in manufacturing for many years 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: before becoming a mom, and when my four little girls 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: were a little a friend asked me to step into 9 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 1: a totally different world, the media world. I had a 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: little experience in media from college and just out of college, 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: but this was a mostly totally new adventure for me. 12 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: We created a news program for middle and high school 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: students designed to focus on news of the day and 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 1: Pro America stories. And the funny thing is those Pro 15 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: America stories led me down a whole new path into politics. 16 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: As some of you may know, I was the Republican 17 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: nominee for governor in the state of Michigan last year. 18 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: I stepped away from my career completely and I campaigned 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: for about eighteen months. It was a totally incredible journey, 20 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: and not only did I learn about all the different 21 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: cultures across my beautiful state, but I met the most 22 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: amazing people as I traveled along on this journey. I 23 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: really felt that I needed to share some of those 24 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: stories with other people, and that's what inspired me to 25 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: do this podcast. And one of the people that I 26 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: met along the way was named Rick Ector, and it 27 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: was probably one of the most nerve wracking moments of 28 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: my campaign for me because Rick offers free gun training 29 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: for women, and I'm going to confess I had never 30 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: shot a gun before that day, but turns out I 31 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: was exactly who Rick was looking for because he wants 32 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: women to feel confident that they can protect themselves, and 33 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: that day I lined up with hundreds of women in 34 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: the Detroit area to learn more about how to use 35 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: a gun safely. The reason I want you to meet 36 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: Rick is because his story really touched me. It's raw, 37 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: it's true life, it's kind of superhero in the making 38 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: type of stuff. And Rick is an awesome guy. He's 39 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: not arrogant, he's not forcing other people to be on 40 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: his side, but his life changed in a moment and 41 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: he used that experience to help others learn to defend themselves. 42 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: Whatever you think about guns, I think you're going to 43 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: find Rick's story very interesting. Rick Ector is the owner 44 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: of Rick's Firearm Academy of Detroit, and I'm pleased to 45 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: have him here with me today. Rick, Welcome to the 46 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: Tutor Dixon Podcast. Hey, I thank you so very much 47 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: for having me on the show. I'm excited. I am 48 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: glad to see that you're out. You know, you're continuing 49 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 1: to share the word about what it is that we 50 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: want to accomplish in our state and across the country. 51 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: And it's an honor to be here, and I want 52 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: to thank you for having me. Well, thank you for 53 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: being here. So I want you to tell your story 54 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: because my understanding of your story you can correct me 55 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: if i'm wrong, is that you never actually owned a 56 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: gun until you were staring down the barrel of someone 57 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: else's gun, and that kind of inspired you to change 58 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: things in your life. Is that right, That's pretty close. 59 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: I had a shotgun at home that I bought at 60 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: the urging, and the advice that was given to me 61 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: by men in the family. They say, hey, you're a homeowner. 62 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: You need to have some means of defending yourself and 63 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: your family if you ever needed to do so. So 64 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: I dutatively, dutily, dutifully went to a gun range, and 65 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: I purchased the twelve Gates shotgun, bought some shells, and 66 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 1: that was all the interest I had in owning a firearm. 67 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: And that pretty much changed one day when I was 68 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: coming home from work one day at the time of 69 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: the year reminiscent of where we are now when it 70 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: gets dark early and maybe six PM or soul in 71 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: my driveway, I was accosted by two men. I did 72 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: not know they produced guns. They robbed me and fortunate 73 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: that I survived that event, but it put me on 74 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: a journey, and that journey was to learn more about 75 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: firearms and personal protection. I refused to be like other 76 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: neighbors in my community who were crime victims, who decided 77 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: to just walk away from their homes, sacrifice their equity, 78 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: and just start over somewhere else in the area. But 79 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: I continue to do that, and I learned how to 80 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: defend myself. I receive a concealed pistol license here in 81 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: the state of Michigan, started training and teaching, and man, 82 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: that took me down another rabbit hole, and I just 83 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: started doing other events. Lo and behold, today I am 84 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: the organizer of an event. We're now heading into our 85 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: twelfth year in which we give free shooting lessons to 86 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: women by the thousands. The lifetime number of women that 87 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: we have trained with the rain safety briefing and a 88 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: free shooting lesson is now at seventy five hundred and going. 89 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: And keep in mind we only do this program on 90 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: one weekend out of the year, and that is where 91 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: I learned to shoot a gun. So that was very 92 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: exciting for me because it was I'm like amazed because 93 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: I did not know that that first year you came 94 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: the year before this last one, that that was your 95 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: first time shooting. I didn't see you actually shoot then 96 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: because I was off doing other stuff. But I know 97 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: I was around for the last the last iteration, and 98 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,679 Speaker 1: I looked at your target, man, and you are amazing. True, 99 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: that's because you have such a great program. I mean, 100 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: and I'm serious, you do have a great program. Because 101 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: I was nervous, and I think that if you've never 102 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: used a gun before, I mean, I can tell you 103 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: from my personal experience, I was nervous. It's a lot 104 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: of power in your hands, and you think about that situation. 105 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: Would I'd be able to use that if I were 106 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: in that situation where I absolutely had to it as 107 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: I was walking in that line with all of these 108 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: other women, And to be honest, these were mostly black 109 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: women from Detroit who were concerned for their safety, and 110 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: they were telling me they come every year, or some 111 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: of them had brought people that were there for the 112 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: first time, and they said they just felt like it 113 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: was it was the safest thing for them to know 114 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: how to use a gun to have their own personal protection. 115 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: And we've heard there's there's kind of mixed reviews from politicians. 116 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: Some politicians and especially police chiefs will say the best 117 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: thing is for people to be able to protect themselves, 118 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: and some are saying that we should wipe out guns altogether. 119 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: But you were actually inspired by a young woman's story 120 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: who didn't make it, and that's why you did this. 121 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: Is that right? Yeah? I was watching my local newscast 122 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: and I saw a very disturbing story, at least I 123 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: felt it was. I saw a story in which it 124 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: was recounted that a woman's you know, partially new body 125 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: was discovered, you know, literally laying on the street, presumably 126 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: raped and killed. And I thought that that was a 127 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: particularly heinous crime. It really set on my heart, and 128 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: I thought, man, that someone should do something about it. 129 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: And you know, I was bold enough to talk to 130 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: a few friends about it and I say, man, we 131 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: should we should like put together program and they were like, well, 132 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,799 Speaker 1: what type of program? And I was able to pull 133 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: a few favors from various people, got some people to 134 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: help sponsor the event, got a place to donate their 135 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: range and to allow us to use their facilities, got 136 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: five six other firearms instructors to donate their time, and 137 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: we trained fifty women that year. And I was speaking 138 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: with a good friend of mine, Ken Blanchard, that runs 139 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: a website called black Men with a Gun in Open Marlborough, Maryland. 140 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: He encouraged me to continue and so we just organically 141 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: grew it year after year, and our high watermark was 142 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: at the high point of the pandemic two years ago. 143 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: We trained almost two thousand women in just one weekend. 144 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: And I've been encouraged and emboldened to go forward and 145 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: we're looking to add maybe another fifteen hundred, sixteen hundred 146 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: women is year. Wow, that's amazing. And we heard that 147 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: there was an increase in gun sales during the pandemic. 148 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: You mentioned that that was your high point for training people. 149 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: Why do you think that was I know, we've seen 150 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: a lot of it seems like we're hearing more about 151 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: violence in the news, and I think people are more 152 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: concerned about their own safety. Do you think that has 153 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: anything to do with that increase in sales? It is 154 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: the principal reason why people are exploring options to protect themselves, 155 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,679 Speaker 1: particularly when you look at some of the news media 156 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: reports from all across the country where there was a 157 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: lot of civil disturbances and cities across the country, and 158 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: they were watching law enforcement officers on the scene, watching 159 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: these bad events unfold, and the officers weren't doing anything, 160 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: and people were just Some of the media outlets called 161 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: it peaceful protests. Well, since win is burning buildings and 162 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: torching homes and setting fires and assaulting people, Since when 163 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: is that peace? But you know, those those images and 164 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: the things that people were seeing and hearing across the country, 165 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: you know, it was such a groundswell of interest and 166 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 1: personal protection. And then you couple that with the fact 167 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: that we were on you know, lockdowns. There were a 168 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: lot of people who wanted to do something about safety. 169 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: Plus they were stuck in the house, not necessarily stuck 170 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: in the house, per se but there was nowhere to go. 171 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: So why not doing to a free shooting lesson? Why 172 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: I learned how to protect myself? It seems like you're 173 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: taking care of two birds with one stone, learning more 174 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 1: about personal protection and you get to entertain yourself. And 175 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: you know the great thing about it, you know, I 176 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: don't make you know any assurances that you know that 177 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: this is going to change your life. You know it could. 178 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: It could protect your life, it could save your family. 179 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: But if you were curious about what it takes to 180 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: protect yourself and to protect your family and had no 181 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: resources to turn to, I removed all the all of 182 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: the reasons excuses why people might not explore guns because 183 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's too expensive, you don't know anyone, 184 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: it's intimidating. I thought I would create a welcoming, warm 185 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: environment to get them to show up. I did everything 186 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: but have a daycare center set up so as long 187 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: as they've made it, you know, they were warmly received 188 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: and we got them trained, and man, it's just great 189 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: to see all the lives that this program is touched 190 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: over the years. So have you heard anything any feedback 191 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: from any women? Have there ever been has there ever 192 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: been a woman who's come to you and said what 193 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: you provided for me really changed my life or saved 194 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: my life. You know, I've heard numerous anecdotes and stories 195 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: that have been shared with me with varying degrees of 196 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: involvement on part of the woman that went through the program. 197 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: You know, I've had some women who tried it and 198 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: in a very fortunate few said hey, you know, at 199 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: least I tried it, and they weren't interested. And then 200 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: we've had women that try, actually bought a gun during 201 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: the actual events, signed up for training courses, got their 202 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: concealed pistol licenses. There have had been some women who've 203 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: had to produce their firearm under a very dangerous and 204 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: stressful situation and they needed to attempt to use it. 205 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: In many of those cases, those those women found out 206 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: that the bad guys, once that there was a reasonable 207 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: potential threat to their safety and trying to effect a robbery, 208 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: rape or a murder, they decided to run. And of course, 209 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: you know, outside your home, you can't shoot even bad 210 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: guys in the back, so you know, you let them 211 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: run and you call the police, and you know what, 212 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: I've actually have had a few students who have actually 213 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: had to actually shoot someone. And in some cases there 214 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: were former intimate partners and in others they were complete 215 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: strangers that they had not met before. But you know, 216 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: these are encouraging stories. You know, I never would like 217 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: to hear about someone being shot, but I won't lose 218 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: too many tiers about a violent criminal being stopped by 219 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: a law abiding citizen who merely decided to take on 220 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: a more active role in their personal protection. Let's take 221 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: a quick break more with Rick Ector. Next, Welcome back 222 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: to the Tutor Dickson Podcast. We continue our conversation with 223 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: Rick Ector. So let me ask you a little bit 224 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: about what you think in Michigan right now, we are 225 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: seeing a lot of proposals for gun reforms, is what 226 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: they're calling them. It's funny to me because when you 227 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: read the newspaper, they say common sense gun reforms, which 228 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: is so ridiculous that they use this terminology, And it's 229 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: like they're trying to trick people into believing that they 230 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: need to have these, that this is something that you 231 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: absolutely have to have. But I have a feeling that 232 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: you probably disagree with a few of these. I've seen 233 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: your NRA commercial and so I want to get your 234 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: opinion on what's going on in Michigan and in the 235 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: United States. It's because Joe Biden has also President Biden 236 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: has also put something out saying that he wants to 237 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: have some reforms as well. So give me your thoughts 238 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: on that. Man, you open up a cannon worms on 239 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: this topic. Let me tell you, you know, just looking 240 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: at the past couple of weeks, there have been some 241 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: very disturbing crime stories that happened here in southeastern Michigan. 242 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: Of course, the one case where the disturbed individual who 243 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: decided that he wanted to go to the campus of 244 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: Michigan State and kill people. You know, it touches on 245 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: a lot of talking points and a lot of things 246 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: that people people discuss when talking about guns and how 247 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: do we make our communities safer. I don't think that 248 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: there could have been a greater illustration of the need 249 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 1: for protecting people than what happened on the campus of 250 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 1: Michigan State. You had an evil person who for whatever reason, 251 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 1: came onto that campus armed with, you know, a firearm 252 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: in a gun free zone. Of course, you can't legally 253 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: carry guns on the campus of Michigan State. Michigan State 254 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: has its own campus police force and they just were 255 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: not there fast enough, and this guy was able to 256 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: go on and commit all of these atrocious acts, and 257 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: you know, in the aftermath, you know, he wasn't found 258 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: and caught until an anonymous tip came in that he 259 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: had pretty much walked several miles back home, and then 260 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: of course he stopped himself by killing himself. You know, 261 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: I'm not really rejoicing at someone's loss of life, but 262 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,479 Speaker 1: it just goes to show you that in this particular 263 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: isolated case, the law enforcement community just wasn't able to 264 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: get there fast enough to do anything that was going 265 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: to lead to protecting. But let me pick that just 266 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: a little bit more and unwrapped that a little go 267 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: a little deeper on that story, because in the news, 268 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: we immediately had Democrats call for these gun reforms. We've 269 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: got to have gun control laws. All of these extra 270 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: gun control laws are going to fix this. But isn't 271 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: it true that if this person had been prosecuted the 272 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: first time he was caught with a gun illegally, then 273 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: he would not have been able to buy and he 274 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: purchased this gun legally, but he would not have been 275 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: allowed to buy this gun legally had we not had 276 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: some of these prosecutors that are allowing people to continue 277 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: to commit crimes, just letting them back out on the streets. 278 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: So why do we have Democrats that are out there 279 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: saying we want these we want more laws if they're 280 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: not going to enforce the laws we already have. That 281 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: has been a main talking point from our side of 282 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: this issue for a number of years. We know we 283 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: have enough gun laws on the books where if they 284 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: were just merely enforced, someone actually did something about it, 285 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: and in this case, they did attempt to bring him 286 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: to justice. But then when he goes before Jush, who 287 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: has whatever political leanings or you know how they feel 288 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: about incarceration, that they fail to take appropriate action. And 289 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: you know what, we on the other side of this, 290 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: we would have never known the lives that would have 291 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: been that were saved because this judge locked up a 292 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: bad guy doing a bad thing that was not allowed 293 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: under the law. But you know, well, let me ask 294 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: you something else about this, because I want to know 295 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: if you find it frustrating that we have Democrats come 296 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: out and they get really upset when this happens on 297 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: a college campus. But you've talked quite a bit about 298 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: the increase in violence in Detroit. This increase has also 299 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: happened in Lancing. So this is happening two blocks over 300 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: from campus. But we don't hear democrats come out and 301 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: say we need to be safer, we need to protect 302 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: people until they can actually identify with the person who 303 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: got shot. Don't you think that's a little disturbing, You know, 304 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: I'll piggyback on that by saying this to me, it 305 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: struck a nerve to my core. Or when in the 306 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: aftermath of the shooting up at Michigan State there was 307 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: the post event press conference where they gave what they 308 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: called the pors mortem report, where they say they gather 309 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: all the information to give a good summary of everything 310 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: that transpired on that faithful day, and they were quite 311 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: proud of themselves about how many agencies were involved, how 312 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: fast they responded, how they communicated and coordinated, and that 313 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: they had a plan that was created you know, ad hoc, 314 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: you know, on the fly, but they all to a 315 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: person failed to get there, and that they were a 316 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: non factor. Those people died in vain. Despite their being 317 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: armed security on that campus with access to other law 318 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: enforcement agencies, they just could not get the job done 319 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 1: and there's no greater illustration of the insanity of not 320 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: allowing people to carry firearms legally with appropriate regulation and 321 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: gun free zones. I mean, in my opinion, they are 322 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: killing zones. You're telling a criminal you have free pass 323 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: to do whatever evil you want to do. Now, whether 324 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: this person was evil, or whether he was mentally challenged 325 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: or he had some moral deficiency, he still took a 326 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: firearm onto a campus full of innocent people who were 327 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: defenseless despite having campus security and kill them in cold book. 328 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: And I have yet to hear what their counter argument 329 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,959 Speaker 1: is in the aftermath of this colossal failure that to 330 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: me is a big problem. Every time we see this 331 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: happening at a school, whether it's a high school, whether 332 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: it's an elementary school, whether it's a college, there are 333 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: opportunities to say, Okay, what can we do to do 334 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: something to either prevent the first bullet from flying, to 335 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: make sure that we take care of when For example, 336 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: with this person, if he had been rightfully prosecuted the 337 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: first time, this wouldn't have happened likely. But what about 338 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: the idea of protecting and allowing people we had I 339 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: want to remind you that the rock on campus was 340 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: painted the next morning to say that they wanted to 341 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: be able to carry guns on campus, and there was 342 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: outrage like who would have allowed this to happen? Now, 343 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: remember the students paint the rock. But they insisted that 344 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: this was some sort of right wing activists that came 345 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: and did this. But I believe that there are students 346 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: out there that say, hey, just like you, the women 347 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: that come to your trainings, Hey, I want that opportunity 348 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: to defend myself, you know. And it's just common sense. 349 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: I mean, police can't be everywhere, even when we think 350 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: that they should be. You know, Michigan State could do 351 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: a lot of things. They need to take a look 352 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: at their campus in terms of what type of improvements 353 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: to the actual infrastructure physically on the ground. Can they 354 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: make it not such an inviting atmosphere for a crazy 355 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: person to conduct target practice on campus? Do they need 356 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: to make investments in terms of security? Should we, and 357 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: I believe wholeheartedly allow qualified people who've jumped through all 358 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: the hoops, dot all the eyes, crossed all the teas 359 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: to carry on campus. This idea of making it a 360 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: gun free zone clearly is not working. And then you 361 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: have the people who say well, only law enforcement officers 362 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: should have, you know, firearms. And then there was another 363 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: incident here in Metro Detroit, and I believe it was 364 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: in Livonia, Michigan. You know. And first and foremost before 365 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: I use this example as illustration, I love law enforcement. 366 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: I have a ton of friends in law enforcement. For 367 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: a number of years, I support our police chief here 368 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: in Detroit and all the other Metro Department, Metroit Metro 369 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: Area community departments. You know. In this one particular case, 370 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: there was a police officer from a I believe, I 371 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: believe he and his ex wife or a strange girlfriend. 372 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: They were both officers here I believe, at the Detroit 373 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: Police Department, but they were living out in a suburban community. 374 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: I believe it was Lavonia. They went through an incident 375 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: there apparently, you know, the husband that police officer, you know, 376 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: spaced out, flipped out and killed his woman, and then 377 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: he killed himself. You know. It just points to the 378 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: fact that anyone can be capable of committing some of 379 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: these atrocious acts giving the right set of circumstances. And 380 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: here's the thing you cannot say, well, only law enforcement 381 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: officers should have to access the firearms that you know, 382 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: that they are the only ones who can be trusted. 383 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: They are people, they are human just like anyone else, 384 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: and crime and island offenses can come from anywhere. What's 385 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: most important is that when it shows its ugly head, 386 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: that we do something about it to stop it right away. 387 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: And this same point illustrates the fact that we need 388 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: not only to make the proper investments in mental health, 389 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 1: but we need to make sure that when someone knows 390 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: about an incident like this that someone is in distress, 391 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: that he is actually you know, handled breakers under current law. 392 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: There's there's legislation where you can have someone picked up 393 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: for seventy two hours if they are threatened. Well, let 394 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: me let me ask you about that, because you're talking 395 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: about mental health and you're talking about there are genuinely 396 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: just bad guys out there. One quick question before we go, 397 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: I want to ask you because this new these new 398 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: gun laws that they're coming out with in Michigan and 399 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: the state of Michigan would say, there are some that 400 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: people agree with you in polling that are safe storage 401 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: things like that, but they're coupled with laws that would 402 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: say that they take away immunity for gun stores and 403 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: gun manufacturers. Do you think that the gun manufacturer or 404 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: the store that sells the gun should be held accountable 405 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 1: for what the gun does. Definitely not. I mean, why 406 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: don't we hold the alcohol distributors and manufacturers liable for 407 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: all the drunk driving crimes and incidents that happen. Yes, 408 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: if you're going to drive, you know, do so responsibly. 409 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: Don't drink and drive or be under any other intoxicating substances. 410 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: It's just a naked attempt at just putting the gun 411 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: industry out of business so that they can attack the 412 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: Second Amendment, you know, from through the back door. But 413 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: with regards to you know, at least the three laws 414 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: that are getting the most publicity, they're talking most about 415 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: red flag laws. Of course, you know that, of course, 416 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: is just a pure work of evil. Only someone who 417 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: was really a bad legislator could come up with such 418 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: a program where you're talking about eliminating due process on 419 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: a mere allegation of wrongdoing, that you're storming their residents, 420 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: and if you don't kill them upon securing their firearms, 421 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: you leave them there. Right, they're supposed to be a 422 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: danger to people. You leave him there to do whatever 423 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,479 Speaker 1: danger you thought he was going to do. And then 424 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: there's no due process. You know, you don't have an 425 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: opportunity beforehand to defend yourself in court. You have your 426 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: guns stolen if you're not killed, and then you have 427 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: to somehow finance a court proceeding to get your property back. 428 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,239 Speaker 1: You know, we don't do that in this country. You know, 429 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: you have a right to face your users. You have 430 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: a right to hear a case against you. You have 431 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: a right to a jury or a judge to make 432 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 1: a determination of your innocence and your guilt. Mandatory storage 433 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: is another thing that they're talking about. You know, how 434 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: in the world does that work? I mean, you you 435 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: have a situation in which someone irresponsibly didn't secure their firearm, 436 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: something bad happens, and then you want to just add 437 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: on another offense. Why don't we do something proactive, you know, 438 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: forward thinking, forward leaning. Why don't we introduce firearms safety 439 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: education in the schools. Why not explore would really shock 440 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: people one an, you know, any eagles stop, don't touch, 441 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: leave the area, tell a responsible adult. You know, why 442 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: not be more proactive and eliminate some of the mystery 443 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: that kids may have with regards to firearms. And in 444 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: many of these cases, when you do a deep dive 445 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: into it. It's usually a person who statutorially ineligible to 446 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: own and possess a gun in the first place. So 447 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: how do you stop criminals from breaking the law and 448 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: then when something bad happens, then punish all the good 449 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: people who didn't do it. It's just insane. And the 450 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: other law that they that they're pushing as this universal 451 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: registration right. They want to register rifles and shotguns. I mean, 452 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: when you look at the pure numbers, you know, more 453 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: people are assaulted and or killed with knives on the 454 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: four to one basis than a long gun, a rifle, 455 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: or a shotgun. And when you start talking about guns pistols, 456 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: by the time, by the time you get to loan guns, rifles, 457 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: and shotguns, you're on the order of how many people 458 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: are killed with rocks or blunt objects before loan guns 459 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: statistically become a problem. It's not about safety. It's all 460 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: about attacking the Second Amendment and defending the rights of 461 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: the citizens to defend themselves. And it makes me wonder, 462 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 1: is it really because down the road they want to 463 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: become tyrannical. I think that we're all wondering that, and 464 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: I appreciate your I knew you would have a lot 465 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: of insight on this. I knew you would have the facts, 466 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: and it was important for our audience to hear the facts. 467 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: But I like your idea of training in school, and 468 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: I will tell you that this is going to aige me. 469 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: But my husband actually took firearms training in high school. 470 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: That was part of their high school But you know, 471 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: it's it makes sense because I learned a lot from 472 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: your course, and I think that everybody would learn a 473 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: lot about the dangers of firearms and how to be 474 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: safe with a firearm if they had to take it 475 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: in school. But I don't know if that would ever happen. 476 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: Maybe that's a school choice issue as well. But thank 477 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: you so much. And you know, and the thing is, 478 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: it wouldn't take much to put these programs in place, 479 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: and in some cases volunteers from different organizations would be 480 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: willing to do that. But tunor before you cut me loose, 481 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: So I just want to let all of your listeners 482 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: know that I'm running for the National Rifle Association's board 483 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: of directors, and if they are so inclined to vote 484 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: for me to be on the board, I would be 485 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: truly indebted and I will fight for our right to 486 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: keep and bear arms until my last asperate thank you, 487 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for everything you do for women 488 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: and just in general out there fighting against this machine 489 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: that is trying to take all of our guns away 490 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: and our freedoms away. So I appreciate all of the 491 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: hard work you do. Rick Ector the owner of Rick's 492 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: Firearm Academy of Detroit. Make sure you check it out 493 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: the next time you're in the Detroit area. And thank 494 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: you all for joining me on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 495 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: For this episode and others, go to Tutor Dixon podcast 496 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: dot com. You can subscribe right there and join me 497 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: next time on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Have a great day.