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Speaker 1: I am all in, kiss you, I am all in

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Speaker 1: with Scott Patterson and I Hurt Radio podcast. Hey everybody,

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Speaker 1: Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast. I heard Radio

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Speaker 1: one eleven Productions. We have got very special guest. Tricia

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Speaker 1: O'Kelly played Nicole leahy Luke's sort of girlfriend season three. Um,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna be talking to her about all kinds

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Speaker 1: of things are experience on the show. Um. She's had

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Speaker 1: quite a career. Uh. She starting in Chicago. She appaired

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Speaker 1: newrous television commercials, McDonald's Budweiser series, Graduated You, University of Wisconsin, Madison. Um,

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Speaker 1: she's done a ton of things in the business. Two

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Speaker 1: and a Half, Men's c S, I Frasier, Everybody Loves Raymond,

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Speaker 1: Malcolm in the Middle, all kinds of things. Let's bring

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Speaker 1: her in Tris Show, Kelly and my old friend Mr.

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Speaker 1: She's terrific here she comes. Hi. How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: It's up sunshine? You remember me? How are you? I'm good.

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Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm up in. Uh, I'm in Canada doing

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Speaker 1: a I'm doing a series up here. So I'm yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm up here. Well, and where are you? Are you

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Speaker 1: in California in Loca Lake, I'm like away from where

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Speaker 1: we met. Oh my goodness, you're right there by water

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Speaker 1: Brook here, I'm right here. Yeah. Oh man. So what's

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Speaker 1: the show Sullivan's Crossing. Yeah. They there's a woman named

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Speaker 1: Robin Carr who wrote a bunch of novels. She's been

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Speaker 1: writing best selling New York Times author since this eden,

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Speaker 1: and so Virgin River is based on her books, and

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Speaker 1: that's a big hit. So now they're doing Sullivan's Crossing

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Speaker 1: because those are very popular books in her in her library,

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Speaker 1: and so now they're doing another show because they, you know,

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Speaker 1: they love the success of Virgin Rivers's. Yeah. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean it's it's it's hard being away from the family,

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Speaker 1: but it's temporary and you knowstand yeah. You always good

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Speaker 1: to work, right, you know, the economy going in the dumper,

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Speaker 1: it's always good to have a job. How old are

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Speaker 1: your kids, Well, I have I have a son who

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Speaker 1: just turned eight, so it's very yeah, I know, and

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Speaker 1: I want to be with him. And it's tough and

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Speaker 1: it's really hard. And I watched videos. I talked to

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Speaker 1: them three times a day. Thank God for that. You

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Speaker 1: you have kids, I do. I have two girls. Wo

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Speaker 1: and let's see, Avery is almost fourteen and Charlie is

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Speaker 1: almost welve. I'm divorced, so I only get them every

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Speaker 1: other week, and but I them all day every day

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Speaker 1: when they're with your dad, and you know, I missed them.

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Speaker 1: It's horrible, even though they're breaking at the reed and

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Speaker 1: you know, mm hmmm mm hmmm. Yeah. Well let's talk

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Speaker 1: about um, your turn on this classic show and this

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Speaker 1: particular episode. I gotta tell you this, Uh, this episode fourteen,

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Speaker 1: season three just slaved me. And this is where we

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Speaker 1: go out on our first date? Yes, I do remember that.

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Speaker 1: Is it the episode that you asked me out on

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Speaker 1: the first date? It was that? No, this is where

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Speaker 1: we go out on the first date, says when we

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Speaker 1: go out on the first day. Yes, yes, I let

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Speaker 1: you use your cell phone and a diner and lorelizes

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Speaker 1: flipping out. That's all funny stuff. Um so what what? So?

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Speaker 1: I have a bunch of questions here that the fans

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Speaker 1: What do you remember about your first days on the

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Speaker 1: set filming these scenes? Yeah? Well I had just come

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Speaker 1: off a see it. Well. Now, my show series was

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Speaker 1: audition for Gilmo Girls, and I had to have red

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Speaker 1: didn't have time to like change it back audition for

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Speaker 1: like a year or however, right right, right, So my

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Speaker 1: April is you think April? I have not really heard

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Speaker 1: very powerful episode for me. Um. Um. So what did

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Speaker 1: I I like, I said, I I loved her character

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Speaker 1: great question? Why? Why? Probably you were you were totally

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