WEBVTT - Deafening Tones 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.360 Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller 0:00:02.400 --> 0:00:06.800 Show weekdays at two a m. Eastern eleven pm Pacific boom. 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:11.280 If you thought four hours a day, minutes a week 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:14.800 was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants of 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:18.479 the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He treats 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:21.360 crackheads in the Ghetto Cutter the same as the rich 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:25.400 pill poppers in the penthouse. The clearing House of Hot 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:29.160 takes break free for something special. The Fifth Hour with 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:33.879 Ben Maller starts right now, and we are in the 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:39.160 air everywhere coast the coast, actually there's no coast to coast, 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:43.480 it's border bordering beyond. As we alluviate the weekend away, 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:48.640 the weekend does begin. This the Friday Podcast, a guest 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:52.559 free podcast that David Gascon, who's in here, decided, you know, 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:56.640 we do not need any kind of person to talk to. 0:00:57.400 --> 0:01:00.240 Usually on Fridays we bring somebody in here, Fred of ours. 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:02.320 I guess we ran out of friends apparently, But we 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:05.720 do this podcast eight days a week, as we said, 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:08.800 in four hours or not enough. So guest Con as 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:13.959 the executive producer of the Fifth Hour Podcast. So what's 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:17.160 the kind of walking me through the mindset here because 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:20.080 we know that content is king, just like Vince McMahon, right, 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:23.280 that's the key. W W E stas content is king, 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:26.880 right and all that stuff. So, uh, was this a 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:30.600 bold calculated decision by you to say, you know, we've 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:33.640 had a fair decent run of people that have come 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:35.800 in here, so no more you need to put your 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:37.640 foot down and say that's it. No, I don't think 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:39.559 it was that. I just think it was an opportunity 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:42.720 for us to, uh to mix up our our location 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:45.560 like a good picture, right, you want to go inside 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:48.920 and out, up and down the zone and then change 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:51.280 speeds a little bit. And I think we can do that, 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:56.480 especially since uh we got some wild times and wild times. 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:58.120 I don't know what you're talking about. It's just been 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:00.280 more than the same. Every day is the same, Some 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:03.680 crazy crap happens. The next day, another crazy thing happens. 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:05.880 Half the people think they're right, the other half think 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:10.520 they're right. Rince wash, repeat, but next But unlike in 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:13.960 our lifetimes, this is the first time that we've experienced 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:18.040 sports being canceled because athletes are canceling this. That's so 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:21.480 that's something March. I've seen sports canceled twice this year. 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.519 Let them lets I don't want to play, I'll go. 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:28.000 I don't care. Don't play. It doesn't affect my life 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:30.600 at all. In fact, I was telling I was telling 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:34.200 you or somebody else here that when I prepare for 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:35.919 the show and I'm getting ready, I'm looking for things 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:39.079 to talk about. I usually we I want to watch 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.400 the games and see if anything happens there that I 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:44.120 feel like it's, you know, good talker on radio. But 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.200 now if there's no games, I can get to put 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:50.000 the baby to bed early. I'm good. I mean that 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:53.880 makes my life actually easier, so I will actually have 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:57.200 an easier time preparing for my job if they don't play. 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:00.640 It's just fascinating a network. And I need you to 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:03.760 explain this to me because and you know this being 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:06.280 in a press box a Major League Baseball games, is 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:11.000 that typically sports writers, when they write a story on 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:14.040 the game of the day that they're at, they don't 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:17.040 write when the game ends. They're writing it inning by 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:20.520 inning or happening by happening, and then they make their 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.880 conclusions and their final assessments and their final judgments after 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:27.600 non innings is played. Why are we not doing that 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:31.080 when it comes to the social unrest that we're having 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:35.600 in today's world, like, why are we having jump to 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:40.440 conclusion before information, before all the events, before all the 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:46.720 questions are even answered, Because that is good for the ratings, 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:49.880 it's good for social media. You know. The answer I 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:57.120 don't multibillion dollar industries and teams that are ultimately gold 0:03:57.200 --> 0:04:00.360 number one is to take care of yourself and the 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.320 bottom line. But in there, see, they have this neurosis 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:06.440 and professional sports where they think that this is the 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:11.119 path to salvation that they by by doing these actions 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:14.200 here and preaching because there's one thing I know you 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:17.080 want when you go watch a game, is you want 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:19.920 to be preached to and be told that you're racist 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:22.280 or you don't know what you know, you know what's 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:25.000 going on. So, uh, these these leaks and they know 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:30.200 they they have been mesmerized. My theory is they've been 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:33.240 mesmerized first of all by social media, which, as we 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:37.520 have talked about many times, is not reality, right, it's 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:41.000 not reality. It's the matrix. But it's so almighty and 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:44.680 all powerful in the eyes of these knitwits in positions 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:48.280 of power and sports that they think that is the 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:51.960 barometer and as we talked about several months ago, that 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:55.000 study that came out this year from I think it 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:59.840 was Pew that said that about ten of people on 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:03.640 UH like a platform like Twitter, are responsible for eight 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:08.640 of the content created by UH the adults in the 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:10.480 U s. It's a very small percentage of people that 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:12.919 are actually out there. So but that doesn't matter because 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.480 the people that run these sports leagues and the pr people, 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:18.560 UH My theory is they see the social media reaction, 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:21.000 what's trading was not trending, and they shut it down. 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:23.760 People just like this week the other day, the hockey 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:26.680 played in basketball didn't play, and I, you know, I 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:28.560 I liked it. I was watching the Bruins game. They 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:32.600 got smoked, they got pig roasted by the It was 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:35.479 like Hawaiian luau by the Tampa Bay Lightning, and I 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:36.960 was like, wow, it's good to watch a game. These 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.360 guys actually showed up to work. And then the mob 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:43.400 on social media, I can't believe you played? How dare you? 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:46.599 And so then, of course, because they reacted to the 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:50.680 mob and thinking that there are you know, millions of 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:54.560 people outraged that the hockey league was playing. Of course 0:05:54.760 --> 0:06:00.680 it's not true, and so they genuflected to the online mob. 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:02.640 It is like the matrix, do you take the red 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:07.719 pill or the blue pill pill? And just keeps going up. 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:10.320 But that's that's why they're worried about social media cloud. 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:13.760 They think they're right. The great thing about this and 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:16.400 if you're if you're someone's like sitting on the outside, 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.720 you're outside the ring and you're watching, You're like, wow, 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:22.440 you're you're grading the fight, and you're like, wait a minute. Here, 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:26.039 these guys think they're winning the fight and they're actually 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:30.160 losing the fight, and they're not bright enough to figure 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:33.560 out that that's not reality. And and the reason I 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:35.880 say that, look at the ratings here, which is the 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:39.000 ultimate report card, the health check right the thermometer on 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:40.880 to see if you you've got an illness or something 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:43.560 like that. And it's not going well. The ratings are 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:47.560 continue to climb. The NBA's down since twelve is down, 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:50.880 but just this year, since they came back and we 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:53.440 were talking, oh man, my sports come back. Everyone's gonna 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:55.960 be watching. I mean, this is gonna be amazing, right. 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:59.919 People are so desperate for content. Uh, and we're mistaken. 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.640 We were mistaken. It's incorec that's incorrect. I mean people 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:07.560 have figured out, you know, they figured out they don't 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:09.840 need it, or those that love it are like, I'm 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:13.200 not gonna watch it because I don't need the you know, 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:20.280 repercussions of the social activists that have hijacked American sport. 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:23.040 And the other thing about this guest guy, I'm getting 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.640 long winded here. I'm doing like a monologue all of 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:29.160 a sudden, but it's I'm just rambling. But here's the thing, Like, 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:32.440 how do you walk out of this? Like what's at 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:34.680 some point there will be an epiphany, there will be 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:38.560 a come to Jesus moment, and the people that run 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.360 sports gonna they're gonna crunch the numbers that being counters 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:45.320 will get in and they will realize, holy fuck, what 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:48.280 have we done? And then how do you get out 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:51.400 of it? Like do you welcome back to military and 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:53.760 the police and hugging is all? We were just kidding 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:57.040 about all that, and but everything is good now, Like 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:01.240 they're gonna have to be wide ranging and you know, 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:04.880 multifaceted changes. They're gonna have to because it because of 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:07.760 the damage that's being done right now in the landscape 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:11.320 of professional and college sports. To some degree awesome, but 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:13.760 mostly professional. You know what this makes me think of, 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:17.160 to use an analogy, is it makes me think of 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:20.040 of a gambler who's not really in tune with how 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:23.520 to gamble or how to pick teams that just tails 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:28.600 someone blindly. Because I do think some positives have come 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.680 out of this here and stuff in terms of I 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:36.240 think it was the Cults on Thursday registered every one 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:38.800 on their team to vote. So I think those things 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:41.240 are great. I think those things are important because obviously, 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:45.240 when you don't have the majority of people in the 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:49.720 United States voting in your general elections and your local elections, 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:52.840 like that's a problem because, like you said, we've talked 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:54.920 about this numerous times, like here in California, we got 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:58.000 idiots that are voting to increase our taxes on gas, 0:08:58.040 --> 0:08:59.920 Like what the fund is wrong with people? But I've 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:04.160 that's important. I think obviously it's important to get people involved. Well, 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:07.120 but here's the thing on that even that is disingenuous. 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:11.000 And see that's what that is, people's one thing. But 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.680 the problem is is that now you're gonna have them 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:18.959 tail a political alliance just because the way No, I 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.440 mean that, that's why you know, I take all this 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:23.839 with a grand sault. Yeah, you know, voting is great. 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:26.960 Everyone should vote. It's wonderful. You should do it right, 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:29.760 you know whatever we have a right to. You can't 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:31.640 vote in every country and all that. I totally get 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:34.840 you should vote, But it's disingenuous because when I see 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.240 vote on the back of an NBA jersey, they're not 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:39.920 They don't want you to vote for Donald Trump. They 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:43.160 want you to vote for Joe Biden. They and they assume, See, 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:46.480 this is the problem I had with it. They assume 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:49.920 that this group think this kool aid think. If they 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:52.360 tell people their fan based to vote, that they're just 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:56.600 automatically gonna be blind sheep and lemmings and vote for 0:09:56.720 --> 0:10:00.120 who they want to vote for. So it's implo II 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:02.680 that they get people to vote that no one would 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:05.520 possibly vote for Donald Trump. It's pretty that part of it. 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:09.120 I find amusing that they think, and maybe they're right. 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.240 Maybe they're right. People are just dumb. And you know, 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:13.600 it's as far as the gambling thing you were talking about, 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.200 it's the term is a square. That's what they call 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:18.880 in the gambling right in gambling world in Vegas. If 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:22.800 you're a square, you're average. You're unsophisticated, and you pretty 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:27.079 much make your decisions based on you're easily influenced by 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:32.200 manipulation by the media or celebrities who tell you something, Uh, 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.120 you know, I'm gonna win this fight. Well he said 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:36.040 he's gonna win the fight. I'm gonna better. Or you 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:39.440 have a hunch, better, better, bunch, right, that kind of thing. 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:46.120 And so the the bookmaker has the huge advantage. And 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:50.040 and they love the square. They love the square because 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:52.920 that's who you make your money on when you're running 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:57.320 a sports book. Is the average, the low information a 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:00.120 sports fan. But you know, they don't want if you're 0:10:59.920 --> 0:11:03.040 a sharp and you actually have the information. They hate 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:06.040 people like that that actually have have the information and 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:08.880 get get all the you know, the latest info and 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.719 are fully educated and all. They don't like that. That's 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:14.000 because that's real power. And that's the problem I have 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:16.520 is that you can you can register as many people 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.520 as you like, and I think that's really important. But 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:20.440 the other thing is that if you want to take 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:23.800 all of this an additional step forward is that not 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:27.080 only the people obviously that are in this country that 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:29.760 aren't working at the elite level like a professional athlete. 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:33.560 But you gotta get the professional athletes educated too. And 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:35.600 that's the other thing that's that's lost in all of 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:38.360 this is that you can talk about, you know, voting 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.120 for for one political party or another. You can vote 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:44.200 for a governor, you can vote for a mayor, you 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:47.360 can vote for a city councilman. But if you have 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:50.480 no idea what's going on, and you're just blinding like 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:54.240 going political alliance like right down red or right down blue, 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:58.680 then and you're doing everybody a disservice. And it's sucking 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:01.640 brutal because yeah, I mean, how many of these guys 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:04.960 are are activated in that kind of a realm or 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:07.800 or even educated that kind of capacity either, you know, 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:10.800 I mean, you don't get guys that are are going 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:14.120 to Duke and Notre Dame and all these major universities 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:18.000 of Stanford to cal your USC that are like this 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:20.040 on on this level. You know, like the reality is 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:23.200 these guys have spent a year maybe two years in 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:27.800 college and what are they doing. They're taking electives? You know. Well, 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:30.240 ab I mean the other thing about that, see, that's 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:35.440 always the Pandora's box, right, because get educated. Well, half 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.640 the people think if you're voting one way, you're educated. 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:39.440 The other half think, if you vote this way, you're educated. 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.599 You know what he's like, what has educated me? And 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:43.079 it means you vote for who I want you to 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:46.800 vote for. You know, it's is which is? But But 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.520 I mean, the thing about the manipulation is fascinating because 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:51.760 it really just depends, I guess, on what you watch. 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:58.160 I have a family member who watches CNN NonStop, and uh, 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:01.160 you know I I'll go over or sometimes in the 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:04.480 It's on all the time, and they react to everything, 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.080 and I'm I just have to bite my tongue because 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:10.199 I say, hey, there's a video on on the Internet 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:12.600 that disproves what it was just said there on Twitter. 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:14.480 I saw it the other day. I can't. You can't 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:19.360 say that because they're they're totally brainwashed by what they're watching, 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:25.440 the mesmerizing power of the boob tube. It's weird, and 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:28.320 I don't know, I'm I'm. I feel like there's a 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.080 lot of people, even people that we work with, are 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:34.040 pretty much right down the middle. Like I, I don't 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.560 vote on one alliance or the other. I kind of 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:39.960 look at both ends of the spectrum and I go 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:42.280 with what's best for me and then what's best for 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:45.000 the community at the time. But yeah, I'm not stuck 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:48.240 and I'm not aligned to anybody because the reality is 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:51.280 these guys are all in it for themselves. And we 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:54.240 have people that go into these political offices that are 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:57.520 civil servants and then they come out wealthy as shit. 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:02.120 It's like, yeah, that is the easiest path. That you 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:04.280 don't make a lot as a politician, but you make 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:06.760 your money once you're done in politics. Although I think 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:09.120 some of these people, how long has Nancy Pelosi been 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:14.120 in um DC politics? Yeah, so she must be making 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:18.240 money as she's doing politics. And what was the uh 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:19.680 I think we might have talked about it here. What 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.040 was the story? Somewhere along the way, there was a 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:27.280 guy that was, uh, like a secret service guy that 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:31.120 flew around with the vice president. Remember this story. I 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:33.520 don't know if I talked about it with you where 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:35.880 I heard it, but there's a legendary story. This guy 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:39.320 was like a secret service guy protecting either the vice 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:45.920 president or some high ranking senators, and he just listened 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.520 on the plane, the private planes when they were flying 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:51.680 around and they would discuss, you know, hey, we're gonna 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:56.760 build this big, massive you know, shopping center here, which 0:14:56.760 --> 0:15:00.000 will increase property values in this kind of the chef 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.640 old part of town. You know, so and so we're 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:05.520 gonna give approval on that. And so he then took 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:10.000 that information and would invest and became like super wealthy 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:14.000 based on just listening to politicians discussed what they were 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:16.920 planning on doing, just having to have you know, his 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:19.400 ears open on the plane, because that's how that's how 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:21.800 much influence you as far as the economy is concerned, 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:26.640 and they have on this. Yeah, insider trading right now? Yeah, exactly, exactly, 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:29.680 just but now here's is it insider trading if it 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.040 wasn't directed to you and you're stepping over here, you know, 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:35.520 that's the whole. Yeah, I don't know. But see going 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:39.040 back to to your original question about about guests as 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:41.480 I think, yes, yes, no, I don't believe. I think 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:43.640 I like having people. I like to hang out. We 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:46.360 do the electric boogaloo and we hang out. We talked 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:48.600 for thirty minutes. I think that's fun. I loved having 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:51.960 all our my old radio friends like hacks On, Tony 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:55.040 Bruno and Mike North and Lee and all these people 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:57.760 come in here. I love that. Yeah, I guess I've 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:00.640 run out Jerry Callahan, I've run out of radio friends apparently, 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:02.400 although I did have somebody that I was thinking about 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.280 getting on. But I think you can get a big 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.440 name in here guests, gut you know, get a big 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:09.920 podcast number. We get we get a really big name 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:11.960 in here. The downloads to go through the roof man, 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:14.680 because a lot of people are podcast snobs and only 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:18.080 listen to interviews and they don't want to hear chatter. 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:20.240 They don't want to hear conversation like this, but they 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.960 want they do the hustle if they see a big 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:26.560 name on a podcast. But well, if that was the case, 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:28.960 then why don't you have guests on your on your 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:34.040 radio show Money through Friday? Because I was told early 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:38.240 on the the time and to call their driven show 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:41.960 and as a programmer, director told me so, Pett, the 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:45.840 reason I hired you is because you've you can do 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:49.000 a show. You don't need guests. That's a crutch. I 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:52.200 was like, all right, all right, whatever you say, and 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.080 uh yeah, and I don't don't give you. I don't. 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:59.760 I think guests are usually pretty bad. But I think 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:01.680 on the podcast, I like once a week, I think 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:03.760 it's all right, and people I like or whatever, I 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.919 think it's a yeah. But but oftentimes my my problem, 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:08.840 this was my issue when I did day parts, like 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:13.000 during the day with guests, is I felt like a 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:16.399 lot of them were so guarded, like the people that 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:18.920 worked in sports, because they didn't want to say anything 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:20.919 to upset anyone that it was just a waste of 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:25.040 time you'd ask a question. I remember, for example, in 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:27.399 the early days of Fox Sports Radio, I think it 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:31.080 was about five years in, maybe a little later than that. Uh, 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:35.280 we had Mike Montgomery on former yeah, but he was 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:37.520 coaching the Golden State Warriors at the time and not 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:41.040 we had him every week. And not only was Mike 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:47.600 Montgomery on, he was terrible because the Warriors sucked, and 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:49.920 you know, we were on a big station in San 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:53.199 Francisco at the time and that was the Mike Montgomery 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:56.000 Show to get NBA information. But he didn't want to 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.760 say anything because you know, you don't want to get 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:00.840 in trouble, and the team was terrible, so she couldn't 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:03.480 talk about the team. So it just became an exercise 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:06.160 in futility. Now, one guy that was really good, although 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:10.800 not intentionally good, was Randy Moss. When Randy Moss played 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:13.720 for the Raiders, he had a deal with Fox Sports Radio. 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.520 He did not talk to any other media the Randy 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:18.720 Moss Show, which was on Chris Meyers Show, and I 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:21.359 happened to be on that show for a stretch, and 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:25.040 so we had Randy Moss on every week, and he 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:27.879 he boycotted the media in the Bay Area. He was 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:30.560 upset with some things that had been written, so he 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:33.359 wouldn't talk to any of the local reporters in in 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:35.719 the Bay Area, in San Francisco and all that, right, 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:38.040 So the only place he would talk was our show. 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:42.439 And I figured out after a couple of weeks with 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:46.359 Randy that he and we knew he wasn't happy. But 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:48.879 if you asked him kind of a leading question, he 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:53.199 would take de bait like, hey, you know, Randy, at 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:56.239 the time, Michael vick was the big star for the Falcons, right, 0:18:57.000 --> 0:19:00.200 and they hey, Randy, you know you know what thinking 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:03.120 about Michael Vick. You know, the Falcon's possibly going down, 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:05.879 And he would he would he would answer, and that 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:08.600 would create headlines because he would say, I love to 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:13.520 play with Michael VICKO. So that's that kind of thing. Well, 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:17.960 now that we're here, yes, we're here all united. What 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:21.600 brings us together? The podcast, that's what brings us together. 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:25.480 Amazing audio content. We do the hokey pokey. You put 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:27.840 your right foot in, you take your right foot out, 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.359 you put your right foot in, you shake it all about, 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:32.440 you do the hokey poke Are you doing the hokey pokey? 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:34.680 And you turn yourself around. That's what it's all about. 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:35.840 When I was a kid, I used to go to 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:41.520 the the local skating rink and they with my cousins 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:45.840 before they moved away the Isoplex and no I lived 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:48.000 in Orange. I live in the OC behind the Orange Curtain. 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:51.160 But I remember they used to do the hokey poke 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:52.720 and I was a fat kid, and I didn't really 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:54.480 know how to skate that well, so I'd fall down 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:56.359 all the time and it was a big nightmare. So 0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:58.520 always dreaded when they said it's we're gonna do the 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:02.199 hokey pokey. I always I tried to like waddle and 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:04.280 skate away so I wouldn't have to be out on 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:06.399 the rink when they were doing that, because I embarrassed myself. 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:10.080 I want to embarrass myself, fat kid falling down trying 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:11.679 to put his right foot out and I couldn't even 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:13.439 stay in on my left foot. So what are you 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:16.520 doing well? And now several years later and three hundred 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:20.199 pounds shed, you can do that now, yes, and not 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:22.760 eating and having you send me food porn while I'm 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:26.320 not eating. So it's quite a friend over there. What 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:28.320 were you getting to? You said, now that we're here, 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:30.480 I interrupted you for the hokey pot No, it was 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:33.399 a good segue because you mentioning our youth. And uh, 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:35.639 you know, obviously we're not having a guest on today. 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:37.680 But I figured I talked to you about something that 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:40.399 happened to me. Oh, make it at all about you. 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:43.800 West of the four or five is your box? I said, 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:45.439 west of the four or five, So if you have 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:48.360 your Bingo card out, check the box. No, it's I've 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:50.280 not brought that up at all. By the way, I 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:53.440 must acknowledge the fact that I heard a dirty rumor 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:57.600 that you actually drove your lazy ass into work earlier 0:20:57.600 --> 0:21:01.800 this week. Yes, yes, ship, Yes, I did. I came 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:07.399 in there uh air conditioning, yes, yes, yes, So let 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:10.880 me explain what happened. So, uh, you know, I try 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:15.719 to I believe in the David Letterman philosophy David Letterman. 0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:18.439 I was in line for Letterman's audience a couple of 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:21.480 times in uh in New York back you know, back 0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:24.120 in the day before he became like Santa Claus when 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:25.680