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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm Norah Jones, and today I'm playing along with

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Speaker 1: Ifa O'Donovan.

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Speaker 2: I'm just playing.

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Speaker 3: Weey, I'm just playing a lone way.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: I'm Norah Jones, and with me as always is Sarah Oda. Hello.

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Speaker 4: I love how you always point to me when you

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Speaker 4: say that nobody can see you.

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Speaker 2: I know what I can there.

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Speaker 4: You are our guest today is the wonderful, poignant storyteller, singer,

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Speaker 4: songwriter and guitar player Ifa O'Donovan. She's had a solo

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Speaker 4: career for quite some time, but you may know her

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Speaker 4: from her band's Crooked Still Sometimes Why and I'm with her.

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Speaker 4: She's collaborated with several artists including Ola Bell, Chris Theely

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Speaker 4: and the Punch Brothers, The Milk Carton Kids, Yoyom, Jerry Douglas,

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Speaker 4: several orchestras, and she's joined Garrison Keeler on his Prairie

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Speaker 4: Home Companion tours. And she is I.

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Speaker 2: Don't really know how to say it.

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Speaker 1: You want to say bad a to the s asterisk,

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Speaker 1: don't you?

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Speaker 4: But I'm not going to say it because we are

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Speaker 4: not explicit.

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Speaker 1: We don't want to get explicit today.

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Speaker 2: But I want to get explicited.

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Speaker 1: She is really cool. She's a bad Mamma jamma.

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Speaker 2: She'sama there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she is very cool, but that doesn't sound cool.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, she's a bad bama jama. She's cooler than us.

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Speaker 1: Basically, she's an amazing musician and I had so much fun

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Speaker 1: getting it. Her music is hard af no, but her

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Speaker 1: her music was definitely hard, and so it was really

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Speaker 1: fun to get inside of it and challenging and just

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Speaker 1: so fun to play with her. I was I was

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Speaker 1: nervous because the music was a little bit more on

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Speaker 1: just the chemistry happens and then it always comes together.

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Speaker 1: And she's just so great and I'm glad she's now

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Speaker 1: our friend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 4: Her solo album All My Friends came out in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty four. You'll hear some songs from that in the episode,

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Speaker 4: and her latest album with I'm with Her, titled Wild

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Speaker 4: and Clear and Blue, came out in May of twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty five. In this episode, you're also going to hear

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Speaker 4: a new take on a familiar song, so stay tuned

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Speaker 4: for that.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we bust out of cover. Hope you have

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Speaker 1: fun with us. Please enjoy ifa O'Donovan. Where did you

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Speaker 1: grow up?

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Speaker 2: I grew up in Newton, Massachusetts. Oh I heard of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to date a guy from air air

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Speaker 2: Newton is right just outside of Boston.

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Speaker 5: Like on the tee, you don't have a Mass accent.

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Speaker 5: I don't because my dad was from Ireland.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, how Irish are you?

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Speaker 5: Well, actually only fifty percent Irish, but.

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Speaker 2: My dad was from Ireland.

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Speaker 5: My mom is from Boston and has a really thick

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Speaker 5: Boston accent. But I kind of have the in between,

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Speaker 5: like not Boston. My mom is this, my dad was this.

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Speaker 5: And the kids are all kind of neutral.

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Speaker 2: How many kids? Four kids? Okay, yeah, oldest of four. Oh,

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Speaker 2: you're the oldest.

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Speaker 5: And my sister is the youngest, and two brothers in between.

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Speaker 5: The boy Sandwich it is and there's a big gap.

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Speaker 5: My three of us are kind of all born almost

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Speaker 5: at once. My brother Kiiran is like twenty months younger

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Speaker 5: a half. Wow, so she's like your little baby she was.

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Speaker 5: But we're and it's really funny because now we're we're

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Speaker 5: and we're just like it's great, Like we have such

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Speaker 1: And I always tell people like, I mean, people always

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Speaker 2: They're gonna figure it out.

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Speaker 5: Or they're not why they're not exactly And you can't

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Speaker 2: But I'm really close with all of my siblings.

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Speaker 5: Great, and it's I mean, it's like a loud, crazy,

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Speaker 1: Of oh okay, it's like that kind of vibe, that

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Speaker 1: kind of vibe like a movie should be made.

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Speaker 5: Yes, like not as crazy as the bear scene like

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Speaker 2: Like it's like a more tempered, like positive version of that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's cool. You want to play guitar?

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Speaker 2: I didn't know if I get out, what do you

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Speaker 2: want to play first? Galahad. I really haven't played this

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Speaker 1: Good because I've never played it right, Okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: The piano part on this, like I'm playing piano on

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Speaker 5: the records, so funny. I was really trying to like

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Speaker 5: play sound like Bruce Hornsby.

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Speaker 7: Oh that's so funny.

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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, kind of I'm like trying to channel.

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Speaker 5: Like my one of my goals in life is to

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Speaker 5: try to be more like Bruce Hornsby. He's awesome in general,

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Speaker 5: and Bruce Hornsby live is like the most risk taking guy.

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Speaker 5: Like I feel like his musicality is so off the cuff,

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Speaker 2: On from it.

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Speaker 5: It's just I just love saying that. Shows like that

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I don't know taking some risks. Well, it's alive.

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Speaker 2: It's exactly. It's a live it's a live.

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Speaker 1: Music that is not alive is not interesting to me.

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Speaker 5: Same same and it's like, yeah, I want to get

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Speaker 2: People will be like, what does that mean? What does

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Speaker 1: With Bruce WARN's thanks for explaining that you're getting one.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to get one here today. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: Noted, somebody's going to send you one after this.

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Speaker 7: You weren't that. I'm a dark cosh.

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Speaker 8: I want to be.

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Speaker 7: How did you we be?

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Speaker 9: Anyocks and shade, said Boone, mauning through my head. Somebody

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Speaker 9: that saw me a pure bud in oxygen. You can laugh,

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Speaker 9: can cut through benything. But I'm alive, alive, I'm alive.

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Speaker 7: I'm alive.

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Speaker 10: I'm alive.

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Speaker 7: I'm alive.

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Speaker 11: I'm alive and love, love love.

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Speaker 12: You got a gold hat. I got a black one, baby.

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Speaker 12: I sting like a scorpier. So she I saw in

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Speaker 12: the old uc trees. An ancient voice him homing.

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Speaker 7: It's me Boomer has a stronger than a hundred men.

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Speaker 7: But it's my word. I can say the sentence.

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Speaker 11: I'm alive, I'm alive. I'm a love love love. I'm

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Speaker 9: You muse on joy basis, use spaces.

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Speaker 11: Gold, living dreams.

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Speaker 7: And lii flease.

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Speaker 9: I'll good it when good morning it comes, botting yelly,

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Speaker 7: The press name, it's singing bad. Be hold your singing

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Speaker 11: Here still got out into si.

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Speaker 7: See we're upple, bowl of girls like grails with feet.

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Speaker 11: I'm alive, loud, I'm alive, I'm alive love, I'm alive

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Speaker 7: I'm alive love love.

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Speaker 11: I'm alive love, I'm alive, I'm alive, alive.

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Speaker 7: Alone you what, I'm a dark coursh oh dad, I

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Speaker 2: Be yay, I'm alive. That's right, that's rad. We're alive,

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Speaker 2: so fun, We're so alive. We're right here. I love

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Speaker 2: with you. You put that on the album from twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty two, Agibapathy, Yeah Okay was it an old song

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Speaker 1: But does it even matter?

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Speaker 2: It doesn't even matter, like what am I going to? Like?

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Speaker 5: I just finished up two years touring with I'm with her,

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Speaker 2: Coming the best.

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Speaker 2: It was a real just like positive moment in my life.

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Speaker 5: Also, as I feel in many ways like that's actually

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Speaker 5: like I really started to I just started to feel like, okay,

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Speaker 5: I can I like doing this and I.

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Speaker 1: Want to do this, and I have you felt like

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Speaker 1: you have something to say.

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Speaker 5: Like that's to say I felt very authentic. Where in

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Speaker 5: the past, like I don't know, it always felt it

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Speaker 2: And well I can relate to that.

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Speaker 1: Actually, I think I think for me, like in the beginning,

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Speaker 5: like we're just like practically dead and the kids are

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Speaker 5: in their little clip on high chairs you know, goo

444
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 5: goo gaga, Yeah, eating oatmeal from the microwave, like you know,

445
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 5: it's so sweet.

446
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 2: It was really sweet. And then other Sarah gets up

447
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 2: rolls out about it to in.

448
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 7: The morning and.

449
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 5: She got married this past year. I like, yeah, you know,

450
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 5: she's she's behind us for sure, but it was. I mean,

451
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 5: now though, with my daughter, who's in first grade, she

452
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,679
Speaker 5: has too much stuff going on already, like in her

453
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 5: own life, and she does like to come and she

454
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 5: came with us last weekend to my last show, which

455
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 5: was in Virginia with my husband's orchestra, and it was

456
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 5: a really fun show.

457
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 2: My daughter came. She was at the show.

458
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 5: She didn't want to watch because she was like I've

459
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 5: already seen the show so many times. So she stayed

460
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 5: backstage with her friend, stayed up till eleven, passed out

461
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 5: on the couch like the guy at the venue gave

462
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 5: her an entire being size her. She's bar at like

463
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 5: ten fifty, passed out, get up at six in the morning,

464
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 5: fly home.

465
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Speaker 2: She's been. She was a wreck for like a week

466
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 2: after that. Yeah, it's it's interesting.

467
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Speaker 1: I feel like now my favorite thing to do is

468
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Speaker 1: to take because my kids are eight intents, so they're

469
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Speaker 1: a little bit older, so they're a little bit more

470
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Speaker 1: self sufficient.

471
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, way they don't need a full time nanny in

472
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Speaker 2: the road.

473
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Speaker 1: No, And I've taken I've taken them individually on like

474
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Speaker 1: little one on one trips and left the other with

475
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Speaker 1: my husband. And those have been for me the most

476
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Speaker 1: special because also I don't get a lot of one

477
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 1: on one time with them. It's nice, but yeah, the

478
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: person left behind is always pretty bummed.

479
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 2: Do they like the bus to your kids?

480
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 1: Like the twenties love the bus? I mean the bunk

481
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 1: beds are just like the best.

482
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the best.

483
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 1: But I take them for a little bit in the

484
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: summers now, but not the whole time. And it's easier

485
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: to split it up and have some time where it's

486
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 1: just me doing it and then sometime where they're there

487
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 1: but not all right, because.

488
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 2: That's too much.

489
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 5: One of the nice things I think about, and people

490
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 5: always like love to talk about juggling, like being a

491
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 5: mom on the road, and it was like, which to me,

492
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 5: like is not. I don't know if that's not something

493
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 5: I really talk about that much because me neither that

494
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 5: interesting to me. But I feel when I'm on tour,

495
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 5: like I love in general. I love hanging out like

496
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 5: I love that. That's that's one of the reasons that

497
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 5: it's so funny.

498
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 2: It's like a little like it's like a working vacation exactly.

499
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 2: It's like you want to stay up late.

500
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 5: And late and have a drink with your friends, like

501
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 5: and just hang with the band and and everybody's in

502
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 5: their pajamas and you like have a beer and some

503
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 5: smart food from the vending machine.

504
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 2: Like that's those are the most fun parts of tour

505
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 2: for me. Sometimes me too.

506
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 5: And if I don't have that, like I wouldn't want

507
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 5: to have my family out with me all the time,

508
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,959
Speaker 5: because then it can tells me that autonomy of like totally,

509
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, if it's just going back

510
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 5: to my youth or something. But I still I still

511
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 5: love that aspect of the road.

512
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's half of being there of course. Yeah,

513
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,239
Speaker 2: and it's all the fun half, right, it's like all

514
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 2: the connect.

515
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: You can do it without overdoing it. It's the best, exactly.

516
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: It's definitely part of the appeal.

517
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 2: For sure, and for going on the road and for

518
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 2: being a way. You have to have that all that

519
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 2: fun stuff to.

520
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 5: Make it worth Otherwise it's too sad, right because you're

521
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 5: missing other stuff. Yeah, agreed, And I've heard that it's

522
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 5: harder as your kids get older to leave because you're

523
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 5: missing more stuff.

524
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: But I think it's mostly harder because they tell you

525
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: they're mad instead of just not really understanding what's happening.

526
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 15: We go by.

527
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, and it's probably the same for you.

528
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 5: But when it's been constant, like I feel like for

529
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 5: my child, it's her whole life is this, So it's

530
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 5: not like weird to her necessarily that we're gone, or

531
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 5: that my husband's gone, or that we're going to switch off.

532
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 2: No, it's great and everybody gets their time.

533
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and we do end up getting a lot

534
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 5: of that sort of special like mom daughter time or dad.

535
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: That's nice, it's good.

536
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: The thing that was fun this last summer for the

537
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: first time, they wanted to watch the show. Like actually,

538
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 1: I mean, growing up, they've always come to sound check

539
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: and they.

540
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 2: Kind of know some song they play.

541
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 1: They play, but you know, ish they're taking piano. They

542
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 1: hate it, they complain, but then they love it, right,

543
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: you know, they complain about everything and then they love it.

544
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you have no idea what you are

545
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: to have any opportunities, right, you know? But yeah, they

546
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: started watching the shows and they stayed and watched like

547
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 1: a good string of maybe a week and a half of.

548
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 2: Shows every night, every night. That's so sweet. I was like,

549
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 2: you guys are so sweet.

550
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: You don't have to be like no, I want to.

551
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: And then at one point my son said, yeah, I'm

552
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: not going to watch the night I've already seen it.

553
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: You're like now, but it was nice. That was really fun.

554
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 2: That's so sweet, feeling like they really got it. Do

555
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 2: they ever want to be on stage with you? Like,

556
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 2: is that a thing that they want to do?

557
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 16: Not?

558
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 2: Really?

559
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: I think when they were little we used to have

560
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: them come up for soundcheck and like try to and

561
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: then we realized that was breeding obnoxiousness.

562
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 2: Yes completely, so we stop that.

563
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 9: Ye.

564
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: Like, you don't get to think that you could come

565
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: on stage and play without practice.

566
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 2: So that's over. I'm in that exact song right now.

567
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, off the stage.

568
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 5: It's cute when they were one and once they're like

569
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 5: they're they're like doing their sassy thing.

570
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 2: You're like, no, no, no more from okay, go practice right, yeah,

571
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 2: get good. Do you want to do another song? Let's

572
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 2: see it. I was wondering if you wanted to do

573
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 2: Crisis next. Let's do it.

574
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, is like this from your new album?

575
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 2: From my new album All My Friends, where's my pick?

576
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 2: Let's try the song and then I want you to

577
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 2: tell me about it. I might eat a couple of

578
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: runs on this one.

579
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, gethers.

580
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 6: Let me tell you about the Christmas that is here.

581
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 7: At the end of see.

582
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 6: I final victory.

583
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 7: I know the weeds don't I'll believe.

584
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 6: But it'll be good.

585
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 7: It'll be but a christis tears.

586
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 17: Indeed, like boulder given speed, you've failed to act upon it.

587
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 6: I mean the chance has been lost and we will

588
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 6: have to be too.

589
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 18: Bill it's nineteen sixty were talking warm battle Christ.

590
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 7: All the man travels. You gotta rise up your flight.

591
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 17: You may be troubled and bewildered and stricken with grief,

592
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 17: but you can solve it.

593
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 7: Fix these lot of problems where you try to breathe.

594
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 17: You've failed to act upon it. I mean, the chance

595
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 17: has been lost and we will have to wait to

596
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 17: be over America look up, but that north start we

597
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 17: did come down.

598
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 7: The child has gone to shout.

599
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 11: Loud, and every city in belge in town.

600
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 8: The woman's eyes struck, the woman's alvest.

601
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 6: If we fail to act upon it, let me the

602
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:35,719
Speaker 6: chance has been lost.

603
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 7: Who was a man in mess Virginia? And someone asks

604
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 7: thembody thought.

605
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 17: He say, we have been keeping women down so long

606
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 17: they would feel so quet to not.

607
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 14: If someone has his wife the same question, here's what

608
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 14: she says. We've been down so long.

609
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 16: We've gotta stay this way. There letters the movement of

610
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 16: those saying America starts getting me.

611
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 7: It's time to shine. Let to and everybody looking hear us.

612
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 11: Woman's arm shot, woman's ears Now the woman's ear.

613
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 16: Is he.

614
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 10: It's he?

615
00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 6: That was cool?

616
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was great, that's cool.

617
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: This sign is great. It's so intense, it's it's your

618
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: whole whole album is sort of inspired by the suffrage movement.

619
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 5: Yes, it's it's my concept album that I never thought

620
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 5: I would ever do something like this, but I did

621
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 5: toward it for a year, which was obviously a kind

622
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 5: of crazy time to be doing an album about suffrage.

623
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: And but is the time the reason that you thought

624
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: of it?

625
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 7: Like? Not spirally?

626
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 2: So it's this.

627
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 5: It kind of goes back to what we were talking

628
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 5: about a minute ago. When I moved to Orlando in

629
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 5: twenty twenty, my husband's orchestra had commissioned me to write

630
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 5: a twenty minute piece for orchestra and meet me an

631
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 5: orchestra inspired by the Nineteenth Amendment.

632
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: A lot of orchestras were doing that. Oh, they had

633
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: already asked you to do this, you alread asked me.

634
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 5: So it was going to be in the twenty twenty

635
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 5: twenty one season in Orlando, and you were opening their

636
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 5: new hall and it was going to be this big

637
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 5: thing before COVID. They asked me to do it, and

638
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 5: I was like, great, I'll do It's a twenty minute,

639
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 5: you know, between twenty and thirty minute piece of music.

640
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 2: And it seemed like a heavy lift, but I.

641
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 5: Was excited to have the challenge and to write some

642
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,959
Speaker 5: sort of conceptual piece. It had no parameter other than

643
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 5: it had to be inspired by suffrage. Anyway, fast forward,

644
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 5: COVID happened. Told my husband I was like, there's no

645
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 5: way I'm going to do this, Like I don't have time,

646
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 5: I don't.

647
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: Even seems like a huge undertaking.

648
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: It was a huge undertaking.

649
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 5: But I somehow, like again, got to Orlando, got inspired,

650
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 5: had all the space, and was like, fine, I can

651
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 5: I can do this.

652
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: Also, my husband was like, you said you were doing it,

653
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: You're jump back up. You can't back up.

654
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,479
Speaker 5: And I'd gotten this book called The Woman's Hour by

655
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 5: this writer named Blaine Weiss, and I'm really not a

656
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 5: big nonfiction person, but this book is really sort of

657
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 5: reads like a novel cool and kind of latched on

658
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 5: to this one character, in particular, Carry Chapman Kat and

659
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,719
Speaker 5: a lot of these pieces are kind of inspired by

660
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 5: some speeches and letters that she gave and it's I've

661
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 5: been very careful to say like this is not a

662
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 5: historical album. I mean, this is not like I'm not

663
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 5: presenting this as like a thesis academic. It's like a

664
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 5: focusing version of you know, this moment in history. And

665
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 5: it's a mild because some people have been like, well,

666
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 5: why did you choose her.

667
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 6: And not this and not this?

668
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 5: Okay, back off, Like this is just my take on

669
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 5: this one thing, and it's also my own experience as

670
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 5: a woman and mother and voter, and you know, it's

671
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 5: like a pretty loose concept. But this song Crisis that

672
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 5: we just played was taken from a speech that she

673
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 5: gave in nineteen sixteen where she's talking about the crisis,

674
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 5: like the crisis of women not having the right to

675
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 5: vote and the movement of people who were against it.

676
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 5: And I just found so much of what she said,

677
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 5: and of course I obviously changed it and made it

678
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 5: into this kind of ballad, folks singing type of thing

679
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 5: where I kind of imagined her gathering the suffragists around

680
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 5: the fireplace with the guitar and saying, like, you know,

681
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 5: let's get to the bottom of this. But when she

682
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 5: the end of the song, she's talking about interviewing a

683
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 5: man in West Virginia and saying, you know, what do

684
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 5: you think about suffrage and women?

685
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 2: Should women be enfranchised and given the right to vote?

686
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 5: And he says, well, no, we've been keeping women down

687
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 5: so long, like we're not gonna it would just be

688
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 5: weird if.

689
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: We stop that, and what a weird take on it, right,

690
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,479
Speaker 2: And then his wife is asked.

691
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 5: She's standing right next to him, and she basically says,

692
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 5: we've been down so long, we got to stay this way.

693
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 5: And it's and that really crazy hit me just as

694
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 5: a person living in the modern age, And funnily enough,

695
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 5: writing this in twenty twenty one, it's like it's almost

696
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 5: gotten worse, and the three years that have passed since

697
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 5: then that there are still so many women who do feel.

698
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: Like, Okay, we've been down, we have to stay down.

699
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 5: And I think that that's been you know, it was

700
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 5: wild doing the song night after night, and there was

701
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 5: a shift over the summer when the you know, the

702
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 5: candidates changed and we all of a sudden had a

703
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 5: woman to you know on what Kamala Harris to vote

704
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 5: for and to be excited about. And when I got

705
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 5: to the end of that song over the summer, right

706
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 5: after she announced for candidacy, and.

707
00:34:58,680 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 2: It was like the woman's hours jo.

708
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 5: Yeah.

709
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really felt like it gave it, gave it

710
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 2: new life. Yeah, it was really exciting.

711
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: I like that about songs as Yeah, they sort of

712
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: cycle in and out of new life because of the circumstance.

713
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 2: They do, and they really have.

714
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 5: We've done it twice since the election, and that that

715
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 5: also was I was really nervous about that.

716
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: It was about doing it after the election at.

717
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 5: All, just just to do a piece like this, which

718
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 5: is very Yeah, I mean it is obviously like it's nonpartisan.

719
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 5: The piece itself and the concept of suffrage is not

720
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 5: affiliated necessarily with the political party. But it almost felt

721
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 5: more important to sing it after after the fact.

722
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 2: But when you get to that part, even now, it's

723
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 2: probably still it still feels important exactly. Yeah, Like those

724
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: words still mean a lot, They have a lot of weight.

725
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not ever gone.

726
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: They're not going to go away, exactly exactly.

727
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Yeah, I love this one.

728
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 2: Thanks.

729
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: So when you did the piece for the orchestra that

730
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: started all this was it? Which song was it?

731
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 5: It was the five songs from the record, So the

732
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 5: first one all my Friends, Crisis Daughters, and then war

733
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 5: Measure and America.

734
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: Come Okay, and then you filled it out with and

735
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: I found it out with a bunch more songs. Okay,

736
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: so you did a lot of it for that? Is

737
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: that why there's so many orchestrations on the right exactly?

738
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 5: So is that the orchestra the Knights played my husband's orchestra,

739
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 5: a New York chamber group called the Knights, okay on

740
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 5: the record, and then an amazing brass quartet called the Westerlies.

741
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 5: So I don't know if you know those guys, but

742
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 5: you should use they're incredible. They're New York based. They

743
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 5: rewrote the brass parts for themselves, and then some woodwind

744
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 5: players down in Orlando, and I worked with an orchestrator,

745
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 5: a young woman named Tanner Porter, and it was a

746
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 5: really cool process to create these songs. And I would

747
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 5: make demos of them with like piano and guitars and

748
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 5: electric guitars, and then she would take those like melody

749
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 5: lines and she orchestrated it beautifully and really it's really playable.

750
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 5: The charts are great. We've done it with tons of

751
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 5: orchestras now and I feel so cool. Yeah, she's incredible

752
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 5: and I'm so glad that I got to work with

753
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 5: her on this.

754
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: What's it like to play with an orchestra? It's is

755
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: this something you've done a lot now.

756
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 2: I've done it a lot now, and every experience is different.

757
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it often like playing with people in general, everyone's different, that's.

758
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 5: True, but it's we've done it in a variety of

759
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 5: different contexts like big orchestra, small orchestra, lots of rehearsal,

760
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 5: no rehearsal. We were at the Kennedy Center a couple

761
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 5: of weeks ago. It was doing a double bill with

762
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 5: Bonny Light Horsemen, and it my rehearsal. The show was

763
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 5: at eight, and my rehearsal it was I have a

764
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 5: fifty minute set and I had a sixty minute rehearsal

765
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 5: at five o'clock.

766
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: I wish I was at eight, So she was like

767
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: five to six. Oh my gosh, show at eight, like

768
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 2: it was.

769
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 5: It's crazy, Like you just you basically just run through

770
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 5: everything and hope that you can hear and hope that well.

771
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: It's funny because I'm so used to being like, well

772
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: they'll just follow me if I but with an orchestra,

773
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: is that able.

774
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 5: I think it's been really crucial to for me to

775
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 5: be super confident on the parts and I know that

776
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 5: I can lead it. And but see this is also

777
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 5: a funny dynamic between my husband and me because of

778
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 5: course he's a conductor and the whole and so we

779
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 5: both think we're the leader of the group. And when

780
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 5: we've we've done it together three times, this piece four times,

781
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 5: I think, and there's there's like a funny you know.

782
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 2: He's like, I have to lead, and I'm like, no,

783
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: I have to leave.

784
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 1: How I want to. I want to go to dinner

785
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: with you guys so bad.

786
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 14: Now.

787
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 2: It's that's that's kind of like our relationship in a nutshell.

788
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 2: That's great, that's the best. That's fine.

789
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 6: It is what it is.

790
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, but it's really fun.

791
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 5: And actually he, my husband, Derek, was a huge part

792
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 5: of the making of the record and helped him produce

793
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 5: it and I definitely could not have done any of

794
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 5: it without him. So yeah, it's a nice collaboration, you know,

795
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 5: and we don't work together that often, so okay, so

796
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:54,959
Speaker 5: it's nice.

797
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really nice and and nice, No, mostly

798
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: almost it was. It really was mostly awesome.

799
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 5: I love doing this piece with him because he knows

800
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 5: it really well as a conductor, which is always it's hard.

801
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I was trying to learn a few of

802
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: the songs and I was like, this is not easy

803
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: music to learn. I want to try Daughters, but I

804
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: have to warn you I'm the least confident on it.

805
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: We can try it and then learn. We could try

806
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: and try Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I learned it.

807
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: I just I don't even know what some of the

808
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: chords are. But I also don't really know what any

809
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: of the chords are.

810
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. Song it's kind of abstract, which is also why

811
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: it might be totally fine.

812
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 5: The only parts of this that I feel like is

813
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 5: weird is that the first time into the chorus it's seven,

814
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 5: the second time it's six.

815
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 2: I'm just going to follow you saw me. It's pretty

816
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 2: I'm not going to count. You don't count.

817
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: But I asked Brian Blade, my drummer, who's one of

818
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 1: the best drummers do you know? Yeah, he's amazing.

819
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 5: I've only played with him once actually an orchestral Yeah,

820
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 5: and at the Kennedy Center.

821
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: It's awesome. But he's like, I mean, he's god.

822
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: He's like the best in the world to me and

823
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: to many. And I asked him one I was like,

824
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: what are you counting this? As He's like, oh, I

825
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: don't count.

826
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 7: I was like, Okay, cool. I'm good. Yeah, we'll find it.

827
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 5: I also don't do it in this one, because if

828
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 5: I tried, if I try to count, it stops to

829
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 5: make sense to me.

830
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 2: I don't even know what cord this says. I really

831
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: don't even know what that me neither.

832
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna play the one note. I don't.

833
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 8: He and the dog.

834
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 9: Everything once becomes a tiny spoke looking back from the

835
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 9: next century.

836
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 19: What do they see? The names, the girls away, the stones,

837
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 19: names love for God, if a schiggl and the tongs.

838
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 8: But Da was dragging, indestructible.

839
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 6: The arts are food.

840
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 8: Now, the unifice events Libty.

841
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 9: It is almost complete, protective answering the rich manstone, a

842
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 9: hole in.

843
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 7: A little and Skille growing boarder.

844
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 6: In the treachery.

845
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 7: Selpi free, the Asmali fire.

846
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 9: The sister's crossed the land to declare them click to

847
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 9: bry seeing, don't trust.

848
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 13: To make the privilege, don't even traver be ready for

849
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 13: the victory?

850
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 7: What the country as bees?

851
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 11: The endmies.

852
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 17: Overcause chastupus. But before the food is warm, can't be

853
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 17: the fat to the.

854
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 7: Dorties of the dots.

855
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 17: So we'll go into the frame shot his back, fear,

856
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 17: the fires, little bear.

857
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 20: Women in schools of counting house, as the shops and

858
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 20: all the farms are all around us. They are babies

859
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 20: created the best.

860
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 7: Son six in the west. The veins of these women,

861
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 7: I'm not fell of the milk and water.

862
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 18: These are mothers bore American daughters, but they are.

863
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 7: Not faith They any wait.

864
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 18: Listing for the bill of the constend them is so

865
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 18: fres the oddes.

866
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 7: Of the cold strass.

867
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 6: But before the food is warm, gat the sight to.

868
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 11: The dot of the dots.

869
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 17: So going to the free shoulders back, take the punches

870
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 17: to our feet, says.

871
00:43:52,719 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 7: Fast and the Bones to the movie The Red Fuck

872
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 7: Victory Victor.

873
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: I had some really dope magical ethereal it's weird.

874
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I don't know if I can

875
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: do this with And that was like the most fun.

876
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 2: That was so cool. I was so free. Yeah, it

877
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: was really like that was his zone. I loved it.

878
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 2: I love doing that. God, you're so such a great

879
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:55,959
Speaker 2: panel player.

880
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 7: You are.

881
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 2: I love jamming.

882
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: This is I mean, I have no Bruce Hornsby, but

883
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,919
Speaker 1: w w nje if.

884
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 2: I was producing, no, no, this is this is more

885
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: fun to do it with you.

886
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 6: Thank you.

887
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 2: That was fun. It was so fun and also just

888
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 2: like the whole.

889
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 5: This whole approach to like doing a podcast and making music,

890
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 5: like is it's my dream?

891
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: Like you're I love this.

892
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 16: I'm not.

893
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: I really I'm not a big podcast person. Oh yeah, totally.

894
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 5: And the podcasts that I like are like music podcasts

895
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 5: that are weird and cool and interesting and.

896
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 2: You're ten out of ten.

897
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 21: Thank you.

898
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 2: Well.

899
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: I think that it's interesting because I found that it's

900
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: a little bit hard to get people to agree to

901
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: do this because not everybody is comfortable doing it like this.

902
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: But those who are, and I'm talking to you, are

903
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: down for it, you know, like Chris Theely this is

904
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 1: his bread and butter, of course, but like like certain

905
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: people are just so into doing it this way and

906
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: not precious about things, and that's when like the really

907
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: magic stuff of course.

908
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 5: I mean, yes, this is like I I'm also I

909
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 5: feel like in another life I should have been in

910
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 5: a jam band to yeah just say have like I

911
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 5: love live recordings, like I'm happy to have every night

912
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 5: we recorded and put out because.

913
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: It's like it's just a moment. Yeah, it's got It's

914
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: just a moment.

915
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 5: It's like everything is just an experience of what's happening

916
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 5: in the room with people, and whether it's just you

917
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 5: and somebody else or an audience or like, I don't know,

918
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 5: I just feel like there's there's.

919
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 2: Something so cool about that.

920
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 5: And I love the studio and I love making records,

921
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 5: but I'm definitely much more of a live like I much,

922
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 5: I don't know, I'm more into the live experience.

923
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 15: Yea.

924
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 2: The studio can be tricky.

925
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I feel like you then can get so

926
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 5: like this is not in tune, or this has to

927
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 5: be perfect, or I want.

928
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 2: To do this again.

929
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: We're trying to get the ultimate version of this, right.

930
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: That's what's kind of fun about this podcast is that

931
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: we're You've already got your ultimate versions, right, multiple versions

932
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: of whatever.

933
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 2: So we're just doing like a.

934
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 5: Whole sad thing exactly and it can exist in this

935
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 5: cool little yeahphere.

936
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 2: How did you get the idea to do this podcast?

937
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: And then this is use supposed to be interviewing me?

938
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, go ahead, I'm dead for it. I feel

939
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: like it was before it was only before the pandemic started.

940
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: And I think me and Sarah Oda have my my

941
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: butt in there, my butt in there, my buddy in there,

942
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: and I feel like we were talking about it. She

943
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: might have a totally different story. It might be completely

944
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: her idea. I can't remember. I thought it was an idea.

945
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 1: I had to sit with people and do it because

946
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: for a while I was doing.

947
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 2: Songs with people.

948
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 1: I'm releasing singles instead of doing albums, and like I

949
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: did a session with Jeff Tweety for a few days

950
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: and we did like three or four songs, and I

951
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: did some stuff with Tanking the Banga Tank from.

952
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: Tanking the Bengas. She was on Life from Here once

953
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 2: when I was, yeah.

954
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 5: She's amazing, she's so Carryana And actually it had heard

955
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 5: a thing that you did with her from Thomas Thomas's

956
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 5: studio that's like mutual Army and mutual.

957
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that's right.

958
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: And I did something with Thomas and I was like

959
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: releasing these and it was really fun. But then I thought, well,

960
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: what if I did it something like this. I was

961
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: also of a way, of course, with small kids too.

962
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: That's kind of why I started releasing singles, so I

963
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: could have a like I could still tour a little bit,

964
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: but not to these big album cycle tours and still

965
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: have like some new material to play. Yeah, So that's

966
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: what the sort of thinking was. And then this is

967
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: just another way to meet people and collaborate and be

968
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 1: at home.

969
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, be home, and then you still get to make

970
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 5: music and be in a community, and yeah, people can

971
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 5: come to you.

972
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 2: It's great.

973
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: It's pretty great because I've connected with a lot of

974
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: people who I already knew but have made deeper connections

975
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: with or met people that I've never played with.

976
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so fun it's awesome.

977
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're all just one big, happy family.

978
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 2: So there's many little connections. It's very cool. Yeah, but

979
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 2: it's funny.

980
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: There's certain people that I'm like, oh, I would love

981
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: to do this with them, but some people just don't

982
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: get it.

983
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 2: They're like, well, we can do it remotely. I was like, no,

984
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 2: that's not going to be possible. How would you do

985
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: this remotely?

986
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 8: You can't.

987
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: That's why I was like, you don't get it, or

988
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: you're not down for it.

989
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 2: That's fine. It's a jam. It's just just a jam. Yeah,

990
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: playing a lot wrap theme song.

991
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: Ever, I also wanted to try Phoenix.

992
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 2: Let's try I feel like it. I would love to

993
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 2: this one. I will do this all fast, we can

994
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 2: do a little slower.

995
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't slow down

996
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: for me.

997
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 2: Did you ever watch A New Girl? Yeah? I love it.

998
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 5: I also love it, and it's one of my husband

999
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 5: Eric's favorite shows. He's watched the entire that's adorable. He's

1000
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,959
Speaker 5: watched the entire series three times.

1001
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 1: I mean Winston.

1002
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 2: I would watch it all for Winston.

1003
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 5: He would watch it all for Schmidt because there's this

1004
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 5: there's this thing that one one episode where Schmid does

1005
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 5: this thing is like this whole thing, and like.

1006
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: Eric, we just say that all the time. That's great.

1007
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: I love New Girl. That's good.

1008
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: No, I can't watch that with the kids.

1009
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 2: I watched way too much inappropriate stuff with my kids.

1010
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 5: But I just I was just telling we just watched

1011
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 5: them Herald in the Purple Crayon with and Zoe the movie. Yeah, yeah,

1012
00:49:58,320 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 5: And I was telling Ivy Joe. I was like, she's

1013
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 5: an show that daddy likes. And I was like, maybe

1014
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 5: when you're thirteen.

1015
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 1: They talk about sex a lot a New Girl. I've

1016
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: watched a couple episodes of Friends with the kids, and

1017
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: even that is like, all right, we're still on like Bluey.

1018
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, I feel like we watched like Rabbits. We

1019
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: watched abbot elementary. That's a good middle ground.

1020
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 7: Times not the villain coming up behind it.

1021
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:44,439
Speaker 18: It's American, son of if you will come in on time,

1022
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 18: I smell fid it's.

1023
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 10: Coming from the flames and dancing all my wings on

1024
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 10: the booth.

1025
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 7: Don't know why, Kim tuck, you just have a shaken

1026
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 7: right sings up like a road to me, let me flee.

1027
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 8: He's got the queer collect sending j AsSalt.

1028
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 10: Four o'clock is my brow. I saw like a phoenix

1029
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 10: from the ashes, go to brit and pack it down.

1030
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 7: I'm running out.

1031
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 17: And looking for a forgiveness, looking on every covering, every room.

1032
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 8: I bearing witness to the person time.

1033
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 7: On the clocks again like an no man singing at

1034
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 7: the top of this long and the line its flicker in.

1035
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 7: We're running out, We're running out feet. Ha's gotta shaken.

1036
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 7: It rises up like a road to me, let me flee.

1037
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 8: It's got a queer collect sinning dressed it.

1038
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 7: Good across my brow. I saw lak.

1039
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 8: Fiend expunged the ashes, put a bit of licking down.

1040
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 7: I'm ready Now.

1041
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 8: Everybody's looking for somebody to blame. The stages of Satis

1042
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:40,959
Speaker 8: a many again.

1043
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,720
Speaker 7: You need stopped at anger. I never felt the same.

1044
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 10: They see the feed my scars, not tears of dry

1045
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 10: of lions in size.

1046
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 7: Again and now I don't wonder to where you are.

1047
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 7: Where you are, where Lena's gotta shake it ras is

1048
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 7: black road to me. They see it's gotta be quick

1049
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 7: and let sandres salt blood gloves to my brown.

1050
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 10: I saw black phoenix from the ashes, but a reading

1051
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 10: back it down.

1052
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 7: I'm ready.

1053
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: Now wait back to Irish for one second. Yes, did

1054
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: you play Irish music?

1055
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 2: Not so much?

1056
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 5: I mean, like my dad, I grew up around a

1057
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 5: lot of Irish folk music and I like sing, you know,

1058
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 5: a bunch of Irish folks songs, but I never like

1059
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 5: played like real track music.

1060
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 14: But I do.

1061
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 5: I like I'm from that world. From that for a

1062
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 5: lot of bluegrass. Like my first band was a like

1063
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 5: old timey and bluegrass band. It still did a ton

1064
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 5: of traditional music in that world and some old Irish songs,

1065
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 5: but not in the like real it didn't.

1066
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 2: I don't like play trad guitar any Okay, But you

1067
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 2: went to fiddle camp. I taught at fiddle camp. Okay, wait, wait,

1068
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 2: hold the fun I didn't.

1069
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 5: Like to go to fiddle camp as a as a youth,

1070
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 5: I know, like singing and for a second, is like

1071
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 5: a whole it's a thing.

1072
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 2: It's a whole world. Is it like a ren Fair world?

1073
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:41,760
Speaker 2: Except it's different.

1074
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 5: It's more like a lot of people eating tempe and

1075
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 5: like playing fiddle tunes like old time fiddle. It's not

1076
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 5: really ren Fairy. It's it's hard to explain exactly. There

1077
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 5: are many different types of fiddle camp also, but in

1078
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 5: like the folk world, there's always like then a singing

1079
00:54:58,520 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 5: feature done.

1080
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 2: A bunch of faces, just fiddle players.

1081
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: No, okay, that's so fun, singing and guitar and all that.

1082
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 2: It's really fun. It's really fun for kids. I want

1083
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 2: to go to fiddle camp. You should go to fiddle camp.

1084
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: What if I just went with all the kids? I'm

1085
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: not I'm not afraid.

1086
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 2: I mean you should. You should do that. Very Do

1087
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 2: you have a fiddle?

1088
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 15: Do you like?

1089
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 2: I don't like tempe? I do I do, just not tempe,

1090
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 2: But I have a fiddle do it?

1091
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 6: Do you come in?

1092
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 2: Do you play anything?

1093
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: I tried when I was pregnant. The first time I

1094
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: took up the fiddle. Somebody gave me this violin and

1095
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: I wanted to play it. I took from Charlie Burnham

1096
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 1: for a minute. He's a fiddle player in New York.

1097
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: In New York, I mean he plays violin. He's in

1098
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 1: the sort of jazz scene.

1099
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 2: Okay, but where where do we meet? Eleventh Street?

1100
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 5: It was like at a thing like the Sam was there, Tom,

1101
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 5: I like Sam and Madan like that, like that adjacent world.

1102
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 2: Okay.

1103
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 10: It was like.

1104
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 2: Somebody's It was like a fiddle birthday.

1105
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 5: It was like a Sunday night at eleven Street and

1106
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 5: you were there, Okay, Kessy Jenkins was there.

1107
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 2: It was a jam though, like I think it was

1108
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 2: like the Irish Jam, the Irish I remember that. That

1109
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 2: was a long time ago, long.

1110
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 5: Long, long, long time ago, likely many many years ago,

1111
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 5: at least fifteen.

1112
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, like before anybody had kids. And it was like

1113
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 2: probably two in the morning or something. Maybe three.

1114
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe later that bar Kenny, yeah, yes exactly. I

1115
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 5: love k that's the bartender, right.

1116
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,399
Speaker 2: Maybe he has like a sister named Epha or something.

1117
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 2: Oh there's a bartunder that would make sense. Okay, Yeah,

1118
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 2: it's an Irish bar. It's an Irish bar, yes, exactly.

1119
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 2: I love that place. I love it too. I wish,

1120
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 2: see this is what i've that's what I really missed.

1121
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 5: When I think about like what I miss about New York,

1122
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 5: it's not just it's also the fact that I'm not

1123
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 5: like twenty two anymore. So I associate all of the things,

1124
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 5: like even if I still lived here, I would not

1125
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 5: be doing the things that I miss.

1126
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 1: Can I attest to that, Yes, I will be here

1127
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:48,720
Speaker 1: living testimony to being uh, you know, in your forties

1128
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 1: with two kids, you do not do all those.

1129
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 2: Things that you do even if you're right in the city.

1130
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 5: Right, Yes, okay, so fair enough. I should just be

1131
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 5: happy that I don't have to have a tempt me.

1132
00:56:58,960 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting.

1133
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: Every once in a while you'll get out and do

1134
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: something you maybe wouldn't have done, but usually it's something

1135
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: you would have come to town to do.

1136
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 2: Right, and you would have done it right exactly.

1137
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, like I'm going to do next year. Yeah,

1138
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 5: see Miranda July do a speaking engagement again.

1139
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: Well, if you if you go see Miranda July, text thing,

1140
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: I will come with you. I'll even fly.

1141
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 2: And then we'll have a date that will make direct anyway,

1142
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 2: even if she's in Arkansas.

1143
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 7: That's right.

1144
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 2: You can fly directly anywhere, so it's just a date.

1145
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 2: It's a date no matter where. This was so fun,

1146
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 2: this is the best. You're thank you, thank you so much.

1147
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 2: Do you want to try that last tune or sure?

1148
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 2: It's up to you and we're kind of good either way,

1149
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 2: but why not, let's do it? I love it?

1150
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 7: Did I send you?

1151
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: The recording is in dear Eat, I can't remember it's indeed,

1152
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 2: please don't do it and Eat, I won't know. He

1153
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 2: is so high? Oh I know, but I love this song.

1154
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 6: Do you do you like?

1155
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: I love this song. I've always loved this song. This

1156
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: is but I don't know if I can do the Shubert.

1157
00:57:58,960 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: Let's let's forget about this.

1158
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 2: So who did you do this with? This is the

1159
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 2: Bob Dylan song Not Dark Yet?

1160
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 5: I recorded this so during COVID, my husband and brother

1161
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 5: in law, who were cello and violin, we just made

1162
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:14,959
Speaker 5: a ton of music together in our house.

1163
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: That's amazing.

1164
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 5: And we got this mobile recording rig from our friend

1165
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 5: Jody elf up in New Palts. We drove up to

1166
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 5: his house in April of twenty twenty. He gave us

1167
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 5: all these mics, We set up this rig and then

1168
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 5: he had it like wired where he could live mix

1169
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 5: us from his place in New Paltz, and that's so great.

1170
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 5: We did live streams with like live audio from his

1171
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 5: It was very weird. But this recording is from our

1172
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 5: living room.

1173
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 2: I love it.

1174
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful recording. And you throw in Schubert in the.

1175
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 5: Yes, and it was Eric said, you got to do

1176
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 5: a little Schubert one music and yes, very very classical

1177
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 5: of him.

1178
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 2: But we'll just do a normal Bob Dylan, so you

1179
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 2: tuned down. What kind of guitar do you have for

1180
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 2: the nerds out there? I have This is a Callings,

1181
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 2: a single Callings that I got in twenty fifteen.

1182
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 5: I borrowed it from Callings. Actually I was doing a

1183
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 5: tour with Glen Hansard and they mailed it to me

1184
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 5: to borrow it.

1185
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 2: And then I bought it. It's beautiful. It's small. It's

1186
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 2: a small body guitar. I really, I'm so used to

1187
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 2: like it's a little buddy bar.

1188
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, play the guitars. And I have a Martin also

1189
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 5: that's the same size, but I don't travel with that

1190
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 5: as much.

1191
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 7: Nice I might let me.

1192
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 2: Can I grab a lyric sheep for this one? Just

1193
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 2: in case, just enough on the floor.

1194
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: I know it, but there's I might just your vision

1195
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: is it's pretty small.

1196
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 2: I think that's my because I pretty much know it.

1197
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: I might just need like a okay, thanks for the

1198
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: first line kind of thing?

1199
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 2: Do you want to sing a verse?

1200
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 7: Sure?

1201
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 2: Which one? I'll do the second one? That sounds great.

1202
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 7: Shadows are fun.

1203
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 15: And I've been here all day. It's too hard to sleep.

1204
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 15: Time and slipping away.

1205
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 21: I feel like what's some worse turned to steal. I

1206
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 21: still got the scars.

1207
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 7: That the sun didn't heal.

1208
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 8: There's not even a room enough to be anywhere.

1209
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 7: Mm hmmm.

1210
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 8: It's not dark yet, but it's getting there.

1211
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 11: M m hmmmmmm.

1212
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: Where my sense of humanity it's gone down.

1213
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 6: The drain.

1214
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 7: Hind every beautiful thing.

1215
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 8: There's some kind of pain.

1216
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 3: She wrote me a letter, and she wrote it so kind.

1217
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 3: She put down and writing.

1218
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 7: What was on now? Mindy, I just don't see why

1219
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 7: I should he even care.

1220
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 2: It's not dark yet, but it's getting there.

1221
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 8: Love built lounder and I bound.

1222
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 7: To gay Berry. I followed the reboot until I got

1223
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 7: to the sea. I've been down on the battle word

1224
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 7: for the last him, looking for nothing.

1225
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 9: Anyone's else, but sometimes my budins, But then I can't.

1226
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 7: Snapped acket. Let's kissing there.

1227
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 6: I was born here, and I'll die here.

1228
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 7: Against smile.

1229
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 8: I don't know what looks like I move him, but

1230
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 8: I'll standing still.

1231
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 7: Ever live in my body so soul.

1232
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 8: I can't even remember what it was. I can't to

1233
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 8: get away from.

1234
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 22: I don't even around a prayer. It's not dark again,

1235
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 22: but what he's getting there? It's not dat, but let's

1236
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 22: get in there. It's not dark get.

1237
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 7: Let's get there.

1238
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 5: We did it, We did it, always worth doing a

1239
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 5: little Bob Dylan at the end, It's like, why not,

1240
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 5: There's there's no reason not to.

1241
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 7: I love it.

1242
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 2: That was so fun, so fun.

1243
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 1: I forgot how much I love this song and how

1244
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: much I love how he says, well.

1245
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 2: It's getting there. It's not docky, but it's getting there.

1246
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 5: Mind is so good, just such a good record it is.

1247
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 5: And this song is like it fucking kills me. The

1248
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 5: lyrics of this song. It's a deep song, like I

1249
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 5: can't even remember what it was I came here to

1250
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 5: get away from Like that line, I'm just like god.

1251
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: I know it's so like extension.

1252
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 5: It really is like I was wondering and I'll die

1253
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 5: here against the whole thing is just like, yeah, god tears.

1254
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so good.

1255
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 7: Good call.

1256
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 5: Thanks Forest, so fun, so fun to play with you.

1257
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Thank you for having me. Yay friends forever.

1258
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: Oh that was great.

1259
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 2: Great.

1260
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 4: So the takeaways are what would Bruce hornsby do huh?

1261
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 4: And read All four Us by Miranda July.

1262
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've already like told all my friends to

1263
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: read it. It's so popular that there's a backlash, which

1264
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 1: is stupid.

1265
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 2: I think she really sold me on Orlando.

1266
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:09,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, and fiddle Camp.

1267
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 1: Fiddle Camp, Yes, definitely fiddle Camp.

1268
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 2: She's cool.

1269
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: Let's hang out with her again? Yes, tonight?

1270
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 2: Should we call her?

1271
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1272
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, but do the credits first. Oh okay.

1273
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 1: The songs we played in this episode where Galahad from

1274
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 1: her album Age of Apathy, which came out in twenty

1275
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 1: twenty two. The second song was Crisis from All My Friends,

1276
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: which came out in twenty twenty four. The third song

1277
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 1: was Daughters, also from All My Friends. The fourth song

1278
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 1: we played was Phoenix from Age of Apathy twenty twenty two,

1279
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: and the last song we played was the classic Bob

1280
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 1: Dylan song from Time out of Mind, which came out

1281
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety seven, called Not Dark Yet Special. Thanks

1282
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 1: to Ifa O'Donovan for joining us today. We'll be back

1283
01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 1: next week with Nathaniel Rails. Norga Jones is Playing Along.

1284
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 1: Is a production of iHeart Podcasts. I'm Your Host Nora Jones.

1285
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 1: Today's show was recorded by Matt Marinelli, mixed by Jamie Landry,

1286
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: edited by Sarah Oda, Audio post production and mastering by

1287
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 1: Greg Tobler. Additional recording by Jamie Landry, artwork by Eliza Frye,

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01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 1: photography by Shervin Linez, and produced by Norah Jones and

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01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 1: Sarah Oda. Executive producers Aaron wan Kaufman and Jordan Runtogg.

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01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 2: Marketing Lead, Queen and Akey. Thanks for listening.