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Speaker 2: Have you seen a restaurant I guess it's in Houston

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Speaker 2: apostrophe s Cajun Cafe. It has two z's in it

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Speaker 2: vowels apostrophe s Cajun Cafe. Have you seen that? Okay, well,

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Speaker 2: they're logo. I've never been there, but apparently they've gone

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Speaker 2: under or they're selling or whatever else. Their logo looks

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Speaker 2: to me like it says Razi's because the second Z

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Speaker 2: of the RAS goes through the two o's to make

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Speaker 2: below says that it's Razu and they're in bankruptcy. Have

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Speaker 2: you heard of this Razoo's Cajun Cafe? Okay, well, apparently

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Speaker 2: the parent company of tex mex restaurant me Cosina. Have

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Speaker 2: you been there? Where are these places? I've never been

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Speaker 2: to any of these places. A Dallas Hospitality Group might

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Speaker 2: be the timely savior for a Texas restaurant chain that

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Speaker 2: declared bankruptcy a few months ago. Court documents show m crowd,

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Speaker 2: the parent company of tex Mex restaurant chain me Cosina,

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Speaker 2: has emerged as the stalking horse bidder for Razu's Cajun Cafe,

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Speaker 2: with an offer valued at around eighteen point eight million dollars. Humm. Parently,

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Speaker 2: they offered to buy out Razus from Chapter eleven bankruptcy

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Speaker 2: their debt. I don't know. Razus reported twenty locations and

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Speaker 2: one thousand employees in its original petition. Oh here's where

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Speaker 2: they are, all right. They're in Corpus Christi on Staple Street,

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma City. They've officially closed three locations. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Pasadena location had already closed. The other two are still

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Speaker 2: operating in Stafford and Spring. You know what. That's why

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Speaker 2: I recognize their logo. I think they're on the fountains,

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Speaker 2: If you're headed toward sugar Land, there's the fountains. Right there.

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Speaker 2: they have the Lorenzo's, but then they have the they

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Speaker 2: have the one on Washington L Tempo. Yeah, okay, so

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Speaker 2: there's an l tempo there. And then there used to

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Speaker 2: Oh there was a Kim song. That's exactly right. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's exactly right. I don't know how that's done since then,

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Speaker 2: Jennifer says, hey, thanks for keeping up. I've been here

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Speaker 2: you've been there for a while before we announce it

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Speaker 2: I've been here for four years. Five to seven on

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Speaker 2: that might have been what she was thinking. Yeah, maybe,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Five to seven on the air, seven

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Speaker 2: That's better than Jennifer Rain Seriously, Well, what I'm not

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Speaker 2: I just I can't imagine why you would do that.

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Speaker 2: and Michael, competition is a good thing. It is good

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Speaker 2: to be reminded that we don't have kings. No literally,

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Speaker 3: That's a that's a term of endearment you get on

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Speaker 2: And what about people who don't like you? What do

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Speaker 3: Well, luckily for those listening, we actually posted everything on

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Speaker 2: Right, It's a whole money for just a moment doctor

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Speaker 2: Chambers is running for governor against Greg Abbott. He's our

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Speaker 2: Let's first start with we talked a little bit about

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Speaker 2: It is very unhealthy for sitting politicians not to be challenged.

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Speaker 2: You know, the reigning super Bowl champion or World Series

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Speaker 2: And I think that your message is one that will resonate.

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Speaker 2: But your challenge, I suppose, is just getting out and

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Speaker 3: Who we are, Yeah, voice is a little rough, fifteen

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Speaker 3: so but we're going to continue it again. This is

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Speaker 3: It's more verbal, you know, you get the pun ins

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Speaker 2: What do you hear the most of when you're out

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Speaker 3: Most of them and many of them are like me.

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Speaker 3: But they're just saying, but why why is he doing this?

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Speaker 3: It may not be. You know, I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: But up until the time of the primary, we are

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Speaker 2: I operate under the theory that the people should not

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Speaker 3: So the border. There's an optic versus reality that took

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Speaker 3: our homework. Here. You've got sharia law in Dallas. It

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Speaker 2: Doc Cold on just a moment. Pete Chambers is a

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Speaker 2: State of Texas. He's our guest on the show. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Texas is a big state. It's hard to run statewide.

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Speaker 3: All right? Well, this, this is uh, this is one

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Speaker 3: by the creator. And so that is uh. I hold

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Speaker 3: the line firmly on that. I believe that people have

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Speaker 3: uh you know, we don't. We don't need to, like

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Speaker 3: I said, genuflect to receive those rights.

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Speaker 2: You talk about parental rights. You talk about medical rights

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Speaker 2: in a reference to that. As a physician, I get

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Speaker 2: to sense that that you share. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: put words in your mouth, but my views and maybe

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Speaker 2: those of Mary Tally Boden. You worked through as a

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Speaker 2: professional the COVID era, where I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: people lost trust and faith and respect for what we're

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Speaker 2: called the experts. Your thoughts on.

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Speaker 3: That, sure is, there were four whistleblowers and the whole

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Speaker 3: of the Department of Defense, and I was one of them.

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Speaker 3: At Ron Johnson gave us whistleblower protection. I put and

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Speaker 3: put quotes around that word protection. There still lots of

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Speaker 3: subversive things happened, But I've testified in a in a case,

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Speaker 3: a federal case Fields versus Deoda, to guard those freedoms

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Speaker 3: that they are. They have medical freedom regarding fate. They

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Speaker 3: didn't want to take it because of what was in

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Speaker 3: the shots. But it goes further than that. It is

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Speaker 3: it is not only by regulation, but it is it

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Speaker 3: is just the hippocratic oath and everything that is. You

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Speaker 3: know that we've learned about that we do do no harm,

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Speaker 3: first of all, physician, do no harm. We cannot we

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Speaker 3: cannot take that choice away from the patient. But we

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Speaker 3: also must any intervention must come with an informed consent,

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Speaker 3: which means the good and the bad and the ugly

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Speaker 3: of that. So when I studied it, and look, I'm

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Speaker 3: just the guy that stopped bleeding on the battlefield, I'm

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Speaker 3: really good at it. I'm a flight surgeon for the

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Speaker 3: Green Rice, been deployed in combat several times, so I

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Speaker 3: will say I'm very good at that. But I'm not

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Speaker 3: an immnologist and no orphiologist, but I can learn really quickly.

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Speaker 3: And when I got down to their border and I'm

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Speaker 3: taking care of these soldiers, men and women of Texas,

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Speaker 3: and they are falling out because they took shots already.

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Speaker 3: And then you know, first case, twenty seven year old

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Speaker 3: Miro card I, a second case stroke guy took two

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Speaker 3: years to get rehab his voice. I had to stand

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Speaker 3: in the gap and say, no, muss right, no more.

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Speaker 3: So I went to my chain of command, went to

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Speaker 3: the task for a commander, went to the governor's office,

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Speaker 3: went to the State Adjutant General's office, and it was crickets.

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Speaker 3: You know, there was a a congressman that you were

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Speaker 3: talking about from Houston earlier. Where's a pat I went

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Speaker 3: to his office, same thing. Crickets. So it took us

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Speaker 3: out of state, the Senator to come to Texas Aid

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Speaker 3: with all dispatch in the words of William Barrett, and say, hey,

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Speaker 3: testify on this, and we're you know, we're going to

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Speaker 3: go after this. And we did and we won. And

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Speaker 3: now the Secretary Offense says it's on law order. Now,

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Speaker 3: Mary Tally Bonan, you talk about great friend. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: put her in charge. You know, we make it through this,

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Speaker 3: She'll be in charge of the Texas Medical Board, and

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Speaker 3: there will maybe nobody on the board. It gives exorbitant

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Speaker 3: campaign donations to this governor, because that's the fact that

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Speaker 3: every one of them that sits there right now. So

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Speaker 3: perhaps even abolishing, because I'm a decentralizing kind of guy,

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Speaker 3: amolishing the text medical Board. Her pat agreeds actions, I.

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Speaker 2: Think there are. I think that they're dealings with regard

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Speaker 2: to her reveal a number of things, the problems with

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Speaker 2: that board and also her sense of keihatik willingness to

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Speaker 2: fight against no matter what the stakes. You know, she

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Speaker 2: could have easily tucked tail and walked off and left

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Speaker 2: that alone. They picked the wrong fight in her that

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Speaker 2: is a tough, tough lady. I just checked while you

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Speaker 2: were talking to make sure there were six Missourians at

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Speaker 2: the Alamo. In cases you were wondering, you probably already

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Speaker 2: knew that. So where do we go from here? We

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Speaker 2: will talk again before the election. I wanted people to

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Speaker 2: have an opportunity to get to know a little bit

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Speaker 2: about you. I've got about two minutes left. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: you have what we call the elevator speech to donors

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Speaker 2: and to rallies. Why don't you take that time and

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Speaker 2: I'll just cut you off and we get to the

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Speaker 2: break and we'll talk again before the election.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Sure, it's great talking to you. So you know,

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Speaker 3: Paul Hall taught me that's a senator in Texas. She

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Speaker 3: taught me, think of the horse you nail. Your vote counts.

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Speaker 3: We need every vote in this off cycle election. So

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Speaker 3: just take a horse youmail for a lot of a nail.

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Speaker 3: A horse was lost, a shoe was lost. The loss

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Speaker 3: of a shoe, a horse was lost, lost the horse

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Speaker 3: or writer than a battle, then a war was lost Texas.

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Speaker 3: I need every one of you to get up, get

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Speaker 3: to Doc Pee Chambers dot org and get on a

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Speaker 3: team and help us out. We're taking volunteers every day

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Speaker 3: to help write policy, to help be on task forces.

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Speaker 3: And again, thank you Michael Berry for having me on

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Speaker 3: and we'll talk to.

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Speaker 2: Answer sounds good, good luck out there. It's a big state.

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Speaker 2: But God bless you. I've heard from a number of

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Speaker 2: people who wanted to hear from you and uh, and

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Speaker 2: we'll make sure that you are heard from again before

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Speaker 2: this election. Keep up the good work. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: your service to this country. We need good people to

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Speaker 2: run for office, we really do. And I'll tell you

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Speaker 2: it is Uh. It's a tough tough thing to do

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Speaker 2: because people are going to criticize your motivations. They're going

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Speaker 2: to criticize whatever you're most proud of. They're going to

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Speaker 2: criticize your appearance. They're going to criticize the way you

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Speaker 2: wear your hair or the cut of your jib or

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Speaker 2: whatever else. And the establishment doesn't like change. Once they

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Speaker 2: get their guy that they know his entire staff and

534
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Speaker 2: they know that he owes them. Change is anathema to

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Speaker 2: the political process. They like stability, not great representation, not

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Speaker 2: effectiveness in government. Whatever your industry, whatever your lobbying practice,

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Speaker 2: you like the devil you know there is what is

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Speaker 2: known as a friendly incumbent rule, whereas most packs and

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Speaker 2: trade organizations they won't look at a challenger. They want

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Speaker 2: the guy they know first of all. Because let's take

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Speaker 2: a case like this, if you're running against the governor

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Speaker 2: and there's a trade association between now and March, they

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Speaker 2: may have something that years before the governor and they

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Speaker 2: want the governor to be friendly about it, so of

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Speaker 2: course they're going to support the governor. It is a

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Speaker 2: tough thing to do, to challenge politicians. It is disruptive,

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Speaker 2: but as we have seen in the tech space and

548
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Speaker 2: the oil and gas space, and the communications space, and

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Speaker 2: trans transportation space and healthcare space, disruption, while it creates

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Speaker 2: discontent and discomfort, it's necessary