WEBVTT - Trey Bien 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:06.640 Is this a great game or what with the Hall 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:09.400 of Famer Tim Kirkshon, I'm his son, Jeff Kirkshon, and 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:14.600 we are well underway into the Division series. And Dad, 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:17.320 you were just in Toronto. You got on a flight, 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:19.959 you got there seven hours early to make sure you 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:23.400 didn't miss it. Now you're in New York and we've 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:26.639 got more podcasting for everybody. We found time to do 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:31.200 another episode during the playoffs. It's amazing, right, Yeah, Toronto 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:31.720 was great. 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:34.239 By the way, Jeff, I saw Uncle Craig, which is 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:38.919 always an important thing. We have family in Toronto. That 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:41.559 ballpark is really cool, Jeff. You know it opened in 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:46.040 nineteen eighty nine. They've refurbished it. It's great. The crowd 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:51.240 noise is incredible. Ernie clement, infielder for the Blue Jays, 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:54.720 told me this place has been totally insane for the 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:57.920 last month, but really since the middle of July, people 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:01.280 here are really catching on to the Blue Jays. It 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:03.760 was great. So we had a great time at Toronto. 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:08.160 Rabbi Eduardo and I tremendous. The only downside no dive 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:12.120 mountain dew in the city of Toronto. I looked everywhere. 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.280 Now I can get through this, Jeff. I'm a grown man, 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.600 but no dive mountain do in Toronto's that surprise you 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:19.200 a little bit? 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:21.520 Yeah, we've run into this is a couple times that 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:25.560 when we've done trips to different various places growing up, 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:28.440 when you we would go to a cabin or we 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:30.200 would end up at a beach somewhere and you'd have 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:32.559 to drive thirty minutes to find a diet mountain dew. 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:36.160 I'm not that hooked. I am bad, but I'm not 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:40.440 that bad. It's pretty bad, Jeff. But so that's okay. 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:42.480 I'm in New York. They have dive mountain dews all 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:44.679 over the place, and Jeff, I need to bounce something 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:49.480 off you. Okay. The other day, some of my basketball 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:52.400 friends from the Old Dog League, which is no longer 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:55.520 because we're too old now, they send out a clip. 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:58.000 I'm not even gonna be specific about it. They sent 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:02.040 out a clip of a baseball player making some very 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:06.960 controversial remarks and I can't even tell you who it 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:11.360 is because it would be it's slanderous to do that. Okay. 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:14.639 So I looked at it and I showed it to Eduardo. 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:17.680 I showed him this clip that was passed around from 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:20.520 all of our basketball friends and he looks at me 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:23.960 and goes, Tim, that's AI. Don't ever use that. So 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:27.840 they had taken Jeff, You've got to help me here, okay. 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:32.520 To me, AI is Alan Iverson Okay, who, by the way, 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.839 had the greatest crossover I've he has the greatest off 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:38.839 the dribble move in the history of the NBA. None 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:42.200 of that matters at the moment. What matters is I 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:45.280 would never use something like that without checking it out. 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:50.280 But I was completely fooled by this this player. Words 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:53.079 were coming out of his mouth that he did not say. 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:55.760 And that's what AI can do. Am I the most 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:57.120 naive man in the world. 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:00.480 No, you're not. There are plenty of people, well even 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:03.400 my age, but your generation would get fooled a little 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:06.440 more than mine. But nonetheless, even my age, we'll see 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:10.480 an AI photo or an AI video of of somebody 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:14.520 saying something they didn't say. And listen, Dad, I am 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:17.280 the first to criticize you for your age, and you 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:20.280 know I love you. But trust me, even I've been 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:24.960 duped by some of these AI photos or these AI videos. 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:27.400 I think I know the exact one you're talking about. 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:29.360 It's an AI video of. 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:33.240 Don't use his name. I'm not kidding, it's not right. 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:35.720 Well, you're not sharing it. We won't use the name. 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:38.040 But I know exactly the video because I've seen the 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:41.000 same exact video and yeah, Dad, it's it's it's all fake. 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:45.520 It looks that Did it fool you at all? No, Jeff, 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:51.480 who does AI things like this? What what type of 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.960 person would do something like that? Dad? Well? 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:58.240 AI stands for artificial intelligence. 0:03:57.680 --> 0:03:59.280 Yes, so aware of that. 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:03.520 It's the computer. So somebody types in show me Tim 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:07.080 Kirkshin saying that he hates his son and this is 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:10.080 the last episode of the podcast because he's a nightmare 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:12.800 to work with, and they could do a video of 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:17.120 you saying those words. It's a very scary time we're in. 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:18.880 I don't want to go down the rabbit hole here 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:22.480 and being dark, dad, but I want you to as 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:26.800 youre shun. There are people, scary people out there who 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:29.840 can like AI other people's voices, you know, and make 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:33.120 it sound like it's me calling you. Just make sure 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:36.680 it's me calling you. We'll have a secret word, okay. 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:40.400 Our secret word is Walter Johnson High School. So if 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.479 I don't bring up Walter Johnson High School. You know 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:45.080 it's not me, Okay. 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:48.599 All right, Jeff. This was troublesome and it was revealing, 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:52.640 and as always, Eduardo Perez the greatest teammate ever. I 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:54.800 wasn't going to release any of this, but I did 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:58.000 ask him did you see this? And within one second 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:01.679 he recognized this was AI at work. 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:03.760 Yeah, it's a scary time. 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:04.039 Dad. 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:06.359 I'm going to be completely honest with you, but I 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:12.640 will say there are good uses of AI and they 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:14.240 kind of have to do a little bit with my 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:20.080 update for you, Dad. We are moving. We put we signed, 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:24.920 we signed for a house. I oh, I haven't really yeah, 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:28.400 actually I know you were doing a bit but actually yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:34.000 We're just fifteen minutes down the road, not too far 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:36.920 from where we live currently, still in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania, 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:40.640 same school district, same everything. But yeah, we're moving houses. 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:43.200 Well, am I paying for this one? Also? 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:47.880 No, you're not getting pay for this one. But I 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:50.159 will say, Dad, the point of bringing this up, the 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:52.280 point I know, I know the point of bringing this 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:56.520 up is because I use a thing called chat GPT, 0:05:56.680 --> 0:06:01.559 which is an AI service to help me find out Okay, 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:03.840 what's my new monthly payment going to be? Like how 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:05.719 much money should I put down if I want my 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:08.279 payment to be at you know, X amount of dollars 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.360 a month. So there are really positive uses. And here 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.080 on the podcast as a staff of two. 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.520 Jeff here and ten staff of one who knows what 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:19.800 he's doing right. 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:22.120 Right, you plan the show. We do the show together. 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:27.080 I produce the show. I use small but substantial AI 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:30.520 tools at times through this website we call that. We 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:33.599 use it's called riverside to record when we're virtual. That 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:36.760 kind of helped me get through the episode without having 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:39.520 to be nitpicky. So it like cuts all the cameras 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.520 for us an AI tool. So there are good uses 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:45.159 of it, but there are scary not good uses of 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:47.000 it Dad, So there's a. 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:50.919 Lot a lot. After Eduardo saw that, he just looked 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:54.160 at me and said, poor pop Up or pop Up. 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:57.440 Even my colleagues called me poor pop Up when I 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:59.040 screw up something like, well. 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:02.400 We could do a whole episode full of poor Popop's dad, 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.039 because I think we need to catch up on a 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:07.280 lot of them because we have not been as good 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:09.080 about it. But I have to give a shout out 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:12.880 to one of our listeners. Okay, Sarah. Sarah sent us 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:16.200 a message and she said her husband introduce her to 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:17.440 is this a great game or what? 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:17.800 Dad? 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:19.520 And I know you saw this one because I saw 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:23.720 that you had responded, and she recommended made a suggestion saying, 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:27.160 maybe during the off season we could kind of rewind 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:31.760 back and maybe dive deep into you know, those first 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:34.600 time baseball fans. I'm not talking about like what's a 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:37.960 single right, Like I think that's a little too basic, 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:40.560 but we can go a little more into you know, 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:44.200 what does a South Paul mean? Like why is it 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:44.760 called that? 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:45.160 Right? 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:48.040 Like the funny ins and outs of baseball, the warning track, 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:50.840 Like we could do a whole episode Dad on like 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.800 the terms of baseball that are a little bit deeper 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:56.200 that if you hear them you might not know what 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.440 they mean. Or we could do, you know, a whole 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:03.280 episode of perfect games and no hitters right explaining obviously 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.720 what they are, but then sharing some of your best 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:07.880 stories with some of the best perfect games and best 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.200 no hitter stories. I think I think this could be 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:12.200 a really cool thing to do during the offseason. And 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:14.760 we gotta, we gotta ask, we gotta thank Sarah for that. 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.680 Yeah. I think she called it baseball one oh one 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:21.080 or something and there. Yeah, well, look, I'm in. I'm in. 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:25.760 I love that people who don't necessarily love or understand 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:29.160 baseball are tuning in. That's what we're that's what we're 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:33.800 here for. We're here to help hopefully officionados and first timers. 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:37.240 So it's great, that's what we're here for, all right, Dad. Well, 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:40.760 now that we've gotten our AI and house buying updates done, 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:43.559 let's go into the takeaways of the playoffs. 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:46.080 All right, Well, I gotta start with where I've been. 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:48.600 I saw the Blue Jays, Jeff, and I knew they 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:51.040 were good. They won ninety four games. They're even better 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:55.240 than I thought. Number One, they have elite defensive team. 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:59.839 They have a plus defender virtually every position, like anytime 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:03.000 they throw eight or eight or nine guys out there. 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.200 They also have scored the fourth most runs in the 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.920 major leagues Jeff, and they scored twenty three runs in 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:13.520 the first two games of the LDS against the Yankees. 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:17.280 No team has ever scored that many runs in the 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:21.360 first two games of any playoff series, and included in 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:26.120 there was a stretch of twenty unanswered runs no team 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:28.720 has ever done that, And Jeff, this is why we 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.200 love baseball so much. The guy leading the way, at 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:36.440 least at the beginning, was Alejandro Kirk, who is I'm sorry, 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:41.199 he's a short, fat, little catcher, and yet he's a really, 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:45.480 really good baseball player. And he hit two homers to 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:49.600 end the regular season a clinch situation, and then he 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:53.120 hit two homers in his first playoff games. So he's 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:56.960 the only player in Major league history to two homers 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.680 in a clincher to end the season and then two 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:02.800 home in the first playoff game. No one's ever done 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:05.800 that before. And he's got you know, he's got great 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:10.000 battball skills and defensively he's got great hands. I mean, 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:13.319 that's that's all that matters. When you watch a player play, 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:16.480 doesn't matter what his body looks like. Can he play 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:18.199 the game? Does he have the skills for it? I've 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:20.600 told you a million times. One of the beauties of 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:24.079 this sport is it's open to all shapes and sizes, 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:28.600 and he is an odd shape and a really good player. Yeah. 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:32.359 I was really disappointed, Dad, because Ernie Clement, the aforementioned 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:34.880 he hit a home run in Game two of the 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:37.320 Alds and I was kind of in and out. I 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:40.120 was watching my daughter McKinley while watching that game, and 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:42.160 I ran back to the TV and I thought a 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.560 guy hit a home run from the number nine spot. 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:47.400 I got really excited, right, but he only was in 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.439 the number nine spot in game one. I hadn't recognized 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:52.960 that he was not, so I got really pumped that 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:54.600 I was going to bring something to the table that 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:57.400 you obviously would have had, but it was it was 0:10:57.480 --> 0:10:58.720 nothing for me. It was not. 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:02.640 By the way, Ernie Clement looks a lot like Aaron Boone. 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:06.520 We actually had this discussion I did with Ernie Clement 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:11.600 and with Aaron Boone separately, and they both recognize that 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:15.040 there's some similarities there, and they've both heard from both sides, 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:17.480 Hey you look a little bit like each other. And Boone, 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:20.960 of course is you know, much older. But I found 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:24.240 that interesting that the manager and in this case, the 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:26.800 third baseman that helped beat him in game two, they 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:28.720 look a lot of light they do. 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:31.640 And Dad, well, we were watching the Phillies game on 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:36.000 Saturday night. My wife leapt into the air. Emily was 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:40.079 so excited when there was a sacrifice fly in the game. 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:42.120 She immediately said, I'm. 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:46.640 So fascinated a sacrifice fly because that's like the thing 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:49.800 she tracks now because that she knows that you are 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:54.240 fascinated by sacrifice flies, and so she has now joined 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:55.319 in the fascination. 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:59.840 Well, I'm so glad that Emily is fascinated by anything 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:03.520 that I do. So that is great. Now, speaking of 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:07.160 the Jays, though, Treya Savage was just unbelievable. 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:07.560 Jeff. 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:12.840 He had pitched fourteen innings in his major league career 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:16.200 and then out went out and pitched one of the 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:20.200 most dominant games that anyone has ever seen in the 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:24.200 history of the postseason. So seven different pitchers in the 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:27.079 history of the game I have ever started a postseason 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:31.680 game with fourteen or fewer innings in their career, and 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:35.520 only two of them went three or more innings. This 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:39.280 guy went five and a third, did not allow a hit, 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:45.560 and struck out eleven. It was just unbelievable how good 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:47.640 his stuff was. And Jeff, I need you to help 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:50.200 me as a young guy that they were telling me 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:52.959 before the game and during the week that no that 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:57.080 he has the presence of Gaylord Perry going to the Mount. 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.960 Gaylord Perry was an old veteran guy who would walk 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.840 to that mound and make it clear to anyone who 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:06.920 cared to listen, this is my mound. I'm in charge here, 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:11.480 and that's the way this kid commands himself. At age 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:15.120 twenty two, with fourteen innings in the big leagues, he 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:18.760 started the season Jeff in a ball and then pitch 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:21.199 one of the greatest games we've ever seen. The Yankees 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:25.079 had zero chance, zero chance to get a hit off 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.200 of this guy. How do we explain, Jeff? As I 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:30.160 ask a young guy that our twenty two year olds 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.559 are so much more advanced. I mean, George Springer of 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:35.120 the Blue Jays told me, these kids are way better 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:38.040 than I was when I first came up. And there's 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:41.959 so much more polished and more worldly, he said. When 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:44.880 I first was in the late minor leagues, he said, 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:47.440 you know, I'm living with five guys. I'm sleeping on 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:50.400 the floor or sharing a car. I'm eating six days 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:54.280 a week at you know, Subway, he said. Now these 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:56.520 kids come to the big leagues and there are personal 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.720 chefs in the clubhouse. Wow, is that all part of it? 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.160 These guys being more ready when they get. 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:05.240 Here, Well, I think it definitely could be Dad, And 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:07.760 I think his name might have something to do with 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:10.480 it though, because you know what the kids are saying 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:14.360 these days is savage. When someone's a savage, it's. 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:17.280 A good thingod thing, right, So how do he pitch? 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:17.760 Yeah? 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:18.360 Savage? 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:22.800 You savage tree, You've fun fact. Fun fact, Dad. I 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:25.440 don't know if you recognize this, but our podcast is 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:29.360 filmed in skip Back, Pennsylvania, right when we are together, 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:34.040 And he grew up in Pottstown, Dad, that is actually 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:37.040 twenty minutes where I go to my local costco. So 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:39.720 he was born in Pottstown. I think he grew up 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:42.560 in Boyertown, which is also like only twenty five minutes 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:44.960 from here. So maybe during the off season, if he's 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:47.720 visiting his parents, we can have him on the pod 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:48.680 in the basement. 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:53.200 You never know, you Savage, You never know. And I 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:55.840 really got a kick out of the fact, Jeff, that 0:14:56.680 --> 0:15:00.800 John Schneider, the really really good manager for the Blue Jays, 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:04.880 didn't even see this kid in spring training. He was 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:09.080 so far he savage was on a backfield. He didn't 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:12.600 even know. So the guy starts to advance in the 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:15.360 minor leagues this year and John takes a look at 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:17.840 the film here and there, and then the kid shows 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:22.120 up and he goes he's way different in person. Okay, 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:25.520 and Jeff, here's the lesson. We are trying to evaluate 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:30.080 players based on a film clip or video and all 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:32.920 this stuff, which is all good. But as you know, 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:36.360 when a kid shows up, anybody shows up, and you 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:38.880 look him right in the eye and then you watch 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:44.240 him throw, it can be a completely different situation. So 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:48.520 let's please not pass judgment on anyone till we actually 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.040 meet him. Do we actually shake his hand, look him 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:53.560 in the eye, and watch him throw a bullpen? Because 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:55.720 when those guys watch him throw a bullpen, they went 0:15:55.840 --> 0:16:00.520 like this, whoa what is that? And then we saw 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:05.160 what is that? On the highest level, he just absolutely 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:07.080 dominated the New York Yankees. 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.120 And now you're hearing people say about him, he is 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:13.360 better at this than anything you will ever be in 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:14.640 your entire life. 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:17.600 Right, He is better at this than anything I have 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:20.400 ever done in my life. He is better at this 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:23.720 than anything you will ever do in your life. All right. 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:26.640 That's how many times is searching for Bobby Fisher have 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:31.320 been brought up in interviews. He's Andan Berke, Jeremy shapp I, 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:34.680 wish region times. Maybe next time we have Cowerupken Jr. 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:36.160 On We'll have to try to sneak it. 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:40.280 In right who knows all right well speak even the Yankees, Jeff. 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:42.800 Aaron Boone told me, this is the best Yankee team 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:45.760 I've ever had. And he told me that that Game 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.920 three of the wild Card Series against the Red Sox 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:52.760 was the most pressure packed game he's ever been a 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:55.600 part of. And he played in Game seven, hit a 0:16:55.600 --> 0:17:00.800 home run of the two thousand and three Alcs against 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:03.720 the Red Sox, and he played in the World Series. 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:07.480 But thinking this is the best team that we've I've 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.680 had in New York. The pressure was enormous because if 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:14.879 they didn't get through Boston, what a terrible, terrible disappointment 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:18.160 that would be. But they they really need to get going, Jeff, 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.760 because they're at this you know, they're they're down two 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:25.399 oh going into Tuesday's game. But and Aaron, Judge just 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:29.359 you just can't you can't speak without every time you 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:31.879 see him, you can't stop. So George Springer told us 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:35.040 the other day, blue Jay's outfielder, he was talking about 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.119 the best players in the game, and he goes and 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:39.959 someone said, Judge and he went like this, he doesn't 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:44.199 count like he's too good. He doesn't count, like we 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:48.439 can't even include him in the equation because he's that 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:52.520 much better than everybody else. He said, you know, I 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:56.000 just wish he would just be human once in a while, 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:58.320 is how he put it. And Aaron Boon has told 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:01.880 me multiple times here lately, this guy plays a different 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:05.760 game than everyone else, and he's going to have to 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:08.440 do that moving forward. Otherwise they're not going to get 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:11.040 past the Blue Jays, and if they do, they're not 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.160 going to get to the World Series. That's how important 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:15.280 Aaron Judge is to this team. 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:19.160 What other takeaways across beyond the series you've been covering. 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:22.240 Yeah, well, the Dodgers are really good, as I told you, Jeff, 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.520 and as of this taping, they had a one to 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:28.800 zero lead over your Phillies. And a couple things with them, Jeff. Look, 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:31.440 they scored the most runs in the National League this year. 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:36.480 They've also gone going into Tuesday Monday's game, twelve straight 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:39.720 games in the postseason scoring at least four runs. Jeff. 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:43.880 You face elite pitching in the postseason, and they've had 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:47.399 twelve straight postseason games with at least four runs. The 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:52.360 record is thirteen straight by the Orioles nineteen seventy seventy one. 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:55.240 And so this team can really hit, and they are 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:57.760 healthy again now that they have Will Smith back. But 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:01.359 Roki Sazaki has been the different prints maker there, Jeff. 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:05.520 He has pitched four innings four since he came off 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:09.240 the injured list, and right now he's their closer because 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:12.280 he throws a split finger fastball that nobody can hit. 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:15.400 It's one of the filthiest things I've ever seen. And 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:18.159 so they have taken a chance and taken a starter 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:21.560 and thrown him in the bullpen in an impact inning, 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:24.720 a high leverage inning, the ninth inning, and he looks 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:26.720 like he's been doing that for ten years. So I 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:29.560 really really like where the Dodgers are right now. 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:32.919 Yeah, if I had to make a team tim for 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:37.880 all babyface team, I think Sasaki would be my closer, 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:40.400 one of my start like would have to be on there, 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:42.239 because I mean he and I mean this with all 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:44.119 due respect as a guy who had a babyface for 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:46.919 a long, long, long long time, he doesn't look like 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:48.879 he can do what he did. He came out ut 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:51.159 of the mound and his build and his face. He 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:54.320 just looks so young and he can just punish the 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:55.560 Phillies in that final inning. 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:59.720 Well, Jeff, again, the game is open to all shapes 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:02.560 and sizes. It's one of the beauties of the sport. 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:05.720 And Roki Sazaki has filled a hole at least for 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:08.960 the moment, as the closer that the Dodgers really needed 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:11.560 to fill. Also, the Brewers to me, Jeff, you know, 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:14.200 they clobber the Cubs in Game one. We'll see where 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:16.640 that series goes. But I just love watching the Brewers play. 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:21.520 The Brewers are the National League equivalent of the Blue Jays, 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:25.520 elite defensive team. Put the ball in play more than 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:30.080 anyone else. Take the game to the defense all the time. 0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:33.280 They're running all over the place. I really like where 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:35.840 the Brewers are right now, And again, Jeff, balls in 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:38.480 play with the strikeout rate the way it is when 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:41.119 you find a team like the Brewers and the Blue 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:43.880 Jays that can put the ball in play as often 0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:46.800 as they did. One of the analysts for the Blue 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:49.159 Jays told me that when the Blue Jays played the 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:53.000 Brewers this year, it was the most fun series to 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:56.120 watch because there are two teams that mirror each other. 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:59.399 And they really play the game the right way. And 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:02.280 I know this sounds corny, but it matters today. If 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:05.480 you play a different game than everyone else, it's hard 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:08.040 to match up with you. And that's the strength of 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:11.040 the Brewers and the strength of the Mariners. By the way, Jeff, 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:13.840 is that starting pitching which we're starting to see, and 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:17.680 you know, the Tigers have matched them pitch for pitch. 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:20.240 It's been amazing. But this is also where we are 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:23.680