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Speaker 1: And we welcome you into Barria, home of the Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Browns and the best podcast available training camp addition, first

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Speaker 1: day in Pads for your Cleveland Browns. I'm Jason Gibbs

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Speaker 1: alongside Andrew Gribble and Gribbs let's get right down to it.

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Speaker 1: The news of the day coming from Borea and it

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Speaker 1: revolves around our star running back Nick Chubb, who left

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Speaker 1: the football field after a after a hard tackle from

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Speaker 1: Mack Wilson. Uh. An update Nick Chubb for the people

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Speaker 1: Mr Group. Yeah, it's not much of an update, but

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Speaker 1: it's kind of what we figured while we when we

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Speaker 1: watched it. He's he's being evaluated for a possible concussion

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Speaker 1: and we know, you know, those evaluations can take a

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Speaker 1: little bit, but I'm sure we'll get some clarity on it.

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Speaker 1: Likely would be before Tuesday's practice, but not something you

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Speaker 1: want to see on the practice field. Hopefully something he

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Speaker 1: kind of happen. But it's unfortunate for a guy that

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Speaker 1: hasn't missed a snap really basically since he's been with

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Speaker 1: the Browns playing all thirty two games. Uh, so you

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Speaker 1: haven't seen this guy hurt very much. So always always

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Speaker 1: tough to see one of the best players go down. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and again, you never want anybody to have a concussion,

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Speaker 1: but given the circumstances, it probably it might be the

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Speaker 1: best case scenario. Is that wrong to say? Yeah? I don't,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I want him to be healthy,

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Speaker 1: But like it was, it was a rough tackle and

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Speaker 1: it was raining, and you worry at first, You're like,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that go through your mind

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Speaker 1: about that. So I mean, we wish him well and

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Speaker 1: wish him a speedy recovery, and you know, again, the

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Speaker 1: good news is we still have a month before we

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Speaker 1: play football for real, correct. I think that's the that's

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Speaker 1: the thing. You want to avoids as much of these

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Speaker 1: see guys get hurt, but you don't want to miss

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Speaker 1: opportunities to get down with the off like get the

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Speaker 1: clearly gives after today, Uh, there's there's some some need

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Speaker 1: for more more, more rhythm, more routine for for for

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Speaker 1: this offense. Yeah, yeah, and the one thing I would

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Speaker 1: and then we'll put this all to bed. Here with

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Speaker 1: a teachable moment for a young guy like mack Wilson,

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Speaker 1: who's you know what I mean. We talked about it yesterday.

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Speaker 1: little upset right now. He feels like his room is

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Speaker 1: being undervalued by media and by football pundits or experts. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, it feels like a little disrespect and maybe

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Speaker 1: playing over the top a little playing a little harder

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Speaker 1: But let's not let's not forget that mack Wilson is

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Speaker 1: a young player and he's a rising star in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League. Made a mistake and you know, we

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Speaker 1: move on, I think in that situation. Yeah, And it

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Speaker 1: was just yesterday when Mac was talking about how he

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Speaker 1: He hasn't seen a better one yet and so clearly

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to today. Uh, it was supposed

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Speaker 1: best on Brown's Daily. You said, when your second team,

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Speaker 1: I do think that's it's for for those backup running

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Speaker 1: sixteen games last year. Yeah, no, I would agree game balls,

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