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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive by him Dale Lalli. He is

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Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson and Matt, it's another victory Monday for

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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. And had them all the way.

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Speaker 2: They get six and three, I mean six and three,

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Speaker 2: one double the got out of games you've lost, and

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Speaker 2: here we sit on November thirteenth. I mean, you'll take it,

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Speaker 2: no matter how you get it. The pretty win thing

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Speaker 2: I don't really even care about at this point. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they're not really equipped to beat teams thirty nothings such

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Speaker 2: as life, but they run the football. I mean, there's problems.

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Speaker 2: We say the same thing every Monday. It seems like,

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean, here's.

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Speaker 1: The thing, Matt. They trailed in that game yesterday for

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Speaker 1: exactly two minutes in one second of game time. I

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Speaker 1: mean actually one minute and fifty nine seconds of game time. Wow,

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Speaker 1: And people were acting like, oh, the Packers were just

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Speaker 1: kicking their butts up and down the field. They were

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Speaker 1: getting control of that game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I though it was a pretty even

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Speaker 2: fight from much of it. Steelers score, Packers score, Steels

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Speaker 2: field goal, they kick a field goal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it really wasn't though. They Steelers so

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Speaker 1: they both scored on their opening drives. The Steelers didn't

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Speaker 1: go back down and score. The Packers didn't score again.

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Speaker 2: No. And the other thing too, is the Packers didn't

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Speaker 2: have any points in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: Right, they get shot in the fourth quarter. It was

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Speaker 1: seventeen to seven at one point, and the Packers fought

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Speaker 1: their way back. Good for them. They finally take the

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Speaker 1: lead with three minutes and four seconds left in the

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Speaker 1: third quarter. And then the Steelers you know, bing bing,

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Speaker 1: big big bing rate do on the field and they

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Speaker 1: went bing bing bing down the field, not really throwing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they score in a minute and fifty nine seconds. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't fourth quarter, Kenny, in this game at all.

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Speaker 2: It was just a dominant run game. Really, we previewed

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Speaker 2: the Packers. I mean, teams are running the ball against

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Speaker 1: It hadn't been running the ball like that though.

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Speaker 2: No, No, a very high percentage of of the time.

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Speaker 2: And the Steelers said, well, that's exactly what we want

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Speaker 2: to do, so we're going to do it. And I

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Speaker 2: do believe that the foundation that was poured last year

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Speaker 2: with the run game is back, you know, Like I

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Speaker 2: trusted the Steelers run game. Now, you know it's several

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Speaker 2: games in a row. You see the changes in the

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Speaker 2: blocking schemes. You have a new right tackle that looks

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Speaker 2: like a budding star, the tight ends and receivers are contributing,

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Speaker 2: and the ball carriers are hard to get on the ground.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's that's so. I mean they ended

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Speaker 1: up averaging five point seven yards per carry yesterday, which

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it's and they're not breaking off eighty yarders.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean their long run is Jay Dylon had

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Speaker 2: one long run, but other than that, they had nothing

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Speaker 1: Yes, speaking of that one, that one was like Mark

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Speaker 1: Robinson ran into the line of scrimmage like he was

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Speaker 1: shot out of a gun. Yeah, right into the league block.

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Speaker 1: Is aj Dillon's running by running right by him?

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Speaker 2: Which is kind of what Robinson is at this point, folks.

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Speaker 2: He shows up every snap, almost good or bad.

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Speaker 1: He was going on like one thousand miles an hour

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Speaker 1: with his hair on fire, right past the ball carrier.

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Speaker 2: He can run. But I said last year, he's a

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Speaker 2: year away from me to the year away. But he

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Speaker 2: might have to be. He might have to be a

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Speaker 2: year ready. Now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you take that one out of the equation.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's it's like nothing.

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Speaker 1: It's twenty three carries for seventy six yards. You'll take that.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, again, especially against that running attack.

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Speaker 2: And I thought the key of the game was stopping

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Speaker 2: Aaron Jones. Yeah, you know, we talked about that having

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Speaker 2: a really lounch of different shows, and they really did

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Speaker 1: They did, and again, running the they just controlled the

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Speaker 2: Yes, I agree with that too. I mean we weren't

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Speaker 2: asking the defense to be out there a ton of snaps.

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Speaker 2: You were physical. I know you were at the Mike

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Speaker 2: of that where he praised the big people. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: the game was one of the trenches.

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Speaker 1: It was one of the trenches and Mike Tomlin. I

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Speaker 1: to run the football this week and we're going to

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Speaker 1: stick with the run game. Yeah, and we're just going

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Speaker 1: to continue to run the football. And they took it

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Speaker 1: Pickett's performance, Well, he was only three four hundred and

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Speaker 1: twenty six yards. Yeah, but you know three he did

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Speaker 1: what was needed in the passing game for the most part.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I'm still baffled by the lack of

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Speaker 2: that's Kenny's scheme what, because we saw lots of glimpses

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Speaker 1: I can tell you what it is.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it is Kenny, I was saying, because he's reluctant

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Speaker 2: to let it go.

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Speaker 1: The people saying the coaching staff doesn't draw things up

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Speaker 2: In the all twenty two I have not watched of

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Speaker 2: this game. That's why I was hesitant to say.

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Speaker 1: There are guys in the middle of the field. He

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Speaker 1: just doesn't make those throws. Now that being said, do

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Speaker 1: we feel differently about that if they get the long

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Speaker 2: And he's like when they needed it most though, that's

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Speaker 1: And he finishes fifteen, what would be fifteen to twenty

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Speaker 1: four for about one hundred fie fifty eight yards one

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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty four years. It was like a twenty

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Speaker 1: they're they're running the clock out at the end of it,

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Speaker 1: and they don't give up that yardage. First of all,

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Speaker 1: was such a flukey thing. I asked you. I went

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Speaker 1: to Calvin Austin after the game, like, did you even

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Speaker 2: You know. Watching on TV, im like Thatt t an

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Speaker 2: easy flag. I mean it looked like a pick. Whether

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Speaker 2: it was intentional or not, I don't know that as

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Speaker 1: If you watch it slowed down though, he's trying to

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Speaker 2: I mean, I thought it was an easy flag, not

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Speaker 2: what it was designed to do. It It was not

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Speaker 2: a twenty yard downfield pick play I mean, I thought

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Speaker 2: it was odd. You don't run those that far. They

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if if Pickens ran his route.

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Speaker 2: To to you know away it was drawn up that way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if somebody ran their route too

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was fluky to begin with. I

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Speaker 2: thought it was a flaggy to throw. But I thought

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Speaker 2: it was fluky to begin with because you wouldn't design

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The worst thing is the cornerback's already in the

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And initially I'm like, why would you do that, Calvin?

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Speaker 2: And then after reading things and you're your quotes like

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Speaker 2: Really yeah, a penalty penalty.

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Speaker 1: But so if they get that play, nobody's talking, Oh, Pickings,

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Speaker 1: he did he did enough, you know, No.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't think pick It even played terribly.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he wasn't asked to do much. They didn't

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Speaker 2: still can't quite wrap my head around it because my

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Speaker 2: he watches every game with me since he was five

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Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, Mike, you know, this was like seven

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Speaker 2: yards pick it through for today? And we're both talking

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Speaker 2: about it. Peop played pretty well and he's like, I

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Speaker 2: know you're tricking me, Dad, I'm gonna say two hundred.

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Speaker 2: odd situation to me, and I think people.

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Speaker 1: People look I think what happens a lot of times

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Speaker 1: with players is people look at things through a fantasy.

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Speaker 2: Final and hey, we're guilty, least with other players and stuff.

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Speaker 2: We do a fantasy segment every day, you know.

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Speaker 1: You know, quite frankly, if if you put another quarterback,

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Speaker 1: has played not turning it, they've turned They've not turned

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he hasn't thrown a pick in since the

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Speaker 2: Houston game. Yeah. I mean it's a lot of throws

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Speaker 2: Lot of quarters of play, it's a lot of passing attempts. Now,

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Speaker 2: I did think he got away with one, the one

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Speaker 2: of bounds. Like, I thought that was a bad decision,

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Speaker 2: a bad throw, which geez, I mean, if you have

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Speaker 1: Couldn't believe they called that an interception at first.

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Speaker 2: Oh me too. I mean it was clearly not a

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Speaker 2: not an easy one, not a hard one to overturn

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Speaker 2: pretty obvious, you know, Like you and I were talking

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Speaker 2: off the air, like we're gonna talk Browns, We're gonna

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Speaker 2: talk Ravens, we're gonna talk Bangles. Crazy crazy day in

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Speaker 2: the division. But the craziest thing that happened to Di

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Speaker 2: vision was Browns beating the Ravens how it went down

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Speaker 2: of that game and lost. Like that's the first time

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Speaker 2: something crazy. But what happened this could been getting back

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Speaker 2: to pick It was the Ravens kept making errors as

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, But they rush for two hundred and five yards

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Speaker 2: They're hard to tackle and they're both complimenting each other

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Speaker 2: You know, they're they're doing more than their part too.

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Speaker 2: Just he's got that foot frequency too. His feet never move.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean they've got had a nice thing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I thought they got some pressure on it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Benton pushed the pocket and you know

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you won't want to look at that. Yeah, this

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Speaker 2: Wow, because he's been like one of their highest graded

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Speaker 1: He looked like he looked like a bouncer going in

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Speaker 2: and his tackles or I forget what his stats were,

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Speaker 2: but there was all good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he had three, i think six total tackles, two

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Speaker 1: quarterback hits. I'm looking at it right here. When six tackles,

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Speaker 1: two quarterbacks hit a pet one of them a past defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think he would have get got the

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Speaker 2: sack of what didn't get them there.

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Speaker 1: Initially they initially they spot in the press box and

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Speaker 1: then they ended up giving it to Watt. I think

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Speaker 1: I think Love just stepped out of Benton's grasp when

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Speaker 1: what when what took him down?

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Speaker 2: But Benton caused that as much as Watt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he did, yeah, holding stuff that that was ye yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I thought that that. I thought those officials were

451
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Speaker 1: rather pass happy in the secondary, Let's put it that way.

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Speaker 1: There was a stretch there, I think in the first

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Speaker 1: half where'd be a pass and you'd have to wait

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Speaker 1: like five seconds to make sure somebody wasn't throwing a FLA.

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Speaker 1: And it happened to both teams, so it was it

456
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Speaker 1: even doubt. But I'm watching the one throwing.

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Speaker 2: A lot more than the other.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm just like, you'd see a pass throw

459
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Speaker 1: and you'd be like, because a couple of the first

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Speaker 1: couple of times the pass be thrown, guys get up,

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Speaker 1: they start walking back to the huddle and their flag

462
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Speaker 1: would come out, like, what are we doing here? Guys?

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Speaker 2: It seemed like late flags they were really yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: And there definitely was a lot of holding. I mean,

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Speaker 2: but to the Steelers' credit, they adjusted and started sending

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Speaker 2: some blitzes. Yeah, and everyone knows that. You know, Watt

467
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Speaker 2: is going to be the left defensive end if you're

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Speaker 2: looking at the quarterback, you know, left end and often

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Speaker 2: going to rush wide. So they were bringing blitzes.

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Speaker 1: To that gap.

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Speaker 2: They were compromising so much. So good adjustments and second

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Speaker 2: half defense pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was one on third down Elijah Riley didn't

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Speaker 1: get there, but he flushed him out of the pocket

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Speaker 1: to force a bad throw and get get them off

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Speaker 1: the field. That again, that's that's good coaching, and that's

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Speaker 1: that's what you do in those situations.

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Speaker 2: And to your point, I mean they count on Riley

479
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Speaker 2: and Thompson being out as much as that was not

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Speaker 2: the plan going into the fourth quarter, right, so they

481
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Speaker 2: just on the fly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they made it work. And now they're six and three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, so maybe Mica comes back, who knows, they

484
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Speaker 2: make it supposed to be back. Yeah, I figured as much.

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Speaker 1: The people are without and they should get Fiarmouth back

486
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Speaker 1: for this game as well.

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Speaker 2: So be interesting. It's starting to uh in my middle

488
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Speaker 2: of the field throwing. You should help that as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, some of that. But they're six and three through

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Speaker 1: nine games. Last year at this time they were three

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Speaker 1: and six through nine games and people were acting like

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Speaker 1: this is still that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, boys, same old Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Not quite well, if if same old Steelers means yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're eighteen and five in their last or thirteen and

496
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Speaker 1: five in their last eighteen games. Yeah, they're same old Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Steels have been winning a lot lately.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so and itway we're gonna get to a break.

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Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening

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Speaker 1: win here looking at the DVOA ranking or ratings here

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Speaker 1: on FTN Fantasy. The Steelers have improved their playoff odds.

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Speaker 1: This according to what this takes into.

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Speaker 2: Account breakers, tiebreakers, their.

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Speaker 1: Schedule remaining, all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: So we went over getting Lamar is going to get

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Speaker 2: hurt in December. But they're saying this is how it

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Speaker 2: projects right now as.

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Speaker 1: Things sit right now. Baltimore Now, because after the loss.

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Speaker 2: To Clevelandleland big win for the Browns.

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Speaker 1: Now has a ninety four percent chance to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: That didn't change a whole lot.

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Speaker 2: No, No, they're still in pretty good shape. Cleveland's all

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Speaker 2: three of their losses are AFC and two of them

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Speaker 2: are Divisional.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Cleveland has an eighty two point six percent chance

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Speaker 1: to make.

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Speaker 2: To make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's their schedule is much easier in terms of DVOA.

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Speaker 2: They rested away, it's much easier in Cincinnati's.

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is now at sixty three point four percent and

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati with their loss to the Houston Texans, is at

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Speaker 1: thirty point six percent.

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Speaker 2: Without that as well as they were playing and burrows

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Speaker 2: back and now you're three out of ten chances.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing Cincinnati's now one in four in AFC

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Speaker 1: games in the conference.

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Speaker 2: They're tied with Denver and oh and two in the

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Speaker 2: division in terms of trying to get up the winning.

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Speaker 1: Oh and three. No, I'm sorry, you're right. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: wasn't a division, yame, but their tied with Denver for

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Speaker 1: the worst, the worst winning percentage in AFC games. They're

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Speaker 1: both won in for Denver of course placed tonight.

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Speaker 2: And they have the hardest schedule remaining in the league.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they still have to go to Kansas City, they

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Speaker 1: still have to go to Jacksonville. They still have to

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Speaker 1: go to Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: I think Miami might be in the schedule too, they

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Speaker 2: might have. They got the Ravens Thursday too.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I don't know if they have.

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Speaker 2: No, they can't Miami, No, they would they have Miami, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's that's not right. They have the bills from that division.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if I think they still have a game against

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Speaker 1: the Vikings though, too, and the Vikings will win five

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Speaker 1: in a row.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not a pushover. Yeah right, and all the

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Speaker 2: division stuff.

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Speaker 1: And all the division stuff, and they play Thursday night

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Speaker 1: this week.

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Speaker 2: To go in Baltimore. More in a couple of days

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Speaker 2: from now.

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Speaker 1: That's another one that they have. Like if the Bengals lose.

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Speaker 2: That game to Baltimore, the Bengals, oh, they might be done.

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Speaker 1: They might be done now. They could play spoiler the

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Speaker 1: rest of.

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Speaker 2: The way, but they can still be hard to play again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're probably not going to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean they would. They might have to sweep

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Speaker 2: from there on out.

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Speaker 1: If you lose, certainly win all their AFC games and

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Speaker 1: go beat Kansas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you know right, right? Are they capable? Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: they have.

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Speaker 1: Done can't You can't stub your toe.

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Speaker 2: Again, No, especially losing to an AFC team. So people

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Speaker 2: might realize this by now, But the Bengals are zero

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Speaker 2: and two in the division. The Ravens and Browns are

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Speaker 2: two and two in the division, Steelers two and oh

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Speaker 2: in the division, right, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Like, it's all still ahead of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, even if they go two and four

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Speaker 2: in the division, that doesn't mean nail in the coffin.

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Speaker 1: There's a funny, funny tweet last night from Jake Trotter,

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Speaker 1: who is ESPN's reporter in Cleveland. Yeah, yeah, said, he

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Speaker 1: tweeted out, I assume he was being straight about this,

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Speaker 1: that the Browns are now in the driver's seat in

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Speaker 1: the AFC North after their win over the Ravens on Sunday. Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, they're in third place right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that's by definition not the driver's seat unless you're

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Speaker 1: a backseat driver.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Right, but they're still they're two and two in the

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Speaker 1: in the division.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be different if they were sitting at two

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Speaker 2: and oh and right.

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Speaker 1: You know, technic, the Steelers are in the driver's seat

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Speaker 1: because they're the only team that's unbeaten in the division.

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Speaker 1: They've still got everything out and they're not in the

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Speaker 1: driver's seat.

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Speaker 2: I mean, in a way, they all are. If you

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Speaker 2: win every.

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Speaker 1: Game they or control their own, they're not out of it.

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Speaker 2: So you're in the driver's seat. But they're not in

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Speaker 2: the best shape in the division.

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Speaker 1: I mean, technically, the Ravens are still in the driver's seat.

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Speaker 1: They're still in first place. But yeah, if Cincinnati wins

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Speaker 1: wins in Baltimore on Thursday night, Sunday's game between the

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Speaker 1: Steelers and Browns becomes for first.

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Speaker 2: Place, Yeah, it becomes amazing.

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Speaker 1: The winner is in first place, and.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure wait, if the Ravens lose. If the Ravens lose,

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Speaker 2: they'll be a favorite, but not by a bazillion. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that's gonna be a close game. It's a

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Speaker 2: very losable game for Baltimore. So I think we wanted

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Speaker 2: the Ravens to beat the Browns. We talked about this

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Speaker 2: a little on Friday because the Browns would have been

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Speaker 2: in much worse shape and it didn't kill the Ravens. No,

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Speaker 2: but if who do we want to win Thursday? Because

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Speaker 2: I think if the Bengals lose.

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Speaker 1: If the Bengals lose, they're done.

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Speaker 2: Then they're they're in trouble.

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Speaker 1: The thing is, if the Ravens lose and you can

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Speaker 1: find a way to now, you now you can start

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Speaker 1: thinking about, hey, can we win the division?

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Speaker 2: Because two days ago, I didn't think of Serros Division, right,

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Speaker 2: you know, Not not that I was predicting a Ravens blow.

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Speaker 2: I thought they would win, but I mean they thought,

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Speaker 2: you know, this is this is now? Something't the Bengals

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Speaker 2: and Ravens.

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Speaker 1: Would they blew a double digit lead to the Browns.

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Speaker 1: They blew a double digit lead to the Steelers. They

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Speaker 1: blew the leads in the fourth quarter, against Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and this goes back to last year. This has

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Speaker 2: been a trend with them too. You know that they're

635
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Speaker 2: not putting teams away, so that's.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they do put some teams away, but it

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Speaker 1: doesn't they put the NFC teams away.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So they were never losing in that game right

639
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Speaker 2: until they were right. I mean when the ball went

640
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Speaker 2: through the uprights of zero seconds on the clock, was

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Speaker 2: the only time they were losing in the entire game. Yeah,

642
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: you know, and that's how they been all year. But

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Speaker 2: they still three losses. I mean they were winning three

644
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Speaker 2: losses ninety again.

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Speaker 1: Well it really uh So last week, just a week ago,

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Speaker 1: Tony Romoz was talking about how I'm watching that game

647
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Speaker 1: the Ravens and who they play Seattle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just don't see how anybody could come in here

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Speaker 1: and beat this Ravens team.

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Speaker 2: They're just yeah yeah, worlds or Oyster Yeah yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well they've not lost two home games. No, I still

653
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Speaker 1: think they're really good, including one to Indianapolis. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: one Indianapolis is not good. No, I watched that game

655
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Speaker 1: on that They're they were very fortunate to be playing

656
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Speaker 1: New England this week.

657
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Speaker 2: Absolutely were, and I don't think Indianapolis or the Jets

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Speaker 2: or the Raiders of any chance anymore. No, I mean,

659
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,719
Speaker 2: I know the Raiders beat the Jets, but that might

660
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 2: eliminate the Jets. Like, I don't know, I don't know

661
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 2: if the Chargers have a shot. Chargers of the other

662
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 2: one I was on, they're on life support. They're on

663
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: life support. At least it was an NFC loss. But well,

664
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 2: let's look at those Houston's back in it.

665
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: Let's look at those odds in the af see then,

666
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: so after this week's games, now we still have Buffalo

667
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: to play tonight in Denver. Denver's not in it.

668
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 2: Denver's not in it. But Buffalo happens to lose tonight.

669
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: Oh that might be it. Yeah they're done. Yeah, that

670
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: would be their fifth conference loss.

671
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, losing de Cinti last week was critical.

672
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: So Miami is in first place in the AFC East.

673
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: They were on the by their mean wins. Now, this

674
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: is what they what DVOA is projecting their wins to

675
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: be ten point nine.

676
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: Okay, part of me thinks the Bills have to win

677
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: their division.

678
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: I think they do, because they lose, they'll lose a

679
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: lot of tie breakers. Yeah, they have an eighty three

680
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: percent chance to make the playoffs by that. Yeah, the

681
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: Bills are at nine point seven going into tonight. Uh,

682
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: they have a forty eight point three percent chance to

683
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, so less than fifty, less than fifty.

684
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: The Jets now at four and five. Their mean wins

685
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: is seven point four. They have a seven point nine

686
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,959
Speaker 1: percent chance to make the playoff, So they're pretty much done.

687
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 2: I think they're cooked.

688
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: New England is two and eight. They're mean wins now

689
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: is four point seven.

690
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're talking about like first overall pick.

691
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have a point one percent chance to make

692
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: the playoffs. By the way, that the fake spike the

693
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: final they pull Mac Jones from the game. They get

694
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: a first down. It's they get a first down run

695
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: of his fourth down. They get that, they get it,

696
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: they measure it. It's good. Zappy hurries them up to

697
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. I don't have any times left,

698
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: takes a three step drop, does a big convoluted fake

699
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: spike like, winds up on it, and then drops back

700
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: two more steps and throws the ball into quadruple coverage

701
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: where my guy Rodney Thomas picks it off.

702
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: No, I didn't realize who it was and that's how

703
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: you lose.

704
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: And I just chuckled. They showed Belichick on the sidelines

705
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: just like ah and covering his face, like I can't

706
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: believe we just did that.

707
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 2: You imagine on that flight from Germany.

708
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: Oh, you got a good ten hours to think about

709
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: that one.

710
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: At least it's a word the whole time. You don't

711
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 2: even like doze off your slore and getting to you.

712
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: And actually, oh man, that has a rough watch too.

713
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 2: They're horrible, They're awful. I think they own the third

714
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: pick in the draft right now. Yeah, and if it's

715
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: off for the Giants, Giants aren' gonna win again.

716
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: No, they have an opportunity when they get uh get

717
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: Taylor back. Yeah, I think they can't run that kid

718
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: out there again. No, you got are you gotta start

719
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: more Mike uh or Matt Barkley next week? Anybody direction

720
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,719
Speaker 1: snaps the saquon the entire game would be better blocking.

721
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: Somebody would be a good star too. I mean, like

722
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: they're miserable.

723
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: So the Ravens are now at eleven point nine wins.

724
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: That's their mean total.

725
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like an eleven or twelve win team.

726
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: To me, Yeah, ninety four percent chance to make the playoffs.

727
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: Cleveland is an eleven wins. There's went up.

728
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: David's are scheduled than the Steelers, right, eighty.

729
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: Two point six percent chance to make the playoffs. The

730
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: Steelers now are at ten point one. They were at

731
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: nine point one going into this week's game. I wouldn't

732
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: think that would have been such a wing, so.

733
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: Do you This is a math question that need one

734
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: knows the answer. But if they get one of the

735
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: next two games, I bet that goes up over that point. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

736
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: I would, Yeah, it definitely would.

737
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, uh, sixty three point four percent chance to

738
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. The Bengals are now at nine point

739
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: one there where the Steelers were last week, and thirty

740
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: point six percent chance to make.

741
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: The play Yeah. We mentioned that they're in trouble the

742
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: ropes long shot, they're gonna have to beat Kansas City,

743
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: beat Baltimore around Jacksonville.

744
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: Now at ten point six.

745
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: They should still be comfortable, but they've got embarrassed.

746
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: Seventy eight point four percent chance to make the playoffs.

747
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: You stats aside, do you think Houston or Jacksonville wins

748
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: that the division?

749
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: I still think it's Jacks.

750
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: I think you got the Niners at a bad day.

751
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, Houston nine point four wins and a fifty point

752
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: seven percent chance to make.

753
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: They have a better chance than the Bills, or they

754
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: have a better.

755
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: Chance in the Bills and Bengals. Yes, Indianapolis at five.

756
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: Had a better year.

757
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, you know Indianapolis at five and five? Yeah,

758
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: eight point five wins. Okay, they're not dead the twenty

759
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: six point chance to make the playoffs, but they're doing

760
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: it so strangely.

761
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: It's just it's not I'm not impressed.

762
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: No, no, And then the Titans are at six point

763
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: six wins, they have a four point four percent chance

764
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: to make plas, Yeah, they're done in the West Kansas

765
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: City twelve point seven wins.

766
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: So that's the best get in the AFC.

767
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, ninety eight point three percent chance to make That's

768
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: what really happened on Sunday Kansas Kansas City was off

769
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: and the Ravens and Jaguars both lost.

770
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: And Chargers.

771
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, like there's just anyway now we're the only two

772
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: wit loss team. How about that?

773
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 2: Out here? Things got a lot better for it. Yeah.

774
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: The road now it goes back through arrow ahead.

775
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: Good luck. Meanwhile, the Steelers by the whole division one.

776
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Chargers, now there be long eight point four wins.

777
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 2: So real quick, compare to the Chargers and Colts percentages.

778
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 2: You would think that the Chargers are the better team,

779
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 2: and I do think they're the better team, but I

780
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: bet the Colts have a better chance.

781
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: The Colts were at eight point five wins because they've

782
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: got to win in hand. They're five and five, the

783
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: Chargers are four and five. Yeah, Colts have a twenty

784
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: six point eight chance and the Chargers have a twenty

785
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: three point four percent chance.

786
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: So LA can really maybe lose two more games all

787
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 2: year pretty much basically is where they're at. Yeah, wow,

788
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 2: Vegas firing stuff.

789
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: At five and five the Raiders win total of seven

790
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: point three.

791
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: Wow.

792
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: They according to DVA, they're gonna win the same amount

793
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: of games the rest of the way as the Patriots.

794
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're projecting them to be two and for the

795
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: rest of the way.

796
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, seven and seven and nine or seven and ten basically.

797
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, five the rest of them, Yeah, which is kind

798
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: of who they are.

799
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 1: It is, But I mean, good for them. They've won

800
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: two games. They basically eliminated the Jets last night. I

801
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: think they did well. The Jets eliminated themselves.

802
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: But the Colts and Raiders, despite winning, I think are

803
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: on life support.

804
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

805
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 2: I trust a little more, but not much.

806
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: Denver is at six point four percent four wins and

807
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: at two point seven percent chance to make the plaffs.

808
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: That would go up considerably if they were able to beat.

809
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 2: But their conference record stinks too. Yeah, it's horrible. Yeah,

810
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: they're playing better, but man, I mean, even with the

811
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: wind tonight, I think they're distant shot.

812
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: What we're really seeing here is in terms of reaching

813
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: the conference championship game. M San Francisco leads away at

814
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: fifty four higher. Yeah, NFC's gonna be higher because they

815
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: have an easier path. Baltimore's second at forty seven point nine.

816
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: Kansas City, Oh no, they're not second, Philly. Should we

817
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: say they have these things listed? Actually, Kansas City leads.

818
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 2: The way fifty seven percent making a conference.

819
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: Making the conference championship they do every year, which they

820
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: do every year. I bet that now. Yeah, yeah, they

821
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: don't have these You can't click on it together.

822
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: They can't sort of.

823
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: Baltimore is a forty seven. Detroit is now forty six.

824
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: Percent, huge win, impressive win, good football team.

825
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 1: They have a better chance than Philly at forty.

826
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: I guess there's a chance Dallas wins their division where

827
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: that still is going to win.

828
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: Detroit is running away with that.

829
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 2: Philly could maybe go on the road in Week one. Yeah,

830
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 2: for the playoffs, So I get that. I guess that

831
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: adds on.

832
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Dallas is at thirty percent, just the.

833
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: West and North in the NFC are easier division. Yeah,

834
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: they're going to host a game minimal.

835
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: Miami is at twenty point six percent.

836
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 2: Do they win that division? I don't know if they're

837
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 2: better at worse than the Bills.

838
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: I don't trust them.

839
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: I don't really either. Their defense is rounding in the

840
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: shape coming off of bye. I think's good for some

841
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: of their wattles. Fought a lot of stuff. A Chan's

842
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: coming back. I still don't trust them.

843
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't trust them either.

844
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 2: Can they go to Cleveland, Cincinnati, New England, Buffalo, Kansas

845
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: City and I'm just thinking like weather and run the

846
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: ball and a sloppy game. I don't think they can.

847
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: I don't think they can either. Cleveland is at eighteen

848
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: point one percent. Jacksonville had a seventeen point four percent.

849
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: Buffalo is still at eleven point four percent.

850
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 2: They have a better chance to win their division than

851
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 2: the Steelers.

852
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 1: No, this is they'll get to the conference game.

853
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

854
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: I guess that would be.

855
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: That's probably going to host a Week one game. I

856
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 2: bet that's but that could change considerably after this week.

857
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: They still think the Bills have a better chance to

858
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: win their division than the Steelers do.

859
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: The Steelers are now at ten point eight percent to

860
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 1: go a chance to go to the conference championship.

861
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll roll a ten sided die and hope it

862
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 2: pops up your number, you know.

863
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: To win. Cincinnati, by the ways, now at five.

864
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: Percent, they have to be really bad. Yeah, the Chargers

865
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 2: lower than them.

866
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, the Chargers are two point nine percent.

867
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: I'm sure like indies in that neighborhood too.

868
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: The Steelers have a better chance now to get to

869
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: the conference championship than Seattle.

870
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: Not surprising.

871
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: Seattle's at seven point nine percent.

872
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 2: I assume they think, well, same with Pittsford.

873
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: They have a better chance than New Orleans. New Orleans

874
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: is at nine per three percent. Yeah, but New Orleans

875
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: is probably gonna still division. Yeah, conference championship win.

876
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: Okay, uh.

877
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: San Francisco's at thirty four point one percent, Kansas City's

878
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 1: at thirty three point six percent.

879
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: Those are the two leaders, So they're predicting the super

880
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 2: Bowl to be San Francisco.

881
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Baltimore is at twenty nine point nine percent. Detroit

882
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: again ahead of Philadelphia at twenty four point three percent.

883
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 2: That being said, if Eagles were at Lions this week,

884
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: they're probably favor probably favorite. Yeah.

885
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: Philadelphia is at eighteen point eight. Dallas is at fourteen

886
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: point six. Miami needs to make a Dallas either No,

887
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: I don't either. Yeah, they beat up on bad teams

888
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: or kind of like Philadelphia or kind of like a

889
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: Miami a little bit really beat up on bad yeah,

890
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 1: and then lose the good ones. Dallas is at fourteen

891
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: point six, Miami's at eight point four percent, Cleveland's at

892
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: seven point six percent. I don't see that.

893
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: I can't imagine the Brown's going to Super Bowl.

894
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: Jacksonville's at six point six percent.

895
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 2: I would put a chip down on Jacksonville to go

896
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: to Super Bowl before the Browns.

897
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would too. Buffalo's at four point seven percent.

898
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 2: I put a trip on them too, because if they

899
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 2: they could light the world on fire. Possibly, I don't

900
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 2: think they will, but I would put that chip on

901
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 2: over the Browns or some of these other teams.

902
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: And then you have the Steelers at four point one percent.

903
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: So listener, so they've they've worked their way into the

904
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 1: top ten in this situation.

905
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, That's what I was gonna say, is if on

906
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 2: opening day before the bell sounded, or even better after

907
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 2: opening day? Yeah, right, would you have taken a four

908
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: or five percent chance to be the Super Bowl representative

909
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: in the AFC?

910
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: Better than Cincinnati, better than the Chargers, better than you know,

911
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: all these other.

912
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: Tiers with Buffalo? Yeah, you know, right, would you have

913
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 2: said yes, I'm signed up for that or no, I

914
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: went to or number two? I think you'd say yes,

915
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: especially after Week.

916
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 1: One super Bowl win. Yeah, Okay, you got San Francisco

917
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: at eighteen point eight percent, Then you have Baltimore at

918
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: eighteen point five percent, Then you have Kansas City at

919
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: eighteen point two percent. Then it falls off considerably.

920
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: It sure seems like they think the Niners are going

921
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: to Super Bowl.

922
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: Detroit at eleven point seven percent, Philadelphia at seven point six,

923
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: Dallas at six point nine. Now there's another tier at level.

924
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: You got Miami at three point eight percent, Cleveland at

925
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: three point four percent, Jacksonville at two point eight percent,

926
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: Buffalo at two point three percent, and the Steelers at

927
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: one point seven percent, and then nobody else is over

928
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: a percentage point in the league.

929
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 2: So they're like the only ones that have any sort

930
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 2: of chance basically, Yeah, good by that.

931
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: They Again, they've worked their way into that conversation. You

932
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 1: might not be happy with how they got to six

933
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: and three, right, right, but enjoy being six and three.

934
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: What's ahead of you?

935
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 2: Right? I mean what's ahead of you is pretty favorable.

936
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, win one of these next two if they win

937
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: Sunday in Cleveland.

938
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: Is there a line on that game yet? I'm sure

939
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: the Browns.

940
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: The one I saw that was sent to me was

941
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 1: Browns by three and a half.

942
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 2: I bet it's under three, But those the thing it

943
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 2: was like two and a half, so I'm not too

944
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: far off.

945
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. So again, win that game. It's a winnable game.

946
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: You beat them here, a winnable game. Yeah, so you know,

947
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: do that, maybe be in first place in the AFC.

948
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: If you lose it, you're not out of this conversation.

949
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: No, Well, then the thing is if you win this game.

950
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: Even if Baltimore wins, you still got three losses. They've

951
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: got three losses, they have their buy coming up. You

952
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 1: beat them head to head.

953
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 2: Some diebreakers too, so you know it's all still there

954
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: ahead of them. Like, you can't lose the Colts, you

955
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: can't lose the Patriots. Yeah, don't stub your toe, especially

956
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 2: in AFC game.

957
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't stub your tone in an AFC game.

958
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 2: Interesting, but no, it's not so bad.

959
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to a break. He is Matt Williamson.

960
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

961
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right

962
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: after this. At least.

963
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 3: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

964
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 3: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

965
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 3: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

966
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: Well, come back, I'm Dale LOLLI he is the Matt

967
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: Williamson and Matt. The Steelers made a roster move today.

968
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: They released defensive tackle Brandon Foco. I would assume they

969
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: did that a be able to get him back on

970
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: the practice squad.

971
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would hope. You don't want to lose him.

972
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want to lose him, and then secondly,

973
00:41:55,800 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: you're starting to probably free up some spaces or some spots. Well,

974
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: first of all, they don't want to. They elevated some guys.

975
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: Yesterday, Trent Thompson.

976
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a linebacker as well. Yeah, but probably

977
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: getting ready to make another roster move to sign and

978
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: inside linebacker. We have we haven't really talked about this yet,

979
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: but Kawan Alexander it looks like he has lost for

980
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: the season. That's back to back weeks where you went

981
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 1: from having three guys for two spots to now having.

982
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 2: One for two spots.

983
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

984
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's a big deal and it's gonna be

985
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 2: a difficult thing to overcome adjust to. I think Neil

986
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: will play a lot more linebacker, and he's done that

987
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: in the.

988
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,439
Speaker 1: Past, kind of what he did yesterday after the after

989
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: the injury, which is why Trent and Thompson was out there.

990
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: So if he's out, if Neil becomes your dying linebacker,

991
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: nickel linebacker, a linebacker, and Minka becomes your Trenton Thompson,

992
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: that's a heck of a lot more palatable than what

993
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: they had yesterday. Yeah, but I like Roberts a lot,

994
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 2: But I like Roberts situationally know him and Alexander were

995
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 2: so different. It was nice kind of and Hulkom is

996
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 2: the middle guy where he could do some Alexander stuff,

997
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: some Roberts stuff, right, and now he got plucked obviously,

998
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: and the three of them together I thought were having

999
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: a really good year. It's a problem. I mean, there's

1000
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 2: not gonna be a great solution for this.

1001
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: There isn't. And I know people were wondering about Mark Robinson.

1002
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: I would suggest they go turn on the forty yard

1003
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: run yesterday. Yeah, Mark Robinson runs into that whole one

1004
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: thousand miles an hour right into the lead blocker booms

1005
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: as Dylan runs past him.

1006
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's kind of what he shows on tape

1007
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: time and time again. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's good.

1008
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: He'll run into things really fast, really hard.

1009
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's a ball carrier. Sometimes it's the wrong direction.

1010
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 2: And such his life. Like I said, I think he's

1011
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 2: a year away from being a year away. And that's

1012
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: why so when he got drafted, and that was a

1013
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: year ago. So we'll see. But he's gonna I mean,

1014
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: they'll coach him up and go from there. But he's

1015
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 2: I don't think you want to count on him, I'd

1016
00:43:58,680 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: rather pluck a veteran.

1017
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's let's face, I mean, you know, people

1018
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: talk about Mark Robinson like he was a second round

1019
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: draft pick or something, right, you know, he was a

1020
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: late round draft round pick that you took a chance on.

1021
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: That's a running back learning how to play linebacker, right,

1022
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: they have some traits. Maybe it works out for him.

1023
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 2: I mean, the opportunities happen around the league all the

1024
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: time where somebody steps up because they have to, not

1025
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: because anybody wanted them to.

1026
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, we'll see. But the one thing I will

1027
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: say is this, they are accustomed, since losing Ryan Shazier,

1028
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: to kind of covering up that spot.

1029
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they've gone through a lot of guys and

1030
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: they've had to acclimate quickly, and you know that sort

1031
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 2: of thing. That's certainly true. They're also such a heavy

1032
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: dime team. You can live with one linebacker out there. Yeah, more,

1033
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 2: maybe even more than they have been. I would think

1034
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 2: that would be Neil though, and not Roberts. I mean,

1035
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: in most dime situations, I don't think I want Roberts out.

1036
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: There, you know, unless he's blitzing.

1037
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: But they also play a lot of bass there two

1038
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: of them. Is that going to be Neil and Roberts.

1039
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: It's definitely gonna be Roberts.

1040
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely gonna be Roberts and m We'll see.

1041
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:06,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1042
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: I think they'll kind of string it together and try

1043
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: to make it work. That's a big loss.

1044
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 2: It's a big loss. I mean, just any cluster of

1045
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 2: position injuries is hard, whether it's a position of strength

1046
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: or not. You're not back to back weeks like that

1047
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 2: is why GM's you know, it's a brutal, brutal job. Peop.

1048
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: Don't think about the front office side of it. Like man,

1049
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: boy just praying every night, like, yeah, you pray you

1050
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: don't lose t J. Watt, But boy, I'm really praying

1051
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 2: we don't lose another inside linebacker because I don't really

1052
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 2: have an answer that's suitable.

1053
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, you can only have you can only have

1054
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: so much depth. You lose two starters at one spot,

1055
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna be up against it.

1056
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 2: And every team has an emergency board. You know, as

1057
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 2: soon as Alexander went down, I promise you somebody in

1058
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: the press bat or not the press box, but the

1059
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: box is up there calling agents. I mean, you're definitely

1060
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: reaching out and everybody has their emergency board ready. But

1061
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 2: all those emergency guys are not in the league for

1062
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: a reason. Yeah, most of them have injuries age, they

1063
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: didn't choose to retire.

1064
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: Well, they expanded practice squad does offer.

1065
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: That's better than yeah, you at least you have some

1066
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: familiar faces.

1067
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: So yesterday they elevated Tarik Carpenter. He's a big rangye thing,

1068
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: but he's more of a special teams guy. Yeah, okay,

1069
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 1: but they also have on their practice squad. Why can't

1070
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: I think of his name though, Michael Michael Walker. Oh yeah, yeah,

1071
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: he started. He started a bunch of games last year

1072
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: for the Falcons, like fifteen Star stations, fourthron a like that. Yeah,

1073
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 1: at of Fresno State. So they've got a guy there

1074
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: that maybe you know, he's played, he's been there, done

1075
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: that kind of guy.

1076
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so maybe he gets activated. Back to the Fajoco conversation,

1077
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: Maybe it's as simple as that, or maybe you're yeah,

1078
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 2: I know you mentioned Anthony Barrs out there. I mean

1079
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 2: there's names like that that you don't know what kind

1080
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 2: of shape they're in, right, what you know, is it

1081
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 2: a knee or something that had never healed? Right? Who knows?

1082
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: And then hopefully Firearmouth joined the team too, and you

1083
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 2: got cut somebody else.

1084
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the uh, yeah, that would be the expectation.

1085
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 2: That Thompson would go back if Mink is healthy.

1086
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: I think Thompson automatically reverts back. He was a son

1087
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: that he was, the same thing with the linebacker. They

1088
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: both revert back.

1089
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you.

1090
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: Can do that three times, which brings me to were

1091
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: Shan Evans Ye?

1092
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: Interesting?

1093
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: The Cowboys the past three weeks had had elevated Rashawn

1094
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,919
Speaker 1: Evans from their practice squad and then had him work,

1095
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: go or go back to the practice squad. You can

1096
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: only do that three times before you have to put

1097
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: them on the active roster. So they have a decision

1098
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 1: to make yes, yes today, it has to be today.

1099
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: That has to so after that third time, you either

1100
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: have to put them on your active roster or they

1101
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: become a free agent again.

1102
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 2: So you can't go back to their practice r Okay,

1103
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 2: so it'd be interesting. Yeah, I mean, he's not tremendous.

1104
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 2: I liked them coming out of Bama, and he was

1105
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 2: kicked around a lot in the first round of was

1106
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 2: a year they took Edmonds that was a big linebacker, need,

1107
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 2: and he was already off the board. He hasn't been

1108
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 2: successful in the league, but he is talented and it's

1109
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 2: better on the block. Yeah. So none of the options

1110
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 2: are gonna be great, folks.

1111
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: No, it's not going to replace what you lost. No,

1112
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 1: and happened after trade deadline, Yeah, just after the trade

1113
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: and he was running it through another break. He is

1114
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. That will do it

1115
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: for our number one. We'll be back with our number

1116
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: two of the drive right after this