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Speaker 2: It's that time of week. My name is Bernie Fredder.

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Speaker 2: We're coming to live with tyrack dot com studios here

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Speaker 2: we are ten hours away from kickoff. Michigan Ohio State,

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Speaker 2: the greatest rivalry and all of sports started as a

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Speaker 2: land war one hundred and ten years before they even

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Speaker 2: played the football game. And I will tell you, having

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Speaker 2: covered fourteen of these, you may ask yourself, is it

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Speaker 2: really life or death? No, it's actually more important than that.

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter what the records are, the fact

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Speaker 2: that they're both ten and zero. You know, in the

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Speaker 2: history of college football, there's only been seven contests where

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Speaker 2: you get to the final week of the regular season

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Speaker 2: and both teams are undefeated. By the way, the underdog

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Speaker 2: is six to one. But like I said, it doesn't

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Speaker 2: matter what the record is between these two teams. Take

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Speaker 2: a walk down memory Lane in nineteen sixty eight, Woody

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Speaker 2: Hayes had one of Ohio State's best teams, best teams

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Speaker 2: in history. Michigan had a not so good team. As

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Speaker 2: matter of fact, their coach was about to be fired.

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Speaker 2: In the following year. Michigan would usher in both schen Beckler.

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Speaker 2: In that nineteen sixty eight game, Ohio State led late

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Speaker 2: forty two to fourteen. They score a late touchdown. Woody

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Speaker 2: Hayes lines up for two, they convert, They go up

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Speaker 2: fifty to fourteen. In the press conference, a reporter asks

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Speaker 2: Woody Hayes, you were already up forty eight to fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Why the hell would you go for two? He said,

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Speaker 2: let me go for three. That's how much these schools

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Speaker 2: hate each other. We're gonna cover this game in depth later,

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Speaker 2: I'll have history. I'll give you my pick. I'll have

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Speaker 2: the technical factors leading into this game that you want

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Speaker 2: to make note of the fundamental factors, and we'll have

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Speaker 2: it off for you. So just sit tight ten hours

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Speaker 2: recovered from your Thanksgiving and I had enjoyed your football como,

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Speaker 2: your food como. Remember Thanksgiving days, the one day of

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Speaker 2: the year that gluttony is no longer a sin. And

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Speaker 2: speaking of gluttons, speaking of gluttons, here we go again,

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Speaker 2: Dak Prescott. Yeah, mister November, mister October, mister November, light

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Speaker 2: it up. Putting up big numbers. Got a situation where

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Speaker 2: when it doesn't matter and you're playing an inferior opponent,

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Speaker 2: you can pile it up. Look great, Here come all

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Speaker 2: the accolades. You'll see, they'll have their come ups in January.

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Speaker 2: Just wait, just wait, Okay, you mad at me and

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Speaker 2: Dallas fans, well, don't tell him. He show me. And

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Speaker 2: now you tried to show me on Thanksgiving Day, and

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Speaker 2: here come again all of the You know, he can

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Speaker 2: run for mayor, he can run for governor. The bottom

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Speaker 2: line is, I would just say this when I look

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Speaker 2: at a Dak Prescott putting up big numbers on a

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Speaker 2: Thursday night against the Washington commandos who just fired their

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Speaker 2: defensive coordinator today. And I've always liked Ron Rivera, but

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's going wrong there. Frankly, be better

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Speaker 2: off with Heraldo Rivera at this point. So Dak Prescott

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Speaker 2: puts up numbers and people want to sing his praises

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Speaker 2: and say Wow, my goodness, he's so good. He's brilliant.

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Speaker 2: when Dak Prescott does that, all he's doing is piling

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Speaker 2: Well I mean by that, well, believe it or not.

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Speaker 2: True story Back in the day, Yogi Berra once went

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Speaker 2: four for four against the Boston Red Sox. The next day,

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Speaker 2: I went four for four. The editor said, relaxed, Yogi,

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Speaker 2: It's only a typographical error. Jogi said, what do you mean?

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Speaker 2: starting their fifth string quarterback. Yes, you heard that right,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to give Diana mulligan for this year. But

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Speaker 2: this story. I'm a Dion fan, but I maintained my objectivity.

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Speaker 2: So the bottom line is we're gonna chop this up.

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Speaker 2: And then down I'm gonna tell you what's going on.

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Speaker 2: In the press conference, he held he had a couple

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Speaker 2: that at midnight. Finally, just as we look back ever

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Speaker 2: on national TV against green Bay, green being on only one,

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Speaker 2: the Lions turned the ball over three times again after

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, the defense is given up ninety

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Speaker 2: they will. They just go three and three the rest

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Speaker 2: gonna have to say, same old alliance, and you don't

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Speaker 2: stay here gradually fax as facts until they break that,

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Speaker 2: you know, sixty six year drought. They won one playoff

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Speaker 2: game January fifth, nineteen ninety two. They beat the Dallas

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Speaker 2: Give it up to green Bay. They're five and six

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Speaker 2: now they beat the Lions. Butts beat him on the

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Speaker 2: I thought he was outstanding, as was green Bay's pass rush.

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love might have a higher ceiling than I thought.

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Speaker 2: eighting three. You know, did you notice the Lions are

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Speaker 2: eight and three? The Niners are eating three of the Niners. Frauds. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I get it, I get it. I just didn't turn

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Speaker 2: into Mickey the Dunce. The Lions are not the Niners,

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Speaker 2: But you can't be eight and three and be a fraud.

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Speaker 2: But the Niners are eight in three, and they prove

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Speaker 2: they're extremely legit. In fact, they're elite. They beat the

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Speaker 2: Seahawks thirty one to thirteen. Another divisional game. By the way,

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Speaker 2: you have it, a ton of stuff to get to tonight.

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Speaker 2: We've got rivalry Reek in college college football, and we're

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Speaker 2: going to talk about this Dion thing, and we've got

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Speaker 2: I can't wait. I will have a full breakdown for

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Speaker 6: How are you, Bernie? Happy Thanksgiving? And I hope you're

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Speaker 2: Right back at your pal. So, I want to talk

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Speaker 6: Yeah, at least another five to six weeks, Bernie. You

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Speaker 2: So, Allen, it's been well publicized there have been unreal

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Speaker 2: It's my understanding that the fan capacity at the race

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Speaker 2: Did you have an efficient number on what the attendance was.

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Speaker 6: I mean we've we've had these figures thrown out for

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Speaker 2: So in terms of the economic impact in total of

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Speaker 6: Like you said, and I agree with you, it was

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Speaker 2: Last question on this subject. You just got about thirty seconds.

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Speaker 2: I know the dates are set for next year November

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good question. Everyone asked me that, and

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Speaker 2: All right, Alan, Sit tight, because coming up I want

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Speaker 2: to our guy, Kevin Figures with the latest. All right, Bernie.

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Speaker 1: A couple of big college football games on the Black

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Speaker 1: Friday Slate, The nightcapsul sixth ranked Oregon beat their arrival,

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Speaker 1: of Texas Tech fifty seven to seven. They clinch a

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Speaker 1: for Iowa, Oklahoma, and Penn States. In the lone NFL

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Speaker 1: game on Friday, Miami curbsed off the Jets thirty four

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Speaker 1: have lost eleven games in a row back to Bernie Friddle.

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks Kevin. By the way, Folks, tonight show

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Speaker 2: slash match. Picking it up with Alan or s alan

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Speaker 2: Stell LV Business Sports Biz here in Las Vegas. Alan, briefly,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about the Oakland Age. We talk about it

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Speaker 2: for months. It's a FATA complete now seemingly as the

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Speaker 2: and it's my understanding there's still a lot of unfinished

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Speaker 6: Well, first of all, the workers at the Tropicana Hotel

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Speaker 6: And you're looking at demolition in about a year lately,

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Speaker 6: Well, right now, they're still moving forward with the you know, demolishing.

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Speaker 6: of the overall thirty five acre Tropicana site. So you know,

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Speaker 6: they claim it could be done. I know there was

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Speaker 6: some reports about the athletics, UH were impressed with the

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Speaker 6: Texas Rangers baseball Park, and they were kind of using

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Speaker 6: that as a potential model, but that was not built

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Speaker 6: on nine acres. I think that was built up more

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Speaker 6: than a dozen acres.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Yeah, a lot more land there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So to give people an orientation to where the

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Speaker 6: baseball park would be, if you're familiar with that corner

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Speaker 6: at Las Vegas Boulevard and Tropicana, it would be the

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Speaker 6: southeast corner. You have thirty five acres, But the stadium

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Speaker 6: itself would be built towards the back of the site,

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Speaker 6: so it would be built kind of the east side

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Speaker 6: of the site, and also on the south side of

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Speaker 6: the site. I think there's a road called Reno Avenue

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Speaker 6: that borders the site down there, so that would be

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Speaker 6: probably the closest public road. That road would probably be

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Speaker 6: closer to the stadium than Las Vegas Boulevard itself. Although

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Speaker 6: technically speaking, you're looking at nine acres on a thirty

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Speaker 6: five acre overall site at Las Vegas Boulevard and Tropicana,

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Speaker 6: and assuming that it is a retractable roof for some

450
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Speaker 6: kind of ballpark, maybe like the Mariners Ballpark, where you

451
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Speaker 6: have some kind of roof some level of climate control

452
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Speaker 6: elements because of the hot summers. It would be opened

453
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Speaker 6: beyond the outfield bleachers and you would see MGM brand

454
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Speaker 6: looking north and perhaps New York, New York looking across

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Speaker 6: that Las Vegas Boulevard Tropican intersection.

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Speaker 2: Final question, Alan, and thanks so much for your time tonight.

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Speaker 2: There are still factions that represent teachers' unions that are

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Speaker 2: efforting to block this. It seems highly unlikely that any

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Speaker 2: of those would ever be successful. Your final thoughts on that.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's true you have a state wide teachers union

461
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Speaker 6: that created a political action committee School over stadiums, and

462
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Speaker 6: they they believe that the Oakland Athletics funding bill that

463
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Speaker 6: was approved in June over I believe it was a

464
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Speaker 6: Memorial Day weekend. And while the Golden Knights are making

465
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Speaker 6: their move to win the Stanley Cup amid all that,

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Speaker 6: you had a state Senate Bill one that was approved,

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Speaker 6: and this particular pack believes there are five constitutional flaws

468
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Speaker 6: that could be exploited in that bill to possibly, you know, basically, uh,

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Speaker 6: scrub scrub that bill.

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Speaker 2: So uh.

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Speaker 6: They they did announce plans to file a lawsuit citing

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Speaker 6: constitutional problems with Senate Bill one and that is after

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Speaker 6: a judge up in Carson City did rule against them

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Speaker 6: in their attempt to get this particular funding deal on

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Speaker 6: a public ballot statewise here in the state of Nevada.

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Speaker 2: Alan, thanks so much of your time. This is obviously

477
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Speaker 2: an ongoing story, both stories, and they have you know,

478
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Speaker 2: societal economic impact here in Las Vegas and their national stories.

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Speaker 2: So we'll circle back and appreciate all your efforts and

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Speaker 2: your research.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, Bernie. They're both fascinating stories to very different sports,

482
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Speaker 6: but kind of tied to the at the hips in

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Speaker 6: the regard of the like you said, the public funding,

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Speaker 6: how much the public should pay, and also the fact

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Speaker 6: that they are on Las Vegas Boulevard. I mean, you know,

486
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Speaker 6: the very identity of this Las Vegas area is really

487
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Speaker 6: interesting to very different sports, but tied and converged on

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Speaker 6: that one issue.

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Speaker 2: You're right, Bernie, All right, Thanks, Ala, we'll talk soon

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Speaker 2: als lvsportsbiz dot Com. The aftermath of the F one

491
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Speaker 2: race who was which looked spectacular from a visual standpoint

492
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Speaker 2: on TV, but there are lots of backstories which you

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Speaker 2: can follow, and people ask about the Oaklana's They're not

494
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Speaker 2: gonna play a game here it'll twenty twenty eight, and

495
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Speaker 2: a lot has to happen in between, and we'll keep

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Speaker 2: you up to date on that. Dion Sanders was in

497
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Speaker 2: the news this week a couple of funny press conferences

498
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Speaker 2: and some interesting quotes, but the message to recruits on

499
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: nil or not an ATM, which is a bit ironic

500
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Speaker 2: since his son Shador inked another deal with Smoothie King,

501
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: which is his right. I think he's up to four

502
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 2: million dollars in valuation. Now, what's interesting to me, wasn't

503
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Speaker 2: that long ago that the Colorado Buffs began the year

504
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: three and oh they were top twenty five. They proceeded

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Speaker 2: to lose seven other last day games. Their season finale

506
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Speaker 2: against Utah Saturday. There two twenty point underdogs. Should they

507
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: lose that game. Should they lose that game, there'll be

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Speaker 2: one and eight in Pac twelve play in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: They were one on eighton Pac twelve play in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty two. Coming up at the top of the hour midnight,

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Speaker 2: we are going to open the phone lines. Want to

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Speaker 2: hear from you eight seven, seven, nine to nine on Fox.

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Speaker 2: We'll chop it up with the crew. Real simple question,

514
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna give Dion a hall pass. I'm gonna

515
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: give him a mulligan because Colorado was fun to watch

516
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: this year and the irony the transfer portal was a

517
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 2: major reason why Coach Prime was able to quickly build

518
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Speaker 2: his roster. Now that he's losing some players, he's not

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00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: reacting well. Colorado's recruiting class ranks seventieth, Colorado State's ranks

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Speaker 2: sixty seventh. We're gonna talk about that much much more.

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00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 2: We're gonna take your calls at midnight as well. But

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00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: coming up, we're gonna give you those quotes and we're

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Speaker 2: going to take a closer look at the real Colorado

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Speaker 2: Buffaloes and the reality. I'm Bernie Fraderick. Come to you

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Speaker 2: line from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio tarract dot com Studios.

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Come to live from the Tarract dot com studios here

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Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, coming up top of the hour midnight Pacific.

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Speaker 2: We want to hear from you eight seven seven nine

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Speaker 2: ninety six six three six ' nine Why Colorado Buffalo

537
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,959
Speaker 2: football is at an intersection. A lot is going on

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00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 2: there and while Dion has managed to build a hell

539
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: of a brand, and when he talks, we listen. And

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00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: the truth of the matter is Colorado has been more

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00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: sizzled in steak. And I think you know where I'm

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00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: going with that. But before we get to all that,

543
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: and there's a lot to get to, there's a lot

544
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: of layers, there's a lot to chop up, and we're

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00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: going to get to it. Dion, of course, was behind

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00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: the mic a couple of times this week. One involved

547
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,239
Speaker 2: a geography lesson, the other involved as a proclamation on

548
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: what Colorado football is not going to be going forward.

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Speaker 2: Let's give it a listen my expectations out of the

550
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: Darren Park. You got to understand me.

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Speaker 3: Come on, man, Yeah, what's the what's those little foreheads

552
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 3: that's in Californias? The people faces engraved?

553
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 3: Come on, man, I set up there is in where

555
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 3: I thought it was in La all this time. Wow,

556
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 3: my geography, that's only what that's what I thought. I'm sorry,

557
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 3: thank you educating me Jesus South and Co. We're not

558
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 3: a ATM. That's not gonna happen here. If you come

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00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 3: to Colorado to play football for me and the Colorado

560
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 3: Buffaloes because you really want to play football, receive a

561
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 3: wonderful education, and all the business stuff is going to

562
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 3: be handled on the back end. If that's the case.

563
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 3: But we are not an ATM. You're not coming here

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00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: to get rich unless you really come here with a

565
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 3: plan to go to the NFL and get your degree,

566
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 3: not to come here and be money bag yo. Okay,

567
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 3: got a wrapper, right, I got double right, right, money

568
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 3: bag yo.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I want to give Dion top credit

570
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 2: for not taking himself too seriously on the Mount Rushmore situation. Okay,

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00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 2: I know it was in South Dakota, So what that's

572
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 2: that in fifty cents to get your cup of coffee

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00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: and Dunkin Donuts. The bottom line is this, Dion is

574
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 2: a multifaceted, complex individual. I've always been a fan. Dion

575
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 2: has always been in control. Dean has always been uh,

576
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: the guy who can work a room. For the last

577
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: thirty four years, Dion was drafted a couple spaces after

578
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 2: Barry Sanders will be nineteen eighty nine NFL Draft, and

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Speaker 2: they put a microphone up to him and said, Dion,

580
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 2: how do you feel about going to Atlanta? He says, well,

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Speaker 2: I'm just glad I wasn't drafted by Detroit. If Detroit

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Speaker 2: would have drafted me, I would have asked for so

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00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: much money they would have had to put me on

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00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: a layaway. The bottom line is this, Dion understands business

585
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 2: life people, and I think he has a great grip

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Speaker 2: on how to read a room. Now he's taken an

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00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: interesting stance with respect to the future of Colorado football. Oh,

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00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 2: by the way, and the latest news it hasn't been

589
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 2: confirmed yet. I'm hearing that Dion may have another pretty big,

590
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 2: larger than life name join his coaching staff next year,

591
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 2: and that would be one Warren Sapp And at the

592
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 2: top of the I'm going to bring in the crew

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00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 2: and bringing the callers to talk about all this. What

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Speaker 2: do you expect Colorado to do next year? If they

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00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: don't build on top of this year, I got to

596
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 2: end up joining the Big twelve. I've looked at their schedule.

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00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: It's not as daunting as you might think, but it's

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Speaker 2: still a big twelve schedule. But look, Piro said it best.

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Speaker 2: In college football, it's like driving a stage coach without

600
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 2: the horses, you're not going forward. Recruiting in college football

601
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: has never been an exact science, but that's become even

602
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: more cloudy because now we have the NIL and now

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00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 2: we have the transfer portal. You don't really know what

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00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 2: the hell's going on in the mind of a seventeen

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00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: year old kid or an eighteen year old kid, because

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00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 2: all they've ever been told their entire life they're the

607
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 2: best thing. They're the greatest thing since Pepperoni pizza. And

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of unknown in recruiting. You may not

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Speaker 2: know this, but when a player commits, he starts out

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00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: as a verbal commitment. He can change his mind, he

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00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: can go elsewhere. Ironically, Dion, Well, Now, up until recently, Dion,

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Speaker 2: they hadn't really been on the wrong side of many

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Speaker 2: d commits. And now you've got other jobs, coaching jobs

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Speaker 2: opening up around the country. Some people viewing Sanders as

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00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 2: a candidate. I believe wholeheartedly he'll be back in Colorado

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Speaker 2: next year. LUs you got to consider the Buffs are

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00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 2: struggling as of late all of a sudden, Dion has

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Speaker 2: seen true of his recruits back off their pledge. The

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Speaker 2: first one was a four star wide receiver named Winston Watkins.

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Speaker 2: He basically said he had concerns whether or not Sanders

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Speaker 2: will be in Boulder by the time he's a freshman.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I believe that. I feel like

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Speaker 2: Diana will be there. But the second was a three

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00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: star offensive lineman who basically flipped to his home state

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00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 2: of Missouri to attend Missouri and all of a sudden,

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00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 2: with the shoe on the other foot now, Diiano was

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Speaker 2: asked about players changing their minds. He didn't hold back.

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00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: He said, quote, a kid ain't even faithful to his girlfriend.

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Speaker 2: You think he's going to be faithful to a school.

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Speaker 2: That's an emotional thing. What I wish the NCAA would

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Speaker 2: do is if you commit somewhere, you can't go on

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Speaker 2: other visits. You know that's not going to happen. A

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00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 2: verbal commitment is just that and most don't break it.

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00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 2: But things change, and things have changed to College Colado.

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Speaker 2: One thing about it, here we go. We're not an ATM.

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Speaker 2: That's not going to happen here. You're not coming here

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00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: to get rich unless you come here to go to

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00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 2: the NFL and get your degree. It all sounds good

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00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 2: and nothing. Dion means it on some level, but is

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00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 2: it resonating right now? Colorado only has nine commits and

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Speaker 2: they rank number seventy in the country in terms of

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00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 2: their recruiting class. It's not a top ten class. It's

643
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Speaker 2: not even a top twenty five class. It's number seventy.

644
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: And to give that some perspective, their in state rival,

645
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: Colorado State, a middle of the pack Mountain West team

646
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: who they took to overtime. They rank sixty seventh. Dion

647
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 2: did a hell of a job flipping recruits. Last year.

648
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: You saw Travis Hunter, Cormani McLain. But things have changed.

649
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: It doesn't look the same. Colorado began the year three

650
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 2: to zero. They were in the top twenty five. Then

651
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 2: they lose seven to the last eight games. They play

652
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 2: Utah Saturday. They're going to face a fifth string quarterback

653
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: in Utah. Get guess what, They're a twenty point underdog now.

654
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: Dianna has done a hell of a job in retooling

655
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 2: the image in the culture at Colorado. On the football program.

656
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 2: He does have talented players. I think his son will

657
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 2: play in the NFL at quarterback. I think Travis Hunter

658
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: a two way player, maybe the best player in the country.

659
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 2: Team speed up and down the lineup and the transfer

660
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: portal is a major reason why coach Prime was able

661
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 2: to so quickly build his roster. And despite the losing streak,

662
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 2: there are still players across the country they want to

663
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 2: come play for Deanna grow the program, but it's going

664
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: to be more difficult this time. And when you come

665
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: out and say we're not an ATM, I think people

666
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 2: might look twice because this is it. It's free agency,

667
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Speaker 2: which in I alway was never supposed to be. Eight

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Speaker 2: from you from the top of the hour. What is

671
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 2: Colorado going to do next year? Is the bloom off

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Speaker 2: the rose? Does the Emperor have no clothes? We want

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Speaker 2: to talk about that. There's a lot to unpack. Keep

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Speaker 2: we're talking about Dion Sanders Colorado this year, next year

685
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Speaker 2: atm machines. You get the drift, Kevin. We're gonna do

686
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 2: this in stages. Let's start with you in total. Now,

687
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: what is your biggest takeaway impression of the Colorado Buffaloes

688
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: in their twenty twenty three season, now that you've had

689
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 2: four full months.

690
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Speaker 1: Well ended up the way that I thought it would.

691
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, it just didn't start the

692
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: way that I thought it would, just a house of

693
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 1: fire and becoming a national sensation. But a lot of

694
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: the issues that bore themselves out as a season went

695
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: along were the issues we thought, you know, would be

696
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 1: from day one. Lack of depth and really talent upfront

697
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 1: on both lines. We knew sure Sanders was a good quarterback.

698
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: He got some FBS level type of recruiting Prowless early

699
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: on when he was a freshman, so we knew that

700
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: he'd be able to play at this level. You know,

701
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: from an overall standpoint, it's about what I expected. I

702
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: thought that they would have a better recruiting class, certainly

703
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: not sitting at sixty as we are now just about

704
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: a month away from the early signing period. That certainly

705
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: still can change. And I know he built most of

706
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: this roster, not part of it, the great majority of

707
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: it through the transfer portal, and he probably looks at

708
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: doing that again. So my assessment is this season kind

709
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: of ended up the way that I thought it would have,

710
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: just started a little bit hotter than I expected, and

711
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: I expect him to do better. Now what does better

712
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: look like next season? Maybe that means Bowl eligibility. I

713
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: think that will be a win for them in your

714
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: one going into the Big twelve, And it might not

715
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: be what a lot of people expect they considering the

716
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: sort of start they had earlier this season. But just

717
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: slow progression, I think is the best thing you can

718
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: possibly think of, despite all of the pomp and circumstance

719
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: and all the jaw you know, jabbering from a Deon

720
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: Sanders heading in hold.

721
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: I thought we're gonna come back to that, But there's

722
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: there's an eerie coincidence. Labor Day weekend they played Colorado

723
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 2: played TCU at TCU and they were a twenty point underdog.

724
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: No one expected them to win, and they did. People

725
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: like Tom Lugan Bil called it the worst roster I've

726
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: ever seen. I don't know why would people say that.

727
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 2: I made a few calls. I heard they had a

728
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 2: ton of teams speed on both sides of the ball,

729
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 2: not a lot of death like you just said, and

730
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 2: they might struggle in the trenches, which ultimately they did.

731
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 2: Fast forward to Saturday, they visit Utah. They're a twenty

732
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: point underdog, no one expects them to win. The dynamic

733
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: around the team is slightly different. Did Colorado put a

734
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,959
Speaker 2: target on their back? Is that why that happened? What happened? Kevin?

735
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: In your view?

736
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: Well, look, they definitely put a target on their back,

737
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: and to a certain degree, I'd say from a players standpoint,

738
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 1: at least early on, no fault of their own, because

739
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: look if they had come out and got the doors

740
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: blown off of them early on against TCU, and nobody

741
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: would have paid attention. You know, Deon Sanders wouldn't have been,

742
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 1: you know, shouting all all these superlatives I told y'all

743
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 1: so and all this sort of stuff that never would

744
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: have been a thing. So it's it's like an unfortunate

745
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: situation for them, and that they came out so hot

746
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: and played so well early on instead in unrealistic expectations

747
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: of the program for the remainder of the season. And look,

748
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 1: they started out so hot and then eventually i'd say

749
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: by week seven eight nine, they just kind of disappeared

750
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 1: off the face of the earth because they looked so bad.

751
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: Even look, even they go back to the USC game

752
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: where they compete at their tails off offensively and almost

753
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 1: had a chance to come back and win that game.

754
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: You just knew when they played better composition they had

755
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 1: no shot.

756
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: And I do agree they never stopped competing, and the

757
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: season would have looked a lot dire from if they

758
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 2: had lost that overtime game to Colorado State, which they

759
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 2: came dangerously close to doing even though they were a

760
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 2: big favorite. And I think the real tipping point in

761
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 2: the season was when they lost to Stanford after coughing

762
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 2: up that big lead. But It's interesting because in retrospect,

763
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 2: I think your points taken the ultimately the end up

764
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 2: being sort of a victim of their own success after

765
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 2: beating TCU and come out of the gate three and

766
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 2: oh and ranked in the top twenty five. Mark Ramsey,

767
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: when you look at the Colorado Buffaloes in total, now

768
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 2: we have a season under their belt, what is your

769
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 2: knee jerk reaction? What is your overall impression of this

770
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: whole situation?

771
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Speaker 7: My view from the couch watching TV sometimes is the

772
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 7: intensity that Dion has. You can't teach that to the players.

773
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 7: We all know what Dion was as a player, but

774
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 7: that does not transfer to the students and the players.

775
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 7: They're going to have to am I nobody needs to

776
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 7: hear from the opinion.

777
00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: They have to.

778
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 7: Redo the because they got scored on constantly. Even though

779
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 7: they were winning games, they would lose games because the

780
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 7: defense didn't hold up. So to transfer some sort of

781
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 7: d On intensity to the players is one thing We

782
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 7: do the defense, and you know, try to make an

783
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 7: effort to be.

784
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: The kind of player that you need to be to

785
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:22,479
Speaker 1: win a game.

786
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 2: All right, fair enough, shit, I want to hear your

787
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 2: thoughts on Colorado.

788
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 8: They one I agree with Kevin got In the beginning

789
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 8: of the year. I remember when I was watching that

790
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 8: TCU game, and I'm pretty sure everyone, not only myself,

791
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 8: was like, Wow, these guys are legit. Like I remember

792
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 8: watching Dion and watching the press conference after that, and

793
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 8: then even after the Nebraska game, and then and then

794
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 8: after the I think it was the Colorado State game

795
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 8: and they beat them too, and I was like, all right, like,

796
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 8: these guys are legit. And then the reality hits in

797
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 8: Oregon sc and then they only win by three against

798
00:45:55,640 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 8: my ASU, So I started understanding kind of like right, like,

799
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 8: I think this is kind of just a train stop

800
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 8: for Dion definitely, and the players that are there right

801
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 8: now kind of got lucky because Dion is there. I mean,

802
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 8: I knew that this is like after watching that USC

803
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 8: even after watching that ASU game, I kind of knew

804
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 8: that this wasn't this was kind of like a fairy

805
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 8: tale almost, and it wasn't going to last forever, which

806
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 8: it did, to be honest, But I mean, I have

807
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 8: no hit against Deon. He's a great coach with what

808
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 8: he had in the beginning of the season to get

809
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 8: wins against teams and honestly put up numbers against team

810
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 8: against USC. I think it was like forty eight to

811
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 8: forty one, which it isn't horrible, but still like, yeah,

812
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 8: their defense is horrible. Like still, USC is a top

813
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 8: top People were saying it was a top ten team

814
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 8: before in the beginning of the season. So I mean,

815
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 8: just what he's done is pretty remarkable. But again, players

816
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 8: are going to be leading no matter what. They're going

817
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 8: to do what's best for them. And I think Deon's

818
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 8: going to do what's best for him too as well.

819
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 8: And I don't think the Buffaloes are going to really

820
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 8: see him for at least maybe two more years.

821
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: Even Let's go around the room one more time. This

822
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 2: is an important question. And I say this from the

823
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 2: standpoint of having a lot of respect for Dion and

824
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 2: I'm actually a fan. Does he have the temperament to

825
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 2: do this? I know that I saw him with throwing

826
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: a lot on the sidelines. I think he gives his

827
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 2: heart and soul into it. He's all you know. He

828
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 2: played in the World Series, in the Super Bowl and

829
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl. He's an interesting guy. Deon Sanders, I

830
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 2: truly believe that. I think he's a very bright guy.

831
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 2: But there are horses for courses, and I'm not so

832
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: sure when you slice it all up, he's suited to

833
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: be a college football coach. And you see his recent

834
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 2: comments about we're not going to be an ATM. Fair enough,

835
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 2: but you don't really need to say that. You don't

836
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 2: really need to say that. And in terms of last year,

837
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 2: were coming to now trying to talk you know, players

838
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 2: out of leaving, so on and so forth. The dynamic

839
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 2: has changed. Before we get to the crew again, quickly,

840
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 2: let's go out to the phone lines. Mike from New York.

841
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: He wants to talk about Dion. Mike, Mike, what are

842
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 2: your thoughts about this Colorado of Buffalo situation?

843
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 9: Well, first of all, I lived the car for twelve

844
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 9: years and Boulder is about thirty miles west of Denver.

845
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: Right, do you had put as you see you back

846
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: on that?

847
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 9: Because Nigida touch Burbank and mcnuwaizel and just the fact

848
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 9: that do you have to put the football program back

849
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 9: on of that is a good thing?

850
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 6: What do you say? Bernie?

851
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: First, thanks for calling in, and I agree with you.

852
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: He absolutely put Colorad of football back on the map.

853
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: In September. It was the toughest ticket in town. You

854
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 2: had a list celebrities there and they were performing on

855
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: the field, and people would ask me, do I think

856
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 2: they're legit? Yeah? You got a first round quarterback in

857
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 2: Shodoor Sanders. You got maybe the best two way player

858
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 2: in the country in Travis Hunter, and you've got speed,

859
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: tons of speed on both sides of the ball, and

860
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 2: you got a coach who is a rock star coach.

861
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,959
Speaker 2: People wanted to see it. This is America. We don't

862
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 2: have royalty in this country. Our athletes are entertainers. They

863
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: are our royalty. Colorado became football royalty. But it's fickle.

864
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 2: We're fickle in this country. Every day a new star

865
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 2: is born and then the earth rotates and twenty four

866
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 2: hours later, someone who was on top of the world

867
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 2: is on the bottom. But to your point, I agree

868
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 2: with you completely. Dion restored what I would consider to

869
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 2: be dignity and attention to the Colorado football program as

870
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 2: they ended the Big Twelve. So the question I have

871
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 2: is does he stay? I definitely know he's staying next year,

872
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: and it feels like I'll stay a third year, but

873
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 2: is he there for the long term? Kevin figures your thoughts.

874
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: That's hard to tell. I need to see another year

875
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: under his belt. One thing I will say, whether or

876
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: not he has a temperament for the job, I think

877
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: that's inconclusive. And really throughout his career, playing career, coaching

878
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: career at the high school and then at Jackson State,

879
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: he really hasn't faced a whole lot of adversity. Played

880
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 1: for a couple of bad teams with Atlanta, but pretty

881
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: much once he went to Dallas in San Francisco, I mean,

882
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: he was pretty much winning the remainder of his playing career,

883
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,479
Speaker 1: and I really continued early on in his coaching career

884
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: as well. Now, look, I think what you would like

885
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: to see if you're a Colorado Buffalo fan, is that

886
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: maybe he was humbled a little bit, you know, even

887
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: through all of the bravado what he says publicly. And look,

888
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: I do think behind all of that, if you're going

889
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: to be that outspoken in that branch publicly, you know

890
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:36,919
Speaker 1: you're going to have to work that much harder behind

891
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: the scenes. It's rare that someone who talks as much

892
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 1: as someone like he does, or Floyd Mayweather or those

893
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: types of you know people, you know, they're usually the

894
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: hardest workers behind the scenes because they don't want to

895
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: make a fool of themselves. So I have no doubt

896
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: that Deon Sanders is going to work as hard as

897
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: he possibly can to try to turn this thing around

898
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: and get them to a point that he wants to

899
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: get them to. Now, whether or not he has the

900
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: staying powers to be able to do that, it remains

901
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: to be seen. But the microscope is going to be

902
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: on him going into the very next season, and I'm

903
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 1: super eager to see how they look going into next

904
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: year coming off of this year's If you want to

905
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: call it a disappointment, we certainly can based on how

906
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: they started.

907
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 2: Fair enough, Mark, do you think Dion's long for the

908
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 2: job at Colorado?

909
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 7: I think he wants to stay around because of the

910
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 7: success that he's had as a player. I think he

911
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 7: wants to try to have that kind of the same

912
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 7: success as a coach, the one who builds the team,

913
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 7: who influences lives and makes you know, great decisions and

914
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,919
Speaker 7: helps other people get to where they want to get

915
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 7: in their athletic life. I think he wants to stay

916
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 7: and maintain and get better and better with time spent

917
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 7: dealing with and building up all the teammates.

918
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 2: I hope syl because that excitement and that notoriety and

919
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 2: that you know, showtime ask you know atmosphere around the

920
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 2: Boulder and the call is right. Boulder is a need

921
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,479
Speaker 2: area and it's it's you know, it's thirty five minute

922
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 2: drive from Denver. It's spectacular. I think if Dion wants

923
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 2: to and he commits and says I'm here for the

924
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 2: long haul, that feeling that everybody had in September can return.

925
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 7: With that condim enthusiasm that he has, he can you know,

926
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 7: still bring that and I don't mean like force it,

927
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 7: but he can enhance what they have as players and

928
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 7: get them on track to be better teams.

929
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 2: True, but here's the kicker. They're going to have to win.

930
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 2: And you saw how it dropped like an anvil and

931
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: a bugs Bunny cartoon in October after they stopped winning.

932
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,919
Speaker 2: And they're going to have to win. And you look,

933
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 2: kids are kids, and they're kids. You know, your quarterback's

934
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: gonna walk across the field and flash his rolex in

935
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 2: somebody's face. You're gonna talk. You're gonna this man. They

936
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 2: disrespected us, but you're you're you're still gonna have to win,

937
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 2: all right, Shay you got the last word. Is Dion

938
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 2: in this for the long haul?

939
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: So I kind of already said it.

940
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 8: I really think he has two years, maybe even three

941
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 8: years here and he'll be on to the next best thing.

942
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 8: I mean that's something Dion's been doing his entire career,

943
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 8: from his coaching career to his playing career. I mean,

944
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 8: he has no problem. He never voiced, oh, I want

945
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 8: to stay with these guys. I want to make these

946
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 8: guys the best, Like I have a like I have

947
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 8: a loyalty to these guys. That was never him, you

948
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 8: know what I mean. It was kind of like, I'm

949
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 8: here to play football and whoever wants it gets it.

950
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 8: And it was in regards to coaching. Now I feel like,

951
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 8: even especially with Jacksonville, he went on to the next

952
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 8: best thing. And then now with Colorado Boulder, I mean yeah,

953
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 8: like it's college game day showing up, it's a big deal.

954
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 8: I don't think I don't even remember last time college

955
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 8: a game day was at Boulder, Colorado.

956
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 2: But if.

957
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 8: I know, which is crazy, but think about this. Let's

958
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 8: say he goes to the LSU's he moves on to

959
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 8: even the NFL. I mean, who's I don't think he'll

960
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 8: say no to that, you know what I mean. And

961
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 8: with so much hype around his name and people always

962
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 8: doubting him and him always kind of proving the doubters

963
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 8: wrong and making it happen. I really do think that

964
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 8: this guy will move on either to the NFL or

965
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 8: onto another team that's bigger and better.

966
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 2: Well. I will always defend Dion for taking advantage of opportunity.

967
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 2: I think he was unfairly excoriated when he left Jackson State.

968
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 2: He was there three years, he restored that program, He

969
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 2: did a fabulous job. Don't ever, you know, be smirch

970
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: a man for taking advantage of opportunity. And if you

971
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 2: really want my honest feelings about this, even before he

972
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: was hired at Jackson State, I believe Florida State should

973
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 2: have interviewed or interviewed him or hired him. They should have.

974
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 2: I even, you know, when it looked like sc was

975
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 2: gonna fire their coach three four years ago, I thought

976
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 2: Dion should be considered a USC Look what he did

977
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 2: at Colorado. Okay, it's incredible what he did there, It's insane.

978
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 8: I really wanted him to go to SU because if

979
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 8: you remember, all that stuff was going on, with Ram

980
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 8: Edwards and I was like, oh my god, like this

981
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 8: is a great scenario. And half the people there were

982
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 8: kind of split on it. It was kind of do

983
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 8: we want him or do we on him? And our

984
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 8: president Michael Crowe I hate the guy. He didn't end

985
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 8: up going for him, but I mean I regret it.

986
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 8: We have Dilla Shawn now, who isn't horrible. Don't get

987
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 8: me wrong, I love him, but I wish we had

988
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 8: Dion just because of the culture he brings, the money,

989
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 8: he brings, the nil he just brings too much.

990
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 2: It ended up working out at Florida State, but Dion

991
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 2: is one of the most you know, notorious, and I

992
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 2: say that in a good way. Florida State lumps and

993
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 2: so with the resources you have in Florida State, which

994
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 2: are decidedly more than you have in Colorado, and the

995
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 2: resources he would have had at USC, yeah, I would

996
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 2: like to see that to that. In my final thought

997
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 2: on this is I do hope Dion is there for

998
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: the long haul because it's you know, Rome wasn't built

999
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 2: in the day. Just ask Lincoln Riley, Okay, just ask

1000
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh. They're beating their chest right now, but everybody

1001
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 2: forgets he lost to Ohio State the first five years

1002
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 2: in a row, and I think Michigan ducked Ohio State

1003
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 2: during the COVID year. They would have lost that year too.

1004
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 2: Hardball's won and six in bowl games. He's two and

1005
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 2: five in against O House. Look what he's done now though,

1006
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 2: he's got a shot to go to the playoff for

1007
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: the third year in a row and beatle House State

1008
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 2: for the third year in a row. To that end,

1009
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 2: it's rivalry game Saturday. Finally, this has been such a

1010
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 2: moribun season. When it comes to upsets, you're at Chris

1011
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 2: Plank and Arnie. These guys do a great job talking about, Hey,

1012
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 2: what are the big upsets year? There haven't been to me,

1013
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 2: there's a chance maybe for there to be some on Saturday,

1014
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 2: and it is presumed that if a House State does win,

1015
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 2: that would be an upset. But it's not the only

1016
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 2: rivalry game coming up. We dive heavily into rival Easy

1017
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1018
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1025
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1027
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1031
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1045
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Speaker 2: Went back on the Bernie Fattles Show Fox Sports Radio

1046
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1047
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, eight hours and thirty four minutes away

1048
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 2: till Ohio State Michigan kicks off. And the beauty of

1049
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 2: the games this weekend is they're going to have a

1050
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 2: huge say on whether these combatants A make their conference

1051
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 2: championship game, which in turn has a big dramatic effect

1052
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 2: on whether they eventually make the four team College Playoff,

1053
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 2: which I call the four team Made for TV Invitational tournament. Now,

1054
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 2: next year, when the playoff expands to twelve teams and

1055
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 2: conference champions chips games, well they're gonna look a lot

1056
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 2: different because the Big ten is gonna have new teams,

1057
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 2: and the SEC is gonna have new teams, and the

1058
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 2: Big twelve is gonna have new teams. But we'll still watch,

1059
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 2: and the beauty of it is that it's gonna be

1060
00:58:58,120 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 2: as much of an invitational. That's what makes this fun

1061
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 2: year maybe even that much more interesting. And at the

1062
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 2: end of the show. With ten minutes to go. On

1063
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 2: the show, I'm gonna give my full handicapping breakdown between

1064
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 2: Ohio State and Michigan and my prediction, the technical factors

1065
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 2: surrounding this game, the fundamental factors surrounding this game, some stats,

1066
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 2: a couple backstories, and we'll give it our best shot.

1067
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what I think is likely to

1068
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 2: happen here in about eight and a half hours when

1069
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 2: it kicks off. So we'll start there just with a

1070
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 2: generality the stakes. Look, there's no game this week, and

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00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 2: it has more significance regionally and nashally. This game has

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00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 2: been played one hundred years, and I don't care if

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00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 2: both teams are five and five or two and eight,

1074
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 2: which never happens of course, because they're gonna You want

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00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,479
Speaker 2: to win this game so badly. If you have any

1076
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 2: idea the folks in this area that the damn rivalry

1077
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 2: started as a as a land war back in seventeen

1078
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 2: to eighty seven Toledo. It was supposed to be part

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00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 2: of Michigan. But that's not the point. The point is

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00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 2: these two schools genuinely hate each other. Watch tomorrow if

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Speaker 2: you happen to watch a particular show with with Desmond

1082
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 2: Howard a bet a million dollars. Demon Howard doesn't pick

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01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 2: Ohio State to win. I mean, no one is objective

1084
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Speaker 2: about this rivalry. Okay, the winner and the beauty of

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Speaker 2: it is. And you know it's interesting because in the

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01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 2: history of college football or check that, not the history

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01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 2: since nineteen eighty seven, there will have been seven matchups

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01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving weekend where both teams are undefeated. That's it

1089
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 2: doesn't happen that often, and the underdog is six to one.

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01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 2: There's a tease. But the beauty of this game, in

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Speaker 2: addition to how much these schools hate each other want

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01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 2: the bragging rights, is the winner they claim the Big

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01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 2: East Division title. They'll play Iowa next week in Indianapolis.

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01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 2: They'll be heavily favored. I think either team would be

1095
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 2: a minimum seventeen point favorite. The winner of that game, well,

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Speaker 2: they're probably getting the college football playoff spot and it'll

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01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 2: be their Ohio State or Michigan. A loss, I'm certain

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Speaker 2: it'll not Ohiose State. Check that Michigan out of the

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01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 2: college playoff picture positive due to their strength of schedule.

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01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 2: Can't deny that, sorry, but could keep Ohio State outside

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01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 2: the top four as well, and I believe it could.

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01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 2: And you know, if you want just a quick tease,

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01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 2: it's going to come down to quarterback play clearly, clearly,

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01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 2: and Jim Harbor will not be on the sideline. Clearly.

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01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy is not performing the same without Jim Harball.

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01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 2: There the numbers don't lie. Less yards perten, the yards

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Speaker 2: per play, yards per game. Mischief was averaging forty four

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01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 2: points a game with Harball on the sidelines or everything

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01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 2: thirty one without JJ McCarthy's throwing four interceptions during the

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01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 2: time Harball's been out, didn't throw a single interception. Why

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01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 2: did they run the ball thirty two times against Penn State?

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01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 2: They had to. They can beat their chest about that

1113
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 2: all damn day long, and they won't do it tomorrow.

1114
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 2: And they're sure as hello, I'm gonna do it against Georgia.

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01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 2: They couldn't protect they could not protect JJ McCarthy from

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01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 2: Penn State's two elite pass rushers, well State's two lead

1117
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 2: pass rushers as well. But it's also gonna come down

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Speaker 2: to the other quarterback, Kyle McCord. He's gonna have to

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Speaker 2: play clean and this would be the biggest game he's

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Speaker 2: ever been in JJ's benningson big games. Hold that thought

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Speaker 2: into the show. I'm gonna give you my full handicap.

1122
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 2: But there are plenty of other rival games on Saturday,

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Speaker 2: and we're gonna get to those coming up. But first

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Speaker 2: let's go to our guy who always molly wops it,

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Speaker 2: Kevin Figures with the latest Hi.

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Speaker 1: Bernie was Since we're talking rivalries in college football, had

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01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: a couple of rivalry games on Friday as well. Six

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Speaker 1: Rink Oregon, dominating Oregon State thirty one to seven. The

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01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: Ducks advance to the Pac twelve Championship game. They'll take

1130
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,479
Speaker 1: on Washington next weekend. Texas headed to the Big twelve

1131
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: title game. They mollywop Texas as you mentioned, fifty seven

1132
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 1: to seven Texas Tech. That is Penn State shout out

1133
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: Michigan State forty two to nothing. You also had victories

1134
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 1: from Missouri, Oklahoma, and Iowa. Sooners still alive for the

1135
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 1: Big twelve title race, although they need Oklahoma State to

1136
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: lose to BYU coming up later today. In the lone

1137
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: NFL game on Friday, the Dolphins dominated the Jets thirty

1138
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: four to thirteen. Ten Bo got the start behind center

1139
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: for New York. He threw for just one hundred and

1140
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: seventy nine yards. He was intercepted twice and sacked seven times.

1141
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: A couple of games on the NBA slate from Friday,

1142
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: Pelicans won sixteen and the Clippers won oh six. Zion

1143
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: Whims send thirty two points, leading New Orleans to their

1144
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 1: third straight win. The Warriors ended the Spurs their eleventh

1145
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: consecutive loss, one eighteen to one to twelve. The final

1146
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 1: there Steph Curry scoring a game high thirty five points,

1147
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: thirty six points for deeron Fox at the Kings beat Minnesota,

1148
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: a career high thirty nine points for Brook Lopez, and

1149
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 1: a Bucks victory over Washington. He had wins for the

1150
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 1: Pacers and Knicks, and the Rockets, who hammered Denver one

1151
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: oh five to eighty six. Back to Bernie Frittles.

1152
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 2: All right, thanks, buddy, appreciate it. Let's start with Georgia,

1153
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 2: the defending the two time defending national champion, currently ranked

1154
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,479
Speaker 2: number one, their twenty four point favorite on the road

1155
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 2: at Georgia Tech. Game will kickoff seven thirty Eastern, and

1156
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 2: Georgia is looking like a team that is sending a

1157
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 2: message to the rest of the country. Who who's playing

1158
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 2: for second place? All right, Georgia. I believe his is

1159
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 2: a virtual lock to go to the playoffs as long

1160
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 2: as he beat Alabama in the SEC title game. Because

1161
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 2: now it's not gonna happen. But Georgia can actually lose

1162
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 2: to Georgia Tech on the road Saturday, and then they

1163
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 2: turned on to beat Alabama. They're in the playoff, but

1164
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 2: why take any chances? Georgia I think is locked in.

1165
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 2: You've gotta love the way Kirby smart and they'd conduct

1166
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 2: their business down there in Athens. They're trying to be

1167
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 2: the first team to win three national titles since Minnesota

1168
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 2: did it from thirty four to thirty six. But it

1169
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 2: wasn't decided on the field then, all right, it was

1170
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 2: decided by voters. That's why I've always believed Georgia could

1171
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 2: do it this year. By the way Georgia has dominated

1172
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech, they've won eighteen in the last twenty one games.

1173
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 2: I expect Georgia to run the ball will I expect

1174
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 2: him to force turnovers and there's just not going to

1175
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 2: be a lot of drama there. The Apple Cup Washington

1176
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 2: eleven or zero very impressive this year. They're sixteen point

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01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 2: favored against the visiting Washington State team. I think you

1178
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 2: can sort of look ahead to next Friday, December first,

1179
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 2: it will be the Pac twelve championship game. Oregon is

1180
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 2: in Washington wins Saturday. They're in that game kicks off

1181
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 2: four thirty eastern on Fox. For Washington, it's simple a

1182
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 2: college football playoff berth. It's very much on the line,

1183
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 2: but you lose to a team and a losing record,

1184
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 2: and it slights out. Forget it. The game comes at

1185
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 2: a unique time too, in these two schools history, because

1186
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 2: why will the Huskies They're set to depart for the

1187
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:43,959
Speaker 2: Big Ten. The Cougars they remain, along with Oregon State,

1188
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 2: two schools out of country, although I'm hearing that they

1189
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 2: will join the Mountain West. May not be optimal, but

1190
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 2: at least it's a start. Washington, though, they've got to

1191
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 2: sharpen their acts in this game. They need to eliminate

1192
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 2: the equalizers like turnovers, penalties, menial mistate. As long as

1193
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 2: they do that, I think Washington should have no trouble

1194
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 2: the Cougars. They're not bad, but they've been very inconsistent.

1195
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 2: They started out fourid no since then, they're one and six.

1196
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 2: It's almost like two different seasons.

1197
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 3: You know.

1198
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 2: However, you cannot discount you cannot discount Washington State because

1199
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 2: they outplayed Oregon State and they're coming off a very dominant,

1200
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 2: lopsided win against Colorado. All right, Florida State at Florida.

1201
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 2: Florida State still with their new quarterback. He was going

1202
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 2: to be the air apparent anyway, Tate Rodemaker. Florida State

1203
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 2: has fallen out of the top four. They're laying six

1204
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 2: and a half at Florida. This is a dangerous game

1205
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 2: down on the swamp Florida State. For them to keep

1206
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 2: their college football playoff hopes alive, they have to find

1207
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 2: and went away in Gainesville. And by the way, they

1208
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 2: haven't won there since twenty seventeen without Jordan Travis. He's

1209
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 2: out for the season with his leg injury. It's a

1210
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 2: higher stakes game. These two schools don't like each other.

1211
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 2: Bull stakes on the line. By the way, the Gators,

1212
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 2: how did I bury this lead? They're only five and six.

1213
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 2: They need to win to be Bowl eligible, and you

1214
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 2: know they want to be you know, billion Apier wants

1215
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 2: to be. I look at it this way. I think

1216
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 2: Florida State wins as long as a new quarterback, Tate

1217
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 2: Rodemaker is allowed an offensive scheme and a lot on

1218
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 2: offensive playbook that keeps them comfortable from the start. Florida

1219
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 2: State could run the ball. If Trey Benson can run

1220
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 2: the ball, you know, Rodamaker won't have to force the issue.

1221
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 2: Florida State. One of the reasons they're eleven at all

1222
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 2: is they've only lost five turnovers all season. That's the

1223
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 2: fuse in the country. So Ronnamaker's got a bunch of

1224
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 2: skilled players around him, receivers, tight ends, et cetera. Now,

1225
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 2: Florida State hasn't been great in stopping the run. That's

1226
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 2: the strength of Florida's offense. And the Gators have a

1227
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 2: new started quarterback too, Max Brown, so they're going to

1228
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 2: have to pressure him. Florida State is a six and

1229
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 2: a half point favorite. That game, I believe is going

1230
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 2: to be hotly contested. You already saw what happen between

1231
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 2: Oregon State and Oregon Friday night. It was clearly a

1232
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 2: revenge game for Oregon who'd lost to Oregon State last year.

1233
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 2: They pounded him thirty one to seven. Oregon I believe well,

1234
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 2: I believe Oregon and Georgia are the two best teams

1235
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 2: in the country because they're both prolific offensively and they're

1236
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 2: both well. Georgia is off the chart defensively. Oregon is

1237
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 2: very underrated defensively. They're far more physical than people realize.

1238
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 2: They ran a very clever offensive scheme, and I will

1239
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 2: tell you they're physical. They're more physical than people give

1240
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 2: them give them credit for. Dan Lanning's done a hell

1241
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:50,799
Speaker 2: of a job there. Of course, he came from the SEC.

1242
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 2: You saw what happen with Texas and Texas Tech. Texas

1243
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 2: made a statement fifty seven to seven. Somebody actually predicted

1244
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 2: Texas Tech would win. We will not mention their name.

1245
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 2: Somebody I respect, by the way, arch Manning. I know

1246
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 2: it was fifty to seven when he came in. He

1247
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 2: gets the ball out of his head. Man, he's got

1248
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 2: a nice zip on the ball, very decisive, showed us

1249
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 2: some elusiveness like his grandfather, Archie, turned the corner, ran

1250
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 2: for a first down. I know it was garbage time,

1251
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:27,440
Speaker 2: but I tell you what I might owe. Steve Sarkisian apologies.

1252
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 2: First ever double digit the season win. He's eleven to one. Now,

1253
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 2: remember Texas beat Alabama and Alabama. And you know already

1254
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 2: asked me last night when he was out with VJ,

1255
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 2: who do I think will be the final four?

1256
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 5: Well?

1257
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 2: I think you know, Georgia is gonna be there. I

1258
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 2: just don't think Bama will beat them. So there's your

1259
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 2: SEC champion. Go to the PAC twelve. If Oregon beats Washington,

1260
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 2: I think they're in. If Washington beats Oregon, they're twelve.

1261
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 2: And oh how do you keep the PAC twelve twelve

1262
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 2: OZH champion out? So those two are spoken for? I

1263
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 2: think the AC is going to get left in the dust.

1264
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 2: Whinever House State Michigan is in, which he's the last one.

1265
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 2: How do you not give it? If Texas, I'm assuming

1266
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 2: they're gonna play Oklahoma State. Texas will play Oklahoma State

1267
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,560
Speaker 2: next week in the Big twelve championship game. And the

1268
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 2: only way that wouldn't happen is if BYU upsets Oklahoma

1269
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 2: And I think BYU is what check that BYU upsets

1270
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State, I believe they're like a seventeen point underdog.

1271
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 2: Is that what happened? Then you'd have a rematch in

1272
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 2: Texas in Oklahoma, which I'm sure Texas would love. That's

1273
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 2: their only blemish, and actually they might have been the

1274
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 2: better team that day. We'll but give it up to Oklahoma.

1275
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 2: So if Texas goes twelve to one and wins the

1276
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 2: Big Twelve, do you take a twelve and one Texas

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Speaker 2: team in that Big twelve gonment over Florida State even

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Speaker 2: if they're undefeated. I think the committee would because it's

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Speaker 2: made for TV invitational tournament. You know, it is Alabama

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Speaker 2: Auburn and the Iron Bowl. Has this game lost some luster? Well?

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Speaker 2: I would have to say yes, Hugh Freeze having some

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Speaker 2: issues having some struggles down there. Alabama was a two

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Speaker 2: touchdown favorite on the road at Auburn, and since losing

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Speaker 2: at home the aforementioned Texas Long Horns in Week two,

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Speaker 2: BAM has won nine in a row and they've looked

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Speaker 2: good doing it. They have already clinched an SEC Championship

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Speaker 2: game spot against Georgia on December second in Atlanta. This

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Speaker 2: game doesn't impact Alabama's chance to win the SEC title,

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Speaker 2: but if they lose, they get that second loss. They're

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Speaker 2: not going to the playoff no matter what. The Committee

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01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 2: will not take a two loss team. BAM was a

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Speaker 2: two touchdown favorite. I do believe they take care of business,

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Speaker 2: it could be a shaky for a while. But if

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Speaker 2: I know Nick Saban, I think they understand. They might

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01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 2: even want to rack up a few more I test

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Speaker 2: points as they get ready for their showdown next week

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Speaker 2: against Georgia, which I think will be a hard fought game.

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Speaker 2: But even if Alabama wins their new next two games

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Speaker 2: over Auburn and Georgia, that doesn't ensure a playoff spot.

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Speaker 2: Remember Alabama was on the outside looking last year and

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Speaker 2: SABA was upset. They were a two lost team with

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Speaker 2: Alabama have beaten TCU, maybe, but that's not how it works.

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Speaker 2: It's not how it works. So you're gonna get max

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Speaker 2: effort out of Alabama. It's still the Iron Bowl still,

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Speaker 2: And so the bottom line is this, every one of

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Speaker 2: these teams, it's almost like the de facto playoff has

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Speaker 2: started Saturday, because if any of these teams stumble, they

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Speaker 2: not only may not make their conference championship game, but

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Speaker 2: not only that, you might have a situation where they

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Speaker 2: don't you know, they get that loss, They get to

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Speaker 2: the conference championship game, but they lose you know, brownie

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Speaker 2: points in the eyes of the committee. Because this thing

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Speaker 2: has been made of the Michigan cheating saga, I want

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Speaker 2: to share something with you. The phenomenon of cultural cheating

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01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 2: in college football has been going on a lot longer

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Speaker 2: than you think I'm gonna explain. You want to hear this.

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Speaker 2: I'm Bernie fradderwer Company live from the Las Vegas Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio Tirat dot com studios. Keep it locked right here.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Hire're back on the Bernie Fradles Show, Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: Comedy live from the Tyrat dot com studios here in

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas. I can hear it now. Regardless of the

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01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 2: outcome of the Michigan Ohio State game Saturday, if Ohio

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01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 2: State wins. Of course, you know Michigan people, well, Harball

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01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,679
Speaker 2: wasn't there, you wouldn't have been ivarwe blah blah blah blah.

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01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 2: And if Michigan wins, ah you cheated. Okay, I gotta

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01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 2: tell you. And by the way, like I said, coming

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01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 2: up in the other show, about an hour from now,

1338
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 2: have a full handicap breakdown of Ohio State Michigan and

1339
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:19,560
Speaker 2: give you my thoughts from an objective view, not a

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01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 2: fanboy view. Thirteen years ago, Ohio State University released what

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01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 2: they felt was adequate punishment for their transaggressions involving Terrell

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01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 2: Prior and several players on the Buckeyes. You remember the

1343
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 2: tattoo gate thing, right. They elected to vacate their twenty

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01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 2: ten season, which included twelve wins as well as their

1345
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 2: Big Ten championship in Sugar Bowl victory. And everybody was

1346
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 2: blaming everybody in Columbus to the you know, the administration,

1347
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 2: Jim Tressel who lost his job, Terrell Prior. That's when

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01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 2: Urban Meyer came in his very first year. They go

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01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 2: twelve to new but they weren't eligible. They weren't eligible.

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01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:01,600
Speaker 2: Part of the punishment where am I going with this.

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01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 2: There has been a phenomenon of cultural cheating in college

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01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 2: sports forever. This is this Michigan thing is only the

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01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 2: latest case in NCAA football. I'll say scandals and air quotes, okay.

1354
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 2: And I know people are pissed that there's no witch

1355
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 2: hunt here. There are rules either follow or you don't.

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01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 2: You may not like them. And if you don't follow

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01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 2: them and they investigate, you lie to the judge, you're

1358
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 2: digging a hole. So there's plenty of self inflicted wounds here.

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01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 2: The cover up is always worse than cheeseburger. And there's

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01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 2: a lot more of that happened that I'm not going

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01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 2: to talk about on the air. But Michigan is not

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01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 2: the only one. And this is not what about ism.

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01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 2: It's not what I'm telling you. I'm just giving you

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01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 2: a walk down memory lane college football history. So maybe

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01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 2: you'll hate Michigan just a little bit less, believe it

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01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 2: or not. And this is all within the last fifteen

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01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 2: years North Carolina University they had thirteen players suspended for

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01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 2: improper contact with an age Michigan also earlier unauthorized practices

1369
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 2: during the offseason. Remember USC Reggie Bushes and their parents

1370
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 2: allegedly receiving payments and gifts from an agent. Auburn had

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01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 2: their investigation with Cam Newton. You remember, by the way,

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01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 2: schools like Oregon, LSU CAL they had a scout you know,

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01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 2: I'll say, allegedly, just to be fair, by the name

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01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:30,959
Speaker 2: of Willie Lyles, and there was allegedly some illegal recruitment.

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01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:32,640
Speaker 2: I could go on and on and just sort of

1376
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 2: give this laundry list, but believe it or not, cheating

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01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 2: in college football dates back to the first days of

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01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 2: collegiate football. I'm talking nineteen oh nine. In nineteen oh nine, yes,

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01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 2: those same Michigan Wolverines, they had a player named James

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01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:51,679
Speaker 2: Joy Miller. He played in all seven games, helping Michigan

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01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 2: do a great season. They were six to one that

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01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 2: year and very dominant. However, James Miller never attended, never

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01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 2: to never even enrolled in any of the classes at

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01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 2: University of Michigan during that season. The national media caught

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01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 2: on to it and they exposed this as one of

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01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 2: the very earliest college football scandals. Eight years later, we

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01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 2: had one arguably the biggest and most notorious scandal in

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01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 2: the NCAA history that involved the SMU football program. They

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01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 2: flat out paid players to come to their school and

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01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 2: paid for the and play for the team. You've seen

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01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 2: all the documentaries the Pony Excess, one of the great

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01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 2: ESPN thirty for thirty documentaries. The incident. In the incident

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01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:42,600
Speaker 2: had such statewide implications because it involved a lot of

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01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 2: powerful businessmen and involved state politicians. Of course, it became

1395
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 2: a national story. The media spotlight came down on Dallas.

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01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 2: There were repeat violations, and that led the NCA to

1397
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,839
Speaker 2: impose the most serious sanction in the history of college football,

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01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 2: the death penalty, and it so set back SMU's program,

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01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 2: which honestly, to this day, I don't think is ever

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01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 2: truly recovered. NACA said they would never administer the death

1401
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 2: penalty again. So for those of you who really want

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01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 2: Michigan to have the death penalty over, this ain't gonna happen.

1403
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 2: But that's almost forty years ago. You think cheating's gone away,

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01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 2: are you serious? One of the most important reasons we

1405
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 2: study history is that in theory, in a perfect world,

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01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 2: ideologically we don't make the same mistakes twice. But to

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01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 2: avoid doing so, you have to recognize and admit the

1408
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 2: mistake itself in the first place, Right a lot of

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01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 2: people don't believe Michigan made a mistake. And if you've

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01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 2: made a mistake and you've cheated, and you got to

1411
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 2: ask yourself, is it worth it and you're going to

1412
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:46,600
Speaker 2: abide by the system of the rules? Is it the

1413
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 2: culture that surrounds the game as a whole. Well, back

1414
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 2: in nineteen oh nine, Michigan had Miller. They cheated to

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01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 2: win for pride. SMU did the same thing, but instead

1416
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 2: of lying about attendants that use money to make it happen,

1417
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 2: boosters pumped in thousands of dollars they funded illegal practices.

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01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:07,759
Speaker 2: Why they wanted bragging rights over their fellow country clubbers. Today,

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01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:11,799
Speaker 2: de motimum cheating has changed a little bit now because

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01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 2: college football is no longer amateur football. There is so

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01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 2: much big money involved in the game there's no room

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01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 2: for error. Coaches come in with multimillion dollar contracts, and

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01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 2: if you don't win right away, you're not long for

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01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 2: this world. Coaches work their entire adult lives to become

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01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 2: the head coach of a big time program. Once they

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01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 2: get there, they're expected to continue and revitalize the success

1427
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 2: or turn the program around or get to the promised land. Now,

1428
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 2: if they're not able to do, so they're out on

1429
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 2: the street and they no longer get their paycheck. Typically

1430
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:45,639
Speaker 2: they get a pretty big buy ou. If you don't

1431
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:49,679
Speaker 2: believe me, well ask jimbal Fisher. They're paying him seventy

1432
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 2: six million dollars to go away. And I really Pete

1433
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 2: Futec said, well, they won nine games. Well that's not

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01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 2: what they want. They have won nine games, by the way,

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01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 2: they gotta win their last two. So we're gonna tell

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01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 2: it this morning my Saturday show. And I'm not giving

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01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 2: Michigan a hall pass. But I'm also not going to

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01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 2: excoriate them the way everybody else wants to. Because while

1439
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 2: I don't condone it, and this is not what about

1440
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 2: is cheating as a culture in college football goes back

1441
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 2: over one hundred years, and I don't think it's gonna

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01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:22,679
Speaker 2: end anytime soon. Coming up, we got an interesting NFL

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01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 2: player poll. We're gonna bring the crew in, have a

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Speaker 2: little fun, chop it up, give it locked right here.

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Speaker 2: You listen to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: there all of their reportage had an anonymous player pull

1455
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 2: regarding the NFL ask questions like who's the best player?

1456
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 2: Come on, man, if you if you answered anything other

1457
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 2: than Patrick Mahomes, come on man. He ended up getting

1458
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 2: forty six percent of the vote. You know, you throw

1459
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald in there, Tyreek Hill, Miles Garrett, come on, man,

1460
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Speaker 2: I promise not to say come on anymore. It's Patrick Mahomes. Okay,

1461
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 2: So there's not a lot of argument there. And then

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Speaker 2: biggest trash talker, well, how the hell are we supposed

1463
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 2: to know that I know in some sports turns out

1464
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 2: to be the Lions on CJ. Gardner Johnson and he

1465
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 2: ran away with it. He ran away with it, so

1466
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 2: you know, maybe they know something we know don't put

1467
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 2: You know, talking trash is a is a big part

1468
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 2: of sports, of course, but I guess players kind of

1469
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 2: like to stick more than anything else. He's probably got

1470
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 2: some really funny lines. You know, Brett Farr was a

1471
01:21:56,920 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 2: great trash talker back in the day. But anyway, there

1472
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 2: are a couple of categories. I want to bring the

1473
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:07,680
Speaker 2: crew in and talk about this because they really engender

1474
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 2: I think some legitimate conversation, maybe not debate, but some

1475
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 2: you know, various opinions, various observations, various thoughts, and one

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01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 2: of the coach or checked out one of the I

1477
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 2: just teased it there. One of the questions that caught

1478
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 2: my eye, frankly, was which current coach? Remember these are

1479
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 2: NFL players, current NFL players. This is an anonymous poll.

1480
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 2: Which current coach aside from your own? Would you want

1481
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 2: to play for? One coach ran away with it? Kevin figures?

1482
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 2: Can you guess which coach ran away with it?

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01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:50,440
Speaker 1: My guess would be Mike Tomlin and the Steelers spam.

1484
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:53,640
Speaker 2: Help yourself, you get you get the cookies out of

1485
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 2: Petty Cash. He got almost twenty seven percent of the vote. Okay,

1486
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 2: so first of all, do you agree with it? Oh?

1487
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes total sense. I mean, he seems like

1488
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 1: a player's coach. All the guys respect him. He's someone

1489
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 1: who's honest, which players you know obviously want. He He'll

1490
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 1: never call out somebody you know publicly, but you know, uh,

1491
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 1: but he speaks. He speaks from his heart. He never loses.

1492
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 1: I don't think he's had a losing season since he's

1493
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 1: been the head coach of Steele. Yes or not, there's

1494
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 1: consistency there, so it makes all the sense in the world.

1495
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:26,440
Speaker 2: Seventeen consecutive years, five hundred or better. I love his leadership.

1496
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 2: I like the way he works the room. I think

1497
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 2: he's a solid man. You know what. I loved it

1498
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 2: a couple three years ago when David Shaw was let

1499
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:37,679
Speaker 2: go at Stanford. Instead of giving these urban Meyer non answers,

1500
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,680
Speaker 2: all we're really happy and we're enjoining our life when

1501
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 2: we take the kids to John butjuice, okay, shut up

1502
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 2: with that. You don't say no, you're not specific. Mike

1503
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 2: Tomlin was specific. No, I'm not going to Stanford.

1504
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 1: He was rumored, so who he even his goal was,

1505
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 1: there's not a booster with enough deep enough pocket to

1506
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 1: lure me away or something like that.

1507
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:57,640
Speaker 2: Ye's something like that. But he he also said, you

1508
01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:59,600
Speaker 2: never say never. But I'm saying never not. But you

1509
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 2: knew he meant it. You weren't questioning whether or not

1510
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 2: he was playing games. He meant it. And I think

1511
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 2: that kind of credibility you can't buy. But the reason

1512
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 2: I asked the question I asked is because you always

1513
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 2: hear about Pete Carroll. Guys love him, players coach. He

1514
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 2: only got two percent of the vote. How about Antonio Pierce.

1515
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 2: He's only been coaching for ten minutes. He got the

1516
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 2: same percentage of the vote that Pete Carroll got, and

1517
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 2: the same Demico Ryan's got. And so before I go

1518
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 2: to the other guys, Kevin, guess who guess who finished

1519
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:34,719
Speaker 2: last last?

1520
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:38,559
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick?

1521
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 2: You're two for two. He got two point one percent

1522
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 2: of the vote. Anyway, Hey, by by the way, you

1523
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 2: know what you know? Bill Belichick listens to the show?

1524
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:50,599
Speaker 1: How does oh?

1525
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 2: I know Mark Ramsey? Everybody knows he does. He tells

1526
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 2: people matter of fact. Hey Bill, Bill, why you're out there.

1527
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 2: I'm curious you only got two percent of the vote.

1528
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:02,680
Speaker 2: You want to come out and defend yourself, all right,

1529
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hold you to it. We might do it,

1530
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 2: all right, Kevin, nicely done. Two for two. We're gonna

1531
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 2: come back to you with it. The other question that

1532
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:13,600
Speaker 2: really caught my eye as well. But let's go to

1533
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 2: Mark Ramsey. Mark, would you have guessed Mike Tomlin would

1534
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 2: have been the number one coach that people want to

1535
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 2: play for.

1536
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 7: I guess because he's very stable and maybe he makes

1537
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 7: all the players told the line. And I guess he

1538
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:32,520
Speaker 7: always in his press conferences talks about you know, responsibility

1539
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 7: and you know, yeah, just being responsible for your acts

1540
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 7: and stuff like that.

1541
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 2: So oh, he's he he can do. His comportment is

1542
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 2: is the best. No one can deny that. And and

1543
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 2: of course his results have been there too. He's been

1544
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 2: there seventeen years. I mean, the Steelers have had three

1545
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 2: coaches since nineteen sixty nine. Chuck noll uh, All right, now,

1546
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 2: I just had the brain cramp.

1547
01:25:56,600 --> 01:26:01,680
Speaker 7: I can Bill, he's got a long legacy to hold up,

1548
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 7: so he can be a slouch if he's gonna be

1549
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 7: a stealer coach.

1550
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 2: And that's all true, but there are other organizations that

1551
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 2: have legacies as well. But but your points taken, you

1552
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 2: are the face of the franchise. I believe that the

1553
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 2: coaches always are sometimes the players. But I'm gonna come.

1554
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make a specific point here in a second,

1555
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 2: shay your thoughts. Do you agree with Mike Tomlin d

1556
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 2: do you had thought maybe somebody else? I mean, yeah,

1557
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:25,679
Speaker 2: I agree.

1558
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 8: I mean as a Browns fan, I hate saying this,

1559
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 8: but yeah, I agree with Mike Tomlin's He's a legend.

1560
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 8: I mean, the dude's you said seventeen years right, So

1561
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 8: I don't think he's had a season under five hundred,

1562
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 8: and I don't know, I don't think there's not Yeah,

1563
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 8: I mean so yeah. I mean, as a player, you

1564
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 8: want to winning coach, I mean, it's obvious, and he's

1565
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 8: probably the only guy I think who's ever done that.

1566
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 8: I don't think there's ever been a coach who's never

1567
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 8: had a losing season in his entire career. So, I mean,

1568
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 8: even a Browns fan saying this, I'm just I can't

1569
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 8: believe I'm saying it too. But yeah, Mike Tomlin definitely one.

1570
01:26:57,680 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 8: He's gonna go in the Hall of Fame, of course,

1571
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 8: and he's he's done it. After he's done and said

1572
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 8: and done, I think he's going to be known as

1573
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:05,640
Speaker 8: one of the best coaches to ever do it.

1574
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:09,640
Speaker 2: So here's what's interesting and the only reason I qualified

1575
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 2: check that. Let me qualify why I said what I said,

1576
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 2: because not only was tomin number one, And I don't disagree,

1577
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:19,760
Speaker 2: because he checks every box. He's successful. I think he's

1578
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 2: tough and he's demanding, but he's probably and he's accountable.

1579
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 2: He makes you accountable. But I think he's also a

1580
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 2: good dude and a fun guy, and he gets it.

1581
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's He's outstanding in one on one situations,

1582
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 2: maybe even better than he is in person. But think

1583
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 2: about it, Andy Reid, players love him, He only got

1584
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:38,560
Speaker 2: ten percent of the vote. Players love Dan Campbell he

1585
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 2: got eight percent of the vote. How about Sean McVeigh,

1586
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 2: players say they love him. He got five point six

1587
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:49,640
Speaker 2: percent of the vote. So pretty good competition there. And

1588
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 2: if you add up what Andy Reid got, what Dan

1589
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 2: Campbell got, and what Sean McVeigh got, it adds up

1590
01:27:56,000 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 2: to twenty four percent. Mike Tomlin got twenty six percent. Yes,

1591
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 2: it's well deserved, but he has a real competition on

1592
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 2: the other end of the scale, now, believe it or not,

1593
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:09,879
Speaker 2: even below Bill Belichick. There was a category called Others.

1594
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:15,799
Speaker 2: Others guys like Todd Bowles, Gus Bradley, Brian Flores, Robert Salah,

1595
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 2: Steve Wilkes. They all got one vote, one vote, So

1596
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:25,879
Speaker 2: tip of the cap to U to to Mike Tomlin.

1597
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 2: But you know there are there are guys that like

1598
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell, guys like Dany Reid. But mentioned that out

1599
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 2: of thirty coaches, Tomlin took twenty six percent of the vote.

1600
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:38,679
Speaker 2: The other the other one that caught my eye. Okay,

1601
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 2: I'm not going to get into underrated overrated players. It's

1602
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 2: all subjective. The best stadium to play in now, this

1603
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 2: is a question whether you're a visitor or whe they're

1604
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 2: the home team.

1605
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 5: This is the.

1606
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:57,679
Speaker 2: Stadium that players most love to play in. Kevin figures

1607
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 2: and you guess I am going to say Arrowhead Stadium.

1608
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:10,679
Speaker 2: You're three for three the by the way, you're in Fluego.

1609
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 2: I've been to Arrowhead Stadium. I was there for a

1610
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 2: playoff game in two thousand and four between the Colts

1611
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 2: and the Chiefs and the Cools one. That's when I

1612
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:20,639
Speaker 2: got to interview Tony Dungee.

1613
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 1: That was a great game. Neither team punted. I remember

1614
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 1: that vividly.

1615
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 2: Let me tell you you know, I'm a Michigan guy.

1616
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:29,719
Speaker 2: Dungee when I grew up. I want to be Tony Dungee.

1617
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 2: And I think I've told you guys the story before

1618
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 2: about him interviewing for coaches. But they strolled into town

1619
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 2: and I was listening to the talk raded the next dade,

1620
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 2: and boy, they were hammering. There's something about Arrowhead Stadium.

1621
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 2: I can't call a geehaw Field or whatever the hell

1622
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 2: you call it now with all the respect, because I

1623
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 2: can't explain it. There's something about the acoustics there. That

1624
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 2: place is so loud. I had a headache for about

1625
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:57,600
Speaker 2: a month after I left. Now, it's almost impossible to

1626
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 2: guess the least favorite stadium. But Kevin, you're three for three.

1627
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:02,040
Speaker 2: We'll see if you can go for for for the

1628
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 2: least favorite stadium.

1629
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 1: Least favorite, Well, I guess they don't use the Oakland

1630
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:08,719
Speaker 1: All of Media Coliseum anymore, so if that was still around,

1631
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:09,600
Speaker 1: I definitely would say that.

1632
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 2: Well, that would be fair. It didn't make the list

1633
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 2: because they don't play there anymore. But it's well, I'll

1634
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 2: tell you. Let's if anybody else can guess it. Mark Ramsey,

1635
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 2: can you guess which was the least favorite stadium or

1636
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:26,160
Speaker 2: considered the best stadium to play in, which rank last?

1637
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 2: All of them? The least? Yeah, which ranked last?

1638
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 1: All right? Now, Soldier Field, the bear stink.

1639
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 2: Believe it or not. Okay, I'm gonna give you top

1640
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 2: credit there because they fell in what was called the

1641
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 2: others category because they only got one vote. There were

1642
01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:44,240
Speaker 2: there were like Mercedes Benz In in uh, New Orleans

1643
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 2: got one vote, Hard Rock Stadium, Soldier Field, good call,

1644
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:52,880
Speaker 2: they all got one vote. But in terms of what

1645
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 2: what rank last, it was actually NRG Stadium in Houston.

1646
01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:59,600
Speaker 2: I'm not sure why. Maybe there's not there's not a

1647
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:01,280
Speaker 2: lot of fun there. I don't know. Again, these are

1648
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 2: these are the players talking in their favorite place to play.

1649
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:09,240
Speaker 2: They love Arrowhead because it's electric. It's one of the

1650
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:12,639
Speaker 2: coolest plays to play. Someone said, my opinion the lobs

1651
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 2: to the NFL. I I can I can back that up.

1652
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 2: It is freakishly loud, and Chiefs fans are fabulous, and

1653
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:21,840
Speaker 2: it's all red and it's neat, it's just and of

1654
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:25,280
Speaker 2: course you got the Chiefs right. Uh shay your thoughts

1655
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 2: on this whole pool?

1656
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:30,760
Speaker 8: I mean, stadium wise, okay, yeah, stadium wise, I mean

1657
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:32,720
Speaker 8: I've so I've only been to Sofi, and I really

1658
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 8: thought Sofi would win this just.

1659
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:36,600
Speaker 2: Because the vote, which is crazy to me.

1660
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 8: You would think the newest, like most up to date

1661
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 8: stadium would be the best. But honestly, it doesn't matter.

1662
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 2: It's maybe it's atmosphere.

1663
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:44,760
Speaker 8: It's the atmosphere, you go, that's that's that's exactly what

1664
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 8: you're right, And it's the fans, Like I feel like

1665
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:50,960
Speaker 8: the fans have a big reason. Like if you think

1666
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:53,760
Speaker 8: about it, the Eagles probably have a great stadium and

1667
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:57,640
Speaker 8: an amazing atmosphere, but the fans probably negatively affect the

1668
01:31:57,640 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 8: players a lot. So I'm guessing a lot of the

1669
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 8: players that vote for it. So you got to think

1670
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:04,760
Speaker 8: about that too from a player perspective where they want

1671
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:07,599
Speaker 8: to play. Obviously, from a fan like Sofi is such

1672
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:09,720
Speaker 8: a cool stateum to be at and like hang out in.

1673
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:12,519
Speaker 8: But from a player perspective, yeah, like now that I'm

1674
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 8: looking at this, it makes a lot more sense.

1675
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 6: You know.

1676
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 2: One of the big miss numbers. Of course, We've got Ohio,

1677
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 2: state of Michigan here at about seven hours and forty

1678
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 2: five minutes or about eight hours. I've been there bazillion times,

1679
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 2: covered a million games here. It's the quiet one hundred

1680
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 2: and ten thousand. You've ever seen there. The atmosphere were there,

1681
01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 2: believe it or not, is not as raucous as certainly

1682
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:37,000
Speaker 2: many SEC stadiums or Notre Dame is very distinctive. And

1683
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 2: they built this both they were both built by the

1684
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:42,599
Speaker 2: same architect. Here's what I found interesting, and I get

1685
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 2: the Arrowhead stadiums. Number one, they got like eighteen percent

1686
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:48,880
Speaker 2: of the vote so far, got eight percent of the vote.

1687
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 2: How about lambeau Field, It only got eight percent of

1688
01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:56,920
Speaker 2: the vote. It's too cold for the first eight weeks

1689
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 2: of the year. It's not bad, but yes, I agree,

1690
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 2: But how about the ear It's just as cold there.

1691
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 8: Man, Yeah, you're right, yeah, yeah, I'm trying to think

1692
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:05,040
Speaker 8: from like a player point of view.

1693
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 2: Why but we can't know everybody loves the Legion Stadium

1694
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 2: here in Vegas. It only got six percent of the

1695
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 2: vote in terms of the best stadium to playing. How

1696
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:17,760
Speaker 2: about Levi Stadium, San Francisco. Year after year they've been

1697
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:21,760
Speaker 2: they've been relevant every year. They got two percent of

1698
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:24,760
Speaker 2: the vote, two percent of the vote. And then how

1699
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:28,720
Speaker 2: about Lumanfield and Seattle the twelfth Man They only got

1700
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 2: eight percent of the vote. So again, I mean, you

1701
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 2: really got to give it up. These are the players now,

1702
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:37,519
Speaker 2: and of course the you know this anonymous poll went

1703
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 2: on to talk about who's the most underrated player? This

1704
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:42,760
Speaker 2: is so hard and so subjective, right, they gave it

1705
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,960
Speaker 2: to t Higgins right, A bunch of other guys on

1706
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:49,559
Speaker 2: the list, and the only other thing they asked about

1707
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:52,160
Speaker 2: was you know who's the biggest trash talk or how

1708
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:54,160
Speaker 2: would we know? Jalen Ramsey made the list. C j

1709
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 2: Arnold Johnson again twenty five percent of the vote. I'm

1710
01:33:56,600 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 2: guessing because he's He's probably the funniest and has the

1711
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 2: most material. But I always get a kick out of

1712
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:04,920
Speaker 2: when you do you give these anonymous polls. You hope

1713
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 2: it doesn't get out because you're playing for one coach

1714
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 2: and you say I'd rather play for that coach. Well,

1715
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 2: you might find yourself playing for that coach some year.

1716
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 2: But anyway, speaking of coaches, shed no tears for Jimbo Fisher.

1717
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 2: There are buyouts and then there are biots, and we

1718
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 2: come to find out that the best laid plans my god. Well,

1719
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 2: I talked about this Amplify program at Texas A and

1720
01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:33,719
Speaker 2: M many times, how the boosters and the donors, et cetera.

1721
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:37,640
Speaker 2: They rallied to pony up thirty million dollars. They had

1722
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 2: eleven to five stars, eight four stars, three stars. They

1723
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:45,639
Speaker 2: had twenty five recruits and they were five and seven

1724
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:48,040
Speaker 2: last year twenty five recruits that were three star better,

1725
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:51,400
Speaker 2: and they're seven and four right now. They did not

1726
01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:56,280
Speaker 2: win the SEC West. The consortium of people in College

1727
01:34:56,320 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 2: Station says, we've had enough. Well, guess what Jimbobe Fisher

1728
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 2: is being paid in a godly amount of money to

1729
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:06,679
Speaker 2: go away. I'll break it down for you in what happened?

1730
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 2: You're gonna be scratching your head when you hear about

1731
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:12,799
Speaker 2: Jimbo Fisher. Yes he was fires, but shed no tears

1732
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:15,240
Speaker 2: for Jimbo Fisher. I'm Bernie Fredder. We're come to you

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Speaker 2: a fundamental standpoint, everything you need to know on the

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Speaker 2: Before I dive into this Jimbo Fisher thing and this

1766
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:07,879
Speaker 2: will leave you scratching your head. I believe Kevin figures.

1767
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 2: Have you followed this story at all, the entire ordeal

1768
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:14,840
Speaker 2: and how it finally ended last week, I.

1769
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:17,040
Speaker 1: Mean, not super closely. I just know that it's a

1770
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 1: pretty ginormous buyout situation for him, But I don't not

1771
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:22,920
Speaker 1: need any needy, gritty details as to how you know

1772
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:23,640
Speaker 1: what led up to it.

1773
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 2: No fair enough, And you're right about the size of

1774
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:29,080
Speaker 2: the buyout, and this has been the year for buyouts.

1775
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 2: Mel Tucker had an eighty million dollar buyout clause. But

1776
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:36,160
Speaker 2: if you talk to people around that situation, I think

1777
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:39,360
Speaker 2: in Michigan State is fairly confident. When of course this

1778
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 2: was not paid out of the general fund, they're not

1779
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:43,640
Speaker 2: going to have to honor it due to the allegations,

1780
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 2: but they we'll let that play out. Previously, the most

1781
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:50,880
Speaker 2: expensive buyout in college football history was Gus mel Zan,

1782
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:54,599
Speaker 2: who received twenty one point five million from Auburn after

1783
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:57,720
Speaker 2: be fired after being fired in twenty twenty, that to

1784
01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:06,479
Speaker 2: me is an astronomical amount. For perspective, Jim Harbaugh actually

1785
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:08,720
Speaker 2: only has a two point two million dollar buyout this year.

1786
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 2: So should he elect to want to go back to

1787
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 2: the NFL, no one's gonna have to break the bank. Right,

1788
01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 2: we're hearing about Jonathan Smith. I think the group think

1789
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:22,519
Speaker 2: echo Chamber assumes he's going to Michigan State. I don't

1790
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:25,840
Speaker 2: think that's a done deal, not at all. That might happen,

1791
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:28,439
Speaker 2: but I think he's got an eight nine million dollar buyout.

1792
01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:31,479
Speaker 2: Lance Leipold of Kansas, you get the picture. He's got

1793
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 2: a twelve million dollar buyout. Well, when Texas A and

1794
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:40,080
Speaker 2: M's firing of Jimbo Fisher finally came to fruition and

1795
01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:44,599
Speaker 2: became a reality last week and set a new precedent

1796
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:48,320
Speaker 2: for multimillion dollar bouts in college football. So, just two

1797
01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:52,599
Speaker 2: years after giving Jimbo Fisher a ten year, ninety five

1798
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:57,519
Speaker 2: million dollar contract extension, which was guaranteed because they are

1799
01:38:57,600 --> 01:39:01,559
Speaker 2: now parting ways with the coach, his buyout is going

1800
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:07,000
Speaker 2: to be wait for it, seventy six point eight million dollars.

1801
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:13,160
Speaker 2: Can you believe it. Yes, that means and oh, by

1802
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:17,760
Speaker 2: the way, his agent deserves a medal because there is

1803
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 2: no offset language in the contract, which means Jimbo Fisher

1804
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:26,680
Speaker 2: can take a job tomorrow at Butmidgie State making one

1805
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:29,559
Speaker 2: hundred million a year and he still gets his seventy

1806
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:34,080
Speaker 2: six point eight million dollars. And by the way, Texas

1807
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:36,960
Speaker 2: A and M is also on the hook for a

1808
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:39,920
Speaker 2: bunch of lucrative contracts that their assistant coaches had, which

1809
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 2: is going to add tens of millions of dollars of

1810
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:42,800
Speaker 2: the bill is going to be up over one hundred

1811
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:47,040
Speaker 2: million dollars. But as they say, everything is big in Texas, right,

1812
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:52,360
Speaker 2: But not that this is going to happen, because I

1813
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:55,439
Speaker 2: think Kirby Smart probably walks on water in Georgia. He's

1814
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 2: actually got a ninety two million dollars pieout. If the

1815
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:03,960
Speaker 2: two time defending national champ Georgia Bulldogs decide to part

1816
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:07,840
Speaker 2: ways with Kirby Smart, well yeah, I'm pretty sure it's

1817
01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:11,080
Speaker 2: not gonna happen, all right. What's interesting is Fisher was

1818
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:16,000
Speaker 2: fired right after beating After beating Mississippi State, a wee

1819
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:19,800
Speaker 2: could go Saturday fifty one to ten Mississippi States coach

1820
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:22,639
Speaker 2: was also fired. But my moles told me that look

1821
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:26,439
Speaker 2: on once it was obvious, once it was determined that

1822
01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:29,720
Speaker 2: that Texas A and M wasn't even gonna win the

1823
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:33,320
Speaker 2: SECU West, it was time to go. And it didn't

1824
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:35,960
Speaker 2: help that his conference play of the record of six

1825
01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 2: and nine since the beginning of the twenty twenty two season,

1826
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:38,720
Speaker 2: that was it.

1827
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:40,080
Speaker 6: That was it.

1828
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:43,200
Speaker 2: So, with all due respect to Pete Futech who defended him,

1829
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:45,000
Speaker 2: saying that kind of worked out. No, not if you're

1830
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:46,760
Speaker 2: six and nine in conference in the last two years.

1831
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:49,880
Speaker 2: The stakeholders at Texas A and M, they could not

1832
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 2: ignore that, all right. The good news is if you

1833
01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:56,280
Speaker 2: want a silver lining is they don't have to pay

1834
01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 2: it all out. Texas A and M. They don't have

1835
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:01,920
Speaker 2: to pay it all out immediately, well sort of kind of.

1836
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:06,760
Speaker 2: They actually had eight years for Fisher. It's going to

1837
01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:08,960
Speaker 2: take eight years for Fisher to collect this little buyout.

1838
01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:12,720
Speaker 2: Here's the breakdown. Within sixty days, which I guess what

1839
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:15,760
Speaker 2: would put us at mid January since this went down,

1840
01:41:16,240 --> 01:41:18,680
Speaker 2: he's owed nineteen point four million. Within one hundred and

1841
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:20,880
Speaker 2: twenty days, he's owed a little over seven million. So

1842
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:24,360
Speaker 2: it collected about twenty seven million between now and March.

1843
01:41:25,160 --> 01:41:29,479
Speaker 2: Then starting in twenty twenty five through twenty thirty one,

1844
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:33,720
Speaker 2: he's owed a little over seven million dollars per year

1845
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:37,160
Speaker 2: for each of those seven years, so it's an eight

1846
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:41,240
Speaker 2: year payout. Nice work if you can get it. And yes,

1847
01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 2: Jimbo Fisher did win a national championship in Florida State.

1848
01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:49,800
Speaker 2: But as you know, you know, future future results are

1849
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:52,280
Speaker 2: not guaranteed based on past performance. You know how that

1850
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:56,519
Speaker 2: whole drill works, right, So I don't know what happens

1851
01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:58,600
Speaker 2: next to Texas A and M. I think they'd do

1852
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 2: themselves well to hire Jeff Trailer, the coach at Texas

1853
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 2: San Antonio. He's a young up and comer. He's an

1854
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:07,160
Speaker 2: offensive mind. I was told they didn't think Jimbo in

1855
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:10,439
Speaker 2: retrospect really fit the culture in the state of Texas.

1856
01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:13,000
Speaker 2: Didn't really have a lot of Texas ties. Jeff Trailer

1857
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:15,960
Speaker 2: does high school legend brilliant offense. He runs at Texas

1858
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:19,639
Speaker 2: San Antonio. Give him athletes that they've got a Texas

1859
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:21,240
Speaker 2: A and M, and maybe they got a shot and

1860
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:23,680
Speaker 2: making a run at the SEC. Texas A and M

1861
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 2: hasn't been anywhere near as relevant as they'd like to

1862
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 2: be since the Johnny Manziel days, and that's been ten

1863
01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:32,519
Speaker 2: years plus. By the way, a really good Johnny Manziel

1864
01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 2: documentary on Netflix. Jimbo Fisher, we hardly knew you. Actually,

1865
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:41,439
Speaker 2: we did enjoy that seventy six point eight million. You

1866
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:44,800
Speaker 2: earned it, sort of kind of I'm being sarcastic. Coming up,

1867
01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:47,760
Speaker 2: we've got Chris Prefet's World of Soccer, but first let's

1868
01:42:47,760 --> 01:42:49,599
Speaker 2: go back to our guy, Kevin Figures with the latest.

1869
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 1: All right, plenty of NBA action on a Black Friday,

1870
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:55,479
Speaker 1: There Bernie Bust some horton college football matchups as well

1871
01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 1: six rank Oregon Curb stopping soon to be former conference

1872
01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:01,920
Speaker 1: rival Oregon State. The final score there thirty one to seven,

1873
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:05,000
Speaker 1: as the Ducks clincher spot in the Pac twelve Championship game.

1874
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:07,479
Speaker 1: Texas has won six in a row since theyre lost

1875
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:10,680
Speaker 1: to Oklahoma. After a fifty seven to seven win over

1876
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:12,960
Speaker 1: Texas tex So, the Longhoard advanced to the Big twelve

1877
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:15,679
Speaker 1: Championship matchup. The Sooners won a sixty nine to forty

1878
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:18,559
Speaker 1: five shootout over TCU on Friday. Then now they now

1879
01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 1: needed and Oklahoma State lost to BYU to clinch the

1880
01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:24,280
Speaker 1: other slot in the Big Twelve Conference title game blowout

1881
01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:26,920
Speaker 1: victories from Missouri and Penn State. Tulane will host the

1882
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 1: AAC Championship Game after a twenty nine to sixteen victory

1883
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:35,439
Speaker 1: over the aforementioned Taylor and UTSA. In the NFL, Tyreek

1884
01:43:35,479 --> 01:43:37,439
Speaker 1: Hill had over one hundred yards receiving in a touchdown

1885
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:39,960
Speaker 1: reception in a thirty four to thirteen Dolphins win over

1886
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:42,439
Speaker 1: the Jets. In the NBA, you got the Pelicans beating

1887
01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:45,719
Speaker 1: the Clippers won sixteen to one oh six. Zion Williamson

1888
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:48,200
Speaker 1: with thirty two points. There Steph Curry with thirty five

1889
01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:51,000
Speaker 1: points as the Warriors beat San Antonio. He also had

1890
01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 1: victories for the Knicks, Bucks and the Phoenix Suns. Back

1891
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:55,280
Speaker 1: to Bernie Freddo.

1892
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:58,840
Speaker 2: All right, buddy, thanks so much, good job. And of

1893
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:02,719
Speaker 2: course is this time of the show, at this juncture

1894
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:05,560
Speaker 2: of the Bernie Frowder Show every week on Friday. You know,

1895
01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:12,519
Speaker 2: we covered all and soccer is a sport that's probably

1896
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:14,200
Speaker 2: the most popular sport in the world. You may not

1897
01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:17,479
Speaker 2: want to admit that. And we began this feature about

1898
01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 2: eighteen months ago heading into the Men's World Cup, which

1899
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:23,960
Speaker 2: was which kicked off a year ago today with the

1900
01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:27,839
Speaker 2: US and England, and it was a terrific tournament through Christmas.

1901
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:32,040
Speaker 2: That followed up with last summer of the Women's World

1902
01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:36,680
Speaker 2: Cup tournament and in about pa up, you know, a

1903
01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:39,519
Speaker 2: little over four and a half weeks. Here we'll turn

1904
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:42,840
Speaker 2: our attention to twenty twenty four and Paris in July

1905
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:46,920
Speaker 2: and the Olympics and soccer. But see, it's not just

1906
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:50,479
Speaker 2: the games on the field that make news twenty four

1907
01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:54,479
Speaker 2: to seven. There's always news around soccer football as they

1908
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:56,080
Speaker 2: call it, around the world. That's why we bring you

1909
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Speaker 2: this time each week Chris berfets soccer.

1910
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Speaker 10: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drum.

1911
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Speaker 1: I am, it's all here in this report from the

1912
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Speaker 1: world of soccer.

1913
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Speaker 11: The early winter and post Thanksgiving landscape really sets up

1914
01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:27,240
Speaker 11: well for the comfort of being at home in the

1915
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:31,320
Speaker 11: mornings and watching Premier League and other soccer matchups happen

1916
01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 11: as they return from a long international break. As we

1917
01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:38,920
Speaker 11: set the stage here for twenty twenty four. But you

1918
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:42,519
Speaker 11: may be thinking to yourself, Bernie, we're looking at gifts

1919
01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:46,320
Speaker 11: right now. It was just Black Friday. Is there something

1920
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:49,000
Speaker 11: out there the gift for the soccer lover in America

1921
01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:52,519
Speaker 11: as the MLS Cup Playoffs prepares to enter into its

1922
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 11: semi finals in the conferences. Well, I'm glad you asked,

1923
01:45:57,120 --> 01:46:01,040
Speaker 11: because you see, the New York Red Bulls have rolled

1924
01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:04,519
Speaker 11: out a holiday pack featuring the home opener and the

1925
01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:08,479
Speaker 11: derby against New York City FC. They're not quite New

1926
01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:11,479
Speaker 11: York City Rivals because Red bull even though they're called

1927
01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:13,360
Speaker 11: New York, play in New Jersey. But this is a

1928
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:15,640
Speaker 11: Giant Jets thing again, so let's just put that to

1929
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Speaker 11: the side. But the holiday pack is here two games,

1930
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Speaker 11: and ticket price packs vary from ninety eight dollars for

1931
01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:24,800
Speaker 11: the upper corners and end line to about one hundred

1932
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:28,519
Speaker 11: and twenty five for corner end upper deadline four hundred

1933
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Speaker 11: and ninety five for the club seats.

1934
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Speaker 1: But there's a catch.

1935
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Speaker 11: Like all good things, there is a catch, and there's

1936
01:46:34,280 --> 01:46:37,120
Speaker 11: a fine print in there, and I'm curious how many

1937
01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 11: teams will have it because it is the messy clause.

1938
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:44,960
Speaker 11: That's right, we don't actually have the MLS twenty twenty

1939
01:46:45,080 --> 01:46:48,880
Speaker 11: four season scheduled yet. That's going to be coming out

1940
01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 11: in late December, and the clause at the end if

1941
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:55,320
Speaker 11: you notice the fine print. It says if Red Bull

1942
01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:58,559
Speaker 11: New York plays Inter Miami in the home opener, each

1943
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:01,720
Speaker 11: home opener ticket will be swapped the ticket to Red

1944
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:06,200
Speaker 11: Bull New York's second home match. That's right, thanks to

1945
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:09,760
Speaker 11: the power of happenstance scheduling we're not even aware of

1946
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:13,240
Speaker 11: and the fact that Lionel Messi is causing the entire

1947
01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:16,479
Speaker 11: MLS market to arbitrage itself. That's a word I just

1948
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 11: learned and I love using it. It means that Leonel

1949
01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:22,600
Speaker 11: Messi games continue to remain hot button ticket items that

1950
01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:25,560
Speaker 11: are reserved, not for the fan looking to save a

1951
01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:29,680
Speaker 11: dollar or getting a good holiday pack of team friendly deals. No,

1952
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:33,320
Speaker 11: it's reserved for the elite, not for you, the global game,

1953
01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:34,679
Speaker 11: the game for the entire world.

1954
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Speaker 1: It's not for you.

1955
01:47:36,200 --> 01:47:38,040
Speaker 11: It's for the people who are going to spend a

1956
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:41,800
Speaker 11: lot more than you. What a load of crop. And

1957
01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:45,320
Speaker 11: then yet I expect every other MLS team who loves

1958
01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:48,040
Speaker 11: to roll out these fan friendly packs to follow the

1959
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:51,519
Speaker 11: blueprint because Leonel Messi is money and there is money

1960
01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:54,880
Speaker 11: to be made off Leonel Messi. But the long term

1961
01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:58,080
Speaker 11: effect of it, who knows. But it is something where

1962
01:47:58,160 --> 01:48:01,160
Speaker 11: I just look at and I think they're cloud they're clowns.

1963
01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:04,120
Speaker 11: They're acting like clowns to do this. If people want

1964
01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:07,320
Speaker 11: to spend ninety eight dollars for a couple games tickets

1965
01:48:07,720 --> 01:48:11,000
Speaker 11: back when just you know, five six years ago, that

1966
01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 11: would probably get you like three or four games, then

1967
01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:18,080
Speaker 11: by all means do this. Nobody can really stop you.

1968
01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:20,320
Speaker 11: But that also means that I don't need to consider

1969
01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:22,840
Speaker 11: it as anything other than just scummy, because at the

1970
01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:25,120
Speaker 11: end of the day, what it is is weird. You

1971
01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:28,960
Speaker 11: are pricing people out of your own team because of

1972
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 11: a player on a opponent team. It makes very little

1973
01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:35,080
Speaker 11: sense for the person who is a dedicated New York

1974
01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:37,519
Speaker 11: Red Bull fan. And to be honest, it would be

1975
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:39,519
Speaker 11: like if I decided to say, Hey, I'm going to

1976
01:48:39,560 --> 01:48:42,680
Speaker 11: give you two tickets to the Charlotte Hornets game, but

1977
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:45,760
Speaker 11: it can't be a Lebron James game, your son that

1978
01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:47,439
Speaker 11: you have been waiting all this time to take to

1979
01:48:47,520 --> 01:48:50,400
Speaker 11: the see Lebron James. No, sir, you don't get to

1980
01:48:50,479 --> 01:48:53,240
Speaker 11: do that. It's a development that I'm sure depends on

1981
01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:56,800
Speaker 11: your level of passion. Either you will shrug or you

1982
01:48:56,840 --> 01:48:59,240
Speaker 11: will say that MOLS is within their right to do

1983
01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:02,320
Speaker 11: this that the money is simply too great, or you

1984
01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:05,040
Speaker 11: can just look at it and say this is undercutting

1985
01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:08,479
Speaker 11: basically entire bread and butter of soccer culture itself, which

1986
01:49:08,479 --> 01:49:11,080
Speaker 11: is supposed to be for the fan. But the other

1987
01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:13,479
Speaker 11: big story this week, Bernie, comes from us in the

1988
01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:16,479
Speaker 11: Premier League. We're getting more Premier League action on this weekend.

1989
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:20,560
Speaker 11: But last Friday there was a three man panel that

1990
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:23,680
Speaker 11: convened by the Premier League and they have issued out

1991
01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:29,200
Speaker 11: a points deduction for violating the competition's profit and sustainability rules.

1992
01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:31,960
Speaker 11: Now we've talked about these rules before under names like

1993
01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:35,320
Speaker 11: financial fair play in the past, the idea being as

1994
01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:39,519
Speaker 11: always to keep soccer clubs in Europe from spending themselves

1995
01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:43,679
Speaker 11: out of existence or falling into massive amounts of crippling debt,

1996
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:46,760
Speaker 11: which has happened in multiple places, that we need to

1997
01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:51,080
Speaker 11: keep certain rules that will keep clubs from outspending themselves. Well,

1998
01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:53,960
Speaker 11: Everton was caught in a violation of one of these

1999
01:49:54,080 --> 01:49:57,800
Speaker 11: rules and they've been handed a whopping ten point deduction

2000
01:49:58,520 --> 01:50:02,680
Speaker 11: by the panel. This has dropped Everton almost completely to

2001
01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:04,880
Speaker 11: the bottom of the table. They are going into this

2002
01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:09,040
Speaker 11: weekend sit second tied with Burnley at just four points

2003
01:50:09,080 --> 01:50:12,840
Speaker 11: being dropped from fourteen, and to compare the top of

2004
01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:17,479
Speaker 11: the table Liverpool, Arsenal Manchester City, those are respectively going

2005
01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:20,360
Speaker 11: into the weekend about twenty eight twenty seven points. So,

2006
01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:23,479
Speaker 11: needless to say, Everton, once again, a club that has

2007
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:26,280
Speaker 11: always for the last two years been really shaky and

2008
01:50:26,439 --> 01:50:30,760
Speaker 11: tried to avoid relegation, has now suddenly been hoisted by

2009
01:50:30,800 --> 01:50:33,680
Speaker 11: their own petard. Now they do intend to challenge this,

2010
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:38,160
Speaker 11: and they should. They should challenge this because it's one violation.

2011
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:42,080
Speaker 11: It's a massive, staggering ten point deduction. I'm curious what

2012
01:50:42,160 --> 01:50:44,720
Speaker 11: evans there even is that if Everton even knew that

2013
01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:48,200
Speaker 11: they violated this rule, And I think Everton understands this

2014
01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:51,240
Speaker 11: themselves and is putting pressure as they head into their

2015
01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:55,200
Speaker 11: appeal with this statement, which quote they would monitor with

2016
01:50:55,360 --> 01:50:58,519
Speaker 11: great interest the decisions made in any other case concerning

2017
01:50:58,600 --> 01:51:03,559
Speaker 11: the Premier League's and sustainability rules. Now to draw back

2018
01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:06,559
Speaker 11: the curtain to what is basically a veiled I don't

2019
01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:09,840
Speaker 11: know if I'll call it a threat, but a accusation

2020
01:51:10,479 --> 01:51:13,519
Speaker 11: is that Manchester City, the giants who continue to dominate

2021
01:51:13,560 --> 01:51:17,560
Speaker 11: the Premier League, are currently facing one hundred and fifteen

2022
01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:22,519
Speaker 11: charges of breaching the profit and sustainability rules. The same

2023
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:26,240
Speaker 11: ones that got on one violation got Everton ten points.

2024
01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:31,559
Speaker 11: So yeah, I think while Manchester City over many years,

2025
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 11: who have been clearly violating these rules, and I think

2026
01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:37,760
Speaker 11: it would take a act of God for them to

2027
01:51:37,840 --> 01:51:41,439
Speaker 11: walk away from all these charges to s without even

2028
01:51:41,479 --> 01:51:43,960
Speaker 11: a slap on the wrist, for them to have all

2029
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:47,280
Speaker 11: those charges pending, and Everton to take ten points for

2030
01:51:47,439 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 11: just one violation. Yeah, it does feel a little overvalued here.

2031
01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:55,600
Speaker 11: Everton has never really been one of the elites of

2032
01:51:55,720 --> 01:51:58,560
Speaker 11: the Premier League. They've been second tier. I know a

2033
01:51:58,600 --> 01:52:01,720
Speaker 11: lot of Americans gravitated to them when Tim Howard was

2034
01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:05,160
Speaker 11: their goalkeeper, but by and large they are the little

2035
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:10,640
Speaker 11: brother to in city rival Liverpool, both residing within the

2036
01:52:11,080 --> 01:52:14,080
Speaker 11: city of Liverpool and taking place in the Merseyside Derby,

2037
01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:16,559
Speaker 11: which is now so far have taking place two hundred

2038
01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:20,920
Speaker 11: and forty three times throughout history, with Liverpool holding a

2039
01:52:21,160 --> 01:52:25,080
Speaker 11: ninety nine win to seventy seven draw sixty seven Everton

2040
01:52:25,160 --> 01:52:29,800
Speaker 11: win record over the series. Either way, this feels out

2041
01:52:29,840 --> 01:52:30,400
Speaker 11: of proportion.

2042
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:31,599
Speaker 2: These rules are.

2043
01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:34,160
Speaker 11: Important, but if you're only doing this thing where you're

2044
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:37,439
Speaker 11: punishing Everton and dragging your feet to punish someone like

2045
01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:41,640
Speaker 11: Manchester City, then other teams are going to question the

2046
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:43,960
Speaker 11: point of these rules and you're going to lose the

2047
01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:48,599
Speaker 11: power of enforcement. After all, just ask the NCAA. That's

2048
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:52,439
Speaker 11: the end product of not enforcing your rules fairly, because

2049
01:52:52,479 --> 01:52:54,640
Speaker 11: we all know the old joke about the NCAA is

2050
01:52:54,960 --> 01:52:57,880
Speaker 11: if they're mad at Duke, they'll go and punish Cleveland State.

2051
01:52:58,479 --> 01:52:59,479
Speaker 1: Everton is appealing.

2052
01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:01,160
Speaker 11: We'll keep an eye on that, will keep an eye

2053
01:53:01,200 --> 01:53:03,679
Speaker 11: on all the MLS and Premier League action this weekend.

2054
01:53:03,800 --> 01:53:05,880
Speaker 11: Got a lot to get through, Bernie. We'll see you

2055
01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:07,360
Speaker 11: next time on the World of Soccer.

2056
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:11,479
Speaker 2: All right, there you have it. As I said, there's

2057
01:53:11,680 --> 01:53:16,120
Speaker 2: always so much going on off the field, people crossing

2058
01:53:16,160 --> 01:53:21,160
Speaker 2: the line, big time, personalities, player movement. Boy, it just

2059
01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:26,439
Speaker 2: never ends coming up something else that never ends. The

2060
01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:32,080
Speaker 2: importance the intensity of Ohio State Michigan. We are about

2061
01:53:32,240 --> 01:53:36,200
Speaker 2: seven and a half hours from kickoff and frankly, I

2062
01:53:36,280 --> 01:53:39,680
Speaker 2: can't wait. It feels like Christmas Eve. This game is

2063
01:53:40,160 --> 01:53:45,519
Speaker 2: particularly of interest. It'll decide who advances to the Big

2064
01:53:45,600 --> 01:53:49,840
Speaker 2: Ten Championship game and likely the College Football Playoff. In

2065
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:53,519
Speaker 2: addition to the fact this is a rivalry that adds

2066
01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:56,080
Speaker 2: new dimensions to the word hate and it goes back

2067
01:53:57,080 --> 01:54:00,160
Speaker 2: well over one hundred years. I'll give you my all

2068
01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:03,760
Speaker 2: blown handicap from an objective standpoint, not a fanboy standpoint.

2069
01:54:04,120 --> 01:54:07,439
Speaker 2: I'll give you the technical factors, the fundamental factors, the keys,

2070
01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:11,800
Speaker 2: what to watch for, and a prediction. I'm Bernie Frattle.

2071
01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:14,479
Speaker 2: We're company live from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio, Tarract

2072
01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:16,920
Speaker 2: dot com studios. Keep it locked right here. You're listening

2073
01:54:16,960 --> 01:54:19,360
Speaker 2: to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

2074
01:54:20,320 --> 01:54:23,200
Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

2075
01:54:23,240 --> 01:54:26,599
Speaker 5: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

2076
01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:30,800
Speaker 5: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

2077
01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:32,200
Speaker 5: listen live or.

2078
01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:34,760
Speaker 2: Wrap it up on the Bernie Frattle Show Fox Sports Radio.

2079
01:54:35,400 --> 01:54:37,640
Speaker 2: Company live from the Tarack dot com studios here in

2080
01:54:37,720 --> 01:54:40,720
Speaker 2: Las Vegas. Before I go any further, I want to

2081
01:54:40,760 --> 01:54:43,520
Speaker 2: thank my broadcast team in Los Angeles. They've been with

2082
01:54:43,600 --> 01:54:48,280
Speaker 2: me since eleven pm Pacific on Friday night. Shay Mogangard

2083
01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:52,720
Speaker 2: putting the show together, and of course Kevin Figures and

2084
01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:56,080
Speaker 2: all the updates, and Mark Ramsey, our technical producer, together

2085
01:54:56,160 --> 01:54:59,280
Speaker 2: they turn all the dials, keep us glued together. Shape

2086
01:54:59,320 --> 01:55:02,120
Speaker 2: pulling down the d On Sanders stuff you found and

2087
01:55:03,200 --> 01:55:06,640
Speaker 2: it's a team teamwork. Appreciate the efforts, guys. I'll be

2088
01:55:06,760 --> 01:55:11,080
Speaker 2: back on these airwaves tonight eleven PM breaking it down.

2089
01:55:12,520 --> 01:55:15,240
Speaker 2: Lots happening Saturday, not the least of which in seven

2090
01:55:15,240 --> 01:55:19,840
Speaker 2: and a half hours is the Michigan Ohio State Epic

2091
01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:24,800
Speaker 2: matchup football game, which might have There might even be

2092
01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:26,640
Speaker 2: added pressure when you when you look at the other

2093
01:55:26,760 --> 01:55:29,960
Speaker 2: top contenders Georgia, Washington, Texas, and Alabama that all want

2094
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:32,920
Speaker 2: to be in the playoff. Washington and Texas have already won.

2095
01:55:32,960 --> 01:55:35,920
Speaker 2: I expect Bama to win, and I certainly expect Georgia

2096
01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:38,400
Speaker 2: to win, and all of their opponents will not be

2097
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:43,920
Speaker 2: as tough as Michigan and Ohio State. These two teams are,

2098
01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:47,120
Speaker 2: by the way, the loser I'm I'm very certain of.

2099
01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:49,960
Speaker 2: If it's Michigan, I'm ninety nine percent certainly they will

2100
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:52,960
Speaker 2: not be in the playoff. In Ohio State, I'm eighty

2101
01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:56,720
Speaker 2: percent certain. Gotta win the resumes of other playoff contenders,

2102
01:55:56,760 --> 01:55:59,280
Speaker 2: the losers of this year's game, I don't think that

2103
01:55:59,360 --> 01:56:01,880
Speaker 2: he is going to earn a spot in the playoff field.

2104
01:56:02,520 --> 01:56:05,720
Speaker 2: Very evenly, match game Michigan has the nation's best scoring defense.

2105
01:56:05,800 --> 01:56:09,400
Speaker 2: Again not exactly Murder's role. They played when they played Maryland,

2106
01:56:09,400 --> 01:56:11,520
Speaker 2: who had some athletes, they gave up twenty four points,

2107
01:56:12,160 --> 01:56:14,200
Speaker 2: but they were allowing nine points a game. Ohio State

2108
01:56:14,280 --> 01:56:17,800
Speaker 2: along nine point three. Ohio State did beat Notre Dame

2109
01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:21,240
Speaker 2: at Notre Dame, and they did beat Penn State as well.

2110
01:56:21,320 --> 01:56:24,680
Speaker 2: Michigan's offense eleventh in the nation thirty eight points per game.

2111
01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:27,080
Speaker 2: But hold that thought. I'm gonna come back to that.

2112
01:56:28,240 --> 01:56:30,560
Speaker 2: There are playmakers on both sides. Marvin Harris. I think

2113
01:56:30,680 --> 01:56:33,320
Speaker 2: the best player in the country Trevion Henderson. He'll be

2114
01:56:33,360 --> 01:56:36,000
Speaker 2: the healthiest who's ever been for this game. He'll come

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Speaker 2: down to Kyle McCord. I'll get to that. And of

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Speaker 2: course Michigan with their trum for at Blake mccorum, Blake Corhum,

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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy and Roman Wilson and then Donovan Edwards. Alright,

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Speaker 2: I mentioned technical factors. The line is three and a half.

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Speaker 2: Michigan's laying three and a half since two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 2: Ohio State he's seventeen and three as an underdog. You

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Speaker 2: can't pooh poo that. The last time they were underdog

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Speaker 2: coincidentally against Michigan in twenty eighteen. Remember the Chase Winovich

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Speaker 2: Revenge Tour. Michigan got beat that day, sixty two to

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Speaker 2: thirty nine. By the way, Hohiouse state, he's nine to

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Speaker 2: zero double revenge games and since nineteen eighty seven only

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Speaker 2: seven matchups featuring two undefeated teams. On Thanksgiving Day we're

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Speaker 2: playing or the weekend every Thanksgiving we're played, usually get

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Speaker 2: to this point in the season. You don't have two

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Speaker 2: undefeated teams playing each other. There is another There isn't

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Speaker 2: gonna be another one. It's only happened seven times in

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Speaker 2: thirty six years. The underdogs are six and one. Those

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Speaker 2: are your fundamental factors. You can't pooh pooh that. But

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Speaker 2: it's not the be all end all either. Let's look

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Speaker 2: at the fundamental factors. If you're Michigan, you're not gonna

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Speaker 2: look at this objectively. You can't. You just never will.

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Speaker 2: But JJ McCarthy without Jim Harbaugh on the sidelines, has

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Speaker 2: not has not produced the same offensively, simply has it.

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Speaker 2: The numbers don't lie yards per pass, yards per game,

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Speaker 2: completion percentage rate points. Did you know that Michigan was

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Speaker 2: averaging forty four points a game with Jim Harbor on

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Speaker 2: the sidelines. They're averaging thirty one points per game without

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Speaker 2: Jim Harbor on the sidelines. And it's not necessarily a

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Speaker 2: small sample size because of the ten games checked out,

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Speaker 2: eleven games Michigan has played this year, five of it.

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Speaker 2: This would be the fifth one. Then Harball's not there.

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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy didn't throw a single interception when Jim Harball

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Speaker 2: is on the sidelines. He's throwing four interceptions without Jim Harball.

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Speaker 2: Now I know Michigan has beat their chests incessantly. They

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Speaker 2: ran the ball thirty two times against Penn State. That's

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Speaker 2: because they couldn't protect JJ McCarthy. Okay, Penn State had

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Speaker 2: two elite pass rushers and they were getting to them.

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Speaker 2: So does Ohio State. By the way, Ohio State, they're

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Speaker 2: number four in total defense, they're number two in pass defense,

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Speaker 2: and Ohio State also has two elite pass rushers and

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Speaker 2: to Milile and Jack Sawyer. Michigan and their defense. They

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Speaker 2: run a Cover three. That's worth noting because Ohio State's

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Speaker 2: quarterback Kyle McCord has thrived against Cover three defenses this

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Speaker 2: year and it's been explosive sixty nine percent completion rate.

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Speaker 2: But it's going to come down a quarterback play. I

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Speaker 2: really believe this Michigan. You know, Maryland average five point

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Speaker 2: three yards per play against Michigan, and yet they turned

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Speaker 2: the ball over three times and almost beat Michigan. Michigan's

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Speaker 2: stepping way up in class in terms of the athletes

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Speaker 2: are going to face against Ohio State. This is a

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Speaker 2: very close coin flip game. Though it's going to come

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Speaker 2: down I think primarily to Kyle McCord, the Ohio State quarterback.

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Speaker 2: If he plays clean, if he can find Marvin Harrison

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Speaker 2: on a hit trout early, which Michigan is susceptible to,

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Speaker 2: and he takes you to the house, it could give

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Speaker 2: him confidence. This is the biggest game of QUORDL have

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Speaker 2: ever played in. J. J. McCarthy's been here, he's even

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Speaker 2: been to the playoffs. If Kyle McCord plays clean, I

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Speaker 2: think Ohio State wins. If JJ McCarthy finds as similar

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Speaker 2: to a passing attack, I think Michigan can win. I've

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Speaker 2: grabbed the points now. I grabbed the points two weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: three weeks ago when the Ohio State was getting five

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Speaker 2: and a half. It's not to three and a half

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Speaker 2: and even three somewhere. I can't back Michigan here. I

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Speaker 2: can't do it. I got a feeling Ohio State gets them.

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Speaker 2: We shall see, we'll analyze it and break it down.

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Speaker 2: There'll be a whole story that takes place before us,

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Speaker 2: and we'll bring it to you Saturday night at eleven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific on The Bernie Fratter Show. We'll see you then.

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Speaker 2: In the meantime, keep it locked up next they're great.

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