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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha.

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Speaker 2: I'm welcome to stuff I've never told you productive iHeartRadio,

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Speaker 2: and welcome to another step sub sub subsub segment fictional

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Speaker 2: women around the World today. I guess spoilers.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about Astrid from How to Train Your Dragon.

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Speaker 2: So that is a book series that became a animated

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Speaker 2: film series that is now a live action series. Yes,

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Speaker 2: so I feel like the spoilers have passed, but maybe

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Speaker 2: you've just seen the live action one and you don't

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Speaker 2: want any more. Also, they could do something else, but

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Speaker 2: actually I'm going to talk about this more. Apparently after

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Speaker 2: a lot of the kind of Disney live action movies failed,

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Speaker 2: Universal was like you were doing it.

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Speaker 1: Shot for shots. Is just the animated.

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Speaker 2: Movie live Okay, maybe they won't have that many options

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Speaker 2: to change. I don't know, but anyway, spoilers. I did

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Speaker 2: watch this movie recently. So at the live one, we

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Speaker 2: are talking about Ashod Hofferson from How to Train Your Dragon,

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Speaker 2: who is featured in the movies, anti v shows and

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Speaker 2: the comics of this very successful franchise that just opened

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Speaker 2: Universal Theme Parks. And this is sponsored by the way,

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Speaker 2: we always have to say if it is. So they

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Speaker 2: just opened in Universal a new theme park called Epic Universe,

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Speaker 2: and there's a whole section that's just How to Train

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Speaker 2: Your Dragon.

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Speaker 1: So oh, I saw that opened and I thought this

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Speaker 1: one misspelled Epic.

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Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, go ahead, they might have I don't know, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I thought it was like Universal and they were doing

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Speaker 2: it wrong.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Well, now I am the person who is like,

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Speaker 2: watched for the POV if you're riding their roller coaster video?

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Speaker 1: Is I love roller coasters that much? Yeah? I watched

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Speaker 1: all of the How To Train Your Dragon ones?

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Speaker 2: Okay, yes, and it did have this live action remake

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Speaker 2: that came out of the first movie and it was

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Speaker 2: very successful. As I've mentioned before, Despite not really having

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Speaker 2: a strong connection between this and my dad, for some reason,

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Speaker 2: this series became my whole life after he died.

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Speaker 1: I read all the.

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Speaker 2: Books, I watched all the shows. I cosplayed as Hiccup

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Speaker 2: Dragon con Well. My friend went as Astrid. So it

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Speaker 2: sort of has this bittersweet feeling for me now, like

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Speaker 2: I have to prep myself to watch them.

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 2: Maybe this is morbid, but I watched the live action

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Speaker 2: one on the anniversary of my Dud's death. That was

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Speaker 2: the thing I did it, okay, you know do yes?

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Speaker 2: And I have a friend who gave me a toothless

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Speaker 2: it's the dragon pillow pet and so I was talking

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Speaker 2: that and I watched the movie.

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Speaker 1: It was pretty good. It was a good calm day.

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Speaker 1: It was nice.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And if anyone has seen all the movies, you

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Speaker 2: might think that's an interesting series or someone who's giving their.

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Speaker 1: Father to attach to. I can't tell you, man, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know where this came from.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I did watch those as they came out. I

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Speaker 2: I really liked them.

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Speaker 1: I love the music.

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Speaker 2: It always moves me. I don't know, I was super

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Speaker 2: into them. And the animated version, Astrod is voiced by

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Speaker 2: America Fererra. In the live action version, she's played by

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Speaker 2: Nico Parker. And we've talked about how the internet is

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Speaker 2: awful and was like, well, that's not accurate to have

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Speaker 2: Never mind that they're like dragons flying about and stuff,

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Speaker 2: and I'm sure, like the Viking costume, how accurate is that?

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Speaker 1: We have talked about it. We do a lot of episodes,

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Speaker 2: How to Train Your Dragon is a fictional universe in

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Speaker 2: which vikings primarily focused here on Vikings from the island

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Speaker 2: are hounded by dragons stealing their food. The main character, Hiccup,

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Speaker 2: is the son of Burke's Chief Stoic, and Stoic and

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Speaker 2: Causes a lot of disasters in his wake. Stoic is

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Speaker 1: She's like, get out of my weight, I just want

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Speaker 2: During their dragon training sessions where the teens of Burke

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Speaker 2: So one day she follows him and learns that he

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Speaker 2: theory that Hiccup has named Toothless. Hiccup had hit Toothless

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Speaker 2: Hiccup has to push down and move his foot to activate,

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Speaker 2: so they have to work together. So Astrid freaks out

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Speaker 2: this is really cool, seemingly through a hive mind situation.

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Speaker 2: Toothless leads them to the dragon's nash, which just something

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Speaker 2: Hiccup's dad has been looking for his long sought after

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Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, Hiccup's mother was supposedly killed

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Speaker 2: Toothless and a bunch of other dragons drop off the

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Speaker 1: I don't really want to kill you or anything.

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Speaker 2: Hiccup decides to prove in the Ring that dragons aren't

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Speaker 2: When he tells her his plan, she says, that's more

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Speaker 2: We do learn that Astrid, when she was younger, she

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Speaker 1: It's very sweet.

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Speaker 2: Both of Hiccup's parents were very fond of Astrod, and

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Speaker 2: there's so many plot lines I could go over, but

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Speaker 2: in combat, dragon flying, in strategy, but in how she

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Speaker 1: She does.

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Speaker 2: She does also resort to cartoon violence pretty often, so

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Speaker 1: Me, and that's for everything else.

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Speaker 2: You see her insecurities, like around being a girl when

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Speaker 2: what if I'm not. And then when Hiccup started beating

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Speaker 2: the I'm already here, yeah, and come up.

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Speaker 1: Here with me. Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: I Like I said, this is still Hiccup and Toothless's

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Speaker 2: It was fun to try to tell it from her

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that she's a pretty equal character.

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Speaker 2: It's still their story, but I feel like she's really

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Speaker 2: important in it, and she's pretty she's pretty equal. They

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Speaker 2: always go on missions together. They're like a there's a

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Speaker 1: Combat couple. Of of course you.

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