WEBVTT - Tom Hanks: #1 Theory Tom Uses in Order to Live a Balanced and Fulfilled Life 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.320 Sometimes life passes in the wink of an eye and 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:06.400 it's like, wow, are we here already? But there's other 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:09.200 times in that same week of an eye, you comprehend 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:09.920 it all. 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:13.480 One of the greatest and most iconic actors of all time, 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:16.400 He's started dozens of movies over his forty year career. 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:17.520 You know, I'm mean loving. 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:21.200 If you're just looking at the passer saying, man, that 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:23.920 was when it was great. I wish we could go back. No, 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:27.440 you never want to go back. You always have to 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:30.280 understand that our best days are still ahead of it. 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:32.839 Well, as you keep saying more will be revealed as well. 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:35.280 This too shall pass and more shall be revealed. 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:40.080 The number one health and Well In his podcast set 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:41.280 Jay Shetty. 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:42.800 See only. 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:49.480 Tom Hanks, Welcome to on Purpose. It's truly an honor 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:51.839 and a gift to being your presence to have you here, 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:55.440 and even the first few moments that we've just exchanged 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:59.640 a few thoughts, ideas and stories, I'm already enjoying your 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:01.639 companies so much, and I'm so grateful that. 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:02.480 You took me time to do this. 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:05.480 Kind of likewise, and I watched here, which is out 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:08.240 on November first, I have so much that I want 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:11.320 to talk about it through and through your lens. I mean, 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:14.200 I was watching it to me, the theme of home, 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:17.240 obviously is so strong and apparent, and I wanted to 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:20.560 ask you where do you feel most at home apart 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:21.000 from home? 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:24.640 Okay, all right, man, all right, let's throw deep right 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:28.520 off the bat. Because I was so many things lined 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:31.800 up with me at my age. I was the third 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:35.840 of four. Uh, my parents were very preoccupied with all 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:39.959 certain you know, like the positives and miseries of their lives. 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.720 I like to joke that they pioneered the marriage dissolution 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:46.600 laws for the state of California, you know, back they 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:50.000 got divorces, when only like Jean Jahabor you know, or 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:54.480 you know, Nicky Hilton got divorces. My home environment was 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:58.960 fluid in that we moved a lot, and we were 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:02.200 suddenly living with a whole different set of people because people, 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:05.200 you know, my parents got remarried and whatnot, so that 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:09.480 by the time I was seven, I had lived in 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:12.600 eight different homes. By the time I was ten, I 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:16.000 lived in ten different homes. And it's always been like that. 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:21.200 So I am not intimidated by it, and I don't 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.200 think I'm damaged by it at all. As a matter 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:27.359 of fact, my brother, who I did not live with, 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:31.520 he lived in the same town and in one of 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:37.040 three houses all his life. And I consider myself the 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:40.160 lucky one, you know, just just by the nature of 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:43.840 so much stuff that I've seen and so much stuff 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:50.119 that I've been able to experience and be comfortable with. Now. Look, 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:52.920 you know, I'm sixty eight. So I went through I 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:55.720 witnessed everything, you know, whatever drug thing that you want 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.800 to go. I wasn't a participantant awful lot of that 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:02.200 because I was so I was kind of like entertained 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:05.480 by the new rules of whatever we were. And here's 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:07.720 a new school, and here's a new apartment complex, and 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:10.320 now we're living in a bona fide neighborhood. And I 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:13.520 was not intimidated by all of that stuff. And I 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:17.720 was also comfortable, perhaps in a way that's not healthy 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:20.960 in some ways, of being a new guy in a 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:25.919 new circumstance, sizing up a room, sizing up a school, 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:29.480 figuring out, all right, what's the easiest way to get 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.600 comfortable here. Part of it is being open, you know, 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.640 kind of like taking over, cracking a few jokes, not 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:39.080 getting in trouble. And that's different from I would say, 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.800 like my older brother who was very shy, and we 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.360 were connected at the hip to all of this stuff, 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:47.840 and it was not great for the other members of 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:51.400 my family. But there was just something about that, the 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:55.119 roll of the dice, number three of four right there 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:57.640 when the parents are too busy with all this other 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:03.160 kind of stuff. And my siblings were not much older 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:05.280 than I was, but older than I, but they were 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:07.880 social beings long before I was. I didn't become a 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.400 social being until I was like seven years old or when. 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:13.120 And by that time I'd lived in very many places. 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:18.480 So long winded conversation, where where where do I feel it? 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:22.919 Why do I feel at home most? I'm going to say, now, 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:26.560 at the age of sixty eight, with some collection of 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:31.680 my immediate family, wherever we are, provided we are and 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:35.640 I don't mean to be good laughing, you know, provided 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:39.479 we are laughing at perhaps the absurdity of it, or 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:42.480 dealing with the cruelty of it, or sometimes just there's surreal, 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:45.360 soilistic aspect of can somebody tell me how we ended 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:50.360 up here? Exactly? Can someone? Can someone do that? Right now? So? I, uh, 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:55.440 now that's not necessarily a strength, because along with that 0:04:55.640 --> 0:05:00.960 came Dude, I travel light, and I can travel light. Emotionally, 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:04.599 I'm done. There's stuff that I cannot control. I have 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:11.480 left many wonderful atmosphere or a loving atmosphere, or a 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:16.760 friendly atmosphere. And like Ernie Banks, you know, the ballplayer 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:20.240 for the Chicago Cubs, without ever looking back, without thinking, oh, 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.719 things were really wonderful back then, I wish I was 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:26.400 back there, Jay, I don't think I've ever thought that now. 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:30.839 Is that great? Is it facile? Or is it so 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:34.800 mercurial that maybe maybe you shouldn't trust me? 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:40.279 Does it feel like it feels like it sounds like 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:41.480 a healthy detachment? 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:45.560 There is a type Okay, let's talk about that, because 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.640 there is a version of detachment that means that you 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:53.640 can navigate, say like, can I say assholes? So you 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:58.640 can navigate assholes? And you know, I think my experience 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:02.600 is about ninety percent of the people that you come 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:07.080 across pretty decent folks, five percent are assholes, and I'll 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:11.360 say five percent are sociopaths, you know, and you cannot 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:15.720 avoid that other ten percent, those two five percent, and 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:21.360 the ability to detach from those circumstances without a doubt 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:27.680 a good thing. But the habit, then I think of 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:32.000 choosing isolation from the other ninety percent, because what can 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:33.760 I rely on at the end of the day. I 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:35.520 can only rely on what I can fit in either 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:39.520 my emotional suitcase, an actual suitcase, or the back of 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:43.799 my car, and that lingers for a very long time. 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:47.720 So I think the healthy aspect of it has been 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:51.960 a grade aid to me, as well as the tendency 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.680 to want to be isolated, to not need anybody. Put 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:57.880 it that way, to not want anybody, because that's just 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:04.400 what I learned. Life is easy if you don't need anybody, 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:08.400 and it can be a lot easier if you want 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:10.800 nothing more than what's in the back of the car. 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:15.000 But that can be a solitary life, and a lot 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:18.920 of times being solitary can be confused with being lonely, 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:23.320 and lonely can being lonely can lead to anger and 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:26.960 resentments and stuff that you got to work through. And Okay, 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:29.280 at the sixty eight, you know a lot of those 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:32.040 years have been dealt with dealing with the latter and 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:33.800 enjoying the former at the same time. 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:36.080 Well, I think what you've rightly said is that there's 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:40.560 this binary feeling of if you're detached, you're lonely or disconnected, 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:44.120 or you might be at the other end codependent and 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:49.520 attached and not have the ability to operate in a 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:54.000 solitary state. So how have you danced almost so beautifully 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:56.760 between the two of being able to confidently say you've 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:58.880 been detached in the right ways, and then at the 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:01.000 same time, you have this beautiful relationship with your wife, 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:04.239 you have long term friendships with people in the industry, 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:09.600 Ron Howard, Steven Spielberg, you have. So how does that 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:12.720 dance work? Because I do think that the magic is 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:14.320 in the dance, not in the choice. 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.120 I'm going to say that I got very, very, very 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:20.560 lucky being in the right place at the right time 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:28.320 and recognizing something that was just for me. All Right, 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:30.920 you go back to let's just go back to school. 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:34.160 You know, people say show business is like high school 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:38.080 with money. High school is like show business without money. 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:42.199 You know, it truly was. And when I was, when 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:44.560 I would look, I just went to school. And my 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:47.680 joke was, we moved around so much that whenever, you know, 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.160 at the end of the school year, my dad would 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:53.160 stand me out on the driveway and say, so your 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:56.920 school is somewhere in that direction. Just walk that way, 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:58.960 and when you see kids your own age, just follow 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:02.160 them and they lead you to whatever school you are 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:05.240 supposed to go to. The school was a social kind 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:07.439 of like place for me, and every now and again 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:13.240 there might be a moment that landed in my intellectual pursuit, 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:16.480 if that makes sense. I can't say I really loved 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:19.600 going to school, but I certainly loved the hang of 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:22.640 going to school. That's a different thing. Subject matters, that 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.800 was a role of history was great. Sometimes some reading 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.160 was great. But I was no artist. I was no 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:31.360 you know, I was no mathematician. You know. I kind 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:34.280 of like geography because you could visualize a map and 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:36.840 know where like Sri Lanka was, or you know, the 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:41.320 difference between Cambodia and Thailand. But when I was in 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:44.120 high school and had no idea what I was supposed 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:47.360 to do with my time other than you know, maybe 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:50.200 go to young life, you know, hang out, you know, 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:54.760 hang out with you know, some sort of psych theological 0:09:55.000 --> 0:10:00.000 you know, brothers. But other than that, sign up for class, 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:02.920 maybe do your homework on the bus on the way 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.480 to school, and what run track? I don't know what 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:11.600 he is supposed to do. But there was a theater teacher. 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:15.079 There was a theater department at this high school. And actually, 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.959 this guy I had known since sixth grade was playing 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:24.400 Dracula in the high school play. And I said, really, 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:26.559 and so you know, we went, we went up to 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:28.720 school at night to see him. And I'd never been 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:31.240 at my high school at night. Looks different at night. 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:33.640 Right Then I sat there and there was you know, 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:36.360 a bunch of people in the auditorium, and then they 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:40.920 came out and did this play, and I thought, this 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:44.920 is school. You can do this at school. School. Isn't 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:47.720 this thing just to survive? This isn't this thing just 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.480 to fill up your time to leave as soon as 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.680 you can and get there at the lake. Oh No. 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.560 I never cut class and didn't do that because in 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:58.199 some ways the hang of school was too much fun. 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:00.360 But when I saw that there was this kind of 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:07.480 discipline that I had already been thinking of in my head, 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:11.120 that just changed everything. That just would you suddenly have 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.440 a reason to go and do something, and the reason 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:17.000 is in a pursuit of something that you cannot find 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:21.360 anywhere else. Right that I got to say my junior 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:24.360 and senior years of high school. I have been living 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:28.920 that same exact life and excitement ever since. I'm not 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:35.640 kidding the idea of auditioning for the first Like our 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:40.199 great instructor, our teacher, he wanted to do real plays 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:43.280 because he loved to do the scenic design for it. 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:47.720 So we did a Knight of the Iguana by Tennessee Williams. 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:50.840 How about that sixteen year old seventeen year old kids 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:52.880 playing Night of the Iguana that we did Shakespeare. We 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:58.720 they did musicals as well, those were always popular. But 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:02.960 suddenly having this tantalizing thing, that's like, if you have 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:06.120 an imagination and if you're not afraid of getting up 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:09.520 in front of people, which I was not. Some people 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.800 can't get up, and it was a bunt for me. 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:16.280 I did. I did it without even thinking that that gave. 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:20.440 That gave a purpose and a pursuit that was much 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:23.640 much bigger than anything else that had been in my life. 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:25.520 Now I have a friend of mine from the same era, 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:30.200 James is his name. I met him in fifth grade 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:32.040 and he said to me he was going to be 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.760 a draftsman. He was going to he was going to 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.720 be an engineer. He's going to design buildings, and he did. 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.640 That's what he's been doing all this life. I knew. 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:43.240 I knew people that at the same age. They said, well, 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:45.440 I really love to cook, and they have written cook 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:49.680 books and they've run their own catering companies. That is 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:51.880 what That's the same sort of thing that I that 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:56.360 I landed upon without really knowing it. Because my parents 0:12:56.400 --> 0:13:00.959 were divorced. I spent a lot of time I'm traveling 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:04.160 to and from, you know, where my mom lived in 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:07.560 this small town where my dad lived in Oakland in 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:11.440 the Bay Area. And those hours on a Greyhound bus, 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:14.360 starting when I was seven, seven or eight years old, 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:18.320 five hours of just daydreaming, five hours of looking out 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:21.800 the window, five hours of looking at people passing cars, 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:26.240 air trains, going by, farms and whatnot, buildings within the 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:29.720 natural preponderance. I had to sit there quietly and imagine 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:34.400 what was going on. Was that fueled me into realizing 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:37.680 that there's this thing, that there's actually a discipline and 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:41.000 a trade and an art and a what's the word 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:44.200 I'm looking for and I'll just say it again, a 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:47.040 pursuit that is, let's put on a show, Let's tell 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:50.280 a story that came along and bang. That was it. 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:53.640 And I'm telling you it's the same exact now as 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:54.280 it was then. 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:57.319 Did you write on those journeys or was it mainly. 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:02.440 I wanted to write specific glee, but I did not literally, 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.360 I did not have the I did not have the 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:10.520 scholastic example. I did not learn the tools because I 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:15.080 just wanted to fake it, you know, at the last moment. Now, 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:19.440 I started writing about about twenty years ago by just 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:23.600 incorporating the work that an actor does that is not 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:27.640 told to anybody, that is not spoken. That actually was 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:31.240 a form of writing that came about, and I was 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:34.520 sort of like instructed on how that come how that 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:38.720 comes along, but without putting it down on paper. I 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:43.760 had malleable, cohesive narratives in my head for all of 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:46.680 this stuff, and I just thought, well, isn't that what 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:49.800 everybody does. That's the way you do this, right, Because 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:51.760 it's not just showing up on time and you know, 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:56.080 learning your words and doing what you're told. There is 0:14:56.120 --> 0:15:01.880 something beyond that. And the beyond that was always fifteen 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:05.800 times greater than the actual physical showing up. I can't 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:10.360 I can't discount enough the power of the hang. You 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:12.520 want to hear a story. Here's here's the sor Okay, 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:16.640 here's the story. Darlene Love. You know who. Darlene Love is, 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:24.480 legendary singer, you know singer, A fantastic, fantastic uh motown artist, 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:28.240 among other things were I was on the Christmas show 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:30.920 of the old David Letterman Show, and every year he 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:34.920 brought her along to sing It's Christmas, this fabulous rendition 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:38.320 with a big orchestra and male choruses. I saw her 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:40.640 there and I said, oh, oh, I'd seen her on 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:42.960 the David Letterman Show for like six or seven years, 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:45.360 and I said, I met her, and I said, I mislove, 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.600 I cannot believe that I am on the show with 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:52.400 you. You are you. You have been belting out you know, 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:55.360 so so many moments of the soundtrack of my life 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:58.000 that I'm just I'm just thrilled that you're here, and 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:00.480 I'm here glad that you're still doing it. And she 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:03.320 looked at me, said, Tom, I'm just here for the hang, 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:09.280 and I got I completely, I completely got that, because 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:14.840 the hang, the interaction with everybody dealing with the attractiveness 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:18.360 of those ninety percent avoiding or learning how to negotiate 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:21.080 around those other five percent, you know, the jerks and 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:25.840 the evil people. Ain't that just living? You know? Ain't 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:27.680 that better than being alone in a room when you 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:28.840 don't have a thought in your head? 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:33.240 Well said, yeah, absolutely, I was wondering. You talked about 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:35.920 luck a lot. There can we all become a bit 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:36.520 more lucky. 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:40.360 The fellow who ran the Great Lake Shakespeare festal Vincent Dowling, 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.400 I worked for him for three years and he's the 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.200 number of people that loved that man and worked with 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:49.760 that man. He touched a great many people's lives. He said. 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:54.000 It's the most unfair business in the world. That's one 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:58.240 aspect of it, because so much of it requires being 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:03.760 in the right place at the right time, by choice 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:06.400 and by sacrifice, you know, and that's not easy to do. 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.199 I feel that I was fortunate that from as we 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:15.600 spoke about, from that upg bringing, I had no qualms about, Hey, 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:19.960 let's go. I got enough money for gas. I drove 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:23.639 across the country with four other people one time, and 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:26.160 then the next year I drove across the country by myself. 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:29.639 Did not bat deny. And there are people that listen, 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:31.760 they just can't do that, you know. There is a 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:36.639 degree of security and fear and intimidation that can go 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:41.280 along with what putting yourself in the right place at 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:44.720 the right time, and along with that will come all 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:48.959 it's a fifty to fifty. Okay, it's a fifty to fifty. 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:51.359 Have you heard this great thing? I'm no mathematician, but 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:54.560 when I heard this, I thought, that's actually a principle 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:58.600 for living. Jay. If I had a quarter and I 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:02.560 flipped it and aim up heads five times in the row, 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:05.600 what are the odds that it's going to come up 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:08.560 heads a seven times, six time, six time in a row? 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:09.879 Is it still fifty to fifty? 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:14.320 It's absolute fifty to fifty. Just because something has happened 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:17.000 doesn't mean it's going to Just because you're in a 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:20.119 place doesn't mean that's where you should be. So along 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:26.199 with luck, shouldn't the shouldn't the other requirement be faith 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:30.560 or some degree of disconnected to it. To whatever the 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:32.960 end result is going to be, you're going to have 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:35.160 to be I was. I was talking to a friend 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:38.280 of mine and he said he read somebody I don't 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:42.800 know who it was, but someone someone wrote down you 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:44.919 have to be all right with what's going to happen, 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:50.920 and I just well, okay, yeah, so yeah, all right, 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:53.159 let's let's try to do that. So you have to 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:57.760 be all right with what's going to happen, right or wrong, disaster, disease, 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:00.840 you know, whatever you have to be. You have to 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:04.840 be all right with what is going to happen with 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:08.480 some degree of faith and luck that what happens after 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:11.359 that is the best thing that could possibly be. 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:14.879 What's helped you get closer to that. That sounds hard, 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:17.520 it is, it sounds impossible. 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:22.760 Yeah, yeah, I am going to say that age in 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:27.520 all honesty experience, you know, that thing of what has 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:31.000 not destroyed me only makes me stronger. And look, let's 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:33.959 not discount the power of getting your ass kicked, you know. 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:36.680 And I'm not just you know, suddenly not professionally as well. 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:40.159 All sorts of you know, all sorts of personal things 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:43.879 go along that give you a bloody nose and bust 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:47.040 your teeth, and you have to go through those metaphysically, 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:51.159 perhaps physically. I made this movie where I wrote a 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:55.399 Scooter Vespa, and so because of that, I wrote a 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:58.840 Vespa for about two years until I realized that I 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:01.240 had been so close to kill myself on this thing 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:04.200 making a stupid missy thing that I'm going to give 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:06.680 up this vestival. This was a smart This was a 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:10.400 smart thing to do that only came about because I learned, 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:14.040 you know that, you know, sometimes a hair's breadth between 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:17.040 you know, cracking up or falling down or needing that 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:21.040 crash helmet or not. So it is a degree of 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:28.320 that experience and also being I think open to some 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:35.800 of the most basic I don't want to say philosophical truths, 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:39.439 but I have been to the Holy Land. I have 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:47.520 seen the sights that are precious, divine. I was. I 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:49.840 was actually working this a long time ago. This was 0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:52.800 before the great many of the great problems that were 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:58.280 going there. And I was driving back, being driven to Jerusalem. 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:01.600 I was with a guy and I said, Hey, so, 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:04.280 so Moche tells me, tell me tell me about where 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:06.199 we are. He says, okay, I will tell you. 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:06.679 This is. 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:09.840 We are bound by a key boots. This is a 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:11.960 very old key boots. You know key boots. Yes, this 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:13.800 is a very old one. It's been there a very 0:21:13.840 --> 0:21:17.480 long time, very popular. And uh now we are coming 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:20.719 up of a moshav. You know what is moshove is 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:25.200 not like a kaboots it's different, more more socialists, less comfortable. 0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:28.479 But this is also much like that. And people live 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:31.359 there and they work in their farm. And this is 0:21:31.400 --> 0:21:37.719 where David killed Goliath. And coming up here said well, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, 0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:42.440 whoa whoa packed the car just a little packed this side. 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:47.399 Did you just say this is where David killed Goliath? Yes, 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:50.199 he says. There's a little sign there It said in 0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:53.960 English and Hebrew and Arabic. This is well, tell me 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:58.200 about that. Okay, Well, okay, there you see the valley, yes, okay. 0:21:58.600 --> 0:22:04.360 And on one side was the the Philistines. Philistic they were. 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:09.040 They were there, okay, And David and the Israelites were here, 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:13.320 and they sent down to the middle. There the the 0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:18.480 the guillant, the the giant yes yes, the golight yes. 0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:22.120 And the David goes says, I will fight this man. 0:22:22.240 --> 0:22:27.280 And he puts the stones and he kills him, and 0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:29.440 and I said this is the place. He said, yeah, 0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:34.199 I'm not going to argue with that. Absolutely not going 0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:38.240 to argue with that. So move along. And I you know, 0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:41.640 you visit great cathedrals and whatnot have been all place 0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:43.600 around around the world, some of the great face. And 0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:46.679 we were in we were in Japan, the family and I. 0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:49.760 We had this fabulous guy that was driving us around 0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:53.360 and he took us to some Buddhist places, some Shinto shrines, 0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:56.720 and there was a big tree at one of them, 0:22:57.200 --> 0:22:59.880 uh at one of the one of the temples the shrines, 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:04.760 and people would write down prayers on these on wooden 0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:08.200 wooden signs and they would hang them up like ornaments. 0:23:08.240 --> 0:23:10.720 So this tree is just covered with a million prayers, 0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:14.440 beautiful kind of like sensibility. And he wrote down something 0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:17.120 and he hung it up and I said, you know, oh, 0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:19.600 she what did you write? This says oh, I wrote here. 0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:21.840 I'll show you. And it was in Japanese, you know 0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:25.479 the language. And he says, this, this, this means I 0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:30.920 will never know all I need to know. That's all 0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:34.080 we talked about, you know, later on, you know what, 0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:39.439 So the ongoing education of we're never going to know 0:23:39.600 --> 0:23:41.879 what we need to know more is always going to 0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:50.600