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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriot gets unfiltered, and we're at twelve point seven,

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Speaker 1: and you ended up being right there. Yeah, I was

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Speaker 1: right on the Why is that the reason why you

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Speaker 1: brought it up? Yeah, and went all cousin Finney, that

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Speaker 1: don't shake you ahead at me. I didn't say it,

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Speaker 1: I didn't hit what I said yet had a million interceptions.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't playing. I have no respect for zone corners.

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Speaker 1: Every time they kick off and I hold my breath.

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Speaker 1: I know they don't kick off offten, but twenty times

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Speaker 1: they've thrown the ball downfield. Patricia couldn't get the play

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Speaker 1: in on the next play, like, we're all so excited.

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Speaker 1: I think I think had been end of the year.

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Speaker 1: We get another play. No, let's let's let's not be

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Speaker 1: that nice about it, all right, intelligently on the eighty

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Speaker 1: three Patriots. How many bud lights deep were you when

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Speaker 1: you watching that game? He was already nine at that point,

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Speaker 1: already had four kids like you. It's a tough way

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Speaker 1: to live. Oh yeah, this is we're living it right now, Mike,

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Speaker 1: I see a stack of papers in front of you

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Speaker 1: offensive points the Patriots of Oh Fred, Fred, Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: this is Patriot's Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan. All right, welcome

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Speaker 1: to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here at Gette Stadium

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Speaker 1: and Bill Belichick just wrapped up his first press conference

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Speaker 1: for this week. There was no availability up until now,

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Speaker 1: and of course a lot of the questions, not all,

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Speaker 1: were centered around, you know, preparing for the bills and

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Speaker 1: And I think the theme, you know, there's been different

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Speaker 1: theme was we're doing the best we can. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: so probably highlights. Just the news it's on the TV

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Speaker 1: right now with good positive update on tomorrow hamlin um

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Speaker 1: because he's uh, I don't know what the word is intact,

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Speaker 1: for his lungs to to continue. Hell, but just good

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Speaker 1: We'll see, I guess this afternoon, how that'll come together. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll have Evan. I'll be here later and he'll recap.

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Speaker 1: He was at the press conference, so he'll give a recap.

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Speaker 1: But you know, from what we listen to, um, like

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Speaker 1: I said, it's you know, we're doing the best we can.

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Speaker 1: It's unprecedented. It's unchartered waters um unchartered, correct, waters not chartered,

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Speaker 1: And like he said, we're just going through it. Um.

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Speaker 1: Nobody asked, you know, has any specific player come to

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Speaker 1: everything we can gather, the game's on Sunday at one. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And there's you know, in addition to the updates on

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Speaker 1: on Hamlin that Mike just read, there was a I

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Speaker 1: think Mike Giardi. I'm not sure if he was the

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Speaker 1: it's a tough situation. I thought Bill expressed it very

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Speaker 1: the best way we can pay tribute to Damar and

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Speaker 1: what you were trying to do yesterday with your touchdown

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Speaker 1: that Yeah, um, I get where you got your twelve

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Speaker 1: point two five per game touched. But it ends up

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Speaker 1: the emailer was right. It's really misleading because you completely

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Speaker 1: ignore the field goals, which the should count as part

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Speaker 1: of the offensive production, which is what some of them.

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Speaker 1: Fred was asking. Yeah, yeah, some of them should. Okay, well, okay,

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Speaker 1: I understand. I understand what you're saying, and my geekness

427
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Speaker 1: is going to get us there. But basically, I the Patriots,

428
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Speaker 1: if you include the field goals. The emailers right, they

429
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Speaker 1: score eighteen points per game like seventeen point nine four

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Speaker 1: feet pop four. But um, but when you I did that,

431
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Speaker 1: I have no life. And I went through every single

432
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Speaker 1: scoring play yesterday and try to fish out which one

433
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Speaker 1: should probably instead be attributed to the defense. Not just

434
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Speaker 1: defensive scores, but offensive scores that we understand. You know,

435
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Speaker 1: Brandon Schooler sets you up at the opponent's ten yard line,

436
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Speaker 1: or Jonathan Jonas interception with you it like seventeen four

437
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Speaker 1: players later, you know, you get a touchdown. I think

438
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Speaker 1: that those are defensive scores that masquerade as offensive scores,

439
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Speaker 1: and so I some of this is subjective, but when yeah,

440
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Speaker 1: but everybody's counting those, so you can't take them out

441
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Speaker 1: of ours, and every other team in the NFL counts them,

442
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Speaker 1: so you have to do what everybody else. I'm not

443
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Speaker 1: doing a relative Patriots to others. I'm trying to under Okay,

444
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Speaker 1: all right, if you just look at the Patriots themselves,

445
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Speaker 1: I think that the offensive production overall ends up dropping

446
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Speaker 1: down to about twelve point seven five points. Like it's

447
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Speaker 1: well that was the number was No, No, it a

448
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Speaker 1: different way. No, the numbers sorry twelt two five. What

449
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: you guys were saying was, but imagine how much lower

450
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Speaker 1: it is than that when you take out no special

451
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Speaker 1: we weren't no dues. Took all the defensive touchdowns out

452
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Speaker 1: he has I can still I can see his highlights

453
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Speaker 1: right now. He can show you on them. He took

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Speaker 1: all of the ones that were counted as defensive touchdowns

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Speaker 1: out when he described right, that are right. And his

456
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 1: number was lower than yours twelve point two. And his

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Speaker 1: numbers incorrect because he didn't take field goals into account. Okay,

458
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Speaker 1: so yours is twelve point seven. So we got half

459
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Speaker 1: a point more. That's twelve points. Now it's eighteen when

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Speaker 1: you actually count overall off into production. It's twelve point

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Speaker 1: seventy five when you when you actually just take out

462
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Speaker 1: the sort of mass defensive and specialty sports. Right, So

463
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Speaker 1: we ended up with the same spot. No, he's saying,

464
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Speaker 1: if he adds, I know what he's saying. It's not hard.

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Speaker 1: It's not brain surgery. I understand what he's saying. It's it.

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Speaker 1: But it came out the same thing that Mike did

467
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Speaker 1: without going through all that painstaking process. But to me,

468
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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if we're correct because we don't have

469
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Speaker 1: anything to compare it. And that's the question that you

470
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Speaker 1: were looking for, right, right, right, It's not the same,

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Speaker 1: but I like, I hear what you say. You're getting

472
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Speaker 1: into it. There've only been three pick three, actually four,

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Speaker 1: Well there's a there was a scoopid score. That's kind

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Speaker 1: of pick threes. He said, oh, pick three, pick three. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would argue this. I think there was more than

476
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Speaker 1: three pick threes in the Detroit game alone, but I,

477
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Speaker 1: you know whatever, in the Detroit game there was one

478
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Speaker 1: and that was the Jonathan Jones interception of the offense

479
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 1: drove for eighty nine yards. So that's like the least

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Speaker 1: three once they had one touchdown in the game. Okay,

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Speaker 1: well what I'm glad I went to the call, Speed,

482
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Speaker 1: Thanks thanks for the call. Yeah, like yeah, I like

483
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Speaker 1: I apologize for giving everyone the headache yesterday. Like I

484
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Speaker 1: just think I just say okay without even like going

485
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: we just know from the eye test that true offensive

486
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Speaker 1: touchdowns have been at a premium this year. And what

487
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Speaker 1: I was trying to get at, like Fred's question was

488
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Speaker 1: something very specific that we don't have because there's no

489
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Speaker 1: one that's going through every team's drives to determine what

490
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Speaker 1: we like, you know, Speed did it for the Patriots.

491
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Speaker 1: Speed did a lot of detailed research there and figured

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Speaker 1: out that. And I know the play he's talking about,

493
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: like the ball bounces off of Gunnar Rolshovski's face mask

494
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Speaker 1: and you take over the ten yard line. I have

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Speaker 1: a hard time calling that an offensive touchdown. Everybody else

496
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Speaker 1: who tabulates that is calling it an offensive touchdown, and

497
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Speaker 1: that's fair. So if they are, then let's do it

498
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Speaker 1: and let's see. But they're not talking about all the

499
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Speaker 1: other teams. They're not doing that at all. We're doing

500
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Speaker 1: it for the page, I know. But but my point is,

501
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Speaker 1: I thought there was a stat and there isn't. Where

502
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Speaker 1: the DVOA takes the points, they do the yards like

503
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Speaker 1: I got, like I got all kinds of tweets about

504
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Speaker 1: this yesterday. I'm sure you did too. I know what

505
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: the numbers that you were giving yesterday represent. Like people

506
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: are trying to explain it to me, you know, because

507
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Speaker 1: I'm a dinosaur, I don't understand things. I thought that

508
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Speaker 1: there was a mechanism with all of these analytics that

509
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Speaker 1: factored in such things, and evidently there isn't. It's it's

510
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Speaker 1: left here interpretation. And like I said, Fred might look

511
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Speaker 1: at a touchdown and say well, that's an offensive score.

512
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Speaker 1: And you might look at it, Mike and say, well,

513
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Speaker 1: really they went seven yards, it's not really an offensive score, right,

514
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Speaker 1: But at the same time, I don't want to penalize

515
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Speaker 1: my offense because my defense is really good, exactly, you know,

516
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Speaker 1: So like that, yeah, but like, and I think reasonable

517
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Speaker 1: minds can agree. When you recover a fumble off a

518
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Speaker 1: face mask of a punt returner at the ten yard

519
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: line and you score, that's really not much of an accomplishment.

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Speaker 1: You could count it if you want. Well, when you're

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Speaker 1: in like we are, on the red zone, it is. Yeah, Like,

522
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Speaker 1: I think the bigger problem in the red zone is

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Speaker 1: the lack of the the visits to said red zone.

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Speaker 1: Then it is how many times you score when you're there. Yeah,

525
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: like that's the problem. Let's go to Eddie in La.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Eddie? What's up? Guys? So I was listening

527
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Speaker 1: yesterday's podcast this morning. Yeah, and I love that you

528
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Speaker 1: guys talked about the future of the team. So I

529
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: just wanted to say some things as well. Okay, I

530
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Speaker 1: think that if Bill doesn't go out and spend the

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Speaker 1: money on a wide receiver one, then the rebuild for

532
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 1: the offense isn't gonna come as quick as we all

533
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Speaker 1: hope it will, especially since next season the only receiver

534
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Speaker 1: coming back is Thornton most likely at least. Also because

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Speaker 1: I think there's if there's a good looking tackle in

536
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Speaker 1: the draft, I mean, wherever we fall in the draft,

537
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Speaker 1: I think we should just go for that tackle instead

538
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Speaker 1: of flipping the coin on a wide receiver. You know,

539
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Speaker 1: I don't want another Nikkia Harry scenario. Yeah. Well you know,

540
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Speaker 1: but even if go ahead, even if there's no tackle

541
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Speaker 1: out there, like if there's a defensive stud that comes

542
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Speaker 1: like lands on us, like, I think we should just

543
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: go on that defensive stud. Also instead of a white,

544
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: I would say, if there's a stud that's available to us,

545
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: just get them. I don't care where, you know, just

546
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: get the stud. Um. But you know, I hear what

547
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: you're saying about tackle. The thing is, if if you're

548
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Speaker 1: gonna get a stud tackle, they're usually up top two,

549
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: you know, within the top twenty. Um. So there's a

550
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: few of them this year. I mean I'm starting you

551
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: can get a Sebasti Vomer in the second round and

552
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: he turns out to be a good tackle. Yeah, you know,

553
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: but the Blue Chippers are are They're gonna be going

554
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: high too, you know. Yeah, so Eddie, I appreciate you know,

555
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: so basically it's I mean stuff. Yeah, he's saying this

556
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: offensive rebuild is going to be longer than we think

557
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: it's gonna be because we're kind of starting over at

558
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: ride receiver next year a little bit. I mean, I

559
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: think that goes to, you know, the philosophy of how

560
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: do you how do you want to get that receiver?

561
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Speaker 1: I mean, he wants to go trade for one. I'm

562
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Speaker 1: sure there's arguments to be made to draft one of

563
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Speaker 1: these guys this year. I know yesterday Evan was talking

564
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Speaker 1: a little bit about there's not a great top of

565
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Speaker 1: the draft of the receivers. But I mean I agree

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Speaker 1: with the general point. And I mean I wouldn't just

567
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Speaker 1: say receiver, like I think you need, you know, like

568
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Speaker 1: if you could find it a tight end, that's a

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Speaker 1: game changer, you know what I mean, Like if you

570
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: could find I think the Patriots they had Gronk and

571
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Speaker 1: Edelman and you know that wasn't kind of the usual

572
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: setup you have where the best guy is this big

573
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: stud outside wide receiver. I mean, I think you just

574
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: need star players. You need guys who can who can

575
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Speaker 1: deliver in these big moments. And you know, I think

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Speaker 1: that's the bigger point of just what they don't really

577
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: have right now. Of you know, the tight ends are okay,

578
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: the receivers are okay, the running backs you have some positivity.

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Speaker 1: You'd love to see what they look like with an

580
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: actual passing attack and some better, more consistent blocking up front.

581
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Speaker 1: But I and I agree with the overall points they

582
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: need they need some big pieces. So, by the way,

583
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Speaker 1: I finally found something real quick on the red zone. Okay,

584
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: there's one team in football who's been to the red

585
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: zone less than the Patriots this year. You know who

586
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: it is? Cleveland, Denver, Denver. Oh yeah, it's the only

587
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: offense that's actually been to the red zone fewer times

588
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Speaker 1: than the Patriots. So a lot of like stat based

589
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: people will tell you, like the percentage itself for the Patriots,

590
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: it's a small sample size. Yeah yeah, Like the bigger

591
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Speaker 1: problem is they don't get there two point six red

592
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Speaker 1: zone possessions. They don't a game. They don't. It's tied

593
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Speaker 1: for twenty ninths with Washington and Tennessee. They don't stack

594
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Speaker 1: offensive place together right now, Tennessee is a dynamite red

595
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Speaker 1: zone team, but they don't get there. That's why they

596
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Speaker 1: don't score. Right. Um, While we were talking, Florio from

597
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk came out with a report that he's

598
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Speaker 1: hearing that the league is going to call the Cincinnati

599
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Speaker 1: Bills game a no contest, which is the same as

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Speaker 1: you a thing with a tie. Well that I don't

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Speaker 1: is it? Yes? Is calling it a no contest different

602
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Speaker 1: than calling it a tie? Yeah, I don't know. It's

603
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: it's the same thing. It's the same. It's good. Well,

604
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Speaker 1: but I think a tie the stats recorded, and like,

605
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Speaker 1: wouldn't you You can't just say it's a tie, right,

606
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it would just be zero zero. So I

607
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: guess no contest is saying that anything going to happen

608
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: in the game doesn't so all the stats go away. Well,

609
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: the stats are irrelevant. They played ten minutes. No, I know,

610
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: But but somebody had a touchdown that could add that

611
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: could be the touchdown. He needs to have an incentive earned.

612
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: Oh well, you know, I mean the team owner should

613
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: be excommunicated from the league if on a technicality you

614
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: didn't give a guy. They're a difference between calling it

615
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: a no contest in time. I'm just talking about the standings.

616
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the numbers, like you know, someone's

617
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: fantasy league. I'm sure was was really upset by that,

618
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: and I'm serious, and that's I'm not making light of it.

619
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of money for the people involved the

620
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: betting in the fantasy and the gambling and all that.

621
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Speaker 1: I get it. It's a big business. But in terms

622
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: of the standings, if you're giving them ties, then they

623
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: stay tied. If you're giving it no contest, that means

624
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: the game didn't happen. They're still tied. Like. It doesn't

625
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: change the standings, right, and they're gonna end up both

626
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: being still behind Kansas City with a tie or a

627
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: no contest if Kansas City wins. Do you know what

628
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Because Kansas City is gonna go fourteen and three,

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Speaker 1: and Buffalo if they beat the Patriots, is gonna be

630
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Speaker 1: thirteen and three. Yeah, yep. In Cincinnati will be twelve

631
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: and four. So a tie. You know, if you're twelve

632
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: four and one or thirteen three and one, you're still

633
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: behind fourteen and three Kansas City. That's all I'm saying.

634
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you call it a tie or

635
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: no contest that I'm seeing. Schefter two, I saw a

636
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: speculating conference championships might be neutral site. That's kind of

637
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: that's kind of interesting. Yeah, I've heard, you know, can

638
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: we get back to the facacta things? Sure? Yeah, that's

639
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: one thing I've heard thrown out there is like, okay,

640
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: so Buffalo if if Buffalo is the two and Cincinnati's

641
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: the three, you know, so Kansas City has kind of

642
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: gifted the one seed. So maybe as a as a

643
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: you know, as a gesture tribute. Yeah, you say, Okay,

644
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: well you're the one, you get the buy, but when

645
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: we get to the AFC Championship, they don't. They shouldn't

646
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: have to travel to Kansas City, play somewhere else gets stadium.

647
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: I don't like. I don't know if I like that,

648
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: But again, I'm not here to shoot down any ideas.

649
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: In such an unprecedented time, I think people are really

650
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: trying to come up with different scenarios that might be

651
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: you know, interesting. Do you think they decide anything before

652
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: the games go off Sunday? Do you think anything he

653
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: has decided with this game before these games are are

654
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: played or not played on Sunday? I don't know, but

655
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think you No, the problem

656
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: is no matter what happens on Sunday, it can't get resolved. Yeah,

657
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: it's just a question of what's your real problem because

658
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: if you know, if if Kansas City does lose, well,

659
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: Cincinnati and Buffalo still have the same chance to get

660
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: the number one seed. Yeah. Now if Kansas City and

661
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: Cincinnati lose and Buffalo wins, then that's different. Now you're

662
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: just talking about the two and three seed. Cincinnati could

663
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: get the three that you know, the two seed over

664
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: Kansas City. Yeah, and that's why it's like it almost

665
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: feels more fair to decide now before you know who

666
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: is like who has the problem? You know, like who

667
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: who's get screwed in this situation? Like based on the results,

668
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: is it Kansas City that they you know, are getting

669
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: it gifted that they get or is it Buffalo not

670
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: getting even a chance to play for it when they

671
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: could have? Um, you know, like it's just I feel

672
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: like they do it after the games, then it's going

673
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: to feel like it might favor certain teams. But it's complicated.

674
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 1: I don't there's no there's no easy answer. It's amazing

675
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: that like this is like I would have thought for

676
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: sure something like this would have happened during all that

677
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: COVID stuff, and somehow you made it through COVID without

678
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: ever having to get this crazy where you're trying like

679
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: we don't know what the answer is, Like, I mean,

680
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: it was always like, we'll just play Tuesday and then

681
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: you know, but we never got to like the playoffs,

682
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: and then something happened that threw everything off. Eighty five

683
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 1: five Pats five hundred. Let's go to Travis in North Carolina. Hey, Travis, Hello, Hey,

684
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: but I got a question, and I do all I'm

685
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: not trying to come off as a sense to the

686
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 1: mar Hamlet. In order the Bills, they're going to play

687
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: the game, and the Bill and the Patriots need to

688
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: win to make the playoffs. Ye, So if your Bill

689
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: and you win the toss, do you go on offense

690
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: first to try to get a like cheat touchdown? I

691
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: guess you could say, because serians, the first time the

692
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: Bill has been on the field, I missed that. So

693
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: if you win the toss, do you go on offense first,

694
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: because maybe they're a little not ready to go right

695
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: off out of the gate and try to take advantage

696
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, you can the other way. Yeah, I

697
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: would go to the other one. And maybe they're not

698
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: written into you apply. I think both of you guys

699
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: brought up you know, does Josh Allen try to be

700
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: even more Superman and he gives you one? He gives

701
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 1: you one early because he's not quite ready to go. Yeah.

702
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: So but Travis, I you don't have to have the

703
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: preamble of like I'm not trying to be You're talking

704
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: about the game and you're talking about strategy, and there's

705
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that, right I Like, I mean, I mean,

706
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: it's it's a difference for the different Look now, it's

707
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: I just I wonder if I mean, you know, are

708
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: you gonna learn anything about the Patriots in this game?

709
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: You're gonna learn anything about the Bills? Like it feels

710
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: like you already know what's going to be said based

711
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: on if the Patriots win this game or the Bills

712
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 1: win this game. You know everything that's gonna be Why

713
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: that happened, like you know what I mean? Yeah, real quick,

714
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: I knew I would screw this up if I kept

715
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: talking about it. So you said, do they wait till

716
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: week eighteen? And I think they do? And the one

717
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: advantage that you could have, however, remote is if Kansas

718
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: City and Cincinnati lose and Buffalo wins, it's neat. Yeah,

719
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: it's Buffalo one, Kansas City two, Cincinnati three. That's the

720
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 1: way the records would be, regardless of what would happen

721
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 1: and that buff in that Buffalo Cincinnati game, right because

722
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: if if because Cincinnati is a game behind, you know,

723
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: they would need to win and have Kansas City lose

724
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: to tie Kansas City and they have, you know, because

725
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: they have the tie River who Cincinnati is playing, right, Yeah, Now,

726
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: most likely both of those teams are going to win

727
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: their games, Kansas City in Cincinnati. But listen these there's

728
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: upsets everywhere. Yeah. Um, let's go to Daniel in the UK.

729
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: What's up, Daniel? Hi, Just sort of circling back to

730
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 1: the conversation from ages ago. You Paul was complaining about

731
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: not having stats that corrected for sort of if you

732
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: arrived or see the five yard line were expected touchdown,

733
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: you're most likely going to score it though. Ye, So

734
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 1: there's a website. This isn't something I run NFL index

735
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: dot com, which I think is getting to the heart

736
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: of what Paul's after, where you can sort of apply

737
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: some filters. So if you type it in, you can

738
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: sort of choose which team, what year, which weeks, and

739
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: if you just go to the bottom, you can sort

740
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: it by the offense. And so if you're if you're

741
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 1: given them ball in the five yard line, you normally

742
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: score let's say five points there, and if you get

743
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: given the ball in the twenty, you know, we score four.

744
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: So I think that sort of addresses what you're going for,

745
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: and then you can sort of see this season the

746
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: Patriots after twenty sixth offense, so we're still not very good. Yeah, yeah, Okay, Well,

747
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 1: it's just I feel like this is becoming an NFL

748
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: index Daniel NFL index dot Com. Okay, it's all right,

749
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: thank you, we'll tell Evan about it. Thanks. I just

750
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 1: feel like it's devolving into like how many different ways

751
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: can you say the Patriots offense sucks? Like how many

752
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 1: different stats can you like? I mean, like it's just simple.

753
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: It's like average drive time of possession twenty eighth, average

754
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 1: place per drive twenty nine, average yards prodrive twenty seventh,

755
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: average point you know, twenty fifth, I mean, right, And

756
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: that's why. Yeah, and again I'm not making fun of

757
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: fred because Freddie wanted to sort of like get a

758
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: specific point total. Yeah, you know, comparison with the other teams.

759
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: I think the greater thing is what are they in points?

760
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 1: Like counting everything? Oh just overall twenty six or sorry,

761
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: seventeenth seventeenth with seven defensive touchdowns. You see that that's

762
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: higher than I thought it would be. Oh no, with

763
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: this going on defense every week. Friend. But oh so

764
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: that includes thecludes everything, everything, everything. That's what I'm saying.

765
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: Like that tells you what the caller just explained, right, Like,

766
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: they're in the twenties and every low twenty every offensive

767
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: metric you could come up with, right, third down yards,

768
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: time of possession, points, drive, drive time, you know, like

769
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: three and outs like every like anything you can come

770
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: up with. They're like somewhere between twenty five and thirty two. Yeah,

771
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: except for turnovers twelve points, and you know the turnovers

772
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: thing is to me, I find it interesting. Let's go

773
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: to William and philam what's up? William? Hey for it?

774
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: How are you doing good? All right? My questions for uh,

775
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: Paul whatnot? Um? But how did I say? Did all right?

776
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: This is the off season question basically, so it has

777
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: nothing to do far with the Bills game and the

778
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: faces no whatever like that. So I just want you

779
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: to do just open your mind a little bit, Paul

780
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: with this one, Okay, So I'll try, um, you know, okay,

781
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: so we all know that Bill might not be highly

782
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: on Mac Jones, right, and you know there's a little

783
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: thing's going on with the Ravens whatnot? I mean, before

784
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: you blew me off, I already know what wait with

785
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not blowing you up with who the Ravens? Okay,

786
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: So it's a Lamar question because then ye right right, okay,

787
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: So here's here's the question with it. So all right,

788
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: so you already got to see Josh Allen already, okay,

789
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: and you already know he's a pain in your you

790
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: being Bill Belichick, right, and now I think Lamar might

791
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: wind up with the Dolphins though, But if something like

792
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 1: that happened, would you want to run interference and get Lamar?

793
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: That way you don't have to deal with Lamar and

794
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: johnsh Allen because you're not big on Mac even. Yes,

795
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: you diminished Mac though, but maybe you're not sold on him.

796
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: Maybe you're not you you don't like the wine and

797
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: and stuff, and then doing you might want to you

798
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean, The number one one reason why

799
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: you would get Lamar Jackson is because you think you

800
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: can win a super Bowl with him, not to run

801
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: interference with another team, so you have to you know,

802
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: that might be the side benefit of getting him, that

803
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: another team in your division wanted him and you got him.

804
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: But number one, you have to believe in him. You

805
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: have to believe in him. You have to believe that

806
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: and getting this guy, I can redesign my offense and

807
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: I can want that part of you. And that's what

808
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: Ever and I were talking about yesterday, and I got

809
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: a question about it in the mailback this week. I

810
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: don't think it's like it's he is a priority. He's

811
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: going to be the crown jewel of free agency, right right.

812
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: I don't think it's ridiculous to suggest that your team

813
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: is not sold on its quarterback and is a very

814
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: good quarterback who will be available, especially what's what happened

815
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: the last five years. You know, maybe ten years ago

816
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: it would have been silly to discuss this, but now

817
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: you're seeing high profile quarterbacks change teams every year. Why

818
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: not Lamar Jackson to the Patriots. It's not a silly thing.

819
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: I don't think it will happened in my mind. However,

820
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: is open to it, William Absolutely, I love Lamar Jackson.

821
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: I just think that you'd have to really do a

822
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: lot to make that work. That's my thing. But I

823
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: also think that you're hitting a little bit of a

824
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: point right now where you're probably gonna need an OC.

825
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna lose a bunch of wide receivers. So I mean,

826
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: I'm agree with you, but the opportunity, let's keep playing

827
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: it out. I like this. Bill O'Brien is supposed to

828
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: be the new offensive cornator, right. How much different is

829
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and Deshaun Watson in style? Yeah? He learned.

830
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: I mean Bill O'Brien learned to develop, and he was

831
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: instrumental in developing Deshaun Watson. Now, I think Watson's a

832
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: better passer than than Jackson. You know, So maybe you

833
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: could say what was easier for Billy O'Brien to do

834
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: it with him? But it's one of those things that

835
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: Tim and I haven't even really discussed. What I think

836
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: is the biggest obstacle is I'm not sure the Patriots

837
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: are willing to give two hundred and fifty guaranteed million

838
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: dollars anybody to anybody, right, you know? But okay, yeah,

839
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: that's true. I mean we have seen crazy things in

840
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: the NFL. I mean thinking about it, like we never

841
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: thought we would get Randy Moss. You never thought you

842
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 1: would get Brandon Cooked or Stephane Gilmore or Darrell Reevers.

843
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: So I mean even seeing Devine stay Addy's run over

844
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: to the to the to the Raiders and whatnot. So

845
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: I'll leave a chance. But I was just thinking of

846
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. You Okay, he's seventy years old. Do he

847
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: wants to see what because he wants to go through

848
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: this with Mac? Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah,

849
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 1: that's what I was trying. I know. Yeah, all those

850
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: guys you mentioned, I mean, all those guys you mentioned,

851
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 1: including Gilmore, it doesn't come close to what you're gonna

852
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: have to pay Lamar Jackson. Yeah. I would say Gilmore

853
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: is the only one that's comparable to this, because Gilmore

854
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: got top of the market, high end free agent corner

855
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: money for a corner out of nowhere. But I wouldn't

856
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: have said that's never gonna happen. Yeah, Now, was I

857
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 1: surprised when I when I walked into work the day

858
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: that they signed, Yes, because I hadn't heard anything about it. Yes,

859
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: I was, But I mean Fred's right, you're talking what

860
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: two and a half three times? Yeah, he's gonna want

861
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: he wants to set the quarterback market. Yeah, I know

862
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: he wants. He wants Watson's contract. Deshaun Watson's contract in

863
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: Cleveland is what he's looking for. Nobody should get that though.

864
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: That's the problems. He's freaking everything. I mean, he's better. Uh,

865
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: I don't know think so. I don't think so. I

866
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: just I mean I like watching. I don't know if

867
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: Watson will ever be the same. Yeah, um, you know,

868
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 1: I know he looked good in the second half last week,

869
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: But I don't know if they'll ever because oh what,

870
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: oh what? Oh you know what you did? I don't

871
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 1: know what you did? Kersh you know what you Thanks

872
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: William H. Let's go to market Sacramento. What's up, Mark?

873
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: Can you guys see man? Yeah? Yeah? Thanks? Could happen?

874
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: I call it nice. I just had a thought about

875
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati ban goes in the Buffalo Bills game and

876
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: how to solve the problem. I just want to get

877
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: through guy's thoughts about it. Okay, how about because it's

878
00:44:55,120 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: been like moving everything around and play nineteen game, how

879
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,439
Speaker 1: about just a simple point coin talus and m one

880
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: coach in the other whoever and the other thing gets

881
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: to lose and he just move on the Frinday and

882
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: everything as noble. Yeah. I've heard that thrown out there too.

883
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I think if it's a difference between two

884
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: and three, why not I I just find the conference

885
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: championship game. You know, then that becomes a little bit

886
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: of or if those two teams were to meet, especially

887
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: being three and two, thing, who gets to play? Where? Yeah?

888
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: Where do you play? That? That's the question. And you

889
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: know that's a big that's a big it's a big

890
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: coin flip for for a playoff game, especially you know

891
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: two teams. He televise that flip live, right, yeah, right?

892
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: Do you know they used to decision They used to

893
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: do those coin flips, like on conference calls, like back

894
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: in the in the old heads they just believe nineteen

895
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: seventies like NBA number one overall pick. It'd be like

896
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: the owner of the Cavaliers and you know in Cleveland

897
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: and the older the like the Trailblazers in Portland, oh,

898
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: and I'm Larry O'Brien. I'm gonna flip the coin now.

899
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: Oh and it's head Oh okay, imagine Al Davis being

900
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: involved in one of those I call challenge. Wow. But yeah,

901
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: I've heard the coin flip thrown out there too. I mean, yeah,

902
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: is that more equitable than calling in a no contest?

903
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. But to me, it comes back to

904
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 1: what Cincinnati and Buffalo want. Yeah, you know what they're

905
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: willing to agree to, what's fair to them. I don't

906
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: think this should be a like just the ruling from

907
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: above from Roger Goodell, I think, and I don't think

908
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: it will be. He has the power to do it,

909
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 1: you know, according to the the CBA and all that stuff.

910
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: But I think that he needs to have conversations with

911
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: the two teams and they need to reach an agreement

912
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: as to what they think is most equitable. What time

913
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: did they catch? Twenty two shows start this morning? Okay,

914
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,919
Speaker 1: So I don't want to take emails that were sent

915
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,479
Speaker 1: to them, yeah, Carl writ saying I don't want any

916
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: part of that. Well, one of says this is the

917
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: best football podcast on the internet, hands down. So I

918
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: came in at ten thirty five, So I'm gonna's mother.

919
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: I gotta give that to cash twenty two. Um, let's see,

920
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: this is Carl from Rochester. I haven't written in a while,

921
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: but listen regularly. Here's a game. Would Belichick stay or

922
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: leave if Robert Craft I pose these conditions? Note? I

923
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: know these probably won't happen Paul and Evan, but just

924
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: throwing some ideas out there. Would he stay if Patricia

925
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: and Judge can stay in the team but have to

926
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: but have no coaching power over any part of the offense? Stay?

927
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: Would he stay or leave? I think he'd stay. No

928
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: power of the offense, Yeah, no coaching power of the offense.

929
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: So you can make Joe Judge special teams coaching. You're

930
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: gonna make Maddie pe a defensive coach. Question was would

931
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: Bill accept this? Yeah? Would he stay or leave? Really?

932
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: So you think that he's going to keep those guys?

933
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: I don't. Well, I don't think that Bills would accept

934
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 1: any like you're out of like you have less sponsible Okay, Now,

935
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: the OC must be someone with extensive offensive and play

936
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: calling experience more than one season. I'll preface that one.

937
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: What was that? So the OC must be someone with

938
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: extensive offensive and play calling experience. Does he stay or leave?

939
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: This is a demand that's a stay because I think

940
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: that that's just what you'd what you'd hire anyway, right,

941
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: I mean right, Like, if it's Bill, you gotta hire

942
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: an offensive corder. Okay, great, I'm gonna hire some kid

943
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: that's never done it before. Like, no one's gonna No

944
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: one's gonna Matt Jones must be consulted and have input

945
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: on the QB coach decision. I'm out. I don't think

946
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: you'd agree to that, and should he? And finally, a

947
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 1: new draft per personnel is hired, and if they deem

948
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: a pick too risky or too much of a reach,

949
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: the pick is vetoed. New draft personnel is high. I

950
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: guess he means person a decider. Yeah, I don't know.

951
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: I think though that I don't think Bill's gonna like

952
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 1: anything demanded. I think things have suggested and it has

953
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: to be Bill's. But it's a tonality issue. Yeah, don't

954
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: demand things. I don't appreciate your time. Yeah, um, Bill

955
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: and Vista, California. Would you rather the Patriots sneak through

956
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: the playoffs and win the Super Bowl? Yeah? End up?

957
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: But end up keeping Patricia as next year, yes, or

958
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: miss the playoffs and bring in a qualified OC next year.

959
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: I'll take the Super Bowl and I'll sit here have knockdown,

960
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: drag out arguments with Fred that it had nothing to

961
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: do with the offense, I'll right now. But if that does,

962
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: but I'll take the title. But if that does somehow happen,

963
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: you have to be okay with Patricia being the OC

964
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: next year, right, Yeah, I'll take it. Yeah, okay, no

965
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: more complaining. All right, I'll take it. I mean, I'll

966
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: take a title over the alternative. Are you kidding me?

967
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Let's go back to the phones.

968
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: We'll go to Austin and Michigan. What's up Austin, Hey,

969
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: good afternoon, guys. Thanks for taking my call. So um,

970
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 1: obviously everybody he saw the Tamlin injury, and one thing

971
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: that I wasn't a huge fan of of how they

972
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: handled it was the way I saw it was the

973
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: NFL they wanted to continue play. But I really think

974
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: that Sean McDermott was really the one that was pushing

975
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: for the game to be canceled, because if you look

976
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: at like him having the conversation with the Bengals head

977
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: coach and the referees and stuff. The way they're like

978
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: body language was, you know, they're standing all there and

979
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: they got their hands on their sides and whatnot. But

980
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: when Sean McDermott was talking, he had his hand over

981
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: his mouth. He was covering it up because he didn't

982
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: want people knowing what he was saying. And to me

983
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: watching the game, seeing what unfolded, and in a few

984
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: minutes we got to see, you know, I saw a

985
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: Bengals offense that was running the ball down the field.

986
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: Their defense held the Bills to three points on their

987
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: first drive, and on the Bengals second drive, they were

988
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 1: running up the field again. So and honestly, where that matters, Yeah,

989
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,919
Speaker 1: totally totally irrelevant. I mean, you're implying that both teams

990
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: got the ball went right down the field in a blink.

991
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: You're implying that McDermott didn't want to, you know, was

992
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: looking for an out. I don't think that's the case.

993
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: But I did hear that He's told, you know, the

994
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: coach for the Bengals, yeah, I gotta gospital. But then

995
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: you see how I think the build, like their staff

996
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: people were cleaning up the equipment before you know, before,

997
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: before you knew, yeah, before you knew at that point

998
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: they knew, yeah. I mean, it was pretty clear underneath

999
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: they were the away team, so they had to start

1000
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: picking right. And it was pretty clear underneath the stands

1001
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: when they showed that those shots from that that fixed

1002
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: camera that they showed McDermott on the phone and then

1003
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: he handed the phone to Taylor, it was pretty clear

1004
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: they were talking to either Troy Vincent or Roger Yeah,

1005
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: and they were finding and maybe maybe the coaches were

1006
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 1: the ones that said, yeah, we ain't playing the rest

1007
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: of this game. Yeah, And and that could happen. But

1008
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: to imply that he was looking for and out because

1009
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: he thought he was gonna lose Chris, I don't think so. Austin. Um,

1010
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: guess who's here and has done so. Evan, we want

1011
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: to hear from practice, and then also I want to

1012
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: get your take on Bill's press conference. But tell us

1013
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: what's going on outside, going on in the rain outside,

1014
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: So I just toughed it out for all of you,

1015
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: Browse Gros. Good news for the Patriots on Thursday, Marcus

1016
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: Jones and Johnny Smith are back at practice. Joh wow,

1017
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: that's someone we're excited about. Yeah, all right, Marcus Jones,

1018
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: Johnny Smith back at practice. The only player missing was

1019
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: Divon Godshaw. He wasn't on the injury report yesterday, so

1020
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's an illness or something going on

1021
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: personal or whatever. Wouldn't look too much into that. But

1022
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 1: the good news is Marcus Jones, john U Smith back

1023
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: at practice, back participating from what we could see briefly

1024
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: on our brief window. And I think that this can't

1025
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: be a bad thing for the Patriots certainly. And I

1026
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: was talking to my cohort Alex Barth on the way

1027
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: back inside, and we're thinking, Okay, well, you got John

1028
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: Jones on digs and maybe Marcus Jones on Isaiah McKenzie

1029
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: and cook him with gas. You match up a little

1030
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 1: bit better, you do. I'm not saying that I feel

1031
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 1: much better about this game than I did yesterday, but

1032
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: certainly you have that, you have his big playability of

1033
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: potentially special teams that maybe playing him a little bit

1034
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,479
Speaker 1: on offense like they did in the Thursday night game.

1035
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 1: I think that there's at least some positive certainly from that. Okay,

1036
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: you did mention it was raining Upper Flower grass field

1037
00:53:56,080 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: in the rain. It's low forty, so it's not freezing

1038
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: by any means. So I think that was the one

1039
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 1: positive because if it was ten degrees colder, it's probably

1040
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: snow that or not rain. So we still haven't not

1041
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: to jinx it. But we still haven't had, to my knowledge,

1042
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: a snow practice. No, I don't think it's snowed in

1043
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: the game. No either. You're right not here, which has

1044
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 1: been weird. Um, And the early forecast for the Bills

1045
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: is there could be some participation thirties admit to upper thirties.

1046
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: I think for Sunday at one. Yeah, that's um. While

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Speaker 1: Bengals Bills game a no contest. Okay, that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: So I guess in that sense, then if the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: the number one seed. Yeah. Yeah, if they all win,

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Speaker 1: I guess the question is then from for Patriots to

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Speaker 1: a difference does it make the Buffalo to be the

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Speaker 1: two or the three. Now you get two home games.

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Speaker 1: I guess if they're not going to play Bill's Bengals

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Speaker 1: Divisional round it like a neutral side of which I

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Speaker 1: home games, I suppose. But you're you're definitely playing on

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs won that game, which means you're playing in

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Speaker 1: seven days in the playoffs, maybe six if they put

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Speaker 1: you on Saturday. So I wonder how much that that impacts.

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Speaker 1: I think they still play everybody. But if you're Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen and Sean McDermott comes up to you before the

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Speaker 1: game is just like, hey, you know, if this was

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Speaker 1: You know that sort of thing. Oh that was I mean,

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Speaker 1: as he put more pressure on himself, i'd be something

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Speaker 1: might be concerned if I was. And uh, as far

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Speaker 1: as you know, the mood you said yesterday, it was

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Speaker 1: like that. Today there was a lot of energy at

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Speaker 1: I look, I think they based off the vibe. And

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Speaker 1: later today, but based off the vibe at practice the

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Speaker 1: last couple of days, I do think that winning on

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Speaker 1: to feel like a playoff week here, because that's basically

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Speaker 1: hard to call upon that when you're dealing with all

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Speaker 1: there any members of the media doing extra grousing today?

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Speaker 1: But I think if you get him in, you can

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Speaker 1: guess in the last five weeks, it's like, this is

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Speaker 1: This is a guy that he's not a fiture. I

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Speaker 1: guess if you're saying that Stafford's not a sure thing,

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Speaker 1: then okay, yeah, But I mean, how can you say

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Speaker 1: Stafford's a sure thing? Oh? I didn't know the injury

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Speaker 1: was that like he was out for possibly out for

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Speaker 1: not playing anymore. Okay, well either way like a sure thing,

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Speaker 1: like I'm just like, I'm not saying that there's any

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Speaker 1: I'm saying the guys in his late thirties and has

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Speaker 1: I got lucky, I'm getting out. So he's not a

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Speaker 1: sure thing. So in mcvas in victors Mine, he's not sure.

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Speaker 1: that the league is planning to name the Bengals Bills

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Speaker 1: game and no contest. And my question was, is that

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Speaker 1: different from calling it a tie? I don't know, but

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Speaker 1: Neil says it's better than a tie, is better than

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Speaker 1: a loss. So to me, it has to be better

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Speaker 1: than an NA or no contest. A tie would mean

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Speaker 1: that Baltimore can't win the division. There is there is

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, no, if it's a no contest, they can't

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Speaker 1: win the division either. Is that right, yeah, okay, because

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Speaker 1: I believe the two games behind. No, Yeah, the tie

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Speaker 1: is I feel like it's it's one and the same honestly,

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Speaker 1: which is what's confusing to me, because a tie is

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Speaker 1: not a when you calculate win percentage, it's wins over

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Speaker 1: games played, and so you're still having the same amount

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Speaker 1: of wins. Like, right, I don't Kansas City is fourteen

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Speaker 1: and three would be better than Buffalo's thirteen in three,

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Speaker 1: correct if it's a no contest, right, and it would

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Speaker 1: be better than thirteen three and one correct, same thing, right, right,

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Speaker 1: And that's how I like Baltimore. Baltimore has ten wins, correct, Yes,

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Speaker 1: so they're ten and six, so they would finish eleven

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Speaker 1: and six. Cincinnati would finish eleven and five if they lose, correct, correct,

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Speaker 1: So they win the division. Eleven and five is better

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Speaker 1: than a eleven and six even if they lose the game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: even if they tie the game, it's the same. Like

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Speaker 1: from a standing standpoint, I don't know, like this is

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Speaker 1: too much math for me. Yeah, I'm on the verge

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Speaker 1: of you know me, you know, I just look at Paul,

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Speaker 1: wanted to point out how completely appropriate it is that

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Speaker 1: yelling into his right ear right. Since we're nearing the

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Speaker 1: third most cap space in the league this coming year,

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Speaker 1: are there any particular free agency would Yeah, that number

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Speaker 1: will be rooting for us to lose. That's probably accurate. Yeah, probably.

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Speaker 1: It's a tough spot. It's a tough spot. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how do you know? And then if you win, then

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Speaker 1: it's like a heel turn in in a wwe um.

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Speaker 1: the background. Yeah. Um, let's see Anthony. Quick question. If

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Speaker 1: they determined Buffalo Cincinnati is a no contest and Kansas

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Speaker 1: City when Saturday Buffalo has nothing to play for Sunday,

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Speaker 1: correct break between Cincinnati and Buffalo without the head to

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Speaker 1: head Cincinnati based on what oh no, excuse me? If

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Speaker 1: Buffalo wins and beats the Patriots. They beat the two seeds,

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Speaker 1: it Buffalo does. But if they lose, who would be

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Speaker 1: the two seeds Cincinnati based on depending on what happens

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Speaker 1: with Cincinnati Baltimore. So no, But if they tie and

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Speaker 1: they don't play like everybody says, Cincinnati would be tied

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Speaker 1: over Buffalo because they would have beaten them. Right, So

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Speaker 1: I believe that the next tie breaker is then conference record,

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Speaker 1: which I think if Cincinnati takes care of BIZ, they

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Speaker 1: would have. I'm pretty positive that that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: But we're getting into a lot of permutations at this point.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds right. Let mean, let me figure

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Speaker 1: it out for it. Let's get back to the phones.

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Speaker 1: We'll go to Todd North Carolina or who's hung on?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Todd? Todd? Hey, good, good afternoon, gentlemen. Todd.

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Speaker 1: So I want to actually talk about the game, because

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Speaker 1: I know we've been talking a little bit of hypothetical

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Speaker 1: playoffs and all this other stuff. Well, there's our offense

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Speaker 1: need to do in order to win this game. I

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Speaker 1: think we need four with two touchdowns and two field goals.

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Speaker 1: That's what I want. The same drive I might. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you on four. I think it's four touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: so I think the Buffalo has the tiebreaker ever since Finati. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so if Buffalo, because they would have the same conference record.

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Speaker 1: So I got lost at that point. If Buffalo and

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati both lose, and Buffalo is the two seed. If

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Speaker 1: they both win, Buffalo is the two seed. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 1: back to the question. Sorry, Todd, Todd drive, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, Todd. I think I think. I just think

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Speaker 1: you need four touchdowns from the offense. Four touchdowns. I

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Speaker 1: think if we can get it. I think if we

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Speaker 1: can get to twenty points, I think we can and

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Speaker 1: sustained drives. I mean I don't I don't mean like

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Speaker 1: you guys have been talking about, well, does this an

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Speaker 1: offense who cares what the drives look like? Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: think he's talking about time and possession of the field. Yes,

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Speaker 1: if you have like fifteen play drive, then maybe you can.

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Speaker 1: It's the old like what they did against highly. I

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Speaker 1: think more than twenty points, I do. I mean they

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Speaker 1: had seventeen after the first three possessions of the last game,

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Speaker 1: so twenty points and a defensive touchdown, so we're at

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Speaker 1: twenty seven. Maybe maybe that's different. But you can't plan

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Speaker 1: for that, and I think you probably have to plan

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Speaker 1: not for it because it's happened so much like eventually

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Speaker 1: the well runs drive. Yeah, progressions of the mean, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: basically we're looking at touchdown open to make so well,

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Speaker 1: I just think, yeah, whatever however you get there, I

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Speaker 1: think you're gonna need to mid to high twenties to

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Speaker 1: be in the game. Yeah, right, so let's at least, okay,

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Speaker 1: three shones and the two field goals and kind of

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01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:13,919
Speaker 1: Bay And that Thursday night game was Josh Allen tackling

1461
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 1: Matthew Judon when he's on the strip sac because Matthew

1462
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 1: Judon got the ball and he was right. I don't

1463
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 1: know know if he would have made to the end zone,

1464
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 1: but he would have at least put them in plus

1465
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 1: territory maybe, and Josh Allen tackled him for no game,

1466
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 1: which was low key a very very big play in

1467
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 1: that game's a big play overall. It's just, I mean,

1468
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 1: one of the only turnovers they've gotten out of these

1469
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 1: guys in yes, some memory, it's just I mean it

1470
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 1: was almost one of the questions I was going to

1471
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 1: ask in the round table, and I felt kind of like, Mum,

1472
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 1: should we put that in the game that they should

1473
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 1: have won because they should have had another defensive score. Yes,

1474
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 1: you know they're they're one and four against these guys.

1475
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 1: I mean they basically there point totals almost double um,

1476
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:55,600
Speaker 1: no interceptions from Josh Allen that one fumble, Just like

1477
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 1: what do you do at this point? Like, I mean,

1478
01:17:57,760 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 1: you know, it's like Evan, how many times have you

1479
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 1: written a d offensive? Here's what the Patriots need to

1480
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 1: do against Josh Allen in this game? Yep, And they like,

1481
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Do you just running out

1482
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 1: of like they tried it all? Like it just it

1483
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 1: just comes down to on this particular day, we have

1484
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 1: to outplay them and we have to hope that he's

1485
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 1: not on in nails and just thrown it all over

1486
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 1: the yard and running like a man possessed, like you know. Yeah,

1487
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: the opening drive for the Bills in the last game,

1488
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 1: the very first snap, they ran an inverted cover two

1489
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 1: simulated pressure. That's a lot of big words to just

1490
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 1: say that they gave up a five yard game right,

1491
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 1: like it just they ran a play that had all

1492
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 1: the bells and whistles that at their disposal. They dropped

1493
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 1: a guy off the line, They blitzed the guy up

1494
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 1: the middle, they took the corners on the outside, and

1495
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,640
Speaker 1: they inverted them into the too high still and like

1496
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 1: all this, they were spinning the dial all over the place.

1497
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 1: And I think against the quarterback like a Teddy Bridgewater

1498
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 1: or some of the quarterbacks that they've eaten this year,

1499
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: when you just throw the kitchen sink of information at

1500
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:54,639
Speaker 1: those guys, it can overwhelm them and you can win

1501
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 1: that way. But against a guy like Josh Allen, I

1502
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 1: think ultimately it does catch him a few times. But

1503
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 1: I think what ultimately happens is he's just like, you

1504
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 1: know what, I'm just better than this, So like I'm

1505
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 1: just gonna run around and I'm gonna make a play, right,

1506
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 1: And he doesn't really get too caught up in oh,

1507
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 1: I gotta read this coverage and there they trapping me here,

1508
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 1: or they actually running this and like all this other stuff.

1509
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 1: He's just like, well, I have a laser, so I'm

1510
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: just gonna throw it there anyway, and if not, I'll

1511
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 1: just run over somebody. And the first down, Yeah, Sean's

1512
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 1: in New York. Hey, Sean, Sean, Sean, Sean, I wonder

1513
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 1: if I wonder if I was Sean McDermott coach this

1514
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 1: game this weekend? Uh, Claire, right game? Hello everyone, Hello

1515
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 1: mare In, Hello Claire um. With Derek Carr sitting out,

1516
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 1: I got a little curious of what you would prefer

1517
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 1: if there were options for next season at quarterback? So

1518
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 1: would you rather Mac Jones? But with someone decent at OC?

1519
01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 1: Mac Jones regardless of who was at OC. Patriots draft

1520
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 1: a high pit quarterback and a new OC, and if so,

1521
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:09,639
Speaker 1: we keep or trade Mac, bring in a veteran, insert

1522
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 1: one of the reasonable choice and someone knew at OC,

1523
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 1: and if so, keep or trade Mac. I just think Mac.

1524
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 1: That's Mac for next year my opinion. Yeah, I mean,

1525
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 1: without knowing specifics, I would say Mac in a new OC. Yeah,

1526
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:27,679
Speaker 1: I don't think you're really talking about moving on till

1527
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 1: Mac till at least year four, and even then probably

1528
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 1: not till year five when maybe you didn't pick up

1529
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 1: the fifth year option because it doesn't turn around. Yeah. Yeah,

1530
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:38,719
Speaker 1: I would agree, And I've been, you know, somewhat critical,

1531
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,560
Speaker 1: but I would have to say that this isn't a

1532
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 1: typical year two. For any young quarterback to have to

1533
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 1: deal with all the stuff that he had to deal with,

1534
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:48,640
Speaker 1: I don't think he handled it well. I've been on

1535
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 1: record as saying that many times. I don't have to

1536
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: repeat it, but I do think you'd have to be

1537
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 1: catastrophically bad, like Zach Wilson bad to not deserve a

1538
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 1: third year UM. And you know, it sounds like Wilson's

1539
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 1: probably gonna get one too, um as bad as he's been,

1540
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 1: but based on based on the abnormalities of the way

1541
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 1: the offense was set up this year, I don't know

1542
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 1: how you can justify unless you get a home run

1543
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 1: falls in your lap. Yeah, that's the tough part in

1544
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 1: this draft is that Bryce Young and c J. Stroud

1545
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 1: are gonna be one and two. I would be shocked

1546
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 1: if they're not. And if you're picking eighteenth, then that's

1547
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:27,759
Speaker 1: a really steep trade up, probably an impossible trade up honestly,

1548
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 1: to get all the way up to top two. And

1549
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 1: then like you're talking about I don't know Will Levis

1550
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 1: from Kentucky, Like, I don't think that that's changing your

1551
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 1: your team, and also Will leave us. It is how

1552
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 1: you know me, Paul. We've started to do, like the

1553
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 1: draft things of the week, we just like Noah bug a. Yeah,

1554
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be what Texans Colts are gonna have

1555
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 1: those top two picks and they both need quarterbacks. So

1556
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 1: if you're gonna try to steal one of those guys,

1557
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to gig a king's ransom together. What

1558
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 1: I would suggesting if something fell in your lap, it wasn't.

1559
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 1: You're right, you're not gonna have something fall in your

1560
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 1: lap in the draft. Um, but you know, maybe someone

1561
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 1: that you don't anticipate being available, you know, as a

1562
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 1: veteran quarterback. And I'm not saying Arred Carr. I'm saying

1563
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 1: someone you know of a higher stature and all of

1564
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 1: a sudden you can get him. Like weird things happen.

1565
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 1: You just never know the guy you know who's going

1566
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 1: to be the next guy who's completely disgruntled with their

1567
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 1: team and just wants out and he can play. Like

1568
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 1: at what point, let's just say, I don't know, I

1569
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:33,640
Speaker 1: don't know, Joe Burrow, do you think Aaron Rodgers is

1570
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 1: going to stay with the Packers? Yeah? Yeah, So would

1571
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,560
Speaker 1: they want to trade Jordan Love and would you be interested?

1572
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 1: I think they should at some point. I mean I wouldn't,

1573
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 1: but I could see why some people would. I mean,

1574
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 1: how much do they like them? I mean I think

1575
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 1: that's a question. If they you know, we like them,

1576
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 1: then I think keep around. But I don't know. It

1577
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 1: doesn't feel kind of like the Patriots get something for

1578
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:58,760
Speaker 1: him while we can. He's going into year four, right,

1579
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 1: so he's on that and he's, well he was the

1580
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 1: first round. I don't know. I think they already have

1581
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 1: to decide on that, right, I don't know. This is

1582
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 1: his fourth year. I know he's I think next year

1583
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 1: they have to decide what they do. No, I would

1584
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 1: pick it up, yeah, if I mean, if you think

1585
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 1: he's any good, I mean they know what they think

1586
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 1: of him. Yeah, like Laflor has had him for three years.

1587
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 1: If you think he's any good, you pick it up

1588
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 1: and you say, well, I'll push that off his punk

1589
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 1: that decision as long as I can. Like a lot

1590
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 1: of people thought this was it for Aaron Rodgers. Now

1591
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the defense is playing out of

1592
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 1: its mind and he's rejuvenated. He actually looked like he

1593
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 1: cared the other day when they won. And they're gonna

1594
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 1: go to the playoffs. I'll have to was win a

1595
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 1: game Sunday night, and they're in so I think he'll

1596
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 1: be back. Um Gary writes in Fred, I know you'll remember,

1597
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 1: even if the other guys don't. I was listening to

1598
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 1: the preseason game when Darryl Stingley went down. I was

1599
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: white as it goes, sick to my stomach, and in

1600
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 1: suspended animation for hours. Just like Monday night. His life

1601
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 1: was in danger in a different way, but just the same.

1602
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 1: It's a Patriots moment I'll never forget, along with the

1603
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 1: night he returned to Foxboro and was in the press

1604
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:06,719
Speaker 1: box before the game. I remember that. Yeah, really, well,

1605
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 1: that's that's an interesting example though. I mean, I know,

1606
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 1: you know the Tehigans stuff. I mean, but that was

1607
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,560
Speaker 1: a play right where it was. I mean, that was

1608
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 1: a vicious hit that a US right like. Yeah, and

1609
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 1: but I mean that was kind of, I want to say,

1610
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 1: part for the course in the league at that point,

1611
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 1: but it was certainly a lot more hitting guys over

1612
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 1: the middle, clothes lining. I'm like that going high that

1613
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 1: was not called the penalty back in those days. You know,

1614
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 1: I don't think there wasn't a flag on that. I

1615
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 1: don't think so. But I don't know. I don't think

1616
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:38,560
Speaker 1: there was. You know, I don't think there was. Um

1617
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 1: Andrew says, in the situation where Casey wins on Saturday

1618
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 1: and the Bills cannot win the number one seed, assuming

1619
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 1: you were Buffalo, how would you rank your potential wildcard

1620
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 1: opponents from most wanna play to least want to play,

1621
01:24:55,120 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 1: use Pittsburgh versus Miami or verse ball Baltimore without Lamar Jackson. Well,

1622
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it is a little tempting with Baltimore,

1623
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 1: but I would just say a team that you play

1624
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 1: twice a year, that you've owned, I mean that you know,

1625
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 1: you're familiar with that. I think it would be my

1626
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 1: most desirable option. Pittsburgh. The Patriots would be close. I mean,

1627
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 1: they're similar. It's it's it's some good as Rogers. Yeah,

1628
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 1: and you and you can't say Baltimore without Lamar Jackson

1629
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:23,640
Speaker 1: because that's not on the table. You don't know that.

1630
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 1: I would still Maybe it's just the Homer in me,

1631
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 1: but I still lean Pittsburgh. Just oh yeah, me too.

1632
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I I think there's something

1633
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 1: still very like they're obviously something's missing from this team. Too,

1634
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 1: But I just don't think Pittsburgh is Well, here's the thing.

1635
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:41,640
Speaker 1: I've said this a million times this year. There's only

1636
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 1: one way the Patriots have to win. Pittsburgh is very similar.

1637
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 1: That's the only way they can win is seventeen thirteen,

1638
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 1: sixteen fourteen, Like, that's the game that they win. So

1639
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 1: I will take the Patriot's chances in that rock fight.

1640
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 1: You know, I think the Patriots are better in that

1641
01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:59,440
Speaker 1: kind of a game. I think they're better suited than Pittsburgh.

1642
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 1: Don't think Pittsburgh can score. If I'm Buffalo, I think

1643
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 1: the Patriots are a little bit better than Pittsburgh. Yeah,

1644
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 1: I'd rather play Pittsburgh than the Patriots. Another question I

1645
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 1: was putting the round table was the Jets and the

1646
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:14,760
Speaker 1: Dolphins both beat the Bills at home this year, and

1647
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 1: then both of them also had one score games in

1648
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo this year and no circumstances around. But why can't

1649
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 1: the Patriots have a close game like that? Like every

1650
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:24,839
Speaker 1: game they kind of lost year has been two plus scores,

1651
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,760
Speaker 1: double digit losses. Like why are those teams able to

1652
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 1: not only beat Buffalo at home and hold serve but

1653
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 1: make things interesting on the road too? Like it's just

1654
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 1: why why are the Patriots feel like they Miami full strength? Right?

1655
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 1: So their offense is much better than the Patriots offense

1656
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 1: at full strengths. I think that's for them. I would

1657
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 1: say that's they can keep up on the scoreboard with

1658
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 1: two uh. I think for the Jets, the Bills are

1659
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 1: a bad matchup. For the Patriots, They're just a bad

1660
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 1: matchup and it's like, how does he keep having three

1661
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 1: years in a row? Like we're a we did not

1662
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 1: We'll just we'll run it back match like, you know,

1663
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 1: the Jets have a lot more teams. I'd say on

1664
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 1: defense still, like I think the Patriots have made strides

1665
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 1: in that department, but they still aren't as fast as

1666
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 1: as a team like the Jets. The Jets are also

1667
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 1: a really good zone team, which I think helps when

1668
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 1: you play man against Buffalo, they just they tread man.

1669
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 1: Alan is so mobile and the receivers are tough to

1670
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 1: cover and man digs like how do you cover it?

1671
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,640
Speaker 1: Stefond digs for four quarters in man coverage. So I

1672
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:24,559
Speaker 1: think that that's a big part of it too. But

1673
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 1: I think for Miami it's it's that they could keep

1674
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 1: up with them on the scoreboard. All right, um, I

1675
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 1: guess it's that time of the week. Huh really really yeah,

1676
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 1: take our time early. We won't we won't rush it

1677
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 1: this week. We want to hear about the standings though. Yeah.

1678
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 1: Uh well I was not prepared for this. Okay, Well,

1679
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 1: as I previewed a very good week for everybody. Alex

1680
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 1: was the best. Wow at thirteen and two. You might

1681
01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 1: notice this strange number of games. I didn't award anybody

1682
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 1: the victory for the Buffalo Cincinnati game, but Alex thirteen

1683
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 1: and two, Mike, Evan, Paul twelve and three, Fred eleven

1684
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 1: and four. Like, really, I like this is a really

1685
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 1: good week. Now with the spread not as good for

1686
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 1: anybody except for Evan nine and six, make a good

1687
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 1: solid week Alex eight and seven, Mike eight and seven,

1688
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:37,639
Speaker 1: Paul seven and eight, Fred four and eleven. Oh my god,

1689
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 1: so season standings, Uh, Mike sixty four eighty nine and two,

1690
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:46,879
Speaker 1: One sixty three ninety and two. We had two different

1691
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 1: and they somehow he cannot he cannot Fred one fifty

1692
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 1: four ninety nine and two. Evan remains with the best

1693
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 1: overall winning percentage at one oh three fifty five and one.

1694
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:00,560
Speaker 1: That's a six fifty one winning percent enage ahead of

1695
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 1: my six forty seven and Alex is eighty seven and

1696
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 1: forty nine, which is a six forty winning percentage. Pause

1697
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 1: coming up on Don Shulam the spread, kick him off

1698
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 1: the show before he gets there. It's just ridiculous. One

1699
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 1: forty five, one oh six and four five seventy six

1700
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 1: winning percentage. Why didn't I bet one hundred parts in

1701
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 1: every game? Because you can't because because I'd be fired.

1702
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 1: But that would be okay because I'd have the money

1703
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:30,639
Speaker 1: a lot more than Mike one twenty six, one twenty

1704
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 1: five and four, one game over Fred one twelve, one

1705
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 1: thirty nine and four. Evan solid eighty seven eighty seventy

1706
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 1: six and three. You're making money, they can making money

1707
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:45,719
Speaker 1: making money five thirteen winning percentage, Alex sixty six sixty

1708
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 1: eight and two. Not making money, losing money. We're doing

1709
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 1: a good job. Yeah, that's when it would stop. Okay,

1710
01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 1: So full slate of games this week, um and they

1711
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 1: start on Saturday. Hated. Why why I'm with Paul on this?

1712
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:09,560
Speaker 1: Like to give me a day off. The competitive imbalance

1713
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 1: that we're getting here, it's just not for me. That's

1714
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,280
Speaker 1: why you hate the Saturday games. Yes, Oh I liked

1715
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 1: it when everything was played at Sunday at the same time.

1716
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 1: It just the drama is much better. So but I

1717
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 1: just meant like Saturday games in general, at the end

1718
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 1: of the year, you're fine those you just don't like

1719
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 1: it because of the competitive I like them. In like

1720
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:31,360
Speaker 1: week sixteen seventeen, I like Kevin, like what Fred said,

1721
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:34,759
Speaker 1: I just you know, like, do I not do something

1722
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:36,519
Speaker 1: Saturday because I feel like I need to see what

1723
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 1: happens in the game. And the answer to that is no,

1724
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 1: I will do something sad to have a day, you know.

1725
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:45,679
Speaker 1: Um So four thirty is the first game, and these

1726
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:47,559
Speaker 1: are on This is the one that matters to the Patriots.

1727
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:50,960
Speaker 1: These are on ESPN and ABC. They're putting it on

1728
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 1: both channels. According to this, thirteen and three Chiefs are

1729
01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:59,560
Speaker 1: at the six and ten Raiders Chiefs by nine and

1730
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:03,720
Speaker 1: a half. Pint and a half. I'm gonna just say

1731
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 1: that Kansas City makes life a lot easier on a

1732
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 1: lot of us, and they pull out the win. However,

1733
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna take those points though. I think

1734
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 1: I think Las Vegas kind of letting it rip a

1735
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:18,960
Speaker 1: little bit, and I think that they'll they'll keep it

1736
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 1: closer than ten games ten points. Yeah, I'm gonna do

1737
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 1: the same thing Chiefs with the Raiders covering the spread.

1738
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, MVP of the league, not close, thank you.

1739
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:32,599
Speaker 1: I love when he speaks in definitive tones. I am

1740
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 1: with the boys, Kansas City to win, Vegas to cover.

1741
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 1: I would be willing to pull an upset here, but

1742
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:41,960
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if the Raiders kind of emptied the bucket

1743
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:45,439
Speaker 1: last week. Yeah, bad team, really good performance against a

1744
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 1: good team. They still lost, So I do in the

1745
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 1: back of my mind wonder about that. But they seem

1746
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:53,760
Speaker 1: to play really good games. Kansas City in Vegas. Yeah,

1747
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:56,600
Speaker 1: so I'll split it. Um. Yeah, I'm gonna do the

1748
01:31:56,640 --> 01:32:01,240
Speaker 1: same thing. We're unanimous. Chiefs win by the Raiders cover

1749
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:06,840
Speaker 1: eight fifteen on ESPN and ABC. The seven and nine

1750
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:12,840
Speaker 1: Titans are at the eight and eight Jaguars Jags by six.

1751
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs, Right, Josh Dobbs is gonna lose to Trevor Lawrence.

1752
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:20,840
Speaker 1: I think this is uh, this is a Jaguars Uh.

1753
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 1: I want to say coming out game, but uh, but

1754
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:24,880
Speaker 1: I think that they they put it all together here,

1755
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:27,280
Speaker 1: but have nice climax to their season and punched their

1756
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:29,799
Speaker 1: playoff ticket. I'm gonna take Jags, and I'll lay the points.

1757
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 1: I'm also going to take the Jags. I think this

1758
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:34,560
Speaker 1: is a passing of the torch in this division. I

1759
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:37,000
Speaker 1: think the Jags are gonna be stick around, but I

1760
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 1: like the Titans to keep it close because I think

1761
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 1: they'll play for Vrabel and the division and they'll battle.

1762
01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm with Evan, I think the same thing. I think

1763
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 1: Tennessee will have a chance to win this game. I

1764
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 1: wonder if Jacksonville's ready for a big game. You know

1765
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:54,519
Speaker 1: the you know some young guys that haven't really been

1766
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 1: in this spot. But I just think Tennessee's too beat

1767
01:32:57,439 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 1: up to actually win the game. And Josh Dobbs, like

1768
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:01,760
Speaker 1: I've been said, think I don't think they're ready for

1769
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:04,480
Speaker 1: this year. I've been riding Trevor Lawrence and the Jaguars.

1770
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:09,799
Speaker 1: I'll keep on that ride. Jaguars win against the Titans.

1771
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 1: What was the number on that poll? Six oh six?

1772
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 1: When did you start riding Trevor Lawrence A long time ago.

1773
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:19,840
Speaker 1: He's been riding them. I will I'll say, I'll say

1774
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:23,960
Speaker 1: the Jaguars cover in this game. Uh, we move over

1775
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:27,720
Speaker 1: to Sunday one o'clock the eight and eight Buccaneers or

1776
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:33,960
Speaker 1: at the six and ten Falcons Buccaneers by fours. Wow,

1777
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 1: what the heck happened on my sheet? These are? This

1778
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:38,760
Speaker 1: is all mocked up? Um? All right? Well is this

1779
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:42,639
Speaker 1: uh Tom Brady wrapping things up? Oh? I'm sorry? Atlanta

1780
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:49,720
Speaker 1: by four, Atlanta by four? This is uh lead pipe lock. Yeah,

1781
01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna take Tampa and I will I'll

1782
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 1: take the points right, taking Tampa point Atlanta is favored

1783
01:33:57,200 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 1: by four. Yeah, all right, Tampa already won, and then

1784
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 1: they're definitely playing on watching spread is telling you that

1785
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:07,120
Speaker 1: they're not playing anybody in this game. That's that's what

1786
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 1: the sharps say. I saw that Trask might play a

1787
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 1: little bit for for the Bucks. I do, Yeah, okay,

1788
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 1: Alan Falcons. I think they end up taking Brady out

1789
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,120
Speaker 1: in the second half and he doesn't put together the

1790
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:23,400
Speaker 1: magical drive to make sure the Bucks win the game

1791
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 1: because he's not playing there you Yeah, I mean, I'm

1792
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:28,680
Speaker 1: gonna just go with the spread here. I'm gonna take

1793
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:30,840
Speaker 1: Atlanta to win the game out right, I'm gonna go

1794
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 1: with the Buccaneers. Um, I mean, if the Buccaneers aren't

1795
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 1: playing anybody, why would the Falcons? This is it's a

1796
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 1: big one for me, for Paul. It's gonna be Desmond

1797
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,679
Speaker 1: Ritter though, And I think, yeah, and he's been playing,

1798
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:44,120
Speaker 1: and they've been playing hard. He's got something to prove. Yeah,

1799
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:46,880
Speaker 1: I as long as Tom's playing, though, I don't think

1800
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:49,040
Speaker 1: he will. I think the spread's telling you he's not

1801
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:50,920
Speaker 1: gonna be in the game very long. I don't know.

1802
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:52,880
Speaker 1: I just saw Trask would was expected to say the

1803
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:56,320
Speaker 1: Bucks anyway? What they do? One o'clock, the twelve and

1804
01:34:56,320 --> 01:35:02,760
Speaker 1: four Vikings are at the three and thirteen Bears Minnesota

1805
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 1: by seven. No, Justin Fields, Yeah, three and thirteen. It's

1806
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:11,519
Speaker 1: crazy one of those three that was us. I should

1807
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 1: have won that one too. You know what, I'm gonna

1808
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:19,679
Speaker 1: take Minnesota. Would you say it was mine? In seven? Seven? Yeah? Uh,

1809
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Minnesota. I'm gonna lay the points. I

1810
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:23,120
Speaker 1: feel like they all of a sudden just have one

1811
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:24,760
Speaker 1: of those games where they bounced back and play well

1812
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 1: and put up a bunch of points. No, Justin Jefferson though, right,

1813
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:30,680
Speaker 1: no idea? All right, see Hurt, I don't know, Oh

1814
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:33,759
Speaker 1: you saw you said Justin Fields. I'm good justin Field Minnesota.

1815
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Minnesota too, but they're frauds sorry, fraudulent

1816
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 1: brown out by the Cowboys, blown out by the Packers.

1817
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 1: Not a good football team. Um, so you got both.

1818
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 1: You're taken the points, I am, but just because the

1819
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:54,040
Speaker 1: Bears are stinky. Oh so you're given the points? Okay? Yeah,

1820
01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:57,120
Speaker 1: I am gonna lay the points to UM Minnesota both ways,

1821
01:35:57,640 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 1: perhaps with their first victory of the season by more

1822
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:04,519
Speaker 1: than a score. Yeah, I'm gonna take Minnesota as well.

1823
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 1: Uh to cover and win UM Sunday at one, the

1824
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:13,360
Speaker 1: ten and six Ravens are at the eleven and four

1825
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 1: Bengals Bengals by seven MS. What are the Sharps No,

1826
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:24,240
Speaker 1: um no, Lamar Jackson Yep. Yeah, I'm gonna take since

1827
01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:28,920
Speaker 1: he all the way the points. I take the Bengals

1828
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:30,720
Speaker 1: as well. I think they blow them out, so I

1829
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:34,679
Speaker 1: think they cover. Bengals Patriots Wildcard round if it comes

1830
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:38,680
Speaker 1: to that, I don't hate it. I don't hate rather

1831
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:41,720
Speaker 1: than see the Buffalo again or Kansas City. Yeah, if

1832
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 1: I had to pick one of those three, I'm taking

1833
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:45,559
Speaker 1: the Bengals. Yeah, unless you get to watch Joe wa

1834
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:48,519
Speaker 1: I will take Cincinnati to win. I will take the points. However,

1835
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:51,280
Speaker 1: really division division game, I think it'll be closer. Yeah,

1836
01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:55,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Bengals both ways. Sunday at one, the

1837
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:59,639
Speaker 1: two thirteen and one Texans are at the four eleven

1838
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:03,599
Speaker 1: and one on Colts. Wow, should have this time the

1839
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 1: Toilet Bowl Colts by two and a half. Two and

1840
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:10,599
Speaker 1: a half. Colts are at home. I'm just gonna take

1841
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:12,800
Speaker 1: them at home. I'll lay the points. I'm not really

1842
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:16,479
Speaker 1: sure why. So the the Texans are they're locked into

1843
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 1: the number one pick, right, I believe so because that

1844
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:22,400
Speaker 1: I think this is two wins in a tie. Yeah.

1845
01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 1: Does anybody have three wins? Yeah? Bears the Bears. Yeah,

1846
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:29,080
Speaker 1: so they're not locked in right now, they're not. Three

1847
01:37:29,080 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 1: wins in a tie would be better than three wins, right.

1848
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 1: I take the Colts because the Colts cannot get the

1849
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:36,439
Speaker 1: number one pick based off of that, and I think

1850
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:40,840
Speaker 1: the the Texans really want that number one pick. Yeah.

1851
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:44,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Houston anyway, um, because I think that

1852
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:47,439
Speaker 1: they've played reasonably hard down the stretch, but I wish

1853
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:49,120
Speaker 1: they had locked up the number one seed. To you

1854
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:50,479
Speaker 1: a point and they could go out and try to

1855
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 1: win the game without anything in the back of their mind.

1856
01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:54,400
Speaker 1: It is interesting the Lovey angle. I don't know if

1857
01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:56,559
Speaker 1: Lovey is gonna be back next year, and maybe he

1858
01:37:56,640 --> 01:37:59,160
Speaker 1: doesn't give it. Yeah, but does he care about that

1859
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 1: number one pick? Right? I am gonna go with the

1860
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 1: Colts in this game, last home game. Colts go out

1861
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 1: with a win. Sunday at one. These seven and nine

1862
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 1: Jets are at the eight and eight Dolphins. Jets by

1863
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 1: one and a half. Jets one and a Hay, this

1864
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:19,960
Speaker 1: is a tough one. This is a tough, tough one. Yeah,

1865
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:22,599
Speaker 1: I might fade this game. I don't know what that

1866
01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 1: means still, but I'm gonna faded. Um. I'm gonna go

1867
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 1: Miami at home. I think it's a tough one though.

1868
01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:30,599
Speaker 1: This is a kind of a coin flip. But I'm

1869
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:33,800
Speaker 1: gonna take the Dolphins and I'll lay the points. I

1870
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 1: like the Jets. I like the Jets. I like them too.

1871
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 1: It's only one and a half, so I like them

1872
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 1: to cover two. Yeah. I Skyler Thompson or Teddy Bridgewater

1873
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:46,600
Speaker 1: or the broken Pinkie against that, against that defense, I

1874
01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 1: think the Jets still play hard. Nope, I don't like it. Yeah,

1875
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:54,760
Speaker 1: I'll take the Jets too. Um, if the Dolphins lose

1876
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:58,040
Speaker 1: six in a row to end the season losses, yeah

1877
01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:02,599
Speaker 1: wow Yeah. Mike McDaniel on the Armando reported that yesterday

1878
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:05,439
Speaker 1: he shouldn't be but he could be. I don't think

1879
01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:07,720
Speaker 1: he should be, right, but they're talking about him and

1880
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:10,559
Speaker 1: the GM. You know me, I would have fired Chris

1881
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:14,560
Speaker 1: like all of a sudden, he's gonna get fired. You

1882
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:17,639
Speaker 1: remember that one right week one when he was running

1883
01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:19,560
Speaker 1: plays instead of taking a knee at the end of

1884
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 1: the game. I said I'd fired him right now. That's

1885
01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:24,839
Speaker 1: coaching negligence. Well, um, if they can get Sean Payton

1886
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:28,519
Speaker 1: because they want they wanted Jomon, I don't think it's

1887
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 1: out of the realm. So this is when they finally

1888
01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:35,320
Speaker 1: get Peyton and Brady and yep yeah Thomas, Yeah, I'm

1889
01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:37,320
Speaker 1: gonna go with the Jets as well. I'm gonna go

1890
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:40,080
Speaker 1: with the Jets. Yeah. I think that the Dolphins are

1891
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:44,679
Speaker 1: really in a tailspin. Um Sunday at one, the six

1892
01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:48,280
Speaker 1: and ten Panthers are at the seven and nine Saints,

1893
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 1: Saints by three by three. Now, what are the sharp

1894
01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:55,720
Speaker 1: snow here? Because the Panthers have been playing well. I

1895
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:58,280
Speaker 1: know they lost last week to the Bucks, but they

1896
01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:01,599
Speaker 1: have been playing better. Yeah, you know the Saints beat

1897
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:06,720
Speaker 1: the Eagles last week. Yeah without Jalen Right, yeah yeah, Okay,

1898
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:11,800
Speaker 1: that's right back to where I am. I have no idea.

1899
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 1: So we got a lot of we got a lot

1900
01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:16,080
Speaker 1: of sameness going on here. But I'm say they have

1901
01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:18,559
Speaker 1: like the same record they both you know, I know

1902
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:20,840
Speaker 1: it's tough. I'm gonna I'm just gonna go home team

1903
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:23,600
Speaker 1: here again in New Orleans. Yeah, I'm gonna do the

1904
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:26,840
Speaker 1: same thing. I will take the Saints. I'm gonna take

1905
01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:29,880
Speaker 1: the Panthers. So screw you. Yeah, I don't think I

1906
01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:31,920
Speaker 1: don't think you. I don't think your pick is a

1907
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:34,800
Speaker 1: bad pick. I just think it's two bad teams playing.

1908
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:37,639
Speaker 1: They have the home team favored by three. I don't

1909
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:39,880
Speaker 1: think that's a red flag. That's not like the Falcons

1910
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:42,840
Speaker 1: a bad team over the division champs by four. Bucks

1911
01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:45,120
Speaker 1: are also a bad team, to be fair, but well,

1912
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 1: they're better team than the Falcons, although they should have

1913
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:49,680
Speaker 1: lost the Falcons the first time Sunday at one. How

1914
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:52,160
Speaker 1: do you remember that the seven and nine Browns the

1915
01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:55,839
Speaker 1: roughing the pastor game? Remember that seven to nine Browns

1916
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:59,320
Speaker 1: are at the eight. Nate Steelers. Steelers by two and

1917
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:03,080
Speaker 1: a half. Two. Hey, another Patriots game. They need Cleveland

1918
01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:07,720
Speaker 1: to win, and uh yeah, I haven't really seen much

1919
01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:09,599
Speaker 1: of Cleveland last couple of weeks, but I'm gonna take

1920
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:13,280
Speaker 1: Cleveland on the road. It fields gross having the roof

1921
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:16,240
Speaker 1: for to Shaun Watson. I hate that. But I think

1922
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:19,960
Speaker 1: the Steelers. I think they take care of business. I

1923
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:22,320
Speaker 1: think Henny Pickett's been playing okay. I'm not gonna say

1924
01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:24,559
Speaker 1: he's been playing great, but I think he's been playing okay.

1925
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:28,960
Speaker 1: May not even close. He doesn't make those pump plus breaks.

1926
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 1: He doesn't make those plus throws. He big time thrown.

1927
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:35,479
Speaker 1: He does have some mobility, though he does surprise he

1928
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 1: did something last week that Max's never done. Yeah, he

1929
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 1: does have a little bit of mobility. I think I'm

1930
01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:44,040
Speaker 1: gonna take the Steelers. It just I don't know. Toma

1931
01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:45,920
Speaker 1: just gets them to five hundred every year. I don't

1932
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:49,280
Speaker 1: understand it. It's amazing. Yeah, Like every year you think this,

1933
01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:51,479
Speaker 1: there's no way, there's no way this year, no way

1934
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:53,720
Speaker 1: this year, and he does it again. I think they

1935
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:59,639
Speaker 1: win this game. I think Pittsburgh wins it. That's your pick. Yeah, okay, yeah,

1936
01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 1: I agree. I think Steelers win this game. I I

1937
01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:05,400
Speaker 1: counted them out as dead at the beginning of the

1938
01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:08,000
Speaker 1: season too. I think I still think they say, I

1939
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:10,040
Speaker 1: thought this is going to be a lost season for them,

1940
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:13,200
Speaker 1: like who cares, you know, But they've turned it around,

1941
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:18,799
Speaker 1: you know. So I'll take the Steelers to win this game. Um. Now,

1942
01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:23,639
Speaker 1: we skip over the Patriots at one o'clock and we

1943
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:27,280
Speaker 1: moved to the four No four or five games. So

1944
01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:30,439
Speaker 1: they want to make sure that everyone's finished before they

1945
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:33,519
Speaker 1: start playing the late game, before they ensure that Aaron

1946
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:38,240
Speaker 1: Rodgers makes the playoffs. Right. So four twenty five, we

1947
01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:41,680
Speaker 1: start with the nine, six and one Giants against the

1948
01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:45,599
Speaker 1: thirteen and three Eagles, And I think Hurtz is going

1949
01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 1: to play Eagles by fourteen yikes, and that would signify

1950
01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:55,080
Speaker 1: he is going to play with You're gonna sit people

1951
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:58,120
Speaker 1: they're playing next week no matter what. I'll take Philly,

1952
01:42:58,160 --> 01:42:59,800
Speaker 1: but give me those that's a lot of points out.

1953
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 1: Just give me the points. I'll take Philly as well,

1954
01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do the same thing. I find it

1955
01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:07,760
Speaker 1: interesting though, that the Eagles not that it's going to

1956
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:10,879
Speaker 1: matter for them, But Gardner Minshew being Jalen Hurts's backup

1957
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:14,439
Speaker 1: is like, I don't know, like Tyler Huntley being Lamar's backup.

1958
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:16,759
Speaker 1: It makes a little bit of sense. But their offense

1959
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:19,560
Speaker 1: has fallen apart because Gardner Minshew can't do any of

1960
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:21,960
Speaker 1: the things that Jalen Hurts can do, even at like

1961
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:25,120
Speaker 1: a poor man's level. So yeah, I agree they're stylistically

1962
01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:27,519
Speaker 1: not close. But they did score thirty four points in

1963
01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:30,280
Speaker 1: his first start last week. They did nothing last week,

1964
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:32,680
Speaker 1: they were out early in apt I'm gonna take Philadelphia

1965
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 1: both ways. I think that they do everything they can

1966
01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:38,479
Speaker 1: to lock up that number one season. Yeah, the sharps

1967
01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:40,920
Speaker 1: are telling you to go with the number here. So

1968
01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:47,360
Speaker 1: Eagles cover four twenty five. The twelve and four Cowboys

1969
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:52,759
Speaker 1: are at the seven, eight and one. Commanders Dallas by seven.

1970
01:43:52,920 --> 01:43:55,720
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera still unsure if they're alive for the playoffs.

1971
01:43:56,680 --> 01:44:01,040
Speaker 1: I think Sam Howell started this game. Yeah, oh quarterback Roulette,

1972
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 1: Oh boy, Uh, I'm gonna take I'm gonna I'm gonna

1973
01:44:05,160 --> 01:44:07,280
Speaker 1: take Dallas. But you know what, I'm gonna take those

1974
01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:13,000
Speaker 1: points on the road and see if it's a close one. Yeah,

1975
01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:15,280
Speaker 1: I think I gonna do. Dallas has like just played

1976
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:17,760
Speaker 1: a bunch of close games for no reason lately. I

1977
01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:20,320
Speaker 1: feel like they just, you know, haven't really been able

1978
01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:22,760
Speaker 1: to pull away from teams. So I'll do the same thing.

1979
01:44:23,200 --> 01:44:25,800
Speaker 1: I will take them to pull away from Sam Howell. Um,

1980
01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:31,559
Speaker 1: Dallas both ways. Um My instinct says take the points,

1981
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:35,719
Speaker 1: so I will Cowboys win. But they do not cover,

1982
01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:38,559
Speaker 1: and I could definitely see like a Sam Howell start

1983
01:44:38,680 --> 01:44:40,439
Speaker 1: in him getting knocked out like in the middle of

1984
01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:44,400
Speaker 1: the second quarter, and it comes that Heineken running around rowing,

1985
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:51,599
Speaker 1: throwing picks, throwing picks and scoring touchdowns fur twenty five. Uh,

1986
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:55,720
Speaker 1: The ten and six Chargers are at the four and

1987
01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:59,719
Speaker 1: twelve Broncos, playing their tenth home games year. Um, Mike,

1988
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 1: don't you have for a number on that Chargers by

1989
01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:04,759
Speaker 1: two and a half, Chargers by two and a half? Okay,

1990
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:06,800
Speaker 1: Charges by two and a half. I have it down

1991
01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 1: here is Denver by two and a half, and it

1992
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:11,120
Speaker 1: just seems wrong to me. It does. ESPN says Denver

1993
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:13,280
Speaker 1: by one and a half. Okay, then Denver by two

1994
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 1: and a half. I didn't make a mistake If that's

1995
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:18,280
Speaker 1: the same thing that I looked at this way, Denver's

1996
01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:19,880
Speaker 1: favored by two and a half one and a half

1997
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 1: on you know what, I'm gonna go by a weird

1998
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:24,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Denver. I know that's strange, but I'm

1999
01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:26,519
Speaker 1: gonna take them. I think, like, yeah, that's a weird

2000
01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:28,439
Speaker 1: like Charger thing. They're not trying to be like, you know,

2001
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:30,439
Speaker 1: Johnny know it all. But I think a lot of

2002
01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:32,800
Speaker 1: these spreads are telling you the playoff teams are not

2003
01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 1: playing their players, right yeah, yeah, you know they get

2004
01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 1: this kind of information. We're not, you know, they're in

2005
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:40,040
Speaker 1: the charges. I haven't been on the Chargers, you know,

2006
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:43,160
Speaker 1: injury report all week, but whatever. Yeah yeah, yeah, Like

2007
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:45,439
Speaker 1: if Justin Herbert's not playing, I can understand why the

2008
01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:47,719
Speaker 1: Broncos are favored, right. I don't know why Justin Herbert

2009
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:50,040
Speaker 1: would play in this game. I mean, they're they got

2010
01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:54,680
Speaker 1: nothing to win, so I'll I'm still gonna go with

2011
01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:57,200
Speaker 1: the Chargers though, because I just think Denver is an

2012
01:45:57,200 --> 01:46:00,960
Speaker 1: absolute dumpster right now, and I think that, I don't know,

2013
01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:03,840
Speaker 1: there's something really wrong in Denver now. The players are

2014
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 1: trying to come out and defend Russell Wilson on social

2015
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:08,439
Speaker 1: media and stuff like that. It's just it's a mess.

2016
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:11,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the I'm gonna take the Chargers too.

2017
01:46:11,479 --> 01:46:13,479
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say real quick from from rap sheet,

2018
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:16,679
Speaker 1: I just thought this was interesting. Per Doctors, Damar Hamlin

2019
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:18,880
Speaker 1: was able to follow directions and even ask who won

2020
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:22,080
Speaker 1: the game last night? Oh? Like the show on the Doctors.

2021
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:25,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is this is? Is this live? Yeah?

2022
01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:27,680
Speaker 1: You see who won the game? Like, bro, you got

2023
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:30,680
Speaker 1: no idea what has been I feel terrible that now

2024
01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:33,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna find out that they had to he's gonna

2025
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:35,840
Speaker 1: be pissed the game. I think it's great. I mean,

2026
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:38,439
Speaker 1: I think that the fact that these are the kinds

2027
01:46:38,439 --> 01:46:40,160
Speaker 1: of things that you wanted to hear, right, this is

2028
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:41,800
Speaker 1: what we were talking about all week. You know, it

2029
01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:44,839
Speaker 1: makes some signs that we can say, Okay, it was horrible,

2030
01:46:45,320 --> 01:46:46,519
Speaker 1: but there's gonna be a light at the end of

2031
01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:48,439
Speaker 1: the tunnel. That's great. And you got six million dollars

2032
01:46:48,479 --> 01:46:50,559
Speaker 1: that's great. Well that's what Fred said. You know, you're

2033
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:54,000
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna, we're gonna win this to you. But

2034
01:46:54,160 --> 01:46:56,879
Speaker 1: you know serious, if there's any doubt in a player's

2035
01:46:56,920 --> 01:46:59,559
Speaker 1: mind that he wanted them to play. His first question

2036
01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:02,640
Speaker 1: is who one. Yeah, of course he did. You know.

2037
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:05,040
Speaker 1: It's I mean, it's like my favorite moment in Rocky Too,

2038
01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:08,240
Speaker 1: when when Adrian finally wakes up out of the corm right,

2039
01:47:08,360 --> 01:47:10,479
Speaker 1: she said, I just want to want to thank you.

2040
01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:13,639
Speaker 1: So did he Just so, it's funny that you said

2041
01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:17,640
Speaker 1: that perfectly. It it's completely inappropriate. Life imitates our But

2042
01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:20,160
Speaker 1: when they when they had the news about him. When

2043
01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:21,800
Speaker 1: this morning, as I'm driving in, the first thing I

2044
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:27,200
Speaker 1: thought about was a gift of Mickey take us like

2045
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:31,160
Speaker 1: like that. I wanted to, you know, like here we go, like,

2046
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:34,920
Speaker 1: let's get to training. You're saying praying for me, father

2047
01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 1: to calm. It's like you bust it up tonight. It

2048
01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:45,280
Speaker 1: won't be too bad. Hey, you know, I'm like solely father,

2049
01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:51,360
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for Father. So um chargers, Chargers win,

2050
01:47:51,479 --> 01:47:56,559
Speaker 1: but they don't cover I'll take the points. Well, Denver's

2051
01:47:56,600 --> 01:48:01,160
Speaker 1: favorite having fun? Yeah, oh den So if the Chargers win,

2052
01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:04,320
Speaker 1: they cover Denver's favored by two and a half. Damn it,

2053
01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:06,439
Speaker 1: I can I know I was confusing with that because

2054
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:08,920
Speaker 1: I was unsure if I had it right. Um Denver

2055
01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:11,720
Speaker 1: by two and a half. Why damn it? If you

2056
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:14,479
Speaker 1: think the Chargers are gonna win. Pick the Chargers, all right,

2057
01:48:14,760 --> 01:48:18,879
Speaker 1: Chargers win. Four twenty five, the five and eleven Rams

2058
01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:23,880
Speaker 1: are at the eight and eight Seahawks. Seahawks by six

2059
01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:27,840
Speaker 1: and a half. Os need it, they need it. I'm

2060
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:29,839
Speaker 1: gonna take the Hawks. I think they get it. I'll

2061
01:48:29,960 --> 01:48:36,559
Speaker 1: lay the points. So which one is this? The NFC

2062
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:39,200
Speaker 1: West one of them owns one of them and this

2063
01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:41,720
Speaker 1: is I don't I'm not sure about this one, but

2064
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:44,479
Speaker 1: I'm not sure this one qualifies. Okay, think gets the

2065
01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:48,559
Speaker 1: Rams on the Cardinals, the Niners on the Rams, and

2066
01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:51,679
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how much the other ones all get involved.

2067
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:53,920
Speaker 1: Pick it straight up then, and I'm gonna take the

2068
01:48:53,920 --> 01:48:58,640
Speaker 1: Seahawks as well. I'm gonna take Seattle. Um, they have

2069
01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:02,080
Speaker 1: something to play for and they will find a way

2070
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:04,320
Speaker 1: at home, and I'll lay the points. I will take

2071
01:49:04,360 --> 01:49:09,519
Speaker 1: Seattle as well. Four twenty five Sunday, the four and

2072
01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:13,040
Speaker 1: twelve Cardinals are at the twelve and four forty nine Ers,

2073
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:20,000
Speaker 1: the Niners by fourteen. The Niners do have something to

2074
01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:24,639
Speaker 1: play for because if the Eagles lose, the Niners can

2075
01:49:24,680 --> 01:49:28,519
Speaker 1: be the number one seed. Boy, I'm gonna take the

2076
01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:31,360
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers and yeah, I think they win big.

2077
01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lay the points. I take the forty nine

2078
01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:37,160
Speaker 1: ers as well. And then when we wake up Monday morning,

2079
01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:39,840
Speaker 1: does Cliff Kingsbury still have a job. Yeah, I know

2080
01:49:39,920 --> 01:49:43,479
Speaker 1: everybody thinks he's completely gone. And I just can't imagine

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01:49:43,479 --> 01:49:46,200
Speaker 1: that Bidwell eats that money. So it is a lot

2082
01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:50,240
Speaker 1: of money. But he just signed him. Then the team

2083
01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:54,120
Speaker 1: that drafted him. It's an offensive coordinator. But you've been

2084
01:49:54,160 --> 01:49:59,680
Speaker 1: telling me Young Evan all season long, how uninspired the

2085
01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:04,000
Speaker 1: Carinals offenses. It is Cliff Kingsbury. I know, but this

2086
01:50:04,160 --> 01:50:06,600
Speaker 1: is what I'm hearing. I'm just I'm just here to

2087
01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:10,479
Speaker 1: everybody honest, because I like Fred will tell you this.

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01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:16,160
Speaker 1: I'd like to know opinions on people before, not after

2089
01:50:16,479 --> 01:50:18,599
Speaker 1: their patriots. Oh you know, if they hire him, I'm

2090
01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 1: going to tell you the greatest thing ever I know

2091
01:50:20,680 --> 01:50:23,840
Speaker 1: because that's what we do around here. So all year

2092
01:50:23,960 --> 01:50:28,120
Speaker 1: you told me, okay, okay, he's no good okay, but

2093
01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:32,040
Speaker 1: to be fair, but with Mac Jones, he's not you

2094
01:50:32,120 --> 01:50:35,080
Speaker 1: no longer saddled with Kyler Murray. With Mac Jones. Yeah,

2095
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:40,439
Speaker 1: at least Jones can see good luck. But if he's

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01:50:40,520 --> 01:50:44,120
Speaker 1: gone from uh, the Cardinals. Don't you think the more

2097
01:50:44,160 --> 01:50:47,760
Speaker 1: attractive option for him is to take over a college program? Yeah,

2098
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:50,360
Speaker 1: but that that time of years kind of passed though.

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01:50:50,520 --> 01:50:52,760
Speaker 1: Why would you like, know what if he wants to

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01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:55,240
Speaker 1: be an NFL coach, but he's going to be a

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01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:59,400
Speaker 1: head coach in a college program and it's probably be good.

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01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:01,800
Speaker 1: What do you but what do you want? What do

2103
01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:03,960
Speaker 1: I want? Does he want to be an NFL head coach?

2104
01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:05,560
Speaker 1: You get to make a lot of money and be

2105
01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:07,679
Speaker 1: in charge. Does you want to be an NFL head coach? Again,

2106
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:10,680
Speaker 1: you can be down the road, but that's but I

2107
01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:12,479
Speaker 1: think that's a big part of the equation. Yeah, but

2108
01:51:12,720 --> 01:51:15,280
Speaker 1: I think the better road is Evans road. Yeah. If

2109
01:51:15,320 --> 01:51:16,960
Speaker 1: you want to be an NFL head coach, come here,

2110
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:21,000
Speaker 1: fix fix somebody's offense, and then you become a hot commodity. Yeah,

2111
01:51:21,120 --> 01:51:22,680
Speaker 1: but you make a lot more money and be in

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01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:25,640
Speaker 1: total control in college. Okay. One other thing I'll say

2113
01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:27,760
Speaker 1: about the Cardinals, A lot of reports coming out of

2114
01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:32,160
Speaker 1: Arizona is that more than likely DeAndre Hopkins is definitely

2115
01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:35,519
Speaker 1: going to be out in Arizona because they're not thinking

2116
01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:38,599
Speaker 1: that Kyler's going to be ready to even play at all.

2117
01:51:38,680 --> 01:51:41,240
Speaker 1: Next year. So next year it's kind of a lost year.

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01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:44,320
Speaker 1: He's got two years left on his contract. We saw

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01:51:44,320 --> 01:51:46,600
Speaker 1: a bill with him on NFL Films or whatever, the

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01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:49,400
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks or whatever that was going Google Gaga. I've

2121
01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:51,680
Speaker 1: been on that. I'd rather have t Higgins, but I've

2122
01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:54,920
Speaker 1: been on it only because of age, not because of

2123
01:51:55,920 --> 01:51:57,800
Speaker 1: getting up there. Hopkins is a better player. You're right

2124
01:51:57,800 --> 01:52:01,000
Speaker 1: in the wheelhouse that first contract, like Boom. But yeah,

2125
01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:03,280
Speaker 1: I've heard I've heard you a boy. I've heard Alex

2126
01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:07,320
Speaker 1: talk about DeAndre Hopkins. Bill O'Brien and I picked San

2127
01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:14,240
Speaker 1: Francisco both twenty Sunday Night, eight Night Lions against the

2128
01:52:14,360 --> 01:52:18,160
Speaker 1: eight Night Packers, pack by four and a half. Easy

2129
01:52:18,200 --> 01:52:22,760
Speaker 1: pick for me, Go pack Go Green Bay Packers. I

2130
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:26,360
Speaker 1: will lay the points. I'm taking the Packers. I'm taking

2131
01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:29,880
Speaker 1: them to win big. I've been liking the Packers. I've

2132
01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:31,680
Speaker 1: been liking what I'm seeing. They were looking more and

2133
01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 1: more like the team that they were last year towards

2134
01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:36,920
Speaker 1: the end. Tire. I think it took Rogers a month

2135
01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:38,760
Speaker 1: or two to get on the same page with some

2136
01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:41,920
Speaker 1: of those receivers. I love Christian Watts, that guy's awesome.

2137
01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:45,000
Speaker 1: I like Watson too. I think the Packers win this game,

2138
01:52:45,080 --> 01:52:48,760
Speaker 1: big absolutely uh. Never will I be rooting for a

2139
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:53,080
Speaker 1: different team more than my pick, and I will Sunday night, folks,

2140
01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:56,800
Speaker 1: this is your upset of the week. Lions win out right,

2141
01:52:57,200 --> 01:53:00,320
Speaker 1: I think I just would that be so beautiful? Yeah,

2142
01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:04,519
Speaker 1: Lions win the game. Not a Rogers guy, just an

2143
01:53:04,560 --> 01:53:07,960
Speaker 1: insufferable boom. Doesn't like him? I like him, um, And

2144
01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:10,599
Speaker 1: the good news is they're rounding into their last year's form,

2145
01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:13,600
Speaker 1: which means they'll lose next week. I like talent, you know.

2146
01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:16,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he's without question, the most talented quarterback and

2147
01:53:16,680 --> 01:53:19,600
Speaker 1: football over the last twenty years. Without I mean, to me,

2148
01:53:19,640 --> 01:53:23,040
Speaker 1: there's not even an argument Mahomes. He's more talented than Mahomes.

2149
01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:27,640
Speaker 1: Mahomes is more like, has the ability to play schoolyard

2150
01:53:27,880 --> 01:53:31,240
Speaker 1: than anybody. But just in terms of watching a guy

2151
01:53:31,320 --> 01:53:34,519
Speaker 1: throw a ball. Yeah yeah, I mean, I don't mean

2152
01:53:34,560 --> 01:53:37,760
Speaker 1: to go all Bill on you. I mean, he's like,

2153
01:53:37,960 --> 01:53:39,519
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how we held him down.

2154
01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:41,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how we held him to

2155
01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:44,040
Speaker 1: their season highest point total of the whole year. I

2156
01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:49,760
Speaker 1: don't know how we did that so good. I don't

2157
01:53:49,800 --> 01:53:52,439
Speaker 1: mean to sound like Bill or anything, but his his

2158
01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:56,760
Speaker 1: skill set is the best. I think. Now we go

2159
01:53:56,920 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 1: back to one o'clock. Uh sorry, yeah, thank you, And

2160
01:54:04,240 --> 01:54:06,800
Speaker 1: Patriots are a little early. I wasn't ready for that.

2161
01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:09,640
Speaker 1: Are at the twelve and three bills? All right? So

2162
01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:15,640
Speaker 1: this spread is dropping precipitously big time. Based on the

2163
01:54:16,280 --> 01:54:20,280
Speaker 1: Tomorrow Hamblin aftermath. In my opinion, it was as high

2164
01:54:20,320 --> 01:54:22,880
Speaker 1: as nine. I believe on Sunday it was eight and

2165
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:27,840
Speaker 1: a half. It's down to seven. Buffalo by seven. Who Uh?

2166
01:54:29,080 --> 01:54:31,400
Speaker 1: I think Bill Buffalo is gonna win? Um? I just

2167
01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:33,320
Speaker 1: I just think they have I have too much and

2168
01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:35,080
Speaker 1: the Patriots haven't really been able to solve them. I

2169
01:54:35,120 --> 01:54:38,080
Speaker 1: do think the Patriots, uh, you know what. I'm gonna

2170
01:54:38,120 --> 01:54:39,360
Speaker 1: take the Bills to win, but I'm gonna take the

2171
01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:41,400
Speaker 1: Patriots with the points. I just think the Patriots keep

2172
01:54:41,440 --> 01:54:44,000
Speaker 1: it close. Um. I don't know if they get into

2173
01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:47,960
Speaker 1: the thirties, but I'm gonna say Bill's twenty seven Patriots.

2174
01:54:48,280 --> 01:54:52,440
Speaker 1: What was that number again? Seven? Wow? What do you have?

2175
01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:54,600
Speaker 1: It's not my turn? No, what do you have for

2176
01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:56,640
Speaker 1: a number? I don't have a number. Oh. I think

2177
01:54:56,680 --> 01:55:01,000
Speaker 1: he's just moaning up the spread. I know I wish

2178
01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:03,480
Speaker 1: I could take the Patriots in this game. I just

2179
01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:08,080
Speaker 1: you can. I just can't. I can't. I can't see

2180
01:55:08,120 --> 01:55:11,960
Speaker 1: a formula. And it's not even necessarily about Josh Allen

2181
01:55:12,040 --> 01:55:14,280
Speaker 1: versus the Patriots defense. I think I'm more caught up

2182
01:55:14,360 --> 01:55:17,120
Speaker 1: on the Patriots offense actually moving the ball against the Bills,

2183
01:55:17,160 --> 01:55:19,240
Speaker 1: which has been as much of a problem that I

2184
01:55:19,320 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 1: feel like goes under the radar because they didn't force

2185
01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:23,520
Speaker 1: Josh Allen to punt and stuff. They can't move the

2186
01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:26,920
Speaker 1: ball on the Bills defense either, So I just think

2187
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:29,400
Speaker 1: that the Bills end up winning this game something like

2188
01:55:29,560 --> 01:55:32,960
Speaker 1: twenty seven seventeen, and the Patriots offense just can't score

2189
01:55:33,200 --> 01:55:36,240
Speaker 1: enough points to keep up. Yeah. Yeah, I think we

2190
01:55:36,320 --> 01:55:39,360
Speaker 1: all see a kind of a similar game. I do

2191
01:55:39,640 --> 01:55:42,080
Speaker 1: have pause, and that number dropped, and I think it's

2192
01:55:42,160 --> 01:55:45,760
Speaker 1: dropping because the people thinking like I'm thinking. I think

2193
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:48,840
Speaker 1: it's much more difficult to get ready to play if

2194
01:55:48,880 --> 01:55:50,960
Speaker 1: you're Buffalo than any of the other thirty one teams,

2195
01:55:52,600 --> 01:55:54,200
Speaker 1: and I think that's going to have an impact. I

2196
01:55:54,240 --> 01:55:57,160
Speaker 1: think that will hurt their preparation this week. I don't

2197
01:55:57,200 --> 01:56:00,200
Speaker 1: think they've thought one bit about a game plan maybe

2198
01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:03,680
Speaker 1: until today, so it was the first day they practice.

2199
01:56:03,720 --> 01:56:05,960
Speaker 1: It's fortunate for them it's a division opponent that they

2200
01:56:06,040 --> 01:56:08,680
Speaker 1: just saw. Yeah, so I don't think it's like the

2201
01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:11,840
Speaker 1: end of the world, but I do think Buffalo is

2202
01:56:11,880 --> 01:56:16,160
Speaker 1: just significantly more talented than the Patriots across the board.

2203
01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go twenty seven thirteen. Yeah. Um, I'm with Evan.

2204
01:56:23,080 --> 01:56:25,200
Speaker 1: I wish I could pick the Patriots. You're allowed to

2205
01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:28,720
Speaker 1: be a big boy. But you know, you know what

2206
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:30,720
Speaker 1: you said, You're a big boy. You know. Don't tell

2207
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:33,040
Speaker 1: me that I always picked the Patriots. I don't say. No,

2208
01:56:33,160 --> 01:56:34,920
Speaker 1: I haven't said. I haven't said that this year. I

2209
01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:38,280
Speaker 1: can give you a lot of examples of you picking

2210
01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:41,440
Speaker 1: against the Patriots. Um, and I can't pick them, but

2211
01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:50,720
Speaker 1: I'll take the points. Um, twenty eight, twenty three, that's

2212
01:56:50,760 --> 01:56:54,280
Speaker 1: the score. Three, that's what's going to be. It's like

2213
01:56:54,360 --> 01:56:56,560
Speaker 1: a dramatic pause there. Well, I had to make sure

2214
01:56:56,640 --> 01:56:58,960
Speaker 1: that I was within thee. I knew I could feel

2215
01:56:59,080 --> 01:57:02,280
Speaker 1: like the hamster whe was turning. Yeah, all right, Um,

2216
01:57:02,840 --> 01:57:05,400
Speaker 1: so that's it. Right, there's no Monday night game because

2217
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:08,000
Speaker 1: last week of the season. No, and I wonder if

2218
01:57:08,080 --> 01:57:11,960
Speaker 1: you know, like the kind of multiple reports about that

2219
01:57:12,040 --> 01:57:17,560
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Buffalo game, no contest or like the eighth you know,

2220
01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:22,280
Speaker 1: eighth stuff to see what was Yeah, that's where I

2221
01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:25,080
Speaker 1: was going. And I just think, doesn't it make a

2222
01:57:25,120 --> 01:57:28,840
Speaker 1: little more sense to like put a decision off until

2223
01:57:28,840 --> 01:57:30,720
Speaker 1: you have to make a decision. I think that's what

2224
01:57:30,800 --> 01:57:34,960
Speaker 1: they're doing. Yeah, like wait to see what happens. Maybe

2225
01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:38,120
Speaker 1: you get lucky, Maybe you get lucky Buffalo wins Kansas

2226
01:57:38,160 --> 01:57:42,000
Speaker 1: City and Cincinnati Louis. Yeah, man, it's unlikely, I get it.

2227
01:57:42,680 --> 01:57:45,680
Speaker 1: But if that happens, then that game truly is irrelevant.

2228
01:57:46,720 --> 01:57:51,680
Speaker 1: Yea perfect But either way, we're playing Sunday at one.

2229
01:57:51,760 --> 01:57:54,320
Speaker 1: It was uncertain up until today in my opinion, but

2230
01:57:54,520 --> 01:57:56,800
Speaker 1: now we know, it seems like it yep yep. So

2231
01:57:57,440 --> 01:58:01,520
Speaker 1: in good news with Damar Hamlin watching on TV right now,

2232
01:58:01,680 --> 01:58:06,560
Speaker 1: the doctors from the UC Health Medical Center are talking

2233
01:58:06,680 --> 01:58:09,400
Speaker 1: and you know, yeah saying he still has a ways

2234
01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:11,440
Speaker 1: to go, but he's you know, communicating, and you know

2235
01:58:11,440 --> 01:58:14,000
Speaker 1: they're still hopeful he's going to resume his life as

2236
01:58:14,040 --> 01:58:16,000
Speaker 1: it was before the incident. I love that he asked

2237
01:58:16,160 --> 01:58:18,240
Speaker 1: who won the game? Did you hear what their response was?

2238
01:58:18,760 --> 01:58:22,160
Speaker 1: They told him that you won because you're here you're here.

2239
01:58:22,360 --> 01:58:25,160
Speaker 1: That's awesome. You won the game. That's awesome. That's really good.

2240
01:58:25,920 --> 01:58:29,160
Speaker 1: That's really good. All right, even even the curmudgeon. Yeah,

2241
01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:33,200
Speaker 1: that's awesome. That's really grinch heart is right, John Rook

2242
01:58:33,280 --> 01:58:37,800
Speaker 1: in the playbook is up next? Correct? Pregame Social ten

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Speaker 1: forty five Catch me over run the Sports Hub on

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Speaker 1: one of my shows. Oh yeah, Paul will be later

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Speaker 1: minutes filling in for Ted Johnson ten forty five Social

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