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Speaker 1: you by Bally Bet, coming soon to Ohio on ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Tagura. Welcome

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Speaker 1: in to Cleveland Brown's Day. He brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Bally Beck, coming soon to Ohio. Nathan's gur and give

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Speaker 1: a here in Barria. And we are joined by Brown's

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Speaker 1: the host of the Next Level as well, Gerade Cherry,

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Speaker 1: joining us live from Arizona, site of the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: this Sunday. Coming up on today's show, we'll have Gard

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Speaker 1: with you for the first hour. We're gonna take a

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Speaker 1: look at the safety room. You're also going to look

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Speaker 1: at some of the best prop bets for this Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl as well. And then at two o'clock New Brown's

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Speaker 1: will go around the league, plus will have Adam Tighter

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Speaker 1: joined the program via the Twisted Tea Hotline. The ESPN

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Speaker 1: NFL Nation Chiefs Reporter that comes up at two thirty

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Speaker 1: and obviously we gotta talk a little bit about the

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Speaker 1: welcome to the show. How are you doing and what's

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Speaker 1: Hanging out in Tempe in Glendale been Trippman so meant?

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Speaker 1: It is incredible here, Nathan. I'm here to tell you

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Speaker 1: I've never I'm a foodie, never great food. More restaurants

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Speaker 1: it's stunningly beautiful. You got Camelback Mount and you've got

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Speaker 1: He has been very very good for the Browns at times,

427
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Speaker 1: other times has been some misconsistency. He's been kind of miscastes.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned free safety in l A. He was much

429
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Speaker 1: more close to the line of scrimmage in the slot,

430
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 1: in the box near the football. That's what Grant also

431
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 1: does well. And the Browns at the end kind of

432
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 1: switched Grant to more of a free safety. And you

433
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 1: just wonder, you know, how does Jim Schwartz view this.

434
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Speaker 1: Does Jim Schwartz want to get Grant Delpit in the

435
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Speaker 1: box and pair him with a true center field safety.

436
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 1: And if he's able to do that, what does that

437
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,479
Speaker 1: mean for John Johnson who has been a leader on

438
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Speaker 1: this team, the leader on the defense. He's been you know,

439
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 1: obviously to a Super Bowl with the rams um. But

440
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,239
Speaker 1: the Browns would save nine point seven five million if

441
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Speaker 1: they cut him after June one with a June post

442
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 1: June first designation, So is that something they're considering. We

443
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Speaker 1: that's what we have to look at. The only other

444
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Speaker 1: safety on the roster the Anthony belt the the undrafted

445
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,439
Speaker 1: free agent who made the team last year who had

446
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 1: twelve tackles solo tackles in sixteen games. Reserved list is

447
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 1: Bubba Bold and Ronnie Harrison likely will not be back.

448
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 1: He kind of I don't know what happened to Ronnie.

449
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 1: He was so good in twenty and then the last

450
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Speaker 1: two years is just it hasn't been at that level.

451
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 1: But you know, Grant is back, John Johnson is back.

452
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 1: Could that change? Possibly? But this is another room that's

453
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 1: gonna need a little bit of an infusion of talent

454
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: or just a veteran or somebody who's got some versatility

455
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 1: to be that third or fourth safety. Uh. With Jim Schwartz, Yeah,

456
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 1: you certainly need that element in there. And yes, it's

457
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,479
Speaker 1: gonna be a hard decision to make because you hear

458
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: nine million dollars and again, with nine million dollars, you

459
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: want a certain level of production now that tackles are there.

460
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: But from experience, I know that you're not gonna weigh

461
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 1: tackles on the same levels you're gonna weigh in pass

462
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 1: defended interceptions, sacks and things that tackles for loss. Those

463
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 1: things factor in for you to make that type of money.

464
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 1: And is the potential there for John to do those things?

465
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 1: Yes they are. And at the same time, there were

466
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 1: there ways in which John can leave doubt into the

467
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 1: decision for the Browns. Of course you can, because there

468
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: are certain situations whereas like John, You're you're veteran, You're

469
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: not making you don't make that play. You don't make

470
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: that decision, especially if you're the guy responsible for calling

471
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: the calls out of the huddle. But then there are

472
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 1: times we're like John, that is an excellent play. That

473
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: was an excellent decision. So it calls comes right back

474
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 1: again to this idea of consistency. Really is what it

475
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: boils down to. And have they seen enough to trust

476
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: that he can be consistent? Because if he's consistent, Nathan

477
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,640
Speaker 1: and playing the way that he's capable of playing, then

478
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: I have no problem with that salary. Agreed, Agreed, It's

479
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: a it's a good point you make, just to point

480
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 1: out over the final UH four games of the season,

481
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: Grant helt But was the number six safety at Pro

482
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: Football Focus, number six in coverage as well John Johnson

483
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: waste overall and in coverage. John Johnson was tenth. So

484
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 1: they finished the season strong. We need to see more

485
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: though going forward. Give me one word to describe the

486
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: Brown safety is this past season drawn, inconsistent or just

487
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 1: call for what is worth it? Mean? Times like That's

488
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about? Yeah, fired up? And this across

489
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 1: the board it wasn't just John, it wasn't just delp It,

490
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: but you also bring Ronnie into the into the equation

491
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 1: and what that represented, And unfortunately a lot of times

492
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 1: it was just inconsistent play. Where where's the communication going

493
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 1: on between you and the cornerbacks? Why are we still

494
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: having blown coverages in year three of a defense? And

495
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 1: that's hard to explain and ascertain and then accept. So

496
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: that played a part in it. And then from a

497
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: run fit standpoint, what are we doing? Why are we

498
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: not lined up in the right places? Because ultimately, Nathan,

499
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 1: that is the job of the safety to be that

500
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 1: quarterback in the secondary to make sure guys are doing

501
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: the right things from a run foot standpoint, even if

502
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: it's the linebackers, and obviously from a past cover standpoint,

503
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: you have to be on the same page and communicating that.

504
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: So ultimately, I would say inconsistent because there are times

505
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 1: where it's like, this is beautiful, this is what I'm

506
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 1: talking about, this is encouraging, this can be dominating, domineering,

507
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 1: and then there are times like what in the hell

508
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: are we doing? Yeah, I said, promising, but also frustrating,

509
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: because I think you saw the Grant Delpit could be

510
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: a star in this movie. And we've seen it over

511
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: the second half of the season in each of the

512
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: last two years. You just need to see it for

513
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: a full season then he can get really excited and

514
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 1: saying with John more consistency, I think your word was

515
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 1: was right on the money. Uh, what's your level of

516
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: importance this offseason for this position to be improved? All right, Well,

517
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: I think you have the guys on the roster to

518
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: do it. I think Bell could even play a part

519
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 1: in there as well from the stuff that we that

520
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: we saw in him, but he also had his opportunities,

521
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: and those opportunities I paid close attention to him because

522
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: I like him coming to a training camp. He also

523
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 1: made several mistakes that doesn't help his cause far as

524
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,479
Speaker 1: making the right decisions in open space, so he has

525
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: to work on that. But I do think you have

526
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: the ability and the talent within these guys to get there.

527
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 1: Now becomes a matter of coaches getting in out of

528
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: them and making sure that they stay consistent with it.

529
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: And that is the key. And the thing about it

530
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: is so interesting to me, Nathan, is that I know

531
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,239
Speaker 1: they got good coaches, and that's the part that's like

532
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: you had good coaches. So what are you not doing

533
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 1: or what do you need to do from a paying

534
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: a price standpoint, from a commitment standpoint to get to

535
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: that place to where you are playing on a consistent level,

536
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: yet to get it right so that you can get

537
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 1: the job done. All right, When we come back, we're

538
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: gonna take a look at some of the fun props

539
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: will have give a MC some of the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: fifty seven props, guides, odds picks from more than four

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Speaker 1: hundred Chiefs and Eagles props from sports Line. So that'll

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Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. We'll take a look at

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Speaker 1: get into this props, props and more props. We got

553
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,239
Speaker 1: props for days here on this game. So come on in,

554
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 1: let's talk some props and let's try to help some

555
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: people out. You know, pay attention to the scores now.

556
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: Props are sometimes easier, sometimes harder, you never know. But

557
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: they're always fun. They are always fun, and uh we

558
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: we've got some good ones. Connor found four hundred of them.

559
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: I love it. Props one us a free dinner that

560
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: wasn't free. Yeah, boy did it. Simon and his Shenanigans

561
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 1: and he's a raven now all right. Uh these are

562
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: some game related ones before we get into some of

563
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: the miscellaneous passing touchdowns. Jalen hurts over under is one

564
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: and a half, mahomes over under two and a half. Uh, gerade,

565
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: what say you if you had to prognostic eight, No,

566
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go over one and a half. It hurts.

567
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: He'll get two in and I'll go two and a

568
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: half for mahomes, he'll get three in. All right, So

569
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: Vegas clearly thinks that my homes will be under two

570
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: and a half. That's minus two to take that, which

571
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: means you're laying out two to win a hundred. They

572
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: think that over is a long shot, the biggest long shot.

573
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: Plus one fifty nine. They think Hurts is pretty well spread,

574
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: So you're laying odds on both sides of the Hurts one. Uh.

575
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,239
Speaker 1: If I was to do this, I would probably go

576
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: the under on Hurts and then the over on my

577
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: homes just for fun because the eels are just so

578
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: effective at running the ball in. But I just would

579
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,959
Speaker 1: take it for the odds on my homes to go

580
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: under two and a half are just not worth the

581
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: juice doesn't It's not worth it. It's too the juice

582
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: is too big, too much. I mean that this makes

583
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: it sound like it could be a little lower score. See,

584
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: what I'd be more curious with is to find what

585
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: what they think, like what the m v P and

586
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: I don't know that's in here, because I think those

587
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: are the better odds. Right if you were going to

588
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: say that, look, I think Mahomes is the m v P,

589
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: or if you think Hurts is the m v P.

590
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: I'm curiously what those are odds are relative to to

591
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: messing with these now plus one fifty nine. That's basically

592
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: that's one to remember because if he's the m v p.

593
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: It's likely he's gonna throw I would think for more

594
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: than two and a half touchdowns. So if you get

595
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,239
Speaker 1: better odds on that versus the m v P, then

596
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: maybe I would go there as like an m v

597
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: P bet on Mahomes. All right, some more prop fun.

598
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: Miles Sanders over under fifty nine and a half rushing yards.

599
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that over heat we're talking

600
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: about yesterday dried Miles Sanders almost rushed for yards and

601
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: eleven touchdowns at five yards of carry and nobody at all. Yeah,

602
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that too. I like Pacheco

603
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: as well, just to throw that out there. I like

604
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: Pacheco over forty nine and a half. I think that

605
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: they could try I to run the game, and that

606
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: gives you a little bit of a hedge on on

607
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: the home stuff like Potaco over eleven and a half carries.

608
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: I like that a lot too. So again, some more

609
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: of the prop bets in the receiving yards, and I

610
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: bring up the two wide receivers because we went through

611
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: some of their numbers yesterday, which were mighty impressive considering,

612
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: you know, the Eagles were the best run team in

613
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: the National Football League. A. J. Brown over under was

614
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: seventy one and a half receiving yards, Davante Smith sixty

615
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,479
Speaker 1: one and a half over under on receiving yards. How

616
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: you feeling about that? Ah See, I anticipate it should

617
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: be a defensive battle, but I guess a feeling that

618
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: office is gonna end up at some point taking over

619
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Speaker 1: this game. So I'm gonna say I'm over on everything

620
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: in regards of receiving yards. So I liked overs. You

621
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: like that. I think DeVante Smith at sixty one, I

622
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: like a J. Brown. Those are fine, But what I'm

623
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: more interested in is below that you can go for

624
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: who has the most seaving yards. I think J. Marquess

625
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: Valdes Scantling first of all over thirty five and a half.

626
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: I like that, but plus six hundred to do that,

627
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: and then DeVante Smith plus five hundred to be the

628
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: leading receiver. Or Gottard at tw I like those on

629
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: I think that could be plus three hundred, so good

630
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: value on him. But he's the he's the top favorite,

631
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: and he has the highest total, so they think that

632
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: he will be uh the leader, which that's not a

633
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: bad bet either. For example, I would not put anything

634
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: on Kelsey over or under seventy seven and a half.

635
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: Where you're laying odds, I'd say, okay, I think he's

636
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: getting most in the game at plus three hundred. That's

637
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: a nice little swing at the plate. Reception wise, Uh,

638
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: here are the sim of the prop bets. DeVonta Smith

639
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: over under four and a half receptions in the Super Bowl.

640
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: He's been a catching machine. Here Ine Travis Kelsey is

641
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: over under was six and a half. Hm. Those are tough.

642
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: A J. Brown is only one catch more than Davante

643
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: Smith and was ten yards more. Yeah, although they try

644
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: to get real aggressive with Brown and just put them

645
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: in a situation where it's like you gotta pass, you

646
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: gotta pass, and there's gonna blitz blitz blitz and get

647
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: after my homes. That's that's at least that's the scenario

648
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: I see playing itself out with their ultra aggressive on

649
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: the offense society to get a lead and obviously gonna

650
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: to maintain and keep them stay aggressive. I mean, does

651
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: the party you guys think that, Like Valdes Scantling is

652
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: coming off of a game where he had over a

653
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: hundred yards. I know they had all those injuries and

654
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: Juju is gonna be back but I feel like he

655
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: developed some kind of a rapport with my homes in

656
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: that game, in a critical game where maybe he does

657
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: something I also like. I like the like Quez Watkins

658
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: over one and a half. Maybe they work him in here.

659
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. These are They're fun, they're tough. There's

660
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: so many of these that you could get lost. What great, Yeah,

661
00:32:53,200 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: it's great, all right, Chiefs Eagles, m v P odds. Yeah,

662
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: that's what I want. Let's go to that. I think

663
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: that's three pages past where we were at. Your favorites

664
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: are Hurts of plus homes plus one thirty, all right,

665
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: so you get a little bit better value on my

666
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: homes over two and a half touchdowns. But the value

667
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: for Hurts is is that there. I don't see many

668
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: scenarios in which the Eagles win the Super Bowl and

669
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: he is not the m v P. So that's a

670
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: way to get their money line in a more efficient fashion.

671
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: For you where Sanders at in this conversation. Plus, that's

672
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: a lot give it to Ruddy back, that's a lot. Yeah,

673
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: I don't I don't even want the last time that

674
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: he's not marn Lynch. Who do you think scores the

675
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: first touchdown? By the way, first TD scorer in the game.

676
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: Oh man, h I'm gonna go with Sanders. You could

677
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: do a couple of people here that is, so there's

678
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: some decent value. You can do. Sanders at Kelsey at

679
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: five fifty, got her to D eight fifty, Hurts at

680
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: six hundred, and if one of those hits, if you

681
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: did a hundred on each of them, you're gonna you're

682
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: gonna make money. But if they don't, obviously, then you lose.

683
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's fun. I like that. Oh, let's see

684
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: if I go through these fantastic hold on I don't

685
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: get this hold on a second Jersey number of first

686
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: touchdown score over eleven point five or under eleven point five.

687
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: So they're thinking it's going to be under. So who

688
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: is under a J. Brown's eleven? Right? And Jalen hurts

689
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: his single digits, Pacheco is ten, McKinnon is is under

690
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: Schuster's nine. Interesting, that's a that's a fun one. That's

691
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: actually a pretty cool one. All right, Uh, game props.

692
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: As we fast forward the coin toss, if you had

693
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: to go one way or the other, which way would

694
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: you go? Always never fails? I disagree. Opening kickoff touchback. Yes, no,

695
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: plus I mean, why not? That would be so nervous.

696
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: That's a crazy one to just bet on. Yeah. Uh,

697
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: first play from scrimmage results in the first down. Yes,

698
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: plus three hundred, no minus four hundred. I would definitely

699
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 1: take the Yes. That's a fun one. And you hope

700
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 1: that you got to just hope that they break a tackle.

701
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: I'd imagine it's going to either be a run or

702
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: a conservative, easy rhythm pass. That's what I feel like

703
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: in the first quarter of just trying to get into

704
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: a rhythm and feel each other out, start fire, and

705
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: hey make yeah that one japs. Uh what happens? First

706
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: touchdown or a sack? I like that. Stuff like this

707
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: is crazy. You say sack, Yeah, I think yeah. I

708
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: I like that too. That's where the odds would say,

709
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: yeah as well, first score the game touchdown or a

710
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: field goal slash safety. I'm gonna take a field goal.

711
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: Field goal. Yeah, that goes back to the whole It's

712
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: so funny though. This is like, this is where you

713
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: can find because there are certain things that nobody can know,

714
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: like that, like right here, the first Eagles drive outcome,

715
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: the first Chiefs drive outcomes on the same page. What's

716
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: it for put is for the Chiefs is the minus

717
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: one eight team minus one oh five for the Eagles. So,

718
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: by the way, if you really think that there's a

719
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: chance that a field goal is going to be the

720
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: first score of the game, you just want to take

721
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: the result of both the Eagles first drive and the

722
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: Chiefs first drive at plus or you can just do

723
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 1: the first drive of the game plus four fifty that

724
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: it's a field goal attempt and they don't even have

725
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: to make it. So that's like a better way to

726
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: do it than the first score, but it only limits

727
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: you to one drive. Or you could do it on

728
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: both of their first drives and say that there's gonna

729
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: beet points one of the first two drives. Onto some

730
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: late game props, I like this one the team with

731
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 1: the last possession of the game Eagles or Chiefs both

732
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: their minus one ten. Yeah, because that's that's how could

733
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: you even know? Who do we think? Boys? Eagles kneeling

734
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: down for the victory? Who? I just it's this reminds

735
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: me a little bit though, drat of like last week

736
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 1: when everybody was saying, oh, yeah, the Bengals are gonna

737
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: beat them, and I was like, I was the only

738
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: person I think that took the Chiefs. I'm like, they're

739
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. We're just acting like they're a bunch of jabronies.

740
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: And they went out of one in a convincing question. Yeah,

741
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: this is an interesting one lead change in the final

742
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: minute of the fourth quarter. Oh boy, Yes, plus seven

743
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: under no minus eleven. I mean it's there's no betting

744
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: on the no is insanity because you're just laying out

745
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: too much of money. That's a fun one to hope

746
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: for a good game, to just put like a you know,

747
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: a shekel on and see what happens. That's right. We're

748
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: not encouraging any last play the game quarterback rush, yes

749
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: or no. So that's saying the winning team has the

750
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: ball last, which they might not. Yeah, uh, kicking props.

751
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: I thought I thought this one was interesting. The total

752
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: missed field goals and extra points over under is one

753
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: and a half. Go to under on that. These dudes

754
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: in there a reason you don't get agreed. I like

755
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: this though, where you can go to field goals made

756
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: exact zero plus two thousand one plus six fifty two

757
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: plus three sixty three plus two fifty four plus three hundred.

758
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: So they think three and four are the most likely

759
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: outcomes in terms of field goals made in this game.

760
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: If you get the five plus four seventy five, six

761
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: plus twelve, that's a that's a fun one. These are crazy, like,

762
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 1: it's amazing that they're I don't even know they keep

763
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: track of all stuff. The way that they limit their

764
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: exposure is that they put caps on what typically can

765
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: be wagered on these things, so that you couldn't find something,

766
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: you know, and and go nuts on it. All right,

767
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: I'm fast forwarding ahead here. This is great. This is

768
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: Connor shout out to you, buddy. I mean, this is

769
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,959
Speaker 1: the most complete one of these. I think we've ever had.

770
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: Halftime prob Yeah, total over under twenty four and a

771
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: half combined for the two teams at half h m M.

772
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: Contain your excitements, ago, that's a that's a what I think.

773
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Look at the halftime line. They think that obviously,

774
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: they think the Chiefs are going to be ahead and

775
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,959
Speaker 1: then lose the game. Four tin type of hit. Yeah,

776
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are. It says plus a half is minus

777
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: Eagles minus have his plus one oh five. So they

778
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: think the Chiefs are they're gonna be tied or ahead

779
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: at the half, which is wild, even though the money

780
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: line is opposite. There's a little value in there on

781
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: the Eagles being up one, because why would you This

782
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: makes no sense to me. You could have the Eagles

783
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: minus a half at plus one oh five, or you

784
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: have the Eagles minus to be winning, which is by

785
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: one at minus one, So why wouldn't you use the

786
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: halftime spread and you get better value on the Eagles?

787
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense. Final score those are fun

788
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: ones and you can do things like that. You can

789
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: go exact score. You played in Philly, didn't you? Yeah?

790
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: I did. Were you with Joe Banner? Yep? He was there? Entertainments?

791
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: National Anthem? And I'm jumping ahead because I do have

792
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: a question. I want to ask both of you. Go

793
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: National Anthem length over a hundred twenty five seconds? Under

794
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: a hundred twenty five seconds? Who's singing? So that is

795
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: two oh five? I think? Is it? Chris Stapleton'll go

796
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: with the over because that dude can sing, So he's

797
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: gonna ask some riffs to it. Maybe at the end

798
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: he'll do the Whitney Houston Braave line, all that type

799
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: of stuff. I think. I think we're going I would

800
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: take the under here. I think he's going to be efficient.

801
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: I think so to efficient. I think he's gonna sing.

802
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: He can. It's going to be an older guy. He is.

803
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: He's long winded over all day long telling you this

804
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: dude can sing sing. I mean, granted, he strikes me

805
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: as a guy who has respect for the flag, and

806
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: I saying if you ambellish the anthem that you don't.

807
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: But I think he's gonna do it. I think slick

808
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: is right. I think he's gonna do it. All right.

809
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: I want to get I want to have a little

810
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: bit of a discussion here real quick before we say

811
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: goodbye to Gerarde on Roger Goodell yesterday on the state

812
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: of today's officiating. I don't think it's ever been better, Gerade,

813
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: What say you to that? What do I say to

814
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: this idea? I don't think it's been better. Well, having

815
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: the perspective on the sideline and seeing some things that

816
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: I saw that were just egregious bad calls, I can't

817
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: agree with that because I saw some stuff. I'm like,

818
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: how are you calling that? As a matter of fact,

819
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: why are you calling that? You're literally on the other

820
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: side of the football field making a thrown the flag

821
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: that sometimes you should even be involved in. So I

822
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: can't agree with that. Sorry, I don't agree with it either.

823
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: I don't think it's even remotely in the possibility that

824
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: it is. Why can't they just put the eye in

825
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: the sky in what is the What is the issue

826
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: with this? Why can't they just have the camera above?

827
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: Like it's that simple to fix this. It's crazy. The

828
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: other thing I wanted to bring up, and I know

829
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: it's in around the League of two fifteen, but Gerald

830
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: won't be here, is what is the NFL p A

831
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: doing trying to get rid of the NFL combine? How

832
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: dare you get rid of the NFL? What are they trying? Dollars?

833
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: What are they trying to do? Hand me the paperwork there. Well,

834
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: what they're trying to do is say that it degrades

835
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 1: and dehumanizes you, and it's too without saying it too

836
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: close to an auction, if you will, far as what

837
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: it represents. That's what they're trying to say. So what

838
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: is their proposed all they well know they want to

839
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: do like NFL p A regional combines. They think it's

840
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: ridiculous to not everybody you can get into the combine um.

841
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: The one quote from Demore Demorris Smith, would you want

842
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: your son to spend hours inside of an m r

843
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: I machine and then be evaluated by thirty two separate

844
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: team doctors who are, by the way, only doing it

845
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 1: for one reason. The reason to decrease your draft value

846
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: like this was a This was a big thing at

847
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: the NFL p A meeting. Last reason is not to

848
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: decrease their draft value. The reason is to protect their

849
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: organization from acquiring a damaged asset. Right, but it's a player.

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00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: You won't see it in that light, of course. That

851
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: but I mean that's look, I get it's the underwear Olympics,

852
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: but it and there are some I feel like the

853
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: NFL has gotten better and getting rid of the some

854
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: of the stupid questions and the schedule questions that are

855
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: not right. They get asked to prospects. But I still

856
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: think there's a value to having the NFL combine. And

857
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: how dare you try to take away my experience in

858
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: Indie one week out of the year trying to go

859
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:21,959
Speaker 1: to Saint Almosa. Agreed, so many more options almost as great.

860
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: Though it is great, I'm not saying it's not but

861
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's plenty of options, tons of good

862
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: food there. Yeah, agreed, a great All right to Rod,

863
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 1: We'll have fun in Arizona. Man. So your final is

864
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: you got the Eagles. That's right. I'm sticking a what's

865
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 1: coming up on the next level today at three o'clock

866
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: after we get done. What's coming up on the next

867
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: level is that we will talk some basketball with what's

868
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: going on with the trade deadline and see what the

869
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: Calves are going to do. And then from there we'll

870
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: talk some more football like you guys have done just

871
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: with me, regards to prop bets, parlays and all the

872
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: things of that nature and just generally what's going on

873
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: out here. Man. So it's gonna be exciting, fun show.

874
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: Looking for it to it, dude, go lay in the

875
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: pool for an hour. No, I saw your house. I

876
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: know what's going on there. It's a nice place, man.

877
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 1: It's Paradise Valley for a reason, my friends. All right, Gerard,

878
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: be well, thanks for joining us today. All right, take care, guys.

879
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: All right, when we come back, Brown's defensive coordinator Jim

880
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: Schwartz joins the show live in studio Cleveland. Brown's Daily

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Speaker 1: ESPN Cleveland. All right, welcome back to cleon Brown's Daily,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Bally Bet, Coming soon to Ohio.

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Speaker 1: You were listening to w K and R Cleveland, ESPN

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Speaker 1: Cleveland A fifty here and we are joined in studio

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Speaker 1: live by the new defensive coordinator of the Cleveland Browns,

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00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz, coach. Welcome to the the studio. Welcome back to Cleveland.

889
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: Great to talk with you today. Yeah, thanks for having me,

890
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: and it's great to be back in northeast Ohio. UM.

891
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: I've sort of taking a little um trip around the

892
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: Great Lakes, you know, Cleveland to Detroit to Buffalo. Um.

893
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: So we're gone full circle. You have and and you

894
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 1: you know, crushed your opening press conference was that people

895
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: talk about winning the press conference. Fans are always very

896
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: pleased and one of the reasons is that connection you

897
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 1: have to this city and what you had said about it.

898
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: Now that you've been a little bit, let's try not

899
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: to let that be my legacy, not going to be

900
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 1: your legacy. Let's try it. Let's try to win some games.

901
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: Let's play some good defense and not worry about press

902
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: conferences as much. I like that. How have How is

903
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: it like? Is it surreal for you now to be

904
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: that you've had a few weeks back to be back

905
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: in Cleveland where it all started for you? You You know,

906
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: in the press conference, you're probably going through everything. But

907
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: now that you've actually been here and you're working back

908
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, is it is it kind of surreal? Yeah?

909
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 1: A little bit. You know, you you fall back into

910
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: the same, um, the same routines. Um, the building has

911
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: changed a lot, but then there's still a lot of

912
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 1: ghosts here that Um, you know that I've been walking

913
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: here for the last you know, thirty years, and um,

914
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: you know, just getting used to the trains again, getting

915
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 1: used to the you know, to the cloudy in rain.

916
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: And and I tell you one thing it does, it

917
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: may it makes you appreciate the sun when it does

918
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: come out, you know. And UM, so yeah, falling back

919
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: in I mean I haven't really gone past the airport

920
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 1: and the office. Um, you know, been trying to catch

921
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: up on a lot of things. And um, you don't

922
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: get ourselves get ourselves in position, not just captchinop on

923
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: you know, watching last year and you know what was

924
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: asking the players and how they did it and try

925
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: to incorporate new things and you know, incorporating a staff,

926
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: but also trying to get ready for free agency in

927
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: the draft. I mean, there's a lot of hats to

928
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: wear this time of year, and um, you know that

929
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: clock's ticking. So um, you know, my my scope has

930
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: been limited to, like I said, facility in the airport

931
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: and that's about it. So walk us through a day

932
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: in the life of Jim Schwartz. As you mentioned, imagine

933
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: there's some evaluating the current roster, evaluating people that you

934
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Speaker 1: like to bring in, whether it be free agents or

935
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: in the draft. What's what's kind of the date like

936
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: for you right now? Well, I mean it's really not

937
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: people that I would like to bring in. It's players

938
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Speaker 1: that Andrew and Kevin would like to bring in. And

939
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: my perspective is how they would fit in, what they're

940
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,439
Speaker 1: going to be asked to do. Um, you know, it's

941
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Speaker 1: it's not it's not my job to, you know, to

942
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: to decide who's coming. It's more job to give them

943
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: perspective on how they're going to be used and what

944
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: would be asked of them and and how valuable they

945
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: would be in the defense. So you know, yeah, we

946
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 1: we sort of split our day. You know, we spend

947
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: about half the day working on schemes and and really

948
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: at this point in the process, it's more you know,

949
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: watching um, you know, watching last year's games and letting

950
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: the current coaches talk and so I can I can

951
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: get a feel for them as coaches, but also I

952
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 1: can get a feel for what was acid of players

953
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: and you know, how they how they did it, and

954
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,720
Speaker 1: terminology that was used. And you know, some things pique

955
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: your interests and it's like, hey, that's an interesting way

956
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: to do something. Man, I want to hold onto that.

957
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: And there's other things like, man, I think there's a

958
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: better way to do this, UM, you know, and then

959
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: we spend sometimes looking at UM, you know, Philadelphia or

960
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: Buffalo or Detroit. I mean we've gone Tennessee, We've gone

961
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: you know a lot of different places with saying, hey,

962
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 1: look we we ran this this way. Here's an example

963
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: of it. I think this can be helpful for us,

964
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,439
Speaker 1: and this can help this certain fire. And then we've

965
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: even started looking at UM other teams around the league

966
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: and things that they do well, and everybody does the

967
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: same thing this time of year. It's you know, hey,

968
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: let's see what makes this team tick and you know,

969
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: let's see how they how they handled this situation or

970
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: they used to employeed this personnel group at this scheme,

971
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: and how we can make that our own. So that's

972
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: pretty much half today. And then the other half is,

973
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: you know, is built into trying to, um, you know,

974
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: provide some perspective and some evaluation on free agents and

975
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: you know the combines coming up soon, trying to get um,

976
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: you know, trying to get our feet under us there

977
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 1: and UM, you know, all along with um, you know,

978
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: house hunting and um you know, um trying to trying

979
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 1: to get a little exercise and trying to find something

980
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: to eat every once in a while. So that's that's

981
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: pretty much a day for me. It sounds like a

982
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: very full day. And you mentioned, you know, the other

983
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: stops you've been in Tennessee. You've been with the Detroit

984
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: lines of Buffalo Bills, the Eagles head coach obviously in Detroit.

985
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: But one thing I noticed everywhere you've been, you've sent

986
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: defensive tackles to the Pro Bowl with haynes Worth with Tennessee,

987
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: a first round pick fift overall and domini ensou you

988
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: drafted uh in Detroit with your team their first round pick,

989
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: second overall. He's still playing, by the way, with Philadelphia

990
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: Marcel Darius who was the third overall pick in Buffalo,

991
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: and then Fletcher Cox, who was still playing in the

992
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: Super Bowl Philly, also a first round pick. Well, you

993
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 1: better mention Kyle Williams and the Buffalo as well. One

994
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 1: of the best players I've been around. You know, our

995
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: our scheme is very friendly for defensive lineman. Um. And

996
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: why is that. Well, we're not gonna we're not gonna

997
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: slow him down with a bunch of um with a

998
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff. We're gonna ask him to go create

999
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: some havoc and to go. Um. You know, I'll watch

1000
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: my language here. We're gonna ask them to go mess

1001
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: some stuff up. And that's their job. Their jobs to

1002
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: mess some stuff up. It's the linebacker's job to go

1003
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: clean that mess up. And um, you know, we're we're

1004
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: we're sort of attack on waves. You know, those guys

1005
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: as long as they're getting penetration and aiding disruption, the

1006
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: guys off behind them can play. And there's a lot

1007
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: like covering kickoffs where you have your disruptors and your

1008
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: penetrators and then your second level guys that fall in behind.

1009
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: But we put a lot of emphasis on allowing those

1010
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: guys UM freedom to to um to win on their

1011
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: side of the block. We allow them a lot of

1012
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: freedom to rush the pass are particularly on early downs. UM.

1013
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 1: There's different ways that we have to cover that behind.

1014
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: But you know, this league is about putting pressure on

1015
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: the passer. It's about creating lost yardage plays and um,

1016
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: you know, and winning on third down. And if you

1017
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: want to win on third down, create some lost yardage

1018
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: plays on first and second down. UM. I don't know

1019
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: if it was my last year in Philly, one of

1020
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: those years we led the NFL and in tackles for

1021
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: losses and first and second down sacks and UM, you

1022
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: know that that'll set you up for third down. Plus

1023
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,439
Speaker 1: there's there's a high incident of turnover when you're hitting

1024
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: the quarterback and things like that. We've got some good

1025
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: guys that do it here, and UM, I think we

1026
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: can help them out by UM by lessening their load, UM,

1027
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: limiting their scope a little bit more, let them be disruptive,

1028
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: and UM, I think we'll see the results we we have,

1029
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: there's there's probably gonna be a line of defensive tackles

1030
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: with the resumes in hand, um, hanging out here, um

1031
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: in Barria, trying to pay you. Yeah, I mean and again,

1032
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it hasn't been. It hasn't just

1033
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: been good fortune that we've had those kind of players,

1034
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: you know, We've we've run a scheme that's friendly to

1035
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: those guys, allows them to make plays. Some people have

1036
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: schemes where it's the defensive lines job to um, you know,

1037
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: play at the line of scrimmage and to keep the

1038
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: linebackers free so that they can make plays. We sort

1039
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: of take the opposite approach and and take the handcuffs

1040
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: off those guys. We'll get those guys playing without a

1041
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: seatbelt and um, you know, and and and um you know,

1042
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: sort of sort of playing on the edge, and that's

1043
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: where we want them. How important is it to what

1044
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: you to do to have somebody we talked about those

1045
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: guys all picked on the top half of the first round.

1046
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: You also mentioned Kyle Williams, who was phenomen in two

1047
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: thousand fourteen. I remember when we went into Buffalo and

1048
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes had to think a fumble recovery for a touchdown.

1049
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: You guys knocked John Football on his Yeah, he was

1050
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 1: playing dead. He was playing dead on the Yeah. He

1051
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: came in. I drove down the field and I was like,

1052
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: you know, the game was sort of had a hand

1053
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: at that point. I was like, okay, I'm no more

1054
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: of this yet. And it certainly did put him on

1055
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: his back. But how important is it. You know, we

1056
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: don't have a first round defensive tackle in terms of

1057
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: pure talent on this roster right now. How important to

1058
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: what you want to do is it to you know,

1059
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: get with Andrew Barry and you guys work together in

1060
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: Philly and say, no, this is something that's critical to

1061
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: what I do because it allows me to free up

1062
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: Miles and the guys on the outside. And I mean,

1063
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, obviously you have a player like Miles,

1064
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: but some of the best players that have played for

1065
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: us in the past haven't been first round draft picks. Um,

1066
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 1: you know, and and you know, so I don't think

1067
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: it has to be it has to be you know that, Um,

1068
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: you know, I've had guys that have been and seconds

1069
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,959
Speaker 1: and thirds and force and you know, even undrafted free

1070
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: agents that have been very productive, um, you know in

1071
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,439
Speaker 1: this and there's there's certain skill sets that we look

1072
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: for and um, you know, different a little bit of

1073
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: play style that maybe other people might not appreciate as much.

1074
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: They might use the person a little bit different, and um,

1075
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, I think that you know, sort of involved

1076
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: in that scheme as we can get guys, we can

1077
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 1: get guys going pretty quickly and um, you know, and

1078
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: get them successful on the field. So players come from

1079
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: a lot of different areas. And first round draft picks

1080
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: get a lot of attention obviously because you know, they're

1081
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: the they're the attention grabbers. But you know, the meat

1082
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: and potatoes at this league are not first rounders. And

1083
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: uh and our ability as coaches is um is or

1084
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: our hallmark is coaches is not going to be coaching

1085
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: the first rounders. I mean, you want to do that,

1086
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: you want those guys to do well, But our hallmark

1087
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: as coaches is going to be finding productive players later

1088
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,720
Speaker 1: on down the line. So I look forward to working

1089
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: with those guys and you know, sort of talking with

1090
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: our scouts and explaining how we're going to use guys

1091
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: and maybe guys that in the past might have been

1092
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: overlooked because they couldn't do a certain thing, but you know,

1093
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: they might fit our play style, and um, you know,

1094
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: I think that we all work together, we can find

1095
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,959
Speaker 1: some productive players, regardless of first round or high price,

1096
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: free agent or anything else. So when people talk about,

1097
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: you know, Jim Schwartz defensive, here a lot of wide

1098
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: nine for our listeners, what does that mean? Yeah, I

1099
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: haven't called it the wide nine for years. Um, you

1100
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: know we were. We were when I was in Tennessee

1101
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: with Jim Washburn, who I think is one of the

1102
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: best delone coaches in the history of the National Football League.

1103
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: We sort of we we we came into the playing

1104
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: the nine technique more as an adjustment based on who

1105
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: we were playing. We're playing the Colts every year and

1106
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: playing Houston, and they were running wide zone and Peyton

1107
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: was running all those play actions and and um, you know,

1108
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: we it's sort of fit for us. We had Haynesworth

1109
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: inside and we wanted to funnel the ball back to him. Um.

1110
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: You know, our names have changed over the years. I

1111
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: like to call it an attack defense. We're not a

1112
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: read team up front. We're an attack team. Um, We're

1113
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: going to be disruptive we're hitting spots. It's probably not

1114
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:18,439
Speaker 1: as wide as it used to be. UM, but it's UM.

1115
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: It's pretty pretty simple in theory UM, and it allows

1116
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: the players to you know, play fast and puts them

1117
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: in the best position to rush the quarterback and sort

1118
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: of play the run in between. We've also been very

1119
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: good run teams over the years. Great, you know from

1120
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: from a from a front that I think if UM,

1121
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: you know, casual observer would look. They're saying, you know,

1122
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: this front is built a brush the passer and check,

1123
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: Yes it is. But UM. Also the disruption that creates

1124
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: in the way we play the linebackers in the second

1125
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: level players UM can make it very disruptive for the

1126
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: run game, and it takes certain run games away. We're

1127
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: generally pretty good at at matching up against some run schemes.

1128
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 1: So you went to Philly, you turn it around quickly

1129
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: there the defense he went a Super Bowl in your

1130
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: second year there. What's kind of the key to coming

1131
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: into a place and getting it turned around like that?

1132
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: Is it a collaboration with the general managers he talked

1133
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: about in that case would have been how he roseman

1134
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: trying to figure out this is you know, these are

1135
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: the traits I'm looking for, This is the style I

1136
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: want to play, getting that together and then coaching those

1137
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: guys up and letting them, as you said, be disruptive. Yeah,

1138
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: I mean communication is the key, you know. And um,

1139
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: I had really good relationship with how he and he's

1140
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: an outstanding GM and he valued defensive lineman the same

1141
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: way that I did, not just when I was there,

1142
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: but even before. You know, he he he always he

1143
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: had his envision. I probably one of the reasons I

1144
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: got hired there was the way he was building the

1145
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: defense really fit into sort of my style and how

1146
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,439
Speaker 1: the players were going to be used. And he knew

1147
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: if he spent money slash drafted players that it wouldn't

1148
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 1: be wouldn't be waste of money. Um. You know, I

1149
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: think probably the biggest thing that you know, we're just

1150
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: going to find ways to streamline communication and we're going

1151
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,439
Speaker 1: to find things that fit our personnel the best, and

1152
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: what we might try to get too long term might

1153
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: not be exactly what we do short term. You know,

1154
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: we have players that we have and you can't change

1155
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: everybody in a year, So you've got to find a

1156
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 1: way for those guys to be successful and do what

1157
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: they do well. And you know, I've I've had plenty

1158
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: of seasons that you know, we started off one way

1159
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: and then we get loaded with injuries, and then you

1160
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: finish another way and the way you played at the

1161
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: end of the season might not even resemble some of

1162
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 1: the schemes you were using early in the year. But

1163
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: you had to match it to your personnel, You had

1164
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: to plug up holes, you had to handle injuries. UM,

1165
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: that's one of the things that experiences really help. I

1166
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: had some failures early in my career doing that. You know,

1167
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: I forgot about the strengths of the team. I spent

1168
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: too many, too much of my time worrying about the weakness.

1169
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: And um, you know, later in my career I benefited

1170
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: from that. You know, we all benefitt from making mistakes

1171
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 1: early our careers. And you know, I look at it,

1172
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, some of the successes we've had later with

1173
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: understanding you know, yeah, we have weaknesses, but yeah, let's

1174
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: accentuate our positives. Um, you know, let's let's let's make

1175
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: opponents worry about those things as opposed to spending all

1176
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 1: our times trying to you know, trying to, um, you know,

1177
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: cover things up. Um, you know, but you know, I mean,

1178
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of different people say that, um,

1179
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: that good teams get better over the course of the season.

1180
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 1: You know, You've heard some of the greatest coaches in

1181
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: the NFL say that, And I get what they're saying.

1182
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily agree. I would say, the good teams

1183
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: find out who they are and and and they build

1184
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: towards that. You know, and it's a little bit of

1185
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: a funnel early and here you really don't know your

1186
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: cast of cars. Even if you have the exact same

1187
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: guys back, it's probably gonna be a little bit different

1188
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 1: than you before. Your dynamics a little bit different, your

1189
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: leadership is a little bit different. One. Some guys are

1190
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 1: one year more mature and better. Some guys are one

1191
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: year old or and maybe less effective. So, you know,

1192
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: the whole thing is figuring out who you are, what

1193
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 1: your personality is going to be, what's gonna fit um,

1194
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 1: what's gonna fit you the best? And then you get

1195
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: good at those things. And sometimes the best coaching you

1196
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: can do is just get out of the way, you know,

1197
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: give them a good framework, something that fits them. Um,

1198
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: you know, make make sure your communication is good, make

1199
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 1: sure your rules are good, streamline your communications, simplify things

1200
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: as much as you can. And then and then you know,

1201
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: you know, let let the dogs eat and um you know,

1202
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: I think that that's that's another part of maturing as

1203
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: a coach is is you can sort of you don't

1204
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: feel like you need to inject yourself into it. You know,

1205
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: let your players shine, let your do what your players

1206
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 1: do the best. And um, like I said, sometimes the

1207
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: best coaching is just um, you know, getting out away,

1208
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: give them a good framework and and and let those

1209
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 1: guys on. There's other times where you have to you

1210
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: have to create some some stuff. Maybe your challenge because

1211
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: of injuries, maybe your challenge talent wise, and um you know,

1212
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: maybe maybe you need to do a little bit more.

1213
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: Um you know. I I'll quote Bill Parcels. Bill Parcels

1214
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: famously said, if you don't have any tendencies, you're probably

1215
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 1: not very good. And some of the best defenses I've had,

1216
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: some of the best defenses in the National Football League,

1217
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 1: some of the best um offenses in the history of

1218
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: National Football League did what they did and did it well,

1219
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: and it fit their guys and they had good players

1220
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: in position, and um, you know, and they and they

1221
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: were successful as a result. This is what we're gonna do.

1222
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 1: Try to stop it, right. Yeah, that's a little has

1223
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 1: a little bit of that. And when you and when

1224
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: you when you have when you have players like you mentioned,

1225
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: you know, um, you know, when you have um, you know,

1226
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 1: good guys up front or guys that can cover. I'm

1227
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: really excited about our corners. Yeah, you know, and I've

1228
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: had probably, um, you know, I've I've had very in

1229
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: degrees of corners. When I was in Buffalo for a year,

1230
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: we had we had we were strong up front, Jerry Hughes,

1231
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,919
Speaker 1: Marcel Darius, Kyle Williams, Mario Williams. We had a lot

1232
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 1: of statics and yeah we were, we were good and

1233
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: just about every area, um, you know, we were. We

1234
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: were really good defense, maybe one of the best I've had.

1235
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: But um, a little bit under under recognized was how

1236
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: strong our corners were with Steph Gilmour and Jodis McKelvin

1237
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 1: and Corey Graham and to Kell Roby, Um, Aaron Williams

1238
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,479
Speaker 1: at the safety. I mean, you know, those guys could

1239
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: cover and you didn't need to protect him very much.

1240
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: And he also had a great attitude of um like

1241
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 1: I got that guy and um, you know, get out

1242
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 1: of my way clear to dance for for me, I'll

1243
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: get that guy covered. Um you know, cover is is

1244
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: a lot of swag and a lot of um confidence

1245
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: and you got to back that up. But those guys did,

1246
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 1: and that freed us up to do so much more

1247
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 1: stuff up front. And like I said, I'm really excited

1248
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 1: to work with the young corners they have here. Um,

1249
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 1: you know, I think I think that can put us

1250
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: in a good position, and that can you know, that

1251
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 1: can sort of synergize with what we do up front.

1252
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: You know, maybe there's times we can bring more guys

1253
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: in protection because we can single guys up in the

1254
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: back end. Um, you know, there's there's times we can

1255
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: be aggressive and you know that will help guys like

1256
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 1: Miles out. They'll take chips off of them, that'll take

1257
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 1: center slides away from him and give him some more

1258
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: one on one opportunities. And you know, when it's all

1259
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 1: said and done, I've I've said this with a lot

1260
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 1: of you know, great players in the past, but I'll

1261
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 1: have a I have a little spot on my wall

1262
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: in my office that says, you know, anything that gets

1263
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 1: myles Garrett one on one is a good UM is

1264
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: a good scheme and um, you know, and then and

1265
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 1: then you then you just let him let him play,

1266
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: you know. But we don't need to try to necessarily

1267
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: scheme guys to get open. I mean, if you do,

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01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: maybe they do, maybe they don't. You're sort of counting

1269
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: on the offensive screw up or you're bringing more than

1270
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: they can possibly go, which has its own pitfalls. But

1271
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: you know, we can get our best players one on

1272
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 1: one and create matchups for those guys, we'll be in

1273
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 1: a pretty good place. Particularly with guys like Miles. What

1274
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: makes Myles so special and White so excited coaching, He's

1275
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: a freak show. Um. You know, there's not many guys

1276
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 1: that have walked this planet that have his size and

1277
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 1: his athletic ability. I mean, you know just when you

1278
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: watch him, Um, you know, I know he suffered with

1279
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 1: some injury in the middle of the year last year

1280
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: and some of those games you know, didn't look like

1281
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 1: the nine that you see early or late or you're

1282
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: used to seeing. But he got it back at the

1283
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: end of the year and um, you know, just incredible balance,

1284
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 1: incredible bend explosiveness, UM plays hard, UM productive, great eyes

1285
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 1: for the quarterback. Um, you know, it's it's it's really exciting.

1286
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 1: And I've had I've had some good ones, and you know,

1287
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 1: I think he's got a chance to be, you know,

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01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: at the top of that list, and um, maybe at

1289
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: the top of the list, um, you know, in this

1290
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: league and then maybe even in the history of this league.

1291
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: He's got that kind of talent, he's got that kind

1292
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: of personality and um, you know, so our job is

1293
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 1: coaches to find ways to to free him up one

1294
01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 1: on one, um, you know, and and build around that

1295
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 1: kind of player. Well, one of the edges that you coached,

1296
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 1: the prominence Brandon Graham, called you a wizard at the

1297
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 1: Super Bowl when he was asked about the Browns getting

1298
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 1: he was the defensive coordinator, and I'd be remiss if

1299
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 1: I didn't note that you lined him up over a

1300
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 1: guard on the play the lead to the Strip sac

1301
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 1: that led to the Super Bowl victory for your Eagles.

1302
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 1: So obviously something they're moving and we moved. B g

1303
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: was tough because he's he's sort of short and squatty

1304
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 1: and really powerful, and sometimes he was a hard handle for,

1305
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 1: you know, some of the offensive tackles just because of

1306
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,959
Speaker 1: his natural leverage. And I go back with Brandon along

1307
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 1: Way coachman his senior Bowl and saw firsthand. And then

1308
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 1: obviously it got to Philly after he had been in

1309
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: the league, but you know, he had never really hit

1310
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 1: his stride yet and um, you know, just it's a

1311
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 1: it's a pleasure to coach guys like Brandon and made

1312
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 1: a lot of big plays for us UM, you know,

1313
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 1: over over our time there. And I'm excited for him

1314
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. You know when you talk about

1315
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 1: team you can rush with the quarterback man, Yeah, I mean,

1316
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: holy mackerel um. You know they're they're they're still getting

1317
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 1: it done. And you know, guys like Fletch are still

1318
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 1: getting done. Grave Digger hardgrave is Um had an outstanding year.

1319
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 1: Reddick was holy mackerel Um. And it's really it's really

1320
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: impressive to watch. And that really sets a tone. I said,

1321
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 1: say that all the great teams that I've been around,

1322
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 1: and a lot of the great teams I've observed in history.

1323
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 1: The engine that drives there, I don't know what to

1324
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 1: call it. They're they're there. The tempo is created by

1325
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 1: the defensive line, and when you can have three d

1326
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,719
Speaker 1: pound guys running wide open, like I said, playing without

1327
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: a seat belt and hustling to the ball. It just

1328
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 1: such such a great tempo for the rest of your um,

1329
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 1: for the rest of your guys and for your team, um,

1330
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, and that's what will aspire to here. And

1331
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 1: um you know b g had a lot of a

1332
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 1: lot to do with that, But he called me it

1333
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 1: wasn't probably because I just get out of his way

1334
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: and let him go and give him a good framework

1335
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: and go. You know, wasn't you know, I mean that

1336
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 1: that play that wasn't anything other than getting the matchup

1337
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 1: And you know, Brandon Graham one on one against that

1338
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 1: guard was a good matchup force. And you know, we

1339
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,600
Speaker 1: we didn't we didn't play great that game, but we

1340
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 1: made the play that we had to and and and

1341
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 1: Brandon helped do that. I would be remiss if I

1342
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 1: didn't say Malcolm Jenkins on that play took Brady's first

1343
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,759
Speaker 1: look away Brady, Brady was trying to hit Gronk. Jenks

1344
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 1: saw it sunk into it and then Brady had had

1345
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 1: the reload that thing to go to the flat and

1346
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 1: that gave Brandon the time. So, you know, not every

1347
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 1: player we talked about Miles, you know, talk about any

1348
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 1: of these guys talk about our corners. But um, when

1349
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 1: you're truly operating efficiently on defense, and you're and your

1350
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 1: guys complement each other, you know, and and your corners

1351
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 1: are able to cover better because the pass rush's clock

1352
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 1: in the quarterback um or your your corners are covering

1353
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 1: long enough, which is buying time for those guys to

1354
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 1: go in and make those plays. But there's unsung heroes

1355
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,679
Speaker 1: on every play. There's no player that stands alone. Ultimate

1356
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 1: team game. We'll get you out of here real quick

1357
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 1: on this. Two quick ones. Joe Thomas, first ballot, Hall

1358
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: of Fame. When you're a defensive coordinator and you went

1359
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 1: against the Browns many times, when you've got a tackle

1360
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 1: like that, does that actually affect a defensive coordinator? It

1361
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: made him so good in your mind? Yeah, you know.

1362
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 1: I mean he was one of those guys I just

1363
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 1: thought had like like such low blood pressure. And I

1364
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 1: mean that in a in a in a really complimentary way.

1365
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 1: Um it was John Wooden had a quote like like

1366
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 1: be quick, but don't be in a hurry or fast.

1367
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: He says that all times. I'm okay, yeah, but and

1368
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 1: and you could see that in his play he was

1369
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: never frazzled. He had outstanding technique. I mean, he's a

1370
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: talented guy, but he had outstanding technique. You could never

1371
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 1: you could never seem to rattle him over the course

1372
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 1: of the game and um or over the course of

1373
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 1: the season. And um, wow, you know that's I think

1374
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: in a nutshell that that was his He never he

1375
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: never got outside his technique. He was patient, had a

1376
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 1: lot of calm, finance, and um you know, you know

1377
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 1: he's going he's going to have a he's gonna have

1378
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 1: a gold jacket, no doubt. I want to leave you

1379
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 1: with this. I always like to ask, you know something,

1380
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 1: give the fans a way to understand you the human

1381
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 1: a little bit. And so I'm gonna go back at

1382
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:17,719
Speaker 1: a little research here in your high school year. But quote,

1383
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 1: this is what you said you like to do in

1384
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 1: your free time, playing sports, weightlifting, partying, Oh yeah, well

1385
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 1: and listening to Judas Priests. Yeah a lot of the

1386
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 1: eighties have you metal in my background? Okay, So what

1387
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 1: is Jim Schwartz, the gym Swartz that sits before me

1388
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 1: right now? If you're right now in my free time

1389
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 1: whatever you may have, Yeah, very much free time too.

1390
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: When you have kids, you don't you don't get to

1391
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,679
Speaker 1: play sports very much. My golf game went way down

1392
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 1: hill when the kids, because you know, it's hard to

1393
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 1: go spend six hours playing golf. Of course, you need

1394
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 1: to spend time with kids, with your family, particularly in

1395
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 1: this business where we spend so much time in the office.

1396
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 1: But now my kids are in college now, so maybe

1397
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 1: I'll restart that and uh can become a bogey golfer again.

1398
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 1: I've got some great courses here then, um, you know

1399
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 1: that that I could that I could work with um

1400
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 1: like too much. Yeah, you know, I got some country

1401
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 1: music and me, I mean it lives in Nashville way

1402
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 1: too long. They're not into the country. I love the

1403
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 1: stories with country. But yeah, it's hard if I'm gonna

1404
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna work out, um and and all my

1405
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:21,600
Speaker 1: time working out now is trying to get small, not

1406
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 1: trying to get bit, you know. I mean, I change,

1407
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 1: you know, I used to used to try to be

1408
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 1: a meat head and and and now it's it's all

1409
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 1: just peloton and row in and you know, and and

1410
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:36,679
Speaker 1: and high reps. I'm I'm trying to get small, not big.

1411
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: But you still it's it's it's it's it's not just

1412
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 1: sort of fun, it just, um, it helps you concentrate

1413
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 1: in the day. If you can keep yourself fit. Um,

1414
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 1: you know, it helps you in a lot of ways.

1415
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 1: But if I'm if if I get especially hard work out,

1416
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: I'm still rolling back to Metallica and and and Priest

1417
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 1: and you know, Scorpions and Tesla and guns and Roses

1418
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 1: and you know that's my um, that's my thing. But

1419
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 1: if I'm in the car on a long trip, you know,

1420
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 1: maybe maybe it's more Kenny Chesney and Eric Church and

1421
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 1: you know those kind of guys. Coach. This has been

1422
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 1: pure joy. I could sit here and talk to you

1423
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 1: for hours, love listen anyway you kind of break down

1424
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 1: ball and everything. And certainly very happy to have you here.

1425
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 1: And yes, the focus is not on press conference, it's

1426
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 1: not on easy views. It's ongoing out there and winning games.

1427
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 1: And unfortunately have to wait a while to do that.

1428
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: This fall said, we have miles to go credit to

1429
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: give you for that one. But I'm certainly happy to

1430
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 1: have you here. And thanks so much for the time today. Yeah,

1431
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. All Right, that was Jim Schwartz.

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Speaker 1: go to. The hotline is ESPN NFL Nation Chiefs Reporter

1444
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,919
Speaker 1: Adam Tysher joins the program via the Twisted Tea Hotline,

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01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 1: brought to you by Twisted Tea Hard Iced Tea, an

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Speaker 1: official sponsor the Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twisted. Adam, How

1447
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 1: are you doing? Man? What's going on down there in

1448
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 1: the Valley of the Sun. Hey, how are you guys doing?

1449
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 1: We're great, We're great, Adam, Am I crazy. I was

1450
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 1: last week on our show. We had a lot of

1451
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 1: people come on or two weeks ago leading up to

1452
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: the a f C Championship game. I was the only

1453
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 1: one that picked the Chiefs. I was like, everybody's just

1454
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 1: acting like the Chiefs are gonna loose get rolled. There

1455
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:56,719
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. You've got the homes Kelsey, Andy Reid, Chris Jones,

1456
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 1: and now we're going to the Super Bowl. And I'll

1457
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 1: tell you, I've had a bunch of people on the

1458
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 1: show this week and they're all on the Eagles. Am

1459
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 1: I going nuts? This seem has been the a f

1460
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 1: C Championship five straight years, the Super Bowl three times

1461
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,759
Speaker 1: out of the last five, they've won it once maybe

1462
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 1: twice now, and it feels like they're Rodney Dangerfield getting

1463
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:17,600
Speaker 1: no respect. I'm dumbfounded. Yeah, we all the you know,

1464
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:19,599
Speaker 1: Chiefs have a lot going for him, There's no doubt

1465
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 1: about it. And anybody was looking at this the right

1466
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 1: way probably realizes that. But the Eagles do too, you know.

1467
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 1: So I'm expecting a competitive game and uh, I could

1468
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:30,600
Speaker 1: see it going either way. There are some things I

1469
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 1: think the Chiefs definitely need to do that they got

1470
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 1: done against the Bengals. They're also going to have to

1471
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 1: do against the Eagles to win this game. But hey,

1472
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 1: certainly stranger things have happened in football than the Chiefs

1473
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 1: beating the Eagles, no doubt. Yeah, this is kind of

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Speaker 1: the matchup. I think that it felt like we were

1475
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 1: on a collision course. For it could have been the

1476
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 1: Niners and the same would have been true of them.

1477
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 1: That you know, the Niners hadn't lost since October. The

1478
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 1: Eagles haven't lost with Jalen Hurt since October. I think

1479
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 1: the Chiefs haven't lost since then. Last time they lost,

1480
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 1: I think was to the Bengals or maybe early November.

1481
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 1: These are the hottest teams in the league. They're the

1482
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 1: two number one seeds in their respective conferences, and now

1483
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 1: they meet for a Super Bowl. Does this feel like

1484
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,680
Speaker 1: and they played the Niners, they played obviously Brady and

1485
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. Does this feel just from a football standpoint,

1486
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 1: like the biggest of the three trips to the Super Bowl? Well? Yeah,

1487
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the Eagles are the best of

1488
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 1: the three opponents that the Chiefs have played. Um, I

1489
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 1: don't think there's any doubt about that. I mean, the

1490
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 1: forty Niners were a great defensive team and did some

1491
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 1: good things offensively, but had Jimmy Garoppolo at quarterback. Um,

1492
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: you know the Bucks, uh, certainly were formidable team. They

1493
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 1: were probably a step up from forty niners. But I

1494
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 1: think this Eagles team, the way they can get after

1495
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 1: the quarterback and and what they have going for him

1496
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 1: on offense, I think this is a more complete team

1497
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 1: than anything the Chiefs has seen in the Super Bowl

1498
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 1: in recent year. So we'll see how well they handle it.

1499
01:16:56,760 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 1: But um, I still expected a pretty good game. It

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01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 1: should be, And I think that's the question. You want

1501
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 1: to operate with Patrick Mahomes. You want to get the

1502
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 1: ball to Kelsey and Juju and Marcus Valda scantling about

1503
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 1: a very nice game in that an f C Championship

1504
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: win over the Bengals. You need time and you're facing

1505
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 1: a team that is five sacks away from breaking the

1506
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: Bears record for the most sacks in a single season

1507
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 1: and postseason. How do the Chiefs handle that pass rush? Yeah,

1508
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 1: that's a good question. Um, you know, they have some

1509
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:30,759
Speaker 1: decisions to make and um, um, it's not gonna be easy.

1510
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 1: I don't think, but I'll say this. I mean, the

1511
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 1: Chiefs were overwhelmed by the Bucks pass rush in the

1512
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 1: Super Bowl two years ago. Um, but I don't see

1513
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 1: a similar thing happening this time. Yeah, the Chiefs have

1514
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 1: upgraded tremendously on the offensive line since then. These are

1515
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 1: four new starters from that game, Um, including uh some

1516
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 1: guys who are going to the Pro Bowl this year,

1517
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 1: and three of them are going to the Pro Bowl.

1518
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 1: Four certainly has a case to be made for him

1519
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 1: going to the Pro Bowl. So Chiefs have a lot

1520
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:07,679
Speaker 1: going for him on that offensive line. But it's gonna

1521
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,640
Speaker 1: be a challenge, no doubt about it. Where do you

1522
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 1: put what Chris Jones did in the a f C

1523
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 1: Championship in terms of things you've seen him do in

1524
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 1: big moments for this team. Yeah, well, I mean, you know,

1525
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 1: it's funny he had never had a postseason sack until

1526
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:25,679
Speaker 1: the NFTY Championship game, which is crazy because he's played

1527
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 1: some really good games. Um, you know, he just hasn't

1528
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 1: sucked the quarterback. I mean the Super Bowl fifty four

1529
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:34,600
Speaker 1: against the forty nine ers, he knocked down three passes

1530
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 1: and was a pretty good force that day. Didn't get

1531
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 1: to the quarterback, but he got a hit on the quarterback,

1532
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 1: made him. Garoppolo made him throw an interception that day.

1533
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 1: So you know, he's done some really good things in

1534
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 1: big games. But that was the first sack, first couple

1535
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 1: of sacks he's he's had so h but just a

1536
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 1: tremendous game, and um, you know, I think the Chiefs

1537
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 1: are gonna need something similar for from him if they're

1538
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:02,640
Speaker 1: gonna win on Sunday. They will, And you're right that

1539
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 1: past break up. As I grew up in the San

1540
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 1: Francisco Bay area and grew up a Niners fan, my

1541
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 1: father a die hard Niners fan, the past breakup I

1542
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 1: think it was on a past the kittle that probably

1543
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 1: won them the Super Bowl that Chris Jones got his

1544
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:15,640
Speaker 1: big mid up there, because that looked like that was

1545
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:17,680
Speaker 1: gonna be a nice completion with a chance for for

1546
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: more there. So he has been good and that kind

1547
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 1: of flips it around, right. So we talked a little

1548
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 1: about the offense against the defense for the Chiefs, this

1549
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 1: defense led by Chris Jones. They get Lagarius sneed back.

1550
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,680
Speaker 1: Those rookies have had great seasons, but this is a

1551
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 1: very difficult offensive deal with elite offensive line, hurts. Dual threat.

1552
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:37,839
Speaker 1: Sanders is you know, the least talked about yard eleven touchdown,

1553
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 1: five yard to carry back maybe in NFL history. A

1554
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 1: J Brown, Vante Smith got it. It's a complete team.

1555
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 1: It's a complete team. How did the Chiefs slow them down? Yeah, yeah,

1556
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 1: that's a good question, you know. I, Uh, this game

1557
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:54,640
Speaker 1: to me is like all Chiefs games that I analyze

1558
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 1: and look at beforehand in that I always feel like

1559
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna come down and what happens when the opponent

1560
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 1: has the ball and what what the Chiefs are gonna

1561
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 1: get done on defense and they have to get That's

1562
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 1: how I felt about last week's game, or the a

1563
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 1: C Championship game against Cincinnati, and uh, you know, I

1564
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 1: felt like the Chiefs had to get some things done

1565
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 1: that they hadn't been getting done against the Bengals. You know,

1566
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 1: they needed to pressure the quarterback, which they had not

1567
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 1: done a good job against against Cincinnati where they got

1568
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 1: five sacks and got some other pressures on him on

1569
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, And they needed to uh play well in

1570
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:32,679
Speaker 1: the red zone. They they did Bengals kick to field

1571
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 1: goals on three trips into the red zone. And they

1572
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 1: needed to force a couple of turnovers. They forced a

1573
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 1: couple of turnovers. You know, those are kinds of things

1574
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: they hadn't been doing against Cincinnati. I feel like it's

1575
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 1: going to require a similar effort by the Chiefs this

1576
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 1: week against the Eagles, and they got to make them

1577
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 1: kick field goals. They got to get him off the

1578
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 1: field early with some uh takeaways, a couple of takeaways

1579
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 1: maybe and then some pressure on Jalen Hurts wouldn't hurt either.

1580
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,639
Speaker 1: So I think if the Chiefs can get those three

1581
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 1: things done in a reasonable amount similar to what they

1582
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 1: did maybe against the Bengals last week, that they can

1583
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 1: win this game. That they will win the game. Um,

1584
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 1: but it's uh now whether they can get it done.

1585
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's gonna be a bigger challenge against

1586
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 1: the Eagles that it was against Cincinnati. In your mind,

1587
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 1: is Isaiah Pacheco a little bit of a wild card

1588
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 1: in this one? Because if there is one area and

1589
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 1: this was talking to some of the Eagles people that

1590
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:30,879
Speaker 1: they are susceptible to it is a a power running attack.

1591
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 1: Po Chaco has really kind of brought that to this team.

1592
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 1: Is that could he be a wild card in this one?

1593
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 1: The next factor? Oh? Absolutely he could? I think he

1594
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 1: there's that potential there. He's sort of revitalized the Chief's

1595
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:45,799
Speaker 1: running game since he took over from Clyde Edwards aware

1596
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 1: is the feature back. Um you know, I think that

1597
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 1: healthy dosa dosa Pacheco makes a lot of sense to

1598
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. But um, I just that's not any reads way.

1599
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 1: That hasn't been his way. I ever predict the Chiefs

1600
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 1: are gonna run the ball a lot because Andy Reid

1601
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:06,679
Speaker 1: very seldom does so, even when the opponent is begging

1602
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 1: him to run the ball. So, um, we'll see how

1603
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 1: crucial of a factor Pacheco turns out to be. But

1604
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 1: I do think that, uh, there is that potential, no doubt. Yeah,

1605
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 1: it is gonna be It's gonna be a fun one.

1606
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 1: How big was it for not only the Chiefs, but

1607
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 1: for Harrison Butker, who has had some ups and downs

1608
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 1: this year at times. To put that one through the

1609
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 1: uprights and send them to the Super Bowl? No, No,

1610
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 1: it's a major deal. Um, you know he he's finished

1611
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 1: the season well, he had a great final regular season

1612
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 1: game and then it's been very good in the playoffs too,

1613
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 1: And that is big for the Chiefs. They've been bleeding

1614
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 1: a lot of points with their kicking game this year. Um,

1615
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 1: their opponents missed two field goals and no p e

1616
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 1: t s all year. Meanwhile, the Chiefs had missed a

1617
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 1: bunch of field goals, a bunch of p E T

1618
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:57,480
Speaker 1: s UM one of the worst UH field goal percentages

1619
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 1: in the league, I think, second worst during the regular season.

1620
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 1: And if I remember right, so, you know that's another

1621
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: place the Chiefs can't can't be lacking there. They can't

1622
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 1: give up points against this opponent. Um when when they

1623
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 1: have a chance to get him. So yeah, they they've

1624
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:15,679
Speaker 1: got to make their kicks to Harrison. Butker is another

1625
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 1: kind of X factor for me. If he has a

1626
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 1: strong game. Um, that's another factor in the Chief's favorite.

1627
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 1: All right, how do you see it going? What's your prediction? Well,

1628
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 1: like I said earlier, if the Chiefs can get some

1629
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 1: things done defensively like they did against Cincinnati, I feel

1630
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 1: pretty good about their chances to win. I just don't know.

1631
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 1: They've been up and down on defense this year, and um,

1632
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 1: you know that their pass rush has been fairly consistent,

1633
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 1: But other than that, you don't know what you're gonna

1634
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 1: get from that group from week to week. So I

1635
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 1: just don't know that you can count on the Chiefs defensively.

1636
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 1: And in that case, I'm gonna go with the Eagles

1637
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:55,559
Speaker 1: in a close game, a high scoring game, ABE thirty

1638
01:23:55,600 --> 01:24:00,080
Speaker 1: four thirty something like that. Wow, I have a feeling

1639
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a great one. It'll be interesting to

1640
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 1: see how it all shakes out. So many storylines, it

1641
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 1: should be great. One seed, verse, one seed, Let it rip. Adam,

1642
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us, Hey, any kind

1643
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 1: of guys? Alright? That was ESPN NFL Nation Chiefs Reporter

1644
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:17,599
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1654
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 1: if you're just joined the show now and you missed

1655
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 1: the one on with Gymp Schwartz, find it. I know

1656
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna post it. Seek it out on the podcast,

1657
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:00,560
Speaker 1: listen to it. It was awesome news, very generous with

1658
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 1: his time, generous with his answers, and I think you'll

1659
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 1: learn a lot about him, his philosophy as a coach,

1660
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 1: and and kind of a look at what we'll we'll

1661
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 1: get out of this team. Also, best wishes to the half. Yeah,

1662
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 1: I said the half. They're not going to get this wrong.

1663
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a first ballot Hall of Famer because

1664
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 1: he just is. That's It's like when the guy got

1665
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 1: up to speak on behalf of who, I forget who

1666
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:25,800
Speaker 1: he was paid Manny. It's paid Manning. It's the half.

1667
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 1: That's why you call him that. That's because he is

1668
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 1: so best elected him Tonight. NFL Honors will be going

1669
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 1: on tonight, so lots of good stuff there to check

1670
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:35,559
Speaker 1: out and should be a lot of fun. But obviously

1671
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:37,600
Speaker 1: hope we're all hoping for the great news about our

1672
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,640
Speaker 1: good friend number seventy three, the Half, Joe Thomas. And

1673
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 1: if he does go in, if he is in fact

1674
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 1: in shrine in the Hall of Fame, we might have

1675
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 1: a chance to talk with him tomorrow. I'm assuming that

1676
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 1: we will find time more importantly, I'm assuming he will

1677
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 1: make a few minutes help. He's gonna be He's gonna

1678
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:59,919
Speaker 1: be quite in demand, a busy man out there. He yes, yes, yes, indeed,

1679
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 1: I just wonder like he is not a man that

1680
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 1: is that is one with the lime light. No, you know,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't like it on him, but it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: on you for the next eight months and again deservedly,

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01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 1: so embrace it, enjoy it, like come on, like I

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01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 1: don't know what time this is going down tonight, Like

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01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 1: I feel like we're gonna have to stay up late

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01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:28,679
Speaker 1: before we get the official notification. But it's worth it,

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01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 1: like it's gonna be a moment that they won't forget.

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01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 1: No mmm m m m m m m mmm. With

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Speaker 1: Schwartz today, he was great, really enjoyed talking with him.

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Speaker 1: So we got to give him a lot of thanks.

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01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 1: Thanks to Gerd Cherry for joining us as well, thanks

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01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 1: to Adam Tysher from joining the program again. People from

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01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 1: Arizona Colls with a d C right here in the studio,

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01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 1: so it's been fantastic. And then give a bond village

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01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:58,759
Speaker 1: to you. Yep, I'll be back Tuesday. Word from Bishop

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01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:04,759
Speaker 1: no I and him. I sent him the a fun

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01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 1: text and then asked him how's Disney brother kids must

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01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:09,679
Speaker 1: be loving it nothing. He's enjoined, he's in the moment.

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Speaker 1: Other's nice. Weather's good. Yeah, and I'm getting good weather.

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01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 1: It looks like the weather. He's gonna have one bad

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01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 1: day Saturday. It's now going to be Sunday when he's

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01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 1: slaying home. So he should be good, he should be all.

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01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 1: It's safe, he's gonna he's gonna be a real delight

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01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:27,800
Speaker 1: for him. I think Bo's calling in tomorrow a little

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01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 1: final over unders of the year, the super Bowl score.

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01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 1: I think poisal will be in studio final position, preview

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01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,679
Speaker 1: or review. I should say mail bag tomorrow, yep, little

1708
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 1: mail bags, So get ready with that. If I'm feeling

1709
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: really saucy, I might even take a caller too. I

1710
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think that ends well for anyone

1711
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 1: could if they have good calls, we can have a

1712
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 1: great time, some great discourse. Drops a bumb and then

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01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:56,680
Speaker 1: well they we dropped that, and then that's it. Then

1714
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 1: they get punished. That's it. You don't get it out

1715
01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:02,839
Speaker 1: and no more. If if that kind of behavior happens,

1716
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:06,839
Speaker 1: come on, respect the process. As they say, respect the process.

1717
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:08,599
Speaker 1: So coming up next, you got the next level. Gerarde

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01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 1: and Emmett draft are they both out there? Just grade

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01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 1: out there? Emmett got short changed. I don't know he's

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01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 1: he's he's just discovering how great Scott Sale is. Like

1721
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,720
Speaker 1: five minutes from now, and in the time that we've

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01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 1: been on the year, I feel like there's been eighteen

1723
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 1: there's been a lot hundred second round picks that have

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01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 1: been treated. Also, by the way r I p Burt

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Speaker 1: back Ire, Yeah, I had a great cameo obviously a

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01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 1: great musician, but a tremendous cameo in Austin Powers. Yes,

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01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 1: he did what the world needs. Now is love all right?

1728
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,679
Speaker 1: Not just for some? For everyone? We love you. Thanks

1729
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:49,760
Speaker 1: for joining us. Let's go a half for jib A Connor,

1730
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:53,560
Speaker 1: for Drod, for Jim Schwartz. Nathan's gros saying thanks for

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01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 1: listening to Clean Brown's Daily, brought to you by Bally

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Speaker 1: Bet coming soon to Ohio. The next level is next

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Speaker 1: here on eight fifty s PN Cleveland. You've been listening

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Speaker 1: to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of the Cleveland Browns

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