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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori

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Speaker 1: with you. Let me to introduce our two special guests.

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Speaker 1: David Bettenhausen and Carla Bogni Kidd have been close friends

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Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety eight. Feeling a very deep spiritual kinship

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Speaker 1: for each other. Dave and Carla had spontaneous memories listen

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Speaker 1: to this of twenty nine past lives together while meditating.

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Speaker 1: They went on to get this past life regression training

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Speaker 1: with doctor Brian White. Of course, has been on our

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Speaker 1: program many times, and now Dave and Carlos spread the

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Speaker 1: message of love and kindness and teach holistic approaches to healing.

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Speaker 1: They teach meditation at their local university and senior centers.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Dave was a registered nurse for ten years before

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Speaker 1: returning to medical school. Recently retired from his private practice.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Dave now serves as the vice president of medical

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Speaker 1: Affairs at a very small Midwestern hospital and Carla recently

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Speaker 1: hired as his office manager. They share their message together

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Speaker 1: that love is the answer. David and Carlo, let's go

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Speaker 1: to you first. David, Hello there, good morning, George, how

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Speaker 1: are you? I'm great and Carlo with you and David,

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Speaker 1: welcome back. You were on our program almost a year

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Speaker 1: ago in September with my guest host Richard Sarah. So

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Speaker 1: welcome back, thank you, thanks for having us again. When

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Speaker 1: you two went through this past life regression, did you

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Speaker 1: know that you had a relationship in other past lives?

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Speaker 1: Let's go with you first, David, No, we were. We

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Speaker 1: weren't aware of it at all. It was it was

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Speaker 1: very much a surprise to us. The experience became incredible

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Speaker 1: after a while when we found out that we had

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Speaker 1: actually had twenty nine past lives together. That is truly remarkable. Carlo,

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Speaker 1: how did you feel about that? Well, it was actually

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Speaker 1: did not take place during past life regression. It was

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Speaker 1: through meditation, spontaneous memories. So it was, oh, what word

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Speaker 1: can I use? Unbelievable. The chill went up the back.

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Speaker 1: It was kind of taken out of our hands. We

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Speaker 1: were feeling the same thing we felt in nineteen twenty

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Speaker 1: when we had one of our past lives and it

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Speaker 1: was almost out of our control. Do you know if

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Speaker 1: all the twenty nine past lives were all great, jovial

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Speaker 1: fun I would say no, George, there's there's lives. Many

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Speaker 1: of them have lots of positives in them, but there's

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Speaker 1: some past lives that, literally, I would say there were horrific.

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Speaker 1: It's sort of like the history of mankind. There are

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Speaker 1: certainly times when we're not perfect people or good people.

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Speaker 1: At times when it seems like we're good people in

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Speaker 1: times that we weren't. How many different people who are

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Speaker 1: in relationships might have had relationships like you two have

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Speaker 1: had in past lives and just don't even know about it. Well,

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Speaker 1: I actually think it's quite a few, George. You know,

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Speaker 1: as as we went through this process, we started to find,

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Speaker 1: you know, different past lives together, and then we would

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Speaker 1: go to some of these past lives, we would find

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Speaker 1: other people we knew, and we started to discover that

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Speaker 1: we kind of traveled together as a soul family or

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Speaker 1: soul group. And then we started to discover that actually

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Speaker 1: we traveled with people that were family mates and then

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Speaker 1: people who were actually carmaic mates. But they're all in

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Speaker 1: your same soul group and they return over and over again,

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Speaker 1: not necessarily in every life. During the process, Carla found

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Speaker 1: thirty four different lives and I found forty two. But

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Speaker 1: we were in twenty nine of them together. And I

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Speaker 1: have heard at the relationships you have with others. Let's

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Speaker 1: say you have a son now and a daughter. They

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Speaker 1: may have been your mother and father in another past life.

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Speaker 1: Have you found that to be the case. Well, actually, yes,

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Speaker 1: my husband in this life has been my husband, my son,

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Speaker 1: my neighbor, my sister in this life has been my neighbor,

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Speaker 1: a friend. Dave and I have not always had romantic relationship.

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Speaker 1: I have been his mother, I've been his next door neighbor,

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Speaker 1: I've been his schoolmate. So yes, we play different roles.

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Speaker 1: That's just dramatic. What causes that? I mean, what causes

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Speaker 1: there something that's creating this, making this happen. It's not

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Speaker 1: by accident. So what happens? Well, absolutely, it's not by accident.

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Speaker 1: We've ended up writing three separate books and actually probably

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Speaker 1: called the Manual. And this is all coordinated, you know,

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Speaker 1: There's a draw that draws you together, whether it's your

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Speaker 1: This is almost like another gravitational field or another pull

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Speaker 1: in past lives, and after many, many lives, you still

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Speaker 1: really what we've discovered. You know that, like Carla said,

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Speaker 1: Since you've had twenty nine lives together that you know of,

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Speaker 1: and let's say the average was sixty years old. Maybe

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Speaker 1: That's going way way back, isn't it. It's going way

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Speaker 1: way back. And like I said, George, our first life

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Speaker 1: was trauma. For instance, in our past life, we lived

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Speaker 1: brother and sister. Dave was four, I was six. We

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Speaker 1: And then of course you know in this life, we

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Speaker 1: it's you know, they're not always like sixty years old.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Now, have the two of you found

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Speaker 1: yet again. And in that life I was a flapper.

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Speaker 1: My name was Ruby Donaldson, and Dave was a junior

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Speaker 1: being his flapper and the speakeasy to Andre's and Little Italy. Yeah, George,

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