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Speaker 1: Keen says, listening to y'all talk about how the GOLP

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Speaker 3: here to hear white people say nigga. You like, like,

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Speaker 1: Blue Way Rogers says, I can just post some tone

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Speaker 1: actually listening to us. They just want the hood pass.

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Speaker 1: Trojan Scooter says it would be dependent. It would depend

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Speaker 1: it didn't say what the professor must be a word missing.

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Speaker 1: Al Slim says, yes, only HBCU academic settings with no

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Speaker 1: I don't know. You the one that made that distinction.

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Speaker 1: You gotta answer your own question. Yeah, you gotta answer

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Speaker 2: You just made up. He's like, well, huh did you

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Speaker 1: We did. Stephen says black professors and students, Yes, but

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Speaker 1: or even read that word out loud. Barbara Walters flashback

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Speaker 2: Barbara Walters together on the view over that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, like I said, I just think it's such

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Speaker 1: an emotional topic to certain black folks and you cannot

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Speaker 1: know until after you do it, So why do it?

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Speaker 3: Correct? Correct?

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Speaker 1: Just save everybody the time out of monolift.

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Speaker 3: We are very very different. Yeah, some people want to

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Speaker 3: to go nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, I one hundred

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Speaker 3: percent nigga. Like, we had completely different perspectives on that word.

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Speaker 1: And that was from episode twenty two eighty six Depressed Hodmine.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the episode twenty two eighty seven, Death

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Speaker 1: to Sugar Grits and see what I had to say.

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Speaker 1: Mary says, I repudiate the name of this episode. Being Filipino,

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Speaker 1: we tend to put sugar on everything, even mashed potatoes

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Speaker 1: brought that up, Mary, because if they were team Sugar

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Speaker 2: So that's just a point to my side.

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Speaker 1: Because all of y'all discussing the Heathens can't help y'allselves,

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Speaker 1: and you challenge the rules of nature, the very laws

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Speaker 2: You are playing with the laws of God. Mary, what

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Speaker 2: is wrong with you?

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Speaker 1: You won't be happy until Donald Trump wins another election.

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Speaker 2: Sugar grits are why that man won.

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Speaker 1: Y'all start putting sugar into grits and next thing you know,

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Speaker 1: it's make America great again.

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Speaker 3: White supremacy winns.

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Speaker 1: Come on, man, can't we blend two cultures? I see

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Speaker 1: this as a missed opportunity to reach across the aisle.

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Speaker 1: You can't negotiate with terrorists. Okay, all right, I'll meet

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Speaker 1: with y'all like Joe Biden, But then I'm voting along

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Speaker 1: party lines with your favorite grit people. Love to y'all.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Ev E says, just said no, and so

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Speaker 1: Evy agrees with me on this, finally finally talking some sense.

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Speaker 1: Rex SOLEL Says, can't wait to give us a listen

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Speaker 1: when I get some dinner. Going on back. Glad you

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Speaker 1: to our back, even more glad to hear you made

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Speaker 1: the most of your week off jet setting for Florida

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Speaker 1: to CanCon, the North Dakota, the Texas, going maskless in

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Speaker 1: the swingers clubs, just living your best.

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Speaker 2: Lives now that the pandemic is over.

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Speaker 1: You no heart.

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Speaker 2: Emoji, thank you. You know how we do? We get

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Speaker 2: out here and breathing in some faces.

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Speaker 3: We did not do any of it.

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Speaker 2: Let them breathe in mind.

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Speaker 1: Ms Barr says, I made shrimp and grits for dinner

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Speaker 1: and night this night, this went the night this went live.

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Speaker 1: The first thing that I thought of is how in

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Speaker 1: the name of God can someone fuck up such delicious

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Speaker 1: dish with sugar?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: That's how you know it's bullshit. There's no sugar grits

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Speaker 1: additive recipes. There's a bunch of shit for grits where

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm from here, and I'm just like, listen, man,

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00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 1: you dealing on some racist shit. Protect yourself at all costs.

435
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 3: Fuck it right right, Like like you're saying, that's a

436
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 3: difference in culture, like us, living with it is just dying.

437
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 3: So we don't have the option to quote unquote just

438
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 3: live with it. And the system has done some forms

439
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 3: of adjustment. Here it has done literally no forms of adjustment.

440
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 3: It's just remorphed itself into something different. But the foundations

441
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 3: of it is the same.

442
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, they look at all that shit over there, just different, man.

443
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: And I mean, I can't even imagine the free them

444
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 1: to look at racism differently in America because we have

445
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: it's always on our necks. I can't imagine a world

446
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: where I would Yeah, I can't imagine a world where

447
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 1: I would consider looking at the optics of that and go, well,

448
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: they did it to Diana and they would do it

449
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: to Megan, and that's not really a racial thing. That's

450
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: a royalty thing or some shit I'm like, and then

451
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: some racism on top of it or whatever, like y'all

452
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: want to know what color the baby was.

453
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: There's no way for me to not say that. And

454
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: then like, also, I didn't grow up with.

455
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 1: The reverence for the family, So I don't give a

456
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: fuck about calling them racist. Nope. And well, on a

457
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: personal global level, any of that shit like it doesn't.

458
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: I don't need to have to live in that dichotomy.

459
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: But they are you know, yes, they're they the colonial

460
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 1: on it hard and they've done something.

461
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 2: But also that's who we grew up with. I don't

462
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:53,959
Speaker 2: have to do that.

463
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: I look at that, how I look at the presidency

464
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm sure other places don't look at

465
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: it that way where.

466
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, the.

467
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 1: Obama was president, and I think he was a great president,

468
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: but a president still has to do some things that

469
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I wouldn't want to be responsible for

470
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 1: those things, you know, So maybe they look at it

471
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: that way. I don't know, but.

472
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Speaker 2: It was.

473
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 1: It was an interesting conversation. It's definitely worth listening. I'm

474
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: probably not doing that complete justice, but if you're a

475
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: premium for if you got Patreon for three guys on

476
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: look Forward on Monday, did you watch the Harriet Meghan interview?

477
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 2: Yes or no?

478
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: You know, we both did. Our audience did. Fifty six

479
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Speaker 1: percent didn't. That's a high percentage though we was. We

480
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 1: was all over here paying attention. Blueway Roder says Johnson

481
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: and Johnson vaccine the ghetto, the ghetto. I watched the

482
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,719
Speaker 1: interview but was totally over underwhelmed white people being racist.

483
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 1: You don't say the fact that the royals were worried

484
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 1: about how dark Archie would be proved that they know

485
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: about that slave shit. Back in the day, white men

486
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: could great black women, but now we don't want white

487
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: men marrying black women go figure, what if Archie Porter

488
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: kill Mark and just took over the British monarchy? Black

489
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: panther three my niggah. Yeah, I mean yeah, I don't know.

490
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: The Johnson and Johnson vaccine thing. I'm trying my best

491
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: to be on the show to just kind of push

492
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: back against that thing where people shit on it.

493
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 2: I think people should not do that.

494
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 3: It's a vaccine, my nigga. It is doing its job.

495
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 1: It works, it doesn't you know.

496
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 2: I get that.

497
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: You know, if you want to take the two shot

498
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: when I'm not blaming you if you had that choice,

499
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: but if you don't have that choice, Johnson and Johnson

500
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: is not like some this vaccine can't kill you. I

501
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,719
Speaker 1: think we went into details on the show where I

502
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: talked about how I think I did it here.

503
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 3: Well.

504
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 1: I talked about how like the original trials that the

505
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 1: other two went through were even the same weren't even

506
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: the same ones as Johnson and Johnson went went through.

507
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: So some of that stuff is a little bit misleading

508
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: when they go it's this percentage effective against that first strain.

509
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, didn't just juns, I do variants too when the

510
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 3: first two.

511
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: D yes, Yes, So I just I think maybe look

512
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 1: look into that a little deeper, just because I don't know.

513
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to promote that negativity on the show.

514
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: MS Bond says, this interview shows that even in the

515
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: Year of Our Lord twenty twenty one dying at Tyler

516
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: Perry at the Reali's MVPs, ah Leslie says, hell, yes,

517
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: I watched it. I tweeted too much about it and

518
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: loved that family more than my own drama in all. Yeah, man,

519
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: I think I'm just and it's probably just not growing

520
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: up understanding any of that stuff or following any of

521
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: that stuff with the Royal family.

522
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: I guess it's easier for me to just believe Megan

523
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 2: when she's like, I didn't know this shit was just fucked.

524
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 3: Up right right, And I guess from my perspective it's

525
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 3: he chose to marry her, but also it's their responsibility

526
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 3: to teach her too, you know, and train her too,

527
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 3: because the way she sound was like she walked in

528
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 3: there and they was like, bitch, figure out on your own,

529
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 3: and you know you're not from here, so fuck you.

530
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 3: Basically that's basically what it is. And everybody sounds like

531
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 3: they're finding their content with that, right.

532
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: So.

533
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see what's going on with that.

534
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: But because I'm sure that Soga is not over, because

535
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: I've already seen the royal family, you know, walking around

536
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: with black people in the background, and all the leaks

537
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: protecting the family and the press, the you know they

538
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: why would they have a black choir if they was racist?

539
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: They had a black choir at this at the wedding,

540
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: you know, they because you know, racist people have never

541
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: heard black people sing, you know, so, And I get like,

542
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure if you grew up over there and you

543
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: big into that fan and shit, or it's just been

544
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: you know, indoctrinated into you all the songs, all the

545
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: this shot this shit, I'm sure it seems it might

546
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,959
Speaker 1: be somewhat dismissive in offensive what I'm saying. But at

547
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: the same time, man like and like, what the fucking

548
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: you know, Like I can either lie to you and

549
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: tell you, oh, it's all good, or be like this

550
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: ship seemed kind of fucked up, and I'm not. And

551
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: it's not just a because it ain't my country thing.

552
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: I feel the same way about the fucking Pledge of Allegiance,

553
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: fucking you know, the fucking National anthem here you gotta

554
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: stand for that shit. All this pomping circumstance shit, it

555
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: just ain't to me.

556
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: It just ain't that.

557
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: I don't have any reverence for that shit, and it

558
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: seemed like bullshit to me. And I don't think people

559
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: should be copping pleased for these motherfuckers to be racist

560
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: just because you know, like, well she didn't understand, okay, cool,

561
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: But then they also seem to be fucking racist.

562
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like both can happen. Yeah, they could be racist,

563
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,719
Speaker 3: like racism attached to it and non racism shit attached

564
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 3: to it. But I have the right to say some

565
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 3: shit is racist. I'm not dismissing the racism because it

566
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 3: all wasn't racist.

567
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: I think also there's an understanding that Harry was kind

568
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: of the rebel of the family and that this might

569
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: they might they're looking at just like this is just

570
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: more his rebellious shit, and he gonna come back to

571
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: the he'll be he'll come back to the crown and

572
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: eventually and all this shit, it's just like a phase.

573
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: So I don't know, we'll find out.

574
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: We had episode twenty two eighty nine, Women Belong in

575
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: the Kitchen, Heroja Shop says. This is why e Arby's.

576
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: You never have to worry about the place where the

577
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: meats are at doing something like this on social media

578
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: or in person.

579
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, because no one's in the kitchen at Arby's. There's

580
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: no reason.

581
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: Let's stay in the kitchen whipping up some baking, SODA's,

582
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: some drugs. It's really no causon to be in there.

583
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: What people gonna order food? I don't think so, Mdr

584
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: says Man. That Burger King tweet was just not smart.

585
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: But I can't wait for that June Team celebration tweet.

586
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: In the US, it's about to be like blacks belong

587
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: in the fields, and right now we have a lack

588
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: of black farmers in America. That's why we are maybe

589
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: some of our proceeds the black farmers to get more

590
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: Black Americans to become farmers.

591
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 3: Right, That's how that's gonna go.

592
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: Oh Man coming soon from KFC, cotton pick and Chicken. Okay, Eve,

593
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: He says. Pierce Morgan has been a shit staying.

594
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 2: On society for years. I lived when that brother went

595
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: in on him.

596
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: I honestly think he's secretly in love with Meghan, and

597
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: he was also mad he didn't get an invite to

598
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: the wedding.

599
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: He's very transparent.

600
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: Also, Arby's would never say women belong in the kitchen

601
00:31:52,800 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: because they support all women getting the meats. Yeah, Harvey

602
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,479
Speaker 1: doesn't really tweet a lot of sassy things because you know,

603
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: they don't want the FBI looking into their finances. Swaveyp

604
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: says on the latest episode of Up Jumps to Racist First,

605
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: Piers Morgan storms off his show for receiving just a

606
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: tiny dose of what he's been dishing to Megan Marko

607
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: over the past two years. Now, another beloved Bridge, Sharon

608
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: Ozzy Osbourne, had decided to throw a full blown her

609
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: white tantrum on live TV because her black co host

610
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: questioned her for standing by her good old friend Pierce

611
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: and his decision to constantly harass the former Duchess. It's

612
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: a touchy subject, this racismism is, and it appears that's

613
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: struck to supposedly non exist, that racist bone that every

614
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: racist person claims they don't have in their entire body.

615
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: It's funny how that always work, isn't it. I believe me,

616
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: isn't it. Yeah, it's kind of It's kind of interesting.

617
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: I guess I should save it for tomorrow. But I

618
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: saw the Sharon Osbourne clip and yeah, man, like that's

619
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: that white fragility and she just weaponized her white woman

620
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: this against this black woman who was at work. You know,

621
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 1: have you already seen it or no? Okay, all right,

622
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: we'll do I don't guess we'll do it now, No problem,

623
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: let me see if I can pull it up. But yeah,

624
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: that's what it reminded me of, was like, yeah, this

625
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: is just this is a how white women operate, and

626
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: they use that fragility to to try to be like

627
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: I'm the real victim here, you know. And and this

628
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: shit is sad and played out and everybody's fucking tired

629
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: of it. And you know, I don't feel sorry about

630
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: Sharon Osborne getting her coat pulled or whatever.

631
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: And honestly, I hope more shit happens to her.

632
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: I think she got off light so far. Man, I'm

633
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: trying to see the original video. Well, okay, first she

634
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: it Piers Morgan. I'm with you. I stand by you.

635
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: People forget that you're paid for your opinion and that

636
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: you're just speaking your truth.

637
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: So right there, she fucked up.

638
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: Then she went on the she went on the not

639
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: the talk. I don't think. I forget what it's called.

640
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 1: What is it? The talk?

641
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 3: Yes?

642
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 1: The talk?

643
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the one of the main one is the view, right, yes?

644
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: So uh?

645
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 2: Yes. She went on the on the talk and she

646
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 2: had an interview with.

647
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: Cheryl Underwood who apparently they are friends. Why did that

648
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: not work? Hold on Cheryl? So she went she went

649
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: on the talk her and Cheryl Underwood are friends, and

650
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: she got asked you know uh about it? And ends up.

651
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 2: Okay, go to YouTube.

652
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, ends up volding on Cheryl like treat Cheryl like

653
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 1: she's the fucking.

654
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: Enemy for asking this question.

655
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 3: So will y'all really be like that?

656
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 6: I really would like to know, because I've been knowing

657
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 6: you for years, so I've been here and I've never

658
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 6: seen anything come out of you other than if I

659
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 6: don't know, I'm willing to learn if it comes off

660
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 6: a certain way, I stand corrected. That's the only thing

661
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 6: I've seen. So what would you say to people who

662
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 6: may feel that you.

663
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 3: While you're standing by.

664
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 6: Your friend, it appears that you give validation or safe

665
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 6: haven to something that he has uttered that.

666
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: What's going on? This dog and the thing? Why is

667
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: a dog on the screen with them?

668
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: Elvis is it a German shepherd is a racist dog.

669
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 2: She's gonna stick it on Cheryl Most. He was a

670
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: hero of the most.

671
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 3: Oh, I said, trading my bad.

672
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 6: Well, it appears that you give validation or safe haven

673
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 6: to something that he has uttered that is racist, even

674
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 6: if you don't agree.

675
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: Am I saying.

676
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 4: See, I don't know what he's uttered that's racist?

677
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 3: I'm not.

678
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to slide out of this one. I

679
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 4: don't know. Tell me what has he uttered that's racist?

680
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 3: Wednesday's episode of The Talk got it?

681
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, this one.

682
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 3: Not playing a straight view, Cheryl, take a look. I am.

683
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 4: I feel even like I'm about to be put in

684
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 4: the electric chair because I have a friend who many

685
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 4: people think is a racist. So that makes me a racist.

686
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 4: And for me, at sixty eight years of age to

687
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 4: have to turn around and say I am racist? What's

688
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 4: he got to do with me? How can I be

689
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 4: racist about anybody?

690
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: How can I know she cursed or something I don't know.

691
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 4: Be racist about anybody or anything in my life? How

692
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 4: can I?

693
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 6: Well, well, watched will be right, we have more topics.

694
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 4: So don't go away.

695
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 1: Coming with attitude, trying to cut the commercial and she's

696
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: all right and you can sell that's what like, she

697
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: introduced her as her friend and that well walked, well walked, Yeah,

698
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: very defensive, well watched.

699
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 6: And will be right more topics, so don't go away.

700
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 3: And also she's finally responding to a lot of people

701
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 3: that's about to be hitting up on social media too.

702
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I wouldn't be surprised she did say that.

703
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 2: Ship on.

704
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: So they try to cut to commercial, but as you

705
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: here's that cutting garcery. She doesn't stop talking and they

706
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: have to blank out again because I think she cuts again.

707
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: We should stop this.

708
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, lost gang.

709
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: So they're back from commercial now and she's she's now

710
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: interrogating Cheryl.

711
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 4: Right, Cheryl, I've been asking you during the break. I

712
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 4: am asking you again. I don't try and cry because

713
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 4: if anyone should be crying, it should be me.

714
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 3: What match?

715
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: And she's got she's got a tissue in her hand,

716
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: so you could tell they gave her a tissue during

717
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: the break. You know, she's the real victim here. And

718
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: now she's telling Cheryl she can't even cry.

719
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 3: I'm asking you again, yeah, because she's already prepared for

720
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 3: you gonna act like you're the victim because you're black

721
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 3: and I'm white, and me she already knows. She probably

722
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 3: wrote for antagonized to her, she already knows it's gonna

723
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 3: view bad and look bad in the first place. And

724
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 3: she was like, you don't have the right to cry.

725
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 3: I do because you came and be first.

726
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: I don't even think she thought that far out care Okay,

727
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: I don't even think it's that calculated.

728
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 2: I think she believes this shit.

729
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:53,959
Speaker 3: She does.

730
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: Like she's not just like, oh, it's gonna look bad.

731
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm the victim. You're the one that's looking bad.

732
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: I'm looking good because I'm defending myself against you bullying

733
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: me right now. Like, that's how fucking delusional racism and

734
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 1: white supremacy is.

735
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 2: And it's fragility, if we're being honest.

736
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: This is coming from a place of she put herself

737
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: on the chopping block by defending Pieris Morgan.

738
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 3: Which is something nobody asked her to do, right, And.

739
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: So she woke up out of bed, hopped, ready to

740
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: be on this show, ready to fight about it.

741
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 3: Yeah she did. Yeah, she was ready to fight.

742
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 7: Ye.

743
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 3: Attitude changed, Yeah, you could tell she was.

744
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm gonna fucking go at anybody that even

745
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: suggests that anything I'm doing could be viewed as racist

746
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: or defending a racist or whatever, you know, so you

747
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: could tell she came with that and demanding some specific

748
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: evidence of Piers Morgan's racism.

749
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: It's stupid because it say's nothing that she's gonna bring

750
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 3: that you're gonna validate. So why are we having this conversation.

751
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 2: That's number one? Number two?

752
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 1: You know, Cheryl ain't got no funck And like, here's

753
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: a list of the top five racist moments from Pierce Morgan.

754
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: Like Piers Morgan has tweeted and said super racist shit.

755
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: He's targeted so many people with his opinions that are

756
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: like I'm coming at Beyonce over race, and then he'll

757
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: get roasted on Twitter and then people you know, and

758
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: then and then and then, uh, move to the next

759
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: topic because no one's going to hold him accountable, and

760
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: he gets.

761
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: To say it's just my opinion.

762
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: Hey, uh, it's not racism that I'm continually attacking these

763
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: black women.

764
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: It's just my opinion.

765
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 4: Don't try and cry, because if anyone should be crying,

766
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 4: it should be me. This is the situation, you tell.

767
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: Me, way, Cheryl's facing that moment when she was told

768
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: not to cry is like one of shock and disappointment

769
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: and oh yeah, oh.

770
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, bitch, will I'll never talked to y'all ass again. Yeah.

771
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: Like, it's not even the rage that I think.

772
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 3: That comes disappointment in a friend.

773
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: And I'm so when you are hit with this in

774
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: your face, kind of off guard like this, when you

775
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 1: get the reaction you didn't expect from a person because

776
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: you didn't. She really lobbed a softball at her for

777
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: her to be able to say, yeah, let me distance

778
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: myself from Pierce a little bit and be like, well,

779
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't, you know, he's my friend, but you know

780
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: I don't defend everything he.

781
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: Said, right, And that's not something that I would say, right.

782
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: So she gave her a chance to do that, but

783
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: she chose to take it instead and go, you're calling

784
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: me a racist?

785
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 3: Yes. And also it was one of the softball questions

786
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 3: because by the time the segment ended, they expected to

787
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 3: move on to other topic.

788
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: Right.

789
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: It wasn't meant for this, right, right.

790
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 3: I can tell I was like, Oh, they didn't expect this.

791
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 3: They expected her just to say say a few sentences

792
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 3: and they go, okay, cool, girl, and everybody go on

793
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 3: to whatever the next topic was. Right there, she kept talking.

794
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 3: They had to move on.

795
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: There's so many ways to back out of this. There's

796
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: so many fucking ways to back out of this. Man,

797
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: you could just easily Oh man, I'm not even talking

798
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: about that, or you know, peers, peers, we hears me

799
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: says a while she he's a very he has a

800
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: lot of controversial opinions. He gets paid for his opinions.

801
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: I don't share all his opinions, but you know, he

802
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: is my friend. And yes, you're gonna take a little

803
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: bit of the slack of like you so you still friends,

804
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: but you don't have to like turn into a fuck

805
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 1: you cheryl.

806
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 3: Right. And also it's one of those things where she

807
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 3: could at least say, you know, everybody got friends, you don't.

808
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,439
Speaker 3: You don't know every opinion and everything your your friend

809
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 3: says all the time, so it's no way for me

810
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 3: to keep track of that. There's a lot of ways

811
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 3: you could have moved.

812
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm your friend.

813
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: I've seen some of the stuff y'all say on here, Like,

814
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: she could have did a whole lot of shit, but

815
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: she chose.

816
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 3: To change, and she picked up the pitchfork.

817
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: She turned told to turn this into shut your black

818
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 2: ass up.

819
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 3: Yes she didn't. How is how is that supposed to

820
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 3: be perceived?

821
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 4: Fry and it should be me? This is the situation.

822
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 4: You tell me where you have hugged him, say, educate me.

823
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 3: Tell me when you have.

824
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 4: Heard him say racist things. Educate me.

825
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 3: Tell me.

826
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 6: It is not the exact words of racism. It's the

827
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 6: implication and the reaction to it. To not want to

828
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 6: address that because she is a black woman, and to

829
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,479
Speaker 6: try to dismiss it or to make it seem less

830
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 6: than what it is, that's what makes it racist.

831
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 2: But but right now.

832
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 6: I'm talking to a woman who I believe is my friend,

833
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 6: and I don't want anybody here to to watch this

834
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 6: and say that we're attacking you for being racist and

835
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 6: that and for that if I articulated I think anything

836
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 6: but that, That is why I'm saying for me. I'm

837
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 6: saying for me for me.

838
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 3: I thought I.

839
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 6: Was asking a question about the perception for other people.

840
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 6: That's why prefaced it with I've never heard you utter

841
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 6: anything racist what I have.

842
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 3: But she did say that at the beginning of her statement.

843
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: Yep.

844
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 3: Because but she was ready to fight so it didn't

845
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 3: matter what she said.

846
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 1: This is why we can't teach black history in school

847
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: for people, because it's because we sent her white people's fragileness.

848
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: And I'm watching Cheryl have to do that on this air, Like,

849
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think Cheryl has the freedom to

850
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: approach this with the same to return vitriol with vitriol,

851
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: to return animosity with animosity, to be fragile as this

852
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: white woman has gotten, to be fragile in front of everybody,

853
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: to take this as a teachable moment that she can

854
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: put get in the notes happen and put on Twitter later.

855
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: She didn't have the freedom to do that.

856
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 3: And this is not a teachable moment on a fucking

857
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 3: TV show with minutes and time constraints. This is not

858
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 3: the time nor the place.

859
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean what I say teachable moment, I don't

860
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 1: mean this moment. I mean like, I'll get to it later.

861
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: But Cheryl Sharon Osborne is able to later put out

862
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: like a tweet about how she was she was wrong

863
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: for this, or she she's gonna learn from this, you

864
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. So so like this can't be

865
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: Cheryl's teachable moment. It turns into Sharon's teachable moment, right,

866
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: teach me, educate me. No, you don't want to do it,

867
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: fuck you? Then okay, I'm on Twitter later, Guys, I

868
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: should have you know, that was a moment. I learned

869
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: a lot since this afternoon.

870
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 3: You know you didn't, you know, right?

871
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: But and it's so it's it's like this white woman

872
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: gets to be the center of it all, all from

873
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: a fucking layup question.

874
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a simple ask question interview. When we

875
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 3: came back from commercial break. We should have been talking

876
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:42,959
Speaker 3: about some other shit, Like.

877
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 1: I won't sight any specific examples, but you know, we've

878
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: had guests on the show and ship where if somebody

879
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: was gonna be like, hey, this person says some wild shit, do.

880
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: You support this?

881
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: No, Like this nigga was on my show. Were not

882
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: best friends with the phone, like you know what I mean.

883
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 1: But even the fact that you tweeted to the fan

884
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: Piers Morgan already tells us what you really.

885
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 2: Be thinking about. You know, well, who you think is

886
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: the real victim and all this shit.

887
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 6: I have felt that Pierce was racist in his stance

888
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 6: against Megan Markle and the last time he was on

889
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 6: this show, I said as much. I said it when

890
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 6: he was on this show.

891
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 3: And what was his answer to you?

892
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 6: He didn't feel that he didn't feel that it was racist.

893
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 6: He didn't feel that the racial statements that he was

894
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 6: making were racist. But I was talking to him.

895
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 4: Okay, answer me this month. Okay, because I don't know.

896
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 4: I don't understand. If he doesn't like someone, and I

897
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 4: think this is for everybody who is a born white.

898
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 4: If he doesn't Pierce doesn't like someone and they happened

899
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 4: to be black, does that make him a racist?

900
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 3: No? No, that's a no no.

901
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 4: Right, So why can't it be he just doesn't like her?

902
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 4: Why does it have to be racist?

903
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 7: It's almost like, oh, I'm sorry, sure, It's almost like

904
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 7: yesterday when you were talking to says so it sounded

905
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 7: like he was really upset about He's what you were saying,

906
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 7: is a royalist like he is just so like deep

907
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 7: into you. He is honoring the crown and honoring And

908
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 7: do I agree with what he said?

909
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 4: No?

910
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 3: Like you?

911
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 7: No, I think he should have walked off set.

912
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 3: No.

913
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 7: Do I think he should have sat there and listened

914
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 7: to his other co hosts like we're doing right now

915
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 7: and having a conversation and learning from each other. I

916
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 7: think I think that's what evolution, corrective evolution is about.

917
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was what I ended it essentially, but

918
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: that's uh. Later she she put out a tweet after

919
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: some reflection, after sitting with your comments and sitting with

920
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: my heart, I would like to address the discussion on

921
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: the talk this past Wednesday. I have let's see this

922
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: past Wednesday, So she put this up Friday. Okay, she says,

923
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: I have always been embraced with much love and support

924
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 1: from the black community, and.

925
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 3: Somebody publishes got hold of her.

926
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: First of all, First of all, who is the Sharon

927
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: Osborne Hove in the black community?

928
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 3: That fan you showed me. I've been on black twity

929
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 3: for a hot man. I've never seen this club.

930
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: I think you have some black friends in Hollywood, and

931
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: by friends, I mean people that be a check to

932
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: talk to your ass. More than likely I would love

933
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: to hear from them if they really consider you part

934
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: of the community. But okay, there's so much love and

935
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: support from the black community, and I have deep respect

936
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: and love for the black community to any one of

937
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 1: color lower case B in casey'll want to be petty

938
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: to anyone of color that I offended, and or to

939
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: anyone that feels confused or let down by what I said,

940
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: I'm truly sorry. I pay felt blindsided, got defensive, and

941
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: allowed my fear and horror being accused of being racist

942
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: to take over. She was not being accused of being

943
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 1: racist by Cheryl.

944
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 3: The very first sting that came out of her mouth

945
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 3: was I've never heard this from you, okay, And she was.

946
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: Like, you gotta be racist, but I want you all

947
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: to hear what she said because I believe it. I panicked,

948
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: felt blindsided, got defensive, and allowed my fear and horror

949
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: of being accused of being racist takeover. That's the point,

950
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: the fear and horror of being accused. She wasn't accused,

951
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: even the mere idea that she could be accused. She

952
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: fucking lost her shit. Like this is like in this

953
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: thing where we allow white people to say being called

954
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: a racist, being accused of racism benefiting from white privilege

955
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: is the real racism.

956
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 2: I'm now the real victim.

957
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: So this bad shit happens to black people. Yeah, but

958
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: it's not as bad as if you would have called

959
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 1: me racist. We keep having racism with no racist in America. Righting,

960
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: somehow we have all this fucking violence and all these

961
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: systemic issues, and black people can't get wealth, We can't

962
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 1: get home, loss, can't get car longs, you can't go

963
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 1: to school, we don't make as much money.

964
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 2: We all this shit.

965
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: We're in prison at are much higher rate, all this shit,

966
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: we're over sentenced in those prisons, the overrepresenting the deafinitely,

967
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 1: all these things. And yet at the same time, no

968
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: one is racist.

969
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 3: Nobody, there ain't no one.

970
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 2: There's no racist bones in America.

971
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 3: You know.

972
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: It's the only racist people are the black people who

973
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: call white people racist.

974
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 2: Yes, everyone else is not racist.

975
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: Black people saying hey, I think this thing has something

976
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: to do with race. We're the real racist. And the

977
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: real horror and fear that count is whether or not

978
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: you get accused of being racist. The horror and fear

979
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: of Cheryl going on TV as a older, dark skinned

980
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: black woman every day at her motherfucking life with this

981
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 1: signal that goes out to America, which the same America

982
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: that voted for Trump.

983
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: In twenty sixteen. Her fear and horror don't count.

984
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 3: Why should have count?

985
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: The fear and hard that she experienced when her friends

986
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: start yelling at her own national TV and told her

987
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:28,720
Speaker 1: she better not cry.

988
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 2: That don't count this apology. Don't even mention Cheryl. By

989
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: the way, I'm a finish it in the second, but

990
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 2: I've already read it before.

991
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: It don't even mention Cheryl, So cheril don't matter.

992
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 3: She didn't like it does not matter. Yeah, And the

993
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 3: thing is, like I said, everybody's differently, but we wouldn't

994
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 3: be friends no more, like okay, check out.

995
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: I mean, what's funny is that black people have a

996
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: reaction to this that's visceral, partially because we have all

997
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: been betrayed by whiteness on this level before. Every black

998
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: person you know who has had any level of like

999
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 1: white camaraderie, friends, whatever, the fuck, has had a betrayal

1000
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 1: of this magnitude at least everyone. You know.

1001
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 2: If you're listening and you're not black, you're like, I

1002
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 2: can't believe that. That's crazy.

1003
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: If you're black, nod in your head, like yup, every

1004
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: last one of us, whether it was your homeboy that

1005
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: you found out voting for Trump or some you know,

1006
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: like just some shit where you just like, damn, this motherfucker,

1007
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: that's kind of racist. What you just said and you

1008
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: know me, so you shouldn't feel that way when you're

1009
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: one of the good ones, or you know you're not

1010
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: like the other. I mean, look just different to an opinion.

1011
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: You know that's every last one of us has had

1012
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: that moment when you went, this is not my friend anyway.

1013
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: There are very few things that hurt my heart more

1014
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: than racism, so to feel associated with that spunned me

1015
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: for fast. I'm not perfect. I'm still learning like the

1016
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: rest of us and will continue to listen and do better.

1017
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: Please hear me when I say I do not condone racism, misogyny,

1018
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 1: or bullying. I should have always I should have been

1019
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 1: more specific about that in my tweet. I will always

1020
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 1: use support a misogynistic racist bulliard. That's what your tweet was.

1021
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: I stand by you.

1022
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 2: I stay with you.

1023
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: Didn't nobody ask you to do that shit.

1024
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 3: You could have said absolute possibly nothing.

1025
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: And also like, what the fuck you staying with him

1026
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: on Twitter gonna do? That's half the reason you shouldn't

1027
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: even do it. All that shit is fake. Yes, you

1028
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Even when it's some shit I

1029
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: agree with, it's the easiest fucking thing to do it.

1030
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: Don't count it don't mean nothing. Hey man, I stay

1031
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 1: with you. Okay, cool, well I'm checking. Let me look around.

1032
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: Still standing by myself in real life. But yes, I

1033
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: went viral. Thank you. I should have been more said

1034
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 1: about that my tweet. I will always support freedom of speech,

1035
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: but now I see how unintentionally.

1036
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 2: He didn't make that clear decision.

1037
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: I hope we can collectively continue to learn from each

1038
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: other and for ourselves so we can all continue to

1039
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: pay the way for much needed growth and change. The

1040
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 1: community on this platform means a to me. I hope

1041
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: we can all hold each other up with accountability, compassion,

1042
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: that loved and this powerful time of paving away for

1043
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: so much needed change.

1044
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: Heart emoji sharing.

1045
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't buy any of that. Not one time

1046
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 3: did you apologize for your actions and your words on

1047
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 3: the show. This was all about your tweet, not actually

1048
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 3: what you said on the motherfucking show.

1049
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: Apologize to Cheryl.

1050
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 3: Yes, come back on the air and apologize. Apologize. If

1051
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 3: that's your friend, I'm not trying to me fun like

1052
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 3: if that's your friend, like like like Carol claim did

1053
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,240
Speaker 3: y'all was If that's your friend, you know you should

1054
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,240
Speaker 3: have been more understanding to her coming at you versus

1055
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 3: putting up your fist and you're fighting. Because this happens

1056
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 3: to a lot of people. Somebody asks a question and

1057
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 3: instead of them responding to the question at hand and

1058
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 3: what the person is asking, they're responding to these people

1059
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 3: that are not in the room. And that's what she did.

1060
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 3: She responding to the people on social media. These people

1061
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 3: aren't in the room. People aren't there, and so that's

1062
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 3: why you got this overreaction. And this happens a lot.

1063
00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 2: That's a great observation.

1064
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: Yet you she went in there because she been reading

1065
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: her Twitter mentions and was like, I'm about to stunt

1066
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 1: on these motherflayer.

1067
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 3: It's not those people. She has to be your friend.

1068
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 3: So so this should have been something lighthearted and y'all

1069
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 3: should have moved on to the next segment.

1070
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 2: And she was basically on some bit shut up, don't

1071
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 2: bring it up.

1072
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 1: If you bring this up on an cuts your ass

1073
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: out essentially, And yeah, man, I'm disgusted about sharing Osborne's behavior.

1074
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: And it's just a long it's just another link in

1075
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: the chain of white women using their fragility to overshadow

1076
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: the ship that they do because because like you co

1077
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: signed this guy who's a bully, a bigot, a misogynist,

1078
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: a troll online.

1079
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 2: You co signed him, right, that's number one.

1080
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: Then after you finished co signing his ass, when you

1081
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 1: get asked about it, you attack a black woman and

1082
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: then in the in the aftermath of all that shit,

1083
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: you go, well, I learned, Okay, we all realize, Okay,

1084
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: I'm perfect.

1085
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 2: Whoops, my bad?

1086
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: You know I actually, now that I think about it,

1087
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: I don't stand with Piers Morgan at like I said,

1088
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 1: and we can all move on, right Why? Because you

1089
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 1: got the cry. We got to move on because you

1090
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: because you you did all the same shit Piers Morgan does,

1091
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: but you did it with tears in your eyes, So

1092
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,720
Speaker 1: we got to move on. Because you're an old white lady,

1093
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: we're supposed to just be like, oh, it's cool now,

1094
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 1: fuck you.

1095
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1096
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 3: Also, it's one of those things to where you're not

1097
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 3: sorry because you can do whatever you want emotionally. But

1098
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 3: you sat there in her in trail space and told

1099
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,399
Speaker 3: her to control her emotions, like emotions is a bad thing.

1100
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 3: When you literally weaponize your emotions against her and then

1101
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 3: told her not to respond to your emotions, there's something

1102
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 3: wrong with that. It's like I can do whatever I

1103
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 3: want to, But basically, black bench, don't you call out

1104
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 3: no slavery. Don't you tell me I'm wrong, because I

1105
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 3: feel like I am right about how I feel about

1106
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 3: this situation, and there's nothing you can say. And like

1107
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 3: I said, that bull down to her responding to people

1108
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 3: that are not in the room.

1109
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: And I'm sure people that don't understand what it's like

1110
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: for us will find it hyperbolic. But this shouldn't round

1111
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: me of fucking slavery. That's how that shit feels to me,

1112
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: like the mistresses in the house who control and dominate

1113
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: black women's bodies to the point where they won't even

1114
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: let you have or express pain, not if it supersedes mine. Right,

1115
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: I am being the victim now it is not your turn.

1116
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: I'll let you know when it's okay. And the fact

1117
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: that she got to go do that on national TV,

1118
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: and essentially everyone on that panel gave her the room.

1119
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: They gave her so much grace that she did not

1120
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: fucking earn or deserve, and they sat up there and

1121
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: they let that shit fucking go. Like you know, and

1122
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I don't want Cheryl to get fired

1123
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: or do nothing to this woman. But the fact that

1124
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: that can happen and it's just on to the next segment,

1125
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: or we'll do a tomorrow's show coming up, we're gonna

1126
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: have Keeper Sullivan like that. That is crazy to me

1127
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: that we're still dealing with this in twenty twenty one.

1128
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's just Trump with draws

1129
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: or what, but these white people are wild.

1130
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. And also I think for me that goes to

1131
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 3: show you and maybe this is a little too deep,

1132
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 3: but that goes to show you have fake and phony

1133
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 3: a lot of these the view to talk to you

1134
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 3: and all this shit is because y'all not really trying

1135
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 3: to talk about these these topics. Because a lot of times,

1136
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,439
Speaker 3: you know who that number one of people who watch

1137
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 3: these shows white women, white, A lot of white women majority.

1138
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 3: If you do the demographics, you know they've done. Unless

1139
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 3: the demographic has changed over the years. There's a lot

1140
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 3: of white women that actually watch these shows. So in

1141
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 3: their mind, this is what they come for, this is

1142
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 3: what they hear. And so for me, and maybe it's

1143
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 3: just me and like you say, maybe and I know

1144
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 3: it could be meet it's too sensitive. Even the way

1145
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 3: the segment end interviewed irritated me because basically the interview

1146
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 3: ended with, yes, can't we just cooon by y'all? Can't

1147
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 3: we just all get along?

1148
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: The white woman.

1149
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:15,479
Speaker 2: The white woman came to the rescue of sharing because

1150
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 2: she was like.

1151
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because he could just be a royalist. And

1152
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's the fucking royalist then? If not a

1153
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: defender of these biggoted ass white people and the people

1154
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: that y'all call bigger than yourself, the people that you

1155
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: would saying colonial list yourself, the people that you say

1156
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: are racist yourself? What what? What are? What is this? Then?

1157
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: If he's defending that, then what is he defending? You know?

1158
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: So it's it's that kind of it's that kind of

1159
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: it's that kind of fucking three card manti with racism

1160
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: that's just so fucked up because it's like.

1161
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm over here, now, what's your car? What's your car?

1162
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: And it's like it's right there in my face.

1163
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 2: You're playing in my face.

1164
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: And like I said that, the burden of proving racism

1165
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: is gonna fall on Sheryl, and I get that when

1166
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: we bring up an accusation like that.

1167
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 2: That's a pretty uh serious charge.

1168
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: And this is what I was saying, I believe we

1169
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: talked about not just like the N word in the classroom.

1170
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: We talked about a few topics like this, and oh,

1171
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: I know what it was.

1172
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:18,919
Speaker 2: On the pregame, We've been.

1173
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: Talking about reply all and bon Appetite and all this shit.

1174
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 2: And I was like, Yeah, this is the thing that sucks.

1175
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: Racism is very rarely this motherfucking burnings Mississippi burning racism. Right,

1176
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: it's just not that like, and we provide so much

1177
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: leeway for white people as long as it's not as

1178
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: long as you do not walk into the room and

1179
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: start enslaving people and calling them the N word.

1180
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 2: People always got some kind of reason that it's not racism.

1181
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: Correct. Meanwhile, if I can take a micro, look at

1182
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: a macro, look at everything and say, okay, because people

1183
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: always corustrate on micro aggressions, I always say that you

1184
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: know these microaggressions and it's just hard to pin down

1185
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: to some microaggressions.

1186
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, but.

1187
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: Let's not forget. We still got macro, right, so let's

1188
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: pull let's take a wide view and pull out and

1189
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: look at reply or look at Gimblet or look at uh,

1190
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: you know, Bonni Appetite or wherever the fuck you're looking

1191
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: at that, You're like, man, all these people just mad

1192
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: about these minor microaggressions.

1193
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 2: What does the payroll look like? What does the leadership

1194
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 2: look like?

1195
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: What the boardroom look like? I would like to know

1196
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: what the stock holders look like, because now we're talking

1197
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: about Macro, right now, we're talking about that wide lens,

1198
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: that big view. If it's still fucked up there, how

1199
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: do you think it got like that from all the

1200
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: thousand cuts of racism, all the little shit, all the

1201
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: all the little I can't prove that my article didn't

1202
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: get U didn't get the same promotion as this white

1203
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: person because it was because I'm black.

1204
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 2: They say it's just not as good.

1205
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 1: But it's funny how none of the black people's shit

1206
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 1: is as good. Ever, you know, it's funny how that works.

1207
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: You know. It's that kind of thing. It's the people

1208
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: saying and I think people just fed up. It's the

1209
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: people going, hey, I don't think you should get to

1210
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: say the N word in the class. No, I can't

1211
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: prove every time you say it there's racist, But why

1212
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 1: do I have to be able to prove that to

1213
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: say that, hey, in general, racism exists it's a right

1214
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: supremacist society. There's really no reason that we have to

1215
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 1: say this word in this classroom. Why can't we just

1216
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: err on the side of caution and not say it. Well,

1217
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: you gotta to prove that I'm saying it pejoratively to Spike,

1218
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 1: specifically you.

1219
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 2: And if you can't, then I get to continue doing

1220
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 2: it with impunity.

1221
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 1: And people are fucking tired of that shit.

1222
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 3: Yes they are.

1223
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: You know.

1224
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 2: I said that when I saw the Pierce Morgan shit.

1225
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 1: I was like, even when he walked out, I said,

1226
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: they're not gonna be able to prove he's racist.

1227
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 3: Because he's not stupid.

1228
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: How fucking stupid would he be to go on, you know,

1229
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: good Morning Britain and be like, I hate this black bitch.

1230
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 3: He's never gonna do that, of course not.

1231
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 1: But there's a level of animosity and a level of

1232
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: bias that you see on a daily basis that as

1233
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: a black person who inherently lives in this shit, you go,

1234
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 1: that's one of.

1235
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 2: Mother fucking races.

1236
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: I don't need to go down in his house and

1237
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: drink tea with him to know, you know, I don't

1238
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 1: know how to tell you this, Like I don't need

1239
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: him to fucking get caught, you know, burning across right.

1240
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: I don't trust that man, and I see him every day,

1241
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: and y'all just cool with it because he doesn't officially

1242
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: cross that line.

1243
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 3: Yes, he doesn't offend you. So since he doesn't defend

1244
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 3: you and nothing he does is offensive, Fox.

1245
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: News is able to be on TV every day. One

1246
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 1: American News is able to be on TV every day.

1247
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: Donald Trump was able to ride birther Rism all the

1248
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: way to the White House.

1249
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we but at no point.

1250
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: Can you just say specifically this is racism at no

1251
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 1: point because they're not stupid enough to just do that.

1252
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: We know it's racist because we fucking know. We have

1253
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: to know that to survive. Yes, so that's you know,

1254
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: that's that's the that's the rub of all this shit.

1255
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, obviously fuck her. Uh, let's see next week's episode.

1256
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 1: We'll cover the racist announcer Oklahoma that was caught on

1257
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 1: Hot Mike calling the girls basketball team the N word

1258
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 1: for simply kneeling during the national anthem.

1259
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 2: You'll never guess what he blamed is racist behavior.

1260
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: Back to you riding, Karen, Yeah, I guess I'll save

1261
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 1: that one for tomorrow. Since we did just do a

1262
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 1: long ass thing about Sharon Osbourne. Okay, your cars for

1263
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 1: all these people, Yes, you know what, No, fuck it,

1264
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: let's do him now.

1265
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and do him now.

1266
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 3: I mean, we ain't got enough a time on the hands.

1267
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 1: High school basketball announce her got caught on fucking tape

1268
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 1: in four k oh shit, but he got caught on

1269
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 1: tape because he had a hot mic and they were

1270
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 1: doing the announced, they were doing the the what did

1271
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: they call it? This is how fucked the national anthem? Yes,

1272
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: I was gonna say plage legias, y'all.

1273
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 2: Y'all know I did not give a fuck. That's one

1274
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 2: of the things that's so funny is.

1275
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 1: That so many people are attached to it, and I

1276
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: know that this makes me the weird though it's fine

1277
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: and you're black. I'm not telling you not to feel

1278
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 1: the way you feel. So many people get attached to

1279
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 1: like where they were born, which is such a random

1280
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: fucking coincidence, Like you were a sperm that hit the

1281
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 1: egg and the people that popped you out popped you

1282
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: out of place. There's no fucking that's all chaos shit,

1283
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 1: that's no logic to that shit.

1284
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 2: Anyway.

1285
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 1: People get so protective of it and to which I mean,

1286
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 1: if it's good for you, good, But I'm not.

1287
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 2: Protecting those shit that's been whacked.

1288
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 1: To me and my people. So I don't feel the

1289
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 1: need to be on Listen, man, it's the national anthem,

1290
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: you god damn standing, this is what we do.

1291
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 3: Like, I don't care, and I've never been patriotic like that.

1292
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 2: And like it'll never be offensive to me.

1293
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: A motherfucker burn a flag and I don't care it

1294
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: don't it's not offensive to me either. That has nothing

1295
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: to do with me.

1296
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 2: I didn't help this ship, do any of the ship

1297
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 2: that people are mad at it for.

1298
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 1: Anyway, Let's get to uh, let's get to the motherfucking

1299
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I get nationalistic during the World Cup.

1300
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: There you go, fun shit.

1301
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the only time it's come.

1302
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, team USA playing basketball and the Olympics.

1303
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:38,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's normally for soccer the women.

1304
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't even root for us in Wars. I

1305
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 1: don't care, you know what I mean, It.

1306
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 2: Just ain't even It's just like I hope that the

1307
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 2: people that go out there.

1308
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: Don't get killed.

1309
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 2: But I'm not sitting around.

1310
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, we did it.

1311
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 2: Buddy, we we showed Vietnam.

1312
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, you ain't gonna get that out of me.

1313
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 1: I don't get nothing and I don't get nothing in

1314
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: the mail for that ship when it happens, So all right, anyway,

1315
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 1: this is a This is the comments that this dude

1316
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: was making.

1317
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 2: During the national anthem.

1318
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: We will be right back your live after the national anthem,

1319
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. As you can see, the girls on

1320
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 1: the left took the knee as soon as it started. Okay,

1321
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 1: what I find funny is they said we'll be right back,

1322
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 1: which sounds like they cut away from the game for

1323
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,919
Speaker 1: maybe to show commercial. So this is just like, why

1324
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 1: even be mad about this? Nobody saw this. It's only

1325
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 1: if the announcers bring it up. Will people know right

1326
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 1: when come back from commercial? Right?

1327
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 3: Because nowadays they try to cut away from this.

1328
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And how much reference do you have for

1329
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: it if your broadcast is cutting away from it.

1330
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 3: That and people even snacks and they paying to a teacher.

1331
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,439
Speaker 3: I hope people realize this sweep into enough Horney's gaze

1332
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 3: and know a lot of people don't give a fuck

1333
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 3: about this.

1334
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: They're kneeling fucking niggers, is what he said.

1335
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 3: The other dude said, are you serious?

1336
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 1: He said them they lose.

1337
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 2: First of all, are you talking during the national anthem?

1338
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 1: Sir?

1339
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 3: Yeah? Most mostly they don't even respect it. They, like

1340
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,599
Speaker 3: I said, people just be doing this because of white

1341
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 3: suprem see the average. Like I said, We've been to

1342
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 3: enough sport events to know that people walk around, they

1343
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 3: don't pay attention. They on their phone, like a lot

1344
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 3: of people don't give a.

1345
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 1: Fuck niggas Again, and someone said, oops, the mice is on.

1346
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 1: You can hear it right there. Someone, you know your

1347
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: Microsoft got got kind of quiet? Isn't it quite?

1348
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 3: Real? Quiet? Real quick?

1349
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're still live. Yeah, the mic was off? What

1350
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 2: was going on? The mic was on?

1351
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they heard it all. It's somebody got.

1352
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:55,879
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm. The sound changed, isn't.

1353
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 2: It didn't it? It's all tune changed. But that's not

1354
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 2: all then, But wait, it gets worse.

1355
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 3: That's that's not all.

1356
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 1: Turns out he's forty four year old Matt Rowan. He

1357
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 1: is the football coach at the team at the at

1358
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:19,679
Speaker 1: the school. Shure, no black people on that, No fucking

1359
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 1: niggers hopefully, no, hope. Not all right, Uh, that's not

1360
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: even the worse part.

1361
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 2: What it gets worse. He admitted that it was him.

1362
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:30,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, had no choice.

1363
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,600
Speaker 1: But he said, I will say. I will state that

1364
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 1: I suffer Type one diabetes and during the game, my.

1365
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:37,799
Speaker 2: Sugar was spiking.

1366
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 1: While not excusing my remarks, it is not unusual with

1367
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 1: my sugar spikes that I become disoriented and I have

1368
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: to say things that are not appropriate as well as hurtful.

1369
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 3: That's not true.

1370
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: I do not believe that I would have made such

1371
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 1: horrible statements absent my sugar spiking.

1372
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 3: Oh so we blame this on the sugar. Sugar is racist.

1373
01:10:59,160 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 3: Sugar mactually race.

1374
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,680
Speaker 1: And this is why the fuck I say, sugar and

1375
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 1: grits is the fucking devil because this man has blamed

1376
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: his diabetes and sugar spiking on racism.

1377
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,719
Speaker 2: You say what I'm saying, you what kind of grits?

1378
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 1: You think he eating sugar? Grits? For sure? Because how

1379
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 1: is he spiking sugar in the middle of the fucking game,

1380
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 1: making him be racist? And this is the heaven shit.

1381
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 1: Y'all kind of right into my show and defend every

1382
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 1: week disgusting y'all.

1383
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:31,600
Speaker 2: Wonder why y'all discussed.

1384
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 1: Me, y'all wonder why I can't even take it easy.

1385
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 1: And no, don't you cry, sugar grits eaters.

1386
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 2: No, I'm crying right now.

1387
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 1: Okay, y'all attacked me and I'm just freeing my name. Okay,

1388
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 1: but nah, it's it's pretty ridiculous. Yes it is, Niggas

1389
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 1: said diabetes. I think white people are having Trump with jaws,

1390
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,759
Speaker 1: and I think I think this is how they're.

1391
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 2: Acted up right.

1392
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 3: They can't say the shit that they said before.

1393
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 1: And they used to slide like they used to could

1394
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 1: just retweet Trump saying it right, and now they got

1395
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 1: to say it themselves. And they can't just go back

1396
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 1: to being quiet and holding it inside.

1397
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 3: Right. They can't get the same immunity that him. They can't.

1398
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 3: They can't, you know, shake that shit off. And because

1399
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 3: don't nothing stick to him? He tought on. But y'all,

1400
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 3: y'all got consequences to y'all shit.

1401
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 1: He's been pulled from the rest of the of the

1402
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 1: games as a broadcast crew. Uh, while they while they

1403
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:26,839
Speaker 1: investigate the incident.

1404
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 3: Nigga's on tape, what would then were investigating? And if

1405
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want him coaching me in if I was

1406
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 3: on the football team.

1407
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 1: Investigation is the new indefinitely right, that's the new like

1408
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 1: holding pattern, like we don't let's see if this blowover.

1409
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 1: We are let's see if it blow investigating the man

1410
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 1: who said he did it and was caught on camera

1411
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 1: saying it twice, and definitely.

1412
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 3: We're going to wait, I'm off and if they're still mad,

1413
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 3: you gotta go. But if they move on to the

1414
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 3: next thing, like we think they'll do, we'll slide you

1415
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 3: back in.

1416
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 1: What's the rest of the investigation gonna be, Let's check

1417
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 1: every other time it's sugar spiked and see if we

1418
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: can find a trail any other games where he just

1419
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 1: lost his ship for no reason. Was nobody else kneeling, like,

1420
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 1: because if he if it's sugar spiking, he should have

1421
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 1: other moments of the game where he flipped the fuck out.

1422
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: But it's nobody kneeling obviously, everybody that kneel it the anything,

1423
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:17,600
Speaker 1: So he should just have somewhere he.

1424
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 2: Just lose his shit on people for no reason.

1425
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:24,719
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, we're playing against uh, we're playing against people.

1426
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 2: It's not even no black people.

1427
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 1: It's just two white schools playing each other, and these

1428
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 1: fucking niggers are oh sorry, had a little bit too

1429
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 1: much orange juice.

1430
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 3: I wonder when they're going through the scale, does it

1431
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 3: be like, Okay, your sugar drop, this happened, This happened.

1432
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 3: I wonder where's the racism level in in the level

1433
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 3: of your sugar dropping?

1434
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 1: He was like, oh shit, it was at three hundred.

1435
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna have to call out of work today.

1436
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:51,759
Speaker 1: I'm having a diabetic episode, y'all.

1437
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 3: What fifty? I think that's a little bit too low.

1438
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 3: Who I hit the racism level?

1439
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 1: Shout out to all the real diabetics out there that

1440
01:13:58,760 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 1: don't be racist.

1441
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 3: Come on, y'all really been apparently.

1442
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 2: Y'all, we should have been thanking you the whole fucking time. Y'all.

1443
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's been able to manage this.

1444
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 2: Shit without just being racist. I don't know how you

1445
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 2: do it.

1446
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, you gotta keep an EpiPen and

1447
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 1: some insulin by side at all times, because apparently.

1448
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 3: Can't let that ship drop.

1449
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:22,679
Speaker 1: You'll, you're fucking one missed one, one misshot from fucking

1450
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 1: becoming hitler out this bitch. Come on, good grief, But yeah,

1451
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 1: that's what we're dealing with.

1452
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, he needs what he needs them h them new

1453
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:37,719
Speaker 3: Uh diabetes. Uh things they have now it's like a patch.

1454
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 3: So he ain't have his patch on that automatically kind

1455
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 3: of shoots it into your system, now.

1456
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:45,719
Speaker 2: Right, that's how he forgot it. That's how he learned

1457
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 2: he forgot his patch.

1458
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 1: He was at work and he just started calling people

1459
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: niggers indiscriminately, and he was like, oh shit, I think

1460
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 1: you know what. Let me check my sugar.

1461
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 2: Yep, right on the dot. Yeah, you know how we

1462
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 2: do he get.

1463
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:04,640
Speaker 1: A giggity yeah, yeah, that's my thing. You know.

1464
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 3: They call my wife. I told her to put my

1465
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 3: patch in my bag.

1466
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:13,759
Speaker 2: Oh, you're just encourageable. Here's an orange. Eat this orange

1467
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 2: real quick and we could get back on the air.

1468
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 2: Some motherfucker?

1469
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 3: Uh is it? Is it like?

1470
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 1: Uh?

1471
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:25,640
Speaker 3: What is it like? Like the candidate talk about you

1472
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 3: eat this? You ain't feeling like yourself sniggers.

1473
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what's gonna be next.

1474
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 3: Yes, hate this niggas. You're not yourself today.

1475
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:39,759
Speaker 1: Here you go, man, have some niggers, I mean sniggers. Sorry,

1476
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 1: I'm just not myself myself today. You're not yourself when

1477
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 1: you're hungry. Let me get these niggers. Two nigger bars.

1478
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 1: Nigger He called them niggas twice, fucking niggers, little girls,

1479
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 1: but high school girls. He called them fucking niggers. And honestly, man,

1480
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 1: that's what every white person who doesn't want people to

1481
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 1: kneel during the anthemis thinking.

1482
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 2: He just said the quiet part out loud.

1483
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 1: Every last one of these motherfuckers that got a problem

1484
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 1: with people kneeling is thinking the exact fucking same thing.

1485
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 2: He finally just broke down and said it.

1486
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 1: They've been saying it on Twitter behind fucking dog avatars

1487
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: all these years. He finally just got caught saying it

1488
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 1: in person. Yes, fucking niggas, that's what they think when

1489
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 1: they see Colin Kaepernick do it. He broke the cold

1490
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 1: you know, he broke the covenant between white sports watching

1491
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,639
Speaker 1: America and black sports playing America.

1492
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, because before then they claimed him and get mad

1493
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:39,639
Speaker 3: at us for trying to claim them.

1494
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 1: Right, Trey Wright saying, hey, Rod and Karen, thank you

1495
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 1: to the universe for us finally getting Piers Morgan out

1496
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 1: the paint. And be careful.

1497
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 2: I don't think he's done yet.

1498
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 3: People like that don't go the well, I'm not network

1499
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 3: or something.

1500
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 1: He'll be back not dancing on this man's grave, yet

1501
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 1: his removal was long overdue, and it still irks me

1502
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 1: that Britain had him on Good Morning Britain. You would

1503
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 1: think they would want someone who was like, I don't know,

1504
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 1: like actually Sincere Houston. Yeah, that's the day into that.

1505
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 3: But that's also not good TV.

1506
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I guess I think also.

1507
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 1: Like h Like, I'll talk of those people this morning,

1508
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:24,959
Speaker 1: and it just they just seem like because their racism,

1509
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:26,599
Speaker 1: you know, as deadly.

1510
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 2: I guess they have learned to live with it in

1511
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 2: a way we don't.

1512
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 3: And yeah, in.

1513
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: A way that is not the third rail for them.

1514
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 1: They know he racists, and he do that job every

1515
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 1: morning and they're just.

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01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,560
Speaker 2: Like, hey, he's racist, he's a he's a royalist.

1517
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 1: You know. It's just like, oh, y'all can just write

1518
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 1: that off like that, because I can't.

1519
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 2: I can't.

1520
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 1: If they find out somebody racist like Sharon Osworn, I

1521
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 1: don't ever want to see her host and shit, Like

1522
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 1: if they said and coming back Monday, Sharon Osma, I'll

1523
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 1: be like, why the fuck are we doing this?

1524
01:17:57,720 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 3: Right?

1525
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 1: She racist? And she kind of said, well, she's I

1526
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 1: did a deep dive on his career history riding caring

1527
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 1: a surprise surprise, guess where he started out the British

1528
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 1: fucking tabloids y'all, phone hacking scandal and all that explains everything.

1529
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 2: Shaking my damn head, he really thought he had a

1530
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 2: shot with Meghan.

1531
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,719
Speaker 1: A bunch of laughter anyway, Thanks for another great, funny,

1532
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 1: informative episode, roder Carrer. Also, I just remember I wanted

1533
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 1: to add roder Carre has been a great hearing from

1534
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 1: the Black Britain's talking about racism their experience over there

1535
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 1: in the UK. Their respective is definitely one I wanted

1536
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 1: to hear more about. For all the differences of similarities

1537
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 1: we experience as black people worldwide, I bet if we

1538
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 1: all do the research and similarities outweighed differences. Thanks again, y'all.

1539
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 1: Tray Yeah, I mean yet definitely I agree that for

1540
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 1: marginalized people.

1541
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 2: But also.

1542
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 1: It is different.

1543
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:51,600
Speaker 2: It is different, man, like I said, and not in

1544
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 2: a good way.

1545
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 1: People were like, the racism now in America is the

1546
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:58,759
Speaker 1: fucking boss level. And I'm not saying that as a compliment.

1547
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 1: Should a Manda Gorman have to only hire have to

1548
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 1: hire only black women to translate a book in the

1549
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 1: other languages? Yes?

1550
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 3: Or no?

1551
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 1: Fourteen percent say yes, eighty six percent say no. Say says,

1552
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 1: I mean, I personally think it's fine to hire white women.

1553
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 1: Some of the nicest people I know are white. I do, however,

1554
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 1: think it becomes an issue for them, not me. Of course,

1555
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 1: when white women don't know when they're just diversity hires,

1556
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 1: they get too comfortable. Next thing, you know, you want

1557
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 1: to hire the whole family. They got to get it

1558
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:29,599
Speaker 1: through their heads. This is a job, not the local Starbucks. Susan,

1559
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 1: don't be leaving panteen pro v stains on the back

1560
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 1: of the chairs with that stringy hair, and we don't

1561
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 1: care about your straight cats.

1562
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 2: Damn tell them how you really feel.

1563
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 1: We'll get more to that Amanda Gorman thing because we

1564
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 1: had someone right in about it. Episode twenty two ninety

1565
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,559
Speaker 1: Darryl in the Doghouse that was our walking Dad recap

1566
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 1: Heroja Shop says, Roding Cairs.

1567
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 2: Storytime is back. Yeah, Evie E says, you know what.

1568
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 1: Would have made this episode pop if they would have

1569
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 1: brought back Henry, reanimated course and killed it again.

1570
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 2: Yep, oh oh, I.

1571
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 1: Was the actor that plays Henry gets a role as

1572
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:16,560
Speaker 1: the R spokesperson. You know who I would love to

1573
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 1: see that happen and then see what Eve's head explode.

1574
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 1: Trey says, Hey, Rod and Karen. The only reason I

1575
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 1: can think that they may have introduced that random new

1576
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 1: love interest for Daryl is possibly possibly for that spinoff

1577
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 1: series Caroly and Daryl are going to be on. But

1578
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 1: I agree, Rod, it didn't work or makes sense to

1579
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 1: introduce a new love interest for Daryl. It all just

1580
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 1: seemed a tad random and pointless. Drugs I forgot about

1581
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 1: that shit. So then it might be possible that Connie

1582
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 1: not on it, or maybe it's like a time thing

1583
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 1: where like this this happened a while ago and this

1584
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:53,679
Speaker 1: is the woman he was fucking with at the time.

1585
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. We'll see where they take it, but

1586
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 2: I don't like it.

1587
01:20:57,640 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 1: I don't like it.

1588
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 2: Uh the pole, Will Daryl, Leo and Connie have a

1589
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:02,799
Speaker 2: love triangle?

1590
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 1: Karen?

1591
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 2: No? Fifty six percent say no, forty four percent say yes.

1592
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 1: That is close as hell. John says, Hey, Rod and Karen,

1593
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 1: I want them to hurry up and get Virgil finding

1594
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 1: Connie and see if he's still crazy. Me too, Oh,

1595
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 1: useless ass. That'll be the first thing he did that

1596
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:31,759
Speaker 1: actually wasn't useless. Yeah, okay, I already play, already read

1597
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,839
Speaker 1: this rock to pus email to one where he remixed

1598
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 1: or not remix.

1599
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:37,959
Speaker 2: He changed white people.

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01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 1: News for us. Thank you for that.

1601
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 3: Thank you baby.

1602
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 2: Let's see tenniche right saying thank you.

1603
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:48,759
Speaker 1: Hey, Rod and Karen, thank you for the great podcast

1604
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 1: for keeping me company on my daily commute at times

1605
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:53,719
Speaker 1: at work. Your commentary on the news and pop culture

1606
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 1: is both informative and hilarious. As a long time listener,

1607
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 1: Rod solo movie review of the classical magical negrom Mster

1608
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 1: Church is by far the best movie review I've heard.

1609
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 1: Karen's genuine exuberance and often off topic comments and interjections

1610
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 1: are both charming and endearing.

1611
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 2: Y'all are the uncle and auntie.

1612
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 1: We all wish we had your comedic take on the

1613
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 1: Bernie cratz Co's plays Socialist White Nationalists, Maggot and rich

1614
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 1: Old White Man is always spot on. Speaking of rich

1615
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:22,639
Speaker 1: angry old white Man, I can't help but feel sorry

1616
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 1: for one d Chappelle, as you covered on the podcast

1617
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 1: a few weeks back his COVID nineteen contraction due to

1618
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 1: his recklessness and his boasting about his recovery. Conveniently, ignoring

1619
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 1: how his immense wealth facilitated this, and calling coustious people

1620
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,759
Speaker 1: cowards really says more about him and his state of mind.

1621
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 1: What makes it egregious is that David is a very

1622
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 1: intelligent man and knows better. I hypothesize that comedically, he

1623
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 1: probably feels that it's disingenuous to punch upwards. Well, he's

1624
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 1: one of the people, the top one percent, shout out

1625
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:52,759
Speaker 1: to Bernie. Hence he's about free speech and cancel culture

1626
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 1: while simultaneously enjoying the biggest platform in the world and

1627
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 1: getting away with blatant bigotry. I E Day's transsession and

1628
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 1: I'm house, So that's where to pay himself. The victim,

1629
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 1: Dave has transitioned from mocking trans folk to winding about

1630
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 1: the money he's supposedly owed. Well, he still sneaks in

1631
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 1: some knocking them trans people. He's not gonna drop that one, damn,

1632
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 1: and the tires stand up, winding about how Comedy Central

1633
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 1: did you dirty when it's common knowledge that you breached

1634
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 1: your contract and ran off to Africa? How is this

1635
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 1: comedy sucks to be him watching his own nineties and

1636
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:28,679
Speaker 1: early two thousands comedy Bess and realizing that he's become

1637
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 1: one of the rich, deluded people he joked about. Uh yeah, yeah,

1638
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I think a lot of that

1639
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 1: rings true with Dave and this is who he wants

1640
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 1: to be. I mean, I think he's one of those

1641
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 1: people that had such a resume. At this point, he'll

1642
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 1: be a comedy legend. No matter what the fuck he

1643
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 1: does from now on. There will always be people caping

1644
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 1: for him. It really doesn't matter what he says and does.

1645
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 1: You know, I've seen people that claim to be, you know,

1646
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 1: pro this and pro that, righteous about there's righteous about that,

1647
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:03,719
Speaker 1: but when it comes to do Chapelle man, they can't

1648
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 1: help themselves.

1649
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 2: It's like their love for that.

1650
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 1: Dude is more strong than anything he could ever do

1651
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:12,639
Speaker 1: on stage.

1652
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 3: You know.

1653
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's something he could do off stage, but

1654
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: anything he could ever do on stage that would make

1655
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,680
Speaker 1: them feel like, this is wrong, this is bad, he

1656
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:24,599
Speaker 1: shouldn't be doing this, and you know, and that's kind

1657
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 1: of the beauty of the stage of comedy is that

1658
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 1: you get the leeway to be terrible, a terrible person

1659
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 1: even and go. But I was joking, and some people

1660
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 1: live by that covenant and some don't. Dave appears to

1661
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 1: believe that everything's protected on that stage, and I think

1662
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 1: he's made his mission to push that velope in a

1663
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 1: way that to me just sounds like the things I

1664
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 1: don't like about a lot of comedians, especially as they

1665
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,640
Speaker 1: get older, is they trying to switch their voice to this,

1666
01:24:52,920 --> 01:25:01,680
Speaker 1: like things that in my mind are logically inconsistent in

1667
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:05,719
Speaker 1: a way that I don't find funny. So that seems

1668
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 1: to be why he's willing to the hell he's gonna

1669
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:11,640
Speaker 1: down and the stuff about the I don't even know

1670
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 1: what the cars things he puts out on us Instagram

1671
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 1: because not really stand up the monk. You know how

1672
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:21,600
Speaker 1: I've been looking at him. They're like podcast, I just

1673
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 1: look at it and talk. Yeah, And I think Dave

1674
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 1: Chappelle literally to me, and you know, don't write in

1675
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 1: about it. It's just my opinion and it's just my point

1676
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:32,600
Speaker 1: of view, and nothing you can say gonna change it,

1677
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 1: nothing I can say gonna change your mind. But to me,

1678
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle funniest motherfucker in the world period. Dude could

1679
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 1: just read a phone book, it would be funny to

1680
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:45,760
Speaker 1: me because he's just he's just good at timing and

1681
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 1: a bunch of little random ship that that that you know,

1682
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:51,799
Speaker 1: if you put it in a computer, adds up to funny.

1683
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 1: So I think Dave Chappelle has the gift of He

1684
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 1: could be telling you something that's very serious, like his

1685
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,680
Speaker 1: contract someone that's born and I don't care about his

1686
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 1: contract dispute with Comedy Central, and he can make it engrossing,

1687
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 1: he can make he can make you laugh a couple

1688
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 1: of times.

1689
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:11,480
Speaker 3: Storyteller.

1690
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:15,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's just basically so rich that he can

1691
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 1: use Instagram as is. I'm gonna put out a fifteen

1692
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 1: minute podcast every month and y'all gonna watch it, and

1693
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 1: that's what people do. So you know, I don't consider

1694
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 1: it stand up because I don't think he's even trying

1695
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 1: to go for I think he just happens to be

1696
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:28,640
Speaker 1: on stage.

1697
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 2: With a mic. And because even at eight forty six,

1698
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 2: like none of the shit's been funny, you know what

1699
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:35,600
Speaker 2: I mean, like people.

1700
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 3: Just on my thoughts.

1701
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's good at releasing tension with a joke, but

1702
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 1: it ain't necessarily funny. It's different than my aim is

1703
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 1: to make you laugh, and my aim is to go

1704
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 1: out here and do a podcast. You know, it's a

1705
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 1: I listen to Jail Covan's podcast. It's a difference between

1706
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 1: some episodes of Right to Prick Jails, just like I'm

1707
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 1: about to be goofy, We about to laugh and some

1708
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 1: silly shit, some some impression, and then sometimes he's like,

1709
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 1: I'm very serious and I want to talk about some

1710
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 1: very serious shit. Still the same podcast, but the aim

1711
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 1: was different today. And that's how Dave Chappelle's latest shit

1712
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 1: feels to me, like I'm on a stage. This is

1713
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:18,880
Speaker 1: a podcast like because if you look at that stand up,

1714
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 1: it's like, I mean, I get why people say.

1715
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 2: It's terrible, but I just don't look at it that

1716
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 2: way either.

1717
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 1: And I've seen him in person and he does have

1718
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 1: He does this sometimes too, where he just goes on

1719
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 1: his long tangents that aren't that are just stories, and

1720
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 1: he's looking for jokes and he's finding them some places,

1721
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 1: but sometimes he's not. Thanks for enduring this long email.

1722
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 1: I wish you all the best in your future endeavors, projects,

1723
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:43,600
Speaker 1: live shows post COVID nineteen of course, and thanks for

1724
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 1: getting me hooked on other black non hotel podcasts. The

1725
01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:50,719
Speaker 1: Three Yards Own Crew, Covan, Lamberth, Chris and the MTR

1726
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 1: Network crew forty Acres Crew, Janelle, James, Nicki, Reggie and others.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to Naschet, Thank you, Love to hear, love that list.

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01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 1: John Right saying good morning, ride of Karen Rod. If

1729
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:04,719
Speaker 1: you haven't seen the discuss this already, here's an interesting interview,

1730
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 1: analysis and annolysis of the twenty twenty election by a

1731
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 1: Democrat who studies the voter stats that has some interesting

1732
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 1: and fright the result insights. It's probably too long to

1733
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 1: read on the feedback show, but just thought you might

1734
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 1: be interested in some of the takeaways and maybe talk

1735
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:20,600
Speaker 1: about it on the episode of some points. Is it

1736
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 1: as to your long running discussions about politics in the US.

1737
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:26,759
Speaker 2: Unfortunately it's complicated. There's no easy answers. Yeah. I saved

1738
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 2: that link for later and I'll check it out. Karen.

1739
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:33,559
Speaker 1: How much of your hesitancy about Hamilton is about your

1740
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 1: distaste for musicals? And how much is just hesitance because

1741
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:38,759
Speaker 1: it's so popular with US white people?

1742
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 3: Oh, talking about the Disney Hamilton, I can say, I'm

1743
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 3: because and the fund I guess. The weird thing about

1744
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 3: Hamilton is that I'm not really a playperson, if that

1745
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 3: makes sense. I don't mind plays, and I've seen plays,

1746
01:28:57,080 --> 01:29:00,599
Speaker 3: but plays and like the quote unquote be it tall

1747
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 3: that that hadn't really been my thing on my jam.

1748
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 3: And so when it came out, everybody was talking about it.

1749
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 3: And I'm the type of person when everybody loves something,

1750
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:15,519
Speaker 3: I just let them love it and I go, okay.

1751
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:18,559
Speaker 3: I because because I'm the type of person, I don't

1752
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 3: really have the fear of missing out. I don't deal

1753
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 3: with foe mo. So I'm like, okay, and I'll just

1754
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 3: keep trucking it. I can't say I will never watch it,

1755
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 3: but it's nothing about it that just was like I've

1756
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 3: got to press play. I've got to get into this thing.

1757
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 3: I would have I probably would have seen it live

1758
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 3: if I could have got tickets to it, which probably

1759
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,600
Speaker 3: would have changed my perspective versus kind of seen it

1760
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 3: through your television, because most people who actually seen it live,

1761
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 3: you know, said that they really really enjoyed it. But

1762
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 3: you know, I don't really have a reason other than

1763
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 3: it's just not my jam. Musical is just not my jam.

1764
01:29:57,439 --> 01:29:59,839
Speaker 3: I'm not a musical person. I know some people theory

1765
01:29:59,920 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 3: is they jam, that's they shit, that's what they do,

1766
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 3: that's what they love, that's they life. But it just

1767
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 3: happens not to be mine.

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01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 1: What the good news is, I got us tickets to

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01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 1: see Hamilton. We going next week, girl, No, we ain't.

1770
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 3: Okay, we're going because I ain't got nobody shot.

1771
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:16,599
Speaker 1: Maybe like punking spice lattees. It's something you never know

1772
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 1: knew you needed in your life. Seriously, though, it's totally

1773
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:21,400
Speaker 1: worth watching, if only for the incredible amount of black

1774
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:24,759
Speaker 1: excellence it brings us, usually in a usually very white space,

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01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 1: and it's kind of musical that even people who don't

1776
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 1: really like musical seem to like. As a bonus, everyone

1777
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:31,680
Speaker 1: on stage is fine as hell, So I encourage you

1778
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:34,160
Speaker 1: to put on your ugs like those punking Spice candles

1779
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:36,839
Speaker 1: and leave your best in a white woman life. Ps.

1780
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 1: Rod just curious if you're still watching Snowfall.

1781
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 2: I'm so glad it's back. Love you both stay safe.

1782
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:44,240
Speaker 1: John. Of course I'm watching Snowfall. Talked about it with

1783
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 1: Justin a little bit on the pregame, but he's behind

1784
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 1: so we didn't really get too deep into it.

1785
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm watching Snowfall love.

1786
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 1: It is one of the best shows on TV period.

1787
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:58,599
Speaker 3: And if I ever watched Hamilton, I'll let y'all know

1788
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:00,120
Speaker 3: of sam An interrupt.

1789
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:05,160
Speaker 1: That's wrong, and I felt like the reasons the watch

1790
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 1: Hamilton was really more aimed at me because Karen's not

1791
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 1: you know she She's not truly into this white woman

1792
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 1: the color likes the way that I've been out here flourishing.

1793
01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 2: But that's fine.

1794
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,599
Speaker 1: Governor hot Wheels Tiffany Wright saying, Hey, Karen and Rod,

1795
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:21,360
Speaker 1: I hope y'all enjoy your much deserved break it all

1796
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:24,719
Speaker 1: if it allowed folks like myself to catch up. Side note,

1797
01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:27,280
Speaker 1: every time we get treated to a listmacking good episode.

1798
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:29,599
Speaker 1: I played the song a few times because it goes.

1799
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 1: Listening to episode twenty two eighty seven, I had to

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01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:35,519
Speaker 1: stop and reiterate how ridiculous these fucking Trump pleasers are

1801
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 1: here in Texas and Louisiana. At the Hot Wheels made

1802
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 1: that raggedy ass announcement last week, our Mayor Sylvester Turner

1803
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 1: turned to Twitter and call him out on it.

1804
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:46,680
Speaker 2: He even made it to CNN, saying, this is a

1805
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 2: huge mistake.

1806
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 1: Hot Wheels announcement didn't change how me and my family

1807
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 1: and friends operate because we're still going to wear our masks,

1808
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:57,720
Speaker 1: keep our distance, and listen to the scientists. Our main

1809
01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 1: concerns was that the school were going to do. Who

1810
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 1: both of my parents are teachers. Who, oh, what the

1811
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 1: school's going to do? Both my parents and teachers who

1812
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 1: got COVID back in December and were able to recover

1813
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:11,519
Speaker 1: from it. My mom has since gone back to work.

1814
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:13,639
Speaker 1: My dad is still under the physician's care, and that's

1815
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 1: because she wants him a one hundred and ten percent

1816
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:18,719
Speaker 1: before he goes back, and she says he's only about

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01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:19,559
Speaker 1: ninety eight percent.

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01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:20,759
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad they.

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01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 1: Both, you know, are doing good and stuff. Man, that's scary.

1820
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 1: Shout out to the black PCPs primary care physicians who

1821
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:31,639
Speaker 1: care about their patience.

1822
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:33,799
Speaker 2: They are both pretty active.

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01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:36,000
Speaker 1: Prior to COVID. My dad rode his bike about six

1824
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:38,200
Speaker 1: miles a day. Now he's only up to about three.

1825
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 1: He's determined to get back up to six, with his

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01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:43,000
Speaker 1: hard headed self shaking my head. Luckily, the school district

1827
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 1: they teach in said mask are still mandatory, which was

1828
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 1: a relief, and they both recently received their first vaccine,

1829
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:50,559
Speaker 1: which is a greater relief. My boyfriend has had to

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01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:54,520
Speaker 1: work throughout the entire pandemonium. He's considered essential being in logistics.

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01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 1: His company delivers everything. At one point he was having

1832
01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:00,640
Speaker 1: to make deliveries himself through the lack of and was

1833
01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:05,040
Speaker 1: taking COVID tests from Houston to Austin to be tested. Wow.

1834
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 1: There have been times when I have gone with him

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01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 1: on those deliveries just for the sake of getting out

1836
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:13,320
Speaker 1: of the house. Seeing the interstate for the first time

1837
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 1: in months was mind biggling. He recently had to make

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01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:18,800
Speaker 1: a run to North Louisiana and I went. He needed

1839
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:20,559
Speaker 1: to use the restaurant, so we pulled over at the

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01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 1: gas station in one of those traffic light towns and

1841
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 1: another car pulled up and the guy gets out no mask.

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01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 2: I look at the car.

1843
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 1: There are three people in there with not one mask

1844
01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 1: between any of them. I turned the car on and

1845
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:33,480
Speaker 1: felt like Letty.

1846
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 2: From Lovecraft when.

1847
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 3: You Go.

1848
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 1: When he came outside and we got we got the

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01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 1: fuck up out of there. They don't wear a mask.

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01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 2: He got in and said the employees didn't have masks

1851
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 2: on either.

1852
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:48,320
Speaker 1: Wow. We got a little further up the road and

1853
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:50,800
Speaker 1: I needed to go. We stopped by another place and

1854
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:52,840
Speaker 1: they had a sign on the door that said we

1855
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 1: understanding masks, don't allow some to wear them due to

1856
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 1: medical conditions. They said that, I.

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01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:00,400
Speaker 3: Don't believe that that's the lad up shit. Nope, no,

1858
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:02,720
Speaker 3: I don't know. No doctor is coming out and saying this,

1859
01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 3: y'all making this up.

1860
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 1: So we see you without a mask, We're going to

1861
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 1: assume you have a medical condition. I couldn't back out

1862
01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 1: of the fast enough. A truck pulled up next to us.

1863
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:15,000
Speaker 2: The whole damn family looked like pre existing condition and

1864
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 2: not a mask in sight.

1865
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 3: Aha.

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01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 1: It just goes to show that there are several pockets

1867
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:21,320
Speaker 1: of areas like the one we passed through that really

1868
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:24,080
Speaker 1: and truly believe that COVID isn't real and don't have

1869
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:27,320
Speaker 1: any regard to others. We get looked at like we're

1870
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:30,479
Speaker 1: crazy where mask and having idiots in charge doesn't help

1871
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:33,280
Speaker 1: the situation. Just want it needed to get that out.

1872
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:35,439
Speaker 1: Thank to you both for keeping us saying during this

1873
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 1: panini and continue to stay safe.

1874
01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:39,719
Speaker 2: T smoke, Thanks T Smoke.

1875
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:47,679
Speaker 1: This one is from Delilah, who says feedback of episode

1876
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 1: twenty two eighty nine high roding caaren as a huge

1877
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 1: fan of the show who went premium a while back,

1878
01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:55,479
Speaker 1: I have to give some feedback on the conversation y'all

1879
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 1: had about the Dutch translation of Amanda Gorman's poem. I

1880
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 1: completely understand to respect you guys vision on the story

1881
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 1: from a US viewpoint, but I'm a black female author

1882
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 1: and activist living in Dutch speaking part of Belgium and

1883
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of context has been overlooked. First,

1884
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 1: just to quickly explain how decisions are made about who

1885
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 1: gets to translate books over here, it is always the

1886
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:18,600
Speaker 1: publishing house that gets the deal, and when it's a

1887
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:21,599
Speaker 1: big name, it's always a big white publisher, because there

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01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:24,720
Speaker 1: are almost no non white publishers in Belgium or the

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01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 1: Neverland leaden Lands who present the original author with a

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01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:33,759
Speaker 1: few options. In Gorman's case, a big publisher Mulenhoff presenting

1891
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 1: her team with a few options.

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01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 2: All of these options.

1893
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:40,639
Speaker 1: Were white, so Gorman chose a non binary poet, a laureate.

1894
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 1: Of course, that in itself is not the same thing

1895
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 1: as a man. That Gorman choosing the person herself out

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01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:50,679
Speaker 1: of a wide variety. Secondly, there's extremely extreme anti black

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01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 1: racism in both our countries, something that I'm quite sure

1898
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:54,840
Speaker 1: a man the Gorman and her team are not aware of.

1899
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 1: This explains why in these countries with huge black communities

1900
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 1: in a shameful past of colonialism and slave trading. There

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01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 1: are almost no published black authors. I myself have had

1902
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:07,799
Speaker 1: to fight tooth and nail to get my books published

1903
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:10,759
Speaker 1: to be taken seriously, even though I unquote unquote famous

1904
01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 1: over here. I was the most google person in Belgium

1905
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:16,640
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen, for example, and namely named as the

1906
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:18,720
Speaker 1: only woman of color to be in the top ten

1907
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 1: of most influential people in media in twenty nineteen. Goddamn,

1908
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:24,559
Speaker 1: we are struggling with the lack of representation of black

1909
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:25,960
Speaker 1: people and black women especially.

1910
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:29,559
Speaker 2: That is almost ridiculous. When I give lectures and ask.

1911
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:31,960
Speaker 1: People to name famous black people from our Dutch speaking

1912
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:35,679
Speaker 1: region who are not athleast, the highest number I've gotten

1913
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 1: over the last five years is three. That is an

1914
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 1: important thing to note when interpreting Genis Jenis Duel's article

1915
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:46,120
Speaker 1: about the situation. Thirdly, I don't know if that is

1916
01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:49,519
Speaker 1: correct English. The translator that was originally chosen the white

1917
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:52,040
Speaker 1: non binary person has stated themselves they are not really

1918
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:55,799
Speaker 1: familiar with the English language and are never before translated anything.

1919
01:36:56,520 --> 01:36:58,960
Speaker 1: The only reason they were an option is because they

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01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 1: are also a slam and well known. They are hardly

1921
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:06,800
Speaker 1: the best choice, but most likely the most convenient commercial choice. Yeah,

1922
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 1: which I will say the most convenient commercial choice could

1923
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:13,479
Speaker 1: be the best choice depending on what you after.

1924
01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 2: But I feel but I feel you I'm not trying

1925
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 2: like they might not be the best at it.

1926
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:22,080
Speaker 1: But depending on your point of view. Anyway, I feel

1927
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:24,439
Speaker 1: like these things should be taken into consideration when discussing

1928
01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:26,679
Speaker 1: the fact that local black people have responded with outrage

1929
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 1: over the choice of a translator. It is also important

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01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:31,600
Speaker 1: to note that Jennis Dule, the first black woman to

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01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 1: write about this, had absolutely no ambition to translate the

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01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 1: work herself. She was speaking for the vast group of

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01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:41,080
Speaker 1: actual black writers and professional translators who were once again overlooked,

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01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:44,519
Speaker 1: and her not blaming Gorman for this was actually genuine.

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01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 1: She was aware of the things I stated before and

1936
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:49,240
Speaker 1: was really directing her grievances toward the Dutch publishing house

1937
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:52,760
Speaker 1: because they were the ones to out the black to

1938
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 1: ouse black authors again. They literally have not published people

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01:37:56,479 --> 01:37:58,759
Speaker 1: of color before and have zero knowledge of the community

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Speaker 1: of color and the many many talent poets and authors

1941
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:03,240
Speaker 1: and translators.

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01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 7: We have.

1943
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:06,640
Speaker 1: Just wanted to clarify this because the Car's verdict of

1944
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:09,800
Speaker 1: messing with black people should go to the racist, ultra

1945
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:12,719
Speaker 1: white publishers in this case, not the perspective translator whose

1946
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:16,760
Speaker 1: talent is writing Dutch prize and poetry is undeniable nord

1947
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:19,639
Speaker 1: janis Dule or the black activists who limited the decision.

1948
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 1: Nor Amanda Gorman with all my love for you guys,

1949
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:24,160
Speaker 1: to show the way you inspired me to rethink and

1950
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 1: real re evaluate everything that goes on state side. Keep

1951
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 1: doing what y'all doing. You haven't enriched my life greatly.

1952
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:32,439
Speaker 1: And so I wrote her back. I said, how you

1953
01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:35,080
Speaker 1: know the part about her not choosing the person themselves,

1954
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:37,040
Speaker 1: how she spoke about the process. I haven't seen her

1955
01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:39,559
Speaker 1: address it and would love to know, because I really

1956
01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:42,000
Speaker 1: Amanda Gorman just has to said anything.

1957
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:44,240
Speaker 2: And I was just like, man, I really hope they.

1958
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 1: Didn't fuck up her vision of what she wanted, you know,

1959
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:49,759
Speaker 1: out of just ambition.

1960
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:52,640
Speaker 2: Like I get it, I do understand it, but like.

1961
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 1: You know, I would like to know how people know

1962
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 1: that because obviously it wasn't an article, right, none of

1963
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:02,679
Speaker 1: this It was an article to be at fair. She said,

1964
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm part of the local black writers guilt called Alphabet

1965
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:08,200
Speaker 1: Street and There was a similar situation a few years

1966
01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:13,040
Speaker 1: back when translating James Baldwin's work and Margo Jefferson's book Negroland.

1967
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 1: White translators had translated the word negro into nigger, which

1968
01:39:17,240 --> 01:39:19,880
Speaker 1: is a Dutch word for nigger. We don't really have

1969
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:22,920
Speaker 1: a translation for negro, so black authors called this out

1970
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:25,880
Speaker 1: and asked for a less offensive translation, more in keeping

1971
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 1: with the language sensitivities. This turned out into a media

1972
01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:33,120
Speaker 1: a big media debate about translations, that is, when the

1973
01:39:33,160 --> 01:39:36,560
Speaker 1: process of how these translators got selected came out. Muhlenhoff

1974
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:39,679
Speaker 1: has admitted to only presenting their options from their narrow

1975
01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:43,280
Speaker 1: network in Dutch media, but I don't think it has

1976
01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:46,519
Speaker 1: been translated to international media, So I am not sure

1977
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:51,360
Speaker 1: Gorman knows that this happened. It's difficult to derive ethnicity

1978
01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:54,960
Speaker 1: from a list of Dutch names presented, I think so.

1979
01:39:55,080 --> 01:39:57,040
Speaker 1: I think there because I didn't know any of that

1980
01:39:57,080 --> 01:40:00,000
Speaker 1: shit when we were talking about it, And I think

1981
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:04,120
Speaker 1: I think just being so accustomed to looking at shit

1982
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:07,400
Speaker 1: from an American lens and looking at how petty shit

1983
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:11,040
Speaker 1: can get in the name of activism here, I definitely

1984
01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:15,080
Speaker 1: was like very cynical about it. Like, you know, like,

1985
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:18,120
Speaker 1: this is not the first I'm sure it won't be

1986
01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:21,000
Speaker 1: the last time that I've seen somebody go I'm angling

1987
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:21,559
Speaker 1: for a thing.

1988
01:40:21,680 --> 01:40:24,360
Speaker 2: But I don't want to just say I want this thing, right.

1989
01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:27,280
Speaker 1: So what I'm gonna say instead is this is racist somehow,

1990
01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:30,519
Speaker 1: and it's like, but that's not racist, or this person

1991
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:34,120
Speaker 1: chose this thing. I think the translation thing is very

1992
01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:37,559
Speaker 1: big in that the article we read, they didn't mention

1993
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:40,200
Speaker 1: any of this stuff, especially the history of the publishing

1994
01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:46,000
Speaker 1: house and the fact that they had done through this

1995
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:52,360
Speaker 1: before and that's super important and relevant to the thing. Now,

1996
01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:55,200
Speaker 1: maybe they didn't mention it because the person was stepping down,

1997
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:57,559
Speaker 1: So why I mention it, you know what I mean?

1998
01:40:58,080 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 2: I could see them saying that too.

1999
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:01,920
Speaker 1: Well, they're they're stepping down, so there's no need to

2000
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:04,760
Speaker 1: get into like why this is a thing, or like

2001
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:07,640
Speaker 1: you said, they've released stuff in the Dutch media that

2002
01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:11,320
Speaker 1: hasn't been translated to international yet, so maybe that's.

2003
01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:12,160
Speaker 2: The reason we didn't hear it.

2004
01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:17,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, it totally changes the everything I thought about this,

2005
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:20,680
Speaker 1: uh and the way I felt about it. And now

2006
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:23,679
Speaker 1: I'm on jenis dual side, and I apologize to Jennis

2007
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:28,200
Speaker 1: and you know, all the Dutch people, the Black Dutch

2008
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:32,800
Speaker 1: people to be specific, I apologize to them because I,

2009
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:37,200
Speaker 1: you know, I really should not have assumed. Sometimes my

2010
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:40,320
Speaker 1: citizism can be bad, you know, or it can be inaccurate,

2011
01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:42,920
Speaker 1: and it was inaccurate in this case. Man, if everything

2012
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:46,439
Speaker 1: you're saying is correct, now, hopefully no nobody writes.

2013
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:49,360
Speaker 2: In next week like, actually, nigga, just what's really going

2014
01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:50,519
Speaker 2: down in that Dutch Land?

2015
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:54,040
Speaker 1: Y'all don't know, so hopefully we haven't gotten in the

2016
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:58,080
Speaker 1: middle of black Dutch Land and beef right, somebody a

2017
01:41:58,200 --> 01:41:59,720
Speaker 1: right and let me tell you what Jennis did.

2018
01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 3: Okay, first of all, let me tell you what's happening

2019
01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:04,280
Speaker 3: over here in Dutch Land.

2020
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, so hopefully you know this This is kind of

2021
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:10,640
Speaker 1: the X, the filling in the gaps of information we

2022
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:13,240
Speaker 1: didn't have. And uh yeah, man, like I said, I

2023
01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:17,639
Speaker 1: actually do feel sorry and apologize even with without knowing

2024
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:20,240
Speaker 1: all that stuff, you know, because because you know, the

2025
01:42:20,360 --> 01:42:22,720
Speaker 1: last thing you wanted to have somebody do is be

2026
01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:27,519
Speaker 1: dismissive of some some systematic, systemic issue you're having just

2027
01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:31,120
Speaker 1: because they don't know, you know. And so even though

2028
01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:33,920
Speaker 1: I didn't know, uh, you know, I hate to even

2029
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:39,720
Speaker 1: contribute to an environment of that. All right, let's see, uh,

2030
01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:43,519
Speaker 1: Rebecca writes in Dear Rod and Karen, wanted to share

2031
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 1: some good news with you that happened in our state

2032
01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:49,559
Speaker 1: special state Senate election this past week. Mister Craig Hickman,

2033
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 1: who has been voted into Maine State Senate. Oh wait,

2034
01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:57,160
Speaker 1: mister Craig Hickman has been voted in the main state Senate.

2035
01:42:57,240 --> 01:42:59,559
Speaker 1: He just finished serving the state congressman for this district

2036
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:03,080
Speaker 1: and easily one the Senate race. As I live in

2037
01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:06,120
Speaker 1: the same town as this fine gentleman, I can attest

2038
01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:08,960
Speaker 1: to his good works. Him and his partner operated a

2039
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:11,519
Speaker 1: pantry farm for the needy here in Winthrop. I'm very

2040
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:14,800
Speaker 1: proud of the manors because, as he said, it's not

2041
01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:17,280
Speaker 1: about what you look like, who you love, how you

2042
01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:19,439
Speaker 1: walk or talk. It only matters what you do. It

2043
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:21,960
Speaker 1: was a very important election for us, because you know,

2044
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:24,840
Speaker 1: it's your local elections that matter the most, sir.

2045
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:28,200
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, And everybody emphasizes so much on the national

2046
01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:31,600
Speaker 3: elections that people forget that the local ones are the

2047
01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:35,600
Speaker 3: ones that actually impact you quicker and faster than the

2048
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:37,040
Speaker 3: national elections do.

2049
01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:39,280
Speaker 1: This is a very important election for us. Because you know,

2050
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:41,880
Speaker 1: I've linked the articles that you could read about it. More,

2051
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:44,040
Speaker 1: I thought you could use a good political news from

2052
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:47,720
Speaker 1: a mildly backwood state. Love you guys, what the great world.

2053
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:51,760
Speaker 1: Great work, Rebecca m Thanks Rebecca, thank you. Yeah, and

2054
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 1: shout out to the Craig. Here's a b a black man.

2055
01:43:56,080 --> 01:43:59,240
Speaker 1: You love to see it, you do. You were sworn

2056
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:07,920
Speaker 1: in Wednesday Wednesday morning, and he's a Democrat, so yeah, man,

2057
01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:09,760
Speaker 1: you love to see it. And it looked like he's

2058
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:11,600
Speaker 1: kind of young too, so you know, bringing in that

2059
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:15,640
Speaker 1: young democratic blood. He's an openly gay black man.

2060
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:19,120
Speaker 2: He's the first openly gay black man.

2061
01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:23,800
Speaker 1: It says he said four times. Okay, dope man, cool man.

2062
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:26,880
Speaker 1: I don't know it stands on issues and stuff yet,

2063
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:30,160
Speaker 1: but I mean, obviously better than any Republican they would

2064
01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:33,360
Speaker 1: have had in that seat, so I'm on board. Last

2065
01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:35,960
Speaker 1: one this is from b who says, Hi, Rod and Karen,

2066
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:38,759
Speaker 1: thank you for your candid discussion on the Reading Rainbow segment.

2067
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:40,800
Speaker 1: The conversation about self care and how important it is

2068
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:43,120
Speaker 1: to tend to our enter home was so real and

2069
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:45,679
Speaker 1: it resonated with me. I felt like I could relate

2070
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:48,080
Speaker 1: with what you were saying. Rod saying no in most

2071
01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:50,599
Speaker 1: cases would be natural. So when an emotion like anger

2072
01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:53,439
Speaker 1: and companies, I know the root of that anger is

2073
01:44:53,479 --> 01:44:57,839
Speaker 1: worth exploring. As an adult starting to heal from childhood

2074
01:44:57,880 --> 01:45:00,880
Speaker 1: trauma often responded with anger, especially to those close to

2075
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:04,719
Speaker 1: me siblings, xpouse, et cetera. My anger always felt justified

2076
01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:07,120
Speaker 1: because for the first time I was accepting that my

2077
01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:09,679
Speaker 1: pain was justified, and I was afraid of ever being

2078
01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:10,639
Speaker 1: invalidated again.

2079
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:12,559
Speaker 3: M mm hmmm, mm hmmm.

2080
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:13,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2081
01:45:13,160 --> 01:45:18,280
Speaker 1: I think also anger always feels justified, and that's the

2082
01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:20,080
Speaker 1: That's why I'm scared of it, That's why I don't

2083
01:45:20,080 --> 01:45:20,880
Speaker 1: want it, That's why I.

2084
01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:21,840
Speaker 2: Try to fight against it.

2085
01:45:22,160 --> 01:45:27,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and yes, anger is a false illusion of control

2086
01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:30,320
Speaker 3: because you actually aren't controlling anything. You have the illusion,

2087
01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:34,560
Speaker 3: but you actually are out of control. And the thing is,

2088
01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 3: the anger itself is not the problem. The problem is

2089
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:39,240
Speaker 3: what do you? What do you do and and where

2090
01:45:39,320 --> 01:45:41,599
Speaker 3: do you target? Like, the anger has got to go somewhere,

2091
01:45:41,720 --> 01:45:43,400
Speaker 3: so it's going to be released out of you in

2092
01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:46,160
Speaker 3: various different ways. Some people release it in art, some

2093
01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:48,559
Speaker 3: people release it in active, and some people release their

2094
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:50,160
Speaker 3: anger in very different ways. But a lot of people

2095
01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:52,679
Speaker 3: are not constructive and they don't realize that their anger

2096
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:56,800
Speaker 3: is coming out in non constructive ways. Because I do

2097
01:45:57,040 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 3: understand with that knowing the anger, because you do feel validated,

2098
01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:03,400
Speaker 3: you do feel justified, you know, And you know, for

2099
01:46:03,400 --> 01:46:05,320
Speaker 3: a lot of times, it's that fear of not wanting

2100
01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:07,880
Speaker 3: to be heard again, It's that fear of, well, they

2101
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:10,360
Speaker 3: did this to me, so I'm gonna be sure nobody never, never,

2102
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:12,880
Speaker 3: never does this to me again. When a lot of

2103
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:15,880
Speaker 3: times you're doing nothing but hurting yourself, and I you know,

2104
01:46:16,040 --> 01:46:18,320
Speaker 3: it took a while to get to this point, and

2105
01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:21,240
Speaker 3: once you understand this, it's kind of easier to navigate. No,

2106
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:24,880
Speaker 3: pain is not easy. Pain is not the best feeling

2107
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:26,920
Speaker 3: in the world. But pain is a part of life.

2108
01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:31,200
Speaker 3: And sometimes people spend so much time preventing pain that

2109
01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 3: they don't even allow themselves to grow because they are

2110
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:36,960
Speaker 3: stuck in the cocoon of pain. And sometimes in order

2111
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:40,200
Speaker 3: to heal, you got to get past that pain. Sometimes

2112
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:41,800
Speaker 3: that's very difficult for people to do.

2113
01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, And honestly, like.

2114
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:48,760
Speaker 1: If anger feels good normally in the middle of it,

2115
01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:51,840
Speaker 1: not you know, sometimes you regret it, but it normally

2116
01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:54,519
Speaker 1: feels good, Why are you doing it? And then you

2117
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:58,519
Speaker 1: always feel justified. I think about sometimes I watch her

2118
01:46:59,240 --> 01:47:03,120
Speaker 1: like for my many y'all know My Faith, my problematic

2119
01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:07,479
Speaker 1: favorite show I watched for my man, and so many

2120
01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:11,240
Speaker 1: episodes are just people got angry about something in and

2121
01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:16,640
Speaker 1: it's something that seems just stupid, Like it seems ridiculous

2122
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:18,400
Speaker 1: in the light of in the light of the day,

2123
01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:22,080
Speaker 1: like that, now that you're you're not this age anymore,

2124
01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:24,160
Speaker 1: now that this time has passed, now that you face

2125
01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:29,360
Speaker 1: these consequences, now it seems so ridiculous. My mom wouldn't

2126
01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:31,719
Speaker 1: let me go out with my boyfriend when I was sixteen,

2127
01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:35,160
Speaker 1: So I killed my parents. Right, So now that years

2128
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:38,560
Speaker 1: in jail, right, But how What I always think is

2129
01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:43,800
Speaker 1: how justified did they feel while they were doing it?

2130
01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:44,200
Speaker 3: Right?

2131
01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:47,880
Speaker 1: Because you did that, It's done. These are not crimes

2132
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:49,679
Speaker 1: that didn't happen. These are the crimes that did happen.

2133
01:47:49,880 --> 01:47:50,000
Speaker 3: Right.

2134
01:47:50,200 --> 01:47:52,280
Speaker 2: There was a woman where her.

2135
01:47:54,280 --> 01:47:56,920
Speaker 1: I was watching one. She was like a former beauty

2136
01:47:57,000 --> 01:48:04,040
Speaker 1: queen and her current boy friend was like, I don't know,

2137
01:48:04,120 --> 01:48:07,160
Speaker 1: I guess house sitting for her. And she went on

2138
01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:09,439
Speaker 1: a trip and she left a bag of jewelry in

2139
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:11,479
Speaker 1: her house according to her, just her point of view,

2140
01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:14,200
Speaker 1: and she came back from the trip and the jewelry

2141
01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:18,040
Speaker 1: was gone, and she basically asked him to to take it.

2142
01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:19,960
Speaker 1: He said he didn't, and you know, they went back

2143
01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:21,640
Speaker 1: and forth a few times, but he always said he

2144
01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:27,439
Speaker 1: didn't take it. So then finally, uh, she had her

2145
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:30,840
Speaker 1: ex boyfriend who had bought her all this jury. She

2146
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:32,559
Speaker 1: told him about it. He saw it as a way

2147
01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:34,639
Speaker 1: to get back with her, so he brought a gun

2148
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:38,280
Speaker 1: over there and they, yeah, and they ended up like

2149
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:40,840
Speaker 1: beating the dude, torturing the dude.

2150
01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:42,160
Speaker 2: They tied him up.

2151
01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:46,160
Speaker 1: And you know, and then they sat on the couch

2152
01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:48,960
Speaker 1: and talked for a while, and then the ex boyfriend

2153
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:50,479
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna go to the store real quick

2154
01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:52,760
Speaker 1: and get some more supply so we can like tie

2155
01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:57,120
Speaker 1: him up more by like we're gonna bind him more thoroughly.

2156
01:48:57,520 --> 01:48:59,880
Speaker 1: Here's the gun. If he moved, shoot him, what you

2157
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:04,519
Speaker 1: or whatever, And the ex boyfriend the new boyfriend essentially

2158
01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:07,760
Speaker 1: got loose and escaped and da da da, and the

2159
01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:09,599
Speaker 1: woman went to jail and she got like a couple

2160
01:49:09,640 --> 01:49:12,360
Speaker 1: of years in prison and all this stuff. The boyfriend

2161
01:49:12,439 --> 01:49:15,920
Speaker 1: currently says he never had any of the shit. He

2162
01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:18,120
Speaker 1: didn't pawn it or any of this. He didn't sell it,

2163
01:49:18,160 --> 01:49:21,640
Speaker 1: he didn't steal it. Right, But they were saying like,

2164
01:49:22,040 --> 01:49:26,280
Speaker 1: even as she got sentenced, she still was like feeling justified.

2165
01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:30,000
Speaker 1: Of course, that's what you gotta do. And I'm like, yeah,

2166
01:49:30,040 --> 01:49:30,680
Speaker 1: because when you.

2167
01:49:30,920 --> 01:49:34,360
Speaker 2: Mad, it's like there was no other alternative. I had to.

2168
01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:36,840
Speaker 1: I couldn't call the police. I couldn't. I had to

2169
01:49:37,240 --> 01:49:39,120
Speaker 1: because the police could have investigated whether or not this

2170
01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:42,280
Speaker 1: nigga went to pawn shops. It's not no fucking that's

2171
01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:45,200
Speaker 1: not some unknowable shit. But it was like, I was

2172
01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:48,760
Speaker 1: so angry. I was like, I'll plot with my ex

2173
01:49:48,920 --> 01:49:51,720
Speaker 1: boyfriend for days on how we kidnapping this dude, and

2174
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:54,840
Speaker 1: of course goals, but also that's a.

2175
01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:57,880
Speaker 2: That's a ridiculous decision you made out of anger.

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01:49:58,040 --> 01:50:02,880
Speaker 3: Yes, And also the the thing about the illusion of

2177
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:07,240
Speaker 3: anger is that once you give that anger up, you

2178
01:50:07,479 --> 01:50:10,880
Speaker 3: have to face reality. And so a lot of times

2179
01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:13,640
Speaker 3: the illusion of anger keeps people angry because if they

2180
01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:15,240
Speaker 3: have to give that up, they have to give up

2181
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:17,760
Speaker 3: their power, they have to deal with the consequences of

2182
01:50:17,800 --> 01:50:19,639
Speaker 3: the anger. Because a lot of times when people are angry.

2183
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:22,639
Speaker 3: That's when people hurt the people closest to them the most.

2184
01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:24,400
Speaker 3: That's when they do the most damage.

2185
01:50:24,680 --> 01:50:25,600
Speaker 2: And herself.

2186
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:27,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then once you come down from that anger,

2187
01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:31,200
Speaker 3: you look around at the devastation and everything that you

2188
01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:35,719
Speaker 3: have fucking burnt around you. Because anger is an uncontrollable rage.

2189
01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:39,519
Speaker 3: You cannot control anger. Everybody thinks they can. Once that

2190
01:50:39,680 --> 01:50:43,000
Speaker 3: spark gets lit and you pull gasoline on that flame,

2191
01:50:43,479 --> 01:50:46,120
Speaker 3: it will end up being more devastating than you ever

2192
01:50:46,240 --> 01:50:49,800
Speaker 3: could have imagined because you cannot control that flame, and.

2193
01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:52,800
Speaker 2: It's masking something else. Anger is never just anger.

2194
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:53,360
Speaker 3: Correct.

2195
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:55,880
Speaker 2: Let's go back to Sharon Osborne.

2196
01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:59,320
Speaker 1: She lashed out in anger at Cheryl because her fear,

2197
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:03,719
Speaker 1: her fear was of being outed or seen as depending

2198
01:51:03,760 --> 01:51:06,719
Speaker 1: on your opinion, I'm gonna go without it being outed

2199
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:09,479
Speaker 1: as a racist on national TV or seen as a

2200
01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:10,479
Speaker 1: racist on national TV.

2201
01:51:10,640 --> 01:51:12,879
Speaker 2: And that fear was so palpable.

2202
01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:16,599
Speaker 1: She was yelling at this woman because it wasn't really

2203
01:51:16,640 --> 01:51:19,439
Speaker 1: about the anger. It's about the insecurity she had inside.

2204
01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:23,479
Speaker 1: It's taking years agowth and a long period of limited

2205
01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:26,120
Speaker 1: contact with my family and unrelenting mental health work to

2206
01:51:26,200 --> 01:51:29,160
Speaker 1: recognize that I was also angry. Because people often unintentionally

2207
01:51:29,200 --> 01:51:31,600
Speaker 1: bumped against my boundaries, and to me, that felt the

2208
01:51:31,640 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 1: same as crossing them. Karen was right to mention PTSD

2209
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 1: as a factor in the anger fear of response. I

2210
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:39,479
Speaker 1: was not equipped to deal with my childhood emotional abuse

2211
01:51:39,560 --> 01:51:42,759
Speaker 1: and adult physical abuse, and myself, for a period, became

2212
01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:48,479
Speaker 1: an abuser. Even after it's cyclical, it all starts somewhere cyclical,

2213
01:51:49,240 --> 01:51:51,519
Speaker 1: but we're all responsible for breaking our own cycles.

2214
01:51:51,560 --> 01:51:54,400
Speaker 2: But it starts somewhere. Even though after I began to

2215
01:51:54,439 --> 01:51:55,439
Speaker 2: do the work of healing.

2216
01:51:55,240 --> 01:51:57,200
Speaker 1: I would react to people bumping my boundaries as if

2217
01:51:57,200 --> 01:51:58,320
Speaker 1: they had actually crossed them.

2218
01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:00,639
Speaker 3: There is the difference if.

2219
01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:02,479
Speaker 1: Someone so much as asked me to do something I

2220
01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:05,360
Speaker 1: didn't want to do, that asking somehow felt like a

2221
01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:08,479
Speaker 1: boundary violation. I had drawn this circle to circle around myself,

2222
01:52:08,520 --> 01:52:10,240
Speaker 1: to find by what I do not want.

2223
01:52:10,479 --> 01:52:12,439
Speaker 2: And what had hurt me in the past.

2224
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:16,400
Speaker 1: But after a while I learned, I learned to draw

2225
01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:19,400
Speaker 1: a second inner circle around myself, a second boundary to

2226
01:52:19,479 --> 01:52:21,639
Speaker 1: protect what I do want and what I do want

2227
01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:24,000
Speaker 1: for myself and what's in me, and what and want

2228
01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:28,240
Speaker 1: what's in me that I want to bring to the world.

2229
01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:33,320
Speaker 1: Between these those two boundaries of what I do want

2230
01:52:33,400 --> 01:52:35,920
Speaker 1: and what I don't want. There was now a buffer

2231
01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:38,920
Speaker 1: and I and it helped me breathe easier. I felt

2232
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:42,080
Speaker 1: less angry because I had created a clear space between

2233
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 1: my knees and desires and the knees and desires external

2234
01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:47,320
Speaker 1: to me. I didn't mean to write a think piece

2235
01:52:47,360 --> 01:52:49,280
Speaker 1: on the subject, but if you do read all of it,

2236
01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:52,360
Speaker 1: I hope this illustration of boundaries helps someone else create

2237
01:52:52,439 --> 01:52:53,920
Speaker 1: a more secure inner home.

2238
01:52:54,680 --> 01:52:56,680
Speaker 2: Love you guys, Thanks B Thank you B.

2239
01:52:56,920 --> 01:52:59,600
Speaker 3: Yes, that that that's very valid and that's something that

2240
01:52:59,800 --> 01:53:02,960
Speaker 3: I had to do too. Yeah, you kind of have

2241
01:53:03,080 --> 01:53:06,880
Speaker 3: to draw two lines because, like you said, if you're

2242
01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:09,639
Speaker 3: coming from a place of hurd and PTSD and you're

2243
01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:12,639
Speaker 3: trying to wrap your mind around something and you've drawn

2244
01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:16,920
Speaker 3: this hard line in the ground, the second somebody gets closer,

2245
01:53:17,000 --> 01:53:18,680
Speaker 3: like you say, bumped into it. They didn't cross it.

2246
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:21,760
Speaker 3: They're just like oops. Your response is the same as this,

2247
01:53:21,880 --> 01:53:24,680
Speaker 3: though they crossed it, because once they bumped into it,

2248
01:53:25,479 --> 01:53:29,080
Speaker 3: it causes a chain reaction in you because it triggers something.

2249
01:53:29,400 --> 01:53:33,800
Speaker 3: And when it triggers it, the response is fight, fight, fight, fight, fight,

2250
01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:36,519
Speaker 3: That's the response. The response is fight, the responses you

2251
01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:38,880
Speaker 3: need to get away that the fight of flight kicks in.

2252
01:53:39,080 --> 01:53:42,320
Speaker 3: That's the initial response when every time somebody bumps into it.

2253
01:53:42,439 --> 01:53:44,040
Speaker 3: It is not the time for you to put out

2254
01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:46,600
Speaker 3: the pitchforks and burn everything down. It's just you know,

2255
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:49,479
Speaker 3: and a lot of times it makes you appear crazy

2256
01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:52,280
Speaker 3: when you're not crazy. You're just responding out of a

2257
01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:54,599
Speaker 3: place of hurt and pain. But that person coming there,

2258
01:53:54,640 --> 01:53:56,400
Speaker 3: they don't know that. They don't know your history. They

2259
01:53:56,439 --> 01:53:58,280
Speaker 3: don't know that, and it's not their job nor their

2260
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:02,000
Speaker 3: responsibility to acknowledge it nor fix it. It's just not

2261
01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:04,240
Speaker 3: Those are self things that you have to do. But

2262
01:54:04,280 --> 01:54:05,920
Speaker 3: a lot of times people respond like that and they

2263
01:54:05,960 --> 01:54:07,519
Speaker 3: put it on they put the onus on the other

2264
01:54:07,600 --> 01:54:09,639
Speaker 3: person to figure out how to fix them or figure

2265
01:54:09,680 --> 01:54:11,360
Speaker 3: out how to navigate their world. That's not fair and

2266
01:54:11,439 --> 01:54:13,160
Speaker 3: that's not right. That shit that you need to fix,

2267
01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:15,680
Speaker 3: those those internal things that you have to deal with,

2268
01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:18,240
Speaker 3: and that's very hard for people to understand. So I'm

2269
01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:21,080
Speaker 3: like you, I had to learn how to say okay,

2270
01:54:21,400 --> 01:54:24,240
Speaker 3: you bumped into me. Bumping into me and be like,

2271
01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:27,559
Speaker 3: oh my bad. It's different than you crossing that line

2272
01:54:27,880 --> 01:54:29,799
Speaker 3: and going I don't give a fuck about your boundaries.

2273
01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:32,280
Speaker 3: Those are two different things, and I couldn't tell the

2274
01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:34,520
Speaker 3: difference at first either. So Roger could tell you. My

2275
01:54:34,680 --> 01:54:36,760
Speaker 3: note was with meanness, and my no was like no,

2276
01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:38,720
Speaker 3: I said no, and no mean no. Don't ask me

2277
01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:43,280
Speaker 3: to get like it was like. And that's not a

2278
01:54:43,440 --> 01:54:46,320
Speaker 3: mentally a healthy place to be. It's just not, I

2279
01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:48,560
Speaker 3: know for a fact, it's just not. So there's a

2280
01:54:48,640 --> 01:54:52,840
Speaker 3: difference between you bumping into me and then I've told

2281
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:55,600
Speaker 3: you how I feel, and most people who respect you,

2282
01:54:56,040 --> 01:55:00,160
Speaker 3: we'll go cool, my bad or whatever, and y'all still cool. Yes,

2283
01:55:00,440 --> 01:55:03,520
Speaker 3: their response is negative to that. You're not the problem

2284
01:55:03,680 --> 01:55:06,320
Speaker 3: they are. The average person does not mind being told no.

2285
01:55:06,720 --> 01:55:09,200
Speaker 3: The average person will respect your no. The average person

2286
01:55:09,560 --> 01:55:12,360
Speaker 3: will not bypass the boundaries that you have set because

2287
01:55:12,360 --> 01:55:14,600
Speaker 3: they respect you as a person. But you do have

2288
01:55:14,720 --> 01:55:16,920
Speaker 3: people that they will cross those boundaries. And then when

2289
01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:19,960
Speaker 3: they cross those boundaries, that's when defenses go up, you know,

2290
01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:21,760
Speaker 3: that's when you pull the soils out. That's when you

2291
01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:25,440
Speaker 3: get ready to fight for your boundaries. You know, because

2292
01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:28,440
Speaker 3: people like me, who had no boundaries, people would just

2293
01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:30,760
Speaker 3: roll up on me and this thing, you know, I'm

2294
01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:33,560
Speaker 3: getting stabbed and I'm dying and I'm hurting and I'm

2295
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:35,600
Speaker 3: in pain, and I don't understand why. That's because I

2296
01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:38,480
Speaker 3: had no boundaries, no boundaries. It's not safe either. So

2297
01:55:38,640 --> 01:55:42,720
Speaker 3: you need to have some forms of boundaries for self protection,

2298
01:55:42,880 --> 01:55:45,480
Speaker 3: to protect yourself because pain is a part of life.

2299
01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:48,080
Speaker 3: But sometimes we can allow pain to come in when

2300
01:55:48,120 --> 01:55:50,200
Speaker 3: it doesn't have to be there by not setting up

2301
01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:52,080
Speaker 3: healthy boundaries for ourselves.

2302
01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and keep in mind, everybody else existed in this

2303
01:55:55,160 --> 01:55:58,960
Speaker 1: world and many people have this, so a lot of

2304
01:55:59,040 --> 01:56:03,120
Speaker 1: it's internal. You know, many people have the same struggles,

2305
01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:05,400
Speaker 1: and many people have those boundaries already set up in

2306
01:56:05,480 --> 01:56:06,240
Speaker 1: a way that's healthy.

2307
01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:08,520
Speaker 2: And you know, like I said, I got a lot

2308
01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:10,040
Speaker 2: of inspiration from Justin.

2309
01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:15,280
Speaker 1: Because I'm like, Justin is really good about seeing saying

2310
01:56:15,680 --> 01:56:17,600
Speaker 1: I just don't want to do this and that's a

2311
01:56:17,680 --> 01:56:20,720
Speaker 1: good enough reason. Whereas I was always a person so

2312
01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:23,400
Speaker 1: and asked me something, I think, is there a reason

2313
01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:24,160
Speaker 1: I can't do it?

2314
01:56:24,280 --> 01:56:25,040
Speaker 2: Then I should do it?

2315
01:56:25,240 --> 01:56:29,040
Speaker 1: And it was like, that's not, that's not. There's reasons

2316
01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:31,960
Speaker 1: I'm not allowing myself, you know what I mean. There's

2317
01:56:32,000 --> 01:56:33,840
Speaker 1: reasons of I don't feel like doing it, I don't

2318
01:56:33,920 --> 01:56:35,720
Speaker 1: like this person, I don't want to work with them,

2319
01:56:36,440 --> 01:56:39,800
Speaker 1: you know, And sometimes you know, people take it away,

2320
01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:43,360
Speaker 1: But when they take it that way, then it's honestly

2321
01:56:43,560 --> 01:56:46,280
Speaker 1: is proof that you did the right thing. Yes, you know,

2322
01:56:46,440 --> 01:56:49,680
Speaker 1: because no, only a manipulative asshole will take it that way.

2323
01:56:49,800 --> 01:56:52,240
Speaker 1: I know I've been told no before. I've never taken

2324
01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:54,640
Speaker 1: it that way. I've never you know, say hey, I

2325
01:56:54,760 --> 01:56:58,120
Speaker 1: can't make your podcast really man like, I've never done that.

2326
01:56:58,200 --> 01:57:00,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, they just make it so if they

2327
01:57:01,000 --> 01:57:03,360
Speaker 1: if some if I know how to take no, I'm

2328
01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:05,360
Speaker 1: gonna give people the credit they deserve.

2329
01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:06,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give people.

2330
01:57:06,280 --> 01:57:12,160
Speaker 1: The same amount of the same amount of benefit of

2331
01:57:12,240 --> 01:57:14,680
Speaker 1: the doubt that I give myself. You can take a

2332
01:57:14,760 --> 01:57:17,200
Speaker 1: note because you're a grown up, and I can take

2333
01:57:17,200 --> 01:57:19,080
Speaker 1: a note because I'm a grown up. And as long

2334
01:57:19,120 --> 01:57:21,520
Speaker 1: as it's the only thing I will worry about is

2335
01:57:21,680 --> 01:57:25,520
Speaker 1: putting that emotional content and hurting somebody I don't mean to,

2336
01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:27,680
Speaker 1: So then I take that note.

2337
01:57:27,720 --> 01:57:29,880
Speaker 2: When I hit them with the mean, angry no, well

2338
01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:31,360
Speaker 2: now I have deluded.

2339
01:57:31,600 --> 01:57:34,720
Speaker 1: I have clouded the pool, because you know, my emotional

2340
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:36,320
Speaker 1: water was clear as day.

2341
01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:38,200
Speaker 2: You can swim and you can see the fucking coral

2342
01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:40,120
Speaker 2: reefs and die.

2343
01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:42,680
Speaker 1: With the fish. And now I'm poisoning my own water.

2344
01:57:42,720 --> 01:57:45,760
Speaker 1: I'm putting ink in my own water because I'm the

2345
01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:48,240
Speaker 1: one going no, how dare you ask me?

2346
01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:48,480
Speaker 3: Now?

2347
01:57:48,720 --> 01:57:50,960
Speaker 2: Now I'm like damn, Like if I'm the other person,

2348
01:57:51,120 --> 01:57:51,920
Speaker 2: like what's wrong with rod?

2349
01:57:52,080 --> 01:57:52,200
Speaker 1: You know?

2350
01:57:52,480 --> 01:57:55,800
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And so, like I said, it's something that

2351
01:57:55,920 --> 01:57:58,640
Speaker 3: you have to learn how to do. Learn how to navigate,

2352
01:57:59,120 --> 01:58:02,320
Speaker 3: learn how to take care of your boundaries, learn how

2353
01:58:02,320 --> 01:58:06,720
Speaker 3: to nurture your boundaries, learn how to learn what your

2354
01:58:06,760 --> 01:58:09,400
Speaker 3: boundaries need, because as you get older and as you change,

2355
01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:13,840
Speaker 3: your boundaries will change. And you know, the requirements of

2356
01:58:13,960 --> 01:58:17,160
Speaker 3: the boundaries will change as you change, because the boundaries

2357
01:58:17,240 --> 01:58:19,640
Speaker 3: you set when you're young should not be the same

2358
01:58:19,720 --> 01:58:22,520
Speaker 3: boundaries you set as you get older, because you've experienced

2359
01:58:22,560 --> 01:58:25,040
Speaker 3: more of life, so they should adapt. And that just

2360
01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:28,160
Speaker 3: accordingly to where you're at at certain periods and parts

2361
01:58:28,200 --> 01:58:32,680
Speaker 3: of your life. And so for me, that learning process

2362
01:58:32,760 --> 01:58:34,800
Speaker 3: has taught me things like for me, I learned how

2363
01:58:34,920 --> 01:58:38,640
Speaker 3: to have more boundaries. Bout watching Roderick, like you know,

2364
01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:41,000
Speaker 3: just about watching him tell people no, like all right

2365
01:58:41,040 --> 01:58:43,680
Speaker 3: and moving on, Like for me, no has always been

2366
01:58:43,800 --> 01:58:46,160
Speaker 3: a bad thing No, has never been a good thing

2367
01:58:46,200 --> 01:58:49,120
Speaker 3: because how it was raised. You know, I do whatever

2368
01:58:49,160 --> 01:58:50,600
Speaker 3: I have to do just so I don't have to

2369
01:58:50,640 --> 01:58:53,360
Speaker 3: deal with the consequences of letting people down or disappointing

2370
01:58:53,400 --> 01:58:55,520
Speaker 3: them and having them see me in these certain light.

2371
01:58:55,840 --> 01:58:57,640
Speaker 3: I know for some people they've never had that problem,

2372
01:58:57,840 --> 01:59:01,040
Speaker 3: hooray and good for you. But for me, that's something

2373
01:59:01,080 --> 01:59:04,160
Speaker 3: that I've personally had to struggle with. I've always been

2374
01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:09,400
Speaker 3: a people pleaser, and when you are people pleaser naturally

2375
01:59:09,480 --> 01:59:13,040
Speaker 3: by nature, it's very hard to fight against the natural

2376
01:59:13,160 --> 01:59:15,760
Speaker 3: part of you that wants to please people. But as

2377
01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:19,400
Speaker 3: you get older, you realize that, hey, you can't please everybody.

2378
01:59:19,760 --> 01:59:21,720
Speaker 3: Be somebody's always going to be let down by the

2379
01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:24,480
Speaker 3: decisions you make, and somebody's always not going to like

2380
01:59:24,560 --> 01:59:27,120
Speaker 3: the decisions you make. This best for you, and you

2381
01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:29,760
Speaker 3: got to learn how to sit in people not liking you.

2382
01:59:30,440 --> 01:59:33,000
Speaker 3: Once I understood, oh, I've got to learn how to

2383
01:59:33,080 --> 01:59:35,680
Speaker 3: sit in the uncomfortableness of them not liking me, and

2384
01:59:35,800 --> 01:59:39,280
Speaker 3: they've got to deal with the uncomfortableness of mine. No, yep,

2385
01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:42,280
Speaker 3: once you do that. Once I did that, my life

2386
01:59:42,480 --> 01:59:46,080
Speaker 3: changed forever because it came to a point of respect

2387
01:59:46,560 --> 01:59:48,800
Speaker 3: a lot of times I did not realize that people

2388
01:59:48,880 --> 01:59:51,520
Speaker 3: were not respecting me. And also, the thing is, sometimes

2389
01:59:51,960 --> 01:59:55,120
Speaker 3: people cross boundaries and they don't know they're crossing it

2390
01:59:55,200 --> 01:59:58,040
Speaker 3: because you never tell them, nor you do you express it.

2391
01:59:58,600 --> 02:00:01,040
Speaker 3: So it's not their fa all that they didn't know

2392
02:00:01,280 --> 02:00:03,600
Speaker 3: because no boundaries were set. You didn't set the boundaries,

2393
02:00:03,640 --> 02:00:06,040
Speaker 3: so they don't know the crossing them. And so a

2394
02:00:06,120 --> 02:00:08,520
Speaker 3: lot of times people like me get mad when I'm like,

2395
02:00:08,600 --> 02:00:10,560
Speaker 3: but you cross the boundary, They go, well, w's're no

2396
02:00:10,600 --> 02:00:13,800
Speaker 3: boundaries there. So some people do intentionally hurt you and

2397
02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:16,440
Speaker 3: some people do not intentionally hurt you, and you have

2398
02:00:16,600 --> 02:00:19,640
Speaker 3: to kind of navigate the difference between the two. And

2399
02:00:19,760 --> 02:00:22,000
Speaker 3: once you put those boundaries up, it makes it so

2400
02:00:22,280 --> 02:00:25,440
Speaker 3: much easier for you to navigate life. And it does.

2401
02:00:25,600 --> 02:00:30,720
Speaker 3: It reduces stress, It reduces pain, it reduces anxiety, it

2402
02:00:30,840 --> 02:00:33,400
Speaker 3: reduces the neatness within you to feel like you have

2403
02:00:33,560 --> 02:00:35,200
Speaker 3: to beat everything to everybody.

2404
02:00:35,760 --> 02:00:35,960
Speaker 1: You know.

2405
02:00:36,120 --> 02:00:38,760
Speaker 3: Sometimes, you know, I had to learn that my no

2406
02:00:39,040 --> 02:00:41,080
Speaker 3: is enough and my know is a complete sentence and

2407
02:00:41,160 --> 02:00:43,240
Speaker 3: not my mother fucking adult and I do not owe

2408
02:00:43,280 --> 02:00:46,760
Speaker 3: you an explanation or reason why I said no. You know,

2409
02:00:47,000 --> 02:00:49,040
Speaker 3: that was very hard because if I was like Roger

2410
02:00:49,080 --> 02:00:52,320
Speaker 3: gonna say no, I have to come with Well, but no, no, no, no, no,

2411
02:00:52,800 --> 02:00:53,880
Speaker 3: Why because I set so?

2412
02:00:54,040 --> 02:00:54,200
Speaker 2: Why?

2413
02:00:54,280 --> 02:00:57,680
Speaker 3: Because I'm grown. I don't owe you an explanation. You know,

2414
02:00:58,080 --> 02:01:00,160
Speaker 3: you know you're not paying me to be here. Is

2415
02:01:00,200 --> 02:01:03,000
Speaker 3: not a job. I'm doing this on my free time.

2416
02:01:03,080 --> 02:01:05,880
Speaker 3: And because it is my free time, that means I

2417
02:01:05,960 --> 02:01:07,920
Speaker 3: can do what I want to do. No, motherfucker, I

2418
02:01:08,000 --> 02:01:10,800
Speaker 3: feel like sleeping. No I want to watch Netflix. No,

2419
02:01:10,960 --> 02:01:13,360
Speaker 3: I want to do something else. Because the thing is,

2420
02:01:14,240 --> 02:01:15,520
Speaker 3: your time is precious.

2421
02:01:15,560 --> 02:01:16,120
Speaker 1: You don't.

2422
02:01:16,160 --> 02:01:18,440
Speaker 3: You don't have unlimited amount of time. The time you

2423
02:01:18,600 --> 02:01:21,280
Speaker 3: have here on earth is limited. So you have to

2424
02:01:21,360 --> 02:01:23,720
Speaker 3: think what am I going to do with the limited

2425
02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:26,120
Speaker 3: amount of time I have here. If I want to

2426
02:01:26,160 --> 02:01:28,360
Speaker 3: spend it with my family, I choose to do that.

2427
02:01:28,440 --> 02:01:29,720
Speaker 3: If I want to spend it with my friends, I

2428
02:01:29,840 --> 02:01:31,800
Speaker 3: choose to do that. If I want a rest, I

2429
02:01:32,000 --> 02:01:34,280
Speaker 3: choose to do that. And I have the right and

2430
02:01:34,400 --> 02:01:37,160
Speaker 3: authority as an adult to choose to do with my

2431
02:01:37,360 --> 02:01:40,920
Speaker 3: time what I will. You know, also, the world wants

2432
02:01:41,000 --> 02:01:43,280
Speaker 3: to take away and steal your time. The world wants

2433
02:01:43,320 --> 02:01:46,000
Speaker 3: to steal your time being on social media. The world

2434
02:01:46,080 --> 02:01:49,080
Speaker 3: wants to steal your time, you know, fighting and debating

2435
02:01:49,160 --> 02:01:51,280
Speaker 3: and doing this. All it is is just time stealing

2436
02:01:51,640 --> 02:01:53,760
Speaker 3: from doing the other things that you did that you

2437
02:01:53,920 --> 02:01:55,440
Speaker 3: actually probably need to do in life.

2438
02:01:56,320 --> 02:01:56,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2439
02:01:56,520 --> 02:01:59,040
Speaker 1: I think also like it's a process, so it is,

2440
02:01:59,320 --> 02:02:02,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's a constant work on product uh and

2441
02:02:02,200 --> 02:02:05,000
Speaker 1: thing like uh, because you're working on your inner voice

2442
02:02:05,120 --> 02:02:07,320
Speaker 1: when it comes to this stuff. And you know, and

2443
02:02:07,400 --> 02:02:10,240
Speaker 1: there's also that thing where if you don't express a

2444
02:02:10,320 --> 02:02:15,280
Speaker 1: boundary and someone quote unquote violates that unspoken boundary, the

2445
02:02:16,360 --> 02:02:19,760
Speaker 1: if you're still not securing yourself, you will attack them

2446
02:02:19,840 --> 02:02:23,080
Speaker 1: and the anger will lash out and it'll feel unwarranted,

2447
02:02:23,160 --> 02:02:26,680
Speaker 1: it'll feel you know, it'll feel messed up to that person.

2448
02:02:26,880 --> 02:02:29,440
Speaker 2: And I think that's why communication is so key here.

2449
02:02:30,960 --> 02:02:33,400
Speaker 3: About to say it and and and it is and

2450
02:02:34,320 --> 02:02:36,040
Speaker 3: I'm sorry I keep talking, but uh.

2451
02:02:36,280 --> 02:02:38,720
Speaker 1: But I apologize. Nobody want to hear what you got

2452
02:02:38,760 --> 02:02:43,680
Speaker 1: to say. This has been the black wet here y'all already.

2453
02:02:44,440 --> 02:02:45,560
Speaker 1: I think that's what we all.

2454
02:02:45,520 --> 02:02:48,880
Speaker 3: Came to say. I am not apologize, and I'm gonna

2455
02:02:48,880 --> 02:02:51,400
Speaker 3: say one more thing and then we could move on.

2456
02:02:52,120 --> 02:02:52,240
Speaker 1: Uh.

2457
02:02:52,320 --> 02:02:54,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I was that person, so I know how

2458
02:02:55,040 --> 02:02:58,440
Speaker 3: it is to have no boundaries and then everything was

2459
02:02:58,480 --> 02:03:02,000
Speaker 3: angry and everything was meanings, and everything was bitterness lashing

2460
02:03:02,080 --> 02:03:02,760
Speaker 3: out at people.

2461
02:03:02,880 --> 02:03:03,760
Speaker 4: So I do.

2462
02:03:05,760 --> 02:03:08,880
Speaker 1: Understand you weren't You weren't even angry and bitter. You

2463
02:03:09,120 --> 02:03:11,920
Speaker 1: always just come to me with it, like they wouldn't know.

2464
02:03:13,200 --> 02:03:15,000
Speaker 1: You would just come to me and be and I'm like,

2465
02:03:15,240 --> 02:03:17,600
Speaker 1: why I have nothing to do with this, you know,

2466
02:03:17,840 --> 02:03:20,480
Speaker 1: And it's just you know, and it's like, at some

2467
02:03:20,600 --> 02:03:23,320
Speaker 1: point you have to find out what it is in you.

2468
02:03:23,480 --> 02:03:25,480
Speaker 1: It's not that I wouldn't listen or I'd be dismissing it,

2469
02:03:25,560 --> 02:03:26,600
Speaker 1: like I ain't got nothing to do with this, but

2470
02:03:26,680 --> 02:03:30,760
Speaker 1: it would just be like you're expressing your inner monologue

2471
02:03:30,760 --> 02:03:32,080
Speaker 1: to me. But what are you going to do to

2472
02:03:32,120 --> 02:03:34,680
Speaker 1: break the cycle or this inner monologue you're having, because

2473
02:03:35,320 --> 02:03:38,160
Speaker 1: it's not like you're cussing them out, you know, you're

2474
02:03:38,200 --> 02:03:40,640
Speaker 1: coming to me with all this, like this person's pushing

2475
02:03:40,680 --> 02:03:42,360
Speaker 1: my boundaries and I'm about to do this thing I

2476
02:03:42,400 --> 02:03:42,920
Speaker 1: don't want to do.

2477
02:03:43,360 --> 02:03:43,680
Speaker 3: M M.

2478
02:03:44,040 --> 02:03:47,720
Speaker 1: You could have stopped this with no and for and

2479
02:03:47,840 --> 02:03:50,320
Speaker 1: it was a process. It still is a process. But

2480
02:03:51,080 --> 02:03:53,960
Speaker 1: you know, for a long time I was I was

2481
02:03:54,040 --> 02:03:56,600
Speaker 1: just like, well, Karen's gonna get angry in order to

2482
02:03:56,680 --> 02:03:59,600
Speaker 1: do the right thing and protect their boundaries. And I

2483
02:03:59,760 --> 02:04:03,560
Speaker 1: was like, that's fine, because if the other alternative is

2484
02:04:03,640 --> 02:04:05,960
Speaker 1: that you would just let people run over you. So

2485
02:04:06,360 --> 02:04:08,560
Speaker 1: if you need to get angry to stop people from

2486
02:04:08,600 --> 02:04:10,960
Speaker 1: running over you, and that's where you were for a

2487
02:04:11,040 --> 02:04:12,840
Speaker 1: long time, then that's okay.

2488
02:04:13,760 --> 02:04:16,680
Speaker 2: But at some point it's like, all right, you've been

2489
02:04:16,760 --> 02:04:21,160
Speaker 2: doing that. Now we're gonna take away the anger now.

2490
02:04:22,160 --> 02:04:22,320
Speaker 3: You know.

2491
02:04:22,480 --> 02:04:26,240
Speaker 1: It's like, if you practice martial arts, you can throw

2492
02:04:26,280 --> 02:04:29,760
Speaker 1: a punch with emotional content and there's anger behind it,

2493
02:04:30,520 --> 02:04:33,000
Speaker 1: or you can throw a punch from muscle memory and

2494
02:04:33,280 --> 02:04:36,320
Speaker 1: practice and there's just and the thing, the reason you're

2495
02:04:36,320 --> 02:04:38,200
Speaker 1: throwing that punch is no longer that you have to

2496
02:04:38,240 --> 02:04:40,840
Speaker 1: be angry at somebody, is because this is the right

2497
02:04:40,920 --> 02:04:42,440
Speaker 1: way to throw a punch, and this is the most

2498
02:04:42,480 --> 02:04:45,760
Speaker 1: efficient way to throw that punch. So, you know, a

2499
02:04:45,920 --> 02:04:49,000
Speaker 1: boxer doesn't even though they sell you to fight about

2500
02:04:49,040 --> 02:04:51,200
Speaker 1: how angry they are in the press, c press and stuff,

2501
02:04:51,680 --> 02:04:53,760
Speaker 1: a boxer would have fallen anyone you put in front

2502
02:04:53,760 --> 02:04:56,320
Speaker 1: of them. The boxer doesn't need to be angry at

2503
02:04:56,360 --> 02:04:59,160
Speaker 1: the person they're fighting. That's for us. They sell us

2504
02:04:59,240 --> 02:05:02,440
Speaker 1: that bullshit, Oh I'll kill his mama. Oh, I can't

2505
02:05:02,480 --> 02:05:04,040
Speaker 1: wait to see them fight. But when they get in

2506
02:05:04,120 --> 02:05:06,480
Speaker 1: that ring, they've been sparring against people, they've been fighting

2507
02:05:06,520 --> 02:05:10,520
Speaker 1: other people. It's about what is making me better against

2508
02:05:10,560 --> 02:05:12,720
Speaker 1: what's making this person better. And then we fight, and

2509
02:05:12,840 --> 02:05:15,920
Speaker 1: that's and that's the thing. And I'm not saying kind

2510
02:05:15,960 --> 02:05:18,080
Speaker 1: of compare saying no to a fight, but just the

2511
02:05:18,200 --> 02:05:21,000
Speaker 1: point being like it's the practice of the thing that

2512
02:05:21,160 --> 02:05:23,680
Speaker 1: makes it work. And so at some point maybe you

2513
02:05:23,840 --> 02:05:27,480
Speaker 1: started with I need to be angry. Now I'm just saying,

2514
02:05:27,760 --> 02:05:29,480
Speaker 1: let's put that part down. You don't need to be

2515
02:05:29,520 --> 02:05:31,720
Speaker 1: angry to say no anymore. You can just say no

2516
02:05:31,920 --> 02:05:34,400
Speaker 1: because you're protecting yourself and it's the right thing to do.

2517
02:05:34,960 --> 02:05:38,040
Speaker 1: And there doesn't have to be any emotional content to

2518
02:05:38,160 --> 02:05:39,960
Speaker 1: the no. Yes, yes.

2519
02:05:40,120 --> 02:05:42,640
Speaker 3: And it really did take me a while to get there.

2520
02:05:42,720 --> 02:05:47,200
Speaker 3: And I also blamed other people for crossing boundaries that

2521
02:05:47,280 --> 02:05:48,800
Speaker 3: they didn't know it was there. I did a lot

2522
02:05:48,880 --> 02:05:52,560
Speaker 3: of self blaming and self sabotaging of myself for not

2523
02:05:52,800 --> 02:05:54,800
Speaker 3: knowing to put up these boundaries. But you know what

2524
02:05:54,960 --> 02:05:57,720
Speaker 3: you know when you know, Like like if you don't know,

2525
02:05:57,840 --> 02:06:00,760
Speaker 3: you don't know. And I can speak for me not

2526
02:06:00,880 --> 02:06:02,640
Speaker 3: having any brothers and sisters, I never had to set

2527
02:06:02,720 --> 02:06:04,920
Speaker 3: those boundaries up because I didn't have other children than

2528
02:06:04,960 --> 02:06:07,680
Speaker 3: people around me. Everybody was old, so I didn't have

2529
02:06:07,800 --> 02:06:10,120
Speaker 3: other people around me. While I was forced to set

2530
02:06:10,160 --> 02:06:12,440
Speaker 3: those boundaries about a really early age. When people have

2531
02:06:12,520 --> 02:06:14,480
Speaker 3: brothers and sisters, A lot of them, not all, but

2532
02:06:14,600 --> 02:06:16,600
Speaker 3: you know a lot of them have those boundaries because

2533
02:06:16,600 --> 02:06:18,520
Speaker 3: they are dealing with other people all the time and

2534
02:06:18,560 --> 02:06:21,680
Speaker 3: growing up in various different households, boundaries that I was

2535
02:06:21,800 --> 02:06:25,640
Speaker 3: never required to have, in skills that I never homed

2536
02:06:25,640 --> 02:06:29,640
Speaker 3: in on. And so, like I said, you sit there

2537
02:06:29,680 --> 02:06:31,000
Speaker 3: and you think, well, if I would it, could have,

2538
02:06:31,040 --> 02:06:33,560
Speaker 3: should have, would have, could have should have doesn't mean anything.

2539
02:06:33,920 --> 02:06:35,920
Speaker 3: I know what I know when I know it, and

2540
02:06:36,360 --> 02:06:39,440
Speaker 3: that's very important. And once you learn that, you will

2541
02:06:39,480 --> 02:06:41,640
Speaker 3: stop reflecting on the past and the history on what

2542
02:06:41,760 --> 02:06:44,400
Speaker 3: it's done. You could say, let's move forward and let's

2543
02:06:44,480 --> 02:06:46,680
Speaker 3: fix it. Moving forward, all right?

2544
02:06:46,960 --> 02:06:49,680
Speaker 2: Last thing, we got something in the mail, because I'm

2545
02:06:49,680 --> 02:06:51,400
Speaker 2: sure we're all tired of here. It can't talk right,

2546
02:06:51,560 --> 02:06:52,919
Speaker 2: I mean, god, damn.

2547
02:06:54,960 --> 02:06:58,640
Speaker 1: Here, it's just a rod show.

2548
02:06:58,920 --> 02:07:02,280
Speaker 2: Really, if we think about all that talking I did

2549
02:07:02,360 --> 02:07:03,240
Speaker 2: today and didn't.

2550
02:07:03,000 --> 02:07:06,200
Speaker 3: Apologize women be talking.

2551
02:07:06,520 --> 02:07:08,640
Speaker 1: I know I was talking for a long periods of time,

2552
02:07:08,760 --> 02:07:12,640
Speaker 1: never had to apologize. But Karen, you you accept your apology.

2553
02:07:14,120 --> 02:07:14,920
Speaker 1: You can't take it back.

2554
02:07:15,400 --> 02:07:17,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take I'm gonna take my apologic back. I

2555
02:07:17,560 --> 02:07:18,760
Speaker 3: don't apogast for nothing.

2556
02:07:19,000 --> 02:07:23,240
Speaker 1: We got a package in the physical mail for my girl, Shannon,

2557
02:07:23,360 --> 02:07:25,880
Speaker 1: who says, dear Rod and Karen just wanted to take

2558
02:07:25,920 --> 02:07:28,320
Speaker 1: this opportunity to formally congratulate you all in your success.

2559
02:07:28,440 --> 02:07:30,440
Speaker 1: The two of you deserve every bit of it. I

2560
02:07:30,480 --> 02:07:33,040
Speaker 1: appreciate you all for the work you do, but also

2561
02:07:33,520 --> 02:07:35,640
Speaker 1: just for being good humans and good friends. Wishing you

2562
02:07:35,760 --> 02:07:39,960
Speaker 1: the best, Shanner, thank you. And she also gave us

2563
02:07:40,080 --> 02:07:44,040
Speaker 1: this how to Be Anti Racist a book by Evram

2564
02:07:44,240 --> 02:07:51,080
Speaker 1: X Kennedy. Kenny Kennedy man, I think that. Oh, and

2565
02:07:51,200 --> 02:07:55,680
Speaker 1: she gave us a sticker Destiny Art Center. I believe

2566
02:07:55,760 --> 02:07:58,360
Speaker 1: she works there with the keyids, with the babies.

2567
02:07:59,680 --> 02:08:01,120
Speaker 2: And it's I says Rod.

2568
02:08:01,200 --> 02:08:03,880
Speaker 1: I think you and Abram have similar views on racism

2569
02:08:03,960 --> 02:08:06,200
Speaker 1: and policy, and I think you'll appreciate how he we

2570
02:08:06,360 --> 02:08:08,600
Speaker 1: use his personal experience into the academic views.

2571
02:08:09,840 --> 02:08:12,520
Speaker 2: Hope you enjoy Shannon. Well, Shannon, I'm gonna tell you

2572
02:08:12,600 --> 02:08:15,360
Speaker 2: truth I don't read books that are on kindle.

2573
02:08:15,440 --> 02:08:17,480
Speaker 1: But I bought the kindle for this already, So it's

2574
02:08:17,520 --> 02:08:19,720
Speaker 1: really like you're gifted me what I bought myself.

2575
02:08:19,800 --> 02:08:21,520
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying now.

2576
02:08:21,600 --> 02:08:24,200
Speaker 1: I also did by Pierce Morgan's How to Be a

2577
02:08:24,480 --> 02:08:27,520
Speaker 1: Racist No for It written by Sharon Osbourne, because I

2578
02:08:27,720 --> 02:08:30,520
Speaker 1: like to have balance in my life. Okay, you know

2579
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I get a little bit of this,

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02:08:32,760 --> 02:08:33,960
Speaker 1: a little bit of that.

2581
02:08:34,520 --> 02:08:36,400
Speaker 2: Nope, So I'm learning.

2582
02:08:36,880 --> 02:08:38,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to go and delete that off the

2583
02:08:38,560 --> 02:08:41,080
Speaker 3: kindle or whatever you got. I get done, sh ac

2584
02:08:41,120 --> 02:08:42,160
Speaker 3: count So I'm gonna delete it.

2585
02:08:42,240 --> 02:08:45,080
Speaker 2: When I get done, I'm gonna know how to do how.

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02:08:45,800 --> 02:08:47,520
Speaker 3: He ain't gonna know what happened to it. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: take it off.

2588
02:08:48,000 --> 02:08:49,720
Speaker 1: Because I'm trying to get my I'm trying to work

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Speaker 1: my racism.

2590
02:08:50,800 --> 02:08:52,680
Speaker 3: This is not the balance and the boundaries I was

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02:08:52,720 --> 02:08:53,240
Speaker 3: talking about.

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02:08:53,280 --> 02:08:55,480
Speaker 1: So my racism is falling off a little bit the

2593
02:08:55,600 --> 02:08:57,800
Speaker 1: last couple of years, and I gotta get I used

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02:08:57,800 --> 02:09:00,360
Speaker 1: to be tight. Okay, it's time to get it back

2595
02:09:00,400 --> 02:09:03,560
Speaker 1: on these reps and uh, you know, get to like

2596
02:09:03,640 --> 02:09:05,560
Speaker 1: when I see black people nil before the National anthem.

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02:09:05,560 --> 02:09:06,840
Speaker 2: I don't even call them in words no more.

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02:09:07,040 --> 02:09:08,080
Speaker 1: That is you see what I'm saying.

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02:09:08,120 --> 02:09:09,120
Speaker 2: I just said the N word.

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02:09:09,280 --> 02:09:11,520
Speaker 1: Just the fact that I said in word and not

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02:09:11,720 --> 02:09:14,880
Speaker 1: nigga should tell you a lot about where I'm coming from.

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02:09:15,200 --> 02:09:17,000
Speaker 3: I will not be spotting you on this one, sir,

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02:09:17,240 --> 02:09:17,920
Speaker 3: or nigg.

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02:09:17,680 --> 02:09:23,640
Speaker 1: Ruh, as I say in Dutch. All right, y'all, we'll

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02:09:23,640 --> 02:09:26,800
Speaker 1: be back tomorrow. Thanks for listening. We appreciate y'all.

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02:09:27,280 --> 02:09:30,160
Speaker 2: And and I thought we didn't have anything to say

2607
02:09:30,200 --> 02:09:31,320
Speaker 2: for feedback and turned out.

2608
02:09:31,240 --> 02:09:31,720
Speaker 1: To be along.

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02:09:31,960 --> 02:09:33,240
Speaker 3: We had a lot to say. Apparently.

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02:09:33,360 --> 02:09:35,760
Speaker 1: All right, y'all, we'll talk to you later. Peace. Until then,

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 3: I love you too.