1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Warning you're about to enter the arena and join the 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: battle to save America with your host, Sean Parnell. 3 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: He he news right now. 4 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy was just ousted as the Speaker of the 5 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: House in this crazy knockdown, drag out fight on the 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: House floor to an emotion to vacate the Speaker of 7 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: the House. 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: It's it's it's an historic vote. 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: Really, I'm frustrated for a lot of reasons, but we'll 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: get into that in a second. Today, I'm super psyched. 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: I've got Rich Barris, the Great and Savage Rich Barris 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: coming on the show very very shortly to break down 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: all the insider baseball. And of course you love Rich Barris. 14 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: If you're if you if you're in the trenches in 15 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: the platoon as part of this show, then you know 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: Rich Bear as well. And I know he's a favorite 17 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: of all of yours. So we're really psyched to have him. 18 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: And by the way, if you're if you're a follower 19 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: of Rich Bear, just make sure to subscribe to my channel, 20 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: Battleground Live. And if you're here as part of Parnell's platoon, 21 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: make sure that you subscribe to Rich Barris's channel. 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: The people's pundit on Rumble. We're both on Rumble. 23 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: We both like each other, we're both army guys, so 24 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: we both believe sort of the same things. And I 25 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: think Rich agreed to come on the show like maybe 26 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: once a week, once every two weeks, so again we're 27 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: building something special. Rich Barris will be here to react 28 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: to all this crazy, crazy how speaker stuff here in 29 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: a little bit, but I want to just jump right 30 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: into it. I told you at the top of the 31 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: hour that I am a little bit frustrated with all this. 32 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: And I am. 33 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: You know, if you followed me from in either of 34 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: my political campaigns, you know that one of my greatest 35 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: frustrations is that when Republicans are in power, they oftentimes 36 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: screw it up and they fail to wield that power effectively. 37 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: Now I understand that the Republican Party by and large 38 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: doesn't represent the base well and it it frustrates the 39 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: hell out of me. I know it frustrates the hell 40 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: out of a lot of you as well. And by 41 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: the way, I agree. I know Matt Gates, I know him. 42 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: He's a good guy. I know Kevin McCarthy, he's a 43 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: good guy as well. I know both sides of their argument. 44 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: For Kevin McCarthy, he's just I'll tell you, he's just 45 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: really really frustrated for what Matt Gates did to him 46 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: very early on last year when he was running for speaker, 47 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: the fifteen votes and everything else, which ultimately, I think 48 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: debates like that on the House floor are actually good 49 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: for our country, good for the American people to see 50 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: that process. I think it's good that things are earned 51 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: and not giving for the most given for the most part. 52 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: So I like to see that debate over who should 53 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: be speaker. Do I think it should have gone on 54 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: for fifteen sixteen votes? 55 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: No, I don't. I thought that was a little bit tedious. 56 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: But nevertheless, McCarthy clearly has personal animus against Gates because 57 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: of that, and Gates clearly has personal animis against McCarthy 58 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: for rekindling. Now again, the Speaker of the House is 59 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: not responsible for ethics investigations, right, but they can wink wink, nod, 60 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: nod and and steer things in the right direction from 61 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, of course, because of course that's just 62 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: how the political system works in Washington. So the Biden 63 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: DOJ kill doesn't prosecute Matt Gates on anything, And by 64 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 1: the way, that should tell you something. The Biden DOJ 65 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: prosecutes any Republican for anything, even if there's the slightest 66 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: bit of evidence, So that tells you everything you need 67 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: to know about the evidence against Matt Gates. 68 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: There's clearly nothing. 69 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: But strangely, as that investigation stops, there's a House ethics 70 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: investigation into Matt Gates that was rekindled shortly after that. 71 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: That clearly clearly, if you've got kids around, go with 72 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: go ear mouse Rea real quick. But that clearly pissed 73 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: off Matt Gates. And frankly, that to me is the 74 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: core of why this all is happening. I mean, at 75 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I think this is these 76 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: two people, Kevin McCarthy Matt Gates. I think they don't 77 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: like each other. Now I understand policy discussions on either 78 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: side of this. Wow, I understand where Kevin McCarthy's coming from. 79 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: I understand where Matt Gates is coming is coming from 80 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: as well. In fact, it's hard to disagree with any 81 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: of Matt Gates's policy standpoints on this issue. However, Okay, 82 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: and I talk to you all about this yesterday, and 83 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: even some of you called me a rhino, which like, 84 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: if you think that I'm a rhino, I got nothing 85 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: for you because I am the total opposite of that. 86 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: But but as far as as far as Matt Gates 87 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: is concerned, I like him. I agree with all his 88 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: policy positions on this. What I disagree with is the mess, 89 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: the tactical, the tactics of all of it, the method 90 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: by which he's doing this. You know, it's not like 91 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: we have a twenty seat majority in the House of Representatives. 92 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: It's not like we have a veto proof majority in 93 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: the House of Representatives. 94 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: We don't. 95 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: And what bothers me is that we have a razor 96 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: thin margin. Republicans are fighting out there in the open 97 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: while Democrats who who like have like what like, are 98 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: five seats down, like all it takes is five Republican 99 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: votes to flip or there about, and then Democrats win 100 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: on certain issues. So again, razor thin margin in the 101 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: House of Representatives. But you've got Democrats taking potshots, talking 102 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,679 Speaker 1: smack the entire time, and I can't wrap my mind around. 103 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: And this is something that that I really struggle with. 104 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: Where you have I think I think there are eight 105 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: Republicans now who voted to oust Speaker McCarthy, but only 106 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:27,559 Speaker 1: eight Republicans did that. Every single Democrat again, they didn't 107 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: break ranks. They voted also to oust Speaker McCarthy. So 108 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: it's at the end of the day, you have a 109 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: very very very very very very small minority of Republicans 110 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: voting to out Speaker McCarthy and the vast majority of 111 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: Democrats who did it as well. And that just can't 112 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: I can't wrap my mind around that. I don't like that. 113 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: Something about that really bothers me. On almost any other issue, 114 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: those Republicans would be branded as outsiders of the party. 115 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: I mean, think about the Obamacare vote and John McCain, 116 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: just to see left the Senate voted for Obamacare, thereby 117 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: betraying his constituency, betraying his state, and really spitting in 118 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: the face of Donald Trump, who's a newly minted president 119 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: at that time. I mean, people loathe John McCain for 120 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: that vote. I mean, this is to me, I kind 121 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: of it's a similar thing if you're gonna go toe 122 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: to toe with the Speaker of the House and disagree 123 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: with him on many procedural issues. Okay, again, I agree 124 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: with Matt Gates in principle and on all of these 125 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: policy things. I would just advocate for Matt Gates and 126 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: others who were in his position to have what I 127 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: like to call tactical patients. You know, the whole idea 128 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: that you don't rush into a kill zone. You might 129 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: come out alive, you might come out victorious, but you're 130 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: gonna come out battered, bruised, and wounded in the process. 131 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: There's a better way to do what Matt Gates is doing. 132 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: And but in fairness to both sides, I want you 133 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: to hear what both of these people have to say. 134 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: And I think I've got a solution as how to 135 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: move forward. But I guess that ship has sailed at 136 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: this point because McCarthy's already ousted as Speaker for now. 137 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: But I want to play you this video of Paul 138 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: Ryan because I want you to because I'm hoping that 139 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: this will remind you of the time when Paul Ryan 140 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: was actually Speaker of the House and Republicans controlled the 141 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: House of Representatives, the United States Senate, and the Executive 142 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: the Executive Office, the executive branch of our country. As 143 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: President Donald Trump as president, we squandered, we squandered everything. 144 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: We squandered those majorities and Paul Ryan, as a week 145 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: speaker who didn't even want to be speaker, was responsible 146 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: for that clearly. 147 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: And he's by the way. 148 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: It's just as as this motion to vacate has sort 149 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: of has sort of been on the forefront of everybody's 150 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: mind now for the for the vast majority of yesterday 151 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: and today, Paul Ryan is back in the news cycle talking. 152 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: So let's gohead and roll this tape of Paul Ryan 153 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: and see what this idiot has to say. 154 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: Now, I'm hoping we get past Johnald Trump by say, 155 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: g anywhere you know after ilaw in New Hampshire, maybe 156 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 3: South Carolina, if you're a betting person, if you go 157 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 3: to the Vegas side, I'm sure they're saying he's probably 158 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: gets the nomination. I still think there's a reasonable chance 159 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: he doesn't get the nomination. If not Trump, who on 160 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: the Republican side of theil And frankly, I don't know 161 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 3: who it's gonna be. But but I think you say Haley, Scott, 162 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 3: Pence or DeSantis right now, But I don't that's his odds. 163 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 4: If any one of them gets the nomination, I think 164 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 4: they win the presidency. Uh. 165 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: Talk about a man out of his time there's oh god, 166 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: it's so frustrating. And so this is I completely understand 167 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:42,119 Speaker 1: where Matt Gates is coming from because the establishment Republican 168 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: Party does not represent its base. Well okay, people like 169 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: Paul Ryan have completely alienated the party from the base, 170 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: and with comments like that, it's it's fairly easy to 171 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: see why where he's talking about any one of these 172 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: people can beat Joe Biden. I frankly, I don't agree 173 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: with that, and I think I think the polling bears 174 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: that out as well. In fact, I think the person 175 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 1: who's best positioned to win and is no surprise to 176 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: anybody listening to this, but it's Donald Trump. I mean, 177 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: he's the guys by far, the most electrifying political figure 178 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: in my lifetime. He's polling better than he was in 179 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen and twenty twenty, and even better than he 180 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,599 Speaker 1: was in twenty twenty two. So I think Trump is 181 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: stronger than ever. But I want you to also watch 182 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: this video because I want to get the rich bears 183 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: and get his reaction to all of this. I want 184 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: you to hear what Matt Gates said on the steps 185 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: of the Capitol last night. And again, folks, I'm going 186 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: to reiterate, I don't agree. I don't disagree with a 187 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: single damn thing he says here. Okay, I just disagree 188 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: with the tactics. I don't think that there's any championship 189 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: football team, or any championship sports team that survives with 190 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: such public fighting, especially while your political enemy or your 191 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: rivals are sitting there on the sidelines, laughing and prodding 192 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: you all the while. That's not a recipe for success. 193 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: There's a better way to do this. But go ahead 194 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 1: and play this. Frankly, I think it's a it's a 195 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: it's it got me fired up listening to Matt Gates 196 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: talk about this stuff because, as I mentioned you before, 197 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: I agree with him. But let's go ahead and listen 198 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: to what Matt Gates had to say last night. 199 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 4: If you were to move forward, if there were to 200 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 4: be any kind of agreement, what would that look like 201 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 4: and what would you need to see from the speaker? 202 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 5: At his point, I think the die's cast based on 203 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 5: the motion I just filed. I think the time for 204 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 5: that discussion would have been over the last several weeks, 205 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 5: but instead we saw the speaker continuing. I mean, the 206 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 5: speaker did not just fail to remediate the breach of 207 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 5: the agreement with it you made with us in January. 208 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 5: He accelerated the instances of breach, Like after I laid 209 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 5: out the breach, he went. 210 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: And violated the seventy two hour rule. After I laid 211 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 2: out the breach, he violated. 212 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,599 Speaker 5: The one hundred million No Amendment suspension rule. So he 213 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 5: seems to be reverting to the very unfortunate muscle memory 214 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 5: of Washington, DC that has put our nation atop a 215 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 5: thirty three trillion dollar debt that has led to you know, 216 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 5: two trillion dollar annual deficits in our near future and 217 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 5: the rapid. 218 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 2: Global dedollarization of the economy. 219 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 5: When you look at the bricks system, you know, Brazil, Russia, India, China, 220 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 5: South Africa, they're moving away from the dollar. And just 221 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 5: in August they added six new countries, including g twenty 222 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 5: country economies in the Western Hemisphere and golf monarchies. Moreover, 223 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 5: you've seen you saw US News say that the number 224 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 5: one economic trends of twenty twenty three is d dollarization globally. 225 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 2: This worries me. You all get all. 226 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 5: Worked up that there's going to be some uncomfortable chaotic 227 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 5: moment and I'll feel pressure from conservatives or Democrats or whomever. 228 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: I feel the judgment of history. I feel the weight 229 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 2: of that. 230 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 5: I worry that when the history books are written about 231 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 5: this country going down, that my name is going to 232 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 5: be on the board of directors here. And if this 233 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 5: country's going down, and if we're losing the dollar, I 234 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 5: am going down fighting And I don't care if that 235 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 5: means fighting Republicans, Democrats, the uniparty, the leadership, the packs, 236 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 5: the lobbyists. 237 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: I've had it. 238 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 5: I've been here seven years. We don't have a budget. 239 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 5: I haven't had one since the mid nineties. I am 240 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 5: through with it. I apologize for using that word, but 241 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 5: the only path forward here is to have single subject 242 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 5: spending bills that can be reviewed, amended, considered. And I 243 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 5: think that is the responsible way that our legislatures all 244 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 5: over this country operate for good reasons. 245 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 4: For responsigation. 246 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 5: I am the most investigated man in the United States Congress. 247 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 5: I have been cleared by the FBI, the DOJ, the 248 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 5: Federal Elections Commission by a five oz vote. It seems 249 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 5: that the Ethics Committee's interest in me waxes and wanes 250 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 5: based on my relationship with the Speaker I believe that 251 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 5: Speaker McCarthy is trying to signal to the Ethics Committee 252 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 5: to pursue me. When I gave my Sunday interviews yesterday 253 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 5: indicating that I intended to file. 254 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 2: This motion to vacate Speaker McCarthy. 255 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 5: Hours did not pass before Republicans and members of the 256 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 5: Ethics Committee or background and reporters that they wanted to 257 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 5: expel me from the United States Congress for bringing a 258 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 5: motion to vacate under the rules that we negotiated in 259 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 5: January after Kevin McCarthy broke his word. They want to 260 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 5: expel me for Congress from that. So you know what, 261 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 5: I'm built for the battle. I face down tougher than 262 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 5: these folks, and I'll do it again. 263 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 2: Okay. 264 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: So clearly you can tell that Gates is fired up. 265 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: If this is personal, he does not like those ethics 266 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: investigations into him, by the way, and I completely agree. 267 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: I'll say this. 268 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: You know, Gates is upset and ultimately why they killed 269 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 1: Scott Perry's bill, which was the initial budget bill for 270 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: this year, the initial omnibus bill, which again I'm no 271 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: fan of omnibus bills. 272 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: Okay, I get. 273 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: It, but Scott Perry is one of the most conservative 274 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: members of the how he's the chair of the House 275 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: Freedom Caucus. That bill was by and large written and 276 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: negotiated and pushed by him. It was a conservative bill. 277 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: Gates killed that bill. I don't like that he killed 278 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: that bill because now where left with some garbage forty 279 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: five day continuing cr that's with all the radical left 280 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: spending still crammed in it. And ultimately it was what 281 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: some are calling a backroom deal between Kevin McCarthy and 282 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: Democrats to pass that bill for forty five days to 283 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: give the more time to negotiate. But I again, when 284 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: you look at okay, so Matt Gates and company are 285 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: mad at Kevin McCarthy for doing that having one hundred 286 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: plus Democrats vote for a bill, But then how do 287 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: you square that with ousting Kevin McCarthy by having eight 288 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: Republicans vote to oust him in every single Democrat. It 289 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: seems to me that it takes some logical gymnastics. You 290 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: can't live in both worlds, is my point. And moreover, 291 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: there's a Sacro Saint House Republican Conference role that states 292 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: that the motion to vacate should only be available with 293 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: the agreement of the Republican conference so as not to 294 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: allow Democrats to choose the speaker. That role is meant 295 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: to ensure that when Republicans are in the majority, Democrats 296 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: cannot choose a speaker. Enough, Matt Gates like, I love 297 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: the guy, but he violated that role he just did. 298 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 2: I don't like doing that kind of stuff. 299 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: I don't like airing of dirty laundry out there while 300 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: our enemies, our political enemies, can see it all Again, 301 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: I agree with him and principle, disagree with him on tactics. 302 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: And by the way, there's a better time. There's a 303 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: better time to go at Speaker McCarthy. If you want 304 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: to have these conversations. Let's get full swing into the 305 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: impeachment inquiry. Let's get full swing into funding border security 306 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: or building the wall. Let's get full swing into stopping 307 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: fentanyl from pouring into this country. Let's subpoena Hunter Biden. 308 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: Let's do all of that stuff first. 309 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 2: We have the House. 310 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: Republicans, I have the momentum right now, And to me 311 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: this it frustrates the hell out of me because here again, 312 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: we don't control the executive branch. We don't have a 313 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: majority in the Senate. We have a majority in the House, 314 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: and I just feel like we're squandering it all over again. 315 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: We could be using this time to take the fight 316 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: to the Democrats. Instead of that, we're empowering the Democrat 317 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: majority in the House. And if you don't believe me, 318 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: take Matt Gates and take Kevin McCarthy out of your mind. 319 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: Just put them on the sidelines. I don't care where 320 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: you stand on the issue. And I also realize the 321 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: vast majority of you are probably with Matt Gates. I 322 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: sure as he'll know that Brock is Brock is really 323 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: frustrated with the process, and rightfully so, the vast majority 324 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: of Republican voters are frustrated with the process. 325 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: I get it, one hundred percent. 326 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: I'm with you. But the Democrats are celebrating. What does 327 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: that tell you? They like when we're weak, They like 328 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: when we're fighting each other, because when we are in 329 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: disarray here, they can get away with damn near everything 330 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: that they want. And that's exactly what's happening, and so 331 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: so on the flip side of that, as I already 332 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: told you, the Speaker of the House doesn't technically he's 333 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: not technically in charge or in control of who kentuckts 334 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: and ethics investigations. But he can certainly send signals of 335 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: who is in charge. And McCarthy should send a signal 336 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: right now to and this BS investigation into Matt Gates, 337 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: or at least publish the results to get this cloud 338 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: out from over this guy's head. 339 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 2: It's completely unfair. 340 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: Republicans shouldn't be conducting lawfare against other Republicans. And ultimately 341 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: it's this personal fight between the two. It's the reason 342 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: for all this drama and distraction that we're facing that 343 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: we have now on the House floor. If the Biden 344 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: DOJ declined to prosecute, that should tell you something. So 345 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: it's frustrating to me that Republicans are stabbing each other 346 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: in the back, left and right. And when we do that, 347 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: not just our party and our movement, not only does 348 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: it hurt our party in our movement, it hurts our 349 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: country because these Democrats are crazy. If you don't believe 350 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: that we are in the midst, because we are in 351 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: the midst of a great cultural revolution being led by 352 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: these communist mouth breathing Dems in the House and in 353 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: the Senate and then the White House, then you are wrong. 354 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: In every single second that we are distracted from that 355 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: mission of stopping them is a second, that they are 356 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: closer to the wholesale destruction of this country in everything 357 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 1: that we hold dear, because believe me when I tell 358 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: you that that's exactly what they're focused on. And so look, 359 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: I got Rich Barriss here. I don't want to wait 360 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: even another second to bring him on. Let's bring on 361 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: Savage Rich. Barris is here with me. I hope, I 362 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: hope Savage Rich comes out tonight. As Brock said, and 363 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: I want to read something to you. You tweeted something out. 364 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: I want to read that back to you, and I 365 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: want you to react to it. And I thought, as usual, 366 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: it was super interesting, you said on Twitter moments after 367 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: McCarthy was ousted as speaker. You said, the motion to 368 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: vacate path sixty to two hundred and ten. Kevin McCarthy 369 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: has been ousted as speaker. 370 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 2: One. 371 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 1: If McCarthy acted on political weaponization, perhaps Trump would have 372 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: been too Trump's would not. Trump would not have been 373 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: too busy and unwilling to save two. McCarthy and McConnell's 374 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: sabotaged MAGA in twenty twenty two to avoid this very 375 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: outcome this fascinating stuff. 376 00:18:59,000 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 2: Man. 377 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 4: Well, thanks for having me on as always, Sean. You know, 378 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 4: I just don't and I get this is you know, 379 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 4: personally my own feelings. This is a tough spot for 380 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 4: me because I I'm like you and I think like 381 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 4: a strategist. House divided cannot stand you know. Yeah. But 382 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 4: at the same time, I'm a polster now and I 383 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 4: listen to voters all the time, so I can't help 384 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 4: but to I can't help it to at least point 385 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 4: out that they're in this position because of their own fault, 386 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 4: you know. They they are here because they're not serious people. Folks. 387 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 4: During the vote, somebody jumped up and said, pull the 388 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 4: fire alarm. This is why we're in the position we're in. 389 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 4: I mean, the circus is in the Congress, it has 390 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 4: been for a long time. You have Fox News correspondence 391 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 4: idiot tools who eat two hundred dollars lunches in DC 392 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 4: every day, pretending to represent the Republican voter saying, you know, 393 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 4: this is because the rank and file has been at 394 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 4: war with leadership. It's the e opposite tool. The leadership 395 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 4: has been at war with the rank and file forever, Sean, Forever, 396 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 4: for as long as I've been in this business, they 397 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 4: lie to their voters to get elected. You brought up 398 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 4: John McCain before, What a great example. Paul Ryan squandered 399 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 4: Republican full control of government in twenty sixteen, which, by 400 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 4: the way, in twenty seventeen, which, by the way, they 401 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 4: never would have won without the guy he hates so much. Right, 402 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 4: And he goes up to the microphone and he says, 403 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 4: I heard he heard a voice that none of us heard, 404 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 4: and now I hear that voice too, and we're going 405 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 4: to respond to It was the biggest crock of you 406 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 4: know what, I think I've ever seen a politician spew. 407 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 4: And then he went right back to stabbing Donald Trump 408 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 4: and the voters in the back. John McCain spent the 409 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 4: last couple of days of his life putting his disgusting, 410 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 4: crusty old man finger down to break a seven year 411 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 4: campaign promise that we're Republicans. Gave voters winning majorities in 412 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 4: Congress with that promise, just despite Donald Trump, because he's 413 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 4: a tiny little man. This is what we're dealing with. 414 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 4: And I understand Gates's point of view, and I understand 415 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 4: the voter's point of view, and I also understand. Frankly, 416 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 4: even McCarthy's point of view, the guy has a few 417 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 4: vote majority. He's trying to give everybody you know enough 418 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 4: to hold the glue together. But this last one, I mean, 419 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 4: you got to get out of that town once in 420 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 4: a while, Kevin, you all do if you didn't realize 421 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 4: that with the border. I mean even Elon Musk is 422 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 4: there last weekend talking to border pature. This is an invasion, 423 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 4: and he forsakes them and make sure he what rubs 424 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 4: elbows with Biden quietly to make sure that Ukraine is funded. 425 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 4: I mean, Sean, I mean, there's only so many times 426 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 4: you can drive toward the wall before the car doesn't 427 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 4: stop in time. 428 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 2: Okay, so I. 429 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: So, so before we move on, I got a quite 430 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: So if you're with us right now, folks, if you're 431 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: watching my show and this is the first time you've 432 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: seen Rich Barris, I didn't get him on the thumbnail 433 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: because Rich confirmed before we had already posted the episode. 434 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: But make sure you go and like and subscribe to 435 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: People's Pundit page. 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Okay, Savage, Rich, 445 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: give us a sense of give us. So it was 446 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: initially projected that only six Republicans would vote to Alison Speaker, 447 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: but it looks like eight. Did do you have Do 448 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: you have those names? 449 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 2: Handy? I know it was obviously Matt Gaets. 450 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I know Eli Crane was one of them, 451 00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: but Good was one of them. 452 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 4: Mace was a bit a bit of a surprise for people. 453 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 4: So let me make sure I get them all. It 454 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 4: was Mace, Birchett Crane, Bob Good, Eli Crane, Matt Gates, 455 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 4: and I mean probably the audience will even help us 456 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 4: out a little bit. I did have them all. I 457 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,719 Speaker 4: was gonna have the right in front of me, but 458 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 4: Mace was on the line. I mean it was like 459 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 4: two o'clock and it was clear that she was, you know, 460 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 4: leaning towards vacating the chair, and it was like forty 461 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 4: five minutes before three finally get I don't know, I'm 462 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 4: kind of wish she was. She's still, but just something 463 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 4: about it Sean led me to believe she was going 464 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 4: to be yes. So I wasn't surprised, but she was 465 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 4: a Sparks was in no. Stephanic was in no. Although 466 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 4: Stephanic really wasn't in doubt, Sparks was. You know, eight 467 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 4: is a bigger number than I think a lot of 468 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,959 Speaker 4: people thought. I thought, you know, it was, we were 469 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 4: really looking at six solid ones. And again, I really, 470 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 4: I know it's a tough question for people to ask 471 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 4: but or answer, but I really just got to point 472 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 4: out that eight is more than we thought. This is 473 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 4: a historic day. This hasn't happened in more than one 474 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 4: hundred years. When what's his name, Joseph Gunny Cannon, he 475 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 4: was a Republican from Illinois, was a speaker. He basically 476 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 4: dared the Congress. They were like, you know, he was like, 477 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 4: you don't like me, vote vote to vacate the chair. 478 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 4: I don't care. And he was like one of those 479 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 4: old hearts, hardcore old school Republicans from the twentieth century 480 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 4: in nineteenth century and he won that vote. So this 481 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 4: is the first time in history. McCarthy's also the shortest 482 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 4: serving one so or no shortest, second shortest serving, so. 483 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: He might be the stal I think he might be 484 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: the shortest sort of serving a second. 485 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 4: I'll make sure I get I'll make sure I get 486 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 4: that for people on Twitter later, because there is one 487 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 4: more than I'm I'm thinking it's on the line, but 488 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 4: maybe I'm wrong, And I think it's like enough history 489 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 4: that we pause and asked ourselves, well, why how did 490 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 4: we get here? And of all the time I've ever 491 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 4: been upholster, well, something always jumped immediately out at me. Democrats, 492 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 4: you know, always when we do congressional leaders, their favorability ratings. 493 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 4: Democrats may be unpopular. Take somebody like Nancy Pelosi when 494 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 4: she was the speaker, she had one of the worst 495 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 4: combined unfavorable ratings. Mitch McConnell always had the highest very unfavorable, 496 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 4: but she had the worst combined and it was solely 497 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,719 Speaker 4: due to like universal hatred among Republicans and a solid 498 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 4: majority of independents. But Democrats circle the wagon. 499 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: They like their always right right, So Rich, where do 500 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: where do we go from here? This is what the 501 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: rest with Republicans. Republicans put their foot in their mouth 502 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: and then they shoot themselves in the foot. 503 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: That yeah, yeah, So it looks like it could be. 504 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: Obviously, the Dems are going to nominate Hakeem Jefferies and 505 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: then there's going to be another fifteen to sixteen votes. 506 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: But I don't think McCarthy is going to step down. 507 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: I mean, the guys got well over the sport the 508 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 1: vast majority, over two hundred Publicans support this guy. Where 509 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: do we go and does does this does do these 510 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: many up and coming votes, does it lead to McCarthy 511 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: going to Gates and say, Okay, I'm going to give 512 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: you more concessions on say border security and or hey, 513 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: how about this. I'm not going to give the Democrats 514 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: a House vote on a do Ukraine? I mean, does 515 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: he make concessions to to Gates because McCarthy is already 516 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: uh said very publicly that I don't care if he 517 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: gets I don't care if I get out to the speaker. 518 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: I'm not making any concessions to the left. 519 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 4: This is where this, this is where I had a 520 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 4: break with this you know, personally with this plan, it's like, well, 521 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 4: what's the end game? And I went to some of 522 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 4: my you know, my MAGA friends, you know. 523 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: Mega Brother. 524 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 4: Yeah it Mega Brother, and they're like, look, you know, 525 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 4: we can bully Jim Jordan a lot easier. 526 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: Jim Jordan doesn't Jim Jordan, I can tell you he 527 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: does not want the job. He's Republicans. He's one of 528 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: the few Republicans that can ask clear, direct questions and 529 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: not grand stand at some of these oversight committee meetings 530 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: in our judiciary. He's extremely effective, he's better used there. 531 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: He doesn't want the job. 532 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 4: He does not want it. It seems like the speakership 533 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 4: when you're a Republican is basically the kiss of death 534 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 4: the end of your career. There are people calling I 535 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 4: kid you not, and I don't know if I should. Yeah, 536 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say it. If he yells at me, 537 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 4: he yells at me. There are people calling David Gillio 538 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 4: and asking him to run against Kevin McCarthy right now. So, like, 539 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 4: you know, this is unbelievable because it's like, you become 540 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 4: the speaker, it's an aspiration of yours, and then it 541 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 4: winds up destroying you. And so if you're Jim Jordan, 542 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 4: you're anybody you don't want it. So I just didn't 543 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 4: see the endgame here, although again I understand from the 544 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 4: voter and the basis point of view, this is an 545 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 4: unsustainable situation. It doesn't matter if it's Jim Jordan. I 546 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 4: heard somebody float Chip Roy. I mean, that's how laughable 547 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 4: this is. Chip Roy is currently in the eight to 548 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 4: ten percent majority right now if you're looking at the 549 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 4: wings of the party being in a proxy fight with 550 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 4: the Republican nomination. He is with Team DeSantis and has 551 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 4: made some of the dumbest statements on the planet, including 552 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 4: crazy Liz Cheney. You know, for I mean the guy. 553 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 4: The guy is a total fraud. Come on, including speaking. 554 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: Of speaking of Liz Cheney, did you hear that Liz 555 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: Cheney had called Hakeem Jefferies after a media appearance last 556 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: night and told a Keem Jeffries to oust speaker McCarthy. 557 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: I mean this, Okay, So this, folks, this is the 558 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: insider baseball that goes on that I discussed. I'm not 559 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm not sitting here telling you like, oh McCarthy's wrong 560 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: or Gates is wrong. No, I'm telling you that I 561 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: understand both sides of this issue. I understand prim and 562 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: agree with Gates on this stuff. But this the Democrats 563 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: are always, always, always scheming, and they will find cracks 564 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: in the Republican conservative movement and find ways to get 565 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: us to turn our guns on each other, I mean 566 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: metaphorical guns, you know. And it just frustrates the hell 567 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: out of me that it seems like we just always 568 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: take the bait rich. 569 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 4: It's It's also true that it's not this is not 570 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 4: solely McCarthy's fault, right, because he was trying to hold 571 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 4: it together in the beginning of his speakership. Even people 572 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 4: who have always been critical of him came out and said, 573 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 4: you know what, you gotta give it to him. Got 574 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 4: to give him credit where credit's due with this. With that, 575 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 4: what Republicans should be doing is going behind closed doors, 576 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 4: not in front of reporters, not in front of the 577 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 4: you know, the you know people you know are going 578 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 4: to leak to the other conference and hatch these problems out. 579 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 4: Don't air your dirty laundry in public. The problem again, though, 580 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 4: is that, you know, because I don't like the people 581 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 4: who are saying, man, you know, Gates his grand standing. 582 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 4: No he's not. He got to a point where he 583 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 4: ran out of procedural ways to affect change. So he 584 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 4: popped the He popped the pin John in the middle 585 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 4: of the room. That's what he did. 586 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: He eventually said. 587 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 4: That's it. We're all going together, you know, you know. 588 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 2: So that's good, that's a good and that's a good comparison. 589 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 4: Actually, that's I think that if leadership and people will 590 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 4: say rich, what else could leadership bend on? Well, how 591 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 4: about be what you say you are when you run 592 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 4: for office. It is not or shouldn't be lost on 593 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 4: anybody right now. That Donald Trump's lead over Joe Biden 594 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four is about twice as big as 595 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 4: the Republican lead over Democrats on the generic ballot in 596 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four. So there are voters who trust Trump 597 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 4: don't trust the party. And every time, and it's so 598 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 4: easy to identify what it is. There are two things 599 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 4: going on. You have Republican stalwarts that are that when 600 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 4: I was talking about favorability before, they don't like their 601 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 4: own leader, Sean. That's why Republican leaders are always so negative. 602 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 4: And you know their ratings are typically more negative. They 603 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 4: won't circle the wagons around their leader for the sake 604 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 4: of that, you know, because simply they are the leader 605 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 4: of their party. They won't do that. Republicans don't feel 606 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 4: represented Democrats do so. For Democrats, well, the rest of 607 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 4: the country hates the leader's guts, they still stay behind 608 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 4: them because they feel like they're representing them. I elected 609 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 4: you to do that. Take the heat, do whatever you 610 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 4: got to do. You know, you got my support. It's 611 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 4: the opposite with Republicans. They feel like every time it's 612 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 4: election year, they tell them whatever they would think they 613 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 4: want to hear. Then they go to Congress stab them 614 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 4: in the back, and it's just it was bound to 615 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 4: reach a boiling point, is I guess my my larger 616 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 4: argument here, this is not a sustainable situation. No party 617 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 4: can survive not representing their voters. You know, you will 618 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 4: become the Whigs. You will become, you know, the series 619 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 4: of parties that have faded to the pages of history 620 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 4: because you didn't do what your voters expected you to do. 621 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 4: So you've flatly lost your constituency. You you were a 622 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 4: party without a constituency. And Republicans have got to realize 623 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 4: the voter doesn't give a damn about Ukraine. Okay, they 624 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 4: don't care about that is an invasion at the southern border. 625 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 4: The Democrats are using the weapons of the police state 626 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 4: power to imprison old people to attack the front runner. 627 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 4: It's like, you know, rise to the occasion, already, rise 628 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 4: to the occasion, be the man, be the leader. You 629 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 4: you ran and said you would be, and they're not. 630 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 4: So it was only for me. It's only a matter 631 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 4: of time. And that's magic because you cannot beat Democrats. 632 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 4: It's hard to beat something like that with a tiny 633 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 4: majority show which you're certainly not going to beat them. 634 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,479 Speaker 1: Divide it, especially when the Democrats are always united one 635 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: hundred percent of the time. I mean they they could have. 636 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: I mean, look at just look at Joe Biden. Look 637 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: at all of the clear and just evidence of outright 638 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: corruption and hunter Biden doesn't interview with Good Morning America 639 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: and says like, wow, now I didn't do anything wrong 640 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: about being on that board of AISMA. No, it's just 641 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: totally fine and totally appropriated. It's just like my mind 642 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: was like like the balls on these people, man, like 643 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: this is and you know why they can get away 644 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: with it. One because even if the media pushes back 645 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: against them. 646 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 2: Rich even if and kudos to that. 647 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: The Good Morning America reporters like, isn't this kind of 648 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: like what America hates about politicians? 649 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 2: And Hunter Biden was like, well, well what Americans saying that? 650 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, basically, everybody do you have, like 651 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: does everybody in Washington have Beltway Brain? When was the 652 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: last time they've left Washington d C. But it's just 653 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: it's just so frustrating to me that the Democrats doesn't 654 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: matter how bad things get, there are just united. And 655 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: and you can't beat a movement that's united with with 656 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: half assed stock platitudes and not being wholly dedicated to 657 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: your base. It's just frustrating. And Brock just texted me 658 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: and so we have over a over a thousand people watching. 659 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: I mean, so, by the way, Rich like, it's pretty amazing. 660 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: If you're watching and you're new to this show, make 661 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: sure you subscribe to my channel like this video. And 662 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: also if if which is first time you've seen Rich 663 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: or you're in the trenches with Battleground Live, make sure 664 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: you take a couple of seconds and search for for 665 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,439 Speaker 1: people's pundit on rumble Go subscribe to his channel there. 666 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: Rich is just I think the best poster in the business. 667 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: I could not speak more highly of him. And by 668 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: the way, generally speaking, you know, if you watch me 669 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: or paid attention to me for a while, I don't 670 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: have a high opinion of most polsters. Rich is one 671 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: that I hold very high regard. So make sure you 672 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: go subscribe to his stuff. 673 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 4: Can imagine why? 674 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, okay, well let me ask you another question 675 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,959 Speaker 1: about Gates. There's all of these rumors swirling about Gates 676 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: about running for Florida governor, and he is just I 677 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: agree that it's it's not just as simple as he's 678 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: out there grand standing, but he's clearly trying to fundraise 679 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: off of this. Now there's some there's some there's some 680 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: FBC regular regulatory stuff that prohibits him from using funds 681 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: raised in a federal run or run raised while he's 682 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: a House member, can't be used for state. All that 683 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 1: stuff differs state by state. But people are saying he's 684 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: running for governor of Florida. He's out of the House 685 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: of Representative Representatives anyway. So to use your analogy of yeah, 686 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:05,959 Speaker 1: he pulled the pain and through it and he didn't 687 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: really care was going down with him. 688 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 2: I mean, could it? Could that be because he's. 689 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: Throwing the pin and running away, I mean just leaving 690 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: the I mean, is there any merit to that argument? 691 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 4: Uh, this is going to draw some Desanthus fire, but 692 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 4: it's true. So I'm gonna say it anyway. There is 693 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 4: very clearly an expectation that Ron DeSantis obviously is going 694 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 4: to lose this nomination and then basically waddle back to 695 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 4: Florida with his tail between his legs and there's going 696 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 4: to be a new speaker and they they don't want him. 697 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 4: You know, he's not going to get this non adversarial 698 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 4: relationship that he had with the legislature, like he That's 699 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 4: what happens, folks. I mean, you bet your political clout 700 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 4: and you lose, then you you know, there's blood in 701 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,760 Speaker 4: the water and a gates and he's not alone. Others 702 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,479 Speaker 4: have definitely smelled the blood in the water, and it's 703 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 4: he's been an avid supporter of President Trump, so you know, 704 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 4: he's thinking, I can maneuver as the MAGA candidate and 705 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 4: I'm gonna sweep in because Florida's magas can be. So 706 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 4: it's I mean, conn it's smart move, but still I 707 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 4: do think that he's being earnest when he says, you 708 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 4: know that there's nothing. I've been here seven years, and 709 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 4: this is part that he of his argument that does 710 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 4: resonate personally with me, because I'm going to be forty two. 711 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 4: I remember how the budget process worked. I remember when 712 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 4: we were a functioning democracy, or not even I hate 713 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 4: that way. We were a functioning, self governing society, you know, 714 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 4: and we passed appropriation bills, and we had debates over 715 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 4: the budget, and we had hearings and we did not 716 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 4: have these ridiculous omnibus. And I think he's being honest 717 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 4: when he goes to the microphone and sounds frustrated, you know, 718 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 4: like I don't want my name to be attached to 719 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 4: this disaster. And if you are, like, I think I 720 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 4: agree with Gates on this, that this debt bomb is 721 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 4: going to go off, especially with the weakening of the 722 00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 4: petro dollar and the pushing of Russia into China's arms, creating, 723 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 4: you know, what is essentially a balancing coalition that we 724 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 4: have no hope to balance against, so eventually that will come. 725 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 2: Back to bite us. 726 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 4: We're only able to sustain this level of debt because 727 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 4: of those things. When the international system changes, the balance 728 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 4: of power change is shown, we're gonna have to atone 729 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 4: for that debt. And I guarantee all of these people 730 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 4: who are talking trash about Gates right now, we're going 731 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 4: to be attending that they were shoulder to shoulder with 732 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 4: him trying to stop the debt bomb. I guarantee you 733 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 4: chip Roy will make it sound like his amendment that 734 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 4: got defeated would have provided fifty percent worth the cuts 735 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 4: and we would all be safe from the from the 736 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 4: debt crisis, just had they passed chip Roy's amendment. It's 737 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 4: in reality, it's a joke, all right. I mean his 738 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 4: his amendment was a joke. I'm picking on chip Roy. 739 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 4: It's just it is more of the same. So I 740 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 4: think Matt's frustration is real. 741 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 2: I do. 742 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 4: And by the way, I've pulled the first district in Florida. 743 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 4: They want him to do this, man, I'll tell you, 744 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 4: I know it. Voters love him. He wins two thirds 745 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 4: of the vote for a reason. They want him to 746 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 4: do this, Sean, and he's he's got veterans in his 747 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 4: district and they're behind him. So you know, I just again, 748 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 4: I do see both sides of this. I just feel 749 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 4: like that both sides could have given and taken a 750 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 4: little bit more, and that just like you know, don't 751 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 4: take your eye off the ball, and the president would 752 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 4: have come out and saved McCarthy. I think I don't 753 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 4: know this, and I'm just saying, I know he's been 754 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 4: busy today and for those who don't know, he has been. 755 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 4: But gee Shawan, he posts that thing on true Social 756 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 4: and that was those were words of wisdom right there. 757 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 4: Why are you always fighting with each other instead of 758 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 4: dealing with the real enemy. But notice he didn't add 759 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 4: to that save McCarthy, you know, so I feel like 760 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 4: he feels himself that McCarthy didn't do enough to stop 761 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 4: this weaponization against him. And by the way, the one 762 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,320 Speaker 4: I was think of was left out was Biggs. I 763 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 4: don't think I said Biggs. 764 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 2: And he had big yeah. Well and Buck right again, 765 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 2: that's that which. 766 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 4: Was that's that's it, you're right, and that one that's 767 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 4: the last one. And that was stunning to me because 768 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 4: Buck has like lost his mind. 769 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 2: Certainly seems like that. 770 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: I mean every time he's he's out there doing interviews 771 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: on like MSNBC and CNN and talking about there's no 772 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 1: evidence to impeach Biden. 773 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, what world are you living in? 774 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 3: Bro? 775 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 1: What do they have on you that you have to 776 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: say that kind of stuff. It's just crazy to me. 777 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 4: I mean Biden's interview before I thought about do you 778 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 4: remember when uh what's her name hit her bodyguard hit 779 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 4: Nancy or hired meant to break Nancy Carrig's I think 780 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 4: it was like insider edition or somebody viewed him and 781 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 4: there and he was like, well, I'm a you know, 782 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 4: a worldwide terrorism expert. I've been hired. But and the 783 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 4: reporters like, no, you're not, you know, but I am, 784 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 4: But I am. So when you were talking about Democrats, 785 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 4: is refusing to admit there's evidence, you know, it reminds 786 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 4: me of that guy. It's just totally disregarding reality. 787 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,240 Speaker 1: No, but I or remember the guy when we invaded 788 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: a RAQ there Rocky propaganda ministry is. 789 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 2: Like, there's nothing to see here. We are going to 790 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,959 Speaker 2: win this, Yeah, bagdad, Bob. Yeah, it's almost like that. 791 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 2: That's how bad propaganda's gotten in this country. 792 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 4: You know. 793 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 2: It's like crazy. It's like you see some of this 794 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 2: stuff and you're just like seriously. 795 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 1: But honestly, yes, seriously, because that that that partly the 796 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 1: reason why we are where we are today, where we 797 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,760 Speaker 1: have these people on the bench like in this Trump 798 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: trial up in New York City, in the latest breaking 799 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 1: news before we before he jumped into the show today 800 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: and went live, was that this or this judge up 801 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: in New York this and we played a video of him, 802 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: I think yesterday, laughing and jumping in the camera just 803 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: moments before he was about to like ruin somebody's entire 804 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: life and legacy and basically make a unilateral decision to 805 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 1: close his business, like conduct that would make the Pullet 806 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,760 Speaker 1: Bureau in Soviet era Russia. 807 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 2: Russia jealous. I mean, like the idea that. 808 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: A single Democrat judge could unilaterally close someone's business that 809 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: they work their entire life for is just beyond me. 810 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 1: But it's crazy to me that that we are where 811 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: we are, So give me okay. So we talked a 812 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 1: little bit about where did Republicans go from here, and 813 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,280 Speaker 1: it's it's very clear Rich that there's not it doesn't 814 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: look like there's going to be a clear end state 815 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 1: in the House. To me, if it's if I'm a 816 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: better I'll. 817 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 2: Tell you how I think this is going to go. 818 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: It's going to go like it did a year ago, 819 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: when about a year ago when Speaker McCarthy won the 820 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: speakership or was nominated as speaker, it'd be fifteen different votes. 821 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: At some point, McCarthy's going to offer something to someone 822 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 1: that's going to get him across the goal line, and 823 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 1: he's going to end up speaker again. I mean, I 824 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: don't think it's a foregone conclusion. Just because he's ousted now, 825 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean he's going to be ousted in perpetuity. 826 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: Right there's nobody else merge here. 827 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 4: They're in recess, and what they're all doing right now 828 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 4: is exactly that, sending out feelers. Of course, there was 829 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,280 Speaker 4: no doubt going to be a cool down period because 830 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 4: he's going. I mean, allies of Kevin McCarthy wouldn't even 831 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 4: let Matt Gates speak on the Republican side of the 832 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 4: House today. He had to sit on the Democratic side 833 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 4: to speak in the microphone. There's something though, that is concerning. 834 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 4: And if you look at Nancy Mace, not a bomb 835 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 4: thrower by any stretch of the imagination, not you know, 836 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 4: she was on the line with Trump played it very 837 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 4: politically savvy. Survived the primary challenge, albeit pretty close, but 838 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,800 Speaker 4: she survived it, and she. 839 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: McCarthy save her though Rich McCarthy saved her in her 840 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 1: race and a real tight race. This is this is like, 841 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 1: this is what my mentor and friend of mine. Yeah, 842 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 1: like Mike Kelly, who's a congressman here in western Pennsylvania. 843 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 2: I love this guy. I've known him for a year. 844 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 4: Mike Kelly. 845 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 2: He used to say to me all the time. 846 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 1: He's say, yees Sean, you're going to get into politics, 847 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 1: and politicians will always tell you, yeah, I got your back, 848 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 1: I got your back, You got your back, and he's liked, 849 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: you'll know when you feel then this is this kind 850 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: of reminds me of that, Like exactly, Nancy Mace, like, 851 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 1: you know, you raised decent amounts of money, but not 852 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 1: record breaking sums right, And so McCarthy in the Congressional 853 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 1: Leadership Fund, she was happy to spend his money. 854 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 3: I mean. 855 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 2: That kind of stuff bothers me. 856 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 4: You know, I would I would like details, but from 857 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 4: what I understand and gathering what i've what I've heard, 858 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 4: there were a couple of things that McCarthy told her. Listen, 859 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 4: let me get your help on these things, help me 860 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:38,240 Speaker 4: out here, and then when this vote comes up, I'll deliver. 861 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 4: And there were a couple of things that he promised 862 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 4: her and it was like three times Sean where he 863 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 4: just gave her the shaft, no pun intended. Oh my god. 864 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,919 Speaker 4: When well after her comment at the breakfast club, which 865 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 4: I defended by the. 866 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 2: Way, right, yeah, what did she say? She said something about. 867 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,720 Speaker 4: Like her husband, yeah in the morning, or not even husband, 868 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:02,800 Speaker 4: her fiance. 869 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 2: Had a prayer breakfast and a prayer breakfast. 870 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 1: Republicans, why are you gonna why, why are you gonna 871 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 1: be so cringe? 872 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 4: Please? I couldn't believe she said that when she did, 873 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 4: But she was always I thought she would end up 874 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 4: more like a Slotkin kind of figure. I don't know, 875 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 4: maybe I shouldn't compare with the you know, democrat like that, 876 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 4: but I did not think that she would end up 877 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 4: here this quickly. But I mean, I'm telling you she's 878 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 4: not alone. I've been told that McCarthy. There's an issue 879 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 4: of trust. Okay, I guess let me just put it, 880 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 4: you know, without being specific, there's a trust issue. He 881 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 4: lies Sean a lot. And this is something that I 882 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,919 Speaker 4: have heard from a lot of members. He lies and 883 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 4: they just got tired of it, you know. So it's 884 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 4: like hard to blame. You can't blame one person here 885 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,240 Speaker 4: with everything that's going on, you can't. But if that's 886 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 4: the case, the legislation really does rely on a certain 887 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 4: amount of trust. Todd's a WICKI did great search on 888 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 4: this and George Mason University. You know, if you're going 889 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 4: to get legislation effectively passed or an agenda effectively passed, 890 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 4: members of your conference have got to be able to 891 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,359 Speaker 4: trust you that you will respect the status quo. When 892 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 4: I don't mean that in a bad way, I mean, hey, Sean, listen, 893 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 4: I'm going to help you with legislation that you have. 894 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 4: You want to bring back the bacon or something for 895 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,240 Speaker 4: voters out in West Virginia, or you want to do something. 896 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,360 Speaker 4: I'll support your bill on that. If you help me 897 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 4: with my economic development program in eastern North Carolina, can 898 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 4: I get your vote on that? I got your back 899 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 4: with my vote when they start screwing each other over 900 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 4: for lack of a better word, or if you're the 901 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 4: speaker and you say give me your support on this 902 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 4: and I'm going to bring something up that I promised you, 903 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 4: for instance, border control, and then not do it in 904 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 4: the manner or at all, or in the manner I 905 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,760 Speaker 4: told you when we agreed to support this. For that, 906 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 4: that's a problem. The whole thing breaks down, and that 907 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 4: from what I understand, McCarthy has done this over and 908 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 4: over more than just him being out of a breach, 909 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 4: you know, being in breach of their agreement to make 910 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,799 Speaker 4: that made him speaker. This was about individual stuff and 911 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 4: every so you know, when if that's true, then that's 912 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,800 Speaker 4: his widespread. It's apparently more widespread than I even realized 913 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,800 Speaker 4: because I did not count eight votes. Brother, I counted 914 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 4: seven tops so and some voted no, so you know, 915 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 4: it was a little bit surprising. So apparently it was 916 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 4: more than I thought. If that's the case, he's going 917 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 4: to have to give away a lot to be able 918 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 4: to come become speaker again. They're going to need some 919 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,800 Speaker 4: kind of reassurances that he's, you know, willing to respect 920 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 4: the status quo. 921 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 1: Yeah basically, well, okay, so let's shift gears a second, 922 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: and I want to get to the RFK factor. I've 923 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,799 Speaker 1: been telling people for weeks on this show and trying 924 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,719 Speaker 1: to read the tea leaves saying that at the d 925 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 1: n C screws over RFK, which of course they will. 926 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,320 Speaker 1: This is the Democrat Party is a party, and Joe Biden, 927 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 1: it wouldn't even give, even with all the history of 928 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 1: the Kennedy family, even secret service for textion while he's campaigning. 929 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 1: So the Democrat Party when they when they play, they 930 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 1: play for keeps, they play hardball. So it's no surprise. 931 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: It's no surprise to me that they're going to screw 932 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 1: him over. And there's no surprise that they're going to 933 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 1: bring their own primary in favor of Joe Biden. That's 934 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 1: what they've always done. They screwed over Bernie Sanders and 935 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 1: two cycles because they thought that he was going to 936 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 1: have a he was going to ride a wave of 937 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 1: left wing populism to the nomination, and they were afraid 938 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 1: of how we performing a general. 939 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 2: But RFK, what I've been. 940 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 1: Telling people that he's going to likely run as an independent, 941 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 1: and my thought on this rich and you and you 942 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 1: and I have exchanged text messages just for the viewers 943 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 1: and listeners on this topic because when he ran as 944 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 1: an independent, I immediately texted you and our perspectives differed a 945 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 1: little bit and you said you were going to pull 946 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 1: the issue and stuff like that because you're a data guy. 947 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 1: But my sense is is that if you look at 948 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 1: the polling with Robert Kennedy Junior, and he's getting you know, 949 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 1: in a primary against Joe Biden, you know, somewhere between 950 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 1: fifteen and twenty percent of Democrats, how does that not 951 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 1: Democrats or take more from Biden in a general election 952 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: between Trump Biden RFK and you know, give give us 953 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 1: your sense of the RFK factor. 954 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, that that's and and then I mean honestly, that 955 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 4: on the surface is you know, the obvious uh, you know, 956 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 4: or assessment. Of course, if he's pulling away some of 957 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 4: these Democrats that want another choice, then that's gonna hurt 958 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 4: you know, that's gonna hurt Biden disproportionately in the general. 959 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 4: But there are a couple other things to consider. And 960 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,399 Speaker 4: by the way, we're gonna we're gonna pull this really soon. 961 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 4: I'm trying to get the questionnaire done so we can 962 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 4: get this out starting tomorrow and wrap it by Friday 963 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 4: and have some results by Friday. I'm really hoping that's 964 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 4: the case. Uh, There's a few things. One is this 965 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 4: we've been asking people about if your guy is not 966 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,840 Speaker 4: the nominee, who are you gonna vote for? Or what 967 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,840 Speaker 4: would you do? And the choices are, I'd vote for 968 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 4: the inevitable party nominee right, whoever wins the nomination, and 969 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,799 Speaker 4: we did this with Republicans and Democrats. The other choices were, 970 00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 4: I could consider voting for the third party. I would 971 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,759 Speaker 4: vote for the Republican nominee or the Democratic nominee if 972 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 4: it's so and so right, because you got to offer 973 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 4: different choices, I wouldn't vote at all. I'd write their 974 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 4: name on the ballot right. And we've talked about this 975 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,240 Speaker 4: before with the Trump or Bus vote with RFK thirty 976 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 4: percent at least in every single poll we've conducted, so 977 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 4: that if RFK is not the nominee, I'll vote for 978 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,880 Speaker 4: Donald Trump if he is the Republican nominee. You want 979 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 4: that because of whereas support is coming from. If you're Trump, 980 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,839 Speaker 4: you want that. So you basically want RFK to get 981 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 4: screwed and then not run. That's what you want because 982 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 4: those people are going to come to you like Bernie's 983 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 4: people did in sixteen. You're acording soon to be disaffected 984 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 4: voters that are populous like you. And that's ultimately another 985 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,319 Speaker 4: problem for Trump. He's a populist and he's an outsider 986 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 4: supposedly right, so it could take some of that there. 987 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 4: He's not getting support from the Northeast. He's getting it 988 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 4: from the Midwest and the south. That's problem. So I 989 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 4: don't know, it could be that I totally this is 990 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 4: totally wrong, and it does hurt Biden. But in the 991 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,960 Speaker 4: where he was getting thirteen to fifteen percent of the 992 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 4: Democratic nomination vote wasn't from the Democratic stalwarts, the party stalwarts. 993 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 4: It was from independence disaffected moderates who lean to the 994 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,400 Speaker 4: Democratic Party, but they're not really basy, They're not you know, 995 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,560 Speaker 4: solid Democrats. He was having a difficult time breaking in 996 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:30,920 Speaker 4: to traditional Democratic constituencies, non whites, young people, self identified liberals. 997 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 4: So that's part. That's something we got to remember. And 998 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 4: then also there's this the hive mind and viewers of 999 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 4: Inside the Number know this term. We've been using it, 1000 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 4: and I notice others use it too, great because more 1001 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,400 Speaker 4: the merrier Democrats are a hive and I don't mean 1002 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 4: this Democrats. If you're watching, you get insulted tough beings. 1003 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,319 Speaker 4: If you don't like it, you should look in the 1004 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,319 Speaker 4: mirror and reconsider what you are because you all are 1005 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 4: a hive mind. You don't have independent thought. Right. You 1006 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 4: follow the leader, you follow the movements, you circle the wagons. 1007 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 4: And when he starts attacking the DNC, which is the 1008 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 4: game plan, he will become a pariah and Democrats will 1009 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,879 Speaker 4: say this guy is trying to help Trump, and then 1010 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 4: Democrats are going to close ranks. And so there's all 1011 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 4: of that going on. So again I'll try. I always 1012 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,240 Speaker 4: trust the data and we'll see, we'll see what happens. 1013 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,839 Speaker 4: But there is thing, by the way, there are things 1014 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 4: Trump can do to counter this. 1015 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 2: So yeah, that was my next question. 1016 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,880 Speaker 1: I mean, look like, yeah, well RFK is not like 1017 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 1: I like that he is a Democrat that I feel 1018 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,880 Speaker 1: like if I were in an elected official capacity in 1019 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,760 Speaker 1: some way, shape or form, on certain issues, he would 1020 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 1: seem like he's pragmatic. But when you go do deep 1021 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: dives into some of his positions, like his position and 1022 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,400 Speaker 1: stance on I would ban fracking. That is a killer 1023 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,120 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. It's a total, complete deal breaker for me, 1024 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 1: but it's also a deal breaker for a lot of 1025 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 1: real moderate Democrats who are Union Democrats that have been 1026 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,800 Speaker 1: working in and around oil and gas jobs for the 1027 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 1: past twenty years. I mean, there's no way they're gonna 1028 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 1: be voting for somebody that would ban fracking. 1029 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 2: He's also horrible on guns. He's also said some. 1030 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 1: Terrible things about Trump, I mean and right, and so 1031 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:18,799 Speaker 1: what can what can Trump do? 1032 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:19,759 Speaker 4: What? 1033 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,479 Speaker 1: So what can he do to because if we're going 1034 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 1: to say, okay, I'm wrong, he RFK. And by the way, 1035 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 1: my wife Melanie agrees that she thinks this hurts Trump. 1036 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:36,400 Speaker 1: I would say more than it hurts Biden. But and 1037 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 1: she's got real good political instincts on stuff like this. 1038 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,320 Speaker 1: But I just don't know. Because he is so extreme 1039 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 1: on a lot of things, Republicans haven't really attacked him 1040 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 1: at all. But if you if the position is that 1041 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,239 Speaker 1: RFK hurts Trump more than Biden, and Trump has to 1042 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 1: do something because his margin is already going to be 1043 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,719 Speaker 1: razor thin, and RFK in the race could be the 1044 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,760 Speaker 1: nail in the coffin before the race even starts. 1045 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 4: He won Michigan in sixteen because of those disaffected Bernie voters. 1046 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,600 Speaker 4: They were left wing populists. Michelle and Lansing Hills, Michigan. 1047 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,399 Speaker 4: I'll never forget her. She was lifelong Democrat, totally a lib. 1048 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 4: But her husband lost her job, lost his job because 1049 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 4: of trade, which he blamed trade for Back then, Bernie 1050 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 4: was like Trump on trade, right, and then of course 1051 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,759 Speaker 4: on immigration. So she said, I'm voting for Donald Trump 1052 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,879 Speaker 4: because he's not really a Republican anyway. And you know 1053 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 4: that's I'm not voting for this Corporatis woman. I'm not 1054 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 4: doing it. This is the exact kind of Democrat who 1055 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 4: cost my husband his job. I'm not doing it. So 1056 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,440 Speaker 4: people like that, I think RFK can appeal to because 1057 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,319 Speaker 4: on some of those other issues she wouldn't mind, right, 1058 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 4: So what does Trump have to do move to influence 1059 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,080 Speaker 4: the hive mind immediately? And you wouldn't even be lying 1060 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:53,840 Speaker 4: by doing it. I know someone who's a friend of 1061 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,200 Speaker 4: the family. He is pissed because he's a Trump supporter actually, 1062 00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 4: and he think he feels like our K lie to 1063 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,920 Speaker 4: him and he thinks that he either is a plant 1064 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,239 Speaker 4: and he's been duping everyone from the beginning, or he's 1065 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,640 Speaker 4: trying to bully Trump into giving him the VP slot. 1066 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 4: That's what really is happening, That's what this it believed 1067 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 4: me inside. 1068 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 1: Oh, interesting, that's very interesting because there have been that 1069 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,440 Speaker 1: rumors about Will Trump. 1070 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,319 Speaker 4: Publicly, I'm sure. Actually, I think he's going to come 1071 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:28,000 Speaker 4: out soon himself because Sean, he right off the bat 1072 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 4: he said, look me in the eye and tell me 1073 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,400 Speaker 4: this isn't bull, you know, and he didn't like the answer. 1074 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 4: So yeah, he thinks that it's either some kind of 1075 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 4: trick to get Trump to give him the VP nod 1076 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 4: or this has been a grift all along. So what 1077 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,080 Speaker 4: could Trump do? Paint him as that? And you're you're 1078 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,759 Speaker 4: not even lying. I mean, you he whether he is 1079 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 4: acting like it or not, is could you know? It 1080 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,000 Speaker 4: is that spoiler guy. He's trying to be the reverse 1081 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,440 Speaker 4: of Ross Burot. And if Trump does that, then republic 1082 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,400 Speaker 4: you know, he'll have the opposite effect of the hive Democrats. 1083 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:07,000 Speaker 4: They'll start sympathizing that Trump is hitting RFK because some 1084 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 4: I'm talking about not Democrats like you know, you're ancestral 1085 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:15,120 Speaker 4: Democrats in western Virginia or parts of North Carolina that 1086 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 4: have been voting you know, for Trump. I'm talking about 1087 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 4: the southeastern Pennsylvania Democrat. I'm talking about Oakland County, Michigan Democrat, 1088 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,759 Speaker 4: parts of McComb County. Those Democrats you have to get 1089 00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:30,319 Speaker 4: to sympathize with RFK. So they so if Trump is 1090 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 4: hitting him, then they're they're they'll close ranks around him, 1091 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,359 Speaker 4: and Republicans will close ranks around Trump. Also, you named 1092 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,200 Speaker 4: it with some of the positions. This is a guy 1093 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,960 Speaker 4: who said the Parkland families are right, the NRA is 1094 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,640 Speaker 4: a terrorist organization. This is you know, there's a lot 1095 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 4: shown that uh, that he could do. And frankly, I'd 1096 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 4: have been I'd have been firing away already if it 1097 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:53,840 Speaker 4: was made, I would okay. 1098 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:59,400 Speaker 1: So so, how so circling back to using Jen Saki's 1099 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 1: term and serling back to the I think the chaos 1100 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,719 Speaker 1: that's playing out in the House right now, which again. 1101 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 2: I don't really have a problem with it. 1102 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,760 Speaker 1: I think by and large, it's good for the American 1103 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,040 Speaker 1: people to get a sense of have a sense of transparency, 1104 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 1: get a sense of, you know, how certain people vote. 1105 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,880 Speaker 1: I'm not opposed to any of this, but how do 1106 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 1: you think that this plays with the American people. I've 1107 00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:26,719 Speaker 1: seen polls that have chastised Gates by saying that, you know, 1108 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 1: McCarthy buying large is not wholly unpopular with conservatives. In fact, 1109 00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 1: I've seen a couple of Poles saying that, well, he's 1110 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 1: not like pulling off the charts is popular. 1111 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,520 Speaker 2: People are maybe they disbelieve that he would do a 1112 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 2: good job. 1113 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,279 Speaker 1: At first, but maybe he's earned some respect after having 1114 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,440 Speaker 1: served in the role of speaker for some time now. 1115 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,480 Speaker 1: So how do the people if you're reading the tea 1116 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,400 Speaker 1: leaves on this now? I mean, I'll tell you how 1117 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,359 Speaker 1: you know how this makes me feel as a both 1118 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 1: a voter and somebody who's run for office a couple 1119 00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,799 Speaker 1: of times. It just pisses me off. It's like, look, 1120 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 1: I just think, like, well, damn, the Republicans just can't 1121 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,680 Speaker 1: get it together. Even with everything that's on the line, 1122 00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 1: Republicans just can't get it together. And it frustrates me. 1123 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,600 Speaker 1: But how do you think, how do you think the 1124 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,160 Speaker 1: American people see all of this. 1125 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,040 Speaker 4: With when you're thinking about the Republicans in general, that's 1126 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 4: probably gonna give them a little bit of a renewed faith. 1127 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,640 Speaker 4: There'll be some that are pissed Sean, you know, they'll 1128 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 4: be the Mark Levins and others. You can see them, 1129 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 4: you know, wildly swing, but there is They're never really 1130 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 4: the problem. They're going to vote Republican anyway. The problem 1131 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,080 Speaker 4: are those voters who feel like Republicans just repeatedly lie 1132 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 4: to them and betray them. This may actually help with them, 1133 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 4: but I'll tell you in the short term, it's probably 1134 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,920 Speaker 4: gonna hurt overall with the American people. It's they just 1135 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,959 Speaker 4: don't especially independents, they don't like disorder. I called them 1136 00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 4: I wish Trump would have listened in twenty twenty. I 1137 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,480 Speaker 4: called them the seasick voter. It's not that they disliked 1138 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 4: how Trump was handling the presidency. They didn't like the 1139 00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 4: state of the nation. Constantly, you know, one crisis to 1140 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,360 Speaker 4: an other, one hoax to another one. And it wasn't 1141 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,240 Speaker 4: even his fault. I'm not saying it was, but he 1142 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,680 Speaker 4: isn't the kind of guy to coddle you and say 1143 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 4: rut was a hoax, Get over it. The economy's roaring, 1144 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 4: that's him, you know, when in fact, though, there are 1145 00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,560 Speaker 4: some Independents who really needed somebody more of a consoler 1146 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,840 Speaker 4: in chief. You know, we called him the see sick 1147 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 4: voters because it was simple. The boat was just constantly 1148 00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,560 Speaker 4: rocking and they were getting nauseous. They were getting sick, 1149 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 4: and instead of I mean, if you're seasick, hanging your 1150 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,240 Speaker 4: head off the end of the boat rolling up into 1151 00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 4: the ocean. Do you want someone saying, knock it off, weenie, 1152 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,560 Speaker 4: you know the economy's ripping. Or do you want someone 1153 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:36,880 Speaker 4: to hold the back of your head and tell you 1154 00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,479 Speaker 4: don't worry. The storm is gonna calm and it's gonna 1155 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,360 Speaker 4: be okay. So we're going to get through this together. 1156 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 4: Trump should have did that in twenty twenty, and he 1157 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,640 Speaker 4: would not have lost some of the people that he 1158 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 4: did lose because he did. It's not the baby with 1159 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:48,760 Speaker 4: the bathwater. 1160 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,040 Speaker 1: That's such a great point. That's such a great point. 1161 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 1: And I'll just tell you this. You know, having run 1162 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 1: for Congress in that cycle we did. We were pulling 1163 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,440 Speaker 1: all throughout the race and one of the very steep 1164 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:03,040 Speaker 1: drop off and this is significant I think in Pennsylvania, 1165 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 1: but especially in western Pennsylvania, but with seniors. Trump was 1166 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,960 Speaker 1: cruising to re election and I mean cruising to re 1167 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,360 Speaker 1: election prior to COVID. But when COVID happened that it 1168 00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 1: was the tumultuous nature of the actual pandemic and the 1169 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:21,080 Speaker 1: lockdowns and the nursing homes and the death tickers on 1170 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,240 Speaker 1: CNN every day, which by the way, disappeared at the 1171 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 1: moment Biden walked into the White House. But like, but 1172 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 1: his support with with seniors, just because of like the 1173 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,520 Speaker 1: up and down seasick type, the vote was making him sick, 1174 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,959 Speaker 1: so to speak. Just his support fell off a cliff. 1175 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,480 Speaker 1: So I'm saying, we saw that. We saw that reflected 1176 00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:42,640 Speaker 1: in the polls as well. 1177 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,920 Speaker 4: There were some people who said, look and again, I know, 1178 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,480 Speaker 4: we got more votes. I know he's definitely I don't 1179 00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,240 Speaker 4: care what even some of the polls suggests. He's obviously 1180 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,600 Speaker 4: the most popular of the life to Republican president ever, 1181 00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,800 Speaker 4: probably in our lifetime. Look, because you just don't get 1182 00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,840 Speaker 4: that many votes. If you're not popular, doesn't happen votes. 1183 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:06,400 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. So he we're talking about a small group though, 1184 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 4: that he needed, especially considering what Democrats threw with him. 1185 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 4: And he did slip, even from Pennsylvania to Florida to Michigan. 1186 01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,480 Speaker 4: He slipped with an older demographic that really is just 1187 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:21,160 Speaker 4: not used to the country being like that. You know, again, 1188 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:25,520 Speaker 4: the boat constantly rocking, and especially if they're independent, not 1189 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 4: so much if they're you know, self identified Republicans, but 1190 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:32,200 Speaker 4: older independents they didn't like the boat rocking. Constantly. It 1191 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,760 Speaker 4: didn't matter. It was the media's fault. Everyone even kind 1192 01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 4: of knew it was. But that wasn't the point. It 1193 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,640 Speaker 4: was how Trump reacted to it. Sometimes that bothered them. 1194 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 4: And when COVID came, you know, it gave them the 1195 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 4: perfect storyline to tell those voters like, you're at risk. 1196 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,960 Speaker 4: Look at how many of you actually died already. And 1197 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:53,959 Speaker 4: by the way, Trump did a lot of votes sean 1198 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 4: by them dying from COVID. That happened, you know, without 1199 01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,560 Speaker 4: a doubt, that targeted groups that were more Trump voters. 1200 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,160 Speaker 4: It's just almost like and you know, now I'm not 1201 01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,440 Speaker 4: going down that rabbit pole, but I'm just saying the 1202 01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,880 Speaker 4: Chinese just so happened to unleash you virus on the 1203 01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:14,520 Speaker 4: world that you know, didn't target younger liberals. It targeted 1204 01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,160 Speaker 4: older people and they were afraid, you know, for a 1205 01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 4: while there, they were afraid and they needed more reassurance. 1206 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,280 Speaker 4: And not all of them, but a lot of them. 1207 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,080 Speaker 4: And elections are one of the margins. So you slip 1208 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:30,600 Speaker 4: in Pennsylvania fifty eight, you know, forty with seniors, if 1209 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,840 Speaker 4: you slipped to fifty four forty six, you're gonna lose 1210 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:35,120 Speaker 4: and that's what happened. 1211 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,560 Speaker 2: Well, so look at six o'clock. 1212 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,600 Speaker 1: You've been with us for the for almost a full hour, folks, 1213 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,960 Speaker 1: if you've made it, we're still over one thousand strong 1214 01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,200 Speaker 1: the whole hour. If you're new to the program, subscribe 1215 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:48,080 Speaker 1: to Battleground Live. 1216 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:49,000 Speaker 2: We'd love to have you. 1217 01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 1: If you're in the trenches with Battleground Live and have 1218 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,440 Speaker 1: been from the beginning, make sure you subscribe to People's 1219 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:59,280 Speaker 1: Pundit on Rumble and do whatever you can to support Rich. 1220 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,080 Speaker 1: I think he's one of the posters in the business. 1221 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,120 Speaker 1: I want to give it thanks and a shout out 1222 01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,760 Speaker 1: to Pops. He gave five bucks in the super Chats, 1223 01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:08,360 Speaker 1: so thank you. One hundred percent of what we get 1224 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,440 Speaker 1: in the Superchats goes to building a new studio so 1225 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:11,960 Speaker 1: that I don't have to do my show next to 1226 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,160 Speaker 1: the cat litterbox, which is kind of a running joke 1227 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:15,040 Speaker 1: on the show. 1228 01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,960 Speaker 2: But again, it can get pretty chaotic around here. 1229 01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:22,360 Speaker 1: So you've got five kids and her cats and so 1230 01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:23,400 Speaker 1: so thank you, Pops. 1231 01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:24,160 Speaker 2: Appreciate that. 1232 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:25,120 Speaker 4: Rich. 1233 01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,680 Speaker 1: Where can people find you and how can people support you? 1234 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,120 Speaker 1: Because we have a very very active audience, and just 1235 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:32,720 Speaker 1: tell them, tell them what they can do. 1236 01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:36,880 Speaker 4: Central hub is Locals People's Pundit dot locals dot com. 1237 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,400 Speaker 4: And like I was talking about the polling, that's all 1238 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 4: through the Public Polling Project, which we crowdfund, So if 1239 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,720 Speaker 4: you can contribute, that would be great, and we you know, 1240 01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,040 Speaker 4: if it doesn't make the target, then we just fill that, 1241 01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:49,880 Speaker 4: you know the rest of that. So we're obviously trying 1242 01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:51,760 Speaker 4: to build that contributor base up as much, but if 1243 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,040 Speaker 4: you go to locals you'll see it right there anyway, 1244 01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,680 Speaker 4: So the best place to just go is locals People's 1245 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,720 Speaker 4: Pundit dot locals dot com. And Sean, let me just say, 1246 01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,840 Speaker 4: we're also re adding the social bias indicators because they 1247 01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,560 Speaker 4: talked about the shy Trump vote in sixteen and twenty. 1248 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,720 Speaker 4: That was when the media ridiculed you. 1249 01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:09,480 Speaker 2: You know, that's it. 1250 01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:13,920 Speaker 4: Right now we have law enforcement persecuting you. So I 1251 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,320 Speaker 4: can't help but to wonder whether or not, even though 1252 01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,480 Speaker 4: Trump is doing so much better than he always did 1253 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,960 Speaker 4: in the polling, is it possible he's actually doing even better? 1254 01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,360 Speaker 1: And people, okay, before you go, tell us, tell us 1255 01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,440 Speaker 1: about this. This is a great point. The shy Trump voter, 1256 01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,200 Speaker 1: the idea that it was very hard to capture back 1257 01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,320 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty and twenty twenty two before I let 1258 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 1: you go, just to give people a sense of what 1259 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:35,880 Speaker 1: you mean, people were just first of all, they didn't 1260 01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:39,000 Speaker 1: trust polsters. They didn't conservatives especially didn't want people calling 1261 01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,920 Speaker 1: him asking them probing political questions about who they believed in, 1262 01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,880 Speaker 1: because they were afraid of just being ridiculed socially. Now, 1263 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,080 Speaker 1: you're right, that's a great point. Then you have actual 1264 01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:52,680 Speaker 1: institutions of our government going after these people. And so yeah, 1265 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,440 Speaker 1: if you thought that they didn't talk back in twenty twenty, 1266 01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:55,960 Speaker 1: you could. 1267 01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,600 Speaker 2: They're definitely not talking now. So how are you measuring that? 1268 01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,880 Speaker 4: So we we had what we called the social Bias Indicators, 1269 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,400 Speaker 4: and we asked a series of questions that basically were 1270 01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:10,160 Speaker 4: designed to measure someone's comfort level during the interview, giving 1271 01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,840 Speaker 4: certain responses such as your political beliefs, how you you know, 1272 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,120 Speaker 4: such as how you intend to vote, you know, And 1273 01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,280 Speaker 4: we asked series you know, how about when you're talking 1274 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:24,040 Speaker 4: to your neighbors, coworkers, your friends, your families, strangers and 1275 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,840 Speaker 4: pollsters of course, and we would measure whether they were, 1276 01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:31,000 Speaker 4: you know, between this very much like a favorability scale, 1277 01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:35,360 Speaker 4: but between being very uncomfortable with a particular question to 1278 01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:40,440 Speaker 4: being you know, somewhat uncomfortable or somewhat comfortable, very comfortable. 1279 01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:45,240 Speaker 4: And what we could see these groups routinely, you know, 1280 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:49,000 Speaker 4: presenting during these indicators. We called them throwing signals. You know, 1281 01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:53,760 Speaker 4: just like a adverse effect is measured when you're testing, uh, 1282 01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,320 Speaker 4: you know, vaccines or something. And they would throw these 1283 01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,400 Speaker 4: signals into their system. That's what they call them, throwing signals. 1284 01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,040 Speaker 4: That's how we kind of modeled it. And we would 1285 01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,760 Speaker 4: see these same groups Sean over and over again throw 1286 01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:08,720 Speaker 4: these signals, one of them white suburban women, and he 1287 01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,320 Speaker 4: always maybe he would lose them, but he never did 1288 01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,680 Speaker 4: as bad as the poles always suggested. And that's because 1289 01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:16,480 Speaker 4: they don't want to go to the top away party 1290 01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,440 Speaker 4: and have their friends find out that they voted for 1291 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:23,040 Speaker 4: Donald Trump, right. And another one young black men. They 1292 01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,880 Speaker 4: were constantly throwing these signals. Well what about Now, that's 1293 01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,000 Speaker 4: when you could just be made fun of or your 1294 01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,960 Speaker 4: aunt would yell at you. Now you could get fifteen years, 1295 01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:35,040 Speaker 4: you know. So I can't help but to say to myself, 1296 01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,240 Speaker 4: now it's time to put them back and see because 1297 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,480 Speaker 4: I think we're you know, we're in a wholly different period. Now, 1298 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:43,760 Speaker 4: I bet you it's there. We're gonna find out what 1299 01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:44,360 Speaker 4: it's a. 1300 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:46,880 Speaker 2: It's genius. This is why we love you, Savage. 1301 01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:50,640 Speaker 1: Rich Savage Rich Bearess aka also the People's pundit for 1302 01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:52,600 Speaker 1: those of y'all are who are who are watching? 1303 01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:54,360 Speaker 2: But Rich, thanks for your time, man. 1304 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,880 Speaker 1: We always love having you, and you made it this far. 1305 01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:01,360 Speaker 1: Everybody seriously like this video. Rumble notices that stuff, like 1306 01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,080 Speaker 1: and subscribe to Battleground Live or my Rumble channel, like 1307 01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,600 Speaker 1: and subscribe to richest channel like Rich. 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