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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I'm coming to you
Speaker 1: from a city filled with heroes in bunkers. Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: Chris Westling, and Greg Roshal. What is up, boys? Hey? Dan? Hey,
Speaker 1: not a lot of flattening happening in this house, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you that much. It's like a screwball. Um wait
Speaker 1: a second, we have one more guests on today's very
Speaker 1: special edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. Wow. He
Speaker 1: is the senior national writer for Fox Sports dot Com.
Speaker 1: It's like he's gonna say the man in the middle.
Speaker 1: He is co ho the Good Morning Football, the iconic
Speaker 1: NFL network morning show. He writes for g Q. He's
Speaker 1: the co author of the New York Times bestseller Out
Speaker 1: of the Blue. And that's everything that you could read
Speaker 1: on his Twitter bio. Peter Schrager, Welcome back to the
Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. Yes, that went from sounding like
Speaker 1: the nineties Six Bowls to an episode of Silk Stockings
Speaker 1: on so stalking that. That's funny that you bring that up,
Speaker 1: because silk Stockings is kind of the the Cleaner or
Speaker 1: the Goody two Shoes step sister of Red Shoe Diaries,
Speaker 1: which came up on Monday's program. Yes, and on Friday,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about Emmanuel in Space epic. Peter, Peter, give
Speaker 1: me a little backup on this because I didn't get
Speaker 1: it yesterday. In films and films and programs on certain
Speaker 1: channels late night in the mid nineties, is it fair
Speaker 1: to say that fifty recent of those programs involved virtual
Speaker 1: reality headgear? Absolutely? And then the movie Johnny No Moonic
Speaker 1: came out with Keanu Reeves and it was like Demolition Man.
Speaker 1: That was everyone's And now here we are in living
Speaker 1: in bunkers and in quarantines and very little virtual reality
Speaker 1: headsets being used. It feels like I missed opportunity. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: this was the time, Peter, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 1: How are you doing in this obviously unprecedented time in
Speaker 1: human history? Uh? Dan, I'm a lot better now, all
Speaker 1: things considered. We're all in great shape because everyone's healthy,
Speaker 1: that is in this household. But I was in New
Speaker 1: York in our apartment and after a few days of
Speaker 1: New York City living with uh my wife who's also working,
Speaker 1: myself who was in the middle of free agent frenzy
Speaker 1: and a three year old son. Uh, those square feet
Speaker 1: continued to get a little little more cramped. Um. I
Speaker 1: made a first, really father, big boy adult decision of
Speaker 1: my life. I basically walked to Enterprise rental car in Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: I said, can I get in SUV? I got one
Speaker 1: for two weeks. I said, can I just pack it
Speaker 1: up with as much of his toys my son's as
Speaker 1: we can. Let's hit the road. Our in laws have
Speaker 1: a basement and we have relocated from an apartment in
Speaker 1: Brooklyn to now a basement in Baltimore, Maryland where you
Speaker 1: can see a Super Bowl poster from Super Bowl thirty
Speaker 1: five when the Ravens with Brandon Stokely Trent Dilford. I
Speaker 1: did a little bit better than Kerry Collins and Joe
Speaker 1: Jara Vicious and want a Super Bowl down in Tampa.
Speaker 1: That is our decoration in our back. But we have
Speaker 1: now been here about three weeks, living in a basement. Uh,
Speaker 1: my wife, myself and my son, and then our fabulous
Speaker 1: in laws for taking us in er Uh, Sarah and
Speaker 1: David have been unbelievable host But this is what it is.
Speaker 1: Don't cry for us, there's a lot worse situations, but
Speaker 1: it's a long way from being at the combine and
Speaker 1: uh getting in an elevator with Cessler and talking about
Speaker 1: where we want to go for steak dinner tomorrow night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it might as well unpack that right now, how are
Speaker 1: things with Cessler and Schreeger? Because Mark did share that story,
Speaker 1: he kind of he kind of presented as a bit
Speaker 1: of an awkward, almost like a curb your enthusiasm type
Speaker 1: exchange with it ended with the the famous comment I
Speaker 1: love you bro, Like I I think the only thing
Speaker 1: that was awkward was the clipped uh time period, because
Speaker 1: you know, you got in, we were having a chat,
Speaker 1: and then my my door, the Florida to my room,
Speaker 1: the door to my floor opened up. I get out,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, I haven't seen Peter Schrieger
Speaker 1: in a long time. There's this online Uh you know
Speaker 1: you're here. You you mentioned you've been hearing about these
Speaker 1: whispers of a feud. I thought, this is tough to
Speaker 1: unpack in eight to nine seconds, um inside a metal box.
Speaker 1: The door opens, I get out. I'm like, I have
Speaker 1: to close this conversation. Well, what if I don't see
Speaker 1: Peter again. What if a pandemic were to hit the
Speaker 1: country and I wouldn't get a chance to circle back
Speaker 1: with Peter. And I just said all the first thing
Speaker 1: that came to my heart, which was love you, bro,
Speaker 1: which I think that's you know, that's I don't think
Speaker 1: that's negative. I saw that as a I'm not sure
Speaker 1: when I'll see you again. I wish the best for you.
Speaker 1: As that door closed and the steel pipes commine, I whispered,
Speaker 1: it wasn't audible, whispered I love you too. It was
Speaker 1: definitely You might have missed the exchange, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: just a monologue. That was a dialogue. And I'll go
Speaker 1: one further. There's an arrogance to me saying I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what's going on in your podcast. You know, I
Speaker 1: hear a lot of stuff on Twitter. I knew it all.
Speaker 1: I listened all the time. But I had to take
Speaker 1: the high road and be a little bit like you know,
Speaker 1: TV guy, I don't I'm not really involved with what
Speaker 1: you're talking about, but I knew. And it actually hurt
Speaker 1: my heart thinking that Sessler felt there was a feud.
Speaker 1: You said hand extreme poise. You said your first and
Speaker 1: think was love you, bro, But actually your first things
Speaker 1: think was to make a list of the people you
Speaker 1: respected most at the company and not include Peter. Well,
Speaker 1: let's let's back up the truck a little bit, because
Speaker 1: if you're new to the show, you should know how
Speaker 1: this started. Mark has been on something of a quest
Speaker 1: over the past almost twelve months, looking for respect in
Speaker 1: the industry, and when Peter joined us pool side at
Speaker 1: the NFL Media Talent Summit on the West side of
Speaker 1: Los Angeles June twenty, nineteen June, this time, stamp that time,
Speaker 1: stamp this, and this is what happened. When you look
Speaker 1: around the circle here, the four of us, which one
Speaker 1: do you respect the most? Which one do you respect
Speaker 1: the most? Which one do you respect the most? Now
Speaker 1: it's not important what the answer was. I think it
Speaker 1: might have been me. Maybe it was less. I don't
Speaker 1: remember the answer from Peter in that moment. But because
Speaker 1: Mark didn't get it from you, he's been asking multiple
Speaker 1: guests on our show, Pete for like that same thing.
Speaker 1: He's looking for that validation and maybe the tip unsolicited
Speaker 1: totally Peter. If that ever happened again, maybe whoever asked
Speaker 1: the question, you just say say to them, because obviously
Speaker 1: that's what they're looking for. I'm just gonna say out
Speaker 1: of it otherwise obviously, and I knew that at the time,
Speaker 1: but I found the question to be to be so
Speaker 1: so self serving from Martha that I couldn't just I mean, look,
Speaker 1: he did a deep dive on Sideline Reporters probably two
Speaker 1: years ago I was interviewed for It was one of
Speaker 1: the best articles I've read on the profession. He's done
Speaker 1: stuff on on Cleveland Browns that that I've read that
Speaker 1: is some of the most fantastic sports writing you will find.
Speaker 1: This kid is as good a journalist and writer that
Speaker 1: the NFL network has under its umbrella. But you can't
Speaker 1: just give out bouquets and roses. You've gotta keep them honest,
Speaker 1: and you gotta keep him hungry. And I think his
Speaker 1: work has actually gotten better and steadily improved since that
Speaker 1: comment was made. Pool side. Would you agree? I think
Speaker 1: I would say this that, uh, you know, yes, that's true.
Speaker 1: You galvanized me to a certain extent um. And I
Speaker 1: I don't think that article would have even made it
Speaker 1: to publication were your words not involved in it. Still
Speaker 1: will go there. Number two, but you know, some of
Speaker 1: the great uh you know relation ships that began his feuds,
Speaker 1: like I think to the iconic uh friendship between macho
Speaker 1: man Randy Savage and Hull Cogan, with Greg sort of
Speaker 1: playing the Miss Elizabeth role in all of this, very
Speaker 1: very productive relationships. So I just think, you know, we're
Speaker 1: in a tough time in our country. Let's use this
Speaker 1: as a as a tent pole moment and move forward. Um,
Speaker 1: I've heard the words I need to see. In fact,
Speaker 1: I might just log off here and go and make
Speaker 1: myself lunch because I feel good before we go ahead, Beauty,
Speaker 1: I feel great about it too. You know, you brought
Speaker 1: up a wrestling reference, which is fair. I would think
Speaker 1: almost far Van Rodgers. Now they take their their like
Speaker 1: you know buddies. They go and they hang out and
Speaker 1: in Hattiesburg, Mississippi, or wherever you know they can. And
Speaker 1: there was an obvious feud and now they've gotten over it,
Speaker 1: and I think everyone is better for it, and I
Speaker 1: am ready to bury whatever hatchets were there. I just
Speaker 1: want to hug you, virtually. The only problem with that,
Speaker 1: I am doing that too. The only problem with that
Speaker 1: comparison is that I bet Rogers and far actually still
Speaker 1: hate each other. But that's west You're you are such
Speaker 1: a good view things clearheaded, your shaman. Uh can you
Speaker 1: please uh can you please put a bow on this
Speaker 1: whole thing before we can get it too? The mock
Speaker 1: draft from Peter, Well, I think the bow would be
Speaker 1: that Peter clearly respects Mark and Greg, but Dan and
Speaker 1: I are up for grabs. To come on. I did
Speaker 1: find it interesting now that Peter is taking credit for
Speaker 1: any growth that Mark has made over the last somehow
Speaker 1: I made it about Puppet. So we we obviously, well
Speaker 1: not obviously, but we're not the most um accomplished journals
Speaker 1: when it comes to college football. One thing to respect
Speaker 1: about Peter Schregor is that Peter knows the whole thing.
Speaker 1: He's he's plugged in. He's a he's a great NFL insider.
Speaker 1: But if you're looking for um a mock draft, he's
Speaker 1: one of the top guys to go to as well,
Speaker 1: because he has that knowledge of the game college and
Speaker 1: pro level, and he's plugged in as an insider. Um.
Speaker 1: And before we get into the mock Peter, I just
Speaker 1: I guess I'm curious little bit your process for when
Speaker 1: you do an exercise list like this a mock draft.
Speaker 1: By the way, good job by you. I don't like
Speaker 1: if I were like a respected college or mock guy,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do eleven mocks either, because I feel like
Speaker 1: that cheapens the brand. You do one to maybe, Um,
Speaker 1: I know Mayak goes next level, just doesn't he drop
Speaker 1: one like right before the draft. But this is your
Speaker 1: first one that just came out. That that's respect Yeah. Um.
Speaker 1: Two things. One I I told NFL dot Com because
Speaker 1: they were like, let's start it off before the cop
Speaker 1: I got, let's do one after free agency when I
Speaker 1: actually know what the rosters look like. And then let's
Speaker 1: do one more two weeks later, and then the day
Speaker 1: before the draft, I'll do a third and final one.
Speaker 1: And we said, okay, that's a good compromised set of
Speaker 1: like eleven of them. Second of all, my process is
Speaker 1: very different than than Daniel Jeremiah's, Bucky Brooks, um Maurice Jones,
Speaker 1: Drew Mine. I will tell you guys right now, and
Speaker 1: I think you guys are are better at this stuff.
Speaker 1: And I I am not an X and O's guy.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you the first thing about what a
Speaker 1: player does in the nickel as opposed to when he's
Speaker 1: just a loane corner like I could talk to talk,
Speaker 1: But I would never fancy myself to tell you here's
Speaker 1: what I think the team should do. And I think
Speaker 1: when we look at Daniel and we look at um
Speaker 1: Bucky and we look at some of these guys mcshaye
Speaker 1: and Kyper, a lot of what theirs is is here's
Speaker 1: what they should do. I fancy myself as the guy
Speaker 1: who bases everything on this and I'll text around and
Speaker 1: be like, what are you hearing? What do you think?
Speaker 1: What about this guy? Does this guy make sense there?
Speaker 1: And if there's a former coach you used to work
Speaker 1: on a staff elsewhere, does that seem like it fits
Speaker 1: the tendencies of this coach? So everything that I put
Speaker 1: forward is based on intelligence from other people. I would
Speaker 1: never fancy myself to be able to to be Ozzy
Speaker 1: k Newsome and put my myself in his shoes, but
Speaker 1: rather I know people who might know Ozzy Knewsome, who
Speaker 1: might know what Ozzy Knewsom might do if the board
Speaker 1: was to fall this way. You're in laws and Baltic friend.
Speaker 1: Potentially they're not. And that's how I wanted. I want
Speaker 1: my mock draft that I read coming from a guy
Speaker 1: that's making phone calls and not just looking at the
Speaker 1: roster and throwing darts. So let's get into it. That
Speaker 1: was a shot across Jeremiah's about um number one on
Speaker 1: your list. Let's just kind of go through. We'll speed
Speaker 1: through the first rescuer. Um Joe Burrow, you have it
Speaker 1: number one? Did you think And there's been a lot
Speaker 1: of theorizing that Cincinnati finally spent some money essentially for
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow to convince him. Do you buy into that?
Speaker 1: Did you hear anything like that in conversations you've had
Speaker 1: or is that more just like a theory that's caught
Speaker 1: fire a little bit amongst the football agnes sentient leading
Speaker 1: into the combine, there's a lot of talk that Burrow
Speaker 1: didn't want to be a Bangal. I got to the combine,
Speaker 1: spoke to people in burrows world. Also Burrow's world also
Speaker 1: spoke to people in the Bengals organization. I think that
Speaker 1: there's a miscommunication of I don't want to be a Bangal.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like Eli, or I'm gonna be like,
Speaker 1: oh well, I won't show up to hey, I'm down
Speaker 1: to play wherever, instead of saying I want to be
Speaker 1: a Bengal. So there's just like middle road. Um, he's
Speaker 1: an Ohio kid. I don't think he wants to be
Speaker 1: the priory of Ohio. I also think what they did
Speaker 1: in free agency was very against the grain for what
Speaker 1: they usually do in free agency. They made a lot
Speaker 1: of moves. I think Joe Burrow is gonna be a Bengal.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be the pride of Cincinnati, Ohio for many years.
Speaker 1: And I think that they're the only way. It wouldn't
Speaker 1: be as if there was some crazy, crazy trade offer.
Speaker 1: And I think even more than like two first round
Speaker 1: picks would have to be like three or four first
Speaker 1: round picks for the Bengals to consider it. But I
Speaker 1: think I feel pretty confident speaking with Zach Taylor, speaking
Speaker 1: with other people in the Bengals organization, that if Burrow
Speaker 1: was their quarterback, they'd be more than happy. And let's
Speaker 1: keep on rolling. If who would make a trade offer
Speaker 1: like that? You hear a little bit about Carolina, Like,
Speaker 1: if there was a team that would trade up to one,
Speaker 1: who do you think would be? I don't see it
Speaker 1: being Carolina. I would think the Dolphins would. You've heard
Speaker 1: a bit about have the ammunition to go and get them.
Speaker 1: And if they wanted to give the first and I
Speaker 1: believe the fifth to go get Joe Burrow. That is
Speaker 1: a haul to get a quarterback. And yet if you
Speaker 1: were to say, that's our franchise quarterback. We want to
Speaker 1: get him and we want to build thing around him.
Speaker 1: I don't know. If Cincinnati says no to that, I
Speaker 1: would toss to you guys the first, the fifth, and
Speaker 1: the eighteen. If you're Cincinnati and you have that giant
Speaker 1: void at quarterback, you know Andy Dalton's let me the guy.
Speaker 1: Do you say, Okay, well, we can't say no to
Speaker 1: those three picks. I think you've got to really think
Speaker 1: about it. If you if there's another quarterback on the board,
Speaker 1: I think that you feel very strongly about I think
Speaker 1: you have to think about that unless you think that
Speaker 1: Burrow's head and shoulders above everyone else. I'm just taking.
Speaker 1: If you believe in Burrow, you just take him. That's
Speaker 1: what I I mean. Talk about a team, and I
Speaker 1: get the Carson Palmer had a nice run there, no doubt,
Speaker 1: but a team that has had absolutely no identity for
Speaker 1: so long, Joe Burrow changes everything, and I three I've
Speaker 1: seen Cleveland, for instance, put up three number one picks
Speaker 1: and you know, two of the three zero impact years later.
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta nail those picks too. I would
Speaker 1: go Burrow all the way. There's precedent here. I've mentioned
Speaker 1: this several times on the show. But Mike Brown is
Speaker 1: a guy who turned down the biggest uh draft pick
Speaker 1: offer I've ever seen, when when the Saints wanted Ricky
Speaker 1: Williams um he turned down the the entire Saints draft,
Speaker 1: another number one, another number one, and a number two
Speaker 1: so he could draft achieley Smith. So my sense, if
Speaker 1: Mike Brown likes a quarterback, he's taking him at number two. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I want to give you the other wild card here,
Speaker 1: And I end up saying this not from anyone in
Speaker 1: that building. There is a whisper or a suspicion that
Speaker 1: the Patriots aren't done at quarterback. And it's not Jamis,
Speaker 1: it's not Cam and it's certainly, you know, not good.
Speaker 1: It might be Andy Dalton, whoever, but that there might
Speaker 1: be some interest in quarterback and they won't be able
Speaker 1: to get a quarterback at twenty three. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it means they want to get Burrow or if
Speaker 1: they want to go up for two oh or if
Speaker 1: they want to get Love or Herbert. But the Patriots
Speaker 1: do not have a lot of draft ammunition. The Patriots
Speaker 1: don't necessarily have many cheap veterans that they can trade
Speaker 1: to Cincinnati. But I would always put the Patriots in
Speaker 1: a conversation of a trade up, just because it seems
Speaker 1: very hard for me to wrap my arms around Stidham
Speaker 1: Hoyer and nothing else going into the NFL season. Here's
Speaker 1: an idea for you. What if Robert Kraft, in one
Speaker 1: of the most machiavellian moves we've ever seen, trades Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick to the Bengals for Burrow number one Overall, you'd
Speaker 1: make Josh McDaniels your head coach, and you just fly
Speaker 1: into the twenties and beyond. I love it. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think Craft is anywhere near that war room,
Speaker 1: but I do love it. If. Yeah, I think if
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick didn't want to work for Woody Johnson, he's
Speaker 1: definitely not working for Mike Brown. The second pick kind
Speaker 1: of a fascinating pick because you haven't Chase Young, Uh,
Speaker 1: the edge rusher that everyone raves about. It's a chalk pick.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you leave the door open
Speaker 1: and your your blurb from the sense of you know
Speaker 1: to uh will be out there at this poor at
Speaker 1: uh most likely. And then what is going on with
Speaker 1: the Redskins and Dwayne Haskins. How do they really feel
Speaker 1: about him? If they really do have doubt Peter in
Speaker 1: that building about the guy they took in the first
Speaker 1: round last year and they really loved one of these qbs?
Speaker 1: Could couldn't you see it being a cardinal situation all
Speaker 1: over again? Well? I could see it being even more
Speaker 1: so because at least in the cardinal situation, Steve Kim
Speaker 1: had to look into the eyes of the owner and say, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: I did draft a quarterback last year, and I'm doing
Speaker 1: it again this year. They're the total you know, Dan
Speaker 1: Snyder is looking at new faces, Kyle Smith's the gm
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera is the new coach, Scott Turners a new
Speaker 1: offensive corner. If they come in, they're like this, Haskins
Speaker 1: doesn't have it. We're taking a quarterback. He's got to
Speaker 1: give them the power to do that. However, and this
Speaker 1: is big, because this is gonna be a story I'm
Speaker 1: telling you throughout the draft and I might have to
Speaker 1: change my mock draft because I've already one of the
Speaker 1: comments I'm getting. There is such a mixed bag when
Speaker 1: it comes to text messages and information and confidence in
Speaker 1: tour right now, and I think any other year, because
Speaker 1: of what's going on in the country right now, any
Speaker 1: other year, a team could be wowed by two A
Speaker 1: once they bring him into their their facility and they
Speaker 1: do the dog and pony show and the car wash,
Speaker 1: and here's TWA on the board and he's the most
Speaker 1: brilliant quarterback we've ever seen. And here's our doctor looking
Speaker 1: at Tah and oh my god, his hip looks amazing
Speaker 1: and his ankles are fine, and this kid's gonna be
Speaker 1: He's got no opportunity, no pro day, no chance to
Speaker 1: go into any of these facilities, no chance to meet
Speaker 1: with any of these coaches in person. He's literally holding
Speaker 1: up a phone and skyping and trying to get So
Speaker 1: I look at that, and I look at Ron Rivera
Speaker 1: and say, okay, Rivera is a defensive coach. Rivera is
Speaker 1: looking at Dron Payne and Jonathan Allen and Kara again
Speaker 1: and Matt Ianitas and we have a strength here, But
Speaker 1: why not get the best defensive player in this draft
Speaker 1: and maybe in the past few drafts. Add him to
Speaker 1: our lineup, and then we're in an identity. We've got
Speaker 1: Chase Young and Haskins. Look, he's got a year under
Speaker 1: his belt. He's gonna learn Scott Turner's offen and then
Speaker 1: we can maybe reassess after this instead of taking this
Speaker 1: huge swing on a quarterback who they've never met in
Speaker 1: their building and their doctors haven't had a chance to
Speaker 1: examine since the combine back at the end of February.
Speaker 1: I just think this whole entire coronavirus affecting so many
Speaker 1: millions of Americans, and in our little bubble of the
Speaker 1: one percent in the NFL and these college prospects, it
Speaker 1: might not negatively impact any player more than two of
Speaker 1: just because he can't show what he's got and his
Speaker 1: doctors of these teams can't see him. I don't see
Speaker 1: them with the second overall pick taking to up based
Speaker 1: on what the circumstances are in the country. Right now,
Speaker 1: it still feels like that's that's sort of stuff you
Speaker 1: you hear, and you'll hear negative things about who I'm
Speaker 1: sure leading up to the draft, about a lot of
Speaker 1: you know, top shelf quarterbacks, you know, leading up to
Speaker 1: the draft. But this is a guy that and I'm
Speaker 1: sure you heard this stuff too. This is the guy
Speaker 1: that people thought Stephen Ross, the owner of the Dolphins, wanted,
Speaker 1: you know, eighteen months ago. So this is so to me,
Speaker 1: like the fact that they can't work them out or
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's Dolphins or the lines, whoever it
Speaker 1: is that would take him. I just feel like any
Speaker 1: quarterback is such a leap of faith that I don't
Speaker 1: I don't buy that hill slip at all. And I
Speaker 1: still could imagine a scenario where where teams trade up
Speaker 1: with whether it's Washington or Miami, I mean Washington or Detroit.
Speaker 1: I'd also say this, Haskins got a bad rap last
Speaker 1: year within that building. Whispers came out and I got stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, new staff, fresh page Haskins. You know who
Speaker 1: knows they might fall in love with Haskins, And he's
Speaker 1: a real opportunity these last few months to be the leader,
Speaker 1: especially in the situation this this team is in, and
Speaker 1: this organization and every organization is where the quarterback now
Speaker 1: has more contact with the rest of the team and
Speaker 1: probably knows him better than a new coach. So I
Speaker 1: would think Haskins has a real opportunity to get those
Speaker 1: guys under his wing and proved to that organization. No, no no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm the guy. Don't move on from me just yet.
Speaker 1: More intrigue. Get pick three. Uh, Peter Schreger chat with
Speaker 1: Peter Schreeger his mock draft at NFL dot com. Uh.
Speaker 1: You have the Lions staying put right now at Jeff
Speaker 1: taking Jeffacuda the cornerback from Ohio State. Um. There is
Speaker 1: so much speculation and it makes so much sense with
Speaker 1: the Lions seemingly happy where with where they are at
Speaker 1: the quarterback position to trade out of this pick and
Speaker 1: pick up a huge bounty of picks. But you see
Speaker 1: him right now is more likely to use that pick
Speaker 1: and help their defense, which needs a lot of it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say Matt Patricia's got one year left
Speaker 1: or Bob Quinnet, but there's there's been a couple of
Speaker 1: years of of missing the playoffs. Now you're going in
Speaker 1: to your third year as the head coach. You are
Speaker 1: close in a lot of games, and you lose Darius
Speaker 1: slay In a Kuda who I met with at the combine.
Speaker 1: We had him on Good Morning Football down there, he
Speaker 1: was fantastic. Is one of these prospects that across the board,
Speaker 1: they're like, sure thing, you know and I know, no guy,
Speaker 1: it's a short thing, But chase young Jeffacuda. If you
Speaker 1: want two guys that you know you could plug in
Speaker 1: right away and contribute at a high level, go for it.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that the Lions won't trade back,
Speaker 1: but I would say this, to get a sure thing
Speaker 1: and a franchise cornerstone and a guy that they know
Speaker 1: can contribute, especially if they feel like you know their
Speaker 1: their their seats are hot or whatever it is. I
Speaker 1: think that's more likely than trading back and getting a
Speaker 1: bunch of second and third round picks for this thing.
Speaker 1: I think a coupe of the Allions makes a lot
Speaker 1: of sense. Oh I belived. If I was Allions fan,
Speaker 1: you had a short thing in Darius Slay. Give me
Speaker 1: a break. How are you getting better as a team
Speaker 1: if you just go ahead and draft a cornerback after
Speaker 1: you traded the last good cornerback. I would be so
Speaker 1: upset if I was Allions fan and they did that, Well,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be paying Jeff A Kuda one tenth of
Speaker 1: what Darius Slay is gonna write. But are you a
Speaker 1: better team? No? But I look at the cornerback position
Speaker 1: and saying, Okay, who is it? Who is it out there? Okay, No,
Speaker 1: I'm Patricia, I'm a defensive coordinator and I'm a coach. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They can have it both ways, though, the fact that
Speaker 1: they might be trading back to five or six or
Speaker 1: or work care line, I mean, that's kind of having
Speaker 1: your cake and idiot two. If you can get picks
Speaker 1: and you're still getting a top five or six player,
Speaker 1: then that's that's pretty nice. For a team like the Lions,
Speaker 1: who need more than just one player, there's there's gonna
Speaker 1: be quite a game of poker on this to a thing,
Speaker 1: I bet you, because I remember last year and Ian
Speaker 1: might have been the one reporting and I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he was fed false information, but I think Schefter might
Speaker 1: have had it too. But like the Raiders, No, but
Speaker 1: the Raiders really like Haskins was like a big story,
Speaker 1: and then I think Schefter had something similar where it's like, wait,
Speaker 1: the Raiders are in the quarterback market. They the fourth pick,
Speaker 1: you know, or third pick whatever. It was, like that
Speaker 1: stuff happens right before the draft, and it's real like
Speaker 1: people will tell you that and you have to kind
Speaker 1: of wait and whatever it is. I think the ta
Speaker 1: thing is gonna happen in about a week or two
Speaker 1: where everyone's gonna be saying that they're hearing too, because
Speaker 1: I think a lot of these teams might not be
Speaker 1: as interested into it and might want to hear what
Speaker 1: the offer is for to uh so be aware or
Speaker 1: be ready for that. And I'm not sure. I don't
Speaker 1: have one team and includes the Dolphins that has been
Speaker 1: banging down the door telling me, we absolutely love to
Speaker 1: he's our pick if he's there, And I think that
Speaker 1: could be something to examine, especially if Detroit at the
Speaker 1: three spot feeling pretty good about trading back, You're gonna
Speaker 1: need someone wanting to trade up to get to uh. Well,
Speaker 1: you have the Giants and everyone knows dave Yentlemans never
Speaker 1: traded away a first round pick or traded down uh
Speaker 1: and you have them. Taking Jedrick Will's offensive tackle makes
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. They got their quarterback last year
Speaker 1: and now they're gonna build a line with the best
Speaker 1: offensive linement prospect in the draft. And then at at
Speaker 1: pick five uh and six two quarterbacks. So you have
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, yes going with ta uh, and then Justin
Speaker 1: Herbert going to the Chargers with the sixth overall picks.
Speaker 1: So the big three quarterbacks come off the board within
Speaker 1: the first six picks, and that could flip flop. Like
Speaker 1: if the Dolphins take Herbert, I wouldn't be surprised at all.
Speaker 1: If the Dolphins take Justin Love at five, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be shocked up. I don't know who the Dolphins have
Speaker 1: number one on their board at quarterback. I do think
Speaker 1: they're taking a quarterback at five, and then I would
Speaker 1: think that the Chargers would take a quarterback at six,
Speaker 1: despite all their offensive line needs and how strong an
Speaker 1: offensive line class it is. From what I gathered, they
Speaker 1: were very heavy in the Brady sweepstakes. They didn't get Brady.
Speaker 1: Tyrod's a great starter for it, We'll not great, but
Speaker 1: you know he's a starter for a year and a
Speaker 1: good mentor and all that stuff. I would be surprised
Speaker 1: if those two teams don't go quarterback five, six. I
Speaker 1: I can't say I'm certain what order after Burrow, but
Speaker 1: I think quarterback, quarterback five and six. And my one
Speaker 1: note of where we are, you know, six picks in
Speaker 1: and I it continues as we go down. Your first
Speaker 1: round here is a it's one of the best, you know,
Speaker 1: in terms of what people are saying about, one of
Speaker 1: the talent, richest first rounds in a long time, to
Speaker 1: the point where like all these players seem to be
Speaker 1: falling exactly where teams want them to. I mean, I
Speaker 1: I just I'm accustomed to thinking, if you're the Chargers
Speaker 1: and you're at number six, you better trade up to
Speaker 1: get that quarterback. But but there's these other guys here
Speaker 1: that make this scenario much more realistic than in the past. Yeah. No, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and that's why Akuda Chase Young will be the second pick.
Speaker 1: I'd be shocked if he wasn't. But like a Kuda
Speaker 1: is a complete wild card. Jedrick Wills, Yes, Gettleman hasn't
Speaker 1: traded back, but Joe Judges a new coach. And how
Speaker 1: many different ex Patriots are front office guys now and
Speaker 1: how many Patriots former assistants are head coaches now. There's
Speaker 1: definitely a dialogue that could happen there where he's like, hey, look,
Speaker 1: you know Flora has called me. I've worked with him
Speaker 1: ten years. He's gone, or Patricia's on the phone, whatever
Speaker 1: it is, Belichick's on the phone. I think those relationships
Speaker 1: matter more so than the history of Dave Gettlman never
Speaker 1: trading back from the force spot your next three picks,
Speaker 1: You've got three defensive players coming off the board. Isaiah
Speaker 1: Simmons UH linebacker safety at a Clemson to the Panthers,
Speaker 1: Derek Brown defensive tackle out of Auburn to the Cards,
Speaker 1: and then Javon kim Law, defensive tackle out of South Carolina.
Speaker 1: Thoughts about that spot of the draft. Yeah, so Isaiah Simmons,
Speaker 1: if he's there, I think that would make sense. Clemson guy,
Speaker 1: South Carolina, Um, you know state, and then obviously we've
Speaker 1: got the South Carolina and then the Carolinas with the Panthers.
Speaker 1: And I think he's fast, and he's fierce, and he's
Speaker 1: a leader. It's like Matt Rule, like just intense. Um.
Speaker 1: I'd be surprised, even especially after the DeAndre Hopkins trade,
Speaker 1: if Derek Brown was still on the board at eight
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals, who are desperate for defensive line help,
Speaker 1: wouldn't take him there. And then kin Law is really
Speaker 1: me with like you said, the dart at the dart
Speaker 1: board here, I can't tell you what Marone and Dave
Speaker 1: cal Weller thinking. But I would say this a lot
Speaker 1: of juice around kin Law after the combine. Very raw prospect,
Speaker 1: but a guy that everyone's talking about, and after him
Speaker 1: on the defensive line, things get a little thinner. I
Speaker 1: think he's the last top tier defensive line prospect. And
Speaker 1: knowing that the Jaguars lost Clays Campbell unique and Gockway's
Speaker 1: probably a question mark with his future there. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be shocked if they paired Josh Allen with kin Law
Speaker 1: inside and said, Okay, at least we've got our sturdy
Speaker 1: frontier and going forward with the Jaguars, I've seen a
Speaker 1: lot of speculation that there could be for offensive lineman
Speaker 1: off the board uh in the first ten picks. You
Speaker 1: you have it in this mock draft that by the
Speaker 1: time the Browns pick at ten, Uh, there's there's just
Speaker 1: one guy off the board. So McKay Beckton uh goes
Speaker 1: to the Browns at ten and at eleven, another offensive
Speaker 1: line needy team, the Jets, who like the Browns, tried
Speaker 1: to address their offensive line in free agency. They will
Speaker 1: then take Tristan Worths out of Iowa. That that makes
Speaker 1: a lot of sense for the Browns. Let's start there
Speaker 1: and then we'll get to the Jets, because I have
Speaker 1: a thought on that is there any way, the Browns
Speaker 1: don't take an offensive tackle if it shakes out like
Speaker 1: this where they have the pick of you know, three
Speaker 1: of the four top guys. Yeah, if one of the
Speaker 1: star defensive players falls to them. I mean there's a
Speaker 1: lot of whispers about Clowney maybe being signed by the
Speaker 1: Browns if the Seahawks don't strike a deal with him
Speaker 1: in the coming weeks. And if that's the case, then yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they should go offensive line. But like if
Speaker 1: Derek Brown somehow slipped, or if say Akuta somehow slip,
Speaker 1: I think they would listen to that, especially, uh, knowing
Speaker 1: that they they've got they've needed help all over the place.
Speaker 1: But to me, you've got all these offensive weapons, you know,
Speaker 1: you've got all this firepower, and yet Baker Mayfield was
Speaker 1: running like a chicken with his head cut off all
Speaker 1: last season. I think that offensive line, especially when there's
Speaker 1: four guys including Thomas Um Andrew Thomas including him, and
Speaker 1: becked In and Worths, all these guys, when they're all there,
Speaker 1: I think one of them will fall to ten and
Speaker 1: I think that would be a safe, if not smart decision.
Speaker 1: Would you be happy with that? Mark? Yeah? I mean
Speaker 1: I I think it makes too much sense. You got
Speaker 1: Jack Conklin on the right side, and they had they've
Speaker 1: needed to tackle spots. I can't think of too many
Speaker 1: teams with two raging voids a tackle that succeed. And
Speaker 1: so it's a great draft for it. Why not. I
Speaker 1: haven't seen a mock draft that doesn't really have Cleveland
Speaker 1: taking a tackle at at number ten. So I feel
Speaker 1: like you could even put up your in laws house
Speaker 1: on this one potentially. Uh, Peter, I just it seems
Speaker 1: like a sure thing and less and less like you're saying, Isaiah,
Speaker 1: someone drops to them that they're just fascinating to buy,
Speaker 1: or they say, we know that we're not going to
Speaker 1: keep these wide receivers for around. Go grab Seahee Lamb
Speaker 1: or someone else and blow the whole thing up. But yeah,
Speaker 1: and and Simmons a fascinating prospect because at the combine,
Speaker 1: we're all, you know, jaws, a gape and the whole thing.
Speaker 1: And I said it on the broadcast and got some
Speaker 1: heat from Clemson fans um. But on the combine bro
Speaker 1: I was like it's all great and it's good and well,
Speaker 1: but like you very rarely see a roaming safety go
Speaker 1: top five, you very say, very rare see a a
Speaker 1: linebacker at that size, maybe necessarily mean Devin White went
Speaker 1: in the top five last year. But Giants fans are
Speaker 1: doing flips for As I said, it's not an easy
Speaker 1: plug and play. Whereas if you say this is gonna
Speaker 1: be your left tackle for the next ten years at
Speaker 1: least you hope, so that's a lot easier sell in
Speaker 1: the room. So Isaiah Simmons fantastic prospect, great athlete, incredible
Speaker 1: college player. I'm not so sure that there's a guaranteed
Speaker 1: top five or top ten thing with him because I'm
Speaker 1: not so sure where he fits as a comp and
Speaker 1: I'm not so sure it's an easy plug and play
Speaker 1: as here's how he's gonna impact our team right away.
Speaker 1: Other than he's a great defensive player. You know he's
Speaker 1: gonna make plays when he gets put in the game.
Speaker 1: The Jets at eleven, the moves that Douglas made in
Speaker 1: free agency, and he was aggressive in rebuilding the offensive line.
Speaker 1: Um not a lot of huge names on that line.
Speaker 1: But if he feels good about those guys. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can use this pick on
Speaker 1: anything other than a wide receiver. You've got Sam Donald
Speaker 1: in his third year. What other guy that you draft
Speaker 1: in the top five as a quarterback? How many teams
Speaker 1: can you think of never went out and got a
Speaker 1: real deal wide receiver to pair him with on his
Speaker 1: rookie contract, And they've never done that for Donald. I
Speaker 1: think if Douglas is happy with what he's done with
Speaker 1: this line, I think you address that and go get
Speaker 1: one of these guys. You've got Jerry Judy going to
Speaker 1: the Raiders on the next pick, Ceedee Lamb going to
Speaker 1: the Niners to pick after that. Is that? Am I
Speaker 1: crazy to think that this should be a wide receiver pick?
Speaker 1: Not crazy at all if the draft boards to fall
Speaker 1: this way. Yet, Worf's is one of these guys where
Speaker 1: it's like, here's the last offensive tackle in the top tier,
Speaker 1: and here's a guy who comes from Kirk Ference's offense,
Speaker 1: and here's a player who's super athletic and the whole thing.
Speaker 1: And I did the Jets preseason games as one of
Speaker 1: the broadcasters last year alongside Anthony Bell and I ain't
Speaker 1: ego humble brag what a job with those guys, and
Speaker 1: it was a disaster from day one, like in the preseason,
Speaker 1: and then every single time the Jets took the field,
Speaker 1: the offensive line was such a mess. And look McGovern
Speaker 1: and Van Rotten and these guys are fine, but like
Speaker 1: you're telling you, they're not, you know they're not. They
Speaker 1: still might have the worst tackle combination right now. I mean,
Speaker 1: so I agree with you, Dan, it wouldn't be surprising
Speaker 1: because especially Judy and Lamb seem like safe picks. I mean,
Speaker 1: people have the teams have missed on tackles more than anything,
Speaker 1: and Judy and Lamb they move in such a way
Speaker 1: that you just can't imagine them not contributing almost right away.
Speaker 1: And we've seen that out of a lot of receivers
Speaker 1: that said, like, I don't think he feels good about
Speaker 1: his offensive line, uh Joe Douglas, that is, after the
Speaker 1: moves that he's made. I don't think he could. I
Speaker 1: mean George fant and and uh Adoga or Van Rotten
Speaker 1: or their tackles. There are there aren't many teams in
Speaker 1: the NFL I think that would feel worse about out
Speaker 1: their tackles. I get, I totally get that side of it.
Speaker 1: I guess if Douglas and we've been told he's an
Speaker 1: offensive line guy, um, I will know basically when he
Speaker 1: makes that pick. Uh, if he really does feel good
Speaker 1: about what his free agency hall was, he's gonna take
Speaker 1: the wide receiver. But if he thinks he needs to help.
Speaker 1: And if they have this guy, they're having mocked drafts
Speaker 1: where all these top linemen are gone. If the Jets
Speaker 1: have the option of Works or the top wide receiver,
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're gonna be very happy. It's a good debate.
Speaker 1: And I think I remember when the Brickershaw Ferguson was
Speaker 1: drafted the same year as Nick Mangold, and I remember
Speaker 1: being in Radio City and like Jets fans are into
Speaker 1: the history onics and the dramatics when and then you
Speaker 1: know when like someone gets taken, Like oh, I remember
Speaker 1: when when Ferguson got taken. They all were like pointing
Speaker 1: to their heads like smart pick, and then Mangle was taken.
Speaker 1: Like Jets fans also like to fancy themselves as like
Speaker 1: football guys. So if the offensive line pick is the
Speaker 1: pick over a wide receiver, don't be shocked. If Jets
Speaker 1: fans all do like that, that class. You are in
Speaker 1: dangerous territory, Peter. But for see what you're saying. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, Wes, how are you doing? By the way,
Speaker 1: I just want to say hi, do you yeah? What's
Speaker 1: thanks you got going on? I was thinking that was
Speaker 1: a prime opportunity for Hansas on Sessler Crime, where two
Speaker 1: teams in obvious need of offensive tackles. The Jets trade
Speaker 1: in front of the Browns and take their guy. M
Speaker 1: I like that. But they were to trade with the
Speaker 1: Browns or they have to get up even higher. I
Speaker 1: I just take it depends for it just depends that
Speaker 1: these if the tackles fall the way that Peter has
Speaker 1: it here, I think the Browns and Jets would be
Speaker 1: very very happy with that, because other mocks have these
Speaker 1: guys going up a little a little higher, and then
Speaker 1: suddenly you're taking Andrew Thomas, yeah, or or the kid
Speaker 1: from Austin Jackson from from usc Um. I would think
Speaker 1: that ceedee Lamb would be quite a gift for Jimmy
Speaker 1: Garoppol who goes from UM a little bit of limbo
Speaker 1: wondering if Tom Brady's gonna take his job again, to
Speaker 1: all of a sudden getting uh, perhaps the best wide
Speaker 1: receiver prospect on the market. That would be a nice
Speaker 1: little uh turnaround and fortun for Jimmy g Here's the
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I think Oakland and San Francisco there,
Speaker 1: I think, I'm sorry Las Vegas and so I think
Speaker 1: they're both taking receivers there, and I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a combination of the three top ones, Rugs, Lamb
Speaker 1: or Judy. I've heard from people around the league that
Speaker 1: the Raiders love Lamb. I've also heard that the Raiders
Speaker 1: love Judy. So I went with Judy there, and then
Speaker 1: I said, okay, the fourt Niners ago with Lamb. But
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked if it was Ruggs Lamb Judy,
Speaker 1: or if it was Judy Lamb Rugs or if it
Speaker 1: was Judy, or if it was like you know, the
Speaker 1: order of those three is a complete grab bag. At
Speaker 1: this point, I felt, knowing the team needs for what
Speaker 1: the Raiders had and what they can be, going for
Speaker 1: Judy made more sense, but it could easily be Lamb
Speaker 1: if that's how it chakes out. And the Las Vegas
Speaker 1: Raiders have to be thrilled if they get the first
Speaker 1: wide receiver choice on the board, because what team has
Speaker 1: a more glaring need than the Las Vegas Raiders and
Speaker 1: a number one ride receiver after the Antonio Brown fiasco.
Speaker 1: Fiasco is right, You're absolutely right, Saw Peter in one
Speaker 1: of the videos you guys posted, uh for Good Morning Football,
Speaker 1: you think the forty Niners are getting a superstar at
Speaker 1: number thirteen. DJ has Hunt Henry Ruggs in that spot.
Speaker 1: You've got Um Judy, I think, but either way you pair,
Speaker 1: even if you pair a guy like Rugs with Deebo Samuel,
Speaker 1: where you know that theory that your wide receiver corps
Speaker 1: is supposed to be like a basketball team, where you've
Speaker 1: got power forward, you've got point guards. You can put
Speaker 1: the fastest guy in the draft with the most physical
Speaker 1: wide receiver in the NFL. And now you're cooking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think what's so interesting is Deebo Samuel's stock
Speaker 1: over the last eight months. I mean, this is a
Speaker 1: guy who wasn't starting out of training camp last year,
Speaker 1: and yet now we got to the combine and everyone
Speaker 1: I spoke to about this wide receiver group, every single
Speaker 1: front office guy or coach, and I tried talking to
Speaker 1: as many as I can, they're all like, yeah, we're
Speaker 1: looking for that Deebo Samuel type. So he's now the
Speaker 1: prototype going from a player that knows. So now you
Speaker 1: pair him with with another wide receiver, and suddenly you
Speaker 1: have one of the best wide receiver combinations out of
Speaker 1: all the young groups in the league. And Deebo Samuel
Speaker 1: as of October and November wasn't even a household name.
Speaker 1: I think you see the depth of this class in
Speaker 1: the mocks with the white outs, because I feel like
Speaker 1: in any other in a lot of other classes last year,
Speaker 1: for instance, if Lamb or Judy is in that class,
Speaker 1: there there may be top five picks and they're one
Speaker 1: of the people that everyone's talking about a ton going
Speaker 1: into it because they seem about as complete and as
Speaker 1: kind of bulletproof and they do different things well. But
Speaker 1: in a lot of classes they would be one of
Speaker 1: the media's favorite talking points, whereas here they could get
Speaker 1: pushed down to twelve or thirteen. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that will happen, because I think you know, the Panthers
Speaker 1: are there, the Jets are there, There's still teams you
Speaker 1: could see taking receiver earlier. I'll give you a quick
Speaker 1: one here, I said to uh, well respected offensive coach,
Speaker 1: I will give me some comps on these guys. He goes, well,
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy's probably like a Mari Cooper, he says, Ceedee Lamps,
Speaker 1: probably like DeAndre Hopkins and Henry Ruggs is probably the
Speaker 1: closest thing is Tyreek Hill. I'm like, those are three
Speaker 1: of the best wide receivers in football. He's like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's and I'm not being hyperbolic, I'm not exaggerating, Like
Speaker 1: those are the comps. I'm like, well, that's pretty darn good.
Speaker 1: If I can get that at twelve and thirteen and fourteen,
Speaker 1: I need one of those guys on the Jets. At
Speaker 1: fourteen you have Andrew Thomas, so the fourth big tackle
Speaker 1: off the board, and then you have a run of
Speaker 1: three defensive players. Kenneth Murray linebacker to the Broncos at fifteen. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know some of these names, they're kind of newbies
Speaker 1: to me. So I'm gonna give do my best and
Speaker 1: to correct me when necessary. Kill Levan Chasen, Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: Ed Rusher out of LSU to the Falcons at sixteen,
Speaker 1: and Xavier McKinney is safety. It's seventeen to the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I guess it makes sense. Starting with fourteen. There, Peter Um,
Speaker 1: you now have Tom Brady there, might as well get
Speaker 1: that offensive line up to speed and as good as
Speaker 1: possible because Brady, we know, is not moving like he
Speaker 1: used to and he never moved that well to start with, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would basically between I'd be surprised if the Buccaneers
Speaker 1: took any other position than offensive line. And whoever sitting
Speaker 1: there at fourteen, I feel like would be the pick.
Speaker 1: That's that's it, and then you go down from there.
Speaker 1: I think the Kenneth Murray story is the most fascinating
Speaker 1: because he's a guy who was second round talk maybe
Speaker 1: coming out of college, and then he got to the
Speaker 1: combine and everyone's like, oh, he's my favorite player, I
Speaker 1: met favorite player I'm at. His story is great. There's
Speaker 1: a guy who was a sophomore captain at Oklahoma. Think
Speaker 1: about all the talent that's there. Is a sophomore captain
Speaker 1: and when he was eleven years old, his his mother,
Speaker 1: who is I believe a retired police officer, and his father,
Speaker 1: who's a pastor. Um they adopted three special needs children
Speaker 1: and Kenneth Murray helped raise them. And those are like important,
Speaker 1: important little bullet points when you walk into that room
Speaker 1: and the coming and then in his personality, he's like funny,
Speaker 1: he's self aware, and he's super super energetic about leadership.
Speaker 1: So I had multiple teams tell me, like, this guy,
Speaker 1: just if if we had a top ten pick, we'd
Speaker 1: have to consider him. He was that much of a
Speaker 1: leader in a cornerstone and Lincoln Riley speaks to the
Speaker 1: world of him. So I gave him to the Broncos,
Speaker 1: who already have Chub and already have Von Miller, and
Speaker 1: added the big fellow Darrell Casey upfront, and a lot
Speaker 1: of Broncos fans were attacking me saying, well, Henry Ruggs
Speaker 1: is still on the board, there's no way they're passing
Speaker 1: on him to get another defensive player. I just think
Speaker 1: of Vic Fangio and like the way his identity is,
Speaker 1: and here's another defensive leader, and let's just add on
Speaker 1: to it. So wouldn't be shocked if if Murray went earlier,
Speaker 1: wouldn't be shocked if the Broncos went wide receiver. But
Speaker 1: I felt like that was a good fit at fifteen.
Speaker 1: That Kenneth Murray's story, which is um, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of great stuff happening there right, a very similar life
Speaker 1: arc to Greg. Oh. Yeah, I mean I hadn't remember
Speaker 1: I might give back to the community. Is that the
Speaker 1: best player on the Broncos similar bullet points. The best
Speaker 1: player on the Broncos team last year for a lot
Speaker 1: of weeks in the second half of the season was
Speaker 1: Alexander Johnson inside linebacker who sort of came out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: If you Bradley Chubb, Von Miller, Alexander Johnson, and then
Speaker 1: this guy that is that's like the old forty nine
Speaker 1: or four pack of linebacker there. Broncos fans are gonna
Speaker 1: be getting mad at me, by the way, Peter for
Speaker 1: even bringing this up. But have you heard anything about
Speaker 1: Denver and their quarterback room and potentially making a play
Speaker 1: for a quarterback or a veteran guy or they okay
Speaker 1: with Locke and the guys that are behind him. No,
Speaker 1: it's a fair question. Look, everyone gets so sensitive, especially
Speaker 1: with a guy like Drew lock who finished the season
Speaker 1: so well. I remember last year I came out and
Speaker 1: I was like, the fourth is that commin? Like the
Speaker 1: Cardinals are taking Kyler Murray and I just they're taking them.
Speaker 1: And Cardinals fans were so protective of Josh Rosen because
Speaker 1: that was there. They've already invested, and that's what Broncos
Speaker 1: fans are with Drew Lock. But I'll tell you everything
Speaker 1: I've heard out of Denver is that those guys are
Speaker 1: all invested in Drew Lock. And this is not one
Speaker 1: of those situations where second round pick last year and
Speaker 1: nice finished. But let's go get our guy. No. I
Speaker 1: think Drew Lock is the quarterback for the never Broncos
Speaker 1: next season. All right, fair enough, Uh, let us keep moving.
Speaker 1: So you have rugs man, Dolphins fans are gonna be flying.
Speaker 1: Uh if they come out of this draft, after the
Speaker 1: big free agency and then their first two draft picks,
Speaker 1: they go get to playmaker, you know, a high visibility
Speaker 1: offensive players into a quarterback and then Henry Ruggs, the
Speaker 1: third out of Alabama wide receiver at a pair with two.
Speaker 1: That's what you do. If you get a quarterback you
Speaker 1: love and believe in, pair him with another young playmaker
Speaker 1: at wide out. That makes a lot of sense for Miami. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it does. Um if he sat there, if he was
Speaker 1: there at eighteen, he put him with DeVante Parker. That's fantastic.
Speaker 1: That's that's a home run. I the way the draft
Speaker 1: fell for me, That's how it went. Like, I couldn't
Speaker 1: give the Falcons a receiver. I didn't think that the
Speaker 1: Browns were gonna go receiver. And it was like, why
Speaker 1: is rugg still on the board. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's there at eighteen? Scoop him up, you skype that in,
Speaker 1: you zoom that in, whatever you do now in the
Speaker 1: virtual draft that one does, one's pretty easy. But I'm
Speaker 1: probably being a little bit. I don't know. There's no chance.
Speaker 1: There's very little chance to Rugs will still be there
Speaker 1: at eighteen. But the way this thing fail, that's where
Speaker 1: he went. I mean, this is unprecedented, obviously, Peter. But
Speaker 1: are you hearing a lot of consternation from these uh
Speaker 1: team builders about just worrying about the technology and the
Speaker 1: communication on a I actually got ann an argument. I
Speaker 1: spoke to one today coach and assistant coach, and he
Speaker 1: was like, and the thing with Zoom is that it's
Speaker 1: so easy to hack. It's so easy to hack Zoom.
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, there's like eighties stories about hacking
Speaker 1: Zoom out there right now, and and I want to
Speaker 1: tell schefter and I want to tell the reporters who
Speaker 1: are just running with it, like they're we're gonna Bank
Speaker 1: of America and Goldman Sacks and and you know, like
Speaker 1: the Pentagon are on Zoom right now. If people are
Speaker 1: really worried about who the Rams are taking in the
Speaker 1: third round or who the Cardinals might have higher on
Speaker 1: their linebacker board, like, I don't think they're all hiring
Speaker 1: hackers right now to get into it. I would think
Speaker 1: that the world, uh, you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: other companies going on. It's just another company. And yes,
Speaker 1: can you hack into Zoom. Yes, I've heard of crazy
Speaker 1: stories of the New York Public School system is dealing
Speaker 1: with with with people hacking into zooms. But I wouldn't
Speaker 1: make that your first part. I wouldn't be worried about
Speaker 1: the hacking. I'd be more worried about getting your veteran
Speaker 1: coaches and personnelman on the same page in different locations
Speaker 1: and figuring it out. As you know, there's great fear
Speaker 1: of the security of Zoom. Yeah, they're gonna do it.
Speaker 1: They're gonna go They're gonna hack into Merrow Lynch. They're
Speaker 1: not hacking into you know, the Philadelphia Eagles second day
Speaker 1: to draft board. Let let it give me a number
Speaker 1: one to one hundred the if you had to predict
Speaker 1: the chaos level of any technological issues happening during the draft,
Speaker 1: maybe it's one or two. I'm with you, I don't.
Speaker 1: I think tons of companies operate this way, but we're
Speaker 1: dealing with a different group of employees that maybe not
Speaker 1: all of them have operated i T departments. This is
Speaker 1: this is the time. I'm just saying, if we have
Speaker 1: there's the occasional gaff in the perfect war rooms situation.
Speaker 1: So like, do you see one to one hundred, what
Speaker 1: would you give this? Yeah, it's gonna happen. It might
Speaker 1: not happen day one, it's gonna happen at some point.
Speaker 1: There's a million ways happens could happen when the GM
Speaker 1: is not in the same room as the coach who's
Speaker 1: not in the same room as a defensive coordinator, and
Speaker 1: you know, one of their connections goes bad and their
Speaker 1: WiFi freezes, and they make a pick and then it
Speaker 1: opens back up and the defensive coordinator says, well, why
Speaker 1: the heck you pick him? I I would I was
Speaker 1: screaming while you were on mute, like little things like
Speaker 1: that to the entire thing like I talked to a
Speaker 1: team today and it was like, we still don't have
Speaker 1: been given clarity on how we submit the pick, Like
Speaker 1: does it have to come from a text message or
Speaker 1: does it come from zoom? Like that stuff hasn't even
Speaker 1: been hashed out yet, So it's gonna dot com Fantasy
Speaker 1: app exactly right. You don't want to auto draft you
Speaker 1: end up with Antonio Brown. Um, I just I don't know,
Speaker 1: like I don't know where this is gonna go wrong,
Speaker 1: but an opportunity of a gap. And yes, these I
Speaker 1: team men are suddenly the first or second most important
Speaker 1: people in the organization because things better not go wrong
Speaker 1: and you better have a good I T staff. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, I mean I said it on Monday Show.
Speaker 1: We need they need to hire or if they already
Speaker 1: have him in house, the NFL needs to send the
Speaker 1: top I T guys in the world to each of
Speaker 1: these general managers homes or whatever is going on the
Speaker 1: hand to happen. You join Good Morning Football every Tuesday
Speaker 1: morning and do a power ranking list. If I can
Speaker 1: get a power rankings list of I T departments of
Speaker 1: all thirty two teams, I would gobble that up. That
Speaker 1: is a great idea for pretty good. Also, I could
Speaker 1: do another one the next day. I dropped the power
Speaker 1: rankings of the g ms that would need the least
Speaker 1: help and the most help. And people are gonna be
Speaker 1: surprised for Dave Gentleman falls everything. He's gonna go thirty two.
Speaker 1: He might be a little higher than you think. Grandpa
Speaker 1: is like learning some things. That's it. He's been on Zoom,
Speaker 1: he's been on Skype. I've heard all these guys are like,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. I talked to Chuck Pagana. I don't
Speaker 1: think you have a problem is He's like, I was like,
Speaker 1: how you doing, coaches checking in and he's like, I'm
Speaker 1: doing these Skype meetings. I love them. They're great. I'm
Speaker 1: meeting all these kids and like, all right, Pocato's you
Speaker 1: know he's not he's not thirty years old. He's on Skype.
Speaker 1: He's working it. That's true. Well, Peter, uh So, we
Speaker 1: cycled through the front half of the draft. You can
Speaker 1: check out the rest of Peter's right up his mock
Speaker 1: draft one point oh one through thirty two. And Greg,
Speaker 1: you'll be happy to know that the Patriots are they're
Speaker 1: turning the corner with Jeremy Chin, the safety out of
Speaker 1: Southern Illinois, so you don't have anything to worry about
Speaker 1: anymore about the future of your beloved team and Southern Illinois.
Speaker 1: It sounds perfect to me. It makes total sense. He's
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons, but with a lesser name of Jeremy Chin.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Patriots sends they're gonna be totally cool with that.
Speaker 1: When they take a safety they've never heard of with
Speaker 1: the their first pick, they'll they'll be fine. Patriots have
Speaker 1: never never heard of any of the players that they've
Speaker 1: ever taken. Uh, you know, I've never remember a fan
Speaker 1: base being more upset than when they took Logan Mankins
Speaker 1: and they just put him on the All Decade Team.
Speaker 1: Thirty second pick, first round. This guy didn't play for
Speaker 1: Rutgers the Patriots. That's fair, that's true. Guys. I appreciate
Speaker 1: you having me on. It was a it was a return,
Speaker 1: a return to normalcy. I appreciate it, Yes, and it
Speaker 1: is great having you on always. Peter. I'm glad that
Speaker 1: we worked things out. One last thing, one last loose
Speaker 1: end to tie up is we did a game on
Speaker 1: Friday called Text or Tweet where Mark and Erica gave
Speaker 1: us the choice to either send a text that they
Speaker 1: have constructed to someone or a tweet that we tweet
Speaker 1: out into the ether. And when it was Greg's turn,
Speaker 1: Mark and Erica gave him a text to send to you.
Speaker 1: Um and if maybe you could pull it up Mark
Speaker 1: uh Erica theaters I think learning that this text was
Speaker 1: not written originally by me as we speak, I believe
Speaker 1: all right, So can I read you the text? Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's hear it, because I didn't know. I didn't know
Speaker 1: it was some gag and I answered earnestly like an idiot, Um,
Speaker 1: Greg with two geez as, it is in my phone.
Speaker 1: Let me know if you need help with that YETI microphone,
Speaker 1: because I asked him about what microphone. They knew this,
Speaker 1: they they wrote it. It was Mark and market Erica
Speaker 1: wrote this, but I I believe it was genius. I
Speaker 1: know we joke a lot, but I wanted to send
Speaker 1: you a text and just let you know that the
Speaker 1: fact that you respect me the most out of the
Speaker 1: A t N guys just really means a lot to me.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the quarantine that's making me so reflective, but
Speaker 1: I sincerely appreciate you and look up to you. I
Speaker 1: mean I when you told me that, what was my response?
Speaker 1: When when they gave me that that's what I have
Speaker 1: to send it, I said, oh, that's fine. I'm getting
Speaker 1: off easier than anyone. I mean, it goes a little
Speaker 1: heavy on the I'm getting reflective in the quarantine and
Speaker 1: I look like a dufus that. It meant a lot
Speaker 1: to me that you said that, But the rest of it,
Speaker 1: I was fine with it. I'm giving a little love
Speaker 1: about to Peter Schraeger. Why not can I Reachie my response?
Speaker 1: Because I'll tell you this. What happened to me off
Speaker 1: quarantine is that I became really you, like, you know,
Speaker 1: don't sweat the small stuff, get rid of the toxic
Speaker 1: people in your life. Marie condo like all this crap.
Speaker 1: I'm like, really, I'm leaning into it, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, the people that you really appreciate, let them know,
Speaker 1: like FaceTime them, tell them. So I've got Greg's text,
Speaker 1: and I thought he's being earnest. I responded back, ha
Speaker 1: ha ha three has stop that. You're awesome and I
Speaker 1: respect the fact you are not one of those hardcore
Speaker 1: football guys. Instead, you're hilarious, You're smart, and you have
Speaker 1: real interests outside the game. How's that? And then we
Speaker 1: just had a nice, normal conversation. So you brought us together, Erica,
Speaker 1: look at Eric and Mark bringing people to You're welcome.
Speaker 1: What do you think Eric, type of scenario Peter happened? No,
Speaker 1: what Peter wants to hear from you? Yeah, no, I
Speaker 1: think it. I love bringing people together. Well, I'm glad
Speaker 1: that had worked out between Greg and Peter and there's
Speaker 1: no awkwardness there. There was some awkwardness with the listeners
Speaker 1: for me when I sent out my tweet saying that
Speaker 1: I really wanted to hear from all them, and then
Speaker 1: they felt like I was kind of having a laugh
Speaker 1: at their expense. But we worked that out as well.
Speaker 1: The game's a little bit insidious, It's sneaky insidious, but
Speaker 1: it's I'm glad that it all worked out for everybody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thanks Erica, Thank you, Erica, You're welcome. Guys. Peter, thank you,
Speaker 1: my man. That was a great breakdown. Uh and you
Speaker 1: could look for Peters uh next um mock draft two
Speaker 1: point Oh? When is that dropping again? Peter? Next week?
Speaker 1: Probably like next Tuesday or Wednesday. I appreciate you guys,
Speaker 1: Stay safe and uh, Love, Love, Love, the podcast getting
Speaker 1: us a lot of people through some weird times right now,
Speaker 1: I love you too, Peter, and Good Morning Football is
Speaker 1: kind of ramping up to speed as well. You could
Speaker 1: check it out on social on Twitter and Instagram as
Speaker 1: they look for a path in this new bizarre world
Speaker 1: or in uh so. Check out Good Morning Football and
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Speaker 1: Dan hands Is signing off for The Quiet Storm, the Mailman,
Speaker 1: the Old Boss, Rick Hollywood, and a great Peter Ager.
Speaker 1: One day