00:00:09 Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here. I thought I made myself perfectly clear. But you're a guest to my home. You gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guess you're o presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff. 00:00:35 Speaker 2: So how do you dare to surbey me? 00:00:48 Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gifts, I'm pretcher Wineger. We are in the backyard and the temperature is perfect over the weekend. This is something I just want to address immediately. I had to stop in Redlands, California, on my way to another destination, and I needed to pee. I went in a seven eleven, was denied access to the bathroom, but was told to go next door, went next door and was denied access again. And so well, if you're at least if you're a seven eleven or a nail salon in Redlands, California, and you think I'm not going to go behind the building and pee, you have the wrong bridge or winicker. I'm making a prediction right now that there's a feeling in the air. Twenty twenty five is going to be huge for public urination, because it's insane to me that every business can't just have a bathroom that should be a law. That's what I'm fighting for. If you don't let me use your bathroom, I will consider yelping your business and then realizing it's a seven eleven and knowing that will do nothing to you. So just but then I'll talk about it on a podcast. So let's just Uh, that's what happened over the weekend. I peed behind a dumpster and it felt incredible. I felt like I was getting away with something. It felt like I was taking revenge everything, and I was relieving my bladder. So what a combination of feelings. Let's get into the podcast. I love today's guest. I adore her. It's page Weldon page, Welcome to I said, no. 00:02:27 Speaker 4: Gifts, Richer. 00:02:28 Speaker 2: I just want to tell you, have you ever been to Redlands or you've only stopped. 00:02:32 Speaker 3: I've only stopped and I will always just keep going. 00:02:35 Speaker 2: Yeah, I as I'm not from Redlands, but I'm from the Inland Empire, and I have to say that I think peeing behind a dumpster is fully in the culture of of the Inland Empire. That is so I e of you. I think that's completely right what you did. One hundred percent. Oh, no one would blame. 00:02:53 Speaker 3: You I was just camouflaging myself with the local culture. 00:02:55 Speaker 2: Then yes, absolutely, people went there's another a Redland site. 00:03:02 Speaker 3: I'm good at just kind of blending into my surround. Yeah, it's just naturally and this worked. I am telling you, though, I've had several conversations recently, not prompted by me, of other adults talking about needing to pee in public or peeing in public. It's gonna be big next year. 00:03:20 Speaker 2: I think that's fine. I have no personal issue with that. I'm sure whomever may have to hose down the area might have an issue, but. 00:03:33 Speaker 4: I'm not upset with you. 00:03:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if you can find a nice out of the way spot, yeah, if it's behind a dumpster. 00:03:40 Speaker 2: Behind a dumpster, it's sort of expected. Worst things to be dumpster, absolutely. 00:03:45 Speaker 4: Worst things that have happened behind that dumbster. 00:03:49 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:03:50 Speaker 4: I think you're good. Yeah, you're set. 00:03:52 Speaker 3: I just I do find it wild that businesses can tell you you can't use the restaurant. Yeah it feels illegal. 00:03:58 Speaker 4: Yeah, it does feel illegal. Maybe it is. 00:04:01 Speaker 2: Maybe it's like one of those open secrets, like how actually they can't say that they're cash only, like they have to accept card. Oh, but everyone just says it anyway. 00:04:10 Speaker 3: It feels like in the same category of things. Yeah, I mean I wonder if I could just start saying that's against the law, just make up my own thing to throw back at them. 00:04:18 Speaker 2: Yeah. If that worked fifty percent of the time, great, still better than your current hit rate. 00:04:25 Speaker 4: Absolutely, you as well try it. 00:04:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, And also, like coming from the employees side, I feel like I would be like, yeah, I don't want you. The alternative could be you doing something to the store. 00:04:39 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:04:39 Speaker 3: I mean I'm not at that place yet, but there's a chance I could have just turned around and been like, well, I'm using the store. 00:04:46 Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know. 00:04:47 Speaker 2: They may have just assumed that you see him nice, but you see him nice, so you seem like you wouldn't. 00:04:54 Speaker 3: I'm trying to put out a different vibe. 00:04:56 Speaker 4: Yeah, to be worse, you're just generally. 00:04:58 Speaker 3: I want people to think I bad, okay, all right, and not in a good way. 00:05:02 Speaker 4: I'm going to tell people. 00:05:06 Speaker 3: The rumor that I'm bad, and when people ask. 00:05:08 Speaker 2: About like why, I'll just pick I don't know, just under all sort of bad. I have no follow up. And then I and then I like completely panic and I started talking about actually you're so great, and I'm like, I'm sorry, I was just joking, and it's like an insight thing between me and Bridger. Don't He's not bad. 00:05:23 Speaker 3: But that'll get more ears on the podcast because you'll be like, well, just listen to. 00:05:26 Speaker 2: The po listen to the podcast, and then you'll and then you'll be in on the joke. And that's all anyone wants this to be in on inside jokes of. 00:05:32 Speaker 3: Course, of course. Yeah. But Redlands otherwise was perfectly fine. I got in and got out, and we'll just have to find another way to the desert after after today. 00:05:45 Speaker 4: I don't know that there is another way. 00:05:47 Speaker 3: There's no other way. 00:05:49 Speaker 2: What is that the fifteen or the ten or I think it was the ten, Yeah, the ten. 00:05:53 Speaker 3: And it felt like they were like it felt like Google Maps was like, oh, there's traffic, let's go through this town to me, because I had never been. 00:05:59 Speaker 2: Through hmmm, so interesting. Interesting. I can't say. 00:06:05 Speaker 3: Where in the Inland Empire are you from. I grew up in Temecula, California. Yeah, oh, Temecula. I almost went to a wedding there this summer. 00:06:13 Speaker 2: That's what I always hear from people when I say Temecula because there's it's it's kind of just like a suburb, and then up the hill is the wineries and all the nice stuff. So a lot of people get married there. 00:06:24 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, Jim got food poisoning, so we couldn't go. But it was August and Temecula seems like a warm place to be in August. 00:06:33 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely. 00:06:35 Speaker 3: So yeah, maybe it was ultimately a blessing. 00:06:38 Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know that. 00:06:39 Speaker 2: I don't know where the wedding was going to be specifically, but I would never go. 00:06:43 Speaker 4: Damn, you didn't go to Temecula. That sucks. 00:06:48 Speaker 3: Do you get back to Temecula? 00:06:49 Speaker 5: No? 00:06:49 Speaker 2: My family doesn't live there anymore, so I'm never there. 00:06:52 Speaker 3: Oh you do you have family in Reno? 00:06:54 Speaker 4: I do? 00:06:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, look at me, stuff about me. 00:06:58 Speaker 3: So you get to Reno? 00:07:00 Speaker 2: I do? 00:07:00 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:07:01 Speaker 3: What's your take on Reno? I haven't been there in a long time, but I feel like it's got to be a night. I feel like it's underrated. 00:07:06 Speaker 2: It's absolutely that would be my stance on it, because my parents have lived out there for a few years now and I just feel like they love it. Every time I go. My mom is like always looking up new places to go. And my parents are fun, so like whenever I go visit them, they have like fun stuff to take me to go do. And it's just like a lot of the area around around it is very beautiful. 00:07:27 Speaker 3: Right, it's right next. I mean it's so close to like Lake Tahoe. 00:07:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then lots of other little lakes and pretty areas. And so where are your parents taking you and Reno? We've gone to the lake if it's the summer. Lots of little restaurants and I don't know, you'd have to ask my mom to pull up two fave spots. I just get in the car, I get in the super Uo and I say, take me where we're going. 00:07:53 Speaker 3: That's a good thing to say in a super room. Yeah, trust whoever's driving the Superwoo to take me to a good destination. 00:07:59 Speaker 2: It might be the Subaru commercial that I just recited. I'm not sure you're just remembering a super commercial. You have no family in Reno. That sounds like a Superuo commercial. Take me where we're going. 00:08:12 Speaker 3: That's a good slogan for them. They should consider it. Yeah, right to make SUPERU and SUPERU reach out. Do you ever go to the casinos. 00:08:22 Speaker 2: We've gone to. There are restaurants inside the casinos. There's like a diner in one of the casinos that we've gone to on like Christmas morning. 00:08:29 Speaker 4: What casino is this again? I'm not sure because. 00:08:33 Speaker 3: I was just talking to somebody about the pepper Mill casino. 00:08:36 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, that's one of them. 00:08:38 Speaker 3: He had eaten a ten egg omelet, and I'm not sure how that fits into a human body. 00:08:43 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess you're protein for the day. 00:08:45 Speaker 3: I mean for probably three weeks, right, I'm not sure, but apparently they're famous for using ten eggs to make an omelet, which feels like maybe too. 00:08:56 Speaker 2: Many eggs, bit of a waste of eggs. Yeah, pin omelet should be three three to four because you can't do two. That's not enough to contain the contents of the You need at least. 00:09:06 Speaker 3: Three and three even its probably too small. 00:09:10 Speaker 4: Four is safer. 00:09:11 Speaker 2: I would say, if you don't want to have a mess on your hands, you don't want to be criticized by peppers Whomever you're making an omelet for. Maybe it's for yourself, but even still, that's sad to have to look at your messy omelet you've created. 00:09:26 Speaker 3: I've never successfully made an omelet. It always ends up a scramble. 00:09:30 Speaker 2: I either it ends up a scramble or it's like too like overcooked on the outside. 00:09:35 Speaker 3: It's just really hard because then the I mean the opposite, you end up with the wet omelet. Yeah, And to successfully get the texture of an omelet, it seems nearly impossible. 00:09:45 Speaker 2: We never want to be thinking too much about when we're eating eggs. 00:09:49 Speaker 4: That they're eggs, is I. 00:09:50 Speaker 2: Think with the balance we want to strike, so they need to be soft, but we don't need to have you know, you see the sort of like clear parts in the clear. 00:09:59 Speaker 3: Part, I'm out that'll occasionally happen. And if you get them too like over easy or whatever. And it's why I always say over medium, I do well. I can't think about this, no, no, but over hard. When somebody gets an overheard, it's a psychopath. That's that's the worst thing every world. 00:10:18 Speaker 2: That person's being a baby about yolk, yeah, is my opinion. 00:10:21 Speaker 3: Because they're kind of getting an almost hard boiled egg at that point. That's so true, just a dry, disgusting I hope no one's eating eggs right now, just a mouthful of eggs. 00:10:32 Speaker 2: I always listened to I said no gifts over breakfast, and I'm feeling criticized. 00:10:39 Speaker 3: Someone eating four over hard eggs. Their mouth's just bone dry. 00:10:44 Speaker 2: You know, it's fine, whatever your egg preference, but it's not well. 00:10:48 Speaker 3: I think it's more important than a sandwich. When you're having a breakfast sandwich, if you have an over easy egg, forget it. Oh no, the egg is no longer even part of the sand. 00:10:56 Speaker 4: Very delicate situation. 00:10:58 Speaker 3: Over medium is even a little tricky. 00:11:00 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna make a mess. 00:11:01 Speaker 3: That's why I almost prefer a scrambled egg and a sand. 00:11:03 Speaker 4: In a sandwich unless it's well. 00:11:05 Speaker 2: And when we're talking about an overheard I guess if it's like a McDonald's breakfast sandwich, now. 00:11:10 Speaker 3: That is overheard egg. 00:11:13 Speaker 4: It's yeah, I would say. 00:11:14 Speaker 3: So, Or is that a McDonald's egg. 00:11:15 Speaker 2: It's a McDonald's egg. And if we're categorizing it, I guess I would say overheard. Okay, there's a cat over here. Sorry, I'm just making direct. 00:11:26 Speaker 3: There's this beautiful black and white cat that is just watching the podcast right now. I wish it would come visit I if only I had a little chicken to entice it. It was over here earlier in accidental they scared it away, but now it's back, truly just prying. It comes around. There are two cats that come around, and I love both of them so much. This is the one I see less often. And it's so it's like a tuxedo cat. Yeah, a tuxedo cat just sitting on the roof over there. It's really piercing eyes screen. At least you have any opportunity to take a photo of this thing. We'll share this on Intra impossible unless it runs away because it is very shy. Page is taking This cat is now the third guest on the podcast. It's so kill you. 00:12:10 Speaker 4: Oh I got a really good Yeah, let's get see. 00:12:14 Speaker 3: This is kind of the ideal version of a cat for me. 00:12:17 Speaker 4: Where come on? 00:12:20 Speaker 2: We're having. 00:12:22 Speaker 3: It's framed so beautifully. Page has really taken a frame worthy photo of this Cat's gone. 00:12:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm kind of a good photographer. 00:12:30 Speaker 3: Whatever the cat has left, but it did provide a little conversation and a photo. 00:12:37 Speaker 2: I just felt like I had to address it. Otherwise you'd go, why is Page not looking at me? 00:12:43 Speaker 3: Furious? If there had been a cat there and you just decided not to tell me. 00:12:46 Speaker 2: I'm glad that I'm okay, cool. I feel really good about what happened. 00:12:49 Speaker 3: A secret to keep. 00:12:50 Speaker 4: I would never keep a secret from you, Riture. 00:12:52 Speaker 3: You tell me everything. That's why I know about Reno. 00:12:58 Speaker 2: I don't tell anyone about that. 00:13:00 Speaker 3: This is uh my theory is the cats come around a lot more often when I go to Costco because I buy the Costco rotisserie chicken and I throw the you know, the leftover into the trash, and I think they're like circling the area, and I feel bad because they're not. They're never going to get it. 00:13:16 Speaker 4: Yeah, and yet and you also don't want to just leave it. 00:13:18 Speaker 3: Out, No, because of the raccoons. 00:13:20 Speaker 4: Because they won't be the first to come. 00:13:22 Speaker 3: Yes, the raccoons will absolutely be here first. And then who wins the raccoon the raccoons. The raccoons always win. 00:13:31 Speaker 4: They do kind of always win. 00:13:32 Speaker 3: They're the most powerful part of the community. 00:13:35 Speaker 4: They're so complicated because they're so cute. 00:13:37 Speaker 3: No, they're just a I mean, everybody has this problem with a raccoon. 00:13:41 Speaker 2: It's just they should be less cute. If they're if we're supposed to stay away from them, yes. 00:13:47 Speaker 3: I think we may have talked about this on this podcast before, but I think if we get just swapped their personality with a possum, the possum should be as dangerous as vicious as a raccoon. A raccoon when it sees you should just follow over and act like it's dead and mm hm, you can just harmless. 00:14:02 Speaker 4: Because possums are cute except for their tail. 00:14:04 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm unfortunately, I'm not on board an element of a possum. 00:14:08 Speaker 2: Do you know about possums that they only live for two years? 00:14:11 Speaker 3: Oh weird? It's like a bug. 00:14:14 Speaker 4: Isn't that crazy? I think? 00:14:16 Speaker 2: And it's And I think it's because for the most part, it's because they're so stupid, so they like get hit by cars and. 00:14:23 Speaker 3: Like just average. 00:14:25 Speaker 2: Yeah. I believe if they were like in captivity and like taken care of, they can live much longer. 00:14:30 Speaker 4: But average they live like two years. 00:14:32 Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing about possums is every one of them looks like they have been alive since Earth began. So the fact that they're only around for two years and they just look ancient and. 00:14:41 Speaker 2: Evil, they definitely feel like time travelers. 00:14:44 Speaker 3: For sure. 00:14:45 Speaker 4: They shouldn't be here. 00:14:46 Speaker 3: Out of some portal. Yeah, absolutely terrifying creatures. 00:14:52 Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm down with that personality switch. That sounds good to me. I do a Freaky Friday for species completely. 00:15:00 Speaker 3: And people do train raccoons to live in their homes. 00:15:03 Speaker 2: But that for it's not okay, Nope, you're asking to be attacked. 00:15:08 Speaker 3: You're asking for a Travis the chimp situation. 00:15:10 Speaker 2: You're asking exactly like it is. So I feel like sometimes too, you'll see like, oh, you know, it's always somebody has like an account where they're oh, my pet raccoon, and then they always have other pets too. 00:15:23 Speaker 3: Of course, those poor pets living or. 00:15:26 Speaker 2: There, or they think they're safe. I mean, obviously we don't hear about when it goes wrong. I'm sure they just like delete their account and like never never tell us. 00:15:36 Speaker 3: That the raccoon takes over the account. 00:15:38 Speaker 2: The raccoon takes well everything, fine, they could type I think, oh wow. 00:15:42 Speaker 3: Now that would be worth training a raccoon for. 00:15:44 Speaker 2: That would be funny. So ultimately sort of a moral gray area. 00:15:50 Speaker 3: But we like it to see a raccoon writing a letter on a keyboard or it's a novel or what have you. That's very cute. 00:15:57 Speaker 4: That would be cute. 00:16:03 Speaker 3: I don't know if this is just like because the way the algorithm works, and it's just happened to feed me these exact people. But it feels like most owners of raccoons and like things you find in the forest seem to be in Eastern Europe or like Russia. 00:16:17 Speaker 2: I guess that's I haven't had that experience, maybe because also I think I've taught my algorithm. 00:16:24 Speaker 4: I don't want to see that. 00:16:26 Speaker 2: I find it upset, but I appreciate that you shared with me something from your algorithm. 00:16:34 Speaker 3: Algorithm does not know who I think. It's very confused as to who I am and what I. 00:16:39 Speaker 2: Want on TikTok or Instagram everything. 00:16:42 Speaker 3: The only thing the algorithm has figured out and it's not working. It's figured out that I'm a gay man. And I think it's like these people want shorts, and so I'm seeing a lot of ads for shorts that are like nine hundred dollars. Well, you're not gonna get me. 00:16:56 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, when you start getting I feel like whenever I'm looking for a particularler clothing item, like I was looking for like a nice dress for a wedding earlier this year and I'd start getting ads and all the and then I click on the ad thinking, oh, you know what ultimately cool, I am looking for this, and then you click and it's like a thousands of dollars. 00:17:13 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's more expensive than you could have imagined. 00:17:16 Speaker 2: Who is if I'm if I have thousands of dollars to spend on address, I feel like I'm not going to buy it from an Instagram suggested ad? 00:17:27 Speaker 3: Right, you know what I mean? 00:17:28 Speaker 4: Right, Like I'm going to be more purposeful. 00:17:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course you have the power to make get exactly what you want. 00:17:33 Speaker 4: Someone can find it for me. 00:17:34 Speaker 3: Right. 00:17:35 Speaker 2: Maybe it's the assistance of the world who are opening their their three thousand dollars address ads. 00:17:41 Speaker 3: And algorithm what their boss wants. Whoa cracking something very big out right now. 00:17:52 Speaker 2: The original algorithm and no one talks about. 00:17:55 Speaker 3: It, completely dehumanizing assistance. That's exactly what assistants want, as if their bosses don't already do that. Yeah, I think. Yeah. Occasionally I'll see a friend I hate when I fall into the trap of like I like that shirt and they're like, oh yeah, I saw it on Instagram, and then I feel like, well, it's not that interesting anymore. Yeah, I should tell me. 00:18:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't tell anyone when you like anything they're wearing any compliments, no compliments, no thing. 00:18:21 Speaker 3: So what I'm saying is they shouldn't tell me. Just make up a lie, say I found it under my bed. 00:18:26 Speaker 4: I yeah, this, I forgot. 00:18:31 Speaker 3: This actually just fell on my body. 00:18:33 Speaker 4: I was born wearing gum. 00:18:36 Speaker 3: An ancestor gave it to me. This kind of thing. I would never if I had bought something off Instagram. There's no way I would tell somebody else unless it was like a kitchen gadget. Yeah. 00:18:45 Speaker 2: I actually I'm not sure if I've ever bought something off of Instagram. I did buy something off of TikTok shop once. 00:18:50 Speaker 3: A lot of people are buying TikTok shop, but. 00:18:51 Speaker 4: I regretted it. Oh was it what I wanted? 00:18:54 Speaker 2: So I wanted I have. I wanted like a portable battery for my phone, and I have a phone case that has a battery on it. But I saw this ad. It was like, it's like magnetic. But I came to discover that it's only magnetic to the back of your phone. If you don't have a phone case. Oh on it. Well, that's worthless. I was furious and I never bought off TikTok shop again. 00:19:18 Speaker 3: What I've never purchased off TikTok shop. Is it all coming from the same place? Is it? Like I don't understand because it feels like anybody can put up an item and then it's for sale. Is that true? 00:19:29 Speaker 2: I think it's probably I'm completely guessing here, but I think it's sort of like how sellers can be on Amazon, Like you can put your item there and then you can like reach out to creators and have them post. 00:19:40 Speaker 6: Right about just have to add that there is somebody on TikTok right now selling jars of. 00:19:44 Speaker 3: Air hair air air oh air. 00:19:47 Speaker 6: Yeah, idea funny and it's funny, it's really So It's like I think it can truly be anyone just putting something up, and if it's a gag, people. 00:19:56 Speaker 3: Are still into it. Yeah, people just want to throw their money. 00:19:59 Speaker 2: Also sells something else that they make, right, like some sort of knitted item. But the videos are funny where like people will ask, like, you know, obviously in the comments, what do you mean they'll do like a apply video being like, you know, I'm glad they're fully doing a bit right, or they're. 00:20:15 Speaker 3: Like scooping air a bit that is also a scam. 00:20:18 Speaker 2: Really good, but it's like it's such a scam, that is it a beautiful jar? 00:20:23 Speaker 4: No, well, sometimes I do think, yeah. 00:20:26 Speaker 3: Okay, let's see we're watching the video here. 00:20:29 Speaker 2: Great, and like it's not a scam because everyone knows it's silly, right, you know. So it's like and then I do think it is driving to something else that the person sells. 00:20:40 Speaker 4: Maybe it's cheese. I'm not sure. 00:20:42 Speaker 3: It's probably equally worthless in another way. Yeah, wow, well maybe I need to start selling something on TikTok following the bar is so low for products, people really don't expect them to work. I think when you buy something on TikTok shop, you're probably like, there's like a ten percent chance this actually fulfills. 00:20:59 Speaker 2: Completely blame myself for what happened with my purchase. It was I fell into the trap, right, that makes sense. Yeah, I wasn't like I've been wronged by TikTok shop. It's like, this is obviously my fault. 00:21:13 Speaker 3: I recently tried to send somebody. So this is a long story. But on the Real house Wives of sal La City, one of the housewives is being accused of her jewelry line coming from Ali Baba. So I sent somebody. I thought it would be fun to send somebody all of the items I found of hers on that I found on Ali Express. I had never bought anything off of Ali Express. 00:21:35 Speaker 4: I never have. 00:21:37 Speaker 3: I mean, the problems I've caused for myself and this other person, it's it's gonna last years. I get four emails a day updating me on the fact that they're not even shipped yet. And everyone I thought they were all at least coming from the same ish place. No, every one of these items is coming from a different place right and may never even get there. And I imagine one of these things is going to show up to his house probably nine months. 00:22:03 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so I guys even be friends by that because. 00:22:06 Speaker 3: Of what I've done, I feel like I've really given him a job. I thought, Oh, what a funny bit, and ultimately I should have just bought I guess that's what this housewife is doing the services. She's at least collecting the items at her business to send. 00:22:22 Speaker 4: Back out, or she's not having them sent directly. 00:22:26 Speaker 3: Oh maybe she's drop shipping. 00:22:28 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, it's the scam. 00:22:30 Speaker 3: You're right, Rose scam, right, Yeah, because she can't. 00:22:34 Speaker 2: Be waiting nine months for these items. 00:22:37 Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't put it past unless. 00:22:38 Speaker 2: She decided this is my business plan, ordered everything and waited for them all to arrive and said, now I start my business. 00:22:49 Speaker 3: You never know, you. 00:22:50 Speaker 2: Buy nine months worth of the product and then place your next order. 00:22:55 Speaker 3: I mean that's what I would have done. Yeah, So I guess that's why I don't. I'm not in thejewelry business. 00:23:00 Speaker 4: And that's the only reason. 00:23:02 Speaker 3: It's the sole reason keeping me from the jewelry RD. 00:23:05 Speaker 2: See you being a jeweler, you can make jewelry. I bet you're creative. You can make something beautiful if given the tools. 00:23:14 Speaker 3: No way. I was in ceramics in high school. It was a disaster. 00:23:18 Speaker 4: I wanted to be in ceramics in high school. It filled up. Oh a hot account, your blessings. 00:23:24 Speaker 3: It's a hot class in high school. Everybody wants to be in there. Everybody wants to be in there. Yeah, and not everybody's cut out for the ceramics course. I was one of those. 00:23:33 Speaker 4: You weren't. 00:23:33 Speaker 3: You found that out, but you want to find out in high school? Yeah, Otherwise I could have gone to college for ceramics and found out hundreds of thousands of dollars later. 00:23:41 Speaker 4: That's so true. 00:23:42 Speaker 3: I can't throw a pot. 00:23:44 Speaker 4: It does seem it is. 00:23:45 Speaker 2: It is also more vulnerable to take a ceramics class as an adult, it does, right, Like if you it hurts more to be bad at something the older you get. 00:23:54 Speaker 4: I think. I think. 00:23:58 Speaker 2: The older you are and you try a new thing, the more vulnerable it is, and so you find out that you're bad at it. 00:24:05 Speaker 4: Personally, I would give up right. 00:24:06 Speaker 3: Away, of course, that's my entire remo. 00:24:09 Speaker 4: Yeah, and maybe I would try again in years. 00:24:11 Speaker 3: After everyone had forgotten that. 00:24:12 Speaker 2: After everyone who's like three people that knew I tried, they're dead, they've died. I only tell people who are much older than me about my new adventures in life to be safe. 00:24:24 Speaker 3: It is a little tricky too as an adult to be like, oh, I'm going to be creative. It's tough people because all of your friends are like, oh, they think they're creative, so cute, and now we have to kind of support them, and we all know that we're only being nice. So that's a tough spot to be from a starting place as an adult. That's why you got to start ceramics early. 00:24:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, for me, you'll never ceramics. 00:24:49 Speaker 3: Don't even think about it. 00:24:50 Speaker 4: I'll never do it. 00:24:51 Speaker 3: Well, look, there's something else that we've got to talk about. Unfortunately, I've been having a very nice time up until now, but I've been dancing around something with you. I was so excited to have you here today on the podcast. I thought, I haven't seen page in a while. We'll catch up, we'll share secrets, et cetera. No no hurt feelings, no bad vibes. The podcast is called I said no gifts, and so I was a little surprised because I do know. Emails have been sent, texts have been sent, the name of the podcast has certainly come up. Yeah, and then you come trotting into my backyard holding what couldn't more clearly be a gift. This is a gift for me. 00:25:37 Speaker 2: You know, I would say yes and no. I would say that things were about to get complicated a little bit. I'm obviously aware of the podcast. I'm a fan, I'm a listener. 00:25:49 Speaker 3: Well, there were gonna quiz later. I'm going to really drill in and see if you're I wish you would, but if I started asking specific questions to find out if you actually I hit me. Not not in a million years. 00:26:03 Speaker 4: You don't even remember what you've said. 00:26:05 Speaker 3: I certainly don't. I mean I would be the one that failed that. 00:26:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, personally, every time I've ever done a podcast, it's my brain has emptied of everything I've said completely. 00:26:14 Speaker 3: It's coming from another person. I think. Yeah, it's like another one spirit that takes over my body. 00:26:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would say you should you should open this, okay, and then you know, we can talk about whether it's a gift or not. 00:26:29 Speaker 3: All right, So it's in that we talked about this before the podcast. Beautiful wrapping paper, some gorgeous flowers and polka dots and the cutest little bow. 00:26:39 Speaker 4: You gotta put a bow. 00:26:41 Speaker 3: I love this style of bow where it's like a back of a dinosaur, the spiky. 00:26:46 Speaker 2: It's giving Sarah from Lamb before Times Sarah completely Yeah, yeah, uh huh. I think the wrapping paper is from World Market. 00:26:56 Speaker 3: World Market. I want to say, I love World Market. 00:26:58 Speaker 4: They have stuff like this. That's what I love about that. 00:27:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, they kind of got everything. I buy my Coco there. 00:27:03 Speaker 4: I had no idea they've. 00:27:04 Speaker 3: Got their little secret grocery store in the back. 00:27:08 Speaker 1: I do. 00:27:08 Speaker 3: I used to have a boss that would always call it cost plus World Market and it made me want. 00:27:12 Speaker 4: To kill her. 00:27:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's too many words. Just say world market. 00:27:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're being too formal and you're showing off that you know the full name. 00:27:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, no one else knew the name. I would be confused. I'd be like, is there another World Market. 00:27:24 Speaker 2: It's like when people do you ever encounter those people know a celebrity with a stage name, they know their real name, and then they feel like I would to see Saint Vincent and people were like shouting out Annie her mouth. 00:27:37 Speaker 3: She doesn't want to hear that. 00:27:39 Speaker 2: We don't think you're cool or know her because you know that. And that's the same as calling it cost plus World Market. 00:27:47 Speaker 3: You're name dropping, and cost Plus World Market is kind of the Saint Vincent of retailers. I would say, Okay, well, let's dive in here. I would say it's about the same side as a vinyl record, maybe slightly smaller, but I'm bad with shapes and sizes. 00:28:06 Speaker 2: I'm bad with shapes and sizes. O God, this is yours, this is my vinyl. 00:28:15 Speaker 3: And I didn't know you had vinyl. 00:28:17 Speaker 2: What you'll notice is I signed it on the back. 00:28:21 Speaker 3: This is Bridger. That'll be fifteen dollars love page going to get from me. 00:28:27 Speaker 4: If you pay me for it, it won't be a gift. 00:28:29 Speaker 3: That's why it's complicated. 00:28:31 Speaker 4: So it's a little bit complicated. Please don't pay me for it. 00:28:33 Speaker 3: But going into question my integrity as a host. 00:28:36 Speaker 4: How committed are you to not receiving again? 00:28:38 Speaker 3: Little? Did you know? I have zero integrity and that makes you bad? Yeah? Yeah, that's a detail. 00:28:46 Speaker 2: You when someone says, why is bridge are bad? No integrity? He doesn't follow up on his promises and has such supposed beliefs about whether someone should bring him a gift or not. 00:29:01 Speaker 3: I heard a rumor Bridger has no integrity. Okay, well you brought this is your new This. 00:29:07 Speaker 2: Is my stand up album called I Turned Out Fine. 00:29:10 Speaker 3: And it's got this fantastic picture of you on the front eating spaghetti. 00:29:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a recreation of a childhood photo which is on the back where I'm eating spaghetti covered in margarine. 00:29:21 Speaker 3: Oh margarine, interesting choice. 00:29:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was what we called butter in my house, but it was margarine. 00:29:27 Speaker 3: That big tub, oh my god, that tub is as big as a can of paint. 00:29:31 Speaker 2: It was a mainstay. That is accurate. It's about size of faith. And so I recreated the photo margin. 00:29:40 Speaker 4: Well, so a fun fact. 00:29:41 Speaker 2: So Catherine Leone and Kelli Bigger Stuff, who did the photo with me, they also made props for it. So they made that margarine. 00:29:49 Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, it's beautiful. Yeah. 00:29:51 Speaker 2: They bought I think it was a sour cream tub and they spray painted a yellow and made the label because that is no longer right. 00:29:57 Speaker 3: There's no way that yeah still exists. What about the squirt that's a that's just a current. Yeah, it's a modern square. Yeah, they can of squirre. 00:30:05 Speaker 2: We thought that the logo hadn't changed enough that we needed to make that extra effort. 00:30:10 Speaker 3: I mean, I would argue it's a completely different can. 00:30:15 Speaker 2: You should have been on the creative team. Yes, I wish, I really wish. 00:30:20 Speaker 3: That's why I'm on so many creative teams. Yeah, pulling out these details for people, I've got that artistic eye. 00:30:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, and yet you think you couldn't make jewelry my. 00:30:29 Speaker 3: Goodness, Well tell me why you brought this today? 00:30:33 Speaker 2: Well, I just wanted you to have it. It's something I'm proud. 00:30:36 Speaker 3: Of and it's pretty recent, right, Yeah. 00:30:39 Speaker 2: I released it in September end of September with a special Thing Records. And it's cool that the vinyl is also green, which is it's like it's like recycled vinyl. 00:30:50 Speaker 4: They use like scraps of a certain color. 00:30:53 Speaker 3: It's like emeralds. 00:30:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, it might be hard to pull out of this. Sometimes the static causes an. 00:30:57 Speaker 3: Issue, but it's like a green and bowling ball. 00:30:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's they're all unique because they're like blended up. 00:31:02 Speaker 3: Oh that's so beautiful. Yeah. Why aren't they doing every record like this? 00:31:06 Speaker 4: I honestly don't know. 00:31:07 Speaker 2: When I was told I could choose that, I was like, why wouldn't you choose that? 00:31:11 Speaker 3: Right? And that's why you have integrity, Bridger. 00:31:14 Speaker 4: I have to be honest. 00:31:15 Speaker 2: I'm a little bit nervous right now because I have to tell you something. What I actually got you two gifts. What I knew I was going to bring you this. No matter what, this doesn't feel like a gift to me. 00:31:27 Speaker 4: This is a promotional emotional tool. 00:31:33 Speaker 2: But I also I think when I mentioned to you that I would love to do the podcast, I said that I'm a really good gift giver. 00:31:40 Speaker 3: Yes, that's the only reason I allowed you on. 00:31:43 Speaker 2: And yeah, I felt the need to pitch myself. I felt like I should say that, trust you, I'm a really good gift giver. 00:31:50 Speaker 4: It's a problem. 00:31:51 Speaker 2: I feel almost guilty sometimes when I give people gifts because they're too good and nobody can ever match me. Right, But I, as I said, I'm a list of the podcast. When I was listening recently, you were talking about ASMR. 00:32:05 Speaker 3: Oh. Yeah, sure, And. 00:32:07 Speaker 2: I know you said you forget everything you say, but maybe you'll remember this. You were talking about a specific type of ASMR video. 00:32:13 Speaker 3: Oh, yes, but you MMR video. 00:32:17 Speaker 4: Yeah, do you remember what it was? 00:32:18 Speaker 3: Yes, it's somebody like at a national park or a museum with a little map telling you how it works. You know, like they're like telling you where to go or whatever, and they're marking the map. 00:32:30 Speaker 4: Yeah with what with a highlighter? Yeah, with a highlighter. 00:32:33 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:32:33 Speaker 3: I wasn't gonna say that because I was like, maybe that's too many details, but that is one part of it. 00:32:37 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:32:38 Speaker 2: I think you also said specifically someone telling you to go to how to get to Old Faithful. 00:32:47 Speaker 3: Wow, you remember a lot of flings. 00:32:49 Speaker 4: So I went onto cameo. 00:32:54 Speaker 2: What and I found an ASMR creator and her Name'satasha. 00:33:00 Speaker 4: Here she is. This is unbelievable as. 00:33:04 Speaker 3: This, So I in trouble. Let's just say trouble. 00:33:13 Speaker 2: And it's ten minutes long, so we do not have to listen to the whole thing. I wish we wouldn't, but I think we should. Let's listen to the first bit and then I have some some time codes. I'd like us to sort of jump. 00:33:25 Speaker 3: I'm so excited about this. 00:33:26 Speaker 2: And I obviously told her your name is Bridger, and I said all the things that we okay, great, just sadden. She's typing, Oh. 00:33:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm approaching. Excuse me, excuse me? 00:33:43 Speaker 5: How can I help you? 00:33:44 Speaker 3: I'm looking for old faithful. 00:33:46 Speaker 5: Are you doing the bark so far? 00:33:49 Speaker 3: I could use a little. I could see some directions. I'm Bridger, Yes. 00:33:58 Speaker 5: I am, I'm a barker. I can help me with whatever you mean? 00:34:06 Speaker 4: Can we pause? She's kind of created this character where she's new. 00:34:17 Speaker 2: And she doesn't know if she can't answer your questions, like she can look it up in the database. She kind of gets into some of that okay, which I love, and she does like start. What I will say is I did ask for her to use a highlighter. I don't want you to be disappointed. She definitely uses a green sharpie. 00:34:32 Speaker 3: Oh but that same texture, But it does. 00:34:34 Speaker 2: There are some nice moments of the sound. 00:34:36 Speaker 3: If it was a pencil or a pen, it would be ruined. 00:34:38 Speaker 4: I said, not pen in my request. 00:34:42 Speaker 3: My dream would have been shattered. 00:34:44 Speaker 2: Well, it's and I after listening to the episode, I saw that what you were talking about, there are a lot of people out there with pens, and it doesn't and it's not the same. 00:34:53 Speaker 3: The same thing. 00:34:54 Speaker 2: If you could skip to like threeish minutes in it's she likes starts telling you about like places you could stop along the way, which I think is really nice. She also does, like multiple times throughout repeat that she's a park ranger. 00:35:09 Speaker 4: She really got into it, Yeah, she like. Honestly, I'm I'm very pleased. 00:35:14 Speaker 5: There's the Mammoth thought hot Springs. But you'd have to go a little bit out of your way to get there. I mean it's worth it, Okay, yeah, it would be. It would be quite Did you bring like a list with the things that you're gonna need for the trip? Are you planning on camping at all? 00:35:39 Speaker 3: A little bit, okay, so it's just write. 00:35:41 Speaker 5: Down the things you definitely don't want to miss. 00:35:45 Speaker 2: A fantastic she does start like asking later she's concerned about your safety. Yeah, she printed out. I guess we haven't seen yet. She does have a printed out map. 00:35:54 Speaker 3: This is such dedication. 00:35:55 Speaker 4: I am so impressed. 00:35:57 Speaker 3: Do we know how we advertise her? 00:35:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Natasha, a SMR on cameo. I'm very pleased with her word. I didn't choose for her to also be a redhead, but I. 00:36:08 Speaker 4: Thought it was kind of nice. 00:36:15 Speaker 3: This is a dream for me. 00:36:17 Speaker 2: I just want to see her pull the map up. I want you to see the map she printed. She has it on a little. 00:36:26 Speaker 3: High A love for this sort of Yeah, it's not out there, it's simply not. 00:36:33 Speaker 2: Oh that might be a real highlighter. 00:36:39 Speaker 3: Yeah, that looks like a highlight. 00:36:41 Speaker 4: She had a green pan earlier. 00:36:42 Speaker 3: Well, she's you know, she's a professional. She has several tools. Oh my gosh, my brain is melting. Now I don't have to go to museums anymore. Well, and I choose that sound is incredible. 00:37:00 Speaker 2: She said museum or park And later on when she's talking about places you could stop. She does mention the museum's detailed, but. 00:37:13 Speaker 5: Your road that you're following starts at the yellow circle of theirs, so keep that in mind. 00:37:18 Speaker 4: I'm going to just. 00:37:20 Speaker 5: Highlight in red some areas that are just not good at the moment. 00:37:26 Speaker 2: She talks about places where like things are closed at this time of year. If you go to a detail. Yeah, there's like eight fish minutes. There's like another time where she says Bridger when I found that. Oh, I won't say what she says, but the sort of signing off with you in this moment and like giving you like a phone number to call if you have any issues, and remember my name is Natasha. 00:37:52 Speaker 3: Hands me a walkie talkie. 00:37:53 Speaker 5: Yeah okay, ah, you definitely I want to make sure you have stuff like that. I'm making sure everything on your list is circled here for you quickly. Right, I'm just gonna write your name down on the map. 00:38:12 Speaker 3: Thank You's been a lot of map theft. 00:38:19 Speaker 4: No one can say they didn't know it was your map. 00:38:22 Speaker 5: Okay, there go for Richard perfect. 00:38:28 Speaker 2: I feel like you can hear her making the shapes of the are Oh yeah, of course it's really nice. 00:38:35 Speaker 5: All right? Do you think you have adequate amount of food? 00:38:38 Speaker 3: Oh? You have really taken care of me. Oh yes, yes, I've got the food in the water. 00:38:43 Speaker 5: I mean, if you're doing the trip, you're probably prepared, but you would be surprised how many people are just not. 00:38:49 Speaker 3: So we want to be sure. 00:38:50 Speaker 5: I'm going to write you down a phone number year that you can call if you need any help. 00:38:55 Speaker 4: Oh great, Like has she been a park ranger? 00:38:58 Speaker 3: This is method mh. 00:39:00 Speaker 4: I mean this is kind of the end. 00:39:03 Speaker 3: She's just kind of taken care of you. 00:39:04 Speaker 5: Know. 00:39:04 Speaker 2: You can when you're trying to fall asleep at night sending me off into the park, you can listen to Natashasha just in. 00:39:11 Speaker 5: Case you forgot or you forget personally, I'm horrible with names, so I would not be invented. 00:39:18 Speaker 3: I'll me too, but you won't. 00:39:20 Speaker 5: Anyways, I wrote it down, so here is your mam for you. 00:39:25 Speaker 4: Everything look nice, This is good, I'm. 00:39:28 Speaker 5: All right perfect. I'm just gonna give it a little fault. 00:39:34 Speaker 3: Oh so good. 00:39:39 Speaker 5: And if it does, it's not on the actual man, right, but I'm sure it will. But everything you're. 00:39:43 Speaker 3: Doing, Natasha, you've really taken care of me. And I appreciate it. 00:39:52 Speaker 4: I like that you're interacting with her. Thank you so. 00:39:55 Speaker 5: Much for coming in. I hope you have an amazing time. 00:39:57 Speaker 3: No, thank you, We're gonna love it. We'll see you around Natasha. Wow, that is an unbelievable gift. I'm going to sleep for forty hours after listening to that, Like, I'm so happy. All anxiety has washed away from me. 00:40:17 Speaker 2: I'm so glad and that's all I wanted to gift to you. I hope you can forgive me for bringing forgift. 00:40:24 Speaker 4: This is spectacular. 00:40:26 Speaker 3: What like in communicating with her, like, how many exchanges were there? Did she have questions? 00:40:32 Speaker 2: No? I just wrote to her the allotted amount of characters on cameo wow, and she delivered wow. 00:40:39 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:40:40 Speaker 3: How many characters do they give you? 00:40:42 Speaker 4: Like two hundred and fifty or so? 00:40:44 Speaker 3: Not a lot. 00:40:44 Speaker 2: I know you and I can be long winded, so I had to edit myself and I felt the need I almost I noticed in writing it. Initially I had a desire to be like and that that doesn't make sense. Let me know and thank you so much. I was like, you actually are on a space for that. That's for later, I guess I'll tell her thank you, but she did a great job. I was really I had a few ideas. I did text you asking if you had any food allergies because of a different idea that I changed my mind about. 00:41:12 Speaker 3: So so when did you produce this video? 00:41:15 Speaker 4: I got it this morning? 00:41:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, because you texted me I think yesterday. 00:41:19 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:41:20 Speaker 2: To be honest, I I panicked because I was going to bring you cookies and then I saw the zach nooy Towers just brought you cookies. I was like, I can't do that, but like, ultimately I think it's for the best because. 00:41:33 Speaker 3: This wash cookies. I mean, I hate to gift, but you can make yourself a cookie. Yeah, I can ask myself a cookie as and now this I've got to like burn this stuff like physical media. I need this forever. Yeah, you need to put this on vinyl. 00:41:48 Speaker 4: Oh I'm going to release. 00:41:50 Speaker 3: This as a vinyl and then get sued by Natasha. 00:41:55 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we all asked Natasha what your rights are as the recipient of this cameo. 00:42:00 Speaker 3: Wow, it's really that's I mean, you've gone above and beyond. I just can't believe have you ever done another cameo before? 00:42:08 Speaker 2: I did one? Other cameo with a group of friends. We we tried to get the guy from say anything to. 00:42:18 Speaker 3: John Cusack and oh, it's like, what she has a. 00:42:26 Speaker 2: Cameo and he basically the cameo cameo. We're waiting for our refund because we cannot hear a word. It's like, like, I don't know if he had his hand on the microphone. 00:42:35 Speaker 3: Professional musician, wasn't a lot, I wasn't able to record audio. Oh he's a tough It. 00:42:41 Speaker 2: Was weird, it was, but it was like it was kind of funny because it was bad, but it was also bad. And I'm it was like not crazy expensive, and we split it between a bunch of friends as like a birthday gift. But I guess it's possible. My friend who ordered it got a refund and hasn't told us, but I'm pretty. 00:42:57 Speaker 4: Sure she would. 00:42:58 Speaker 3: It was her money making sin. 00:43:00 Speaker 2: She did this knowing all along she would get a few bucks from each of us. 00:43:05 Speaker 3: She was looking to steal ten dollars from all of her friends. 00:43:07 Speaker 2: I think so. But yeah, I've never done another cameo other. 00:43:09 Speaker 3: Than okay, yes, the only I've never done one. Jim has done one. He got one for his mom from a soap opera star that she's had a crush on for like forty years. 00:43:21 Speaker 4: Did she love it? 00:43:22 Speaker 3: She went crazy? Oh my god, his name's like he has some nickname like Sweaty Muscles or something something. 00:43:29 Speaker 2: Like that could be very muscular. 00:43:31 Speaker 3: I mean, he's probably in his seventies at this point. He's trying to keep it together. Okay, I assume at some point he was kind of a hot shot soap opera guy. 00:43:39 Speaker 4: I do find cameo sort of tragic. 00:43:42 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I think it's the perfect, perfect, like to give a cameo to someone who's older, who like doesn't totally get what cameo is and means. 00:43:49 Speaker 3: Right, doesn't understand like that. 00:43:51 Speaker 2: It doesn't understand that it means that your favorite person is like in dire straits. 00:43:57 Speaker 3: That's the new slogan. Your favorite person is in dire straits. Cameo. 00:44:02 Speaker 2: A person needs some more passive income relative relatively passive income. 00:44:09 Speaker 3: That's so true though. Yeah, they're like, oh, I guess that this I'm just special and this must have cost thousands of dollars and just let the person assume. 00:44:17 Speaker 2: That, Yeah, one of the top gifts that I think you don't want to tell how much it costs if it's like a celebrity gift, because like obviously for creators like Natasha like it totally is just part of the business as opposed to the celebrities who are on there. 00:44:31 Speaker 3: It's a little bit like right at one point, they were potentially making millions of dollars. 00:44:37 Speaker 2: It's like how I feel when I see Mandy Moore in those TJ Max ads. 00:44:41 Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't know Mandy was doing TJ's. 00:44:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's like, obviously, I hope she's a lot of money from This is Us because it was a network show. 00:44:53 Speaker 3: There's never enough money. Once you get a taste of the This is Us money, you want more money. 00:44:58 Speaker 2: My hope is that she's not doing that because she needs to and more like they came to her with that, she was like, I guess, yeah, Well, while she's collecting her residuals from This is. 00:45:07 Speaker 3: Us, she probably is. I imagine TJ's is paying her all kinds of money. 00:45:12 Speaker 4: I'm sure. 00:45:13 Speaker 3: I mean, is she currently employed outside. 00:45:16 Speaker 2: Of I guess, I don't know what she's Well, she is doing a podcast called That was Us. 00:45:22 Speaker 3: That Oh okay, Well, that was sure. 00:45:25 Speaker 4: Now this is Us. 00:45:25 Speaker 3: That was us, And now that sounds kind of accusatory. 00:45:29 Speaker 4: Um, yeah, she's saying that is not me anymore. 00:45:33 Speaker 3: I've got to be very clear. 00:45:34 Speaker 2: I am not a Pierson anymore. I am a fan of This Is Us. I really like that show. 00:45:39 Speaker 3: I've only the only episode I've seen is ten minutes of the last one. Somebody could do she was on a train or something. Yeah, spoiler she gets on a train. If that's a big part of the series, I'm sorry. 00:45:51 Speaker 2: It's it's very funny because that scene is like very beautiful and emotional, But it's funny if you don't know the context. 00:46:01 Speaker 3: And listener, if you don't want this thing spoiled for you, well, actually keep listening. I don't care. Is the train going to heaven or something? 00:46:10 Speaker 2: In so many words, yeah, she's yeah, she's dying, and she's sort of like reliving like people and moments of her. 00:46:18 Speaker 3: Li Oh okay, so she like in reality, she's probably in a hospital bed and she's imagining I'm on a train, because I assume the character is obsessed with trains. 00:46:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's it. That's what I never really thought about. Why it's a train they probably had one to shoot on. Remember, it was either that or a fog machine. And yeah, must put her on a train. Train feels like that a train is the thing you go to Helen. 00:46:42 Speaker 4: Yeah, actually that's very true. 00:46:45 Speaker 3: So maybe that's the big secret. 00:46:47 Speaker 2: I don't know that it's really said if she goes to heaven or hell. And that's why I write my fan fiction about her time in hell. Rebecca Pearson goes to Hell. That's canon. 00:47:01 Speaker 3: Your fan fiction. This is hell, this is hell. 00:47:04 Speaker 2: This is what happens when after your husband dies you marry his best friend. 00:47:08 Speaker 3: Okay, is that what happens? She should go to hell. 00:47:11 Speaker 4: It's complicated, but yes, I'm. 00:47:14 Speaker 3: Taking a real strong stance on this character. She should burn for eternity. 00:47:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but do we blame Miguel as well, the best friend. 00:47:21 Speaker 3: Well, he'll probably go to hell as well. Yeah, but they can't be together. 00:47:26 Speaker 2: Mm and Jack is in heaven, myle event Toglia is in heaven. 00:47:33 Speaker 3: He isn't a person who dies because the appliance starts on fire. 00:47:37 Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, it's. 00:47:38 Speaker 2: A really tease it for so long in the series, like you you know he dies, but. 00:47:43 Speaker 4: You don't know how. 00:47:44 Speaker 2: Oh, I had never watched the show when it was on, and I binged it this past year, so I really know a lot of like it's recent in my memory. 00:47:54 Speaker 3: Maybe I should get into it. 00:47:56 Speaker 4: Maybe I do like it. 00:47:57 Speaker 3: Is like sincerely or is there like an element of like this. I know, I realized this is a little, uh melodramatic, and it's fine. 00:48:05 Speaker 2: I would say nine sincerely ten percent, like this is over the top, like because there obviously are moments that are like, oh my god, this is so like dramatic. But I also I'm like, but it's also compelling, So like, what am I like? How much am I going to analyze my enjoyment of this? You know, like I am compelled and I want to know what happens, and I do care about the characters. 00:48:28 Speaker 3: Right, And so this is the problem with my entire life is I can't do things. Yeah, I will just be constantly thinking, analyzing if I'm enjoying and why I'm enjoying, and so ultimately not enjoying. 00:48:40 Speaker 2: You might have a hard time with this as okay, but I loved it. 00:48:43 Speaker 3: I mean I loved those ten minutes on the train. 00:48:46 Speaker 2: Watch the Pilot. Okay, the Pilot is a really good pilot. 00:48:50 Speaker 3: And they do put them in like old people. 00:48:52 Speaker 2: Clothes or yeah, because it takes place like we're constantly flashing back and forward. 00:48:58 Speaker 3: And when we flash back, it's not like flashing back to the two thousands and then they're in the future. They're like flashing back to the seventies or something. 00:49:04 Speaker 2: Yes, it starts. Everything starts in the seventies, okay, yeah, or yeah, like late seventies because in the first episode the triplets are turning thirty six. 00:49:15 Speaker 4: It's like their thirty sixth birthday. 00:49:16 Speaker 3: Oh three of them. Huh wow. 00:49:19 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:49:20 Speaker 3: I almost would prefer the show if it took place in like twenty fifty five and then they were flashing back. But then you probably won't have the crock pot. 00:49:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be harder to place it in time right and things we know. 00:49:33 Speaker 3: I get. Yeah, it would probably be an instant pot that explodes in his face or something that kills him. But that's it. There's always room for a reboot. I wish they would Jack killed by an air fry or something. Everything's different this time except the same act that she goes to. 00:49:50 Speaker 2: Hell, except for the fact that he dies and she goes to hell. Yeah, and he goes to heaven. 00:49:58 Speaker 3: I'm ready, well so excited about my ASMR video, Natasha will just be putting me to sleep. 00:50:04 Speaker 4: I hope it genuinely helps you. 00:50:06 Speaker 3: I cannot tell you how many times I've googled and then got right into YouTube. I've gone on TikTok, I've looked for this, and as you know, they don't exist. They don't exist, and some people have really put in an effort. They'll put on like a Park Ranger uniform, which we don't need. 00:50:21 Speaker 4: No, it's the. 00:50:22 Speaker 3: Sounds that matter. 00:50:23 Speaker 4: It's the sounds that matter. 00:50:24 Speaker 3: But they all forget about the highlighter. And so now I've got the one of these that exists, and maybe it'll inspire some other creators. 00:50:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe. So you don't have to share this. This is yours, This is my personal little treat. What's ASMR for you? 00:50:43 Speaker 4: I do like the whispering. I enjoy a good. 00:50:48 Speaker 2: Crinkle of something, oh you know, sure? Or I like the ones where it's like makeup brushes. 00:50:53 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I wonder is there some sort of like memory thing also attached where like because I don't use makeup, I don't feel like that would really have any effect on me. 00:51:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I guess, because yeah, I don't really I guess the whole thing about ASMR is we like don't totally understand what is happening. 00:51:12 Speaker 4: Mmm. 00:51:13 Speaker 2: I do feel like I remember the first time I felt like the experience of ASMR, but I like didn't know that that existed. 00:51:19 Speaker 4: But it was when I was in. 00:51:20 Speaker 2: Like a I was having a meeting with like my college counselor, and she was just like telling me like what I could do, And I was kind of like, why am I so relaxed by this even though I'm kind of also stressed about my future. So maybe I would maybe I would like an ASMR video. Maybe I'll order one from Natasha of her as my college counselor telling my course catalog and what I could do. 00:51:46 Speaker 3: I don't think I got a college counselor. I think my school counselors failed me in a huge way. 00:51:52 Speaker 2: Well, this was my college counselor at my community college because my no offense to community college. But because I didn't really have somebody at my high school who was like telling me what schools I should realistically apply. 00:52:04 Speaker 3: Oh, I went through this exact experience. Yeah, my high school counselor was just always bragging about how her brother had a job in Hollywood. But despite me it like mildly expressing interest in it, she had no interest in Yes, she just wanted to brag about him, so good riddance. 00:52:26 Speaker 4: Was she Mormon? 00:52:27 Speaker 2: Do we know? 00:52:29 Speaker 3: Probably? But yeah, asmr Yeah, it's the same thing for me. I've been haunted at or at national parks and museums until these things became popular. And what the twenty tens. 00:52:43 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that feels true. 00:52:45 Speaker 3: And like we became aware or at least the larger public became aware of it. Yeah, and now I've really secured my ultimate asmryah gorgeous. Well, I think we should play a game. 00:52:57 Speaker 4: I would love to play a game. 00:52:59 Speaker 3: Let's play Gift a Curse. I need a number between one and ten from you. 00:53:03 Speaker 4: Seven. 00:53:04 Speaker 3: Okay. I have to do some light calculating to get our game pieces. So right now, you can promote, recommend, do whatever you want. I'll be right back. 00:53:11 Speaker 4: Okay, I guess I'll promote. 00:53:13 Speaker 2: You can buy my album on vinyl it is fifteen dollars, or you can listen to it wherever. But I would say then just take it as what it is. Which is a promotional tool, and then I guess I would just be promoting me. If you want to give me a job or anything like that. I'm free and obviously hilarious. Obviously you should also watch This is Us. It's on Netflix. I also watched all of Desperate Housewives recently. That's kind of what I'm getting into. If anyone wants to just talk to me about Desperate Housewives, I'm promoting that as well. 00:53:45 Speaker 4: Reach out. They should not have killed Edie spoiler. 00:53:49 Speaker 3: Alert should go to hell? 00:53:52 Speaker 2: Sure, based on the rules i'm to understand about how Edie definitely goes to hell. 00:54:03 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, everybody, fine, Page Page is so funny and just delightful. I've worked with you, It's true. We worked on Corporate together, and I remember combining forces in a big way when we were writing Oh Yeah, the good Job episode because I had to really fight for an element of the show and I felt your support and you had a great joke that I think might be the last joke in the show. Yeah, do you remember what this is? 00:54:29 Speaker 4: The scene is the like the count off? 00:54:32 Speaker 3: Right? Yes? Yeah, there's like a there's a car saleswoman played by Lauren Lapkus wonderfully, but she's eventually discovered to be kind of a murderous car saleswoman that's trying to escape the country and ends up killing shooting five FBI agents. 00:54:50 Speaker 2: Right, And what we're following the whole time is she wants to get a five star review. 00:54:54 Speaker 3: Yes, five out of five, five out of five. 00:54:56 Speaker 4: So when we had these five. 00:54:58 Speaker 3: People, when she's done, when this murderous car saleswoman is done killing these federal agents, she says five out of five. And then I remember distinctly being in the writer's room with you, and then you pitched the idea of another agent coming in and her killing him and saying six out of five was yes, I'm pretty sure. 00:55:26 Speaker 2: Or was it that she shot four and then a fifth person comes in? 00:55:30 Speaker 3: No, it's six out of five. And we don't condone the killing of any one obviously, Okay. 00:55:37 Speaker 2: And I actually am now remembering this because I write, and yes, of course we don't, but I feel like the it was one of those classics moments where somebody is arguing like, well, that doesn't make sense, and I was being like. 00:55:49 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, that's why it's funny. 00:55:53 Speaker 3: There was a huge argument because they wanted her to just push the FBI agents over, and I remember I'd rarely get out in a writer's room. I remember yelling, if we don't have a car saleswoman kill five federal agents, then what are we even doing here? 00:56:07 Speaker 4: I remember now, oh my god. 00:56:09 Speaker 3: And again, we don't want federal agents killed. It's not funny, no, but it was just so absurd that this essentially like a Buick saleswoman becomes the ultimate villain. Yeah, not Buick. I think we had to name it a different brand. We wanted Pontiac and then Pontiac we couldn't because of the copyright. 00:56:25 Speaker 2: It ended up being it was something you you said, because it's like a car that's not made anymore. 00:56:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted Pontiac. I wanted it to be a Pontiac Firebird or Sunfire or something, but we ended up calling it like the brand. I think it was like Saturn or no, not even Saturn. It was Jupiter. Jupiter, fake car, fake car. But I mean, the thing was fakes. What are they talking about? 00:56:50 Speaker 2: When I watched that episode of Corporate it was really hard for. 00:56:52 Speaker 4: Me to find. 00:56:52 Speaker 2: And then I watched it, I thought the whole thing was real. 00:56:55 Speaker 3: I thought it was a documentary. 00:56:57 Speaker 4: I literally thought that those people died. 00:56:59 Speaker 3: And this woman on the lamb. 00:57:01 Speaker 2: I know Halloween's past, but man, I'd like to encourage anyone out there next Halloween go as those five. 00:57:06 Speaker 4: And six agents. Will not that be such a good costume? 00:57:08 Speaker 3: Oh my god, the deepest costume. 00:57:11 Speaker 4: You would have to explain so much. 00:57:15 Speaker 3: There would be a lot. I mean again, listener, more ears on this podcast. They would just send them this episode. 00:57:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, listen to the episode. Listen to this episode of the podcast. Don't watch the episode. 00:57:26 Speaker 3: Okay, now that we've really I've completely derailed the show, don't apologize I'm saying I'm sorry. I'm not sorry. I look in the camera lot. Okay, this is how we play Gift or a Curse. I'm going to name three things. You're going to tell me if they're a gift or a curse and why then I'll tell you. Tell you if you're right or wrong, because there are correct answers. Okay, you can lose. Oh, and I should remind the listener that you can now buy the home version of this at exactly rightstore dot com. 00:57:56 Speaker 4: Are coming. 00:57:57 Speaker 3: Oh, the holidays are just around the corner, and this game will start fights. So you want to you know, you want to ruin Christmas. Get the game. That's all I'm going to say. Okay, Number one this is from a listener named Andy. Gift to a curse being the only man invited to a baby shower. 00:58:17 Speaker 2: Okay, this is interesting because I have been the only woman in a grooms party, which I feel sort of a similar feeling the only man invited. I assume, gosh, I and. 00:58:33 Speaker 4: I'm getting too in the weeds. 00:58:34 Speaker 2: But is it like, are you the only man because you're a guest of someone there, or are you a friend who didn't. 00:58:39 Speaker 4: Want to be left out? 00:58:41 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm. 00:58:45 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say just curse because I think it's a curse to be invited to a baby shower in general, because you have to get a gift and pretend to be excited about the baby. And yeah, so I guess I'm taking out the fact that you're the only man and just saying in general, curse. 00:59:05 Speaker 3: Wrong, it's a gift. We all know what's happening here. All of the ladies are saying, do we invite the gay one? Yeah, and of course we do. It is a horrible thing to have to go to the baby shower, any shower, it's such a boring event. And then the ones where that I've actually never been. 00:59:25 Speaker 4: To one coming you're saying it's horrible, but. 00:59:28 Speaker 3: We love that including or at least release, you know, just pointing out, Look, here comes Bridger. We all know why Bridger is invited. He's one of the girls, and it's an incredible it's just something we all know what's going on, right, and it's ultimately, you know, it's such a gift interesting, absolutely no evidence to back up. 00:59:59 Speaker 5: You know. 01:00:00 Speaker 2: I guess if I do think back to my experience being a grooms woman, it did give me a certain feeling of like, I guess I'm cool. I guess I'm one of the guys. And that is a nice feeling. I guess, yes, it's a nice feeling. It's a nice feeling to sort of, uh get to be. I don't know, fine, I lose that. 01:00:25 Speaker 3: Round and I think you do lose the round. And I think it gives us a nice little piece of slang to refer to a game man. You know, it's like, you know, he's the only man invited to it. He's the only man invited to. 01:00:37 Speaker 4: To my baby shower. 01:00:40 Speaker 3: It's code. It's ultimately code cod It's been around for ages, and uh, it's so old fashioned. We all know what's happening. 01:00:49 Speaker 4: Okay, good question. 01:00:50 Speaker 2: When people write in with their suggestions, do they say whether they think it's a gift or a curse? 01:00:55 Speaker 3: Occasionally and I ignore it. 01:00:57 Speaker 2: Okay, I just I don't want to answer, like your belief is the. 01:01:02 Speaker 3: Old Yeah, my knowledge is the ultimate knowledge. What you know is what is fact is backed Yeah. But yeah, when they write in, I think a lot of times they'll write in something that is horrible and they feel the need to be like I do think this is bad. Okay, Okay. Number two, this is from my sister, and she kind of gets priority when she submits things. My sister, Sarah Ashley gift her a curse. People waving you through a four way stop even though they clearly got their first curse. Page almost walked off the podcast. 01:01:33 Speaker 2: There is nothing I hate more as a driver than when we are trying to be polite instead of just following the rules, because now you've endangered all of us. We are all operating from a set of rules that we know, and no one is a hero for waving someone in like just go when you're supposed to go. Hesitating and doing the wrong thing is when accidents happen. 01:02:03 Speaker 3: Page wrong. It's a gift, and I'll tell you exactly why it really it is one of the most infuriating things that could possibly happen to a person, and it taught me. I really had to learn a lesson in the past. Just in the past few months. I had to say, I have to stop being so mad at these people, because I was getting to the point I was yelling things like, you've been living there your entire life. You're a naturalized citizens of that stop sign. You could run for president of that stop sign. I was so mad at these people. They had they had been there waving way before me, and I would get furious. I was thinking, why am I who cares? And so I really grew as a person thanks to all these horrible drivers. And now get to I'll pull up, they wave me through, and I say, I'll take it. You're bad at driving, and I'm headed on my way. A nice sense of superiority. 01:02:54 Speaker 4: To you because you get to go a little sooner. 01:02:56 Speaker 3: I get to go a little sooner. And I've evolved as a person. I'm now and evolved. 01:03:01 Speaker 4: So you're saying I'm not evolved. 01:03:03 Speaker 3: Exactly in so many words, but I mean it is one of the most maddening. 01:03:13 Speaker 4: It makes me. 01:03:15 Speaker 2: You brought up something that I like talk about all the time because it bothers me so much. 01:03:20 Speaker 4: Is politeness on the road. 01:03:23 Speaker 3: My neighborhood is littered with four way stops, and so I'm seeing every type of behavior all the time. Yeah, and so I've had to really just come to terms with no one knows how to use a four way stop, but we should. It's very simple. 01:03:37 Speaker 2: It's so simple. 01:03:39 Speaker 3: But for whatever reason, people have decided all of our brains will break down when we pull up to this. 01:03:45 Speaker 2: Everyone thinks, oh, this is my opportunity to show I'm so nice. I just think you're stupid. Actually, oh that's just my opinion. 01:03:54 Speaker 3: All right, Okay, you've gotten zero so far and doing terrible. Okay. This third one is we don't know who it's from. It's from the We got some from the Instagram live before the live show, last live show. So my apologies to whoever this is gift or a curse? Someone reciting a poem to you from memory? 01:04:14 Speaker 4: How long is the poem? Can we talk about that. 01:04:17 Speaker 3: Poems can be any length, could be the odyssey, it could be a haikup, this is. 01:04:23 Speaker 4: A hard one. 01:04:24 Speaker 2: I can't say this has happened to me, so I guess except in a school environment where somebody is doing their presentation. I don't know why I said school like that. I guess I'm gonna say gift because I think ultimately that's kind of sweet. I think that's cute that somebody loves a poem so much that they memorized it and they want to share it with you. 01:04:51 Speaker 4: Gift. 01:04:52 Speaker 3: It's a gift, I mean, as you said, what a beautiful thing and sweet, also potentially terrifying. I mean, it can run the gamut of emotional feelings, like the mood can be. If that were whispered to you from somebody behind you in a movie theater, what's happening? If it's a dear friend, you think, oh, they love it and it's just such a beautiful thing. Do you have any poems memorized? 01:05:18 Speaker 4: I don't think I do, not like a straight up like I have. 01:05:23 Speaker 2: I feel like song lyrics obviously I have, but I don't know that I have any poems summarized. 01:05:29 Speaker 5: You. 01:05:30 Speaker 3: I think I could probably, like, maybe not verbatim, but I could probably I know, like a kind of weirdly devastating that I really made an impression on me. It's very short. I remember because I follow like an Instagram account that like posts sold poems. Yeah, I can't remember the name of it, but they should I try. 01:05:50 Speaker 4: I think you should absolutely try. 01:05:51 Speaker 3: It's kind of a devastating if I remember correctly. 01:05:54 Speaker 2: That is my If we're not writing a devastating poem, what are we doing? 01:05:58 Speaker 1: Right? 01:05:59 Speaker 3: It's a story sort of question d a riddle or a joke. 01:06:03 Speaker 2: Art is supposed to hurt your feelings in my opinion. 01:06:06 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna try this. It was from like a it was from like a Japanese poet in like the eleven hundreds or something, I don't know, like a very old thing. But obviously this wouldn't be the Japanese. Okay, everyone forgive me. I'm trying to access my memory to show off I'm not looking at and also everybody prepared to be devastated, and I'm gonna I'm gonna do this as dramatically or as beautifully as I cry. We might all cry. This might touch something for all of us. Okay, it goes A thousand years you said, as our hearts melted, I look at the hand you held, and the ache is too much to bear. I think that's it on Ali's can you try googling that? 01:06:57 Speaker 2: So I've got a thousand years said, let's break it down. 01:07:03 Speaker 3: It's a. It's a tough one. It's a. It's a to me. Yeah, it's some sort of loss, you know, either through death or through someone leaving someone. Yeah, I don't at least how close? Was that? 01:07:17 Speaker 2: Very close? 01:07:18 Speaker 6: A thousand years you said, as our two hearts melted, I took it. I look at the hand you held, and the ache is too hard to bear. 01:07:25 Speaker 4: Oh what did I miss? I think it might have been just some light phrasing difference. Yes at the end. 01:07:31 Speaker 3: Wow, good for me. 01:07:32 Speaker 2: Yes, Oh it was actually the eighth century. 01:07:35 Speaker 4: That's whitch. 01:07:36 Speaker 3: Oh I'm an absolute fraud. The fact that I have recalled anything for my brain, this is a first for the podcast for me to remember something. 01:07:47 Speaker 4: That was really good. I don't remember anything. 01:07:50 Speaker 3: Isn't that a sad poem? 01:07:51 Speaker 4: That's really sad? 01:07:52 Speaker 3: Just the line I look at the hand you held. 01:07:54 Speaker 2: Even just the first line, A thousand years you said, yeah, you know you said, oh, basically you said forever. 01:08:03 Speaker 3: You know, heart wrenching, and here we are. So it's nice to know that people in the eighth century were also kind of just doing these We all have emotional yeah lost it always it comes for all of us. And then only a few of us choose to write a poem that bridget Wineger remembers centuries later beautiful. That person really made an impression on me. Do we know who wrote it? Thank you for sharing Internet. 01:08:29 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I was literally gonna say, I was like, probably anything I could come up with is maybe like a Shell Silverstein like, but I feel like I can only remember the names of the books. 01:08:40 Speaker 1: You know. 01:08:40 Speaker 2: I hope I'm not butchering this. 01:08:42 Speaker 3: But Lady Higory, Oh, Lady Higary. 01:08:45 Speaker 2: Hickory, hgg you r I in English? 01:08:48 Speaker 3: Good for her? 01:08:49 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I know that we're like coming to the end of the podcast. But have I ever told you my Shell Silverstein story. 01:08:56 Speaker 3: No. 01:08:56 Speaker 4: When I was in fifth. 01:08:57 Speaker 2: Grade, we wrote to our favorite author and sometimes we would get a letter back, and if we did, the teacher would like read it out loud, and we got a letter back from Shell silver Scene and my teacher did not like pre read it. He like opened it and was reading it and it literally was to a classroom full of fifth graders and it said something like, dear page, thank you so much for your kind letter. Unfortunately Shell passed away last year. Oh and he read that out loud and it like all that's how everyone in mike fifth grade class found out that Shell Silverstein died. 01:09:35 Speaker 3: What was the reaction. 01:09:36 Speaker 4: I feel like it. 01:09:37 Speaker 2: Was just like he like stopped reading the letter and we like read the book we were reading out loud that day or something like we moved on. 01:09:43 Speaker 3: The teacher must have been learning in that moment. 01:09:46 Speaker 2: He must have. Yeah, because we all thought we got a letter from Shell. 01:09:51 Speaker 4: It was brutal to hear. 01:09:54 Speaker 2: I don't know exactly how it affected me psychologically, but it definitely did. 01:09:58 Speaker 4: Wow. 01:10:00 Speaker 3: Wow, what a. 01:10:03 Speaker 2: You'll always remember, Yeah, that Shel Silverstein is dead. 01:10:07 Speaker 3: You'll never forget. 01:10:08 Speaker 4: I absolutely remember. 01:10:10 Speaker 3: Like so many people forget. Well, you got one out of three. That's not a bad and we got a poem out of it. I feel good about that. Oh. Yes, and we have a new segment of the podcast. This is just the second time we're doing it. This is Onalise's gift or a curse, and Onalise is the only truly subjective or objective source of information on in the backyard right now. And so they're going to give us one more gift or a curse, and we're both going to answer. 01:10:33 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, gift you a curse. 01:10:36 Speaker 6: Voice notes on dating apps, oh oh to. 01:10:42 Speaker 2: Me, gift because of the fact that the minute I hear it, most of the time, I'm like, oh no, thanks, no, it's bad, but I appreciate knowing what someone's voice sounds like and if they're annoying. 01:11:00 Speaker 4: Gift. 01:11:02 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to really give this some thought. I haven't been on a dating app in a while. I'm trying to put myself in the place of someone who is not only just opened a dating app there tired of dating, They've filled out their interests and now there's a record button for them to record. Is it just as much as you want to record? Yeah, okay, gift, here is the big opportunity to publish your audio book. Everybody else has passed, and you thought that if things were over, you were going to move, you were going to move back home, fall back on your other job. And now you have hundreds of hours of recording time to hit that little red button and get going, and you've got an eager audience ready to listen. It's a gift. Everybody should have to record a voice note on every app. Okay, on at least what do you think it's a gift. You're calibrated well on this podcast. I have to go meet somebody in the flesh, and I have to get in my car and drive however many minutes to meet them. I want to understand that there are at least a few chemistry markers that we have checked off, and if I can hear their voice and make sure that it doesn't sound awful, that is a gift. 01:12:27 Speaker 4: Absolutely, that is a gift. 01:12:28 Speaker 6: And also it does help a situation like if you're saying, if you send one and somebody's like put off by that, then you know, oh, this person has something to hide. 01:12:39 Speaker 3: I have nothing to hide. 01:12:40 Speaker 6: I'm going to send this. They're going to hear my voice. Right, Clearly, they have something to hide. 01:12:44 Speaker 2: Now, I know not to engage. 01:12:45 Speaker 3: And what kind of things are people saying? 01:12:48 Speaker 6: I mean, most of it's on hinge, so it's usually on their profile and people can like for me example, I shared the last time I think was the last time I cried, and it was listening to the How to Train Your Dragon soundtracks have perfect played. I played a clip of the soundtrack O dream Works is Coming for You, Yes, exactly. Well it was the reason I'm not playing it on the podcast. But yeah, it's like it gives you a chance to like showcase a little personality. 01:13:15 Speaker 2: As you said, an audiobook can never hurt. Yeah, it's like not just can I hear if your voice is strange in some way, so I'm not visibly surprised in real life. But also, like you know, it's just so much easier to get a sense of someone's sort of vibe and energy from their voice, yes, and how they actually talk right, as opposed to you know, some people have a hard time writing a thing A thing. 01:13:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I will say just any element of a dating app is a nightmare. 01:13:45 Speaker 2: Oh it's it's embarrassing no matter what, and it's yeah bad. But I think when I have seen a voice note, I'm grateful for it. I personally do not have one on any of my profiles. But you could sing a song, I could sing a song. I'm giving you a beautiful poem to tell your Shell Silverstein story. 01:14:06 Speaker 3: Or just say Shell Silverstein is dead. Nice quick a. 01:14:09 Speaker 2: Fun fact about me, Shell Silverstein is dead. 01:14:14 Speaker 3: The men will be lighting up, very funny. You will have so many dates. All right. This is the final segment of the podcast. It's called I Said No emails. People write into I Said No gifts at gmail dot com begging for answers. We hope me answer a question I would love to. Okay, let's see here. Okay, this is dear Bridger and sparkling guests. That's a nice little thing about you. The Christmas gifts at my family's annual gathering have simply gotten out of control. My husband and I have two kids under ten who are the only kids in the family. In the past, we've tried to institute a rule with my parents, brother and sister in law to not buy any presents for the adults and only buy for the kids if they want to. Okay, and I'm just gonna stop right now. I see already two other things in parentheses or three. There's gonna be a lot of following here. 01:15:04 Speaker 4: I'm creating a family tree in my mind. 01:15:06 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, we all have to Okay, However, the gift rules have evolved from no adult gifts parentheses never happened, okay, to one or two nominal things for the grown ups parentheses also never happened, to a dozen often higher value items per adult parentheses always happens. So what does this mean We're always giving everybody a lot of expensive items? Is that clear that these parentheses are not helping me? I want the. 01:15:32 Speaker 2: Writer to know I'm completely throwing me okay, But basically, I guess what we're to understand is it used to be only gifts for the kids, and now it's gotten out of control where people are buying for the adults. 01:15:43 Speaker 3: Right. Yet everyone continues to say, let's not do this. Yeah, okay. This in addition to the mountain of gifts the kids get, which is honestly way too much. We've tried again and again to get our family to not buy us anything, but it never seems to work. On top of this, we feel the pressure to buy them gifts since they are getting us lots of things in addition to spoiling our kids. Please help us de escalate this mutually assured destruction in form of rampant holiday consumerism. Thanks, and that's from Riz. Okay, so I again barely followed what was happening there. But basically, what what she is looking to do is not have as many gifts be given. 01:16:24 Speaker 4: Yeah, am I correct? I think so? 01:16:26 Speaker 2: And I guess it seems like a semi large family. 01:16:31 Speaker 3: No, it's very small. I mean well, I mean actually, whenever I say it's a small family that's coming from a Mormon background. 01:16:38 Speaker 2: As an only child who just goes to her parents for. 01:16:41 Speaker 3: Christmas, a lot of people, but I think this is a normal It's a husband, her two kids, parents, brother and sister in law. 01:16:53 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's their kids. 01:16:55 Speaker 3: Entially, they're only two children involved here. 01:17:00 Speaker 2: Gosh, I mean maybe is a secret Sannah in order? You know, so I guarantee that each adult only gets one gift, right, right? Because I imagine it's like, if you're only getting one gift for each person, then that still means each person has multiple gifts, right, And that's how it starts to get out of hand. But if if we still want everyone to get a gift, we just assign, right, the kids should get a bunch of gifts. 01:17:32 Speaker 3: Get them a few things money there, get them freaks I love it, get them something. 01:17:38 Speaker 2: The Christmas morning. Get on Christmas morning. It's an expression they'll take as much as they can get. 01:17:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like that works. I feel like another strategy, if she wants to be a little bit more subtle, is get an expired like credit card, put it in her wallet and then say I want to take everyone out to dinner, and then she you know, goes to pay and it gets declined obviously it's expired. And now everyone's like, oh, something's going on with Rizz's financial situation. Maybe we shouldn't do gifts this year, And now the problem is solved trickery making hints about right, it's gone too far, it's financially I'm ruined. 01:18:14 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, which it is, well, there is, Sorry, I'm just thinking about it. Is like it it's vulnerable to say like, can we do less gifts, because then inherently everyone's gonna be like, right, of course they don't have any money, like what is everything okay? Like, but I also feel like, honestly, every uh, every Christmas where someone has been the one to be like, let's not do a bunch of gifts, we still get like a couple things each, right, and it's nice, But I think even just like putting out the vibe of like can we not do a ton this year? Does tamp that down a little bit, right, And personally, I think most people would be relieved. 01:19:01 Speaker 3: Right, I guess I'd an anonymous email, so nobody knows who's having a financial problem. 01:19:08 Speaker 4: Yeah, just go full Grinch just fully like. 01:19:14 Speaker 2: Christmas start now. 01:19:18 Speaker 3: Okay, Well we answered Rizz's question perfectly. Riz don't write back in please, oh page I'm I mean, what a gift you've given me. This is a top ten top ten gifts. Certainly I'm going to cherish it forever. 01:19:32 Speaker 2: I'm so glad and thank you to Natasha for her professionalism, seriously dedication to the craft. 01:19:38 Speaker 3: And I also have this beautiful thing to listen to. Yeah, your new album, which I'm so excited about because you are terrific. 01:19:45 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. 01:19:47 Speaker 3: And everyone should go listen to it in whatever way they want, for. 01:19:51 Speaker 4: Somebody if you don't want to. 01:19:52 Speaker 3: But it's a beautiful green, beautiful piece of green, but in an edition. Well, thank you for being here, thank you for having me listener. The podcast is over. I know you know that you thought it was gonna this was gonna be the one that went on forever, but that'll be a different episode. Eventually, we will get to the point when it doesn't we don't stop recording, and then you'll be trapped and you have to watch what you wish for, because that will become your own little jail of having to listen to me. It'll be kind of your train to hell. So today we're just going to say goodbye. I love you. I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. Our senior producer is on A Lisa Nelson, and our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. The theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann, and we couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Cottner. You must follow the show on Instagram. At I said no Gifts, that's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see the gifts. 01:21:00 Speaker 1: Here? 01:21:02 Speaker 5: Thought? 01:21:03 Speaker 1: I made myself perfectly clear. 01:21:06 Speaker 4: But you're I. 01:21:07 Speaker 1: Guess to my home. You gotta come to me empty And I said, no, guess, your own presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me?