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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, get at it Monday morning. Yes, it's the

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Speaker 3: and it is Monday, January thirty first, twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 3: Hat Colorado by birth, Connecticut by choice, it's Chuck Minden Hall.

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Speaker 2: Brother, you're back for another bang. I couldn't be happier.

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Speaker 1: I wish I could take three week vacations like Luke. Man,

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Speaker 4: You know what this brings us together? BC, I'm all down, like,

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Speaker 4: let him stay out wherever he's at, wherever he's at,

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Shaq Masjoori for sliding in Luke's place

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Speaker 3: on Friday. But Chuck back for this Monday show, and

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Speaker 3: it's a loaded one. We're gonna look back at a

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Speaker 3: I think we're about halfway there. I could feel, in

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Speaker 2: But we know heavyweight can be a fountain of youth.

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Speaker 3: As long as he can sh five round championship Cardio,

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Speaker 3: I was very impressed, as you were, with Ryan Bader.

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Speaker 3: But I have no problem with Bader winning it. Why

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Speaker 2: You know, he was a little busy.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't busy enough landing demonstrative strikes, whether on top

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Speaker 4: You know what's great about him too, Man, It's like

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Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, I thought it was a very close round,

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Speaker 1: It could have win you the way.

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Speaker 4: But I think it's it's cool for to be in

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Speaker 3: Well, it's not that I don't want to see it,

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Speaker 3: fact that that Bader had knocked out Fador to win

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Speaker 3: and Fador is coming off of that that upset knockout

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Speaker 3: you can still do that fight. Maybe maybe you want

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Speaker 3: made and then we'll react to it. As you teased

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Speaker 3: six in Paris, and they announced this immediately after Bater's win,

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Speaker 3: check Congo came in the ring. Of course, these two

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Speaker 3: end of it, but forty six year old check Congo

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Speaker 3: still got something. I just feel like Chuck. I mean, look,

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Speaker 3: it's big going to Paris. Yeah, Emma was banned there forever,

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Speaker 3: but I feel like this is the time, man. Just

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Speaker 1: But I can't they still do it though, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 4: In the scant evidence we saw that first fight in

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Speaker 4: I mean, if I'm being honest, so I don't really

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Speaker 4: I see this fight being Bater's fight to lose.

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Speaker 1: I don't really.

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Speaker 4: I don't think the check at forty six years old

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Speaker 1: But man, I'm with you too. I would have been

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Speaker 4: I guess I would have preferred that they want with Vador,

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Speaker 4: especially in that first round when he just about knocks

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Speaker 4: out out Maldowski out that first big right hand that

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Speaker 4: not a big I'm sure the Starry Oschool is not

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Speaker 4: big fans of Ryan Bader at this point, but that

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Speaker 4: I still think that fight is out there, and I

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Speaker 2: So this will be interesting from just that standpoint.

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Speaker 3: Although Belter was already in Paris, UFC has yet to

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Speaker 3: make it to Paris, but as soon as that law changed,

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Speaker 3: of course Belto rolled out. I believe was that Timothy

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Speaker 3: opportunity and closing quickly. Chuck Moldovsky, He's only twenty nine,

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Speaker 3: so you still have to feel like his futures bright.

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Speaker 3: He didn't get you know, handled in this one. He

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Speaker 3: you need to see change from him to get over

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Speaker 3: this hump?

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Speaker 4: Honestly, a little more urgency. You kind of pointed it

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Speaker 4: I mean he he does that. He did have his moments.

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Speaker 4: He's looked very good in the lead up, you know,

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Speaker 4: to this fight, like his previous fights. He's still young

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Speaker 4: you know, fad Or a million ankle more than anything,

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Speaker 4: just being from that camp and everything.

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Speaker 1: So I think he looks good.

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Speaker 4: Man, Maybe a little more urgency kind of knowing what's uh,

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Speaker 1: At the end there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you wonder if these two could end up seeing

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Speaker 3: That Coleman event had a somewhat interesting similar storyline with

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Speaker 3: former UFC lightweight champion Benson Henderson riding a three fight

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Speaker 3: We were wondering as if Islam Mamadov was builled rightfully

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Speaker 3: bellatour debut, beating Brent Premise, the former champ, by split decision.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry at lightweight, Chuck, do you think the judges

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Speaker 3: got it right? Let's start there. I scored it three

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Speaker 3: You give Benson credit. He had the guillotine a round one.

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Speaker 1: I had the same as you.

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Speaker 4: I mean it was kind of a guillotine best like

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Speaker 1: Threat, Benson Henderson.

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Speaker 4: It's weird when you're fighting in your hometown, like right,

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Speaker 4: like he's got his family there, he's in his hometown

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Speaker 1: You always wonder to what extent.

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Speaker 4: The judges are skewed just because the crowd is that

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Speaker 3: And you get inexperienced commissions on some of these states

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Speaker 3: exactly and regularly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, So, I mean I thought I thought it

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Speaker 4: Benson Henderson. He did enough, Like I don't think it's controversial.

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Speaker 4: I thought he did enough that he put there was

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Speaker 4: showed some I mean, dude, he'd lost three fights in

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Speaker 4: a row. I wasn't sure what form you're getting in.

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Speaker 4: I felt like his pressure, the pressure on him in

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Speaker 4: this fight was pretty big, because if you lose this one,

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Speaker 4: I mean you're you're pretty much. I think he's pretty

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Speaker 4: clearly done at that point, or getting very close to it.

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Speaker 4: So to pull it out to dig deep. It was

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Speaker 4: Nobody wanted to fight this guy, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: And I felt like he kind of stepped in and

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Speaker 4: that's kind of vintage you know, Bendo, Right, Like remember

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Speaker 4: he comes Korshkov, same thing nobody want to find. He

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Speaker 4: it just reminds you how good he really is when

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Speaker 1: Up to fight like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And it was interesting Chuck in the post fight interview,

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Speaker 3: for him to have this moment. I feel like, tell

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Speaker 3: expecting to retire.

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Speaker 2: In front of his people.

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Speaker 3: Jug right, it was almost like those I don't know

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Speaker 3: what to do next.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know I was going to win this.

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Speaker 4: You know, now, I agree with you one hundred percent,

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Speaker 4: And I mean that's where that first round became like

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Speaker 4: was just watching the way it all went down, seeing him,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how.

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00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,400
Speaker 4: Close it came to being a submission, but it seemed tight,

441
00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,159
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, when it's happening and you

442
00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,479
Speaker 4: just have these vintage moments. I love these guys who

443
00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,760
Speaker 4: were former champions and they're in the twilight of their careers,

444
00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,920
Speaker 4: but they somehow find that gear. So many times we've

445
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,520
Speaker 4: seen it, there's so grace so few graceful outs in

446
00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 4: the sport. We see guys who just falter down the

447
00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,040
Speaker 4: you know, down the stretch, especially against the guys.

448
00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:45,919
Speaker 1: Who are supposed to beat them.

449
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,360
Speaker 4: They're supposed to be the stake slid under the door situation,

450
00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,080
Speaker 4: and you know, man, he just didn't do it.

451
00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,320
Speaker 1: I think you're right, though.

452
00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,320
Speaker 4: I think he probably looked at it like I'm gonna

453
00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:55,440
Speaker 4: it's like the rocky thing.

454
00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:56,760
Speaker 1: I'm just going to try to go to this.

455
00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,239
Speaker 4: I'm going to put up a good showing, but I'm

456
00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,040
Speaker 4: probably going to lose and this will be it.

457
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,679
Speaker 1: So I think he was a little surprised he won.

458
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,200
Speaker 3: Man. Well, he says his future is uncertain for Islam Mamadov.

459
00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,680
Speaker 3: He didn't you know, he didn't sizzle, but you know

460
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,200
Speaker 3: he didn't look horrible. He was in there against an experienced,

461
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,720
Speaker 3: tough guy. Look, he's got him beating Normaga Medof in

462
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,440
Speaker 3: the corner. And did you see that little moment when

463
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,000
Speaker 3: Mamadov's in the choke and you see coachabib like, if

464
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 3: you tap, I'll f and kill you.

465
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,400
Speaker 2: That's the look that coach a bibad right there.

466
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 3: I gotta believe, given given the iron sharpening iron in

467
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 3: that camp, that Mamadov will be fine. He may not

468
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 3: be front and center in the Smesh Factory's best offerings

469
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 3: for the future like you know Mahachev or Usman Maaga

470
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 3: Madoff appear to be, but he's been pretty damn good though,

471
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 3: just the same chuck.

472
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,200
Speaker 4: It's hilarious to me though, that anybody with that ov

473
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 4: last name Daghistan. You see any of these and they're

474
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,440
Speaker 4: an automatic, like you know, minus three hundred favorite to

475
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:51,960
Speaker 4: beat whoever.

476
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter with their face.

477
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,200
Speaker 4: And at this point across Mma and I have guys

478
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,679
Speaker 4: who are like degenerate gamblers who contact me and every

479
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,120
Speaker 4: time they see a dag standing fight it's like they're

480
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,680
Speaker 4: loading up, and I know they were.

481
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 1: Loading up on this one.

482
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 4: So dude, I mean, that's a lot stacked against you

483
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 4: when you really think about it.

484
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 1: For Benson Henderson, so for him to come through was

485
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:10,880
Speaker 1: pretty cool, man.

486
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, for both, you know, both old guys, both thirty

487
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 3: eight year olds fighting in their room state there though maybe.

488
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 2: Got a little hometown.

489
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 3: I don't know, but look, they survive in advance and

490
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 3: that's what manners. You know who didn't though, survive in advance? Chuck,

491
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 3: who you think I would put this in the first

492
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 3: topic of the show, But Big Tuna Ben Parrish had

493
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 3: become a one night Folk hero in a way that

494
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 3: I couldn't avoid.

495
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 2: So I did question why Belter.

496
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,399
Speaker 3: Was opening the prelimbs, you know, the YouTube fight card

497
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 3: with this and not putting this forced into the main

498
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,120
Speaker 3: card like it's some Greg Hardy side show.

499
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 2: But it turns out in the end that three and

500
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 2: oh Sullivan, Callie, he put it on old Big Tuna.

501
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 2: Your thoughts after this, you know, unique opening bout.

502
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 1: Chuck well Man.

503
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,360
Speaker 4: You know, four months is a nice victory lap. Most

504
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 4: of us don't get those four months to kind of

505
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 4: feel good about ourselves and to's you know, fight bullying

506
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:06,959
Speaker 4: and everything else that was going on. Man, I mean

507
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 4: the guy had kind of emerged as like, you know,

508
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 4: this kind of cult figure in mma over those that time.

509
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 4: This is the kind of fight though that it's a

510
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 4: tough one, right, I mean it was so one sided.

511
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 4: I didn't really feel like he had much of a

512
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 4: chance here. So I felt a little bad for him,

513
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 4: to be honest.

514
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 3: Man, Look, it's on brand though for him to take

515
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,679
Speaker 3: this l because his story is more about kind of

516
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 3: coming over the top and surprising you.

517
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 2: So I think there's some.

518
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 3: Big victories left for Ben Parrish. You know, I think

519
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 3: you gotta matchine. So well, let's let's put it.

520
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 2: You know, big could be a relative word.

521
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 3: I want to see Bellator continue to feature him, and

522
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,719
Speaker 3: here's where I want him to fight. You remember that

523
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 3: meat packer that JK that they put in there against

524
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 3: Jake Hager.

525
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,679
Speaker 1: Remember that cult here, Yeah, if you remember him, yes,

526
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 1: I remember he got.

527
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 2: That fella's name.

528
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 3: They got to make big Tuna against our buddy uncle

529
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 3: Pauly from the from the Slaughterhouse. I'd like to see

530
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 3: that fight, but no, let's see Ben Perish bounce back.

531
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 3: Did you think Sullivan Cawley looked like a future guy

532
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 3: for blat or.

533
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 1: Is it tough to say?

534
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 3: Man?

535
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 1: I mean he looked good in this fight.

536
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 4: But you're like, is it just because Paris is that bad?

537
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, he looked good though, I mean,

538
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 1: he looked good.

539
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 3: I love me some Ben Parrish. All right, we'll keep

540
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 3: it rolling here, Habib, we mentioned him. He had a

541
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 3: busy weekend. He was in Phoenix on Saturday, but on Friday,

542
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,360
Speaker 3: I had the day wrong, so dead wrong me right. Now,

543
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 3: last week it was Friday night Eagle FC forty four

544
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 3: and the promotion, headed by the former UFC lightweight champion,

545
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 3: made its US debut in Miami, Chuck. This turned out

546
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 3: to be a mixed bag of like feel good stories

547
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 3: with Rashad Evans.

548
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a second.

549
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 3: Some you know, decent, elite ish looking MMA. Then there's

550
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 3: celebrity announcers. All in all, when you went back and

551
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 3: sort of, you know, picked across the buffet and sampled

552
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 3: it a little bit, what's your take on the current

553
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 3: status of Eagle FC and what it maybe could be

554
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 3: in the American MMA market moving forward?

555
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 4: You know, man, we've seen so many promotions come and go,

556
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 4: like and I'm not one of those guys who puts

557
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 4: a ton of stock into like the commentary and stuff

558
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 4: like that, unless it's like that crazy Triller event, where

559
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 4: like it was just so mad. It was like a funhouse,

560
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,719
Speaker 4: you know, like that was going on at night, ye are,

561
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 4: But like, uh, you know, I kind of dig it because,

562
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 4: first of all, chill son and is a voice that

563
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 4: you get, you know, we're used to having. I like

564
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 4: his his style. I liked hentersa hudo, you know, like

565
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 4: it was it was fine.

566
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 1: All that was good. The fights themselves were pretty good.

567
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 4: I mean, ultimately, it's always there's always a little bit

568
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 4: of a different skew, right, Like if somebody's fighting out

569
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 4: at UC they're not fighting in Bellator. It's like you

570
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 4: kind of look at them with different eyes and a

571
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 4: different promotion. So like you get guys like u Katana

572
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 4: for instance, or Tyland Spong where you get like you know,

573
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 4: you get like your boy Rashat Evans, and you just

574
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 4: look at them different, like you just kind of it's

575
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 4: like a reinvention.

576
00:24:59,320 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: And so in that.

577
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 4: Aspect, that kind of dig it. It was a very pro

578
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 4: looking show. Some of the camera angles through the fence

579
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 4: and stuff like that were annoying.

580
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: And they did a lot of.

581
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 4: Obstruction stuff and a little bit of vertigo. But besides that,

582
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 4: I thought that everything else was pretty good.

583
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: Besides the vertigo is a good night. No, I actually

584
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 2: thought they were.

585
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 1: Rolling that camera around a little too much. Man.

586
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, I like the ambition.

587
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 3: At least, I thought it looked more professional than your average,

588
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 3: you know, regional MMA show or even want to be

589
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 3: sort of next level show. They're going to have to

590
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 3: build that roster. You have to believe that Habib's smash

591
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 3: Factory pipeline will help that. But I kind of liked

592
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 3: it overall, Chuck, I'll say this, it's an ambitious announced.

593
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: Correct.

594
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 3: I forgot the name of the fellow who was sort

595
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 3: of playing the de facto play by play role, but

596
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 3: you did have with him Chill Son and Henry Suhudo

597
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 3: and Kamara Uswan as you mentioned.

598
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 2: Dude, it was kind of a fun listen to be fair,

599
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

600
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: It was it was.

601
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 4: Different, right, I mean it was like, yeah, that's that's

602
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 4: the thing, as long as it can distinguish itself a

603
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 4: little bit.

604
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 1: And I mean those dudes, they're spot on, man, they

605
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: know what they're looking at. So it was good, all right.

606
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 3: Sergei Karratanov in the main event and well traveled heavyweight

607
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 3: has had some pro boxing experience in the last couple

608
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 3: of years as well. I mean, chuck, he put it

609
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 3: on Tyrone Spong in a second round. Tko.

610
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 2: You'll see a little bit more of that, and have

611
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 2: you seen this shit full mount? All that, but chuck.

612
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 3: The storyline out of this was obviously Rashad Evans, our

613
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 3: friend of the program, really a friend to MMA, the

614
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 3: UFC Hall of Famer. He hadn't won since twenty thirteen,

615
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 3: He hadn't fought in what three four years at forty

616
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 3: two to be fair, he was in there with an

617
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 3: uber Driver and Gabriel Cheko. But dude, Rashad looked like

618
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 3: he turned back the clock from the standpoint of his

619
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 3: speed in wrestling.

620
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 2: How impressed should we be with this?

621
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 4: About as impressed as you think you should be, which

622
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 4: is like, you know, you think he should win this fight.

623
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 4: If he loses this fight, it's a really bad look.

624
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 4: But the fact that he came back and you know him, man,

625
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 4: you work with this guy. He's such a down deruth guy.

626
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 4: Every time I see him, I always ask him, like,

627
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 4: when you're coming back, you know, when you to do

628
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 4: this thing.

629
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: And he's been talking about it for a long time,

630
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: so you did.

631
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 4: Not want to see him in there with a guy

632
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 4: who is, you know, potentially going to put him out,

633
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 4: because that would have been a very sad thing. I

634
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 4: think it was the right sort of thing for a

635
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 4: re entry fight. You think about all the things he's

636
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 4: had to go through too. I remember just even the

637
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 4: UFC two five and two six when he was trying

638
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 4: to fight on those cards in New York, and I

639
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 4: think it was Toronto and he was getting bad testing.

640
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 4: They would not sanction him for the fights, and you

641
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 4: just think at that time, which was a long time

642
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 4: ago now, how hard.

643
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: It was for him.

644
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 4: And he's had multiple setbacks, Like you mentioned, he hasn't

645
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 4: once since twenty thirteen.

646
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: But man, I still always think back to.

647
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 4: The Rashad Evans and I saw little flashes of that

648
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 4: again where he had that swagger man he was walking

649
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 4: across back on the tough days, and then when he

650
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 4: knocked out Chuck Leudell in Atlanta, one of the first

651
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 4: fight cards.

652
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: I was sitting cage side.

653
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 4: At It's just cool to see a guy who wants

654
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 4: it that bad and is willing to train. He looked

655
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 4: in good shape and he's willing to put in the

656
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 4: work and try to he's something different at the end

657
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 4: of his career rather.

658
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 1: Than what had happened to him. So he was kind

659
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: of my feel good story of the weekend man.

660
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 3: To know what he's been through, like mentally, physically, spiritually,

661
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 3: just from the standpoint of like he never really had

662
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,959
Speaker 3: a twilight in MMA because injuries and just kind of

663
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 3: some bad luck, like like let's not forget his last

664
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 3: win in twenty thirteen against Jill's son, and he looked

665
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,959
Speaker 3: like he was ready for another title run. I mean,

666
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 3: he he demolished Chail, and then he had that really

667
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 3: unfortunate stretch with the injury and what the cadaver didn't

668
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 3: work out or whatever the heck that was, and he

669
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 3: had to have the surgery done again. And then when

670
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 3: he's you know, making some desperate moves down to middleweight

671
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 3: and losing to guys that I really have no business

672
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 3: you know, having success against him, that's frustrating.

673
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 2: So to know that.

674
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 3: He healed himself in every way in this good of shape,

675
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 3: not fighting a killer.

676
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I mean to make jokes, but.

677
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 3: Like this guy Gabrielle Cheko was pushed as a submission expert,

678
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 3: and Uncle Chaill spent the whole fight talking about all

679
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 3: the major mistakes this guy was making on the ground.

680
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 3: You wonder if he could have caught a heel hook there,

681
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 3: if he was a little more seasoned. But big win

682
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 3: for Rashad. You just don't want to see him unnecessarily

683
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: step up into a dangerous fight. Is there a world

684
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 3: in which, because we never see this, is there a

685
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 3: world in which a great X you know, next great

686
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 3: fighter can coexist fighting as a like regional gatekeeper because

687
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 3: they just love it.

688
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: Is there a world in that?

689
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: I don't think so, but I mean you could. I would.

690
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 4: I would definitely if he wants to keep going, and obviously,

691
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 4: like they're talking about like.

692
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: Bringing him on for multiple fights, which it's always.

693
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 4: A it's always a little weird when this happens, because

694
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 4: I think there was a point in time where I

695
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 4: didn't want to see Rashad fighting anymore. I was happy

696
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 4: to see what I thought was his retirement. So I

697
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 4: don't want to see him. I'm with you, I don't

698
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 4: want to see him in there against killers. But at

699
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 4: the same time, man, if he can find guys with names,

700
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 4: that kind of makes sense. You know they sometimes they

701
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 4: booked these Twilight Fighters against each other.

702
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 3: Well, I'll throw you one because guess who tweeted about it. Okay,

703
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 3: Tito Ortiz wants a trilogy with rashot Oh.

704
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 4: Man, see that would be I'd be okay with that.

705
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 4: I'd be okay with that type of fight. Is that

706
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 4: something shocked?

707
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 3: I mean it sloppy as shit, but that could be

708
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 3: an Eagle FC like Strong Comaine, right, yeah, or maybe

709
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 3: maybe maybe their biggest fight of the year. We'll see

710
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 3: what happens with them overall.

711
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: I mean that, you know, it wasn't bad, man, it

712
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: wasn't bad.

713
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 2: What'd you think about ray Borg?

714
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 3: Who's Who's somehow only still twenty eight former UFC title challenger,

715
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: had a rough stretch personally and professionally, but he's bounced back.

716
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 3: He had a rough first round against Cody Gibson, but

717
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 3: came back looking strong and said quote afterwards, I'm still

718
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 3: one of the best in the world. Could we see him,

719
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 3: you know, get back into truly elite you know, promotions

720
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 3: again after.

721
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: This, I think so, man. I mean, I thought he

722
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: had it is.

723
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 4: I don't want to say his prime, because honestly, he's

724
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 4: probably just coming into his prime at twenty eight years old. Man.

725
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 4: But when he was younger and fighting in the UFC,

726
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 4: you'd see him fighting. Man, I thought, I put him

727
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 4: up up there with the best in his class. He

728
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 4: was that good. I'm almost of the belief that a

729
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 4: guy like that sometimes has to get out of the UFC.

730
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 4: It's like, you have to get out of the UFC.

731
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 4: I don't know what it was.

732
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: It was.

733
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 4: There was just like a negative cloud kind of hanging

734
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 4: over him. And I know he had his issues, you know,

735
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 4: with his with his kid.

736
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 3: And there was a glass in his eye from the

737
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 3: Habib Connor Dolly there.

738
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes, I mean there's been a lot of issues.

739
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 4: But sometimes if you get out of there, you know,

740
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 4: you just put like you just put an episode behind you.

741
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: You go find your bearings. And I think that's what

742
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: he was doing.

743
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 3: It was.

744
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: It was a great showing. I thought he looked pretty good.

745
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 4: Find your bearings, get a few fights, and then if

746
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 4: you return at some point to that situation, you come

747
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 4: back stronger.

748
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: I think He's one of those guys man like. He

749
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: did not, by.

750
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 4: Any stretch feel like he wasn't still growing into who

751
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 4: he is going to become.

752
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: So I still believe in him.

753
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 3: Man to close on Habib's promotion moving forward, and obviously

754
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 3: like manage or the Stars, l e Abdelazi's had a

755
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 3: big role in this. You saw a lot of dominance

756
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 3: MMA fighters in the crowd. Even Joe You Want a

757
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 3: Champion was in the crowd too. They got a good

758
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 3: South Florida sort of celebrity turnout. My big question is what, like,

759
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 3: who are you trying to be in this space. It's

760
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 3: very crowded of course with UFC, Belatoor, PFL and sometimes

761
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 3: one you know having stake in terms of the big names,

762
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 3: and then you've got your your feeder promotions who sort

763
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 3: of know their role as feeder promotions. I think it'll

764
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 3: be interesting to see what Habib sort of defines long

765
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 3: term is his own lane. I say that because on

766
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 3: one hand, he was asked about fighter pay and fighter

767
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 3: treatment in the UFC, and he had a quote before

768
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 3: the fight cards saying about UFC and Belator if they

769
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 3: don't treat good fighters or I guess he's saying they're fighters.

770
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 2: Good Eagle FC is here.

771
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 3: Okay. That leads me to believe he wants to be

772
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 3: something that competes. But then he's also revealing that he

773
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 3: made an offer to Jake Paul. Yeah, we offered him.

774
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 3: We offered him, Habib said, we offered him fight. Now

775
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: we're waiting for answer if he wants, we're here, Chuck.

776
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: I just don't think that's the right play for this brand,

777
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 3: right Well.

778
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 4: It tells me that they're sort of still groping for

779
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 4: their identity a little bit.

780
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: And honestly, you're when you're in their position.

781
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 4: You have the name, you're associated with, beibn, Nomaga made off,

782
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 4: you have some guys that have name value. I think

783
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 4: that that's what you're trying to do. You're trying to

784
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 4: find the hook. I don't know what direction it's going

785
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 4: to go. I almost like because we know, like we

786
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 4: talk about fighter pay, we talk about all this stuff.

787
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 4: We know what the UFC pays its fighters. We know

788
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 4: what Belletore pays its fighters. You almost want to have

789
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 4: as many promotions that are viable on a national scale

790
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 4: like that with good you know, streaming or TV deals

791
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 4: and all that for these fighters to want to go

792
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 4: to that as possible. So in my mind, the most

793
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 4: valuable thing that they could do is to be that right,

794
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 4: to be the other another alternative to those and basically,

795
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 4: you know, maybe you have some names like Rashad Evans,

796
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 4: maybe you have a Caratana, but you're also have some

797
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,239
Speaker 4: young guys. I think that that's the best, you know,

798
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 4: rooting system for them to start getting rolling. I don't

799
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 4: know about the I don't know about the Jake Paul stuff.

800
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 4: That's kind of it's like when you get into that game,

801
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 4: it's a it's a whole different ballgame, and sometimes those

802
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 4: places can go belly up pretty quick.

803
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

804
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 3: Also Cambach in this same sort of level of space,

805
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 3: We'll see where he goes. If MMA Fighter pay continues

806
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 3: to be a monster topic, Chuck, you can be uh,

807
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 3: you can feel good knowing that at the highest ends

808
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 3: of boxing they still getting rich batch uh big time news.

809
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 3: Over the last few days, we know Tyson Fury will

810
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 3: not be allowed to see his foe step aside to

811
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 3: set up the Alexander Usik undisputed championship fight. So Fury's

812
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 3: gonna face mandatory challenger and really the best heavyweight in

813
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 3: the world who doesn't have a title at the moment,

814
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 3: Dillian White, and they went to a per spid for

815
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 3: this WBC title man fight, and Frank Warren, the co

816
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 3: promoter of Tyson Fury who runs Queensberry Promotions out of England,

817
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 3: set a new boxing purse bid record. You see the

818
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 3: tweet there by Dan Rayfiel committing forty one and a

819
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 3: quarter million dollars to earn the right to stage Tyson

820
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 3: Fury versus Dillion White. The targeted date for this fight

821
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 3: Chuck April twenty third in the UK. They want to

822
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 3: do a massive you know, outdoor soccer stadium. The fight's

823
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 3: gonna air on ESPN pay per view because Fury, who's

824
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 3: also co promoted by Bob Aram of Top Rank, that's

825
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 3: the side of the street he sits on. But you

826
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: know quickly about the money here if I'm right, I

827
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 3: believe the previous record for a purse bid and if

828
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: anyone doesn't know in boxing when you got fighters on

829
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 3: opposite ends of the street, but they get mandated by

830
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 3: the sanctioning body, by the WBCs, meaning you guys have

831
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 3: to fight next. If the two sides can't come up

832
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 3: with a deal on which network will will run it,

833
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 3: which promoter will be the lead?

834
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 2: They go to a blind purse bid.

835
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 3: I think the record, Chuck, was twenty seven million when

836
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 3: Vladimir Klitschko fought Alexander Povetkin. Like you know, seven eight

837
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 3: years ago, there was a rich man in Russia who

838
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 3: put up a just absurd amount, put up like twenty

839
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: seven million so he could bring that fight to Moscow.

840
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 3: This not only shatters that record, but Eddie Hearn of

841
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 3: Matchroom Sport, who promotes Dillon White and of course promotes

842
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 3: Anthony Joshua and has ties with his own he bid

843
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 3: blindly thirty three million and came in second place.

844
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: Chuck.

845
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 3: It's interesting to have you on today as a more

846
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 3: of an MMA only guy. When you see this type

847
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 3: of cashola being thrown around for guys not named Floyd

848
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 3: or Canelo. Good time to be alive on the on

849
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 3: the heavyweight boxing scene, right.

850
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 4: So is Warren kicking himself that he went to forty

851
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 4: one million rather than just like getting thirty four million?

852
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 3: Like?

853
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: Is that is that going?

854
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 4: I like, is you shattered? Like it was not even close?

855
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 4: This those types of numbers on the heels of this.

856
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 4: Francis and Gano you know, getting six hundred thousand dollars,

857
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 4: you know, purse, and we don't know the full like

858
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 4: the full extent of that, but it's it's absurd, even

859
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 4: the step aside, you know, stuff that was going on

860
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 4: on the sidelines where they were trying to work out

861
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 4: to get you sick in there quicker again straight like

862
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 4: the step aside, like with doing.

863
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 1: White and all that stuff.

864
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 4: It's like he was going to he won a lot

865
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 4: of either way, right, Like you either stepping aside making

866
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 4: a lot of money, probably more money than you could

867
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 4: making an MMA at all, or he is getting seven

868
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 4: million dollars and potentially almost twelve million dollars. It's just

869
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 4: a that's that's a lot of winner right there, man,

870
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 4: and we don't have that at MMA. It's like it's

871
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 4: the craziest thing ever to see those numbers so close together, right,

872
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 4: like we shake my headshot.

873
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

874
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,479
Speaker 3: I get, you know, I get a lot of fans

875
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 3: tweeting back at me and going, hey, stupid, Uh you're

876
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 3: the one that should know this. Obviously, those elite main

877
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 3: eventors in UFC are are getting a couple extra million

878
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 3: in pay per viewpoints. It's like, okay, you know a

879
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 3: couple of them that can produce big pay per views. Yes,

880
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 3: a John Jones, a gsp A, A Ron de Rousey, Economcgregor.

881
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 3: They'll receive a couple million extra. I've always argued they

882
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 3: may get a little bit more as well, because UFC,

883
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 3: I believe Chuck wants the outward image to be that

884
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 3: they don't pay people, so they don't have to pay people, right,

885
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 3: they can throw it to who they need to behind

886
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 3: the scenes.

887
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 2: But just the facts are staggering. Here's a fact.

888
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,479
Speaker 3: Gary Russell Junior, who headlines Showtime Boxing two weeks ago,

889
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 3: made more in that mandatory title defense, which he lost.

890
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 3: By the way, he made more in that than the

891
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 3: entire UFC two seventy card. Sean Porter as the B

892
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: side of his pay per view against Terrence Crawford last November,

893
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 3: made three times what the entire UFC card did. Chuck,

894
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 3: It's not like boxing has one fight a year where

895
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 3: everybody gets paid and then that's it and the rest

896
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 3: of the sport is dead. I mean, this is obviously

897
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 3: the highest end with this heavyweight bout. And if you're

898
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 3: looking for specific numbers based on these percentage split ordered

899
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 3: by the WBC, which They do it based on the

900
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 3: fighter's popularity level in terms of what they've previously brought

901
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 3: in and made. Fury will make twenty nine and a

902
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 3: half million, Dillion White will make a career high seven

903
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 3: point three.

904
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: And here's the cool part.

905
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 3: The final ten percent of the purse, which amounts to

906
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 3: four point one million, which is what four times the

907
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: amount of what everybody got paid or two times that.

908
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: Goes to the winner.

909
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like a bonus winner take all.

910
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 3: Now, if you're not a boxing fan, Dillion White is

911
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 3: very capable of pulling the upset here. This will be

912
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 3: a very good fight. Looking forward to that April twenty third,

913
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 3: But damn they getting paid, chuck to keep it here.

914
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 3: Topic three, a couple pieces of boxing news. Kenel Alvarez

915
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 3: is mulling, of course, a May seventh return, probably last Vegas.

916
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 3: He wants to get back on that schedule of Sinko

917
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 3: to Myo weekend in May, Mexican Independence Day weekend in September,

918
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 3: both in Las Vegas. Here's what we hear from ESPN's

919
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: Mike Coppinger that Canelo's fielding two different offers, won a

920
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 3: one off fight with the PBC to fight middleway champion

921
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 3: Jermal Charlow in May at one hundred and sixty eight

922
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: pounds for all belts, and the other one a two

923
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 3: fight deal with Eddie Hern and his own that would

924
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 3: see him move back up to light heavyweight, fight unbeaten

925
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 3: champion Dmitri Beevol for the WBA title in May, and

926
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 3: then come back in September in a trilogy against Kennati Glufkin,

927
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 3: also at super middleweight.

928
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 2: Chuck, you come in and out for Canelo fights. It's

929
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 2: the biggest name in the sport.

930
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 3: Who would you want to see him face next as

931
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 3: a guy on the outside.

932
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 4: Looking in here as a guy on the outside, I

933
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 4: would like to, But I mean I'm casual by that standard, right,

934
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 4: but I would I would like to see that trilogy

935
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 4: fight with Triple G. So if it can happen in

936
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 4: September and you get two fights out of that deal,

937
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 4: that's the one I prefer. But I mean, honestly, that

938
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 4: guy has got the world eating out of his hand,

939
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 4: doesn't he Like he's like, after the hold his.

940
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: Zone, what's happened there? And now he's able to kind

941
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: of pick and choose.

942
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 4: I always again, this is just like we were talking

943
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 4: about very few MMA fighters put themselves in positions to

944
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 4: make these kinds of decisions. I don't feel like there's

945
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 4: a bat had a bad route for him here, man.

946
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 4: But honestly, if I could choose it, though, I'd like

947
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 4: to see the Triple G thing happen, and I think.

948
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: A lot of fans would.

949
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 3: And I'm sort of so close in in the game

950
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: I realized Triple G is a little get, a little washy.

951
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 3: I have fear that that's just going to be a

952
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 3: one side. But maybe that's more to me. Yeah, maybe

953
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 3: that's more of me being a Triple G fan and

954
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 3: lamenting the fact that he had to wait so long

955
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 3: to fight the best. But I think the two fight

956
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 3: offer is kind of meaningless from the standpoint that Canelo

957
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 3: has all the power. He's the free agent promotionally in

958
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 3: network wise, who can fight anybody for the most amount

959
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 3: of money. So it's not like he's going to go, oh,

960
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 3: give me the security of the two fight deal necessarily, right.

961
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 3: I do think Jamal Charlow for May at least is

962
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 3: the biggest pay per view he can make, and would

963
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 3: be you know, it would be would be big, whether

964
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 3: it's on showtime or Fox. It'd be a very interesting

965
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 3: style matchup. I kind of hope he goes in that direction,

966
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 3: but I have no problem Chuckphy fights one the light

967
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 3: heavyweight champions. Whatever.

968
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 4: He's going right now because he's got time, right, He's

969
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 4: got a little bit of time. Is he doing some

970
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 4: golf tournament or something like that.

971
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 2: He's living it up.

972
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a selecting his life, man.

973
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: He's living the.

974
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 3: Celebrity golf stuff. He's showing up at that rave with

975
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 3: that F one driver doing drunken karaoke, and he's living it.

976
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: I love it.

977
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 3: I love it. He's wearing pajamas everywhere he goes. Speaking

978
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 3: of boxing, Chuck, I know this is going to fire

979
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 3: you up. The biggest fight in women's boxing history, at

980
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 3: least from a credential versus credential standpoint number one versus.

981
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: Two pound for pound.

982
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 3: It is booked, It has made April thirtieth Madison Square Garden.

983
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 3: It'll air on his own when Katie Taylor brings her

984
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 3: four lightweight titles against seven division champion Amanda Serrano.

985
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: Chuck, We've been building to this a long ass time.

986
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 3: Now that Jake Paul and MVP Promotions got involved, that

987
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 3: raised the stature of it. Look style for style, Chuck,

988
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 3: this is the fight in women's history. I know we

989
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 3: saw Leila Lei versus Christy Martin, and you know, I mean,

990
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 3: I know we've seen a couple sort of celebrity matchups,

991
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 3: but this is the goods right here, I say, Chuck,

992
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 3: this is the time to make a statement and change

993
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 3: these archaic women's boxing rules of two minute rounds, of

994
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 3: ten round championship fights, of giant ask gloves and do

995
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 3: what's right here.

996
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 4: You know, I agree with you, man. You know it's

997
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 4: a weird thing because coming from the MMA side, I

998
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 4: know you saw this whole thing too. There were critics,

999
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 4: right there, are critics who didn't think there was going

1000
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 4: to be a draw. I know, we're going to talk

1001
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 4: about in some of that Bob Aaron stuff in a minute,

1002
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 4: but like when there were critics about female involvement in

1003
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 4: MMA cage fights and all that stuff, the greatest thing

1004
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 4: that the UFC ever did, and this was obviously Scott

1005
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 4: Kocher before that was Strikeforce and other promotions before, but

1006
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 4: was to say, like, we're going to do exactly the

1007
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 4: same as what the men have going on, right, They're

1008
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 4: going to do five minute rounds are going to do

1009
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 4: everything put them on. You know, you get Ronda Ralsey,

1010
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 4: she makes this crossover. Dana White discovers that there's a

1011
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 4: cash cow and I mean a transcendent, and it's a weird.

1012
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 4: It's a weird thing when people don't you know what

1013
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 4: I mean, like like one side of it in combat

1014
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 4: sports doesn't really understand that that's a possibility.

1015
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: It is a huge possibility.

1016
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 4: And I really think that this particular fight happening at

1017
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 4: Madison Square Garden, I'm kind of getting a love I

1018
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 4: feel like a lot of MMA people are paying attention

1019
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 4: to it. This is the kind of fight they could

1020
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 4: put it over in the biggest kind of way, so

1021
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 4: they have I agree with you on hundred percent. It

1022
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,959
Speaker 4: should be exactly like a men's fight in that sense.

1023
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 4: There's really no reason to make these modifications at this point.

1024
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 3: Shout out to Eddy Hearn, Shout out to Jake Paul,

1025
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 3: Shout out to everyone involved. I'm glad both of these

1026
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 3: women are going to get paid. I'm glad style wise, look,

1027
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 3: this is going to be a war. I mean, Katie

1028
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 3: Taylor is such an aggressive, come forward boxer. Serrano's a slugger,

1029
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: who could box or brawl, that she can do it all.

1030
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 3: This is going to be fun, but not everybody loves it.

1031
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 3: So Chuck, here's the deal. When you get really old,

1032
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 3: if they keep putting a microphone in front of you,

1033
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 3: eventually you're going to have a really bad Bob Feller moment.

1034
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 3: What I mean by that is, remember when Bob Feller

1035
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 3: was like ninety one and they had him on like

1036
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 3: Sports Center on a phoner and he said some disparaging,

1037
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: quasi racist, misogynist commat I forgot what it was, and

1038
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 3: people are just like, dude, what do you expect? This

1039
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 3: guy's born in like nineteen fifteen. All right, no excuse

1040
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 3: in the modern era. But Bob Ara, I'm the CEO

1041
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,959
Speaker 3: of Top Rank. That same night, April thirtieth, he's gonna

1042
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 3: have a can't miss fight in Las Vegas when Shaker

1043
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 3: Stevenson and Oscar Valdez unified titles at one thirty. So

1044
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 3: he was asked whether you know that'll be a problem

1045
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 3: going to head to head. Here's Bob's response, ESPN couldn't

1046
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 3: care less as good as a.

1047
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: Fight that is. Come on.

1048
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 3: For whatever reason, people don't particularly pay attention to women's fights. Chuck,

1049
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 3: This statement does not wear well when MICHAELA. Mayer, one

1050
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 3: of the top rising women's boxers, is like a featured

1051
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 3: player on top Rank and ESPN. In fact, they put

1052
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 3: her on the undercard commentary team because she's, you know,

1053
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: sort of a growing stuff.

1054
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: Are you had Jake Paul respond with a tweet that.

1055
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,479
Speaker 3: Said, men like this dinosaur are the reason women haven't

1056
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 3: been given a fair shake in many parts of society.

1057
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 3: Is Grandpa just telling the truth, Chuck? Or is it

1058
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 3: a time that we removed this like a misogyny from

1059
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:16,959
Speaker 3: the game.

1060
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, I was just mentioning the Dana

1061
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 4: White thing, right, He was like women and never fight

1062
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 4: in UFC. As soon as it happens, you see the

1063
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 4: full potential of it. It's really it comes down to,

1064
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 4: I honestly believe there's a huge appetite for combat sports

1065
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 4: and a competitive and if you've got transcendent if you've

1066
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 4: got transcendent players like people who are very good can

1067
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 4: back it up but can actually talk to talk, it

1068
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 4: doesn't matter. I mean, I feel like people will pay

1069
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 4: attention to a big fight. They'll pay attention to a

1070
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,439
Speaker 4: big fight. But Bob Er, I mean I just feel

1071
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 4: like every time Bob aeronins brought up at this point,

1072
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 4: it's like he was ten years old when the freaking

1073
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 4: Great Depression ended.

1074
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, yeah, he's a teenager when World War Two ended.

1075
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: I mean this guy was like, he's like you throw

1076
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: back to some other time.

1077
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 4: The fight world that he knew back in the day

1078
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 4: is not the same thing. And honestly, man, as crazy

1079
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 4: as it sounds, if you're trusting business sense and understanding

1080
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 4: of where things are at the pulse of what's happening,

1081
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 4: I'm trusting a Jake Paul over a bomber.

1082
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: At this point, he's out. He's out of touch. Man.

1083
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 3: We'll get into it later in the show. Of course,

1084
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 3: people want to hear our take on this disc track,

1085
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 3: but Jake Paul is using his platform to go after

1086
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 3: certain things that we could say are wrong about combat sports.

1087
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 3: So it's just interesting, right, you know it was god Bob. Yeah,

1088
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 3: thanks Bob, Thanks Bob. In like boxing stuff actually happens

1089
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 3: all the time.

1090
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: I would have liked to have heard Luke's take on

1091
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: this one. Man, I gotta be honest.

1092
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 3: Youll brick shot the fuck up, you little brick. All right.

1093
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: We mentioned Chuck for Topic four.

1094
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 3: We mentioned that Canelo alvas and boxing owns a kind

1095
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 3: of leverage and ability to move around and call his

1096
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 3: own shot that nobody else does. He's the pomp for

1097
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 3: pound king, He's the biggest.

1098
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 2: Draw on the sport.

1099
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 3: It makes sense. How about Kayla Harrison, the free agent

1100
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 3: kind of trying the same thing but ineffectively. Here's the deal.

1101
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 3: Kayla Harrison caught up with MM A junkiees Danny Segura,

1102
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 3: friend of the program MMA beat alumni, and she says, quote,

1103
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 3: the UFC made a good starting offer, but PFL is

1104
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: definitely the front runner. Now, Chuck, here's that's an interesting

1105
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 3: free agency update. I think from the beginning, I believe

1106
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 3: PFL had the best chance financially to lure her.

1107
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 2: But here's the interesting part that she told.

1108
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 3: Danny, I had a plan in my head of what

1109
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 3: I wanted to do that would have been honestly, ridiculously badass.

1110
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 3: You guys would have all said, all right, she's the goat,

1111
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 3: we will shut up now. It was going to involve

1112
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 3: multiple promotions, multiple belts, multiple weight classes, kill a legend

1113
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 3: to become a legend. It was going to be badass.

1114
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 3: But it didn't pan out, chuck. That tells me she

1115
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 3: had an idea to essentially go to you know, I'm

1116
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 3: paraphrasing here or guessing, go to Bellatorn, fight cydeborgon a

1117
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 3: one fight deal or whatever, go to UFC and fight

1118
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 3: Noonas and just kind of jump around like House of

1119
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 3: Pain and show people that she's the best. The MMA

1120
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 3: promoters they don't want anything to do with this type

1121
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 3: of business plan, you know what I'm saying.

1122
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 4: No, that's the problem, right, and especially the UFC. I

1123
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 4: feel like Scott Kocher is actually open minded when it

1124
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 4: comes to co promotion or like lending or you know,

1125
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 4: any of that sort of thing. But the UFC has

1126
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 4: absolutely closed off or traditionally has been to that sort

1127
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 4: of thing. But it's strange in her position. In her position,

1128
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 4: PFL is basically a slam dunk for her to go

1129
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 4: cash another million dollars and then whatever she can get

1130
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 4: endorsement wise. Besides that, I mean, that's the route, right,

1131
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 4: especially if you're going to have to sit on the sidelines. Now, well,

1132
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 4: Juliana Pena plays out the sequel right with Amanda Nunaz

1133
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 4: and that can't happen for a while. I just I

1134
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 4: can't see why you would do anything. Her star power

1135
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 4: is not going anywhere, man. I feel like she has

1136
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 4: learned over the course of like, you know, the last

1137
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 4: couple of years, how to use her platform to advantage

1138
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 4: and put herself in a position where she's negotiating these

1139
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 4: kinds of things. I only feel like she's going to

1140
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 4: get bigger through this year. Even if she fights nobody's

1141
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, She's only gonna in whatever

1142
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 4: it is. I do feel like, you know, there's that

1143
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 4: footage of her like cussing when Amanda Nunaz is losing

1144
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 4: the fight. I know what's you know. I know they

1145
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 4: were teammates, all the things that are kind of going on,

1146
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 4: the fallout, Amanda opening her own gym, all that stuff.

1147
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 4: But I really believe that that was a big time.

1148
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: You know, payday for her. If she was going to

1149
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 1: segue to the UFC, that was it.

1150
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 4: And once that happened, the PFL I think was the

1151
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 4: fore runner from that part. Right Like from that point on,

1152
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 4: it's a million bucks. I mean literally, it's like it's

1153
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 4: she can go to make that deposit tomorrow.

1154
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 3: The only thing about that PFL million bucks is it

1155
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 3: comes in a short tournament season format, and that's why

1156
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 3: she told Segura it'd be impossible for her to make

1157
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 3: one hundred and forty five pounds four times in five

1158
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 3: a half and a half months to complete the PFL

1159
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 3: tournament and schedule, not tournament, regular season and play off

1160
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 3: to get what I'm saying, but that she.

1161
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 2: Would have to be a one to fifty five.

1162
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 3: I got the feeling, Chuck that she's like, all right,

1163
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 3: I'll go back to PFL if I have to. I

1164
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 3: know I can jack up my price there a little

1165
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 3: bit more and sort of, like you said, continue to

1166
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 3: push my brand and dominance out there. But I think

1167
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 3: she either needs Cyborgan Bellatur or any of the elites

1168
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 3: in ufced A fully stamp that she is.

1169
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: I agree with you, you know.

1170
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 3: Top three pound for pound, maybe even number one for

1171
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 3: all we know. And I think that you know, Luke

1172
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 3: and I have debated this for months, that she wants

1173
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 3: to be great so badly that as much as PFL

1174
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 3: will make the most dollars and cents, I just wonder

1175
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 3: if UFC can just jack that up a little bit more,

1176
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 3: whether she just bites at it right. And I love

1177
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 3: the ambition of looking at this like I'm the star.

1178
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 3: I want to change the way stars are presented. But

1179
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 3: what level of superstarchuck would it take for somebody to

1180
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 3: get to that point where they can call their shots

1181
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:56,479
Speaker 3: in a Canelo like way.

1182
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: You know, she's not there with full respects.

1183
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 4: Were watching him Ghanu, I mean we're watching in Ghana

1184
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 4: like this is a guy who put himself in a position.

1185
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 4: He's gambling on himself, all this stuff. He wasn't able

1186
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 4: to really budget.

1187
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 5: You.

1188
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: We'll have to see how that plays up.

1189
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 4: But I do think that Kayla Harrison has I mean,

1190
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 4: she has as much shine as you can possibly have

1191
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 4: outside the OC coming in. If she were to come in,

1192
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 4: that opens up so many possibilities. Obviously, that Painya thing,

1193
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 4: If Noonas goes through her, there's a whole you know,

1194
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 4: that thing is revisited. You could almost start to put

1195
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 4: an asterisk on the first fight. I don't think it

1196
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 4: was a fluke, but like you could start to put

1197
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 4: an asterisk that whatever, being complacent in that fight. Those

1198
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 4: big fights are there. The only thing that sucks about

1199
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 4: her going to PFL is I don't know if Chris

1200
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 4: Cyborg will still have the same you know, Panash coming

1201
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 4: out of twenty twenty two and stuff like that.

1202
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: So I'd rather see it now.

1203
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 4: You'd rather see it now while they're kind of at

1204
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 4: these high places in their marketability and just general interest,

1205
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 4: than down the line.

1206
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 3: Well PFL just signed last year, or Julia bud the

1207
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 3: former Belator featherweight champion. You wonder if someone's going to

1208
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 3: pick up Megan Anderson, who's you know, a big one

1209
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 3: forty five her and would be an interesting sort of

1210
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 3: opponent if PFL can grab her. You know, I kind

1211
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 3: of you know, if I it's weird, I want to

1212
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 3: see Kayla tomorrow in UFC against the very best. But

1213
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 3: if I could storybook this for her, and I have

1214
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 3: no idea what the talks between her and Bellator were

1215
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 3: or if it was ever serious, I kind of feel

1216
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 3: like the natural progression would be go to Bellator, prove

1217
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 3: you can beat somebody as legendary a cyborg first on

1218
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 3: a short contract, and then go to UFC from there.

1219
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 4: But you know that's escalation. If you did it in

1220
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 4: that route like that, she would be huge. I mean,

1221
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 4: I think that at that point, especially especially if it's

1222
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 4: a man in noon as she recaptures her title, and

1223
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 4: that that was the escalation. Harrison's coming off of a

1224
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 4: Cyborg victory. I mean, can you imagine how big that

1225
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,720
Speaker 4: fight would be? That would be huge, man, it'd be monster.

1226
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 3: And her final quote in her future was anything I

1227
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 3: signed with any promotion will be very very short contracts.

1228
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 3: You can't buy my soul end quote. I mean that

1229
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 3: makes sense because she doesn't want to get locked in anywhere.

1230
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 3: Maybe what you know, probably probably one more PFL season

1231
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 3: and then get the money with UFC. That's probably the past.

1232
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: The greatest thing though, is the PFL.

1233
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 4: Like, I don't know how much people would be paying

1234
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 4: attention to it without Kayla Harrison.

1235
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I feel like a lot

1236
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: of there's a lot.

1237
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 2: Of Smartcage fans out there apparently.

1238
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:13,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1239
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's a very intelligent cage.

1240
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 2: You got to give it that, Okay, it is that.

1241
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: It is that.

1242
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 4: But I mean, honestly, it's like I think that it's

1243
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 4: a boon for them to kind of have her, obviously,

1244
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 4: but like she draws the eyes.

1245
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: As she's proven that she's she's a star in the

1246
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: making there.

1247
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right. Topic five, Chuck, We always

1248
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 3: close with some quick hitters. People think we do it

1249
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 3: because we're lazy, but there's just a lot of fun

1250
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 3: news out there that you know. I want the people

1251
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 3: to get your take. Number one. Speaking of Manager of

1252
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 3: the Stars Ali Abdalazi's, he says publicly that the best

1253
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 3: featherweight fighter in the world today, Zabeat Maga med Scherapov,

1254
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 3: is back training and has entered the USADA pool. Ali

1255
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 3: plans to speak with UFC next week about Zabeat's potential return,

1256
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 3: and he also had a cryptic IG post Maga Metchjeripov

1257
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 3: which said, on February twenty eighth, I will destroy someone, Chuck.

1258
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 2: This is the guy. Okay.

1259
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 3: I saw the third round against Jeremy Stevens and I'm

1260
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 3: still telling you this is the damn guy. I love

1261
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 3: me somes the beat. Can we get excited now that

1262
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 3: it's not all over that this is that, this is that,

1263
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 3: this is happening.

1264
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: Well, regardless if we can or not, I'm excited.

1265
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 4: I'm like you, man, I had him kind of dogeared

1266
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 4: to be the guy who is going to take over

1267
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 4: that division at one point. He adds so much dimension

1268
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 4: to that that whole weight class. But man, I gotta say,

1269
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 4: like the one thing that you know, you get asked

1270
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 4: a lot of questions, the one question that we get

1271
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 4: all the time on the other podcast, and just I've

1272
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,439
Speaker 4: had people asking me He's like, what's Upen was a beat?

1273
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: When is the Beat coming back? And it's like nobody

1274
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: really knows. Man.

1275
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like we've been in this for

1276
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 4: the last year, year and a half. You've been in

1277
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 4: this like holding pattern, not sure if he was going

1278
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 4: to come back. So the fact that he's coming back

1279
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 4: at all or that all signs points to that is

1280
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 4: good news.

1281
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: I love him. I think he's an awesome fighter. Man.

1282
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 4: He's been around the guys who they know what they're doing,

1283
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 4: and I feel like we're only scratching the surface. I

1284
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 4: don't even feel like I know his entire arsenal yet,

1285
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 4: like where he was at and the guys who's being

1286
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 4: Like the Calvin Cator fight that people keep talking about, Yeah,

1287
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 4: but he was kind of changing it.

1288
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: If it's a five round fight, it's going to be different.

1289
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: I Mean.

1290
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 4: The truth is, we just don't have all the answers

1291
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 4: with the Beat so far. So I'm excited to see

1292
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 4: him back in there to fill in those blanks.

1293
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: To be honest, man.

1294
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, did I say Jeremy Sevens? I meant that third

1295
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,919
Speaker 3: round with Calvin Cator. Yeah, yeah, it got a little

1296
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 3: sideways for him, of course.

1297
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

1298
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 3: I mean, like, you know, I joke around, but I

1299
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 3: think he has the potential to be the best. He's

1300
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 3: got a lot to prove to us if you can

1301
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 3: get back, could be thirty one in March. But would

1302
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 3: just like to see him back in any form as

1303
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 3: long as he's healthy to do that. He presents a

1304
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 3: very very interesting skill set for this division in size

1305
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 3: and smarts and all that. Chuck Connor McGregor revealed in

1306
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 3: an Instagram post, which of course served as a commercial

1307
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 3: for Proper twelve just the same that he's close to

1308
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 3: starting a training camp, which would make sense because we're

1309
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 3: guessing that he's coming back for International Fight Week in July,

1310
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 3: but will do so sober, in quote complete abstension from alcohol.

1311
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 2: Chuck.

1312
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:14,240
Speaker 3: This would be different, of course, from the Habib Demaga

1313
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 3: Metoff training camp, in which he admit he let's He

1314
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 3: sort of said it without saying it, that the whole

1315
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 3: Habib camp was like Rockstar party lifestyle. If you know

1316
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 3: where I'm going with that, Okay, White lightning broa. That's

1317
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 3: where I'm going with that, dude. I don't know if

1318
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 3: the Dustin Pourier comeback fight camps had the same you

1319
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 3: know had I know he was he looked great against

1320
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 3: Cowboy in the camp and in the fight. I don't

1321
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 3: know if he went back on the sauce for the

1322
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 3: two Dustin fights. But does this do anything? Because when

1323
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 3: you look, when you're Connor, you're always going to have

1324
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 3: a ninth live. There's always going to be people going,

1325
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 3: you know what, f it? I believe in this guy again?

1326
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 3: Does the idea of sobriety and training camp make you

1327
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 3: believe again?

1328
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: Why not? Man?

1329
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, if that's really the if that's the play,

1330
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 4: if that's kind of the direction he wants to, it's

1331
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 4: like it's just one more like little subtle seed planted

1332
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 4: right from him to say, like, you know what, man,

1333
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 4: I wasn't taking it as serious as I should have

1334
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 4: been or whatever. You know, it's like you can keep

1335
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 4: planting these seeds. If that's really the case, and if

1336
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 4: sobriety's going to help him get back where he was at,

1337
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 4: I'm all for it, man, But I don't know. It'll

1338
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 4: be interesting to see right, Like, it's it's interesting to

1339
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 4: see a whiskey baron swearing off the sauce going in.

1340
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 4: I mean it should be just kind of taken for

1341
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 4: granted that probably you're doing that. But this is Connor McGregor,

1342
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 4: a different a whole different animal in this game.

1343
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: Man.

1344
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 3: All Right, if UFC does move forward with Dustin Poier

1345
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 3: versus Nats, which Dana just said what last week, I

1346
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 3: want it and both fighters want it, so let's book

1347
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 3: it already.

1348
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 2: Who does Connor fight in July?

1349
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 4: God? Man, I would love to see him fight Max Holloway,

1350
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 4: but I don't think that's gonna happen.

1351
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: Who do you like?

1352
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 3: I mean, the thing about when he fought Cowboy was yes,

1353
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 3: it was a it was a soft it was a

1354
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 3: get well fight, Okay, yeah, yes, but it was under

1355
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 3: the auspices that he was going to fight three times

1356
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 3: that calendar year, something that got taken away by COVID.

1357
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, his season right has that it called it?

1358
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, if we're under the belief that Connor.

1359
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 3: Is ready to go back on a full time schedule

1360
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 3: for the first time in a long time, I mean

1361
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 3: you can argue last year was a was a he

1362
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 3: tried a full time schedule, he fought twice and then

1363
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 3: got injured. But if he's willing to do it and

1364
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 3: considering the injury, could I be coaxed into some in

1365
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 3: between fight that's a it's a softer it's it's not

1366
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 3: a soft landing on the cowboy level, But it's also

1367
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 3: not a title fight or a Jorge Masvidal pay per

1368
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 3: view fight, Like what about him versus RDA, dude, it's

1369
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 3: not there's nothing soft about that. For the record, there's

1370
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 3: nothing soft about that. But what about a fight like that?

1371
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:53,439
Speaker 1: That would be a tough fight. For sure.

1372
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 4: I would be completely in favor of something like that,

1373
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 4: because honestly, he's operating on such a different level and

1374
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 4: he has so much casual interest. You don't have to

1375
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 4: have him in there against some killer like who's going

1376
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 4: to take us out off and take the rest of

1377
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 4: his mojo from him. What you want to do is

1378
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 4: have him going there and beat somebody, right like you're

1379
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 4: mentioning with the cowboy SERRONI look how much his star

1380
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 4: potential raised again just after coming back and getting that

1381
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 4: one win. It was like, all of a sudden, so

1382
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 4: many of the narratives were reintroduced, all those things came back.

1383
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 4: It seemed like he was the money maker again. He

1384
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 4: was the guy he just beat Cowboy Seroni. You know

1385
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 4: a lot of guys are beating Cowboy Serroni at this

1386
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 4: point of his career.

1387
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: So I think you're right, it wouldn't be bad.

1388
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 4: It would just be smart business as a businessman to

1389
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 4: come back and try to take on somebody you really

1390
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 4: feel confident that you're going to beat. And the UFC

1391
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 4: would be smart to do that because then you can

1392
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 4: get a big fight. I think if you put him

1393
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,439
Speaker 4: in any kind of really big fight right away, it's

1394
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 4: just the kind of precedent and favoritism that has made

1395
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 4: so many people turn against the UFC, right like all

1396
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 4: these guys who can't get shot, so they're in a

1397
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 4: weird position. But I would prefer, honestly that they do that.

1398
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 4: If you're one hundred percent of you nailed it when

1399
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 4: you said if he's coming back, he intends to stay

1400
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 4: and he wants to have multiple fights, a build up

1401
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 4: fight would be the perfect way to go.

1402
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 3: And to be fair, this is the treatment that really

1403
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 3: only he would get and deserve because of his star value.

1404
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 2: We all know that we're all saying that up front.

1405
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 3: How offended would you be if they rolled out Frankie

1406
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 3: Edgar in a retirement fight at lightweight?

1407
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: Wow? I wouldn't be offended at all. Man.

1408
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 4: First of all, I would love it because it almost

1409
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 4: be like this lifetime achievement award for Frankie, right, like,

1410
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 4: hey man, thank you, here's what you get as a

1411
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 4: parting gift. That type of thing. That would be great

1412
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 4: for him lining his pockets a little bit. And honestly,

1413
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 4: that would be an intriguing fight. I'd be down for that.

1414
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: Okay.

1415
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:41,959
Speaker 3: All I do is matchmaker. They don't pay anything.

1416
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: You're a matchmaker.

1417
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 3: Speaking of Cowboy Seroni, he is targeted for an April

1418
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:50,919
Speaker 3: thirtieth return against one Joe los On in Old Guy

1419
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 3: on Old Guy Crime.

1420
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 2: It could be wild, it could be gross. Your thoughts

1421
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 2: on this truck.

1422
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: Well, we haven't seen Joe Lo's on a lot.

1423
01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 4: The one thing I will say is Joe losa On

1424
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 4: likes he's not a crusher, right. He doesn't go in

1425
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 4: there trying to like injure Injure life with one big

1426
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 4: right hand or something like that. So it's a little

1427
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 4: bit of a softer landing between two veterans who can

1428
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 4: mix it up in a lot of different ways. If

1429
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 4: you're going to book Seroni and if you're going to

1430
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 4: book Loson, that's the kind of matchup I'd like to

1431
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 4: see at this point.

1432
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: So I don't have a problem with it.

1433
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 4: I don't have a big appetite for it, like I

1434
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 4: don't need to see it. But I'm fine with them.

1435
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 4: If both those guys want to fight each other and

1436
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 4: they feel like they've not you know, they've not had

1437
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 4: the chance, and this is it, go for it.

1438
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: Man.

1439
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 2: Cowboy is thirty eight.

1440
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 3: He hasn't won since twenty nineteen, but he's so active

1441
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 3: that he's lost five since then, including one no contest

1442
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 3: against Nico Price.

1443
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 1: So and those has been out like since that time too.

1444
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I mean it would take a lot for

1445
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 3: the UFC to cut Cowboy, right, I mean, he's would

1446
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 3: you say he's in that that Matt Hughes, Force Griffin

1447
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 3: and Stefan Bonner we love you for life category?

1448
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: I think so.

1449
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 4: I think Dana really loves him, and I really do

1450
01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 4: believe that. So probably Cowboy set a bar for every

1451
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 4: other fighter to kind of hate him for, which was

1452
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 4: always saying yes because then you have this expectation from

1453
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 4: UFC like, hey, cowboy says, yes, he's used that example

1454
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 4: so many times. But the truth of the matter is

1455
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 4: he is that guy right Like he's like he's always

1456
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 4: willing to step in and fight. And I think that

1457
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 4: the UFC, you know, has big time gratitude for that man.

1458
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 4: He saved him a bunch of times too, like stepping

1459
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 4: in on short notice and things like that.

1460
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think he's going to get that treatment, just.

1461
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 3: Like you scouting ladies on your college freshman dorm room floor.

1462
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 3: The UFC loves people that say yes, Chuck.

1463
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, good comparison.

1464
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, Chuck.

1465
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 2: Where did you go to college that people need to know?

1466
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: I went to a place called Metropolitan State in Denver. Wow,

1467
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: don't look for it. No, you could look for it.

1468
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 1: It's on the Aria campus downtown Denver.

1469
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 3: Okay. I that's great.

1470
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 4: I mean I want to say that people are like,

1471
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 4: isn't that where Spider Man went to school?

1472
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: You know? But where did you go?

1473
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:01,479
Speaker 3: You did a couple of years at Nogg's at Valley

1474
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 3: Community College, Chuck. Then I did. I served time at

1475
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 3: Southern Connecticut State University.

1476
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 4: Okay, served time, all right, Yeah, yeah, it sounds like

1477
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 4: pretty good.

1478
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 3: Chuck Paul Craig the light heavyweight future contender. Possibly he's

1479
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 3: back to facing Nikita Krelov March nineteenth in London. Krylov

1480
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 3: Krelov love whatever, good, good ass fight. Chuck your thoughts.

1481
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 4: I don't mind that that card's actually gonna be fun, man.

1482
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 4: I mean they're they're adding some like that. That's a

1483
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 4: that's a fun banger fight right there.

1484
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: So I'm down with it. I like that. I like

1485
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: that matchup.

1486
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 2: Oh I skipped over one here.

1487
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 3: Chuck Roda Rousey won the Royal Rumble Saturday, just four

1488
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 3: months after giving birth to la Akia Maka Lapua Oh colonnipo.

1489
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: You could pronounce that, all right?

1490
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Chuck, do you fing care at all?

1491
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: Not really? I was interested, obviously. I thought she was

1492
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: going to be on it. I thought she was gonna

1493
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 1: get one of the those late numbers and she you know,

1494
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: we'd hear the whatever Joan Jets song kick on. Sure

1495
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: enough it happened. My son.

1496
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 4: I was watching with my son and he was like, yeah,

1497
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 4: do you know you called it? You know, but I'm like,

1498
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 4: of course, you know this is going to happen. I

1499
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 4: didn't care, but it was interesting to see the pop.

1500
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 1: Man.

1501
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 4: I mean, it seemed like she got a huge pop

1502
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 4: in Saint Louis. I wasn't sure what she did, but

1503
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 4: I felt like she got the biggest pop of the night.

1504
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: Man Like, it was pretty crazy.

1505
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 3: I'm afraid to put some pop in on the on

1506
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 3: the arena speakers as well. They're afraid to do that.

1507
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what it was.

1508
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 2: Had mm flare As.

1509
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 3: Brock Lesner also won the Men's Royal Rumble the same

1510
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 3: night with the thirtieth I didn't watch it. It's been

1511
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 3: called the worst Royal Rumble of all time. It seems

1512
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 3: par for the course in what's driving me away from

1513
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 3: worst genre for good?

1514
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: No, you go in and out like you go in

1515
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: and out of the wrestling world.

1516
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 3: Thing is when I go in, chuck in, go in,

1517
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 3: I'm I am in bro Okay and I and I'm

1518
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 3: out right now and I'm out with a band.

1519
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:56,919
Speaker 2: And it's no disrespect to ae W.

1520
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 3: I love them, but the other the other people, the

1521
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 3: Vince McMahons, they've robbed me of the spirit of this.

1522
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand, I get it well.

1523
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,439
Speaker 3: Speaking of light heavyweights and your time in college. Jan

1524
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 3: Blohovich has pulled out Chuck of his March twenty sixth

1525
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 3: bout against Alexander Rackets due to an undisclosed injury. This

1526
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 3: sounds like a phone call to the one and only

1527
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 3: mister Mussey TV himself, Anthony Smith can fix this problem, Chuck.

1528
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, or they could just postpone the fight, right because

1529
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 4: if you're trying to I don't know the injury.

1530
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 1: Do you know what the injury was?

1531
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 3: It was undisclosed?

1532
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: Okay?

1533
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 4: If if he's able to roll obviously, Like I'm guessing

1534
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 4: this fight has title implications just where they're at in

1535
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 4: the rankings, Like, so if you wanted to kind of

1536
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 4: match it up, because they do this timing wise.

1537
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: Anyway to May or June. You've got the Glover to

1538
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 1: SHAREFF title defense happening in May, so.

1539
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 4: They could do that. But yes, if it's one of

1540
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 4: those injuries that's going to keep him out whatever his

1541
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 4: name is, yoan Like, if he's going to be out

1542
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 4: like an extended period of time, Anthony Smith one hundred percent,

1543
01:06:59,360 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 4: he should jump in.

1544
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 3: I'm going to make sense. In the rankings, Yan Blohovic

1545
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 3: is number one, Perhatsko's number two, but he's got the

1546
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 3: title fight rackets three, and then you got Anthony Smith

1547
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 3: at number four, and you know, all jokes aside. Anthony

1548
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 3: Smith is on a very good run right now and

1549
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 3: he's looking he's looking to be back. He's actually the

1550
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 3: nicest guy. He's really a he's a really good broadcaster

1551
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 3: and like radio host and podcast host. It's just he

1552
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 3: got caught in the crossfire. Chuck, it happened.

1553
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 1: Yes, I've been gotten that crossfire. I know what that's like, Chuck.

1554
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 3: Do you care about Misha Serkonov against Wellington Urman February

1555
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 3: twenty sixth at UFC, Vegas.

1556
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: Not really?

1557
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 4: But Wellington Turnmin sounds like a guy who travels with

1558
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 4: very expensive luggage.

1559
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 1: Doesn't he like nice handbags? Yes?

1560
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 3: Best handle since samson Ight, Yes, go love it. And finally,

1561
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 3: in our quick hitters, Chuck Chill Sonnen has been cleared, Yeah,

1562
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 3: of all charges related to that Las Vegas battery case

1563
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 3: at the Luxor would you say still undefeated, Chuck?

1564
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 4: I would actually you know what man he was if

1565
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 4: I understood the situation right, he was sticking up for

1566
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 4: his wife or there was somebody being rude to his

1567
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 4: wife or whatever.

1568
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: Wasn't that the gist of this? Hey, come on, leave

1569
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: it in Vegas and it'll see that.

1570
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 3: You'll see that first of all, Chaill, what the hell

1571
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 3: are you doing at the lux Can we upgrade that?

1572
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: Please?

1573
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 2: Because you know, Chuck, I always make the joke.

1574
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 3: There's a line, and when you're a regular Vegas hotel stayer,

1575
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 3: as we are in this business, there's a line that

1576
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 3: everybody draws for themselves. Some people's line is lower. Some

1577
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 3: people are like, no, brow, the Tropican ain't bad. You

1578
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, dude, The Luxury is well below

1579
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 3: that line of exps.

1580
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:39,759
Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's the so in the ranking system,

1581
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 4: Like there's the the Hooter's Hotel, which I think they've

1582
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 4: since renamed.

1583
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 1: I had to stay there a couple of times back

1584
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 1: in the day.

1585
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,640
Speaker 2: Now that's the that's a dollar blackjack.

1586
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 4: That's that's yeah, there was dollar blackjack. Actually that's the

1587
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 4: bottom wrong. But then you had the Luxe or circus

1588
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 4: circus caliber, yes, ex caliber.

1589
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 1: That's the one. Ex caliber really bad.

1590
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,680
Speaker 4: So you wanted to be across the street, you know,

1591
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 4: you want to be MGM Grand or you wanted to

1592
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 4: be one of those.

1593
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 3: Well, here's like here's a tough question. There's a tough

1594
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,599
Speaker 3: question because I've recently put below my line officially both

1595
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 3: the MGM Grand and New York New York. I mean,

1596
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 3: the thing is, I like the New York New York

1597
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 3: restaurant casino scene.

1598
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 2: I like it as a cut through to the arena.

1599
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 3: I like it.

1600
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like.

1601
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 3: I don't like staying there. And the MGM Graham is

1602
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 3: it is an absolute as whole.

1603
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 1: Now, Okay, me and you rode the roller coaster one night.

1604
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 2: I remember that, dude, I almost threw up. I'd like

1605
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 2: the the the we had a three D face mask

1606
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 2: on and stuff.

1607
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: God, I was nauseating. I remember that.

1608
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 3: Yes, there was two old guys trying to, you know,

1609
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 3: remain relevant, just like the show today. All right, Chuck,

1610
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 3: that'll do it for our five topics. Let's get into

1611
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 3: segment number two, where we give you, the viewer, a

1612
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 3: chance to ask us the tough questions. Every Sunday night

1613
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 3: on Instagram at morning Combat, we put up the post, Chuck.

1614
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,759
Speaker 3: The picture was of you and I in like merch

1615
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:56,759
Speaker 3: with like our arms around each other on the couch.

1616
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 3: It was a little awkward, right, Yeah, it was awkward.

1617
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 1: But I mean it was good. It was we had

1618
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 1: a movie on. It was just all right.

1619
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 3: This one's called d MS from Dogs. Hehaw, he haw.

1620
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 3: All right, we start with at Aurelius ninety two. Chuck,

1621
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 3: let's go to you on this because you're benefiting from this.

1622
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 3: I think you are. I don't know, this is a

1623
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 3: chore for you. Now, why is Luke on vacation every

1624
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:28,679
Speaker 3: other month?

1625
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 4: Because that cat is in a different tax bracket than us. Man,

1626
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 4: I mean he's able to do whatever he wants. I think,

1627
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 4: I honestly don't know.

1628
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 1: Is he on vacation a lot? Like I feel like, here's.

1629
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 3: The deal with him? And this is a philosophical debate

1630
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 3: that we all have when it comes to our jobs

1631
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 3: and vacation time in our family. I personally think.

1632
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 2: That when you get to this level.

1633
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 3: You're allowed to take three week vacations a year.

1634
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 2: I mean, you get, you get the time it's paid for.

1635
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 3: You gotta on well to be this good, Chuck, to

1636
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 3: do stuff like this every day or MK all day

1637
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 3: nearly every day, you gotta be like refreshed and what.

1638
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 3: But my problem is I cap that like when my

1639
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 3: wife's like, hey, we should go away in a couple

1640
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 3: of months. I try to cap it at a week max.

1641
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 1: Right.

1642
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 2: I thought Luke was going to be.

1643
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 3: Back today, and then I find out, No, he's not

1644
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 3: gonna be back till Friday. Brah. We're doing We're still

1645
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 3: doing two weeks vacations twenty twenty two, so you know.

1646
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 3: And by the way, my wife's on that same side

1647
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 3: of the street as he. She's always saying, you know,

1648
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 3: can we can we go away for a week and

1649
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 3: a half, two weeks, three weeks?

1650
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 1: Chuck, I can't do this. I've never done that.

1651
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 4: I've never done that, not since I've been full you know,

1652
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 4: basically full time in Mma. I don't think I've ever

1653
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 4: taken a two week vacation I'm aware of.

1654
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 1: I don't remember doing that.

1655
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 3: But you can't.

1656
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:48,719
Speaker 1: You usually can't. There's too much going on at all times.

1657
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 3: If Luke is watching right now on the beaches of Columbia.

1658
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 3: Then I saw the pictures he texted us. It was beautiful.

1659
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 3: I wish him well as a lovely family if this

1660
01:11:56,479 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 3: is what he needs to get, right, Chuck, Okay, because

1661
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 3: he's an ornery, blowhard, that guy.

1662
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:06,640
Speaker 4: All right, Yeah, I know I know he is, but

1663
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 4: you know, so I guess we can. We can mention

1664
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 4: he's in Colombia. I thought that this was top secret.

1665
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 3: Well he told us we can't. But then he's putting

1666
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:17,520
Speaker 3: it all over all over his ig story all right, okaya.

1667
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 2: And women all over him and stuff.

1668
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 3: I mean, what does his family have truck that we

1669
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 3: don't that he has to choose them over us?

1670
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 4: Right?

1671
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 3: I mean I don't know.

1672
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 2: I didn't even looked that close.

1673
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 3: All right, drug, this one's from Brad Dougie Stevens, just

1674
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 3: like Bisping and son and who will be the next

1675
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 3: current fighter to retire and become successful in the YouTube

1676
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 3: podcast world? Can I also add one Brendan shab to

1677
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 3: that list? Yeah, because he's also successful and thick with

1678
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 3: like a yes season a row? Okay, is he still so?

1679
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 1: Is he still is?

1680
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 4: Bendan's still kind of a because I think for a minute, man,

1681
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 4: he was kind of like the top of the charts

1682
01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:58,560
Speaker 4: with the whole Rogan.

1683
01:12:58,760 --> 01:12:59,799
Speaker 2: Oh you'd be surprised.

1684
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely he was up there. So let's go

1685
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:06,719
Speaker 3: full disclosure here. You followed him on a comedy tour, correct.

1686
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 1: I didn't follow him.

1687
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:11,679
Speaker 4: I went out and met him at Zani's in Nashville

1688
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,679
Speaker 4: for a piece. So I saw him do three sets

1689
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 4: there and met some other comedians and stuff.

1690
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 1: That was fun. Though.

1691
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 4: It was pretty cool, and I got reamed, I mean

1692
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 4: reamed for writing it positive. I guess it wasn't a

1693
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 4: glowing thing, but I was. I was being positive and

1694
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 4: I framed the article poorly. I had to turn it

1695
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 4: around so fast I didn't have time to really do

1696
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 4: it the correct way. So I got reamed for like

1697
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:35,719
Speaker 4: actually giving him kudos and saying he was funny.

1698
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 2: Man, tell the truth, Chuck, if he's funny.

1699
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 1: I was telling the truth, and the crowd loved him. Man,

1700
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 1: it was three cellouts. The crowd was going crazy.

1701
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:44,680
Speaker 2: I tried to spar with him on the air. He

1702
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 2: wouldn't take the bait.

1703
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 4: All right, really, dude, the one of the performances, the

1704
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 4: Tennessee Titans were there, They're all like laughing, hooting it up.

1705
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 1: I mean that dude, he's got it going. People don't

1706
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 1: want to accept it, but he's got it going.

1707
01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 3: Tough ending for Steve McNair though, just the same.

1708
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was a tough saying, you know.

1709
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's enough time removed where we

1710
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 2: can talk about it.

1711
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 1: We can talk about that now.

1712
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hell because Emmy what was her name?

1713
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 3: Yeah? Wow?

1714
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 2: Okay, Chuck, who do you think fits that trifecta of success?

1715
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 3: That only Brendan schob chill Son and and one uh

1716
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 3: who's the other guy?

1717
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 2: Gosh man uh bisping.

1718
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 3: Look, obviously there are certain personalities that are going to

1719
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:26,959
Speaker 3: work in this type of independent YouTube you know, variety

1720
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 3: show that we do here. Who do you think of

1721
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:34,480
Speaker 3: today's fighters has this potential? May's already doing it, bron.

1722
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 4: I mean, that's the thing, right, It's got to be

1723
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 4: somebody with a command. It's gotta be somebody with that

1724
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 4: kind of command, because a lot of the people they

1725
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 4: use for the ESPN or ESPN and UFC broadcast and stuff,

1726
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 4: they're smart, they're analytical, but they're they're boring. I don't

1727
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 4: know if they would be able to carry that type

1728
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 4: of show. You've got to have like an entertainment thing

1729
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 4: to you, right, Like you got to.

1730
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 1: Have something more that's tough. Nobody pops to mind.

1731
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 3: Well, you got to take to give hot that could upset.

1732
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 3: It's in some ways it's similar to like when you're

1733
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 3: an announcer, you got to give you know, if you're

1734
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 3: a color commentator for UFC, you got to give sometimes

1735
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 3: harsh takes about active fighters, but this is a little different.

1736
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 3: You've also got to be able to carry it personality wise.

1737
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 3: It's not jumping out at me. Who who is Who's

1738
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 3: got that vibe? I mean maybe Sean Strickler, but it

1739
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 3: could be a dark.

1740
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 1: One, you know, Oh my god, can you imagine?

1741
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 3: But see I can't.

1742
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,720
Speaker 4: I would be intrigued by his first couple, right like,

1743
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 4: I'd want to know what he's going going to say,

1744
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 4: because that's that guy goes down some dark paths man.

1745
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 4: And the more you peel back about his past, the

1746
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:37,639
Speaker 4: more it's like, oh my god, what.

1747
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,600
Speaker 1: Nobody did a you know, credit check on this?

1748
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:45,720
Speaker 3: Funny in boxing? In boxing, we don't really have this,

1749
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 3: you know, like like Tim Bradley andre Ward are great

1750
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,680
Speaker 3: transitional broadcasters. I really like what Sean Porter's doing. But

1751
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 3: you don't get a lot of fighters who are capable

1752
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 3: of pulling this off and being good on the mic,

1753
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 3: whether it's in a professional setting or in a you know,

1754
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 3: podcast setting. MMA.

1755
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 2: Maybe it's maybe the maybe the I don't know.

1756
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: What it is.

1757
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 4: That's why he changed the game, man. Yeah, maybe that

1758
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 4: is it. I mean, I think he changed the game,

1759
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 4: like because it was it was you know, his ability

1760
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 4: to just show up and command a room at press

1761
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 4: conferences and to command every time somebody put a.

1762
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 1: Micro in space, he knew what to say. I mean,

1763
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 1: I think he changed the game.

1764
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 4: So if he set the bar, maybe some of the

1765
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 4: guys are like, Hey, for me to actually do something

1766
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 4: like that, I need to be more willing, you know,

1767
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 4: to give those opinions stuff. I feel like he kind

1768
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 4: of changed it a little bit. So I got to

1769
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 4: give him all the credit for this.

1770
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 2: What about Adasanya? What about Derek Lewis?

1771
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 4: Derek Lewis, maybe although he's so shy really you know,

1772
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 4: I feel like he's not he's a little bit introverted

1773
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 4: that way, Like is he would be okay? I think

1774
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:53,600
Speaker 4: he would have no problem giving a But you know

1775
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 4: what's funny, man, does he have that entertainment it thing?

1776
01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 4: I know, I feel like he has it as a

1777
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 4: whole package, you know what I mean, Like, yeah, some.

1778
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 3: People have it to just sell themselves in the moment,

1779
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 3: but they might not have it too week to week

1780
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 3: talk about the product and be a man. Yeah, it

1781
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 3: is pretty interesting here I'd listen to a Dom Cruse podcast.

1782
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 3: I know that would be different. It wouldn't be as

1783
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 3: you know, that would be cool, but it'd be it'd

1784
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 3: be it'd.

1785
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 4: Be interesting now that he's eaten so many mushrooms and

1786
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 4: stuff like, and he's kind of like, you know, has

1787
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 4: he well for his stories?

1788
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1789
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 4: I don't know if he's really maybe I'm being bed

1790
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:32,639
Speaker 4: false information, but we have Yeah, he's got some Uh,

1791
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 4: he's got deep takes.

1792
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 1: Man.

1793
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,759
Speaker 4: Have you heard him recently? Like he's it's all enlightenment

1794
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 4: and love and I mean he's like.

1795
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 2: You talking about Dom Cruise, the guy there's late.

1796
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 4: Beatles moment like he's kind of becoming more. He's expanding,

1797
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So i'd be interested in that. Okay, Yeah,

1798
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 4: it's a.

1799
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 3: Very interesting take.

1800
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 1: All right.

1801
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 3: This one's from Sergeant Molina BC. Who would you rather

1802
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 3: be locked in a room with for twenty four hours?

1803
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:57,640
Speaker 3: Sean Strickland or Mike.

1804
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:58,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god?

1805
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 2: Oh wow?

1806
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 1: This is it's a long time man.

1807
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 3: A loaded question here, But are they basically saying who

1808
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 3: are you less likely to get?

1809
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 2: Ben wad By? Is that where we're going with this?

1810
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:12,560
Speaker 3: Or I think I would have a way to navigate

1811
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 3: the craziness of Mike Perry easier. Yeah, I don't know, Chuck.

1812
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 3: I've always like I kind of like a little crazy

1813
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 3: I kind of like, you know what I mean, I

1814
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 3: kind of I kind of yeah, I like a little

1815
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 3: like little raw energy out of somebody, you know what

1816
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 3: I mean. I've I've been like that growing up. I

1817
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 3: could I could chameleon my way around like the high

1818
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,640
Speaker 3: school hallways and talk to the to the to the

1819
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 3: stoners wearing the drug rugs, talk to the metal heads,

1820
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 3: talk to the wanna be gang members, talk to this

1821
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 3: talk you know what I mean, and just kind of

1822
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:40,640
Speaker 3: like get in.

1823
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:43,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're worry with Mike Perry might be that he

1824
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 4: just you tell so many stories that at some point

1825
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:47,679
Speaker 4: you're like, I mean, I feel like he'd be funny

1826
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 4: for the most part. He'd sit in there and kind

1827
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 4: of tell you stories and say crazy shit. But the

1828
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 4: strong Sean Strickland, I mean, at some point he may

1829
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:57,719
Speaker 4: just try to shive you, you know what I mean.

1830
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 3: Well, or he may just like you we pick up

1831
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 3: a hitcher and he just starts like, you know, dismembering

1832
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:07,520
Speaker 3: him in the back. I mean, it's everything, It's possible, Okay,

1833
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:09,759
Speaker 3: I mean this would be a great documentary, right, speaking

1834
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:13,560
Speaker 3: of MK dogs, right, Okay, this one's from at Holmes

1835
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 3: dot Joel. How high is the ceiling on Tim Zoo

1836
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 3: and where does BC rate him against the Charlos and

1837
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 3: Kastanios of the division? Chuck, if you don't know this,

1838
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 3: Tim Zou is the son of Boxing Hall of Famer

1839
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 3: Coast Jazoo.

1840
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 2: He is an unbeaten junior.

1841
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 3: Middleweight out of Australia and he's right at that point

1842
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 3: shock where he has just beat the big name former

1843
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 3: guys champions from Australia that he could beat, like the

1844
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,680
Speaker 3: Jeff Horns, those type of guys, and he's ready to

1845
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 3: like go on the global scene and come to America.

1846
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 3: I think I rate him pretty high, Like, do I

1847
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 3: know he could be in contend with the Charlo or

1848
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:48,720
Speaker 3: Kastania at one fifty four?

1849
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 2: I think he contends against them.

1850
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 3: Does he beat them?

1851
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:52,599
Speaker 2: We'll have to see. But what I've seen so far

1852
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 2: from Tim.

1853
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 3: Zoo is great poise, very precision punching. Seems to just

1854
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 3: have that thing of being a son of a legend

1855
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 3: in any sport that they have this sort of like

1856
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 3: natural comfortability with the moment and the expectations and the

1857
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 3: I mean it's like, you know, Chuck like shout out

1858
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 3: to our dads. But if we could have grown up

1859
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 3: in the shadow of dad's doing something just dynamic, it

1860
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 3: would have just osmosis, you know, just fallen on us, right,

1861
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Yes, yeah, I think he's

1862
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 3: going to be special. I think he's going to win

1863
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 3: a world title. Could it beat a Jermale Charlotte? I

1864
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 3: don't know, but I got to see it. Have you

1865
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 3: seen anything from this kid yet?

1866
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 1: Not yet, man, But now you've got me psyched to

1867
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 1: check them out.

1868
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 4: You know, you mentioned these guys and it's something you

1869
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 4: know that I would like to see more of, Like

1870
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 4: just get into boxing.

1871
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 1: I feel like it should happen. But do you really

1872
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 1: think that at.

1873
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:44,639
Speaker 4: This point or is this just your enthusiasm that boxing

1874
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:47,679
Speaker 4: is at a spot that it hasn't been in our lifetime.

1875
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 4: I feel like at this moment, like you're mentioning these

1876
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 4: guys like that who are coming up, and there's so

1877
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 4: many good names you get these heavyweight guys. Now you're

1878
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 4: seeing these figures come out where the price is I

1879
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 4: mean the price the purse price is ridiculous, like right,

1880
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 4: and I feel like people are excited to see these

1881
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 4: guys pury, the cross pollination with some of the MMA guys,

1882
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 4: just all of it. Do you feel like it's in

1883
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 4: a great spot. I feel like boxing is better now

1884
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 4: than in the summer bit.

1885
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, here's the thing, So boxing kind

1886
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 3: of right around four Lennox Lewis retired, the heavyweight division

1887
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 3: kind of went to shit. You still had Floyd and

1888
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 3: Manny and what was left of Oscar de la Hoya

1889
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,680
Speaker 3: carrying it big brand. So at the elite level you

1890
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 3: still got big fights and big storylines. It was great.

1891
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 3: At the hardcore level, you still got all the great

1892
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 3: stuff you would need. I feel like the middle class

1893
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 3: got eliminated and boxing went through a really tough time

1894
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:37,759
Speaker 3: in the last fifteen to twenty years. But it's had

1895
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 3: some every other year kind of boons, where like one

1896
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,719
Speaker 3: year'd be just loaded with great fights, or the next year,

1897
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,679
Speaker 3: you know, PBC got launched and suddenly boxing's on national

1898
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 3: TV again.

1899
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 2: It's like we've had some ups and downs.

1900
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 3: We're coming off a twenty twenty one that was great

1901
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:53,719
Speaker 3: and anytime I told the MMA fans on the show.

1902
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 3: I know you hate boxing, but you gotta watch this

1903
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 3: fight on Saturday. It's paid off, the fight's delivered. The

1904
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,720
Speaker 3: best are or less fighting the best. Canelo is a

1905
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 3: guy you can watch and like Floyd before him, and

1906
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 3: get behind the storyline. The heavyweight division is must see.

1907
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 3: Are we in a spot where boxing's biggest kryptonite elements

1908
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 3: are gone and we can all move forward happily? No,

1909
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 3: it's always going to be their truck because the sport's

1910
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 3: disorganized and it's sure dirty as shit.

1911
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of bad going on.

1912
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 3: But yes, I believe right now, even if I don't

1913
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 3: think everything is going to the level that it could be,

1914
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 3: it's in a good spot.

1915
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:32,679
Speaker 1: Social media probably.

1916
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 4: I feel like the UFC when it came in, you know, MMA,

1917
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 4: but especially UFC new how to handle social media. Somewhere,

1918
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:41,720
Speaker 4: even if it's never been acknowledged. Boxing has learned to

1919
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 4: use social media better because the names, at least for

1920
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 4: the longest time, it was everybody was. If you didn't

1921
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 4: pay attention, there would work contenders. You didn't know who

1922
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 4: these guys were, like the guys coming up. So I

1923
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 4: feel like these days you kind of know the divisions

1924
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 4: a little bit and you kind of know, you know

1925
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 4: who's coming up and all that stuff. It's just a

1926
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 4: little different. I feel like people are a little more

1927
01:22:59,280 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 4: tuned into it.

1928
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 3: I mean, there's still too many pay per views. So

1929
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 3: if you were like, hey, I kind of like this,

1930
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 3: should I go hardcore?

1931
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 2: They don't make it easy.

1932
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,520
Speaker 3: There's still too many fake titles. There's still too many

1933
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 3: of all these things that'll piss you off. But as

1934
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 3: long as the fights that are supposed to be good,

1935
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 3: Chuck deliver that, that's a band aid that can keep

1936
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 3: you going for a while and you can still appreciate

1937
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 3: the grade of the sport without getting caught up in

1938
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 3: some of the bs.

1939
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,799
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, I just like your boxing insight.

1940
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 3: Yes, I just like that We're that as a show here, MK.

1941
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 3: We're opening people up to the idea of what they

1942
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 3: need to be missing.

1943
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:34,600
Speaker 4: Hey man, you started this show, you said you're going

1944
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 4: to talk about boxing too, and I was like, I

1945
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 4: don't know, man, because MMA fans just can't stand to

1946
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 4: think that way. But you guys have pulled this off,

1947
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 4: and I feel like this show particularly has drawn interest

1948
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 4: from that MMA side into the boxing moment.

1949
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 1: That's an achievement.

1950
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 3: I'll take that for now.

1951
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 1: Got what happens? Finally, if you're to sit on the

1952
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:55,839
Speaker 1: couch again later and hang out watch.

1953
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 3: Them, I'd love to.

1954
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1955
01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 3: I put that tight shirt back on so you can

1956
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 3: show my robustbelly. This one's from at Ian was here

1957
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 3: six six six. Does this mean that he has uh

1958
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 3: that he dabbles in the dark magico my lord? He says,

1959
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 3: does watching fights ever feel like a chore? I'm just

1960
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:14,600
Speaker 3: a fan and keeping up with all the M and

1961
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 3: A promotions as well as boxing and glory kickboxing sometimes

1962
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 3: becomes a grind. Does the media ever feel like that?

1963
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:21,639
Speaker 2: Sometimes?

1964
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 3: Day one?

1965
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 2: Donk here, Chuck. Does this job ever feel like a

1966
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 2: job to you?

1967
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 1: Yes? It does, Brian, Yes it does. Does it to you?

1968
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, when you when you don't have an

1969
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 4: off season, uh and and you have multiple promotions and

1970
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:38,639
Speaker 4: they're all building themselves, and there's always a news cycle

1971
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:40,799
Speaker 4: that is just on top of that, I mean it

1972
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 4: it can get to you. And we were talking a

1973
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 4: little bit last time last Monday.

1974
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:44,759
Speaker 1: Uh.

1975
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 4: You know, when you're covering the sport in its minutia,

1976
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 4: like where you're literally you know, paying attention to social

1977
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 4: media feeds and people's feuds, all the useful idiots in

1978
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 4: the sport, all the things that people are feeding information

1979
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 4: this and this, and the managers and all that stuff. Man,

1980
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 4: it gets it becomes a It becomes a big time grind.

1981
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 4: So I think that you have to at some point

1982
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,520
Speaker 4: kind of protect or compartmentalize.

1983
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 1: And treat the fights they kept up.

1984
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:12,839
Speaker 4: You have to kind of hold them in a special

1985
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 4: place to really keep that enthusiasm going.

1986
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,640
Speaker 1: Because there for a while, man, if it was a

1987
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:18,639
Speaker 1: you know.

1988
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 4: Thirteen fight UFC card, you'd be like, oh my god.

1989
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:24,600
Speaker 4: You know, especially if you're at the event, you had

1990
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:25,719
Speaker 4: to sit through all of that.

1991
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:27,799
Speaker 1: It became a grind.

1992
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 4: So I feel like I've had to kind of take

1993
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 4: a step back for a minute and then rewatch it.

1994
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 4: I try to gain some of the enthusiasm, regain some

1995
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 4: of the enthusiasm I had, and protect those fights, like

1996
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 4: protect them from all that stuff, don't try to get

1997
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 4: jaded by them, and watch them for what they are.

1998
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:44,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, it becomes a grind for me.

1999
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:47,599
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely. And you know, covering both sports the highest

2000
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 3: level could be a grind. When I used to cover

2001
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:50,559
Speaker 3: for wrestling on top of this, it.

2002
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 1: Became I don't know how you do that.

2003
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:54,639
Speaker 3: Well, you had to make a decision that there's only

2004
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 3: so deep you can go, you know what I mean.

2005
01:25:56,600 --> 01:26:01,600
Speaker 3: And sometimes you know it's it sucks, but we know

2006
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 3: what I do to fight it. I try to watch

2007
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 3: as many fights live as I possibly can, so even

2008
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 3: if you're off, you know, and sometimes you're like, Okay,

2009
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 3: I should unplug and go with the family. I do,

2010
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 3: but I'm like, I could, you know, because rewatching stuff

2011
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 3: you're not in the mood to rewatch, can't retain it.

2012
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 1: It's also weird.

2013
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 4: There's something about the live kind of I don't know,

2014
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:22,639
Speaker 4: you know, it's going to sound kind of dominant cruise ish,

2015
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 4: but it's like the psychic energy of it, because it's

2016
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 4: like you're kind of everything's being contextualized in the moment,

2017
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:31,640
Speaker 4: right Like you can kind of understand the gravity of

2018
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 4: this fighter or that fighter, or what they have or

2019
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:37,520
Speaker 4: their factions or whatever is going on by the moment.

2020
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

2021
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 4: But when you when you go back and nobody else

2022
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 4: is watching it's just you, it can feel a little, uh,

2023
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 4: I don't know, it just feels like you're taking notes

2024
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:45,799
Speaker 4: or something.

2025
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels very lonely.

2026
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, lonely, that's the word.

2027
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 3: Well, some people are alone this winter, and luckily we

2028
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 3: have created this companion segment that just lights them on

2029
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 3: fire with Troy and laughter and gil.

2030
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:00,640
Speaker 1: Uh.

2031
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 3: We scar with the Globe Chuck every Monday for Segment three,

2032
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 3: Searching the highs and lows, the good, the bad, the ugly,

2033
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 3: the in between and combat sports and beyond we like

2034
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 3: to call it. Have you seen this shit? Oh god, damn, yeah, yep,

2035
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 3: there we go, There we go, Thank you, thank you, Liz.

2036
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 3: All right, sorry, they're texting me. They're texting me. Okay,

2037
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 3: here we go, uh, Chuck, not litting, Chuck. We start

2038
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 3: off with Belatoor two seven to three from Phoenix, Chuck.

2039
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 3: Did you see lightweight Chris Gonzalez needing just thirty six

2040
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 3: seconds to detonate one sada? Odd?

2041
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 1: No, I did not see this live, but man, that's beautiful.

2042
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's high kick heaven right there.

2043
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 3: Okay, look at that? Yeah, well done there? All right, okay,

2044
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:57,879
Speaker 3: carrying it on. H Darren Caldwell, your former bantamweight champion,

2045
01:27:58,240 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 3: look great for two rounds. But I don't know if

2046
01:27:59,920 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 3: you heard Big John McCarthy was like, he's gonna gas,

2047
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 3: He's gonna gas.

2048
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:04,639
Speaker 2: Boy did he gas?

2049
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 3: In round three against Enrique Barzola, I received a text

2050
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 3: from one Luke Thomas saying, it's called well the.

2051
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 2: The Kevin Lee of Bellator. This was a bad loss,

2052
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 2: Chuck Man.

2053
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 1: That's actually a really good comparison because with.

2054
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 4: Kevin Lee and with Caldwell, I think that when they started,

2055
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 4: you saw the flashes of how good they are, and

2056
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:26,600
Speaker 4: you had a bar set that was up here that

2057
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 4: they never got close to. Even given the fact that

2058
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 4: he went about He's just never he never seemed to

2059
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 4: get above the bar where people are setting for him.

2060
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:35,759
Speaker 1: But yeah, this was a bad one.

2061
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just saw it coming a mile away.

2062
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 3: And then he essentially just kind of gave up there

2063
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,639
Speaker 3: and and had nothing left. Tough, tough tourn of events

2064
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 3: there because he was wrestling like a maniac in the

2065
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 3: first two rounds. I put a asterisk next to this

2066
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:51,599
Speaker 3: guy's name, or a circle or a gold star. Twenty

2067
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 3: two year old featherweight Lucas Brennan had yet another spectacular

2068
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 3: submission on the Belcher undercards. Look at this sixth sub

2069
01:28:58,640 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 3: of Ben Lugo.

2070
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:02,559
Speaker 1: What do you call us Chuck, don't ask me.

2071
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:06,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, choke, yeah, I mean look at he's got the

2072
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:10,000
Speaker 3: leg pinn in it backwards. I mean that it's beautiful.

2073
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 3: He's got Chase Hooper vibes.

2074
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 1: Right yeah, just how me too?

2075
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:19,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, look at it right now.

2076
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 2: We would have Luke breakdown the technique and then mentioned something.

2077
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 4: This is this is where you don't get you know,

2078
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 4: getting a poor translation over here.

2079
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 2: Look like a choke to me, Chuck, all right, here

2080
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 2: we go vandam waight.

2081
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 3: Blaine shut asked for it, Chuck in the center of

2082
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:37,600
Speaker 3: k of the cage like it was holloway Lamas in

2083
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:40,839
Speaker 3: round five, and he received it from Team Vators.

2084
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 1: That's good.

2085
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 2: Nikita Mikhailov gave it to him.

2086
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:50,760
Speaker 3: Chuck. Oh yeah, yeah, right here, right here, right now,

2087
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:51,639
Speaker 3: that level.

2088
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 1: When these things backfire.

2089
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:54,680
Speaker 2: So this is where I wanted. I wanted to end

2090
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:57,559
Speaker 2: right here, right on the monster logo.

2091
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:04,480
Speaker 3: There we go. Who speaking of Blaine the shutdown shut

2092
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:06,600
Speaker 3: Chuck your thoughts on his tattoo design o.

2093
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:09,720
Speaker 4: Man, another one of these y Cage's lynks. I don't

2094
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:11,560
Speaker 4: understand these guys. It's like they want to become a

2095
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 4: grid or something like. I don't get it. There was

2096
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:15,960
Speaker 4: a guy in the UFC who had the same thing.

2097
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:17,639
Speaker 4: I forget his name now, but.

2098
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 3: I don't know it's machine has that same thing. But

2099
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 3: he's does he on the other side of it. He's

2100
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 3: just stuck behind it?

2101
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:25,599
Speaker 1: Is there now? Bars? You know?

2102
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 3: Sorry? The bars?

2103
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:26,800
Speaker 1: Sorry?

2104
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 2: Sorry, screwed that joke up, all right, Chuck.

2105
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 3: I don't know how she does it, but our good

2106
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 3: friend Vanessa Demopolis just can't stop showing up in this segment.

2107
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 2: Your thoughts to her at home training routine.

2108
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:39,639
Speaker 1: Here, my lord, let's take a look.

2109
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:41,519
Speaker 3: We're at the gym training mm hmm.

2110
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 1: Good techniques, Yes, this is yeah.

2111
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:48,360
Speaker 4: See the heavy bag is a little different than because

2112
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:49,479
Speaker 4: it's it moves, you.

2113
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 3: Know, it's little different than poll.

2114
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:55,080
Speaker 1: It's different than the pole but too DAPs. Well, I

2115
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:55,639
Speaker 1: will say.

2116
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 2: That very adaptable.

2117
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll give you that, all right. Top break boxing

2118
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:04,240
Speaker 3: was in Oklaho. I'm keep an eye on Bruce Shoeshoe Carrington.

2119
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:07,639
Speaker 3: Look at the brutality on this finish in the corner.

2120
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 1: Oh man, oh, oh boys, man, you see him.

2121
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 4: He waited, he waited and tuck that undercut or that Yeah,

2122
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 4: look at that.

2123
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:19,639
Speaker 3: He was a big time amateur trained by former US

2124
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 3: amateur coach k Coroma. This guy Shoeshoe Carrington looks to

2125
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 3: be legit, But Chuck, this looked like Ray Mercer against

2126
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 3: Tommy Morrison.

2127
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 2: Just referee just leaving this guy hung out to try.

2128
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:33,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, what is up with that? What

2129
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 1: is up with that? Yeah?

2130
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:35,839
Speaker 2: Guy's from Oklahoma.

2131
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 3: It takes it easy, you know whatever? All right on

2132
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:41,200
Speaker 3: the same cart, Hey, Chuck Moham about Ali's grants on

2133
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 3: Nico Ali Walsh has become a I don't know, a

2134
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 3: Jake Paul of sorts for ESPN and Top Rank. I've

2135
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 3: talked about his lack of head movement and the fact

2136
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:52,559
Speaker 3: that he's gonna get splattered. I'll give him credit at

2137
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 3: least offensively, he looked great. This is his first fight

2138
01:31:56,479 --> 01:32:01,679
Speaker 3: under new trainer Richard Sloan, who replaced sugar Hill sugar

2139
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 3: Hill Stewart, who I think he was a little bit

2140
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:07,640
Speaker 3: too busy, and Nico Ali Walsh needed direct coaching. But

2141
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:11,040
Speaker 3: Richard Sloan, who was in Smoking Joe Fraser's corner back

2142
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:12,920
Speaker 3: in the day and is in is a very famous

2143
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:13,799
Speaker 3: boxing artist.

2144
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 2: I like the improvement Offensively.

2145
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:18,559
Speaker 3: I still think he's got many defensive holes, but what

2146
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:20,599
Speaker 3: do you think about the Ali shuffle here before the finish?

2147
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:21,840
Speaker 1: Pretty pretty nice.

2148
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 4: I don't know how sustainable that sort of thing is,

2149
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 4: but you know, you got to move your face, Brian,

2150
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 4: You got to move your face.

2151
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 3: They gotta be careful how they market him, like they

2152
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:37,639
Speaker 3: were a little bit too aggressive of the first few fights.

2153
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:38,920
Speaker 2: But he is fighting like every month.

2154
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:42,040
Speaker 3: If you can get if you can keep getting better

2155
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 3: at this rate, maybe there's something there. But we gotta

2156
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 3: wait and see. All right, Yeah, man, things got Harry

2157
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 3: at the Friday wig in for top rank between Pink

2158
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:53,280
Speaker 3: Tyson and Carla Torres.

2159
01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 2: Pink Tyson on the left. I don't believe that's your government.

2160
01:32:56,479 --> 01:33:02,679
Speaker 3: Name though, Ark getting in the middle of that. Dave

2161
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 3: Shaller needs to take some notes on how to break

2162
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 3: that ship up. All right, The action would continue in

2163
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 3: the ring. They had a nice little slugfest, Chuck. I'm

2164
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:11,120
Speaker 3: sure you watched this on Saturday.

2165
01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:12,919
Speaker 1: I did not. Let's see, Pink.

2166
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:14,720
Speaker 2: Tyson would get the l but she was putting it.

2167
01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:16,800
Speaker 1: On her which was pink Pink Tyson here.

2168
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Hey, enough fights in the ring. We

2169
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 3: love subway fights on this show, Chuck. How about this?

2170
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:29,680
Speaker 1: You find these how about.

2171
01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 3: This unexpected valor in this subway fight right here?

2172
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 2: Oh no, oh no, oh no no.

2173
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:40,479
Speaker 3: He's like, hey, hey, hey, we don't need a felony here.

2174
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:43,400
Speaker 2: We don't need it. Yeah, we don't need Look at this, chuck.

2175
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:45,760
Speaker 3: If they can change, we can change.

2176
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:48,320
Speaker 1: Right A dude, That's that's wild.

2177
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:51,479
Speaker 4: I've been You've been in New York City a lot, man,

2178
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 4: like you see some crazy things and every time I'm

2179
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 4: like those platforms like that, I'm like, uh, and I've

2180
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:59,599
Speaker 4: seen guys fighting too, so this is this is not new,

2181
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 4: but seems somebody go over like that.

2182
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:05,000
Speaker 3: What do you think was the issue between them?

2183
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 1: God, I sear man.

2184
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 3: Disrespect or like a half of a cookie? What do

2185
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:10,720
Speaker 3: you think it was?

2186
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 1: Maybe the other man?

2187
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 2: All right?

2188
01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 3: Crimson. Mask of the Week goes to Jose Perez of

2189
01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 3: c FFC one oh five.

2190
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 2: I believe that's maybe.

2191
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 3: Poland or Rush and they're on UFC fight.

2192
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:24,840
Speaker 1: Damn.

2193
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 3: I think he got bad Abdullah the butcher got him

2194
01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 3: with the fork in the in the turnbuckle. There.

2195
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:31,720
Speaker 1: Wow, that's what I was gonna say that.

2196
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:34,080
Speaker 4: It reminds me of the old like wrestling magazines back

2197
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:35,360
Speaker 4: in the day and you just see you didn't see

2198
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 4: it live, You just saw a picture in the dude's

2199
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:38,360
Speaker 4: face would be completely covered of blood.

2200
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:40,160
Speaker 2: Can we teach people always like to grow up in

2201
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:40,679
Speaker 2: the eighties?

2202
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:43,639
Speaker 3: How gnarly was it when you're like six years old,

2203
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 3: it's nineteen eighty four and you walk into the corner

2204
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:49,960
Speaker 3: store and the wrestling magazines just filled with ridiculous man,

2205
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:52,040
Speaker 3: just savage blood on everybody.

2206
01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:53,160
Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved it.

2207
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 4: And they would be next to like the finger areas

2208
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 4: and all those like monster magazines.

2209
01:34:57,080 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 1: They were kind of in the same section.

2210
01:34:58,840 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 2: Were you a comic book guy?

2211
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:02,960
Speaker 4: Not really, not too much. I mean I had some

2212
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:04,400
Speaker 4: you went through. I went through a little phase.

2213
01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 3: You know, you were cool. That's what that means.

2214
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:08,880
Speaker 2: Okay, yea eagle left C forty four in Miami. I

2215
01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 2: talked about it. Now you can see it.

2216
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 3: Sergei Karatanov went full mount on Tyrone's spawn and then

2217
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:16,599
Speaker 3: and then chuck, what do you call this a half

2218
01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:19,200
Speaker 3: crucifix here? When he pins the arm down. This was great.

2219
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:23,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean literally, this was just like watching, you

2220
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:26,759
Speaker 4: know something somebody get mauled to the near their locker

2221
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 4: or something.

2222
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 1: You know.

2223
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:29,760
Speaker 4: It was like one of those types of fights. This

2224
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 4: once it went to the ground, this was just almost

2225
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:33,280
Speaker 4: a brutal to watch.

2226
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, unless he throws him in the subway and

2227
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 3: then lifts him back up, this is not going to

2228
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:38,479
Speaker 3: be nice.

2229
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:40,760
Speaker 1: To Fong had no plan plan be here.

2230
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 4: They called him a polar bear beforehand, and that's what

2231
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:43,840
Speaker 4: it looked like.

2232
01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 2: That's what that's for it, You get it, all right?

2233
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 3: Little showmanship here between ray Borg and Cody Gibson in

2234
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 3: the aforementioned fight. Look at this action. Can we blow

2235
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:56,640
Speaker 3: this up? Eagle left, c bringing out the fireworks.

2236
01:35:56,840 --> 01:36:01,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little little little sweaty shoulder.

2237
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 3: You ain't touching me? Yeah, look at that you been

2238
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:04,839
Speaker 3: Cody Gibson.

2239
01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 1: Guy, he's okay, you know, yeah, he paid attention to him.

2240
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:11,840
Speaker 1: He's good, all right, Chuck.

2241
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 3: Who would you rather buy a used car from? In

2242
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:14,719
Speaker 3: this photo?

2243
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 1: Okay?

2244
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:28,800
Speaker 3: The groolden and the and Pete Rose Rose. Yeah. When

2245
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 3: the FN game says Pete, I mean, you know, the

2246
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 3: car loads start if you buy it from Pete. But

2247
01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 3: there's gonna be some stains on the on the on

2248
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:38,960
Speaker 3: the cloth if you buy it from Rock Holder.

2249
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:42,320
Speaker 1: Right, that's a unique pairing right there.

2250
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 3: That's that's great, What the hell.

2251
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:46,800
Speaker 1: They just had an event together or something. What is this?

2252
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:49,640
Speaker 3: I don't know. They find each other, Chuck, you and

2253
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 3: I host in this show, right, all right?

2254
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:52,679
Speaker 2: Polish up in may time.

2255
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:54,679
Speaker 3: You always got to be careful in Europe because any

2256
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:58,000
Speaker 3: stare doown, Chuck can turn into fisticuffs instantly. Let's check

2257
01:36:58,040 --> 01:36:58,400
Speaker 3: this out.

2258
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 2: Oh it's time. I look at the guards, look at these.

2259
01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:09,120
Speaker 3: Ninjas, chocks. Well, it is COVID season. All we need

2260
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:11,920
Speaker 3: is chail saying I need you to stay away from me. Right.

2261
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 4: I love how the guy who got hit oh, Chuck,

2262
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 4: Oh my lord, that guy was holding back.

2263
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:20,679
Speaker 3: Wow.

2264
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 2: Wow, still going on. It's like the Palace.

2265
01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:25,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get stuff like this.

2266
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:27,960
Speaker 3: No, we don't get enough of this. We're on lot

2267
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 3: of TV folks, all right, Gus Johnson. Yeah, we don't

2268
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:31,839
Speaker 3: get this in Strikeforce Nashville anymore.

2269
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 1: Great, that's mesmerizing. That goes right into a stance. I

2270
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 1: love it.

2271
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:40,280
Speaker 3: Let's go over. Apparently we had the best NFL playoffs

2272
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 3: back to back weeks we've ever seen. I didn't see

2273
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:45,000
Speaker 3: any of it. Okay, great guy, I never watched it,

2274
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:47,639
Speaker 3: but check out what happened here at at Luke's favorite

2275
01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:49,360
Speaker 3: stadium is the Eagles fans come down.

2276
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:52,759
Speaker 1: Yeah I did see this, Yes.

2277
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 3: Yes, shout out to that player helping all the players

2278
01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:57,280
Speaker 3: up there, all the fans up.

2279
01:37:57,479 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 1: Jalen hurts, Yeah, Jalen hurts.

2280
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:02,240
Speaker 3: Damn man, Yeah, this was?

2281
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:04,800
Speaker 1: Where was this at in Philly? I don't even know.

2282
01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:06,360
Speaker 3: It looks the colors look like.

2283
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 4: This is uh, this is actually was this in Washington?

2284
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 4: Because I feel like I saw Luke h because he's

2285
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:14,839
Speaker 4: always humiliated right about everything that goes on in Washington,

2286
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:15,639
Speaker 4: the football team.

2287
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 1: So I'm guessing that's where this was.

2288
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:21,280
Speaker 3: Well, you bite the stadium, it'll bite back. Let's go

2289
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:24,759
Speaker 3: to the University of Kansas as the players, uh exit

2290
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:27,799
Speaker 3: the floor here, Chuck, you gotta you gotta protect yourself

2291
01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:31,439
Speaker 3: at all times. That's the Oh god, damn god, oh god?

2292
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:31,880
Speaker 3: Is that that?

2293
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:34,559
Speaker 1: A couple of guys still ran into it as it

2294
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:36,320
Speaker 1: was aft. Look at this boom and then.

2295
01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:39,800
Speaker 3: Fog Allen rolling over in his grave. That's not good

2296
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:43,320
Speaker 3: right there, Hey, Chuck, big week for small people. Let's

2297
01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:46,479
Speaker 3: shout him out. Brock Legendar picking up we man of

2298
01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:50,360
Speaker 3: Jackass fame and throwing him through a table at a restaurant.

2299
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:50,960
Speaker 3: Your thoughts.

2300
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:56,879
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I mean that's those jackass guys there everywhere.

2301
01:38:56,880 --> 01:38:58,240
Speaker 1: Man, they were just.

2302
01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:00,800
Speaker 4: At the They're at the UFCM, the rest or whatever

2303
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:01,880
Speaker 4: it was, Royal rumble.

2304
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 3: Right.

2305
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:02,800
Speaker 1: There are both things.

2306
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 3: They'll shamelessly promote stuff, there's no.

2307
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:06,800
Speaker 1: Question about that, and they'll do this kind of thing.

2308
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 3: But that was the biggest small person slam of the week.

2309
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:11,720
Speaker 3: Let's go to bidget mma, Chuck. I don't know if

2310
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:13,320
Speaker 3: we still call it that. I didn't know this was

2311
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:19,839
Speaker 3: a thing. Actually, oh my, this stills like a composa

2312
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 3: special here. Okay, oh no, oh god, Okay, they're gonna.

2313
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:26,080
Speaker 2: They're gonna cancel this show.

2314
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 3: Let's move on from that. Yeah right, Hey, Chuck Real

2315
01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:34,479
Speaker 3: recognized Reeal this week as Anderson Silva joined boxer Rubson

2316
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:38,800
Speaker 3: Concesio in the gym in Brazil leading up to Concesio's

2317
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:42,560
Speaker 3: victory over Xavier Martinez in Saturday's ESPN main event. I

2318
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 3: take I take tips from this guy. Oh yeah, well

2319
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:48,240
Speaker 3: depending on the actual tip. Yeah, I mean he did

2320
01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 3: try to tip. He did try to send me an

2321
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:53,400
Speaker 3: indecent proposal. That's not that's right.

2322
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 1: I assumed you meant the tips you were thinking.

2323
01:39:56,080 --> 01:40:00,639
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, all right, that's great. Hey, it's time

2324
01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:02,320
Speaker 3: for the Scorpion of the week. Let's go out to

2325
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:06,559
Speaker 3: the slopes here, Tony Dan's look away. If you're watching, Chuck,

2326
01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:09,599
Speaker 3: this is why I don't ski, all right. I mean,

2327
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:11,639
Speaker 3: did JFK Junior have to die for us to keep

2328
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 3: watching this? Look at this boy? Yeah, oh yeah, let's

2329
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:19,719
Speaker 3: watch some child.

2330
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:22,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna go down this road.

2331
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:25,559
Speaker 3: Let's keep it going here, Chuck. You know you got

2332
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 3: the outdoor pool, but in the winter you gotta you

2333
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:29,519
Speaker 3: gotta stay away from it's dangerous. Look at this kid

2334
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 3: Ice skating on his own pool and his slippers. Yeah,

2335
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:35,760
Speaker 3: a spoiler alert, Chuck, It's gonna go bad for him.

2336
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 1: Oh my, so is one of those spiral.

2337
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:46,240
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're the dad and you're filming this,

2338
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:48,320
Speaker 3: are you like, Oh no, Look at there's the dad.

2339
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:49,800
Speaker 3: He's getting involved. Yeah, look at that.

2340
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:52,880
Speaker 1: Oh boy.

2341
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:55,080
Speaker 2: All right, let's keep it going, Chuck.

2342
01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm struggling. You're still struggling as we cut him.

2343
01:40:57,120 --> 01:41:00,599
Speaker 3: Ony UFC two seven had a legendary knockout that didn't

2344
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:03,559
Speaker 3: happen in the cage. Look at look at Don Fry

2345
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:06,320
Speaker 3: mixing it up with a fan. The old cowboy can

2346
01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:12,479
Speaker 3: still throw Chuck this now, all right, he's a legend.

2347
01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:14,280
Speaker 2: You don't want to mess with him. No, probably had

2348
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 2: too much to drink.

2349
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 1: People with people messing with these guys, come on?

2350
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:23,439
Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah right, cross at who?

2351
01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:27,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, damn, dude, I didn't I didn't see that. That's crazy.

2352
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:28,280
Speaker 1: I didn't even notice it.

2353
01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 3: That was the same day Don Fry spoke to media

2354
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:32,519
Speaker 3: members and said he wants to fight in Ghanu.

2355
01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:34,840
Speaker 4: So I was like, all right, that's great, that's great,

2356
01:41:35,160 --> 01:41:36,639
Speaker 4: gonna get a fight in one way or another.

2357
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 3: All right, Hamza Chimayev has switched camps, which now allows

2358
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 3: him Chuck to wrestle with Belato welterweight champion Yaroslav Amasov.

2359
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:46,360
Speaker 3: This is a nice little grappling pairing here.

2360
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:49,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they had other guys there too. It was

2361
01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:52,000
Speaker 1: like a monster team. Man. It was like five of

2362
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:53,640
Speaker 1: the Yeah, I forget who all was there, but it was.

2363
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:55,680
Speaker 1: I saw the photo of them all posing. Yeah, look

2364
01:41:55,680 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 1: at that.

2365
01:41:57,120 --> 01:41:58,920
Speaker 3: I mean, that's how you get better. Okay, you trained

2366
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:00,920
Speaker 3: with the best, all right, for real?

2367
01:42:01,200 --> 01:42:02,120
Speaker 1: That dude is a beast.

2368
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:04,920
Speaker 3: Man. Oh, we know that celebrities are going to hoop

2369
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:06,599
Speaker 3: it up and it'll probably be awkward and it'll.

2370
01:42:06,439 --> 01:42:08,160
Speaker 2: Probably end up on the show. So let's go to

2371
01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 2: fad Or in.

2372
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:12,839
Speaker 3: Phoenix, Chuck Clay this they had to reinforce the backboard

2373
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:14,080
Speaker 3: for the old Russian Bear.

2374
01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:16,439
Speaker 2: Let's rate his form please.

2375
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:20,519
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I think it was in Phoenix that Shaquille

2376
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:23,160
Speaker 4: O'Neil took down a backboard. I remember one time he

2377
01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:25,320
Speaker 4: dunked it and the whole thing came down. That was

2378
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:28,040
Speaker 4: the who That's the closest I've seen to one of

2379
01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:28,639
Speaker 4: them coming down.

2380
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:32,080
Speaker 1: He called Chuck, I don't know. That reminds me of

2381
01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:34,519
Speaker 1: the McGregor at Madison Square Garden. Were you there on that?

2382
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:36,840
Speaker 4: And he shot this awkward shot. This was just like

2383
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:39,960
Speaker 4: heaving it through the basket, which is crazy.

2384
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:42,639
Speaker 1: But these guys, man, I don't know.

2385
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:45,400
Speaker 3: This sounds like a Danny Brenner stage set up here,

2386
01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:47,840
Speaker 3: you know, CJ. Tuttle. They're like, let's put a ball

2387
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:48,719
Speaker 3: in Fador's hands.

2388
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:52,000
Speaker 4: You know, that's like the the that shot was completely

2389
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:52,599
Speaker 4: without grace.

2390
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:55,040
Speaker 1: I mean, there was no finesse whatsoever to that shot.

2391
01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:57,840
Speaker 3: Now, normally we make fun of MMA fighters trying to

2392
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:00,160
Speaker 3: play basketball, whether it be Conor McGregor or Habib or

2393
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 3: Herbab's dad going shirtless and just punching people on the court.

2394
01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:06,440
Speaker 3: And you know that Doagistani style of basketball which involves

2395
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:10,679
Speaker 3: uh violence. Yeah, yeah, you know who can actually ball?

2396
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:14,720
Speaker 3: Cyril gone? And I'm trying to say Cyril like Shaquille

2397
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:15,880
Speaker 3: Missouri says it.

2398
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:17,400
Speaker 2: Check this out, y'all.

2399
01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:19,800
Speaker 1: That regulation.

2400
01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:22,120
Speaker 3: I mean, it could be an eight foot hoop like

2401
01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:24,880
Speaker 3: above the rim.

2402
01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:29,400
Speaker 4: Oh shit, man, he could ball. I already could ball.

2403
01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:31,280
Speaker 4: That's the first footage I've seen of it. That's uh,

2404
01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:32,280
Speaker 4: that's pretty impressive.

2405
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:34,080
Speaker 3: Man, That's that's not bad.

2406
01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:37,080
Speaker 2: Now, chuck to close here. You've heard about.

2407
01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:39,559
Speaker 3: My liver problems, probably at nauseam, and I've got non

2408
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:43,559
Speaker 3: alcoholic fatty liver disease from years of you know, eating

2409
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:45,720
Speaker 3: out of gas stations and just yes, you know, not

2410
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:47,800
Speaker 3: putting my health first. And now I'm, you know, a

2411
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 3: humbled guy trying to change that.

2412
01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 1: Sure.

2413
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:53,679
Speaker 3: But speaking of livers, are you down with the liver

2414
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:54,599
Speaker 3: King on Instagram?

2415
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:56,000
Speaker 1: Ah?

2416
01:43:57,120 --> 01:44:02,360
Speaker 3: No, Well, liver King lives a very old school diet.

2417
01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

2418
01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:08,960
Speaker 3: And here's him taking a bite out of an actual

2419
01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:12,960
Speaker 3: liver from a cow. So this guy only eats raw

2420
01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:16,920
Speaker 3: meat and he walks all over like the migrant people

2421
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:20,160
Speaker 3: used to carrying weight and that's what he does for workouts.

2422
01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:24,800
Speaker 3: Luke thinks he's all over peds chuck. But just your thought,

2423
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:26,880
Speaker 3: what would it what kind of cash value would it

2424
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 3: take for you to take a bite out of this.

2425
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:30,960
Speaker 1: Dude? It wouldn't come cheap.

2426
01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:33,680
Speaker 4: Two hundred and fifty bucks now, I'm kidding, come on,

2427
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:34,680
Speaker 4: I wouldn't do it.

2428
01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:37,880
Speaker 3: I'm with you on that. My dad used to always

2429
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:40,200
Speaker 3: have that, you know, dilemma of would you eat crap

2430
01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:42,320
Speaker 3: for you know, two million dollars? You'd be like, of

2431
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:42,960
Speaker 3: course I would.

2432
01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:45,839
Speaker 2: I'm be like standards and like a lot of money,

2433
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:48,719
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, this guy liver King though, he's.

2434
01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:51,880
Speaker 1: Jack that is that is that's really what they call him. Like,

2435
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:52,599
Speaker 1: what's what is this?

2436
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:52,720
Speaker 3: Oh?

2437
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:54,960
Speaker 2: He refers to himself in third person as liver King.

2438
01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:56,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'll have to check this out.

2439
01:44:56,960 --> 01:44:58,920
Speaker 3: But they got to get it. They're members of the

2440
01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:02,439
Speaker 3: MK staff. Give my liver history that are hoping for

2441
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:05,840
Speaker 3: like a interview guest spot type deal here with the

2442
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:06,960
Speaker 3: with the real liver King.

2443
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:09,120
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I would watch that.

2444
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:11,240
Speaker 2: All right, Well that's the shit of the week.

2445
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:13,000
Speaker 3: But we got a little bit more shit for you

2446
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:17,519
Speaker 3: in the segment that we call odds and and Chuck.

2447
01:45:17,560 --> 01:45:18,519
Speaker 2: I'll go first here.

2448
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:21,519
Speaker 3: They've been waiting for our reactions, so why don't we

2449
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:22,080
Speaker 3: give it to him.

2450
01:45:22,160 --> 01:45:24,600
Speaker 2: Jake Paul teased that he was putting.

2451
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:28,080
Speaker 3: Out a dish track against UFC president Dana White, and

2452
01:45:28,640 --> 01:45:31,840
Speaker 3: boy was it ambitious. Over three minutes this music video.

2453
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 2: I believe we have a.

2454
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:36,760
Speaker 3: Little cut to throw to to react to this piece

2455
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:37,080
Speaker 3: of art.

2456
01:45:37,120 --> 01:45:42,920
Speaker 4: Okay, fu fuck Dano White.

2457
01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:46,840
Speaker 6: First of all, mosveta, you ain't rich, shifty, fights before

2458
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:50,599
Speaker 6: mail that ain't shit, underpaid, fights where the healthcare rights

2459
01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:52,760
Speaker 6: got them risking all their lives and they can't quit.

2460
01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:54,120
Speaker 3: Fuck the big bags.

2461
01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:57,480
Speaker 6: That's the shit I came with. I like having money conversation.

2462
01:45:58,439 --> 01:46:00,360
Speaker 6: All that little stock and shit is cool, but that

2463
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:02,759
Speaker 6: lists got me thinking, do you speak a different language?

2464
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:05,760
Speaker 6: All gas like propane, Dana, once you lay up all

2465
01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:08,479
Speaker 6: that cocaine. Of course, he said, my fights to fixing.

2466
01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 1: Now, I say, Sarah, it.

2467
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:11,840
Speaker 6: Should really on a Ali Lomain chilling.

2468
01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:13,160
Speaker 1: But Greg, I ain't seen you.

2469
01:46:13,120 --> 01:46:16,599
Speaker 6: Win in five years, rich, little weirdo, ugly as veneers

2470
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:19,440
Speaker 6: and took so many losses, wounded up in VMA.

2471
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:20,400
Speaker 3: Trying to fight with mg K.

2472
01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 6: No surprise here, Lamborghini BoPET your career sinking really got me.

2473
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 6: Wonder him with de is thinking I ain't even now

2474
01:46:28,439 --> 01:46:30,800
Speaker 6: really speaking, wounded up in jail too many times without

2475
01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:31,880
Speaker 6: a liquor drinking.

2476
01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:37,320
Speaker 3: Little little d deviling shot right there.

2477
01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:40,000
Speaker 1: You know, I like them. He's putting on his voice.

2478
01:46:40,040 --> 01:46:41,960
Speaker 1: It's uh, don't chuck.

2479
01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:45,320
Speaker 3: He had an actor, a bald actor who is nowhere

2480
01:46:45,320 --> 01:46:48,000
Speaker 3: near the build of one playing data.

2481
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:50,160
Speaker 1: Is also like twenty years older than Dana White.

2482
01:46:50,240 --> 01:46:51,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, chuck, here's the deal.

2483
01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:55,280
Speaker 3: I have supported Jake's antics a lot because I think

2484
01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:57,160
Speaker 3: he's bringing to light things that need to He's not

2485
01:46:57,240 --> 01:47:00,320
Speaker 3: backing down from Dana. I thought he completely trolled Dana

2486
01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:02,760
Speaker 3: on that back and forth video thing they had. This

2487
01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:04,960
Speaker 3: is next level. I don't believe this is going to

2488
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:07,599
Speaker 3: bring a response from Dana because I think this was

2489
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:11,439
Speaker 3: a little bit too far over the lame left field fence,

2490
01:47:11,479 --> 01:47:15,160
Speaker 3: like it was, you know, like he went for and

2491
01:47:15,479 --> 01:47:16,679
Speaker 3: h you know, I mean.

2492
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:19,559
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I agree with you. It's what

2493
01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 1: the kids call a try hard. You know. It's like

2494
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:23,559
Speaker 1: it's a little bit it's a little bit trying too hard.

2495
01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:23,760
Speaker 4: Man.

2496
01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:26,519
Speaker 3: They've called me a try hard before in this show. Yeah, yeah,

2497
01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:27,760
Speaker 3: well I have tried pretty hard.

2498
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:30,960
Speaker 4: No wait, somebody sent me this and I watched it

2499
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 4: on my phone days ago. But like Chris Cyborg is

2500
01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:36,880
Speaker 4: at the beginning, right, like she's at the beginning of this.

2501
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:39,800
Speaker 3: Antonio McKee also, I knew there are.

2502
01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:42,040
Speaker 1: A couple of cameos. Okay, that's pretty funny.

2503
01:47:42,360 --> 01:47:43,599
Speaker 2: I mean, so like that's the point.

2504
01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:46,200
Speaker 3: The little skit they did was Cyborg sitting at the

2505
01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:49,719
Speaker 3: negotiation table with Dana White and then telling her basically,

2506
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:51,240
Speaker 3: she has no rights sign it. This will be the

2507
01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:53,880
Speaker 3: best thing that ever happened to you. So he's exposing

2508
01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:55,800
Speaker 3: the right things. I just feel like he went so

2509
01:47:56,040 --> 01:47:58,840
Speaker 3: hard in that direction that the real Dana is just

2510
01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:03,839
Speaker 3: going to be like what ever, I agree with Gibson whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,

2511
01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:04,800
Speaker 3: I don't mind.

2512
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:06,000
Speaker 1: And he can keep doing that.

2513
01:48:06,040 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 4: I mean, this was a little silly, but like he

2514
01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:11,360
Speaker 4: can keep you know, pounding that drum though. I mean

2515
01:48:11,400 --> 01:48:13,960
Speaker 4: that's I feel like it's you're hitting Dana in a

2516
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:16,080
Speaker 4: weak spot when you talk business things like this, and

2517
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:18,479
Speaker 4: you keep waszing the awareness that that's the one spot

2518
01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:19,559
Speaker 4: he hates you know, so.

2519
01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:22,679
Speaker 3: I mean the only other time we've seen Dana back

2520
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:26,559
Speaker 3: down publicly was when Brendan shab pushed the Eskimo brother thing,

2521
01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:30,400
Speaker 3: and he was like last time, right, and then suddenly

2522
01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:32,559
Speaker 3: like I was like, all right, all right, I'll step

2523
01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:33,240
Speaker 3: away from.

2524
01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:34,760
Speaker 1: The duel here.

2525
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:38,559
Speaker 4: There are some some roads in Dana's that are too low,

2526
01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:39,360
Speaker 4: that are too low.

2527
01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:43,360
Speaker 3: So you know, you do get the john S Nash

2528
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:45,479
Speaker 3: types of guy. I do respect despite having some back

2529
01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:48,439
Speaker 3: and forth with him that he's saying, look, it's all good,

2530
01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:52,880
Speaker 3: but unless this guy's like becoming the beorn revenue and

2531
01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:55,320
Speaker 3: trying to start the fighter union that he keeps talking about.

2532
01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:57,240
Speaker 3: And by the way, I do have a specific quote.

2533
01:48:57,280 --> 01:49:01,000
Speaker 3: He was on ESPN's first take, and Jake said, I

2534
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:03,120
Speaker 3: want to create a fighters union. This is my goal

2535
01:49:03,160 --> 01:49:05,880
Speaker 3: to really impact the whole entire sport, both MMA and boxing,

2536
01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 3: and leave an everlasting stamp. I just so happened to

2537
01:49:09,200 --> 01:49:11,799
Speaker 3: not be beholden to anybody. A lot of these UFC fighters,

2538
01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:14,559
Speaker 3: they're beholden to Dana. They can't speak out against him.

2539
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:16,519
Speaker 3: So I'm using my platform. I'm one of very few

2540
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:19,599
Speaker 3: people who actually can I'll say whatever I'll speak the truth.

2541
01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:22,040
Speaker 3: I'm doing what my responsibility is as a fighter and

2542
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:25,160
Speaker 3: someone who cares about other fighters, Chuck, I've argued that

2543
01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:29,560
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily believe that he like really cares. I

2544
01:49:29,640 --> 01:49:33,519
Speaker 3: think this is just a strategic soapbox to stand on

2545
01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:37,639
Speaker 3: to try to make changes. Why so he could get

2546
01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:40,160
Speaker 3: those fighters in the ring against him, like masvid Al

2547
01:49:40,240 --> 01:49:42,360
Speaker 3: Khan or all those guys. Do you agree with the

2548
01:49:42,439 --> 01:49:45,080
Speaker 3: john ashes that say, it's cool that you're doing this,

2549
01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:48,240
Speaker 3: but unless you're like actually gonna join hands and try

2550
01:49:48,280 --> 01:49:52,639
Speaker 3: to start something meaning I guess a union, it really

2551
01:49:52,720 --> 01:49:54,879
Speaker 3: doesn't matter. How do you feel that statement?

2552
01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:59,720
Speaker 4: I basically agree with that, you know, I mean, we

2553
01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:03,599
Speaker 4: could we can say that the intentions are pure. There

2554
01:50:03,680 --> 01:50:05,880
Speaker 4: might be an ounce of truth to that. But I

2555
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:07,800
Speaker 4: if you're going off with this guy, he's what twenty

2556
01:50:07,840 --> 01:50:09,519
Speaker 4: four to twenty five years old, he's very young, but

2557
01:50:09,560 --> 01:50:13,840
Speaker 4: he's mastered this, you know, like he's mastered the game

2558
01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:16,160
Speaker 4: he's playing already, and I feel like this is just

2559
01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:17,600
Speaker 4: part of that game, you know what I mean. So

2560
01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:20,599
Speaker 4: he's poking the bear in the right way, and he's

2561
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:22,840
Speaker 4: getting people want to they talk about they want to

2562
01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:24,559
Speaker 4: fight him. Man, they want, they want his money. He's

2563
01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:27,200
Speaker 4: pulling in money that these guys aren't doing. Like it

2564
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:30,400
Speaker 4: reminds me, but on a bigger scale of Ben Asgrin

2565
01:50:30,479 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 4: when he came to the UC and everything was the subplot,

2566
01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:34,320
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like where it was him

2567
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:37,360
Speaker 4: against Dana. He's doing it from afar man and it's

2568
01:50:37,400 --> 01:50:40,400
Speaker 4: a people you know, I know that people blow him

2569
01:50:40,479 --> 01:50:42,680
Speaker 4: up on the side saying that it is refreshing that

2570
01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 4: somebody's doing that. So it's interesting, man, But it's just

2571
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:46,439
Speaker 4: his game.

2572
01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:47,559
Speaker 1: It's his game. It's a game.

2573
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:49,960
Speaker 3: Look, there are some Robin Hood elements as we mentioned,

2574
01:50:49,960 --> 01:50:52,439
Speaker 3: and getting Sano paid and you know, pushing her to

2575
01:50:52,479 --> 01:50:55,439
Speaker 3: the forefront that hasn't been a horrible move all. The

2576
01:50:55,479 --> 01:51:00,360
Speaker 3: only thing is Chuck. It wasn't the worst fight combat

2577
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:02,760
Speaker 3: of the week. Remember I mentioned a couple weeks ago

2578
01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:06,000
Speaker 3: fans that Miris Bradest the best cruiserweight fighter in the

2579
01:51:06,040 --> 01:51:07,840
Speaker 3: world today, that one of the he's got one of

2580
01:51:07,880 --> 01:51:11,240
Speaker 3: the belts. He's only lost with Alexander Usik in a thriller.

2581
01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:15,200
Speaker 2: This guy's legit. He won't stop calling out Jake Paul

2582
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:18,280
Speaker 2: and now he also has a.

2583
01:51:18,360 --> 01:51:21,000
Speaker 3: Disk track video. Let's throw to it.

2584
01:51:22,479 --> 01:51:25,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean who's doing it?

2585
01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:26,680
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna prove that.

2586
01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:27,040
Speaker 4: You know.

2587
01:51:27,080 --> 01:51:29,679
Speaker 6: That's the beautiful thing about this is I'm gonna become

2588
01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:33,760
Speaker 6: a world champion because everyone said I couldn't and that

2589
01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:34,879
Speaker 6: I wasn't a real boxer.

2590
01:51:36,560 --> 01:51:38,760
Speaker 1: Hey, Jake, have about the real man's fight.

2591
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:40,200
Speaker 3: I will put my belts on table.

2592
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Speaker 1: Do you wanna take a fight?

2593
01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:41,720
Speaker 6: Fight?

2594
01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:44,760
Speaker 5: Looks like you sear your little bitch boy kid, pick

2595
01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:47,840
Speaker 5: up the phone and put down your looks like you

2596
01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:51,120
Speaker 5: have a little monkey balls only hanging around with the

2597
01:51:51,200 --> 01:51:52,400
Speaker 5: barnhout bells.

2598
01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:55,200
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry. I guess that was your girl. She's

2599
01:51:55,240 --> 01:51:57,559
Speaker 1: try to find her nuts like a little girl.

2600
01:51:57,720 --> 01:51:58,519
Speaker 3: I promise EL.

2601
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:00,920
Speaker 5: Will shot you a little I played.

2602
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:01,840
Speaker 6: Did you run around?

2603
01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:02,800
Speaker 1: You out?

2604
01:52:02,920 --> 01:52:05,639
Speaker 3: I will show the world was set up.

2605
01:52:05,720 --> 01:52:06,840
Speaker 1: I butt you so hard?

2606
01:52:06,880 --> 01:52:11,760
Speaker 5: Did you want to get up? Just don't get up? Jake,

2607
01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:16,320
Speaker 5: just don't get up? Hey, Jake, just don't get up.

2608
01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:19,000
Speaker 5: I thought you're so hard. Did you want to get up?

2609
01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:26,559
Speaker 1: Get up with? Get up?

2610
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:30,799
Speaker 3: Yeah? He did, and he talked about his little monkey balls.

2611
01:52:31,240 --> 01:52:35,600
Speaker 1: Chuck also in two syllables for the word world. That's impressive.

2612
01:52:35,720 --> 01:52:38,479
Speaker 3: Well he's from Latvia, so you know he did this

2613
01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:39,840
Speaker 3: in English, let's give him credit.

2614
01:52:39,880 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 2: But Chuck will give him credit.

2615
01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:44,000
Speaker 3: He also got the tattoo that we railed on him

2616
01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:46,200
Speaker 3: for that had the same image of that T shirt

2617
01:52:46,240 --> 01:52:48,880
Speaker 3: he was wearing that says, what Jake's bad luck or

2618
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:50,320
Speaker 3: something or bad karma?

2619
01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:52,519
Speaker 2: What the I mean, what the hell are you doing?

2620
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:56,519
Speaker 3: Like like this is so misguided, this attempt. It's like,

2621
01:52:56,800 --> 01:53:01,320
Speaker 3: there's no chance Jake Paul is going to fight yeah,

2622
01:53:01,640 --> 01:53:05,000
Speaker 3: champion in his own weight class who has no marketable

2623
01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:08,080
Speaker 3: footprint globally in terms of like drawing.

2624
01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:08,280
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

2625
01:53:08,360 --> 01:53:14,400
Speaker 3: Like like like Chuck, Jake saying he'll fight Canelo is

2626
01:53:14,439 --> 01:53:17,479
Speaker 3: basically him saying, I know I'm gonna get killed, but

2627
01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:19,920
Speaker 3: sure it'll be a massive event.

2628
01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:20,960
Speaker 2: I'll make history.

2629
01:53:21,439 --> 01:53:24,640
Speaker 3: I persuaded the number one boxer in the world in

2630
01:53:24,680 --> 01:53:27,320
Speaker 3: his prime to to accept me as a as a

2631
01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:28,240
Speaker 3: legitimate opponent.

2632
01:53:28,240 --> 01:53:30,400
Speaker 2: That's what that says, right, Whether you clown on.

2633
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:32,479
Speaker 3: It or not, I think it's a horrible idea for

2634
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:35,120
Speaker 3: Jake to ever consider a Canalo fight. But you know

2635
01:53:35,240 --> 01:53:38,400
Speaker 3: what's ten times more horrible him fighting Myris Brightest Under

2636
01:53:38,439 --> 01:53:40,080
Speaker 3: any circumstance.

2637
01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:46,360
Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen, man, what do Yeah, yeah, you're

2638
01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:46,840
Speaker 1: not gonna and.

2639
01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:49,160
Speaker 4: I gonna get on his nerves and change his mind

2640
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:50,000
Speaker 4: by agitating.

2641
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:51,599
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, come on.

2642
01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:55,240
Speaker 3: The balls, chuck. What you got in your monkey balls

2643
01:53:55,280 --> 01:53:56,600
Speaker 3: frauds and ends today.

2644
01:53:56,880 --> 01:53:57,559
Speaker 1: You know what? Man?

2645
01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:02,720
Speaker 4: So we were watching the Royal rumb and Lashly went

2646
01:54:02,760 --> 01:54:05,160
Speaker 4: against brock Lesner, and afterwards, I think this is a

2647
01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:07,759
Speaker 4: little bit interesting, right, because both guys did have spells

2648
01:54:07,760 --> 01:54:11,000
Speaker 4: in MMA. Obviously brock Lesner is more decorated. But afterwards,

2649
01:54:11,200 --> 01:54:14,799
Speaker 4: Bobby Lashley was asked about about that, how he compared

2650
01:54:14,840 --> 01:54:16,679
Speaker 4: to brock Lesner as an MMA fighter.

2651
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:17,760
Speaker 1: Did you see that?

2652
01:54:17,880 --> 01:54:21,880
Speaker 4: Basically Lashly was saying that he's better than brock Lesnor

2653
01:54:21,960 --> 01:54:24,599
Speaker 4: and he thinks that he's actually better than him. I

2654
01:54:24,640 --> 01:54:26,759
Speaker 4: just thought that was really interesting and it actually brings

2655
01:54:26,840 --> 01:54:29,680
Speaker 4: up kind of a you know, a thing that you

2656
01:54:30,720 --> 01:54:33,760
Speaker 4: a point of contention. I'm like, because he was mentioning Basically,

2657
01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:37,440
Speaker 4: he said that without disrespecting him, he's capable of he

2658
01:54:37,480 --> 01:54:40,680
Speaker 4: has far more skill skill wise that He's taught boxing

2659
01:54:40,760 --> 01:54:44,920
Speaker 4: jiu jitsu at his gym. He was fighting Strike Force. Obviously,

2660
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:47,720
Speaker 4: he had some pro fights in Bellator. He's just pointing

2661
01:54:47,720 --> 01:54:51,800
Speaker 4: this out now, I'm asking you BC, like, if you

2662
01:54:51,920 --> 01:54:53,760
Speaker 4: had to talk about this, if you had to say

2663
01:54:53,760 --> 01:54:56,400
Speaker 4: who has more skills, because I know who has it

2664
01:54:56,440 --> 01:55:00,560
Speaker 4: more decorated, who has the more decorated MMA career?

2665
01:55:01,000 --> 01:55:02,920
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, is this a drug tested food

2666
01:55:03,040 --> 01:55:05,920
Speaker 3: or not? Because that well that that doesn't matter both.

2667
01:55:06,040 --> 01:55:09,080
Speaker 3: I mean, you mean last he's forty five and he's

2668
01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:13,760
Speaker 3: yoked up. Dude, He's like he is, Yeah, all right,

2669
01:55:14,280 --> 01:55:17,080
Speaker 3: Let's say this happens obviously outside of the UFC, so

2670
01:55:17,160 --> 01:55:22,480
Speaker 3: there's probably not strict drug distant protocol. You know, it's

2671
01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:25,160
Speaker 3: actually an interesting matchup. I'd actually be down for it.

2672
01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:29,320
Speaker 3: So here's my question on how this could transition from

2673
01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:31,880
Speaker 3: a ww E angle and a feud fans of wanted

2674
01:55:31,880 --> 01:55:33,600
Speaker 3: for a long time to be fair because of their

2675
01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:38,360
Speaker 3: their backgrounds, to an actual fight. How long does the

2676
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:42,240
Speaker 3: UFC hold some type of first rights to brock Lessner

2677
01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:46,000
Speaker 3: because GSP still can't he can't celebrity box right now

2678
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:48,680
Speaker 3: because he's waiting out that whatever. That that period is

2679
01:55:48,680 --> 01:55:50,680
Speaker 3: the same period that Francis and Ghana is, right, the

2680
01:55:50,720 --> 01:55:54,240
Speaker 3: five year period. How much longer would it be because

2681
01:55:54,280 --> 01:55:58,640
Speaker 3: brock Lesner has one of these names where whatever promotion,

2682
01:55:58,720 --> 01:56:01,560
Speaker 3: whether it's Habibe or Bellator or anybody, if they can

2683
01:56:02,120 --> 01:56:04,160
Speaker 3: pull something like this off, you're gonna watch it.

2684
01:56:04,240 --> 01:56:05,160
Speaker 2: Dude, You're gonna watch it.

2685
01:56:06,200 --> 01:56:08,480
Speaker 4: And even in the lead up, even though it was

2686
01:56:08,520 --> 01:56:12,400
Speaker 4: a pro wrestling event, Bobby Lashley was saying, like, I

2687
01:56:12,760 --> 01:56:14,800
Speaker 4: think he's talking to quite great as the dude who's Luni,

2688
01:56:14,920 --> 01:56:17,960
Speaker 4: but he was he was mentioning that he had no soul.

2689
01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:19,360
Speaker 4: Did you see all this stuff? Like he was like,

2690
01:56:19,400 --> 01:56:21,800
Speaker 4: he has no soy time. It's just that sort of thing.

2691
01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:24,120
Speaker 4: I was like, man, it actually kind of has you

2692
01:56:24,200 --> 01:56:27,440
Speaker 4: fantasizing about. You know, if they ever did actually fight,

2693
01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:29,920
Speaker 4: that would be that's the kind of thing, like a

2694
01:56:29,960 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 4: novelty type fight that I would be totally down to watch,

2695
01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:35,320
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, just given that, like you said,

2696
01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:37,600
Speaker 4: as long as there's no commission standing over them saying

2697
01:56:37,600 --> 01:56:40,080
Speaker 4: you can't you know, do whatever they're gonna do.

2698
01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:42,360
Speaker 3: Do I want brock Lesnard to cut the line and

2699
01:56:42,400 --> 01:56:45,080
Speaker 3: like he almost did to fight Daniel Cormier for the title. No,

2700
01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:47,560
Speaker 3: do I want Brock I mean, you know, what's the

2701
01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:50,280
Speaker 3: what's the number one thing you would accept from the UFC?

2702
01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:52,800
Speaker 3: Would you accept the UFC bringing in Brock to to

2703
01:56:52,920 --> 01:56:54,320
Speaker 3: debut John Jones a heavyweight.

2704
01:56:54,320 --> 01:56:56,120
Speaker 2: I think we'd clown it, but we'd accept it.

2705
01:56:56,560 --> 01:56:59,000
Speaker 3: But like, I really only want to see Brock in

2706
01:56:59,080 --> 01:57:03,560
Speaker 3: potential like circus fights, right, like you know, like it

2707
01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:05,400
Speaker 3: makes he's sort of a guy.

2708
01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:06,960
Speaker 2: I mean he went legitimate.

2709
01:57:07,120 --> 01:57:11,760
Speaker 3: He was, He was absolutely legit for two thousand and eight.

2710
01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:16,800
Speaker 4: Just in their credentials obviously, brock Lesner his his list

2711
01:57:16,840 --> 01:57:20,440
Speaker 4: of guys he's beat, Shane Carwin, Frank Muir avenged that fight,

2712
01:57:20,600 --> 01:57:22,000
Speaker 4: Randy Couture, and Heath Herring.

2713
01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:24,400
Speaker 1: Those are pretty good names.

2714
01:57:24,760 --> 01:57:27,480
Speaker 4: And carl Win especially like where he got just you know,

2715
01:57:27,960 --> 01:57:30,280
Speaker 4: blasted in the first round and was able to do it.

2716
01:57:30,320 --> 01:57:32,480
Speaker 1: So he actually showed some some.

2717
01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:34,320
Speaker 4: Ability to take a shot, even though I think that

2718
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:36,640
Speaker 4: that was his biggest downfalls. He didn't like being punched, right,

2719
01:57:36,640 --> 01:57:38,480
Speaker 4: like he's in the MMA game, but he doesn't like

2720
01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:41,440
Speaker 4: getting punched. Lashley's biggest Now this is a whole different

2721
01:57:41,960 --> 01:57:44,320
Speaker 4: setup obviously, but if you're going off with the resumes,

2722
01:57:44,640 --> 01:57:52,880
Speaker 4: he avenged a loss against James Thompson. Yes, yeah, it's

2723
01:57:52,880 --> 01:57:57,440
Speaker 4: like twenty and seventeen record. Josh Appelt, Who's I think

2724
01:57:57,480 --> 01:57:59,320
Speaker 4: his last thing that we saw him was on the

2725
01:57:59,400 --> 01:58:02,560
Speaker 4: Dana Wait Content series fifteen and seven overall record he'd

2726
01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:05,560
Speaker 4: beat Jason Guida, you know that Geico Caveman that hits

2727
01:58:05,680 --> 01:58:08,640
Speaker 4: h Clay Guida before his fights and Wes Simms, you know,

2728
01:58:08,680 --> 01:58:09,000
Speaker 4: let's go.

2729
01:58:09,000 --> 01:58:10,720
Speaker 1: I mean those are those are his best visiar you.

2730
01:58:10,760 --> 01:58:14,480
Speaker 3: Beat Bob Sap Okay, all right, yeah, okay, nobody does that, Chuck,

2731
01:58:14,520 --> 01:58:15,800
Speaker 3: all right, nobody does that.

2732
01:58:16,720 --> 01:58:16,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2733
01:58:17,040 --> 01:58:19,760
Speaker 4: Anyway, I just I thought it was perfect for the

2734
01:58:19,800 --> 01:58:22,720
Speaker 4: odds and ends because it actually peaks your curiosity as

2735
01:58:22,720 --> 01:58:24,760
Speaker 4: to what would actually happen in a fight between those guys.

2736
01:58:24,920 --> 01:58:27,080
Speaker 2: I mean, Jake Hager is also in that category.

2737
01:58:27,120 --> 01:58:30,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, like prow wrestler who's had some fights on the

2738
01:58:30,160 --> 01:58:30,960
Speaker 3: side with Bellatour.

2739
01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:33,480
Speaker 2: It's uh, you can make some fun fights with these.

2740
01:58:33,320 --> 01:58:36,240
Speaker 3: Guys against one another. It's interesting. All right, Chuck, that's

2741
01:58:36,280 --> 01:58:38,400
Speaker 3: the show for this weekend. Thank you for going two

2742
01:58:38,520 --> 01:58:40,080
Speaker 3: hard hours with us.

2743
01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:41,640
Speaker 1: Okay, I love it, man, Thank you love it.

2744
01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:46,000
Speaker 3: Two hard men just going after it. A reminder morning

2745
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Speaker 3: six best in Show brought to you by the great

2758
01:59:32,440 --> 01:59:35,160
Speaker 3: Jake Roseman Hits and I want to tell you, Chuck,

2759
01:59:35,560 --> 01:59:38,720
Speaker 3: you haven't watched these docs. But Luke has a long

2760
01:59:38,960 --> 01:59:42,280
Speaker 3: history of no selling, of not showing up to his

2761
01:59:42,760 --> 01:59:45,800
Speaker 3: to his you know, confessional interview times, to just being

2762
01:59:45,880 --> 01:59:49,400
Speaker 3: like I don't care. He bought in on this dock, okay,

2763
01:59:49,840 --> 01:59:52,440
Speaker 3: and him and his wife loved it so much that

2764
01:59:52,440 --> 01:59:54,680
Speaker 3: that was a part of text messages where Jake's where

2765
01:59:54,680 --> 01:59:57,840
Speaker 3: he's pushing Jake the documentarian to like, hurry up and

2766
01:59:57,840 --> 02:00:01,480
Speaker 3: finish it, Luke. So this has to be that guy.

2767
02:00:01,680 --> 02:00:02,640
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see this.

2768
02:00:02,760 --> 02:00:04,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, this has the potential to be our best one.

2769
02:00:05,080 --> 02:00:10,080
Speaker 3: I mean, okay, we'll see. We'll see what that drops tomorrow. Chuck,

2770
02:00:10,120 --> 02:00:13,160
Speaker 3: we just flashed your social handles. I always want to

2771
02:00:13,160 --> 02:00:15,480
Speaker 3: give you a chance to plug some stuff. Your website.

2772
02:00:15,560 --> 02:00:18,120
Speaker 1: What is it officially the myth dot com?

2773
02:00:18,200 --> 02:00:19,920
Speaker 4: I need to start writing on it more. I'm gonna

2774
02:00:19,920 --> 02:00:21,800
Speaker 4: start writing in it more. But it's the myth dot com.

2775
02:00:21,880 --> 02:00:23,920
Speaker 4: M I t h yep, I'm there all the time,

2776
02:00:23,960 --> 02:00:25,520
Speaker 4: and yep, yep.

2777
02:00:25,600 --> 02:00:28,880
Speaker 3: And do you currently you have one podcast currently?

2778
02:00:28,880 --> 02:00:32,320
Speaker 1: Correct? I currently have one podcast. Yes, it's them.

2779
02:00:32,440 --> 02:00:35,440
Speaker 4: It's the Ringer MMA Show and it's the Spotify Green

2780
02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:37,960
Speaker 4: Room and then it's later released as a podcast. So

2781
02:00:38,160 --> 02:00:41,560
Speaker 4: every Thursday, well it's kind of after every big event

2782
02:00:41,600 --> 02:00:43,760
Speaker 4: on Saturday nights go ahead to head with Luke, I

2783
02:00:43,800 --> 02:00:44,880
Speaker 4: guess in that sense.

2784
02:00:45,160 --> 02:00:48,320
Speaker 1: But also just regular fight weeks. We do a Thursday

2785
02:00:48,360 --> 02:00:50,520
Speaker 1: pre show and then a Saturday late night show.

2786
02:00:50,960 --> 02:00:54,640
Speaker 3: Okay, Now, if Luke perishes on the plane home, it's

2787
02:00:54,760 --> 02:00:57,520
Speaker 3: an awful thing to say out loud, Yes we're gonna

2788
02:00:57,560 --> 02:00:59,080
Speaker 3: need you, Chuck, all right, we're gonna.

2789
02:00:58,840 --> 02:01:01,360
Speaker 1: Need I'll be here man, if you p yeah, I'll

2790
02:01:01,400 --> 02:01:01,800
Speaker 1: be here.

2791
02:01:02,080 --> 02:01:04,600
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, thank you. I don't know if anyone's

2792
02:01:04,600 --> 02:01:06,600
Speaker 3: looking forward to that's an awful thing to say out loud.

2793
02:01:06,680 --> 02:01:10,200
Speaker 3: We wish you well, we love you, come back safely, Chuck,

2794
02:01:10,280 --> 02:01:14,600
Speaker 3: thank you so much. You're joining us this week. Thank

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Speaker 3: February eighteenth. Check that out in Orlando on Showtime, Chuck.

2799
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Speaker 2: Do you like seventies neo noir thrillers or is it

2800
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Speaker 2: just me?

2801
02:01:29,680 --> 02:01:31,680
Speaker 1: Didn't you ask me this last time? I need to

2802
02:01:31,760 --> 02:01:33,480
Speaker 1: check out more of them? I think, Okay.

2803
02:01:34,240 --> 02:01:35,920
Speaker 3: I mean, you know you're a big taxi driver guy.

2804
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Speaker 2: I do like that on our face, Godfather one and two,

2805
02:01:39,560 --> 02:01:40,480
Speaker 2: all the all the hits.

2806
02:01:40,560 --> 02:01:42,760
Speaker 3: But I'll have to go a little bit deeper down

2807
02:01:42,800 --> 02:01:46,200
Speaker 3: the Pacino and to Naro IMDb and you find some

2808
02:01:46,680 --> 02:01:49,760
Speaker 3: find some interesting ones, you know, like what Cerca co,

2809
02:01:50,360 --> 02:01:53,840
Speaker 3: like Justice for All? I mean, all right, anytime Pacino's

2810
02:01:53,880 --> 02:01:58,160
Speaker 3: playing a a straight cop in a crooked environment, or

2811
02:01:58,160 --> 02:02:01,960
Speaker 3: he's playing you know, like a lawyer, a straight lawyer

2812
02:02:01,960 --> 02:02:04,000
Speaker 3: and a crooked environment, it's going to be a winner. Okay,

2813
02:02:04,040 --> 02:02:05,040
Speaker 3: it's going to be pretty.

2814
02:02:05,200 --> 02:02:08,280
Speaker 2: And I watched The Gambler with James James Khan.

2815
02:02:08,280 --> 02:02:10,320
Speaker 1: By the way, Chuck, James Con is awesome.

2816
02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:13,920
Speaker 3: James Conn is everything I want to be Prime James Conn.

2817
02:02:14,000 --> 02:02:16,000
Speaker 2: Not Misery. He was great a Misery, but not Misery.

2818
02:02:16,080 --> 02:02:19,040
Speaker 3: James Con I'm talking about like James Connas Sonny and

2819
02:02:19,040 --> 02:02:21,480
Speaker 3: Godfather Won obviously is who I want to be when

2820
02:02:21,520 --> 02:02:24,160
Speaker 3: I grew up. But you know, James Conn in The

2821
02:02:24,160 --> 02:02:26,560
Speaker 3: Thief and Thief and The Gambler, I mean, you got

2822
02:02:26,640 --> 02:02:29,760
Speaker 3: to you gotta watch this, ye yeah, would probably make

2823
02:02:29,800 --> 02:02:31,080
Speaker 3: you more than Yeah.

2824
02:02:31,400 --> 02:02:32,280
Speaker 1: He was good in Misery though.

2825
02:02:32,800 --> 02:02:37,240
Speaker 3: He was great in miser sugarcoated. Yeah, yeah, it was

2826
02:02:37,280 --> 02:02:41,760
Speaker 3: a Remember the ending, that final fight scene in Misery,

2827
02:02:41,760 --> 02:02:43,560
Speaker 3: I mean that's it's intense.

2828
02:02:43,680 --> 02:02:45,000
Speaker 1: I want to see that one again. That was a

2829
02:02:45,040 --> 02:02:45,400
Speaker 1: good one.

2830
02:02:45,680 --> 02:02:48,400
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah.

2831
02:02:48,680 --> 02:02:50,400
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get together and watch it on the couch.

2832
02:02:50,600 --> 02:02:53,400
Speaker 3: That would be great. Shirtless, that would be wonderful. Truck,

2833
02:02:53,480 --> 02:02:56,160
Speaker 3: we're big fans of you. Connecticut is your home for now?

2834
02:02:56,280 --> 02:02:57,800
Speaker 3: Are you ever gonna live in Colorado again?

2835
02:02:59,360 --> 02:03:01,000
Speaker 4: Never say that, man, But you know, when you have

2836
02:03:01,080 --> 02:03:03,000
Speaker 4: kids and they're in school and everything, it's too hard

2837
02:03:03,000 --> 02:03:05,000
Speaker 4: to move. I would I would move back there, man,

2838
02:03:05,000 --> 02:03:07,000
Speaker 4: but so much is geared toward the East coast, so

2839
02:03:07,000 --> 02:03:09,600
Speaker 4: it's easier, more convenient to be East coast.

2840
02:03:09,880 --> 02:03:11,520
Speaker 2: Do you have love for CEU football?

2841
02:03:12,720 --> 02:03:15,240
Speaker 1: I do? And Hey, your guy, our guy, the wide

2842
02:03:15,280 --> 02:03:16,200
Speaker 1: receiver coach, right like you?

2843
02:03:16,320 --> 02:03:21,000
Speaker 3: Just a job Yeah, Mel mcco, Bill mckegan, I'm sorry, dude,

2844
02:03:21,160 --> 02:03:23,040
Speaker 3: love me some. Phil mckekan Luke and I got a

2845
02:03:23,120 --> 02:03:24,640
Speaker 3: chance to hang out with him in Tampa. He spoiled

2846
02:03:24,680 --> 02:03:26,920
Speaker 3: us Rotten we All in big time. What a great guy.

2847
02:03:27,120 --> 02:03:30,160
Speaker 4: I've never met him in person, man, but what he's

2848
02:03:30,200 --> 02:03:32,600
Speaker 4: an awesome guy. And he's a big time MMA fan.

2849
02:03:32,960 --> 02:03:35,160
Speaker 4: He's a big time morning combat fan. I see him

2850
02:03:35,160 --> 02:03:36,160
Speaker 4: tweeting about that all the time.

2851
02:03:36,280 --> 02:03:39,000
Speaker 3: Absolutely, he's been an NFL coach a few different stops.

2852
02:03:39,040 --> 02:03:41,160
Speaker 3: You may have seen him on on on the Hard

2853
02:03:41,240 --> 02:03:43,280
Speaker 3: Dat Show, lighting people up. He's now got he's now

2854
02:03:43,320 --> 02:03:46,040
Speaker 3: working with the University of Colorado. Hopefully he could go

2855
02:03:46,080 --> 02:03:47,920
Speaker 3: in there, and you know, hear some great stories about

2856
02:03:47,920 --> 02:03:50,200
Speaker 3: Brendon Shab's days there as a you know, as a

2857
02:03:50,200 --> 02:03:53,200
Speaker 3: fullback and yeah, throwing people through doors and stuff. It's

2858
02:03:53,240 --> 02:03:57,080
Speaker 3: it's fantastic all right, midden Hall. My name is Brian Campbell.

2859
02:03:57,120 --> 02:03:58,880
Speaker 3: This has been a great ride. Shout out to Gaff

2860
02:03:58,920 --> 02:04:01,840
Speaker 3: Pierre on the ones and twos in our great companies

2861
02:04:01,840 --> 02:04:05,600
Speaker 3: behind us. Enjoy yourselves, guys. Winter depression is real, so

2862
02:04:05,920 --> 02:04:09,000
Speaker 3: let's take it seriously. Let's get through this together. Tomorrow's

2863
02:04:09,000 --> 02:04:13,960
Speaker 3: a brighter day. Spring follows winter, Yes, even this year, Chuck, Okay,

2864
02:04:14,040 --> 02:04:16,320
Speaker 3: that's my that's my self help thought of the day.

2865
02:04:16,960 --> 02:04:19,280
Speaker 3: We're in this together. And Chuck, we got two words

2866
02:04:19,280 --> 02:04:21,160
Speaker 3: for the people you want to have it? Sure? Yeah?

2867
02:04:21,200 --> 02:04:25,320
Speaker 1: What what? What are they? Well? Are they? That's yeah? Well,

2868
02:04:25,680 --> 02:04:27,840
Speaker 1: well that's it done.