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Speaker 1: But Almost Famous podcast, we're like your own personal fantasy

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Speaker 1: Do I really have to get wet? But I don't

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00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 1: know if I want to do this. What do you

425
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,719
Speaker 1: remember about Lee Norris? I just remember he was so sweet,

426
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: so smart and just could you know, just got everything immediately. Yeah,

427
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: you know you kind of you know, he was there

428
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: from the table read just ready had this character. He

429
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: was really funny. He was funny. He's a pro, and

430
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: I guess he had a lot of experience, more of

431
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 1: the experience than any of us on sitcom at that point,

432
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: because he had already done Almost Home and wasn't even

433
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: I think Michael, I think, Okay, So Michael Jacobs basically

434
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: created the role of Minkus for him because he was

435
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 1: so good, such a pro, and you know it's so

436
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: funny because yeah, like I just remember him and his

437
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: mom when where were they? They had a slight accent.

438
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: You could hear his accent in there. Oh, he's just

439
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 1: such a cute kid. Michael would do that. Though Michael

440
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 1: would if he liked an actor would create it. I

441
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: mean Jason Marsden. The Jason Marsden character was created for

442
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 1: Jason Marsden because I mean it was that's just Michael.

443
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: So Corey realized he gets soaked with the water gun,

444
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: and then he realizes he's the only person in the

445
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 1: school who doesn't have a water gun. I have one question.

446
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: Can we go back to the cold open a little bit?

447
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: I have one question. Okay, good, we're still here. So,

448
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: if memory serves, we were not allowed to say things

449
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 1: like oh my god. So he stops himself. You hear

450
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: he says. And I even wrote that because you you know,

451
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: halfway through he was like, oh wait, we're not allowed

452
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 1: to say. And so you set you that that thing

453
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: shuts down in your brain. It's like swearing on TV.

454
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: So it was him going, if you watch again, he was,

455
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: oh my god, and he stops himself from saying it

456
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: TV with a chiron and with like with subtitles and

457
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 1: and it says, oh my god. That probably wasn't scripted.

458
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 1: That was probably just be and knowing that he couldn't,

459
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: he stopped himself halfway through. You could see him and

460
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,959
Speaker 1: he saw the mind going wait, I can't say, Oh

461
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: my god, I wonder how my only takes we did

462
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: I don't remember, because I mean something like that you

463
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: have to change. Yeah, well was the shot from his

464
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: from behind his back though, because maybe they could have

465
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 1: just taken it out on his face and he has

466
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: a kind of over his He has a single of

467
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: him and then and then um Bill comes in and

468
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: joins his shot their exchange. This also started the pants pole.

469
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: I don't know about these are things before I came

470
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 1: on the show, So tell me what is the patented

471
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: ben pants poll. You will notice Corey always will walk

472
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 1: into a scene and for some reason, and it's usually

473
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: just his right hand, it's not both. He will reach

474
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: down and he like goes to pull up his pants

475
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: And did you know this at the time. I remember

476
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: this at the time to the point where when I

477
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: saw it the first time I was rewatching this, I

478
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I'm gonna keep a running tally of

479
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: how how many time said he does this? We were

480
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: at ten by the end of the episode. By the way,

481
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: check me if I'm wrong, Um, but you do you

482
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: see him just it was a kind of thing he

483
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: did where he would always go for his pants. What

484
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: were your ticks? Do you have you remember? Oh, I'm

485
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: sure I had. I mean, my my first tick was

486
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: just it was it's just bad acting. It was one

487
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: of my first time. I feel like you went through

488
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: a pointing stage. I pointed that. I also did a

489
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: lot like a facial thing like like where you and

490
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: Michael like pulled me aside one time and told me

491
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: to do this where like you would say a line

492
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,479
Speaker 1: like actors when you're trying to get a laugh when

493
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: there isn't one and you don't really know how to

494
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 1: find the laugh yet you would make a face after

495
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: the line, like you can't believe even you said that line.

496
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: So it was like, whatever you mean, Corey, Like I

497
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: can't said that's well, but it is. I can't believe

498
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: I got away with that exactly. So it was I

499
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 1: remember Michael like during a note session, I think it

500
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: was our six of a note session was like, oh,

501
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: and will don't make faces like okay, thanks? Um. So yeah,

502
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: we always got into that stuff. But I'm the only

503
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: person who was bumped even with water guns. Just hearing

504
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: the word gun and seas in a schools were talking

505
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: not it did not occur to me. But I'm watching

506
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: it with Indie, and I think he was having so

507
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: much fun with the idea of square guns that I

508
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: just saw them as square guns. But yes, now that

509
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,239
Speaker 1: you guys men, but it is incredibly disturbing. But let

510
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: me point out something also about your son. What did

511
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: he say? He said, you call nine one one in

512
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: their heads. It's even your son's young head shooting the

513
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: neighbor wasn't At that time, it wasn't interesting. It's a

514
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: pre Columbine nobody was thinking anything like that. But you

515
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: know what's interesting, Writer, is that I'm surprised it didn't

516
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: occur to you because I got something from you. I've

517
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: gotten many things from you, parenting wise, which is funny

518
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: because we've only our kids have not even well, your

519
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: son came to my son's birthday party, but whatever. I've

520
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: taken so many things parenting wise from Writer, but one

521
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: of them was that you said, very early on, Uh,

522
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: there's no you cannot avoid it. Whether you shield or

523
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: protect your kid from any any vision of guns in

524
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: your house, they will still somehow gravitate towards finger guns.

525
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: Finger guns exactly. And you said blasters, We call them blasters,

526
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: and so we Jensen and I have taken in our home,

527
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: we don't say the word gun at all. Everything is

528
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: a blaster. Oh look at that water blaster? Is that?

529
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: Oh that's a laser. Everything's a blaster or a laser.

530
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: Um And so I think even just hearing kids talking

531
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: talking about it wasn't just that one of the lines.

532
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: He one of the lines that I might have been

533
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: due on a kid. It might have been Lee. He says,

534
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: it's so powerful, this thing will blow your head off.

535
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: And it was like, wow, I mean, it's just the

536
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: times are different. Times different. It's just something didn't bump

537
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: any of us back then. And and you know, it

538
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: was very very strange. Yeah, to hear it was, it was, Yeah,

539
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: it was. It was interesting, all right. So we leave

540
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: the cafeteria, Corey goes home and he comes downstairs. He

541
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: starts complimenting her, Wow, you sure do look nice today,

542
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: and she knows what this means because probably yeah or something.

543
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: So this was interesting. Corey was more conniving than I remember, like,

544
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: you know, as as as the show went on, you know,

545
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: Corey obviously grew up and Ben added his own thing

546
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: and it changed completely. I forgot that there's like this

547
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: real Dennis the Menace, like you know, a wise guy,

548
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: smart aleck Corey. That's what I forgot that between between

549
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: Corey and Bill Daniels, that Coy and Mr Feeney, that

550
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: was absolutely Dennis. That like that evaporated in Corey by

551
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: you know, season I don't know when, but by the time,

552
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: you know, season seven, like there was no I mean,

553
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: he would never be like a manipulative, smart alecky character

554
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: like that. So it's so interesting that the show clearly

555
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: started from this place and and it works, you know,

556
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: it's but he's also there all a little meaner to

557
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: each other. And I remember, like there's also like classic trope, yeah,

558
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: you know the young you know, adult acting kid, Yes,

559
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: the con Man totally. You know, it's a great story

560
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: icon too, and and Ben was very good at it,

561
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: and it's it's a very fun and it's also very

562
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's someone to watch. Yeah, you know

563
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: that you want to go, Okay, what are they really

564
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: going to do? Well, that's the thing, I mean say.

565
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: One of the things that strikes me as I'm rewatching

566
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: these episodes. Is A, Ben was in every single scene,

567
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: every sing and B. He can carry the show. Absolutely,

568
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: really can carry the show. You watch him the whole time.

569
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: He's like a little stand up comedian and he really

570
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: can carry the weight twelve year old actor. That's pretty

571
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: amazing that he was. He was able to do that

572
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: because he was in every single scene so far for

573
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: the two episodes that we've watched, which is nuts, that's

574
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,959
Speaker 1: that's and then going to school and doing everything out.

575
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a lot of weight on your shoulder.

576
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: And I thought halfway through this episode, I was just like, man,

577
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: Ben's actually really good, Like he's really good at that.

578
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: And I think we all took that for granted. I

579
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: think we all thought of ourselves. I mean even though

580
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: we know the show was built around him, and it

581
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: was like, well, we're all working, we're all doing that.

582
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: Like no, in these early years, it was all bad,

583
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: Like there was so much pressure on him to carry

584
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: the show. Like you're saying, he nails it and like

585
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: and that the effortlessness with which Corey is like empathetic

586
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: and then sort of becomes also a smart alec and

587
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: he's like, what do you mean, you know, like give

588
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: me the you know what does he say, Well, we'll

589
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: get into Yeah, but he's he's really good. Yeah, yeah,

590
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: it was. I was. I was amazing because I haven't

591
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: seen it in so long. That's one of the things

592
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: I really took away from the first two episodes was like, man,

593
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,479
Speaker 1: Ben's good at this. Yeah. So he tells his mom

594
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: he wants a water gun. He shows or a brochure

595
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: and it's fifty dollars and then Dad Rusty down the

596
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: stairs grabs him in a in a bear hug from behind,

597
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: which is just so cute. And uh he looks at

598
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: the water gun and he says, hmm, that seems pretty steep,

599
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: pretty expensive. You can't get it now, but maybe we

600
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: could get it for you for Christmas. Rusty, what's it

601
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: like to have like, what's it like to have a

602
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: TV wife, a TV family? What? What is that? How

603
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: do you create that chemistry? Because like I'm watching you

604
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: and Ben, and right from the beginning, I just buy

605
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: and believe that you guys have a father son relationship.

606
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: You just feel it. Oh well, thank you. Well, I

607
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: think I think hopefully that's what actors bring. I mean,

608
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: as an actor, I part of me believes more and

609
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: make believe than real life, because there I can be

610
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: anything I want. And Ben was a sweet kid. You

611
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: all were, and I was, you know, getting to know

612
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: you guys. But again, part of it is just jumping

613
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: in and going for it. And thank goodness, Ben was

614
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: there too, as you all were. Really, as far as

615
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: I'm concerned, um, I don't know, you know, I don't know.

616
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: He was a wonderful actor and a great kid, and

617
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: I just you know, you have to be brave. I

618
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: just said, Okay, this is what I do with my kids.

619
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: You know, this is what I do. You know, with

620
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: my son or my daughter. You know, in the family

621
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: of five. You know, my dad was you know, great dad,

622
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: you know, and he wan hugg us and you know

623
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: that's what you want. What do you want from my father?

624
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: I thought, this is immediate time to say, oh, this

625
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: is where we are, this is my kid. I do

626
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: remember as a kid actor getting jobs where you'd be

627
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: somebody's kid, and um, the good actors would physically spend

628
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: time with you, because you need to be comfortable, you

629
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: need to be like I remember, I did a movie

630
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: called Benefit of the Doubt with Amy Irvine and like,

631
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: that's a that's a whole story, and never let me

632
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: forget that I was in that movie because I'm so

633
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: bad in it, and he would just imitate me every morning.

634
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: He saw it on TV one day and then he

635
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: was like, writer, what is this movie? Amy Irving? Uh?

636
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: You know, like in my my screen test, she just

637
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: she was like, we do the scene and then she's like, hey, writer,

638
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: can you just come sit in my lap? Like in

639
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: retrospect it's kind of weird, but at the time it

640
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: was like, that's what and we just and then she

641
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: just hugged me and held me and it was like

642
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: we needed the physical and it's it seems weird, but

643
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: it's true. As a kid to have a parent kid relationship,

644
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 1: the actors need to have a dynamic that it's believable,

645
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: that's lived in and it's it's it's super Yeah. And

646
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: you guys had that instantly. Yeah, you know, and you

647
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 1: develop that. I mean, who knows we developed at the

648
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: craft service ta kid Ben or I would kid you

649
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: or Danielle or you know, Will It's like, what are

650
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: you doing? What kind of shoes are those? What are

651
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: you yea last night? Where did you go? You know?

652
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: You kind of like any kind of but and actors

653
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: can hopefully most people can do it kind of instantly.

654
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you think about it, you go to work,

655
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: you have to create some sort of life between the

656
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: other actors, and hopefully that's a gift that you have

657
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: or not. You know. Fortunately Ben was great, and yeah,

658
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: I just kind of showed up baby and trying not

659
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: to run into the furniture. There's there's a question that

660
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: I we should have asked last episode, but I want

661
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: to ask now because we we've heard about this from

662
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 1: some of the other actors that were on the show

663
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: that we will get to eventually. But was there ever

664
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: a time, especially at the beginning, where you thought to yourself,

665
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: this isn't gonna work, this isn't for me, and I

666
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: might not want to be here. No good, Okay, No,

667
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: I don't think so. No. I there are many times

668
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: I went, oh, I don't get there. A lot of things,

669
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 1: a lot of things I don't know that I don't

670
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: know right right. I would do something and David Trainer

671
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: kindly would point out, oh, I need you to look

672
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: over here or do this, or you can't walk in

673
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: the back like that. You look crazy. You know. There

674
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: were just things in the format that I went, Oh,

675
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: I was so used to doing, you know, single camera

676
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: and things, and the dynamics and the set and the

677
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: you know, we're all kind of different dimensions, and it

678
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: took me a while to adjust certain things because there

679
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: were certain things I would do that I wasn't sure

680
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 1: the camera was getting or not. Though I never really

681
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: worry about that, Okay, I'm just curious. No, no, I

682
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: always you know, once I committed to it, and as

683
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: I said, you guys were so great and I love

684
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: the writers, and man I was I was really glad

685
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: to be there. Cool. So then we're in Korean Eric's room.

686
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: Eric is trying to put a girl's number in his watch.

687
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: I definitely remember being so excited about having a Cassio

688
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: digital watch that could do that. Was a calculator watch

689
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: that was so advanced in whenever I had it. Um

690
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: So it's but now it just seems so dated, and

691
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: I believe it's the Eric says the same name, it's

692
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: still Heather from the pilot. So, and then I believe

693
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: Nicky Cox plays Heather. So he's been dating the same

694
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: girl for two or three episodes, which the thing I

695
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: like about that is that it kind of ties back

696
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: into the previous episode where Corey told you to call her,

697
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: which means it didn't work work and she stuck around

698
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: and you guys were able to continue your relationship. Um.

699
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: And so Corey's like, hey, how did you get your

700
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: parents to buy that watch for you? And you explained

701
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: that you actually bought it with your own money because

702
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: you have a job, and what I did. Eric, Eric

703
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: had a job. What he didn't ever have were scenes

704
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 1: with the parents, So it was always like the parents

705
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: would be downstairs and then Eric's upstairs in his room,

706
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 1: so it was still like it was just it's normal,

707
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: but it was it's very strange. You'd always be talking

708
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: about stuff, but it was never like I wasn't working.

709
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: You actually come down for a brief second in the

710
00:37:54,920 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: next scene. One quick, one quick, little out again. But

711
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: it was we were all kept very insular at the time.

712
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: It was like, this is your set, like, okay, rider,

713
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: you know at the time, Sean, you're in school, the

714
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: this is your set. Yeah, the bedroom was your kitchen

715
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 1: was Alan and Amy exactly. And then Ben got to

716
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: run between the worlds and it was Foenie backyard, Poenie

717
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: classroom was Poenie, but not as much yet. We haven't

718
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: really established that yet, so it was it was It's

719
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: very interesting they set up all these different worlds and

720
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: then the through line is been running from world to

721
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: world world and we and and nobody's been really meshed yet, right,

722
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: which is which is an interesting, interesting look at the

723
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: whole thing. And you know, it's kind of inevitable, right,

724
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: it has to happen, and they set it up. They

725
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: always set it up with with the opening static shot

726
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: start of either the house or the school, and then

727
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: you know where the camera pans in, like, oh, they're

728
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: going upstairs to the bedroom, it's going to be an

729
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 1: eric scene, They're going downstairs to the front door, it's

730
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: going to be a kid and scene. Like by that,

731
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: you knew where you were going to be in the

732
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: house and and by extension, what actors you were going

733
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: to see the exterior of the house, did you do?

734
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: You guys know that that house is in Studio City

735
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: on Colfax, right across from the studio, right across from

736
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: where we shot. And just yesterday I passed the exterior

737
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 1: for the school, which is on the name of the school,

738
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: but it's a Beautiful High School and Lovesteless one of

739
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: the few brick schools in Los Angeles. Why it was

740
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: the exterior because it looks like an East Coast it does.

741
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: But I drove by with India yesterday after we watched

742
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: the episode. I was like, there it is and he

743
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: was like what really? Well, I remember when they sold

744
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: the house, they sold it as The Boy. I mean

745
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: that was like it was first sale as the Boy

746
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: means world house. Yeah, speaking of all the different worlds

747
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 1: that is. It actually is very much how a child's

748
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: life feels. You do feel like you're like I have

749
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: so many things. I have my home life, and I

750
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: have my friend life, and I have my school life,

751
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: and everything feels nothing feels like a it goes well together.

752
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: It just fluid. It's not fluid at all. It's very interesting. Yeah. Okay,

753
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: So then we're in the kitchen. Are you at all

754
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 1: handy rusty? Because I noticed in this episode you're you're

755
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: fixing the toilet, you're fixing the sink. Are you handy

756
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: in that way? Are you like, can you fix stuff?

757
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm an actor. I let other people fix stuff. Yeah,

758
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: I'm terrible. I'm relatively like if it's a toilet, a sink,

759
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: something like that. Then I fix it around the house.

760
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: Really learned years. Yeah, my dad figured it. Yeah, I

761
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: live by myself since I was sixteen. It's like, am

762
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: I going to call a plumber because the sink is making? No,

763
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: you should go outside, you shut off the water. You

764
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: fix the sink. I wouldn't even know how to shut

765
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: off the water. You're gonna need to learn how to

766
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: do that because if there's a flood or something, you're

767
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: gonna need how to learn how to shut off the

768
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: water in your house. That's important. There's usually one valve

769
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: coming in from the street or two. If you've got

770
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: to want to know where that is your water valve.

771
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna want to know where those are. Those are

772
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: two important things. All right, I'm gonna learn it later today.

773
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: But no, I'm not doing a leg. I'm not like,

774
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: you know, rewiring anything but basic stuff. Hey, the toilet's running,

775
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: I can do that, you know, I'll call you the

776
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: joy of being able. I do appreciate though, how establishing

777
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: you know the parents in this scene they get a

778
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: real life blue callar. You know, there's a sense of

779
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: like money is kind of you shoot, it's not just

780
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: like because some sitcoms, that's not that's removed. My money

781
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: is just removed. Other sitcoms like Rosanne was like money

782
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: was obviously between you know, it's like, oh, you own

783
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: this grocery store. I'm assuming you know, like the manager manager. Okay, great,

784
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: so yeah, but you know there there there's also that

785
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: sarcastic line like that you deliver to Betsy is like

786
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: remember when we were before, before we knew each other,

787
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: when we were happy, and you know that is like

788
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: classic sitcom banter. But it also does establish the sort

789
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: of level that this that this family lives at, you know,

790
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: which I like. I think it's it's it's a good

791
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: because we're in Philadelphia, but we're kind of in the suburbs.

792
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: It definitely feels like the suburbs of are quite explain where,

793
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: you know. But I also like though that they're also

794
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: establishing that the parents have a real work ethic. So

795
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: it's like if you want to buy something, get a

796
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: job and go and buy something, And that's I think

797
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: something that's that's lost a little bit on certain generations.

798
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: So I like that that was still written into the

799
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: show where it's like, hey, you got that watch where'd

800
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: you get it? Well, I earned the money. And there's

801
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: even the line where Eric says, Dad said to me,

802
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: it's my money. I get to spend it the way

803
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: I want to. And it's I like that. It's like,

804
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: that's your money. You've earned it. Now you can go

805
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: do with it what you want. And you don't see

806
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: that a lot on sitcoms either, So that was that

807
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: was cool. Yeah, so go make some money and give

808
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: it me exactly. Okay, So this is the first time

809
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: where Alan specifically mentions because Corey says he wants a job.

810
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: He comes down, he's like, hey, my brother has a job.

811
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: He gets to spend his money, then why can't I

812
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: get a job? And this is the first time where

813
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 1: you get to deliver the moral of the story from

814
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: the adult perspective, really is No, your job is to

815
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: be a kid, and and that is just as important

816
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: of a job as any other job that we all have.

817
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: And once it's gone, you cannot get it back, unlike

818
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: a real job, where once one job goes you could

819
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: always go get another job. Being a kid is such

820
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: a temporary and very fleeting thing, although when you are

821
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: a kid it feels like it's never gonna be over

822
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: my my like, this is today while we're recording, this

823
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: is my son's last day of first grade. Gosh, and

824
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: he could not come sooner. He thought this is was

825
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: the longest year ever, Like, oh my god, you know

826
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: how this is flown by? I believe you're done with

827
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: first grade? Stop? Slow down? It does it happened? I mean,

828
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: I remember my whole life. I wanted to be thirty,

829
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: and now thirty is eleven years behind me. And I

830
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: do still love aging. I don't have a problem with aging.

831
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: I do. I think life gets better as you get older,

832
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: assuming you're willing to, you know, assuming you're actually growing

833
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: and evolving and learning and becoming a different person. Life

834
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: has just continues to get better the more you know. Um,

835
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 1: but boy, I just felt like, you know, I remember

836
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 1: at the beginning of a school year and being like, well, yeah,

837
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 1: we'll do that next summer, being like the next summer

838
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: never going to be here forever? Is there is there

839
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: some sort of irony about a show about how you

840
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: have to be a kid and stay a kid as

841
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: long as you can. That's starring a kid actor who's

842
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: got the entire way to the world on his shoulders.

843
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: But that's what I mean, just talk about how he

844
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: runs everything, and the whole episode is about you gotta

845
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: keep being a kid. And it's like, except you, Ben,

846
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: because you gotta make money. Yeah exactly. Now go to

847
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: school and now come back and keep the four hundred

848
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: people on the cast crew and everything employed. Ben, So

849
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: be a kid. There's something disturb menywhere it's like, you

850
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: know that was the moral is everybody you need to

851
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: keep your childhood except for you Ben. You gotta get

852
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: back to you. Yeah, Rusty, did you ever talk to

853
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: the writers about your character, your storylines, lines you wrote?

854
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: What was your relationship with them? Like is it related

855
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: to every week's episode? I have to say I had

856
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: a great uh rapport with the writers. They were terrific writers,

857
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: and you know, I loved you know, I knew that

858
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: they were always trying to find the funny, you know,

859
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: but they're also going for a heart of the matter.

860
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: And that's what I was always trying to go, well,

861
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: what is this scene really about besides this joke? And

862
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: there and Michael I have to say, I mean, to

863
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: his his his credit, he always was saying, well, it's

864
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: about this, about this, and then if we can lay

865
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: a joke on it, or we find it in a

866
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 1: funny way that we like, then we'll do it. So

867
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: I had, you know, I loved the writers and I loved,

868
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: as I say, the tapings and watching you kids all

869
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: the time. And once in a while is something to

870
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: come up and I kind of tork my ears and

871
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: though it doesn't really quite sound writer doesn't quite work,

872
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: and hopefully I would talk to you guys and say,

873
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: you know, let's try this. What's this about? That not working? Yell,

874
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: let's try it another way, you know. I mean, that

875
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: was what the rehearsal was about, was want to discovery

876
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: what is this about? You know, That's definitely something I

877
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: learned literally, like my very first week and then continue

878
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: to learn every week thereafter. Was like truly breaking down

879
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: a script from every character's perspective, What is this about

880
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: for you? What is this about for you? What is

881
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: this about for you? Because from every character's perspective, it's

882
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: a little bit different. And obviously the you know, as

883
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: we're seeing with Indie, Indie is seeing it through the

884
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: Corey eyes. He truly is the Corey character. Um. But

885
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: like I breaking down a script and for the actor

886
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: to know I am responding and reacting this way in

887
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: this scene because for me, what this is about right

888
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: now is this, and that's because of what just happened before.

889
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: And I don't know what's going to happen in the future,

890
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: but in the future, this is going to happen because

891
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: of what's happening right now, and good writing accommodates that

892
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: bad doesn't. And I feel like one of the things

893
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: that separated Boy's World from a lot of other sitcoms

894
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 1: was that Michael Jacobs wanted answers. He didn't mind every

895
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 1: character having their perspective and an arc, whereas I could

896
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 1: see on other shows they'd just be like, because it's funny. Yeah,

897
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: there is not a wasted moment. The Superman banter in

898
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: the beginning, which seems like the most casual I didn't

899
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: write it down when I went because I didn't think

900
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: it was important to the show is easy banter, and

901
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: then it made me cry. Exactly this scene that we're

902
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: still talking about because we're only on scene three, him

903
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: fixing the sink comes back when Amy grabs it as

904
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: her score kind of the in the it's like unbelievable.

905
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: There's not a wasted line there's not a wasted physical move,

906
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: and this is like, this show is tight, but this

907
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: is what it's about. This is about going back and

908
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: watching it as adults and finding being able to appreciate

909
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: actually that everything went into this little show that we

910
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: were like, well, but now I'm sneezing the lottery numbers.

911
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: But there's a but it is and that's what makes

912
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: actually great movies, great books, great any of you as

913
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: I get older, as you get older, I mean, you

914
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: see why this works. And then the use that you

915
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: use the very important term there's nothing wasted. Everything is

916
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 1: there for a moment. There's nothing you know, superfluous to

917
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: what's going on. I mean, and you can look at

918
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: Lawrence of Arabia movie most like that, and you'll see

919
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: every moment leads to the next and continues as a story,

920
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: as does Boy Meets World or a good writing which

921
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: is which is pretty incredible actually, and it's it's one

922
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: of those things where I was constantly amazed. So we'll

923
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: talk about nothing wasted. There's one moment which I'm not

924
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: sure we've gotten back to, because obviously there's several through

925
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: lines that go through here. Mr Feenie always throws one

926
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: in In this case, Alan Threw went in about being

927
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: a kid um. But one of the things that I

928
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: was surprised they kind of mixed literary references because he

929
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 1: talks about the Raven and so I was like, oh,

930
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: how's the raven gonna come back? And it never did.

931
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 1: And then they jumped to Tom Sawyer. And that's why

932
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,959
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, so waiting, how well that okay,

933
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 1: so something I'm thinking, No, I'm not going to make

934
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: the connection. I'm I do. It's it's interesting to me

935
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: watching the pilot and this how much Phoenie is sort

936
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: of a caricature of culture, you know what I mean,

937
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: He's such this refined cultural guy and so those, yeah,

938
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: those references I think are kind of hokey. Actually, Like

939
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: that's one of my least favorite parts because there's the

940
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: Tom Sawyer one is great because you could see but

941
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 1: you know, I just think it's interested like Phoenie is

942
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: just you know, it's like the Western cannon. It's just

943
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: like every time he opens his mouth, he's going to

944
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 1: make a reference like Emily Dickinson Black. It's like every exactly.

945
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: Let's keep tracking because I think it's so funny. But

946
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: you know, it is how in eleven year old sees

947
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: right these cultures, you know. But yeah, I I find

948
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: it funny that it's like he can't open his mouth

949
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: with a name dropping some awesome that's the new thing.

950
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: It is there. It was very but I was waiting

951
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: for that to come back, like, Okay, he specifically mentions

952
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: the Raven. That's not just gonna be dangling. They're going

953
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 1: to bring them. Oh no, they didn't. That just was

954
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: just the thing, like I don't know, So it was

955
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 1: that I found interesting. But then of course they worked

956
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: in Tom Sawyer and then you also get the great

957
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: Lee line, which will get but they is like, am

958
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: I the only one who read the Summer Zyllabus? You know,

959
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 1: because we always would get them and you never read

960
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: them everything. Probably read them, every single one. That's the

961
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: point of the mention of the Raven and Tom Sawyer. Yeah,

962
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: no one read them. That's why. Exactly. So we're in

963
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: the backyard. We see Phoene he's he's trimed his roses. Uh.

964
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: Corey offers to help. Uh. Phoeny says, no, stay away

965
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: from the roses. But Corey asks for fifty dollars in

966
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: advance to shovel snow in the winter, and Phoenie says no,

967
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: but he does need his shutters painted. And then we

968
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: get a little math joke. He was willing to pay him.

969
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 1: It was so funny. He's willing to pay him eighty bucks,

970
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: but he tells him he's willing to pay him five dollars.

971
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: Five dollars. Five dollars was five times two times eight

972
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: times eight and there were eight shutters or something, and

973
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: he was willing whatever, and it was gonna be eighty bucks.

974
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: But you see Corey go through the math and he

975
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,959
Speaker 1: comes up with fifty eight bucks, and Phoeny says, deal,

976
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: fifty eight bucks. I'll pay a fifty eight bucks for it,

977
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: which is fine with Corey because all he needs is

978
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: fifty to buy his water gun. Um. So that's a

979
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: great joke though, how even even the teacher is like,

980
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: if you're not going to do the math, you're not

981
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 1: going to correct you to pay you more. Well, it's

982
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: actually it leads to a really funny joke where he says,

983
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: you earned every cent of that s plus I gave

984
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: you in math, which is really great. Um. The quintessential

985
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: like line for me that um that surprised me get

986
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: a pulse, so like a kind of obnoxious kid, but

987
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: it comes back. That's what I mean. That is that

988
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: I wrote down. It's like, what is this? I forgot

989
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: this aspect of our show. Get We're still in the backyard.

990
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 1: Corey paints all the shutters and Phoeney pays him the money.

991
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: The shutters look great. Everybody's impressed. But once they move

992
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: the shutters happened. Alan notices that Corey has painted the

993
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: shutters against the fence and their side of the fence. Now,

994
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: the Matthew side of the fence is now zebra print

995
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: basically with green paint, and Corey cannot go to the

996
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: water War because he has to fix the fence. By

997
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: the way Indie's restaurants, it looks better that way. It's

998
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: like the zebra thing is cool, the stripes are great.

999
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 1: Why don't they just leave it? I was like, it

1000
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: seems you're kind of right, dude. Yeah, so um uh.

1001
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: Corey's obviously bummed. He's like, what the sucks? I really

1002
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: wanted to go to the water War. He has to stay.

1003
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: Um and we're back in the kitchen. This is where

1004
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 1: Lily Uh is tying your apron because we see you

1005
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: going to work, going Eric going to work and doing

1006
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: the little boat tip. So this is as I was

1007
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: watching this, this reminded me of again what Michael was

1008
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: clearly trying to do. He was trying to find the

1009
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: pairs and the teams that were going to work. So

1010
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: for for a good six or seven episodes, they were

1011
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: trying to make Eric and uh Morgan a thing. Um.

1012
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 1: They were trying to make you know, Corey and Corey

1013
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: was there for everybody, but were trying to pair people

1014
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,439
Speaker 1: up where it was going to be like, let's see

1015
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: what teams work which. Again, by the end, you know,

1016
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 1: middle midway through season one or two, it was all

1017
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: of a sudden it was Eric and Peeney like. So

1018
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: they were trying to see what season one is. When

1019
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: you guys, nail, it's when we started. We started to

1020
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: get there. But you could tell they were trying to

1021
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: see which teams have the chemist. And one of the

1022
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,720
Speaker 1: coolest things I ever heard about this was was Family

1023
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 1: Guy Seth MacFarland talks about this where he's like, the

1024
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: idea when we started the show that the show was

1025
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: going to end up being Stewie and Brian is ridiculous.

1026
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: There's like, there's no way the dog and the baby

1027
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: are going to run the show. He's like, and then

1028
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 1: you start to let the actors go, and all of

1029
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 1: a sudden, the characters, the characters they matched the way

1030
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: they're supposed to match. So this is the start of

1031
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 1: them going like, all right, here's the Eric Morgan scene,

1032
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: because this is gonna be a thing. And um, you

1033
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 1: know this is essentially why the death chair was there, right,

1034
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: It is because they were trying to find that character

1035
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 1: that would pop and you know that chemistry they're just

1036
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: trying to find. Yeah, and I mean it was great.

1037
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: I think until Tapanga shows up the whole thing. Japanga

1038
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: showing up changes the whole thing. Um. But yeah, So

1039
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 1: it was working with with Lily was wonderful. She was

1040
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 1: a ton of fun to work with a little kid,

1041
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 1: and she she would love to, you know, make jokes

1042
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: and and always had a big smile on her face.

1043
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: Jumping ahead, Rusty while we have you here. Eventually Lily

1044
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: gets swapped out. We replaced Lily nix A with Lindsay Ridgeway.

1045
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 1: What is what was your what's your memory of that time?

1046
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: Because you know, I think we all have different perspective

1047
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 1: perspectives of it based on how much we were working

1048
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: or what we saw at the time. What was your

1049
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 1: perspective of what was going on around that time? Well,

1050
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: I think there was um some issues that had to

1051
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: do with growing up, and it's possible Lily didn't necessarily

1052
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 1: want to be a child actor. Yeah, I think I'm

1053
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: not sure. She was very happy at the time, and

1054
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: Michael Jacobs, to his credit, could see that. He and

1055
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: they decided what was best personally, Yeah, for for her

1056
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: was to let her go, was to you know, let

1057
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 1: her try something else, you know, somewhere else. And I

1058
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: think that's really what it was about. Yeah, how many

1059
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: seasons did we go without? I was gonna say she

1060
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: wasn't really replaced at first. It was just they got

1061
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: rid of the character. They just knowledge one day Lily

1062
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: was gone, and then Lindsay was there. It's like Lily

1063
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 1: was gone and started I know, but but it just

1064
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: wasn't mentioned and then and then and then they to

1065
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: bring the character back because what we were talking about

1066
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: where it was a whole another dynamic of the show

1067
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: and a whole another audience of the show. So it's

1068
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: like they need to bring her back. And then they

1069
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: made a joke about it, and then Lindsey walks down.

1070
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: It was in my room for a really long time,

1071
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 1: very long time out. Yeah, you know, this is coming

1072
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: back from what they're feeling from audiences. Yeah, you know.

1073
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: I mean, nothing's done in a vacuum, and then you

1074
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 1: find what a lot of funds you don't know do

1075
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: you do it? It's like everything, you try it and

1076
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: see what's working or not. And that's the that's the

1077
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: the the interesting thing about doing a TV show every week,

1078
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: as opposed to a movie where you just do it

1079
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: and put it out there and see what's happening. Then

1080
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 1: you can edit with it. But every week you have

1081
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: this living, growing thing that you're taking information from from

1082
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: the audience, from the writers, seeing how it moves. Yeah,

1083
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: she's so, she's so naturally funny. She was, and she's

1084
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,919
Speaker 1: just cute as a button. I know. We talked about

1085
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: it in the first episode. Just didn't want to be there. Yeah,

1086
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: I mean we and I don't think at first, not

1087
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: at this point, not at this point, at this point,

1088
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: but but later she was she was like six again

1089
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: when we were talking about the pressure, you really have

1090
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: to want it because it is it's a lot, it's

1091
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: a lot on your shoulders. And she was six years old,

1092
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: six and yeah, I think I think eventually she just

1093
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: got to a point where she was like, this isn't

1094
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: as fun as you guys all think you always had fun,

1095
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: and hopefully that's why you're still here because it's fun. Yeah, exactly. Okay.

1096
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: So Corey then comes into the kitchen. He grabs ice

1097
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: cream bars for his friends who are outside because he's

1098
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: tried to sucker them into painting the fence. Yeah he's suckering. Yeah,

1099
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: but he suckered you into it with with money he's

1100
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: paying you. Um, and I love this he hands uh,

1101
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: I love Lee, saying he really prefers a heath bar crunch.

1102
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: I think that's very funny, and dipping it in the dirt,

1103
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: putting a handful of dirt on it. Here, chew on that. Okay.

1104
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: So then the friends leave, writer or did you have

1105
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: any have a lawyer called my mom? I didn't remember that.

1106
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, Sean, stuff, I think this

1107
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: scene too. I wanted to the blocking in this show.

1108
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: I find so much more interesting than what we do

1109
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: in today's day and age. As a director of kids TV,

1110
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: now I am We're often limited by everybody wants to

1111
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: see two eyeballs at all times, and nobody wants anything

1112
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: in front of anybody's face. You're all the way upstage,

1113
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: practically behind a tree when you deliver the line have

1114
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: your lawyer called my mom. And I love it your body.

1115
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: I also know that you get to see our feet

1116
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: all the time. I was freaking out about how the sneakers.

1117
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: I was like, these are cool. I remember those wearing

1118
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: cool monarchs. In the scene where he's fixing under the sink,

1119
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: by the ways under the sink, I could barely even

1120
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: see one eye. And I love it. It feels like

1121
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: I'm watching it's a real family. Multicam used to be

1122
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: more stage like, and it's gotten back then was better, Yes, yeah,

1123
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: I mean watch Cheers. Cheers was shot on film and

1124
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: it's beautiful and it feels like it feels like a

1125
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: filmed play and you get to watch actors use their

1126
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: body their hands. Nowadays, multy cam ye, but nowadays MALTI

1127
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: a beautiful set when some of them. But nowadays multi

1128
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: cam is emulating single cameras so often, and that we've

1129
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: we've we've come to expect. I think too much of

1130
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: it or certain, And I don't think audiences care. I

1131
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: don't think to care. I think executive scared exactly. I

1132
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: don't think kids are like I didn't think that was

1133
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: funny because I could only see one of their eye

1134
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: most In fact, they I think being able to see

1135
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: actors a little distanced and a little it is. Actually

1136
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: it's it's more involving the fourth wall on so many

1137
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: shows that people are talking right to the camera, like

1138
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: literally directly to the camera that now just seeing half

1139
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: of their face doesn't do it anymore, and it's like

1140
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: come on, So yeah, very strange. Yeah, I noticed that,

1141
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: especially in that scene. I was like, man to be

1142
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 1: able to play with the whole set. Yeah, that's that

1143
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: back space was not wasted. We're on a sitcom set now,

1144
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: would be like, well, we can't do is that? That's

1145
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: an interesting question, Rusty. Was there a set that you

1146
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: preferred shooting in over another set, because I remember, like

1147
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: the living room set when we would shoot there, it

1148
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: seemed like we had a lot more to play with

1149
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: than they when they would throw us in, say the

1150
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: bedroom set. So was there a set where it was like, yeah,

1151
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: this is there's this is more freeing to me to

1152
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: think if I liked anything, I like the outside, the backyard. Yeah,

1153
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 1: like that. What else you have to take? You account

1154
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: that a lot of people are saying, well, you're not

1155
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: gonna see this when you're watching it on your phone. Right.

1156
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: The screens are in one sense bigger, right, and then

1157
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: on the other sense they're smaller. You know, people looking

1158
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: on their gigantic screen at home from Costco, and then

1159
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: they're also looking at the phone on the subway. I

1160
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: never understood people that had big screens. We'll talk about Okay,

1161
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: So Corey is alone. His friends have left, they've gone

1162
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: to the water war. He's Corey still has more coats

1163
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: to do on the fence. Uh. Alan comes back from work.

1164
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: He's had a long day. Your tie is undone, that's

1165
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: how we know you've had a long day. And uh

1166
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: Phoene comes out and says that when he was a kid,

1167
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: he was worked from sun up to sundown and that's

1168
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: the way Alan should be handling things with Corey. And

1169
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: he goes inside. This was an interesting dynamic. Yeah, the

1170
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: difference between Phoenie as authority and Dada's authority. I really

1171
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: appreciate yea because I I in my mind it was

1172
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: like Phoenie's never wrong. But here's episode one, basically episode two,

1173
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: like the show went, I Phenie wasn't exactly right, Like

1174
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: that's cool, Like he he gave advice that was not

1175
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: horrible advice, but like here here Alan's going to take

1176
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: in a different direction. I really appreciated that. Yeah, adults

1177
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 1: who disagree politely different totally and you and you're you

1178
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: just your your heart just goes right to Rusty. And

1179
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 1: I like the I like the idea that, like the

1180
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: subtext for Rusty is really like you get him all

1181
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: day at school. He's on my side of the fence

1182
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: now and I get and I'm going to handle it

1183
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: my way, which was, you know, pick Corey up from

1184
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: laying on the floor and telling him that he should

1185
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 1: stay eleven years old for as long as he possibly can.

1186
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: And he didn't want him to be like Phenie didn't

1187
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 1: want to work him. Son up to sundown, go play,

1188
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: and you send him off to go to the water

1189
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 1: war and you take over painting the fence for Corey.

1190
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: And if we're totally honest after watching the episode, there's

1191
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: barely any left to paint and multiple clote they have

1192
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: to do. I mean, it's it's like, there's fifteen minutes

1193
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: worth of work. Hey, dude, have you spent a day

1194
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 1: managing a grocery? You know, yes, I know, but I

1195
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: mean it's you know I'm saying for for Corey, It's like,

1196
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: there's you've got fifteen minutes worth of work left there.

1197
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: Twenty minutes. Oh my god, dude. I mean having a

1198
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: seven year old and I know it's not going to

1199
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: be any better when I'm like asking him to pick

1200
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: up his shoes as a twenty minute battle. So, you know,

1201
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: like getting a kid to paint a fense at eleven.

1202
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: It was also talk about why not just put a

1203
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 1: thing behind the thing and use the actual paint sprayer

1204
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: before he had a sprayer of the first time. Now

1205
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: all of a sudden he decides to go go with

1206
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 1: one brush. Come on, this is a terrible show. Let's

1207
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: be honest. They have to put the tarp between it

1208
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 1: and the roses. And as you saw, based on how

1209
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 1: Mr Fini's protected, he wouldn't. He wouldn't let that happen,

1210
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: so they wouldn't. That's the real reason why they couldn't.

1211
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: Back then, he had to do it by hand. Look

1212
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: at look at Rusty Allen's got the tie on day.

1213
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: How we know he's had a long day. Days over

1214
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: just amazing. Welling about the dynamic between Phoenie and Alan.

1215
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 1: Also is that Phoenie has no children. Yeah, he's not

1216
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: a parent. You're right, he's a teacher. Yeah, And there's

1217
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: always the thing to the writer's credit, there's this certain

1218
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:17,919
Speaker 1: kind of app but what it really comes to children. Yeah,

1219
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 1: that's where Alan comes in. That's interesting, that's really interesting.

1220
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 1: Has two sort of sources of authority that are he's

1221
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: very different, different He's taught kids his whole life, but

1222
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: he's never raised And there is nothing like raising a child.

1223
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: There's there's there you could you could couldn't explain it

1224
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 1: to somebody, sure if you tried. And so there is

1225
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 1: the things the way the parent I was before I

1226
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: had children is a totally different parent than I was

1227
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 1: after I had children, because I was in my mind

1228
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: I was a well when I have children, and well,

1229
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: well if I was that child's parents and now are yeah,

1230
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 1: you do. And you see talk about you know, finding

1231
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 1: out your laws and and them just being a mirror

1232
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 1: to the things you still have left to work on.

1233
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 1: It is it is one of those things. So yeah,

1234
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,439
Speaker 1: they're definitely phoene pick such a good call. And being

1235
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 1: a good parent is so different than being a good teacher.

1236
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 1: You can be great at one and awful at the other,

1237
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 1: and being a parent of one child it's a lot

1238
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 1: different than being a parent of a lot of ways better. Yeah, otherwise,

1239
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 1: quadrupled to work. I'm going to have five of my

1240
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: own way any time? Will anytime? No, thank you? Yes,

1241
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 1: this is where spill on Aisle seven. That was seven.

1242
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: I don't know I thought I wrote down, but I

1243
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: do remember. This was one of those lines we used

1244
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 1: to say all at the time. Yeah, it was. It was,

1245
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 1: and it was just like Eric's like I had to

1246
01:05:56,600 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: box things today. It was half a half a ship shift.

1247
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:02,919
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It was crazy that this we haven't

1248
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 1: We hadn't really found the Eric Matthew's character yet. So

1249
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 1: none of them, myself, the writers, we didn't. Yeah, exactly

1250
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 1: exactly insert teen well teen at work here, you know,

1251
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: teen lying on bed tired kind of thing. Also, if

1252
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 1: you think about it, like teen has been at school,

1253
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: team teen is still I guess maybe it's summer were

1254
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: you're not in school? Do they really well know? It

1255
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 1: must have been because yeah, so you had gone to school.

1256
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: You had also you were also working. I'm assuming the

1257
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: water war was a weekend, but still like working half

1258
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: a shift when you're fifteen or sixteen years it is

1259
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,439
Speaker 1: kind of from your perspective, you do feel like, I'm exast.

1260
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 1: Nobody's ever worked this hard, and there man, my feet

1261
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 1: are killing me. But it was also that was at

1262
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 1: this point other than a line here there Eric was

1263
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: the bedroom. Yes, I mean that was it. It was

1264
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 1: like my room. Yes, that's it. That was the blocking.

1265
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: It was like I didn't like that sunthing. I like

1266
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: that sty It was an uncomfortable set. It was an

1267
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: uncomfortable set. It was also logistically, and I know this

1268
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 1: sounds ridiculous, it was all the way down at the

1269
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 1: end of the stage. It was not in front of

1270
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 1: the audience. It was and there's two beds. It was.

1271
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: And it wasn't until later that we actually started to

1272
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 1: utilize the entire set, like using the bathroom, like entering

1273
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 1: and exiting out of the bathroom, rolling in and out

1274
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 1: of the window, using the entire the entire set um.

1275
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 1: It was usually just that was like, okay, Eric, put

1276
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: Eric in the bedroom. Eric, bedroom set so it was,

1277
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 1: and then I'd come down and have one line like, oh,

1278
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:36,919
Speaker 1: that's right, you play my dad, and then I'd walk

1279
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 1: out and that way, and then they'd have a scene.

1280
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 1: So it was everybody's still finding themselves. Still the world's fun.

1281
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 1: We get another through the window shot. Well, in the

1282
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 1: last episode it was from the treehouse to Phoene's, but

1283
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: now we get from the bedroom window down into the

1284
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 1: backyard where we see Alan is still painting its sundown.

1285
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: The water wars over and he's still painting Superdad. And

1286
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 1: that conversation that I didn't even write down because I

1287
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 1: didn't think it was important to the episode from the

1288
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 1: cold open about what kind of super which, which superhero

1289
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 1: would you want your dad to be? Comes back? Just

1290
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:18,640
Speaker 1: killed me too. I actually teered. Yeah, I teered up too.

1291
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 1: They didn't dropped, Okay, so we should keep track. Yeah,

1292
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure did not fall. My eyes curled up, and

1293
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: I found myself kind of embarrassed, and I didn't know

1294
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 1: if I wanted Indie to see. But yeah, so that

1295
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 1: didn't drop down the cheek yet. I'm just sure that

1296
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: will happen. But let's we'll keep trash. I thought I

1297
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: was just like the biggest. I'm welling up thinking about

1298
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 1: it now. One well up. We got one well up,

1299
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: one up, one one well up. No, no tear drop,

1300
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 1: but one well up. If you're keeping keeping tally out there,

1301
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to ugly cry by season seven, Yeah, exactly.

1302
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 1: The episode was just so sweet honey coming in and

1303
01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:59,799
Speaker 1: but yeah, it was just so it was just so touching.

1304
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 1: Again talking about the blocking, I think that's just I

1305
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 1: love that we utilized the different you know, from the

1306
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 1: window into the backyard, from the treehouse into Phoene's yard. Uh,

1307
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:13,600
Speaker 1: that was early and that was good. Well, I know,

1308
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 1: I think it was better. We'll have to see. We

1309
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 1: could be wrong. We could be like, oh my gother

1310
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 1: in every episode, how do we not remember this? And

1311
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: then we get into the last scene of the show,

1312
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: which is just again another time. The welling up continued

1313
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 1: for me into this scene where you get to see

1314
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 1: little twelve year old Corey be so thoughtful. He has

1315
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 1: turned in his big water gun that he wanted so badly.

1316
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,799
Speaker 1: He has turned it in for two smaller water guns

1317
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 1: because he saw earlier in the episode that his dad

1318
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 1: thought the water gun was cool and he wants them

1319
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 1: to play together with it, and he's got it under

1320
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 1: he's got it under the table. And I loved Rusty

1321
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:55,639
Speaker 1: your performance, especially in this scene because I was thinking

1322
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 1: it was going to be a very oh wow water

1323
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 1: gun and now they're just for it. In my head

1324
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 1: as a mom, who is um you know hey, now

1325
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: now that's definitely the kind of parent I am. I

1326
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 1: that was your reaction. You didn't find out right away

1327
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 1: that there was a water gun and and think, oh, sure,

1328
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 1: this is all fun. Look look for TV. We're just

1329
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:16,640
Speaker 1: gonna have a water fight. No house, You're like, no,

1330
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 1: we don't do this here, and Corey has he has

1331
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 1: to really make an argument about yeah, and visiting childhood again,

1332
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 1: that idea that you don't ever get to go back

1333
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 1: to it to live, but you can come and visit

1334
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 1: it over. You can visit childhood again. Um, what do

1335
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 1: you remember about this water fight scene? Was it? Did

1336
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,759
Speaker 1: you guys practice during rehearsal? Did you did you actually

1337
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 1: do it for run through? Use real water guns? Think

1338
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 1: we used real guns during I don't think water wasn't

1339
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 1: like a big technical thing, right, I mean you have

1340
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 1: four cameras, they're going to see everything you're doing. Yeah, No,

1341
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: I think it was we're excited about. I mean, to me,

1342
01:10:56,439 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 1: that's the fun. Yeah, you know, let's do the unthinkable

1343
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 1: or maybe the different, you know, and I'm let's just

1344
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 1: do it. And a lot of times stuff like that

1345
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 1: behavior comes out of the actual you know, you're actually

1346
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 1: doing it, shooting getting wet um. That was always a

1347
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 1: fun for me, and the show was actually doing half

1348
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 1: the stuff we did. Yeah, you know, the actual doing

1349
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 1: of it. So I'm always ready to do that as

1350
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 1: long as wardrobes ready. Yeah they are ready. Yeah, it

1351
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 1: was fun. I I just I love the scene and

1352
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 1: then I love the joke too that he's like, well, mom,

1353
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 1: why don't you look under your scene? And she's like

1354
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: there's nothing there. He goes, what do you think I

1355
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:48,560
Speaker 1: made of money? Money? Yeah, that's cracked me up. You

1356
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 1: should have mentioned from the scene before I wrote it down.

1357
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 1: I think they tried to make it a thing. Ben

1358
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 1: always going you do that, tried to be that's right.

1359
01:11:58,000 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 1: He did that for like one or two episodes, and

1360
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 1: I think I went, you're not going to be wait

1361
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 1: what he says that back back with the in the

1362
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:07,679
Speaker 1: bedroom with you, right? Is it in the bedroom somewhere? Yes? Yeah,

1363
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 1: it's um, I do remember they were always trying to

1364
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 1: like find catch phrases. There was there's a couple of

1365
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 1: times in the next few episodes where he puts his

1366
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 1: hands on his shoulder or splits his hands on his

1367
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 1: hips and says, I'm such they tried to make you

1368
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 1: do a thing you do I do, like, remember you

1369
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 1: think you think that we were one of the first

1370
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 1: people to do you think? And then they're like, no,

1371
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 1: we tried catchphrases, and then the yeah what you knew?

1372
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 1: That was another one, and then the catchphrases that actually lasted.

1373
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: We didn't even know where catchphrases, which is the way

1374
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 1: it works, which is how it was. But yeah, it's interesting,

1375
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 1: Like in retrospect, I would never just show shows Michael

1376
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,600
Speaker 1: Jacob's experience that like if we can get a catchphrase,

1377
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,719
Speaker 1: would be good because it gives you a touch stand

1378
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 1: before branding exactly. Yeah, okay, So then it turns into

1379
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 1: a whole family water fight and the hose comes back.

1380
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 1: It was it wasn't it was weak water. But since

1381
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 1: Alan fixed exactly and full circle, the parents relax and

1382
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: we let the water fights start in the house and

1383
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 1: then it runs out into the backyard, and uh, we

1384
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:17,640
Speaker 1: have a tag. I love a good tag. This was

1385
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 1: a greatfect. She was really really good in this tag.

1386
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,839
Speaker 1: I thought she is absolutely adorable, the way she crosses

1387
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 1: her legs. She has the phone, so thanks to Indie

1388
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 1: from our segment to the phone. Did she get the phone?

1389
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 1: Good question? Unless it's on the counter. I don't think

1390
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 1: it's on the counter. How did she get on the counter?

1391
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 1: Did we see somebody put her on the counter. And

1392
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 1: somebody puts her on the counter and then they run outside,

1393
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,680
Speaker 1: and so she's stuck there. That's why she calls one, right, right,

1394
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 1: But Indie was right, how did she get the phone? Yeah?

1395
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 1: How did she get the phone? And it was in

1396
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 1: her pocket already? Yeah, yeah, that huge, enormous phone, the

1397
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 1: giant Yeah, and then she got the neighbor. Was just hysterical,

1398
01:13:56,040 --> 01:14:00,040
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, this was Indie was dying during this

1399
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 1: saying she was great, She was great. Yeah, they just

1400
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 1: shot the neighbor is a classic one. That and the

1401
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 1: you deserve every inch of that c plus I gave

1402
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 1: you in math or two of my two of my

1403
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 1: favorite lines from from that episode. Well, Rusty, you're a gem.

1404
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. You have any final thoughts.

1405
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 1: Do you have any final thoughts on the episode or

1406
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 1: just about the experience in general. I'm eternally grateful to

1407
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 1: work with you guys and the writers and being a

1408
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 1: part of it. It's been as thrilling and as wonderful

1409
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 1: and experience as I couldn't not possibly imagine I was

1410
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 1: going to say when it started. I mean, you were like, oh,

1411
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 1: what is the sitcom? Thanks all. I always say, you know,

1412
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 1: you never know. You have to try things Dorby sometimes,

1413
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: but that that line is still resonating with me. From

1414
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 1: the last episode. Russy said you can bang your head

1415
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 1: all day long against door ay, and if Dorby opens

1416
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 1: and you don't go into it, then you're an idiot.

1417
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 1: And yeah, absolutely true. That it's stuck with me since

1418
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 1: he said it. You have to sometimes it's about taking Doorby.

1419
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's about taking Doorby. And we all benefited from

1420
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 1: your Doorby that. Thank oh man, thank God, and my privilege,

1421
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 1: my privilege. Well you made it a lot easier on

1422
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,680
Speaker 1: a lot of us young actors out there. Taught us

1423
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,679
Speaker 1: how to. That's one of the things I've constantly told

1424
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 1: people is that you and Bill and Betsy Um really

1425
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 1: taught us how to help to teach us how to

1426
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 1: be professionals, help to teach us how to have still

1427
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 1: have fun. And it was it would often the lessons

1428
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 1: you were teaching as Alan often mirrored in the lessons

1429
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 1: that you taught us on the set. So I love

1430
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:48,599
Speaker 1: you and I'm just so glad that you were there

1431
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 1: for all of this. Bill. Bill is our next podcast guest.

1432
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:57,639
Speaker 1: He is going to be joining us for episode number

1433
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 1: one oh three, Father Knows Less Us it sounds like

1434
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 1: another Yeah, So Bill and Bonnie will be joining us

1435
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 1: for episode one oh three Father Knows Less. Also a

1436
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 1: special thank you to Kyle from Typhoon, who is responsible

1437
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 1: for our wonderful Pod meets World theme song. Yeah. Kyle

1438
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 1: Morton of the band Typhoon, who I've been friends with

1439
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 1: for ten years at this point. He played at your

1440
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 1: wedding where I met him. It's a long story, but yeah,

1441
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 1: he's incredible. He's a musical genius and directed a music video.

1442
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 1: I directed a music video for them last year, very insane,

1443
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:39,799
Speaker 1: and his writing is just next level both lyrically insane,

1444
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 1: but I also musically he's incredible and has written stuff

1445
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 1: for me before, and I was like, Hey, could you

1446
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 1: possibly come up with something for our podcast, and he

1447
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 1: did it in like two days. When we started talking

1448
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 1: about what we wanted for a theme, song writer immediately

1449
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 1: had a great just a bunch of ideas and he

1450
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 1: was like, I think we could do this and it

1451
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 1: could be kind of weird and reminiscent in Nostalgic and

1452
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 1: Dalla La. He was like, I'm I'm gonna see if

1453
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,679
Speaker 1: Kyle wants to do it, and then uh, he turned

1454
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 1: that around for us in less than twenty four hours.

1455
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 1: It was also like right, or what that's a very

1456
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 1: jumblie What could you possibly could all those things? How

1457
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 1: would somebody put that in a song? And then and

1458
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: then like two days there was like, oh, that's exactly what. Right.

1459
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 1: It's funny because I played it for you know, a

1460
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: couple of people and I was like, what do you

1461
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 1: what does this make you think of? Like not telling

1462
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 1: them what the context what I said. Some of the

1463
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 1: answers I got were makes me think of the nineties,

1464
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 1: which I was like really, And then another person was like,

1465
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Speaker 1: it has this like early two thousand's sort of filtered sound,

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Speaker 1: like something that is coming. I was like, that's it,

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Speaker 1: that's what. Yeah. Because I Basically I told Kyle was like,

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Speaker 1: could it sound like we're listening to the past coming

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Speaker 1: into the present, like a theme song from the past

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Speaker 1: coming into the present, and he really Thank you to

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Speaker 1: Kyle Morton of Film for our theme song. Be sure

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Speaker 1: to join us on Instagram Pod Meets World Show and

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Speaker 1: also send us your emails, send us your questions, your thoughts,

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Speaker 1: feedback on the show. What you want to hear more of,

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Speaker 1: what you want to hear less of? All right, final,

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Speaker 1: shut up. It's ad meets World Show at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, next week Bill Daniels episode number one oh three,

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Speaker 1: father knows less. We'll see you there. Um oh, I

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Speaker 1: get to say this time, don't night It's your turn

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Speaker 1: one more Thanks to Rusty, We love you all, pod dismissed.

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Speaker 1: Pod Meets World is an I heeart podcast produced and

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Speaker 1: hosted by Daniel Fisher, wilfredel and writer Strong Executive producers

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Speaker 1: Jensen Carp and Amy Sugarman, Executive in charge of production,

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Speaker 1: Danielle Romo, producer and editor, Tara Sudbach, producer The Rain

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Speaker 1: Verruez engineer and Boy Meets World super fan Easton Allen.

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Speaker 1: Our theme song is by Kyle Morton of Typhoon. Follow

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Speaker 1: us on Instagram at Pod meets World Show, or email

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Speaker 1: us at Pod Meets World Show at gmail dot com.