WEBVTT - Feather Huntin': The Great Trans-Saharan Ostrich Heist

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey it's Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, it's Elizabeth Dutton. What's up, Burnette?

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<v Speaker 4>I got a question for you. And you're a cool

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<v Speaker 4>felliny t shirt. Do you know what's ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 3>I do know it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>What shack shack diesel shack jackfu.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Eel O'Neill. He's one of those celebrities.

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<v Speaker 4>Shoe well, yeah, that's what my friend's dad always says

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<v Speaker 4>us every year.

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<v Speaker 2>Sequel. He's like a good Irish name. He's Irish. Yikes.

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<v Speaker 3>He he's one of those celebrities that's just like everywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll do an ad for anything. Oh yeah, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a handful of them.

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<v Speaker 2>If you can write the check to him and he

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<v Speaker 2>can see that it clears. Huh.

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<v Speaker 3>So we got word that there was this thing called

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<v Speaker 3>a shack pack shack pack, which then when I googled it,

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<v Speaker 3>that was originally something that was called that was like

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<v Speaker 3>a burger king deal.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I thought, Yeah, in the early aughts.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a sour dough burger. Shaquille O'Neill apparently endorsed,

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<v Speaker 3>was particularly fond of so anyway, But now there's this

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<v Speaker 3>new shack pack and it is a mash up, well

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<v Speaker 3>but not.

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<v Speaker 2>Really was like a cryptocurrency, that's how bad it is.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's it's a product. It's Icy Hot. You know

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<v Speaker 3>he does.

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<v Speaker 2>Icy I mean, this.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't that surprising. It's not truly a mash up. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just a celebrity endorsement, okay, until until they go too far.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's like a limited edition roll on Icy Hot

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<v Speaker 3>for when you're curtain and a yeah, and then this

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<v Speaker 3>is what the packaging looks like. So it kind of

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<v Speaker 3>looks like a PEZ dispenservice that but the head is

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<v Speaker 3>Shaquille O'Neill's giant.

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<v Speaker 4>Head that like removed from their body PEZ and.

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<v Speaker 3>It's totally going to go up someone's tutor holding it

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<v Speaker 3>larger than I thought it would be. But so yeah, anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just kind of hideous and take.

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<v Speaker 2>That related is perfectly good. No, not really, I'm not saying, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>He does what is it? The general all sorts of

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<v Speaker 3>other ads and is long and so anyway, yeah, we

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<v Speaker 3>got that from a few people on Instagram, thank you,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think one of them, let me see, one

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<v Speaker 3>was where's the email? That I got Scott Nelson. Scott

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<v Speaker 3>his profile picture is some really cute dogs. So Scott,

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<v Speaker 3>that's why we're going to pick you as the refer

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<v Speaker 3>on this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Look you Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>He also sent us a great picture that the interns

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<v Speaker 3>forwarded me of Shilah boof doing gang science. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know all around. Yeah, shock pack. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>get one. It's limited edition. I didn't really look into

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<v Speaker 3>how one would go about securing such a thing.

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<v Speaker 4>You should, I don't like, should get a pair of

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<v Speaker 4>those shorts that have hot pocket pockets. Eric Buckolts sent

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<v Speaker 4>me a thing on Blue Sky about that we talk

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<v Speaker 4>about the hot pocket pockets.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like we might have talked.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to use this as a shield a defense.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm holding this up here.

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<v Speaker 3>Trying to block my mash this like.

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<v Speaker 2>A magic cards like I don't know I'm gonna play.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a real mashup though. It's just like a weak,

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<v Speaker 3>weird promotional thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah you know, I want saw Shaquille O'Neil outside of

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<v Speaker 4>a restaurant in Beverly Hills the night before the season

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<v Speaker 4>started at two am. It gets out of his like beautiful,

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<v Speaker 4>like uh Bentley or no, yeah, Bentley. And he gets

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<v Speaker 4>out and and I'm like, I'm walking out with this

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<v Speaker 4>guy with a good friend of mine. Uh, and we

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<v Speaker 4>both look up as this man unfolds from this car

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<v Speaker 4>right in front of us. I mean like we're walking

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<v Speaker 4>out round the sidewalk and he's parked right there, getting

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<v Speaker 4>out of the valet, and he just goes stretches, and

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even know what to say. I just look

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<v Speaker 4>at him and my head's going up, like I'm watching

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<v Speaker 4>like Jack and the bean sprout stretch. And he gets

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<v Speaker 4>up and he's just a full height. He's like seven

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<v Speaker 4>three or whatever, maybe seventy five.

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<v Speaker 2>Of shoes on.

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<v Speaker 4>And he says like I'm like, he's like hey, I'm like, hey, shack.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like, yo, push past me. I think he might

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<v Speaker 4>have been self medicated.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, it's like, how like, don't Lales have

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<v Speaker 3>like the slowest heart? That's how he that.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really impressive, and.

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<v Speaker 3>You went on to write about him and for mel magazine.

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<v Speaker 2>Right wrote in the Size of the Little Shack.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's one of my red stories of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>I still get emails about it. Anyway, enough about already.

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<v Speaker 3>Too many ridiculous things abound.

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<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth, I got a story for you today. Okay, it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 4>My research into wigjackers, Yeah, led me down a different

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<v Speaker 4>rabbit hole.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'd like to tell you about today.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, specifically, yes, the story of the great trans Saharan

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<v Speaker 4>Ostrich heist.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, this is ridiculous crime.

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<v Speaker 4>My podcast about absurd and rageous capers, heists and cons.

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<v Speaker 4>It's always ninety nine percent motor free, that's right, and

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred percent ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that, that's right, Elizabeth Sarren. If I asked you,

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<v Speaker 2>what would you say is your favorite bird?

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<v Speaker 3>My favorite bird, I would have to say I like

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<v Speaker 3>redtail hawks.

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<v Speaker 2>Good answer.

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<v Speaker 3>In my backyard every afternoon there's a fight between crows

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<v Speaker 3>and a red tail.

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<v Speaker 2>That's dope.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's pretty cool stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Good entertainment too.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>You just go out there and they do it.

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<v Speaker 4>They do, they signal you do, they let you know

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<v Speaker 4>it's on or you have to go out at a certain time.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, one of the mocking birds comes and taps on

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<v Speaker 3>the windows.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Lizbeth, it's happening.

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<v Speaker 3>You better get out here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm okay, good defeat this lapping.

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<v Speaker 4>It's happening. Well, I got a second question. Yes, what's

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<v Speaker 4>your third favorite bird?

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<v Speaker 3>My third favorite bird? Oh? I got a great barn

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<v Speaker 3>owl out in the tree outside my place too, so

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<v Speaker 3>I can hear them on some night.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of birds in your life.

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<v Speaker 3>I really. Do you have that Merlin app on your phone? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>You told me about them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes I'm out there and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Just bird identify somehow.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, I just go out there and I hit record, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and just watch it. Rack them up, rack them all

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<v Speaker 3>these lists of birds, bush tits, baller bush tits.

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<v Speaker 2>There is that recent the do fine?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a recent one. But you know something, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know nothing about birds.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good news for you.

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<v Speaker 3>What's your favorite bird?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not answering that question, a cop. What would you

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<v Speaker 2>say is the weirdest bird?

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<v Speaker 3>What is even happening right now? The weirdest bird? What

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<v Speaker 3>is that one with that giant bill that looks all crazy? Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like the stork thing. Yeah, but it's like huge

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<v Speaker 4>and it has a clacking bill. It looks like a

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<v Speaker 4>dinosaur illustration. Yeah, I don't know what that bird is.

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<v Speaker 3>Called the weird looking big bill bird.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that answer is incorrect.

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<v Speaker 4>The correct answer that we were looking for is ostriche.

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<v Speaker 4>The answer was ostrich. Elizabeth, what do you know about ostriches?

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<v Speaker 3>Long leg They stick their head in the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true, they do. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, if like me, you thought ostriches come from Australia,

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<v Speaker 4>you would be wrong. They are not from down Under.

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<v Speaker 4>I totally thought they're from down Under. Oh yes, a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of those birds. Yeah, we'll get into that in

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<v Speaker 4>a second. Turns out they're transplants. They're the common ostrich

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<v Speaker 4>was brought to Australia, so you'll see a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>them there and being bad asses, they caped captivity, they

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<v Speaker 4>got free, got busy and created an enormous feral colonizers.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not native, sure, they were brought there, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Now factually speaking, ostriches are criminals. No, they are not criminals. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>they're free living, but they're they're from Africa, then they're

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<v Speaker 4>There are two main species, the common ostrich from West

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<v Speaker 4>and North Africa, and then there's the Somali ostrich, which

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<v Speaker 4>is like from the horn. Now there's the subspecies, the

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<v Speaker 4>rednecked ostrich aka the North African ostrich aka the Barbary ostrich.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I learned a whole lot about ostriches for this,

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<v Speaker 4>so that way I could talk with some like at

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<v Speaker 4>least the conviction of an eight year old with a

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<v Speaker 4>new obsession.

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<v Speaker 3>So you didn't know this going into it, No, I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know most of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Love the research for the show.

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<v Speaker 3>This knowledge with you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a gift I gave myself.

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<v Speaker 3>Beautiful, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't you damn right now.

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<v Speaker 4>The Ostrich Elizabeth is considered the largest living retit, and

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<v Speaker 4>that is it was a new word for me. That's

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<v Speaker 4>a term for the species of tall flightless birds. So

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<v Speaker 4>EMUs are a tie It looks like it would be

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<v Speaker 4>pronounced retight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's a red tit now.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so this includes is his EMUs castawerries the rahah.

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<v Speaker 3>I just shifted way down into power nerd. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 3>like trying to figure out like the word origin exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It was all new to me. I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been heard this reference.

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<v Speaker 3>What does it come from?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, ostro whatever, I'll look look up.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they're the big daddies of the red tit family.

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<v Speaker 4>The common ostrich stands nine feet tall. Dang, that weighs

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<v Speaker 4>about three hundred and fifty pounds. Did you know that

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<v Speaker 4>ostriches can run up to forty three miles an hour.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, they're like shack exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>On two legs, it can run faster than a horse

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<v Speaker 4>can on four what, Yeah, like a lot faster, like

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<v Speaker 4>thoroughbreds running like thirty one miles an hour, So thirty two,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like they're running forty three.

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<v Speaker 3>I imagine it's pretty funny looking too.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh totally. And what ostrich run?

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<v Speaker 4>One single stride can be about six feet wide and

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<v Speaker 4>from point to point.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Ostriches are the largest heaviest bird on the planet, so

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<v Speaker 4>heavy that they cannot fly.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like chickens.

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<v Speaker 4>They can kind of sort of hub or fly for

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<v Speaker 4>a second, but instead ostriches run and like I said,

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<v Speaker 4>faster than a horse, Elizabeth, they can also kick ass.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to I'm going to take one into the

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<v Speaker 3>Kentucky Derby.

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<v Speaker 2>Right on the back of an ostrich. That would be dope.

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<v Speaker 4>The ostriches have these crazy strong legs and at the

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<v Speaker 4>end of the of these clawed feet, which is two

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<v Speaker 4>intense claws that can disembottle a full grown man.

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<v Speaker 3>This is perfect for the derby, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly have you ever seen an ostrich like up close,

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<v Speaker 4>like at a petting zoo or I.

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<v Speaker 3>Feel like I may have seen one at a zoo,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm kicking myself for not paying closer attention.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw one. We crossed country that time.

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<v Speaker 4>We stopped at the farm and like Arizona, and they

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<v Speaker 4>had remember the eyelashes, how crazy long eyelashes were, huge

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<v Speaker 4>eyes the memories.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, I forgot.

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<v Speaker 4>Their eyes are two inches across. They have the biggest

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<v Speaker 4>eyes of any land animals.

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<v Speaker 3>And honey, they pop, they do.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, they're just stunning. Now.

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<v Speaker 4>Also their eyes are decorated, as they said, with these

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<v Speaker 4>super long eye lashes. That's like reduce glare. But also

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<v Speaker 4>because they're running at the speed of like an old

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<v Speaker 4>Honda Civic, right, so they need to be able to

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<v Speaker 4>see everything. Now, do you know about their eggs?

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<v Speaker 2>They're big, big ones, big ones, so they have these Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>also let me I'll reverse it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you this. The adult male ostriches, they're covered

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<v Speaker 4>in black feathers. That's who usually mean to see a drawing,

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<v Speaker 4>it looks like that. Now for an accent, they have

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<v Speaker 4>those little white wings a little tough to white legs.

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<v Speaker 4>And then for they have the white tail fleather plumage,

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<v Speaker 4>and then their legs are kind of pinkish.

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<v Speaker 2>You notice.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so the adult female ostriches they're not so striking.

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<v Speaker 4>They have gray brown feathers instead of black covering them.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a reason for this, these two feather colors. This

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<v Speaker 4>isn't about mating selection. It isn't like, oh, the female

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<v Speaker 4>ostriches prefer this. No, they've worked this out as an

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<v Speaker 4>evolutionary advantage. It helps with egg protection. Ostriche daddies are

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<v Speaker 4>super involved because they sit over the guard of the

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<v Speaker 4>nest during the night, so they're black. The females sit

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<v Speaker 4>guard over the nest during the day, so they're brown

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<v Speaker 4>like the savannah. So the black feathers disappear against the

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<v Speaker 4>night sky. Brown feathers dis against, disappear against totally. And uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, have you ever seen an ostrich egg up close?

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<v Speaker 4>They're absolute units?

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<v Speaker 3>Are they the ones that the eggs that if you like,

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<v Speaker 3>hard boil it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's clear I do not know. It sounds right, I

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<v Speaker 2>did not, bigg I wish I knew the answer to that.

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<v Speaker 3>No. Yeah, there's one of them where if you had

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<v Speaker 3>to hard boil it comes to crack it open. The

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<v Speaker 3>egg white is actually clear.

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<v Speaker 4>That's cool, so the albumin doesn't turn like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Just imagine eating that is a double egg.

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<v Speaker 4>Well they came in China, would they age them and

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<v Speaker 4>then the paper wrap almost clear?

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<v Speaker 3>But the would be like if someone's messing with you

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<v Speaker 3>with like a jello. Yeah, ostrich could you imagine eating

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<v Speaker 3>and ostriche deviled egg?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, six inches long, five inches across. Hell, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 4>a meal for days. They weigh on average three.

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<v Speaker 2>Pounds three pounds.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's by far the largest egg of any bird

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<v Speaker 4>or reptile on the planet. Not only did they lay

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<v Speaker 4>the largest eggs, right, but these are the largest eggs

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<v Speaker 4>since the days of the dinosaur, from the days of

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<v Speaker 4>your Yeah, and they overlap with the days of dinosaur,

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<v Speaker 4>but we'll get to that in a second. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 4>lay like seven to ten eggs at a time. Ten

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<v Speaker 4>of those bad boys come out of your.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty one pounds eggs exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>And each one of those eggs, if you were to

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<v Speaker 4>eat them, like if they did, do your thing like

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<v Speaker 4>boots cook them up, that's the equivalent protein to twenty

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<v Speaker 4>four chicken eggs.

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<v Speaker 2>Each one is twenty one each egg twenty four chicken.

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<v Speaker 3>Eggsli, you have to very cool hand looke.

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<v Speaker 4>Does the price of eggs have you down? Have you

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<v Speaker 4>considered ostrich? I also learned ostriches are, in your word, quirky.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean they're poly like as they're into polygamy. They

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<v Speaker 4>have unicorns and group dates. No, I'm kidding, they don't,

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<v Speaker 4>but they are polygamous. Like the male will keep a

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<v Speaker 4>bruta hens and then they'll like so then because of

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<v Speaker 4>the egg laying issue, they pile all their eggs into

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<v Speaker 4>one communal nest of all of his females, which is

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<v Speaker 4>like the dominant female makes a nest and then the

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<v Speaker 4>I guess subdominant females. They put their eggs in her

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<v Speaker 4>nest and then he sits on them. They got like

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<v Speaker 4>a whole arrangement.

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<v Speaker 2>They're interesting exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like, we're vegan.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you read Stacey, she's new to our ostrich.

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<v Speaker 3>They're annoying me. Now back out of this, put it

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<v Speaker 3>into reverse.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember how he said the closest living relative to

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<v Speaker 4>ostriches or the cassawaies and the Rayas and the EMUs,

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<v Speaker 4>but they're all from Australia. I remember I said the

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<v Speaker 4>red Hits. That's the name of the family. That's the

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<v Speaker 4>name for that whole species group. But Australia and Africa

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<v Speaker 4>are far apart. So how did like ostriches get there?

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<v Speaker 3>And there's a little thing called Pangaea.

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<v Speaker 4>Good quote, it's actually Gondwana. I didn't know about this,

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<v Speaker 4>the super continent of Gondwana. Are you familiar with the

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<v Speaker 4>super continent? I mean, I have to met. It's been

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<v Speaker 4>a while since.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been reading up on super continents.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd forgotten more than I remembered about old deer Gondwana.

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<v Speaker 4>The super continent of Gondwana was composed of four of

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<v Speaker 4>the present continents, one the mostly submerged continent, and two

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<v Speaker 4>subcontinents all together. So the four continents were Africa, Australia,

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<v Speaker 4>South America and Antarctica. They were all pressed together. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>the once submerged continent was Zeelandia New Zealand, and then

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<v Speaker 4>the two sub continents were India and Arabia the peninsula.

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<v Speaker 4>So they all get pushed up and but Australia and

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<v Speaker 4>Zeland stay down and then South America on it just

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<v Speaker 4>jets over to the side. Now, as you might expect,

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<v Speaker 4>this various geographical regions which are now separated by oceans

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<v Speaker 4>still share to this day many of the same flora

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<v Speaker 4>and fauna aka same plant and man animal life. Sure

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<v Speaker 4>back to ostriches, their ancestors diverged evolutionary back in this

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<v Speaker 4>period of Gondwana land. So when they separated, this was

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<v Speaker 4>like in the Cretaceous period days of the dinosaur.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like t rex in the days of yours exactly. Now.

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<v Speaker 4>Then when Gwendana broke up, ostridges they become this evolutionary

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<v Speaker 4>cul de sac in Africa and Arabia. But they split

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<v Speaker 4>into a few subspecies. But they're more like an evolutionary

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<v Speaker 4>planned community, right with one way in, one way out.

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<v Speaker 2>So one in Florida, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly, the glade, you know, the what is it called

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<v Speaker 4>the something, the something something.

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<v Speaker 2>They always have golf golf parts they drive around. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I do not know.

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<v Speaker 4>I should point out that the ostriches have been around

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<v Speaker 4>for roughly, if I put it, numbers sixty six million years.

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<v Speaker 3>Sixty six That's.

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<v Speaker 2>Why there's so wild looking. They are old.

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<v Speaker 4>It also means they're evolutionarily a super success. They're like sharks,

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<v Speaker 4>like we got this down, don't mess with us. Sharks

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<v Speaker 4>have survived the ecological collapse that took out the dinosaurs,

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<v Speaker 4>so did ostriches.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then came humans.

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<v Speaker 4>While the other predators of the African savannah may like

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<v Speaker 4>to snack on an ostrich when they can catch them,

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<v Speaker 4>humans are their real primary predator, so we have been

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<v Speaker 4>since we emerged on the savannah, so for the last

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<v Speaker 4>like two hundred thousand years or so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no, I mean, like, look at them.

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<v Speaker 4>They're tall. They can't fly and escape us. They can

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<v Speaker 4>run like hell.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I can shredge it with them totally.

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<v Speaker 4>With the two towls, but with some planning, most of

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<v Speaker 4>that can be overcome. And plus, their eggs are equivalent

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<v Speaker 4>to two dozen chicken eggs, and they lay intended a

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<v Speaker 4>time in a nest.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, that's eat for days for.

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<v Speaker 4>The trus Now, if you can catch a full grown adult,

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<v Speaker 4>that's food for weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is how we began.

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<v Speaker 3>To ordering wings at a restaurant.

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<v Speaker 2>I want the leg, give.

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<v Speaker 4>You the leg at like a medieval time totally held

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<v Speaker 4>up ostrich drumstick.

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<v Speaker 2>Just work on that. You got a turkey leg.

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<v Speaker 4>I needed the I need a whole table for my

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<v Speaker 4>ostrich leg. So one point we found their skin made

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<v Speaker 4>good leather, like then the Egyptians they.

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<v Speaker 2>Figured that out. Yeah, They're like, oh, this is dope.

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<v Speaker 4>And then we began to associate ostriches and specifically ostrich

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<v Speaker 4>feathers with the god Matt. That's the Egyptians. Yeah, and accordingly,

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<v Speaker 4>so this becomes like divine justice. It also becomes symbolized

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<v Speaker 4>with ostrich feathers, so now they're associated with the divinity.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the pharaoh war II ostrich feathers in their crown,

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<v Speaker 4>so it's divine god given authority over men and women.

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<v Speaker 4>Ostriches start to really have a come up, right this

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<v Speaker 4>time keeping it Mediterranean over in ancient Greece, they're freaks

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<v Speaker 4>for the ostrich egg, right, they start offering them up

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<v Speaker 4>to gods as.

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<v Speaker 2>A worthy form of devotion, like here, please have an egg.

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<v Speaker 2>This will feed your family for day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>The Turks of the Ottoman Empire also keeping it Mediterranean,

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<v Speaker 4>my dudes, right, They would hunt ostriches. It was considered

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<v Speaker 4>great sport to them because think about it, you got

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<v Speaker 4>a nine foot tall flightless bird that can run faster

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<v Speaker 4>than a horse.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's good sports, that is, I guess right.

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<v Speaker 6>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>After anyway, after a successful hunt, the ostrich feathers and

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<v Speaker 4>the plumage with sometimes be worn as a prize of

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<v Speaker 4>the hunt. So once again it's now designer bravery and accomplishment.

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<v Speaker 4>And so this is about the time Ostrich feathers become

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<v Speaker 4>a fashion statement, not from the Ottoman Turks. But once

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<v Speaker 4>again it comes down to one person, one specific woman.

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<v Speaker 4>You want to guess who Elizabeth. No, if you said

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<v Speaker 4>Marie Antoinette, you were correct. Ostrich feathers are basically associated

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<v Speaker 4>with royalty, dating back as I said to the pharaohs

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<v Speaker 4>of Egypt, and this tradition continues through the Renaissance, when

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<v Speaker 4>kings of queen and Europe they opted to use ostrich

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<v Speaker 4>feathers to show their.

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<v Speaker 2>Associations with the previous divinity. They're like, oh, we're like

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<v Speaker 2>the fare just like that old stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, give me some Ostrich feathers, you know. At

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<v Speaker 4>the same time, ostrich feathers also become mundane. They become

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<v Speaker 4>the simple tool to express oneself. Ostrich feathers they become

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<v Speaker 4>quills to write on parchment paper. So now the durability

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<v Speaker 4>of Ostrich feathers also means that quills last longer, so

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<v Speaker 4>people start writing longer letters, longer court documents. This commoner's

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<v Speaker 4>technology lends itself to the creation of literature of the era.

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<v Speaker 4>So the Renaissance is this is a huge part because

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<v Speaker 4>of Ostrich. Right, anyway, let's take a little break. Can

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<v Speaker 4>I get back. We're gonna get back to my girlme

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<v Speaker 4>Marie Antoinette, and connect this to the big wigs I

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<v Speaker 4>told you about earlier, Yes, Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 3>Arin, but no, before you begin, Yes, I did a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of work during the ads.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what you were doing.

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<v Speaker 3>You went to sleep. I did the responsible thing and

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<v Speaker 3>I went to work. And number one, the place in

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<v Speaker 3>Florida is called the Villages.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh right, like a horror film, Yes, very much so.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the clear Egg that's the penguin.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, double down. That's why I was like, can't fly?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, you can't fly, Clear Egg, never lose. Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>Well I returned into uh and I say this loosely

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<v Speaker 4>my girl Marina's one night she was looking to find

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<v Speaker 4>some new visual shock to signify her elevated status, and

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<v Speaker 4>so she grabbed this brilliant, curling Ostrich feather. She shoved

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<v Speaker 4>it into her big ass wig and she pairs it

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<v Speaker 4>with his peacock feather. The look becomes instantly iconic. And

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<v Speaker 4>this is in the air still when everybody's doing the

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<v Speaker 4>big wig. So, as we covered before, so went Paris,

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<v Speaker 4>so went the world's fashion. So this look, for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess they just did like a lithograph of it.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how it passed around and everyone's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you got to soon enough. Ostrich feathers. They're the look

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<v Speaker 4>of the day. And that day lasted and lasted and

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<v Speaker 4>lasted into the nineteenth century, into the twentieth century. Ostrich

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<v Speaker 4>feathers remained of the rage in women's fashions on both

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<v Speaker 4>sides of the Atlantic. It was crazy that meant the

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<v Speaker 4>price paid for these fine, eye arresting architectural ostage feathers.

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<v Speaker 4>Skyrocket's Elizabeth. Yeah, And by the end of the eighteen hundreds,

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<v Speaker 4>from hats to funerals, Ostrich feathers are the thing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>and as we've covered, this coincided, but they fall and

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<v Speaker 4>the wigs is a mainstay and look for the rich

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<v Speaker 4>of the you know, rich and decade and they're like, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not doing wigs anymore. I'm all into big stupid hats.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh and those are those are very popular for big

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<v Speaker 3>stupid hats.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly as you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So now we get the elaborate hats of the days

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<v Speaker 4>they're like, yeah, you should put some striking plumage in

0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:35.760
<v Speaker 4>this fanciful exactly. So by beginning of the twentieth century

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<v Speaker 4>you get these hats.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, it's crazy decade in that's lovely.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought you'd like that.

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<v Speaker 4>The one of the women there that I'm showing you

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<v Speaker 4>on the right is Lillian Russell, the American actress.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not sure if you recognize that name.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but anyway, as his cultural craze goes and the

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<v Speaker 4>wealthy folks are exorbitant prices to outdo their peers, we

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<v Speaker 4>both know what that means, don't we.

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<v Speaker 5>Crime?

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<v Speaker 2>Crime.

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<v Speaker 4>So that starts off the Great ostrich Heist of nineteen eleven,

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<v Speaker 4>the Ostrich Yes, great Trans Saharian Ostrichized of nineteen eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>As opposed to the Great Northern.

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<v Speaker 2>The Trans Siberian, or the Transvall.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of transd be very specific about when

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<v Speaker 4>you're talking about your Ostrichized steamroller.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can't just cross anything. This is Transaharan.

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<v Speaker 4>So I got a question for you, if you had

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<v Speaker 4>to guess when Ostrich feathers were at the peak premium price. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>how much do you think they were worth? You want

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<v Speaker 4>to take a guess a pop, Yeah, I'll give you price.

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<v Speaker 4>This is eighteen eighty two the feather trade.

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<v Speaker 3>It is eighteen eighty two dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>As an all feathers sold, including ostrich feathers in eighteen

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<v Speaker 4>eighty two. I'm not going to ask you to do this.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to put some frame on this for you.

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<v Speaker 4>The whole feather trade was bringing in five million dollars

0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:51.840
<v Speaker 4>a year. That would be roughly worth fifteen point seven

0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:55.040
<v Speaker 4>billion dollars a year today with it being just for

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<v Speaker 4>the global feather trade. The feather industry at the time

0:23:57.800 --> 0:24:02.000
<v Speaker 4>was more lucrative than oil and gold. Wow, the second

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<v Speaker 4>only to the Kimberly diamond mine.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>So by nineteen thirteen, which is like, you know, right

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<v Speaker 4>around the point that this story takes place, at the

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<v Speaker 4>height of their value, ostrich feathers were worth how much

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<v Speaker 4>per pound do you think per pound?

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<v Speaker 2>Per pound?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, gosh, there's a lot in the pound.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>One thousand dollars, good, guess, five hundred dollars okay, which

0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:26.440
<v Speaker 4>if you convert. That would be sixteen thousand, two hundred

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:28.200
<v Speaker 4>and thirty five dollars for a pound of feathers.

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<v Speaker 3>Father, isn't that like this is not too far away

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<v Speaker 3>from the time. Remember that guy that you talked.

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<v Speaker 2>About wrist, Yes, a feather thief.

0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:39.399
<v Speaker 3>Feather thief that was all autubond.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly the same feathers, overlapping feather.

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<v Speaker 3>So like everyone was all about the feathers.

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<v Speaker 4>They loved the feathers and they were so worthwhile and

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:50.520
<v Speaker 4>people they also liked it because they could go tramping

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:53.200
<v Speaker 4>off into exotic places. Yeah, exploit them, take the feathers

0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:54.879
<v Speaker 4>and go back to where they're very valuable, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Just as a quick aside, my nephew when he was

0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:02.600
<v Speaker 3>maybe two, Sure he see feathers that have these pillows

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<v Speaker 3>on my sofa that are down filled. And if a

0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:08.679
<v Speaker 3>little feather came out of it and he noticed it,

0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:11.439
<v Speaker 3>he'd pick it up and say, oh, my hair, and

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:15.360
<v Speaker 3>then tuck it back into his hair. He thought he's

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<v Speaker 3>a smart kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Now totally get this. He is a smart kid, but

0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:20.320
<v Speaker 2>he thought that that's my hair. I don't know what

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:21.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing my hair like this.

0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:23.000
<v Speaker 3>Let me put it back here.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, for the mess.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I always think about that with people tucking

0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:27.080
<v Speaker 3>feathers in their hair.

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<v Speaker 2>My hair, my hair, Oh, my hair.

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<v Speaker 4>So you can imagine if these are so valuable that speculators,

0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:36.920
<v Speaker 4>investors as well as smugglers and thieves would get into

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<v Speaker 4>the ostrich feather industry. Right now, the most valuable ostrich

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<v Speaker 4>feathers were from the Barbary ostriches. Those are the North

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:47.440
<v Speaker 4>African subspecies. They were known to have the thickest, most luxurious,

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:49.480
<v Speaker 4>resplendent plumage Elizabeth.

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:53.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it just curling, yes, really good body.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, far more valuable than the ostrich feathers that were

0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:59.400
<v Speaker 4>collected from the South African ostrich which.

0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:01.720
<v Speaker 2>Were more numerous numbers. So there were more of those

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<v Speaker 2>ostriches in South.

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<v Speaker 4>Africa, yes, right, So the South Africa is responsible for

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<v Speaker 4>eighty five percent of the ostrich feather market.

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Eighty five percent.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, if you wanted to get the more lucrative ostrich

0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:16.239
<v Speaker 4>feathers from the Barbary region of North Africa, you had

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<v Speaker 4>to rely on camel trained caravans that were bringing the

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:24.000
<v Speaker 4>feathers through the Sahara crossing. This vast trans Sahari trade ride.

0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:27.919
<v Speaker 4>It totally dating back to antiquity. So you got proven

0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:31.320
<v Speaker 4>nons and you got history. Now, due to this camelbacked

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 4>nature of the Barbary ostridge feather distribution networks, Elizabeth, they

0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:38.359
<v Speaker 4>were far more rare in the market and their quality

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:40.520
<v Speaker 4>obviously was still more coveted. So you have these two

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:43.320
<v Speaker 4>factors that are causing the price to be valuable. But

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<v Speaker 4>in South Africa, the British overlords down there, who just

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:49.360
<v Speaker 4>supplanted recently the Dutch Borer ethnic group as the main

0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:52.560
<v Speaker 4>exploiters in the country, they were cuckoo for the ostrich

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:53.360
<v Speaker 4>feather industry.

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 2>They're like this guy like.

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<v Speaker 4>Basically, imagine one British fellaw said to another British fellow

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<v Speaker 4>if these ostriches are so valuable, why don't we follow them?

0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:02.480
<v Speaker 2>And the other fellaws like rdio what they're.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, No, but people want scrubbed table, they don't want

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:08.199
<v Speaker 3>factory farms ostriche.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, have you ever had ostrich meat?

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:12.480
<v Speaker 4>No, I mean all the weird meats, like if you

0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:14.399
<v Speaker 4>can make a burger out of it, I've probably probably

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 4>probably tried it.

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:17.840
<v Speaker 3>Really, Oh yeah, well I don't.

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:20.720
<v Speaker 4>I don't think it's it's like turkey, It's very similar.

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 4>You know, kind of a dry like gray meat, you know,

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 4>like a cross between like a red and a white meat.

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 2>It's like a gray meat.

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<v Speaker 4>So at this point, ostrich ranches become a big deal

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:34.520
<v Speaker 4>in South Africa, right, So South African ostrich farms start

0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:37.439
<v Speaker 4>to dominate the global market, and that's how they corner

0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 4>the supply maximizer profits with subpar ostridge feathers. Yeah, of course,

0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:44.479
<v Speaker 4>so this bothers the ostrich farmers, so their feathers are

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:45.400
<v Speaker 4>considered subpar.

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:46.760
<v Speaker 2>They're like, what's what's wrong with the arms.

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:49.640
<v Speaker 4>We dominate the market, so they start to covet these

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 4>barbary ostriches. They're like, we only get our hands with

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 4>those North African birds. However, the South African ostrich farmers,

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 4>they you know, basically resent the fact that also there's

0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:03.439
<v Speaker 4>this slippery truth to the ostrich feather market, which is

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 4>the feathers passed through so many hands in middlemen and

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 4>going across the desert, it's really hard to know on

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:12.680
<v Speaker 4>their way either to the European or the American markets,

0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 4>what is the real provenats are the exactly, So oftentimes

0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 4>people didn't know where the feathers were. They only cared

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:22.880
<v Speaker 4>about the quality which means if they could get their

0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 4>hands on some of these North African birds, bring them

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:28.440
<v Speaker 4>down to South Africa, put them on their farms. Yeah, done, deal.

0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:30.439
<v Speaker 4>It's not about where they're from. This is not like

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:32.919
<v Speaker 4>tear war for like, you know, we need to have

0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:34.359
<v Speaker 4>them standing on the right soil.

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:36.399
<v Speaker 2>Or maybe maybe.

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:37.879
<v Speaker 4>So they say to themselves, what if we set up

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 4>a couple of blokes up north, have them grab some

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 4>barbary ostriches, We bring them back down to South Africa,

0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 4>set up a couple of breeding pairs, breed our own

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 4>luxury line of ostrich feathers. It yeah, something Victoria.

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:55.760
<v Speaker 3>These are wild ostriches they're going to catch.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So in nineteen ten, South Africans they hear word

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 4>from the Brits, who they've just are. They're getting spun

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:05.000
<v Speaker 4>off right, They're like, oh, you're on your own now, Union.

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Of South Africa. Good luck.

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 3>Yes.

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:08.440
<v Speaker 4>But so there's all these Brits are every where, and

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 4>so the Brits are telling them like, oh, we heard

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 4>in the council office in Tripoli that we heard a

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 4>location of where you can find the barbary ostrich is located.

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 4>Because they don't have like they're not really flying it.

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 2>It's nineteen ten.

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:22.200
<v Speaker 4>There's no way to see the desert unless you go

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 4>marching out there. So they get there's like word that

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 4>there is we know where a flock of a big

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 4>flock of these birds are eaten away from the world

0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:31.959
<v Speaker 4>in an oasis near the sands of the Sahara. So

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:35.719
<v Speaker 4>specifically these it was the high value ostriches. So everyone's like, oh,

0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 4>where they're like, oh, and in Southern Sudan, which is

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 4>interestingly not the Sudan we would think of because okay,

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:43.960
<v Speaker 4>by this way, so you think of South Sudan, that's

0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:48.200
<v Speaker 4>like below Egypt, right, yeah, okay, below Sudan, that's not this.

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 4>Southern Sudan was the name for the French colonial holdings

0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 4>of West Africa, okay, and so the nations of Mali, Niger,

0:29:56.200 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 4>that's what we're talking about, Okay.

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Chad, that area. So this is yeah.

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 4>Anyway, So the Brits in the Triple Embassy, they say,

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:04.480
<v Speaker 4>basically directly south of us, on the other side of

0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 4>the Sahara is where there's all these birds, and so

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:09.480
<v Speaker 4>they'd go only tell their confederates in South Africa. The

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 4>South African ostrich industry started small, but it quickly grew

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 4>under a juggernaut. Right, so, but it basically it takes

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:18.800
<v Speaker 4>them about ten years from eighteen sixty five, the industry

0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 4>starts with like eighty ostriches. A decade later they've got

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 4>thirty two thousand. Oh they're kicking right so again still

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:28.360
<v Speaker 4>subpar varieties. They're like, okay, once we get our hands

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 4>on this, we can take our skills. We now know

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:32.920
<v Speaker 4>how to farm them. They're not dying off like at

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 4>the beginning. So they're like, okay, problem was there was

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 4>a whole law about you cannot go, if you're British

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 4>into French territory and just go grabbing our birds. It

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 4>would be a crime. It would be like a real

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:48.640
<v Speaker 4>treaty violation. It could lead to a war just to

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 4>get these ostriches. Because right now the Brits, in the French,

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 4>in the Germans, they're all fighting over Africa. They're very

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 4>quickly descending and throughout the end of the nineteenth century

0:30:57.360 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 4>carving it up.

0:30:58.080 --> 0:31:00.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, so deciding guess what all of you don't

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 3>know each other. You're a nation.

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we drew a map here it is you guys

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 4>are now Togoland. So quick plug, there's this great coverage

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 4>of this story from Atlas Obscura. I recommend the story

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 4>and were largely that website. Great website, fantastic. So the

0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 4>man who gets selected to lead this daring trans Saharan

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 4>Ostridge heist that they have planned and they're discussing down

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 4>in South Africa is this guy Russell Thornton. He's like

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:23.840
<v Speaker 4>a British adventurer type. He knows the area since he

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 4>was a veteran of the Boer War and he had

0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 4>won the region for the Brits. Is South Africa I'm

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 4>talking about. So he selects for his team two other

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 4>experts a fourth man who he trusted with his life,

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 4>and he goes, this is my heist team. We're gonna

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 4>go up there and get them birds. The two experts

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 4>that he pick were a pair of Ostrich ranchers. He's like,

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 4>they know birds, they'll be able to tell me. Grab

0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 4>that one. He looks like a goer.

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, guys names are Frank Smith and J. M. P. Bauker.

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 2>Fourth man, the one he trusts with his life is

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 2>his brother Ernest.

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Okay, that makes sense right now.

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:56.480
<v Speaker 4>So the two experts they travel up from South Africa

0:31:56.560 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 4>to meet him in London to plan their adventure with

0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:02.239
<v Speaker 4>the team leader Russell Thornton. They outfit themselves with all

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 4>the various gear they'll need for their African adventures.

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, very Royal Society helmets.

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 4>Yes exactly. They're going around shopping for this. Imagine that, right,

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 4>going around London, and they decide they need outfits for

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 4>cold weather, warm weather. They need gear for the desert

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 4>in the savannah. Right, so the ostriches that they're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be going after, they're located in a semi arid region,

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<v Speaker 4>but they're gonna have to start like in Nigeria and

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<v Speaker 4>go north. So they're like, it'll be hot and then

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<v Speaker 4>it'll be cold and be aired. So we need clothing

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<v Speaker 4>for everything. We're gonna needed trunks of clothing.

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<v Speaker 3>And in their minds they have the montage of the travel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>You know you have to have like a nice dress

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<v Speaker 3>shirt totally.

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<v Speaker 4>If they need to get invited to dinner, yeah, I go,

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<v Speaker 4>doctor Livingston, I presume would you like drinks? So the

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<v Speaker 4>two experts they travel to London, they planned their adventure

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<v Speaker 4>and uh, at this point, the year is nineteen eleven, right,

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<v Speaker 4>so this same year, there's a rumor that blows across

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<v Speaker 4>the Atlantic and worries these folks. They in both South

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<v Speaker 4>African contingent and in great The rumor is that there

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<v Speaker 4>is this trader who's been spotted in America. Talk is

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<v Speaker 4>he's working with the Americans. And to assume this traders

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<v Speaker 4>telling the Americans about the location of the Barbary ostriches.

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<v Speaker 4>They do that the American gets their hand on it.

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<v Speaker 4>Done deal, They'll just put them in Texas, in Arizona

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<v Speaker 4>and California.

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<v Speaker 2>And be creating these beautiful things. Yeah, handover fist.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, the American market is the biggest market for ostrich plumage.

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<v Speaker 4>This is where they're selling the stuff to the hats

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<v Speaker 4>in New York. The ladies in Washington, d C. Philadelphia, Baltimore,

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<v Speaker 4>you name it. They want these things. Even the River

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<v Speaker 4>City Elizabeth They the Victorian ladies they want the plumage.

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<v Speaker 4>Is how they tell people I'm rich and I'm important.

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<v Speaker 3>I just feel like Europe would have a much like

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<v Speaker 3>deeper bench in mark. Oh do they do.

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<v Speaker 4>But the Americas is just so many of them. And

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<v Speaker 4>they're also the nouvau riche, so they're they're willing to

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<v Speaker 4>signal and to buy and also the prices because they.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, we had to bring this over and then they

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<v Speaker 2>just tell them about their berber to trade did they

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<v Speaker 2>have to deal with They're like, oh, here's more money,

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<v Speaker 2>So they're they're not smart buyers anyway. So all this

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<v Speaker 2>means is big bucks if if the Americans get their

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<v Speaker 2>hands on it, or big bucks that they'll be losing

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<v Speaker 2>out if the Americans get their hands on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>The trader who's talking with the Americans is allegedly a

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<v Speaker 4>man from the South African Ministry of Agriculture. So he's

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<v Speaker 4>in the no yeah, motivated by an abundance of fear

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<v Speaker 4>and concern that they're about to be beat out on

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<v Speaker 4>all these huge profits by the Americans. The South African

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<v Speaker 4>Parliament holds a vote and they authorize the secret mission

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<v Speaker 4>of Thornton and his team.

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<v Speaker 3>Secret.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they're supposed to head to the saw hell and

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<v Speaker 4>come back with the ostriches. It wasn't just business now,

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 4>it's war.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So the trouble was that the alleged trader was Russell

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<v Speaker 4>Thornton's own brother, Ernest, the man he trusted with his life. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>he'd been invited along h ostrate adventure.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder waiting for him to.

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<v Speaker 4>Get to London. He's over there in New York going

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<v Speaker 4>by the way, I got the maps. You want to

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<v Speaker 4>point me outs? So they he Then he turns around

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<v Speaker 4>he set sale, you know, from America back to London.

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<v Speaker 4>Now South Africans are so worried, and their confederate British

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:03.720
<v Speaker 4>allies are so worried.

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<v Speaker 2>They also have to hope.

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<v Speaker 4>That none of this gets back to the nosy French

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<v Speaker 4>that they're planning on sneaking into their.

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<v Speaker 2>Colonies and stealing their births, and can the Americans keep

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<v Speaker 2>a secret? You know?

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<v Speaker 3>And they're like, I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 2>So the team leader's brother, right, it's over there in America.

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<v Speaker 2>They're worried about that.

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<v Speaker 4>It looks like their secret plans are ruined before they

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<v Speaker 4>even get started. But at this point, the Californians and

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<v Speaker 4>the Arizonans are the ones they hear about rumors of

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<v Speaker 4>talk of some ostrich thing. They send people to New

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<v Speaker 4>York to hear about this. It's getting crazy, right. Their fears, though,

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<v Speaker 4>aren't well founded, because it turns out Ernest baby brother

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<v Speaker 4>of team leader, travels back to England and he goes

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<v Speaker 4>a subterfuge worked perfectly he'd gone to America as a

0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 4>double agent to find out what the Americans knew. He

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<v Speaker 4>told them nothing of the Barbary Ostriches. He's purely on

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:51.360
<v Speaker 4>affect funding mission, very British. And then also it's to

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<v Speaker 4>scare the South Africans into approving their adventure, so they

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<v Speaker 4>get want brilliant right. So the problem though is that

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<v Speaker 4>the French territory does begin to hear whispers, and so

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<v Speaker 4>there is that one problem. But now at this point

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<v Speaker 4>they are told, you know, with their official orders to

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<v Speaker 4>sneak into French territory and.

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<v Speaker 2>Go do crimes.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, and they're basically like privateiers on the Spanish main right,

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<v Speaker 4>but they're ostriche thieves traveling the seas of sand of

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<v Speaker 4>the Sahara. Now, before they head off to the Sahel

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<v Speaker 4>for their Ostridge heights, the team travels to Paris. This

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<v Speaker 4>would be a key stop on their track.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's just thumbing their nose at the French.

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<v Speaker 4>Well they needed because the French are like big because

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<v Speaker 4>I remember they have a lot of the North African colonies,

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<v Speaker 4>so they're big in the to this trade and a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of the stuff comes through Tripoli. So the team

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<v Speaker 4>travels to Paris to talk to people who are in

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<v Speaker 4>the know, and then they need to win over the

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<v Speaker 4>trust of one man in particular. They travel from London

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<v Speaker 4>to Paris to attend a top secret meeting with this

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<v Speaker 4>mysterious feather merchant named Hassan. The meeting, of course, was

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<v Speaker 4>about their planned ostrich adventure in Africa. But rather than

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<v Speaker 4>tell you about Elizabeth, I'd like you to close your

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<v Speaker 4>eyes and I'd like you to picture it.

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<v Speaker 2>Paris, France, nineteen eleven.

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<v Speaker 4>Elizabeth, at the moment, you are working in the home

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<v Speaker 4>of Isaac Hassan, from the Hassan family of international feather merchants.

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<v Speaker 2>A deal went bad.

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<v Speaker 4>You wound up owing the family a rather sizable amount

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<v Speaker 4>of money. The resolution of this debt requires that you

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<v Speaker 4>now work for the Hassan family as their personal assistant.

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<v Speaker 4>The French say valet. The britsay valette. I say, we

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<v Speaker 4>call the whole thing off anyway. You're a valet working

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<v Speaker 4>in an impressive, established Parisian manner. At the moment, you're

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<v Speaker 4>carrying a silver tray with a jostling tea service setup

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:38.480
<v Speaker 4>balanced atop the tray. You make your way into the

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<v Speaker 4>grand seating room and set down the tea service tray.

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<v Speaker 4>Seated like an emperor on his decorative couch, is the host,

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<v Speaker 4>Isaac Hassan. He's busy discussing business with his guests, a

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<v Speaker 4>pair of brothers named Thornton, Russell, and Ernest, and a

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<v Speaker 4>pair of rough around the edges South African ostrich farmers

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<v Speaker 4>named Smith and Baker. You didn't catch their first names.

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<v Speaker 4>You know how mister Hassan likes his tea, so you

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<v Speaker 4>prepare his tea cup first. For pouring the hot contents

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<v Speaker 4>into the delicate bone china teacup, You add a splash

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<v Speaker 4>of milk a touch of honey. You add a teaspoon

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<v Speaker 4>to the saucer and hand the tea to mister Hassan

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<v Speaker 4>in mid speech. He accepts the tea with barely a glance,

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<v Speaker 4>old habit as he addresses his guest. You ask Russell

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<v Speaker 4>Thornton if he'd like tea. He nods in the affirmative.

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<v Speaker 4>You pour his and you ask if he'd care for

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<v Speaker 4>milk or honey.

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<v Speaker 2>He says both. As you add the splash of.

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<v Speaker 4>Milk and a teaspoonful of honey, you overhear the most salient.

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<v Speaker 2>Points from their conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't know it, but these men have come to

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<v Speaker 4>have a top secret meeting with your boss, prominent feather

0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 4>trader Isaac Hassan. Obviously, being in the feather business yourself,

0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:46.479
<v Speaker 4>you do know that Hassan is a notable Parisian feather

0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 4>merchant who hails from a distinguished family of feather merchants

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<v Speaker 4>dating back for at least a century, generations of Hassans

0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:56.480
<v Speaker 4>have traded feathers in the markets and stalls of Paris.

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<v Speaker 4>Over that time, the family has developed personal connections to

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<v Speaker 4>trade networks that extend from North Africa across the Sahara

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<v Speaker 4>Deep into the French territories of Sub Saharan West Africa.

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<v Speaker 4>After you hand Russell Thornton his tea, you hear mister

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<v Speaker 4>Hassan boast for his guests that over the century of

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<v Speaker 4>his family's involvement in their lucrative international feather trade, the

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<v Speaker 4>Hassans have watched as the trade that once passed through

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<v Speaker 4>countries and territories controlled by the Ottoman Empire have witnessed

0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:30.240
<v Speaker 4>this once vast empire crumble into independent satellite nations, now

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:34.080
<v Speaker 4>ripe for the European powers to pick over all. Very

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<v Speaker 4>sad you ask, Ernest.

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<v Speaker 2>Thornton if he'd care for tea? He shakes his head.

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<v Speaker 4>You step to the veteran South African ostrich farmers who

0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:44.960
<v Speaker 4>wear their dirty leather boots in the sitting room. You

0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:47.720
<v Speaker 4>know you're going to be cleaning up dried mud clumps

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 4>from god knows where later today. You politely smile and

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:54.319
<v Speaker 4>ask if the ostrich farmers would care for tea. They

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:56.879
<v Speaker 4>both nod in the affirmative. As you pour the tea,

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<v Speaker 4>You listen to mister Hassan continue his boasts as he

0:39:59.880 --> 0:40:02.680
<v Speaker 4>just describes how the Hassan family of feather merchants still

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<v Speaker 4>operate their trade network with the help of North African officials,

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:09.319
<v Speaker 4>but the trade through Tripoli has fallen off, and now

0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:12.239
<v Speaker 4>they must deal with the layer of French bureaucracy and

0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:15.719
<v Speaker 4>a layer of bribes for those same bureaucrats. This is

0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:18.839
<v Speaker 4>all eating into the family's once great profits and they

0:40:18.840 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 4>would like to move on from the international feather trade.

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<v Speaker 4>Times have changed. You ask mister Smith, the ostrich farmer

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<v Speaker 4>milk honey. He nods violently, Your boss. Mister Hassan continues

0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:32.839
<v Speaker 4>to sing the praises of his family. They're savvy, as

0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 4>it explains that the Hassan family plans not only to

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:37.479
<v Speaker 4>get out of the feather trade, but to sell out

0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:39.759
<v Speaker 4>to get out while the getting is good. Do you

0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:42.400
<v Speaker 4>think that should have been my choice? You concentrate on

0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:44.719
<v Speaker 4>handing the tea to mister Smith. Next you begin to

0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:48.440
<v Speaker 4>approach mister Boucher with tea as Isaac Hassan tells this

0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 4>gathered heist team that he is fully prepared to help

0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:55.680
<v Speaker 4>the South Africans with their African ostriche adventure.

0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:58.279
<v Speaker 2>For a price. He tells him he is prepared to

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<v Speaker 2>sell what he knows he will arrange safe.

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<v Speaker 4>Passage thanks to the family's network of contacts across North

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<v Speaker 4>and West Africa, but again for a price. Then he

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:10.759
<v Speaker 4>dangles the best he has to offer. He promises to

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:14.239
<v Speaker 4>connect these adventures with the Emir in the land, a

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:17.799
<v Speaker 4>powerful man who will provide them protection, and promises that

0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:20.840
<v Speaker 4>if he can find and buy ostriches, they can safely

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:23.520
<v Speaker 4>get them out of the country. Because finding and buying

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 4>them is only half the challenge. The harder part will

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:29.560
<v Speaker 4>be the ostriche drive from North central Africa south to

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:32.560
<v Speaker 4>the rail lines and onto the coast, he says the bandits,

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:36.200
<v Speaker 4>he tells them, the raiders African highwaymen, nomads. They will

0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:39.440
<v Speaker 4>all pose challenges. The protection of the Emir will be

0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:43.919
<v Speaker 4>most necessary. And again for a price. You hand mister

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<v Speaker 4>Baker his tea, but he's not looking in your direction. Instead,

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:50.320
<v Speaker 4>he's focused on Isaac is Shan and his cheshire cat Grin.

0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:53.760
<v Speaker 4>The irritated South African ostrich farmer is short tempered, apparently

0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:54.680
<v Speaker 4>also kind of cheap.

0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:56.879
<v Speaker 2>He asks how much is all this going to cost?

0:41:56.920 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 4>And he gesticulates wildly, hitting the tea cup you're offering.

0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:03.680
<v Speaker 4>The teacup goes flying. The hot, milky sweet contents hit

0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:06.080
<v Speaker 4>you right in the moomoo.

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Because you're wearing a very tasteful silk and mumoo.

0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 4>Now there's a hot stain blooming right in the center

0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:13.160
<v Speaker 4>of your chest, and the ostrich farmer sees this. He

0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 4>doesn't even apologize. Instead, he starts to laugh. That makes

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:18.799
<v Speaker 4>the other ostrich farmer start to laugh, which makes the

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 4>other two from the heightst team also burst into up

0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:21.800
<v Speaker 4>Rorya's laughter.

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:25.440
<v Speaker 2>You stand there wondering what have you done to deserve

0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:26.040
<v Speaker 2>your fate?

0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:28.279
<v Speaker 4>You try to make a little money in the international

0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:32.200
<v Speaker 4>feather market, and now look at you. So there you

0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:34.640
<v Speaker 4>go Elizabeth, the taste dore we have in store for us.

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<v Speaker 4>Take a little break and after this we will get

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:54.560
<v Speaker 4>to Africa.

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<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth.

0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:03.880
<v Speaker 4>After tessful meeting with the mysterious feather merchant, your former boss,

0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:07.240
<v Speaker 4>Isaac Cassan, and after they meet his price, the great

0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Ostridge heightst team is now ready for their raid. The

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:12.480
<v Speaker 4>team set sail for the coast of West Africa. They

0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:15.759
<v Speaker 4>arrive in the British colony of Nigeria. From there, they

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:20.759
<v Speaker 4>travel north on a riverboat, Very Colonel Kirks, It's a

0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:23.719
<v Speaker 4>five hundred mile trek up the Niger River. After that

0:43:24.080 --> 0:43:26.200
<v Speaker 4>arduous leg of their adventure, they step off in this

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:28.799
<v Speaker 4>little town of Borrow at the river's edge. From there

0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:30.919
<v Speaker 4>they board a train and they travel to a city

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:33.960
<v Speaker 4>called Kano. It's a major trading point for the mini

0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:36.600
<v Speaker 4>trans Saharan camel caravans that are crossing.

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:39.040
<v Speaker 3>So do you think they just have like trunks and

0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:40.160
<v Speaker 3>trunks of stuff.

0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:43.279
<v Speaker 4>I think they do, so picture that just like a

0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:46.840
<v Speaker 4>camel caravan behind them. So when they arrive, Russell Thornton

0:43:46.840 --> 0:43:49.919
<v Speaker 4>starts inspecting the local ostridge feathers on offer to see

0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:51.560
<v Speaker 4>if any of them are close to the quality he's

0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:55.080
<v Speaker 4>looking for, and he recorded in his journal those from

0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:57.960
<v Speaker 4>Zinder are the right type. According to all evidence, the

0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 4>right type of feathers are from the French territory. So

0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:03.200
<v Speaker 4>he finds out that the ones being traded and filtering

0:44:03.239 --> 0:44:05.920
<v Speaker 4>into this area from further north over the line in

0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:09.359
<v Speaker 4>French territory are perfect. They have confirmation, right, Yeah, they

0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:11.919
<v Speaker 4>got that good good. So, emboldened by this, he sends

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:14.840
<v Speaker 4>word back to his bosses in South Africa. He reports

0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:18.080
<v Speaker 4>that their trek has found success. They ask for official

0:44:18.120 --> 0:44:21.160
<v Speaker 4>permission to sneak over the border into the French territory

0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:25.120
<v Speaker 4>and steal these prize barbary ostriches, and then they wait

0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:27.640
<v Speaker 4>for word from the folks back home in South Africa.

0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:30.879
<v Speaker 4>Now at this point, they're languishing right on the edge

0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:33.640
<v Speaker 4>of the French colonial border, hoping nobody hears about them,

0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:35.880
<v Speaker 4>and they're killing time in the top of Nigeria and

0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:39.240
<v Speaker 4>British territory, yeah right, and buying up ostrich feathers, trying

0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:41.440
<v Speaker 4>to lay low and not let anyone find out about.

0:44:41.280 --> 0:44:44.920
<v Speaker 3>Their true Everybody knows they're there, like the word has

0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:45.960
<v Speaker 3>to have spread.

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:48.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh totally. I mean, they stick out like the preferbial

0:44:48.160 --> 0:44:49.200
<v Speaker 2>sword thumb Yeah, yeah.

0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:51.359
<v Speaker 4>And their pith helmets walking around going anybody have any

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:54.319
<v Speaker 4>ostrich feathers now. Thornton and his team, as I said,

0:44:54.360 --> 0:44:56.920
<v Speaker 4>they're chilling, trying to keep busy, and they're buying up everything,

0:44:56.960 --> 0:44:59.879
<v Speaker 4>so they're kind of marks. But after six weeks of this,

0:45:00.680 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 4>their impromptu shopping spree INDs because they get word from

0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:06.279
<v Speaker 4>the South African officials they are approved for.

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:10.640
<v Speaker 2>A clandestine operation into French territory. They're told that they're

0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:13.719
<v Speaker 2>operating budget is seven thousand pounds sterling. That's estimated to

0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:15.759
<v Speaker 2>be enough to buy a flock of one hundred and

0:45:15.920 --> 0:45:20.440
<v Speaker 2>fifty high quality barbary ostriches if need be, otherwise grabbed them.

0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:21.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah right.

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:24.400
<v Speaker 4>The South African authorities also informed Thornton that if he

0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:27.759
<v Speaker 4>or any of US heist team are caught in French territory,

0:45:27.840 --> 0:45:30.760
<v Speaker 4>the mission will be disavowed and the government will disavow.

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Them as well. Oh wow, it's very ostriche based mission. Impossible, Yeah,

0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:35.520
<v Speaker 2>real to.

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:39.840
<v Speaker 3>Something like It's really something like that, the impossible mission family.

0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:44.240
<v Speaker 4>Now it's co time, Elizabeth. So the expedition, they sneak

0:45:44.239 --> 0:45:46.759
<v Speaker 4>over the French colonial border. They travel one hundred and

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:50.839
<v Speaker 4>fifty miles more north into the semi arid landscape right

0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:53.319
<v Speaker 4>below the Sahara Desert. They arrive at a place called

0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:55.719
<v Speaker 4>Fort Zender. This is now basically in Niger, what we

0:45:55.760 --> 0:45:58.440
<v Speaker 4>would think of his niche. They pretend to be ranchers

0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:01.319
<v Speaker 4>who've heard about ostriches and just innotantly looking to buy

0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:03.880
<v Speaker 4>a few for their place back home. And yes we

0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:07.560
<v Speaker 4>are English. The French authorities hear about these strangers looking

0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:08.320
<v Speaker 4>by ostriches.

0:46:08.320 --> 0:46:08.960
<v Speaker 2>They zoom over.

0:46:09.080 --> 0:46:11.200
<v Speaker 4>Now, this could be big trouble for them, obviously, because

0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:14.680
<v Speaker 4>they're gonna be disavowed. The Ostrich heist team gets lucky

0:46:14.880 --> 0:46:17.160
<v Speaker 4>the French authorities. They don't arrest them, which they could

0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:20.280
<v Speaker 4>have done. Instead, they just tell the prospective Ostrich farmers,

0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:24.799
<v Speaker 4>no get going. So the French is already they're rightly suspicious, right,

0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:28.160
<v Speaker 4>They just tell these like Ostrich appreciators beat it now.

0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:30.480
<v Speaker 4>The Ostrich high team they get turned away without their

0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:33.320
<v Speaker 4>coveted flock of one hundred and fifty ostriches. They're forced

0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:36.080
<v Speaker 4>to leave French territory. They literally like take them back.

0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:38.120
<v Speaker 4>They're like get out, yeah, and they're turned back. They

0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:41.640
<v Speaker 4>have to march south to British territory with French spies

0:46:41.680 --> 0:46:45.400
<v Speaker 4>following them whole time. They may and possibly there's rumors

0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:47.640
<v Speaker 4>that American spies are also following them, trying because they've

0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:50.040
<v Speaker 4>been kidding, they're piggybacking the operation, trying.

0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:50.960
<v Speaker 2>To find them ahead of them.

0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:53.360
<v Speaker 4>So there's also American spies that are shadowing them the

0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:53.839
<v Speaker 4>whole time.

0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:56.320
<v Speaker 3>If they're not traveling incognitio.

0:46:56.880 --> 0:46:58.920
<v Speaker 4>There's like groups of white men following each up to

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:03.359
<v Speaker 4>the ground. Central Africa. Yeah, in the arid areas where

0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:05.520
<v Speaker 4>there's nothing on the horizon until you just see like

0:47:05.680 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 4>just out of the heat that's dissipating. All of a sudden,

0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:09.000
<v Speaker 4>people on.

0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:12.400
<v Speaker 3>The show up with this caravan of all their stuff.

0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:14.719
<v Speaker 2>Exactly a train of stuff.

0:47:14.360 --> 0:47:16.080
<v Speaker 3>Buying up Ostrich feathers.

0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:18.759
<v Speaker 2>If they're lucky that bandits just don't rob them every day.

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:22.399
<v Speaker 3>Talk an Ostrich everywhere exact rather than being like I'm sorry,

0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:24.000
<v Speaker 3>what is that. No, I'm not familiar with that. I

0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:26.520
<v Speaker 3>don't know her, and then you just go about your

0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:28.120
<v Speaker 3>business and then zoink he grab some.

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:31.480
<v Speaker 4>Frenchworn legion runs them out of the country. So somewhere

0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:33.880
<v Speaker 4>along the way, the Ostrich ized team they do manage

0:47:33.920 --> 0:47:36.360
<v Speaker 4>to score some ostriches, not the flock they wanted, but

0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:38.799
<v Speaker 4>at least they don't come away empty handed as far

0:47:38.840 --> 0:47:40.759
<v Speaker 4>as what they get. The flock they came away with.

0:47:40.920 --> 0:47:44.840
<v Speaker 4>Many suspect that their business partner Hassan coordinated with contacts

0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:47.440
<v Speaker 4>with the local emir. Yeah, to sneak around and get

0:47:47.480 --> 0:47:49.239
<v Speaker 4>some barbary ones. And it's like, don't worry you guys

0:47:49.239 --> 0:47:50.319
<v Speaker 4>messed up, I'll take care of it.

0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:52.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's the idea, right, so.

0:47:52.520 --> 0:47:54.279
<v Speaker 3>And then they would owe him big yeah.

0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:57.480
<v Speaker 4>But apparently it was sketch getting back, because there are

0:47:57.520 --> 0:48:00.680
<v Speaker 4>reports in letters home from like one of the expert

0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:04.640
<v Speaker 4>ostrich farmers, they one named Smith Totally. He rides back

0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:07.120
<v Speaker 4>to his family like, dearest Emily, I survived the raids

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:10.240
<v Speaker 4>into French territory and then racing back to British territory

0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:12.520
<v Speaker 4>with our legal ostriches. We were set upon by no

0:48:12.640 --> 0:48:15.799
<v Speaker 4>mad tribes, possibly the Berbers, I'm not quite sure. And

0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:18.359
<v Speaker 4>then he also mentions conflicts with the French army. They

0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:21.440
<v Speaker 4>were shooting at them. Apparently whatever did happen as they

0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:24.080
<v Speaker 4>made their raids and snuck back and forth across the border,

0:48:24.080 --> 0:48:25.640
<v Speaker 4>because apparently that's what they had to do.

0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:28.399
<v Speaker 2>The Ostrich team eventually procures.

0:48:27.880 --> 0:48:30.880
<v Speaker 4>All the ostriches thereafter, and once they have their birds,

0:48:31.120 --> 0:48:34.720
<v Speaker 4>they take this ostridge drive and trek hundreds of miles

0:48:34.760 --> 0:48:37.920
<v Speaker 4>south back to Nigeria. So imagine a cattle drive, but

0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:39.040
<v Speaker 4>it's all ostriches.

0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:40.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh god, right.

0:48:40.440 --> 0:48:43.360
<v Speaker 4>Now I have to remind you ostriches can run faster

0:48:43.520 --> 0:48:46.440
<v Speaker 4>than horses. Yeah, so you have to imagine that was a.

0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:49.360
<v Speaker 2>Crazy ostriche drive to back to Nigeria.

0:48:49.600 --> 0:48:52.480
<v Speaker 3>Who's like, did they pick up a local?

0:48:53.600 --> 0:48:54.200
<v Speaker 2>They definitely had some.

0:48:54.239 --> 0:48:57.400
<v Speaker 4>Look the long sticks beating the earth and going not

0:48:57.440 --> 0:48:58.359
<v Speaker 4>that way, not that way.

0:48:58.400 --> 0:49:01.760
<v Speaker 3>Imagine pick up you know, some sheep dogs.

0:49:01.800 --> 0:49:02.640
<v Speaker 2>You definitely need some better.

0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:06.360
<v Speaker 4>You can't just rely on two South African Ostrich farmers.

0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:09.359
<v Speaker 4>So so we do know it was this whole thing's

0:49:09.360 --> 0:49:12.520
<v Speaker 4>fraught with challenges, right because also heist team leader Forton,

0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:14.319
<v Speaker 4>he gets cut down by malaria.

0:49:14.400 --> 0:49:16.920
<v Speaker 2>So now he can't walk, he can't ride a horse,

0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:17.719
<v Speaker 2>he can't do it.

0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:18.960
<v Speaker 3>Hes to be carried.

0:49:19.160 --> 0:49:20.480
<v Speaker 2>So now they got to get more people.

0:49:20.719 --> 0:49:23.520
<v Speaker 4>They PLoP them into a hammock and have to heft

0:49:23.600 --> 0:49:26.680
<v Speaker 4>him hundreds of miles back to friendly British territory.

0:49:27.280 --> 0:49:31.080
<v Speaker 3>Crazy everyone that's malaria. But like really, he's just tired

0:49:31.080 --> 0:49:32.399
<v Speaker 3>of walking.

0:49:32.719 --> 0:49:34.680
<v Speaker 2>I think I've turned my ankle. I'm gonna have to

0:49:35.040 --> 0:49:35.839
<v Speaker 2>have a lie down.

0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:40.000
<v Speaker 4>So the Ostrich's ized team they make it back over

0:49:40.040 --> 0:49:43.399
<v Speaker 4>the border with their crazy Ostrich cattle drive and uh,

0:49:43.520 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 4>we make it back into what's now Nigeria. They load

0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:48.359
<v Speaker 4>up a flock of their contraband ostriches. They border train

0:49:48.440 --> 0:49:50.719
<v Speaker 4>to Lagos. That's what the big port is. So the

0:49:50.760 --> 0:49:53.759
<v Speaker 4>train cars are modified to carry these ostriches. I like

0:49:53.800 --> 0:49:55.760
<v Speaker 4>to imagine it like a circus train where the ostriches

0:49:55.800 --> 0:49:58.279
<v Speaker 4>are poking their heads out of the top right, just

0:49:58.480 --> 0:50:00.880
<v Speaker 4>like a blossom of ostrich heads. So up the one

0:50:00.920 --> 0:50:03.560
<v Speaker 4>hundred and fifty ostriches they set out with one hundred

0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:07.640
<v Speaker 4>and forty survived the Ostriche cattle drive, the train ride

0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:10.120
<v Speaker 4>to the coast, and then the ship voyage down to

0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:10.680
<v Speaker 4>Cape Town.

0:50:10.920 --> 0:50:11.200
<v Speaker 2>Not bad.

0:50:11.200 --> 0:50:13.239
<v Speaker 4>One hundred and forty eight hundred put if you can

0:50:13.280 --> 0:50:15.520
<v Speaker 4>believe it. When they arrive in South Africa, the ship

0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:19.200
<v Speaker 4>is met and feted like the arrival of conquering heroes.

0:50:19.719 --> 0:50:22.000
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, they had done it. They'd trekked off into

0:50:22.040 --> 0:50:25.400
<v Speaker 4>unknown thens and come back with a flock of coveted ostriches.

0:50:25.800 --> 0:50:28.160
<v Speaker 4>Everyone knows this marks the birth of a new wave

0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:33.239
<v Speaker 4>of generational wealth for the South African ostrich industry. Except Elizabeth,

0:50:33.520 --> 0:50:36.440
<v Speaker 4>life is funny, fun Just when you think you have

0:50:36.480 --> 0:50:38.279
<v Speaker 4>it all figured out. You've done the hard thing, the

0:50:38.320 --> 0:50:41.719
<v Speaker 4>illegal thing, the impossible task, you survive the trek, You've

0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:45.520
<v Speaker 4>come home, the conquering hero, and then just two years later,

0:50:45.920 --> 0:50:49.200
<v Speaker 4>the bottom drops out of the ostrich feather market and

0:50:49.239 --> 0:50:53.279
<v Speaker 4>you'll lose everything. It's like a modern Creek myth, like

0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:56.080
<v Speaker 4>a Paul Thomas Anderson Marietta. The twist of fate was

0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:57.759
<v Speaker 4>there to be seen for those with the right eyes

0:50:57.760 --> 0:51:00.839
<v Speaker 4>to see it, like Hassan getting out of the industry,

0:51:01.120 --> 0:51:03.359
<v Speaker 4>or ears to hear it, you see, Elizabeth. At the time,

0:51:03.400 --> 0:51:04.840
<v Speaker 4>there was a little something called the birth of the

0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:09.400
<v Speaker 4>animal rights movement. Energy for the movement was the wholesale

0:51:09.400 --> 0:51:12.239
<v Speaker 4>slaughter of birds around the world to power the wig

0:51:12.320 --> 0:51:15.280
<v Speaker 4>and later hat industries with their brilliant and exact feathers.

0:51:15.760 --> 0:51:19.320
<v Speaker 4>So whole bird populations were being extincted in pursuit of

0:51:19.360 --> 0:51:23.200
<v Speaker 4>their fine feathers. So as a result, when photographic evidence

0:51:23.239 --> 0:51:26.840
<v Speaker 4>to go gets published of this industrial scale bird slaughter

0:51:26.920 --> 0:51:29.520
<v Speaker 4>that's happened now where people can't see it. The response

0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:33.400
<v Speaker 4>from animal lovers and decent people is tremendous and it

0:51:33.440 --> 0:51:36.960
<v Speaker 4>all comes down to this Australian ornithologist named Arthur Mattingly.

0:51:37.400 --> 0:51:40.720
<v Speaker 2>He no relations to don He tramped into the wild.

0:51:40.880 --> 0:51:44.480
<v Speaker 4>He photographs this widespread devastation that's occurring in the natural environment.

0:51:44.520 --> 0:51:44.640
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:47.360
<v Speaker 4>I've been talking like these feather hunters are just wrecking shop.

0:51:47.560 --> 0:51:50.360
<v Speaker 4>And he photographs the slaughter of adult egrets and herons

0:51:50.440 --> 0:51:51.759
<v Speaker 4>them in Australia.

0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:55.480
<v Speaker 3>Like killing them and then pulling the feathers.

0:51:55.680 --> 0:51:57.759
<v Speaker 4>The chicks don't have good feathers, so they leave all

0:51:57.800 --> 0:51:59.480
<v Speaker 4>these chicks to die. So he has all these empty

0:51:59.520 --> 0:52:02.040
<v Speaker 4>nests with the adults have been taken and it's just starving.

0:52:03.200 --> 0:52:07.000
<v Speaker 4>Photos get published an article called Plundered for their Plumes.

0:52:07.400 --> 0:52:10.400
<v Speaker 4>It's syndicated published around the world. Huge uproar in Europe,

0:52:10.480 --> 0:52:14.720
<v Speaker 4>mainly in the UK, USA, France, Spain, Netherlands, Denmark responsor.

0:52:14.800 --> 0:52:18.880
<v Speaker 4>The article it galvanizes a movement. It changes the opinion

0:52:18.920 --> 0:52:21.720
<v Speaker 4>of these delicate beauty of the feathers. Yeah, they become

0:52:21.840 --> 0:52:25.120
<v Speaker 4>like blood diamonds, is blood feathers.

0:52:24.239 --> 0:52:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Or like a fur code totally exactly.

0:52:26.640 --> 0:52:30.239
<v Speaker 4>It's very og furs murder. Yeah, right, So soon organizations

0:52:30.320 --> 0:52:33.400
<v Speaker 4>are formed to protect birds. In particular, these two American women,

0:52:33.680 --> 0:52:37.200
<v Speaker 4>Mental Hall and Harriet Hemanway, who founded the what Audubon

0:52:37.360 --> 0:52:40.640
<v Speaker 4>Society you called it now, they led popular boycotts of

0:52:40.680 --> 0:52:43.279
<v Speaker 4>feathers and the hats that people wear them. And they

0:52:43.320 --> 0:52:46.840
<v Speaker 4>also had no imitation feathers, the whole thing. We're against

0:52:46.880 --> 0:52:48.960
<v Speaker 4>it right right over in the UK they have the

0:52:49.040 --> 0:52:52.200
<v Speaker 4>Royal Society for the Protection of Birds. They're together, working

0:52:52.280 --> 0:52:54.840
<v Speaker 4>with both sides of the Atlantic. They lobby against this

0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:58.680
<v Speaker 4>wholesale slaughter. The millinery industry and the wigmakers take it

0:52:58.719 --> 0:52:59.560
<v Speaker 4>on the chinch.

0:52:59.600 --> 0:52:59.839
<v Speaker 6>Sure.

0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:04.040
<v Speaker 4>This leads to a wave of pamphlets, public lectures, magazine articles, books.

0:53:04.040 --> 0:53:07.440
<v Speaker 4>The whole tide turns against them. Now remember the Transaharan

0:53:07.480 --> 0:53:10.879
<v Speaker 4>Ostrich heist. Yeah, went down in nineteen eleven. Yeah, by

0:53:10.960 --> 0:53:14.839
<v Speaker 4>nineteen thirteen, the international feather market is in free fall.

0:53:14.880 --> 0:53:19.600
<v Speaker 4>Feather markets, yes, the feather markets are once huge, selling

0:53:19.640 --> 0:53:22.680
<v Speaker 4>bird plumage. Right, like flower markets would sell flowers, they

0:53:22.719 --> 0:53:25.240
<v Speaker 4>close up shop. You can't even find them happening anymore.

0:53:25.440 --> 0:53:27.879
<v Speaker 4>The buyers just aren't there. The popularity is on the wane.

0:53:28.120 --> 0:53:30.759
<v Speaker 4>But a couple factors other than the animal rights that

0:53:30.840 --> 0:53:32.680
<v Speaker 4>killed it are all they all convene at.

0:53:32.640 --> 0:53:35.080
<v Speaker 2>The right time. Because one year later, in nineteen fourteen

0:53:35.160 --> 0:53:36.279
<v Speaker 2>World War One.

0:53:36.480 --> 0:53:39.360
<v Speaker 4>All those big ornate, brightly feathered hats, they look really

0:53:39.360 --> 0:53:42.120
<v Speaker 4>at it taste right, The splendor of a feather seemed

0:53:42.120 --> 0:53:44.960
<v Speaker 4>at odds with the industrial horrors of trench warfare, mustard

0:53:45.040 --> 0:53:45.720
<v Speaker 4>gas attacks.

0:53:45.800 --> 0:53:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know what also became the big new bird

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<v Speaker 4>based energy in the culture bird watching?

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<v Speaker 2>This is when bird watching becomes a thing.

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<v Speaker 4>People decide, rather than wear the beauty of the birds,

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<v Speaker 4>why don't we tramp out into the wild, get a

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<v Speaker 4>bit of a walk, experience it for ourselves, bring some

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<v Speaker 4>binoc there's maybe a camera, record the beauty, share it

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<v Speaker 4>with others.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the people who did this becomes a thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Another cultural trend was all those crazy big Victorian era

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<v Speaker 4>hats and the insane plumage. Yeah, well that gets killed

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<v Speaker 4>off because of something with five wheels that goes beep beep.

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<v Speaker 4>The advent of the automobile kills off Victorian fashions, tons

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<v Speaker 4>of them, right, in particular, crazy big ornate hats you

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<v Speaker 4>can rock around in your model tea or your open

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<v Speaker 4>top Duzenberg with some stupid big hat. Another fashion trend

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<v Speaker 4>that also kills off the feather industry, women decided to

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<v Speaker 4>chop off their hair. So when the bob haircut becomes

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<v Speaker 4>a thing in the nineteen teens, that left no purchase

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<v Speaker 4>for those crazy big Victorian hats to sit. So between

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<v Speaker 4>the Great War, the event of the car, and women

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<v Speaker 4>changing fashions and hair and stupid big hats going out,

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<v Speaker 4>and the feather industry just implodes in like two year's time.

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<v Speaker 4>And so you know what, who's left holding a very

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<v Speaker 4>expensive bag? That's right at the South afric agains who'd

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<v Speaker 4>launched their trans Saharan ostroch type to corner the ostrich

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<v Speaker 4>feather market. Oopsies and now of the original flock of

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<v Speaker 4>contraband smuggled ostriches that some survived in South Africa for

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<v Speaker 4>another two and a half decades. The last one, an

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<v Speaker 4>old male, died during World War Two. It's reported he

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<v Speaker 4>died some time between nineteen thirty nine and nineteen forty four,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's also reported he was killed by a lightning strike.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that they know the cause of death really clearly,

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<v Speaker 4>but the time of death five year window park. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we're like, hey, look, there was a war on and

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<v Speaker 4>we were not doing the best of keeping records on

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<v Speaker 4>the deaths of our awn. Yes, yes, I think we

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<v Speaker 4>remember that one. So those highly sought after ostriches that

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<v Speaker 4>were near Fort Zinder and what's now modern Niger. The

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<v Speaker 4>French authorities who never really gave a feather a fig

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<v Speaker 4>about them. Apparently they'd blocked the raiders and the speculators,

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<v Speaker 4>but they didn't safeguard the ostriches.

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<v Speaker 2>So the flock died off.

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<v Speaker 4>Dude over like habitat loss and over hunting. Thanks to colonialism,

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<v Speaker 4>this once prized flock is.

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<v Speaker 2>Now no more. It's extinct. Oops. So this whole story

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<v Speaker 2>is very much Have I ever told you about my

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<v Speaker 2>time in the dark court of Africa?

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<v Speaker 4>You know it just reads of colonialism, exploitation, international games

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<v Speaker 4>being played in far away places. Yes, exactly, and so

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<v Speaker 4>ends our story of the great transaharent ostracized.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the ridiculous takeaway, hey, Elizabeth, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you mentioned blood diamonds, and you think about,

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<v Speaker 3>like how you can grind this feather industry to a

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<v Speaker 3>halt by showing images of starving chicks, and you can

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<v Speaker 3>you know, grind the fur industry to a halt with

0:56:31.680 --> 0:56:34.879
<v Speaker 3>the imagery for that, but we really haven't done enough

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<v Speaker 3>to grind the diamond industry. And it's like those are

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<v Speaker 3>children that they're sending in there, and when you read

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<v Speaker 3>like accounts of it and you see photos and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's so affecting, but it's you know, we're all I'm

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<v Speaker 3>guilty of it too. Where I don't like to watch

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<v Speaker 3>movies where the dog dies. We're a soft touch with

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<v Speaker 3>it when it comes to animals, but the human beings

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<v Speaker 3>and kids, you know, people are able to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>abstractify things.

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<v Speaker 4>We have all these animal rights activists working looking for

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<v Speaker 4>animal animals at this time while children are working in

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<v Speaker 4>factories losing their fingers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, exactly exactly. But you know, we like, we like

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<v Speaker 3>kids in theory. I find when it actually comes to

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<v Speaker 3>saving a kid, not so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Take away, Oh, Elizabeth, I feel so refreshed. Man, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't believe me. Ask my ridiculous takeaway is fashion? Man,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a killer. Huh, that's good. I just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>find it really amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>I was, you know, I went from one rabbit hole

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<v Speaker 4>or one you know, wormhole or whatever holes to another

0:57:37.360 --> 0:57:39.440
<v Speaker 4>of like fashion crimes, and I think I found a

0:57:39.480 --> 0:57:41.320
<v Speaker 4>couple others while I was doing this research. I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>going to immediately jump on them, but like it's just amazing,

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<v Speaker 4>like once something has value.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's why I just don't trust crypto. So

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<v Speaker 2>there you go.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes with you anyway, it's the feather market right now.

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<v Speaker 4>So do you in the mood for a talkback?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you favorites with one? Please?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>God?

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<v Speaker 6>Hell, Hi Elizabeth, Saraen, and Dave. This is your friend

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<v Speaker 6>Renee thinking about your episode on Parkour. I've been watching

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<v Speaker 6>Vertico today and the first scene teaches us that Jimmy

0:58:28.280 --> 0:58:32.520
<v Speaker 6>Stewart is really really bad at Parkour. Hope you guys

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<v Speaker 6>are doing good bye bye.

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<v Speaker 3>It is it is. That is the lesson every Windows

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<v Speaker 3>cock wanted us to know. Yes, yes, yes, yes, so

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<v Speaker 3>as always.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you can find us online at Ridiculous Crime on

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<v Speaker 4>the social media, it's mostly Blue Sky and Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we also have a Ridiculous Crime pod on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>Go check that out. They're dope. They're animated. You can

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<v Speaker 4>And we have a website, ridicular Crime dot com, which

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<v Speaker 4>just won I believe an award from Willie Nelson for

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<v Speaker 2>You're kidding, Yeah, we beat Willie's reserve. We beat his

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<v Speaker 4>I used to sell feathers at the seashore until that

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