WEBVTT - The Death Slug [6]

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the MLK Tapes, a production of I Heart

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<v Speaker 1>Radio and Tenderfoot TV. The views and opinions expressed in

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast are solely those of the podcast author or

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<v Speaker 1>individuals participating in the podcast, and do not represent those

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<v Speaker 1>of I Heart Media, Tenderfoot TV, or their employees. Listener

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<v Speaker 1>discretion is advised to understand the context of this killing.

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<v Speaker 1>You should understand that Emmett Till, Medgar Evers, for civil

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<v Speaker 1>rights workers who were buried in the levee, We're all

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<v Speaker 1>slain within about fifty or sixty miles of Memphis. Memphis

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<v Speaker 1>as an interesting reputation of being the first degree murder

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<v Speaker 1>capital of America. And in that context we're not talking

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<v Speaker 1>about street crime but organized land hits. So that explains

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<v Speaker 1>why this. If you were gonna kill somebody, Memphis was

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<v Speaker 1>the place to do it, and you pull off the killing,

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<v Speaker 1>and meanwhile, some other folks have done the skull duggery

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<v Speaker 1>and got some SAPs set up to take the dive

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty years later argue about who did what I

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<v Speaker 1>called the Union Hall. I said, a matter of life

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<v Speaker 1>and death. I said, I think these people are planning

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<v Speaker 1>to kill Dr King. The authorities were parade. Oh, we

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<v Speaker 1>found a gun that James ol Ray bought in Birmingham

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<v Speaker 1>that killed Dr King. Except it wasn't the gun that

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<v Speaker 1>killed Dr King. James Lay was upon for the official

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<v Speaker 1>story from My Heart Radio intended for TV. The plan

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<v Speaker 1>was to get King to the city because they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>it handled. In Memphis were dead and in cat Hamon

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<v Speaker 1>and I have lived with it so long, my sion,

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<v Speaker 1>and they scared for me. The Lord told me to

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<v Speaker 1>not the word. I've been want to tell it all

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<v Speaker 1>my life on Bill Claybourn and this is the MLK tapes.

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<v Speaker 1>At the top of this episode, we heard Judge Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Brown speaking at AEEN symposium at Duquesne University marking the

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<v Speaker 1>fiftieth anniversary of the assassinations of Martin King and Robert Kennedy.

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Brown had just completed a fifteen year run as

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<v Speaker 1>a judge on a TV reality show, but before that

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<v Speaker 1>he had been a real judge in Tennessee and had

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<v Speaker 1>presided over the last attempt to get James Earl Ray

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<v Speaker 1>a trial. That case had been brought by Bill Pepper,

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<v Speaker 1>Ray's attorney at the time, and from the stage of

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<v Speaker 1>the same symposium, Pepper spoke about Judge Brown and those

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<v Speaker 1>events of some twenty years before. We were very pleased

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<v Speaker 1>to have Judge Brown on the bench because finally there

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<v Speaker 1>was an impartial object of and I might say courageous

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<v Speaker 1>man up there who was prepared to do what he

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<v Speaker 1>believed was right. No better expert on ballistics did we

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<v Speaker 1>find anywhere than Judge Brown. Judge Brown was indeed an

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<v Speaker 1>expert when it came to guns, and when he spoke

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<v Speaker 1>that day on the shooting of King, he focused on

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<v Speaker 1>race rifle. Was it really the murder weapon? But before

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<v Speaker 1>we get to forensics, the race of twist lands and

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<v Speaker 1>grooves and all that, let's hear what Brown had to

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<v Speaker 1>say about what it was like to be black in

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<v Speaker 1>Memphis in the bad old days. Joe Brown had a

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<v Speaker 1>unique perspective because he had not grown up in Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 1>He had come of age in sunny California, and after

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<v Speaker 1>law school at U c. L A. He accepted a

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<v Speaker 1>challenging legal fellowship in the nation's heartland. Joe Brown arrived

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<v Speaker 1>in Memphis in nineteen seventy three. He noticed the difference

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<v Speaker 1>right away. Appeared for one of the poverty law centers

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<v Speaker 1>I was working at with five clients at the local

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<v Speaker 1>juvenile court. The judge, who had a sixth grade education,

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<v Speaker 1>he dropped out of the sixth grade, thought I was

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<v Speaker 1>on his docket and he called me the inn words.

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<v Speaker 1>So we had at it. But that was the attitude.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've actually been in court rooms in front of

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<v Speaker 1>a jury and the judge used the in word to

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<v Speaker 1>the jury in describing um some of the defendants on trial.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not unusual now. I also happened to be

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<v Speaker 1>the first black prosecutor for the city in Memphis, and

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<v Speaker 1>one of the interesting, rather disgusting charges that I would

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<v Speaker 1>see on records when I would be asked to make

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<v Speaker 1>an offer on something was something like this reckless eyeballing

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<v Speaker 1>by a colored person. That's a quote on what the

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<v Speaker 1>charge was, colored person refusing to remove from sidewalk for

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<v Speaker 1>passage of white person. This was the interesting one, acting

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<v Speaker 1>too colored in public. So I would see these kind

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<v Speaker 1>of charges on people's rap sheets, and that was the atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 1>In the early nineteen seventies, you still had that thing

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<v Speaker 1>going on. And describing his shock at Landing and what

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<v Speaker 1>for him was the wild West, Judge Brown recalled a

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<v Speaker 1>particular evening in a Memphis courtroom. Well, we had this

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<v Speaker 1>old guy late eighties maybe early nineties, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>on the dockets. So I asked the judge if I

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<v Speaker 1>could advance the case since the arresting officer was coming

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<v Speaker 1>in that evening on a traffic matter. So the judge

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<v Speaker 1>gave me permission. I got the file jacket brought to

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<v Speaker 1>the courtroom and I'm standing around waiting for this case

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<v Speaker 1>to come up. When the back door the courtroom is

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<v Speaker 1>kicked in, and he was an old man. He had

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<v Speaker 1>his Model nineteen three fifty seven Smith up in the air,

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<v Speaker 1>and the many officers in the courtroom, instead of doing

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<v Speaker 1>what you think they do, they all dived under the

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<v Speaker 1>cover of the pews. So he walked in and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>who the devil? Et cetera, et ceter was cussing and

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<v Speaker 1>put his hands on my nigro. So nobody touched my

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<v Speaker 1>nigga's and my hunting animals but me. So he walks

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<v Speaker 1>up to the cop in question, grabs him by the collar,

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<v Speaker 1>puts the pistol to his head and said, I'll blow

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<v Speaker 1>your brains out. I kill you, your granty looking wife,

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<v Speaker 1>all your children, your livestock, and your hunting animals, if

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<v Speaker 1>you ever do this again? Who he walks over and

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<v Speaker 1>shut up. Robert, that was the judge's name. I used

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<v Speaker 1>to do your mama. You you maybe wanna mind it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about it. O. Judge said, Mr Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>whatnover is? He had the dock and I said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I th show those this this. So he walked out

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<v Speaker 1>of here. I said, why didn't nobody do what he thin?

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<v Speaker 1>He said, that's Jimmie Thompson. That's death in Carnie Brown

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know who Jimmy Thompson was, but during a recess

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<v Speaker 1>he was pulled aside by some old timer who tried

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<v Speaker 1>to fill him in. Turns out, Jimmie Thompson had at

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<v Speaker 1>one time been sheriff in Memphis for some sixteen years.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's old guys, let me tell you store about when

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<v Speaker 1>I was a young deputy with the sheriff departing. Before

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<v Speaker 1>I got on, the police departing said we was out

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<v Speaker 1>and you know we busted two good old of a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of good old boys and they were drunk. Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>Thompson pulled up in his V twelve packet automobile and

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<v Speaker 1>he stopped. He came on, say I know this man.

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<v Speaker 1>He's saying, none but scumb He said, who you? So

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<v Speaker 1>the guy told him, he said, you take care of

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<v Speaker 1>your wife and children. He said, well, yes, sir, I tried,

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<v Speaker 1>so you that's wrong to that right, Get on up

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<v Speaker 1>out of here. He says, I'm wondering what the Sheriff's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do. He pulls his revolver, I shoots the other

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<v Speaker 1>man in the head. Tways said, I told this scarm

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<v Speaker 1>he ain't on dirty up my jail. No more call

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<v Speaker 1>to meet wagon. So that was my first time meeting

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<v Speaker 1>to share a face to face. He said, Jimmy's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>kill forty five fifty people in his career. So when

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy pull out a gun, everybody diving for couple because

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<v Speaker 1>somebody likely to that. But you see, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>background in Memphis, Tennessee at this point in time. Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Brown would go on to be the first black prosecutor

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<v Speaker 1>in the city of Memphis, and after that he began

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<v Speaker 1>his own law practice. In he became a criminal court

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<v Speaker 1>judge in Shelby County, which includes Memphis, US In Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Pepper brought a lawsuit seeking to reopen the case against

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<v Speaker 1>James Earl Ray with that time had been imprisoned for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five years. The case landed in Judge Brown's courtroom,

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<v Speaker 1>a lucky break for Pepper and Ray, because Brown took

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<v Speaker 1>an active interest in the cases that came before him,

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<v Speaker 1>and I did a lot of trial work. And one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that I did was I helped train

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<v Speaker 1>the Capitol defense team for the Public Defender's Office. So

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<v Speaker 1>that wound up getting me involved in forty forty two

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<v Speaker 1>first degree murder cases. They're fascinating. One of the things

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<v Speaker 1>I learned from trying that kind of case is when

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<v Speaker 1>you get it, go to the scene, take a look

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<v Speaker 1>around and see if what you see on the ground

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<v Speaker 1>matches the theory. Well, one of the problems that came

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<v Speaker 1>out when I got the Ray case is that some

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<v Speaker 1>of the evidence, as far as I was concerned, did

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<v Speaker 1>not match the circumstances. First off, let's get a clarification

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<v Speaker 1>in here. The news media likes to put it out

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<v Speaker 1>James Earl Ray, the self confess killer of Dr Martin

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<v Speaker 1>Luther King. Well, that's an error. He never confessed. He

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<v Speaker 1>always denied it. This might seem like a strange thing

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<v Speaker 1>for Judge Brown to say, because in nineteen sixty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>James L. Ray did plead guilty to the explicit charge

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<v Speaker 1>of murdering Dr Martin Luther King. If you were with

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<v Speaker 1>us in episode four, you heard about the strange circumstances

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<v Speaker 1>under which that plea was made. And as we heard

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<v Speaker 1>from his first attorney, Art Haynes Jr. Ray always said

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<v Speaker 1>that he did not shoot King or anyone else that day.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is what Judge Brown is referring to the

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<v Speaker 1>little known fact that James Earl Ray always said he

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<v Speaker 1>did not shoot Martin Luther King. Of course, the authorities

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<v Speaker 1>said that he did, and their best evidence was not

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<v Speaker 1>the drunk who said he saw Ray running from the scene,

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<v Speaker 1>but the rifle found on the street, the one Ray

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<v Speaker 1>had bought just two days before. But Judge Brown was

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<v Speaker 1>far from convinced that this rifle raised rifle was the

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<v Speaker 1>actual murder weapon. The state claimed that its reasonable factual

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<v Speaker 1>basis was raised rifle a thirty odd six caliber Remingtons

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<v Speaker 1>seven sixty game Master, a pump rifle. The interesting thing

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<v Speaker 1>is is that that really went astray at that point

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<v Speaker 1>because the FBI claimed that they could not make a

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<v Speaker 1>ballistics match between Ray's rifle and the bullet they pulled

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<v Speaker 1>out of King's body. They said it was too distorted

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<v Speaker 1>to test that is the death's lug. However, examining the

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<v Speaker 1>evidence and the evidence room, it most certainly was not there.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a big bruga about me ordering the rifle reachsted.

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<v Speaker 1>In most cases, when you test fire a gun to

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<v Speaker 1>see if it's the weapon used in a particular murder,

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<v Speaker 1>you're creating a bullet that can be compared to the

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<v Speaker 1>death slug. If the markings on the two bullets are

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect match, you have determined that this gun fired

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<v Speaker 1>the fatal shot to the exclusion of all other guns

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<v Speaker 1>in the universe. Very often the match is less than perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>In this case, if the class characteristics are the same,

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<v Speaker 1>like the caliber bullet, you have determined that the weapon

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<v Speaker 1>tested could have fired the bullet, and that's the best

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI could do. In essence, King was killed with

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty caliber bullet, and raised rifle could fire a

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<v Speaker 1>thirty caliber bullet. So what did Judge Brown discover about

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<v Speaker 1>the rifle and the bullet when this case landed in

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<v Speaker 1>his courtroom? Recognize thats the seven sixty game master and

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<v Speaker 1>evidence in this case? Did you have a cadianum to

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<v Speaker 1>consider this weapon as a murder weapon in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>some degree of debt and careful consideration. I did so.

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<v Speaker 1>And when was that? That was during the course of

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<v Speaker 1>proceedings brought by the lady James or A Ray and

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<v Speaker 1>what is known as the post conviction relief proceedings to

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<v Speaker 1>challenge his inviction. You're listening to Judge Joe Brown testify

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<v Speaker 1>at the civil trial. Brown a few years earlier had

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<v Speaker 1>presided over the lawsuits seeking to reopen the case against

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<v Speaker 1>James Earl Ray. The man asking the questions is Bill Pepper,

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<v Speaker 1>who at the civil trial is representing the King family. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Brown, how long did you pres over those sin

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to say about three years. It all sort

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<v Speaker 1>of shifts into a blur that got in my courtroom.

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<v Speaker 1>There was at that time a set of laws and

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<v Speaker 1>cases that have been decided that basically caused me to

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<v Speaker 1>deny the petition of James or a Raid. So what

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<v Speaker 1>I've ordered was that the petition would be denied, but

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<v Speaker 1>I will allow the petitioner to put on what is

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<v Speaker 1>known as a proper of proof. In other words, if

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<v Speaker 1>he will allowed to present this evidence, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>it would show. So on appellate court could determine whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not the law need to be needed to be refused. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>in any event, I ordered that the rifle will be retested.

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<v Speaker 1>It went to the Port of Criminal Appeals who went

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<v Speaker 1>along to the prosecutorial side of things and declined to

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<v Speaker 1>allow that rifle to be retested. And issue of state

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<v Speaker 1>the blue that Judge Brown just mentioned has to do

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<v Speaker 1>with the fact that the rate case in his court

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<v Speaker 1>dragged on for the better part of three years to nine.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a legal battle over whether Ray would have

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<v Speaker 1>the right to present evidence that might overturn his conviction,

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<v Speaker 1>even though the statute of limitations for doing such a

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<v Speaker 1>thing had long ago run out. There were orders, stays, appeals,

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<v Speaker 1>changes in state law, more stays. Most of the time

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<v Speaker 1>was spent waiting around for a ruling on some appeal

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<v Speaker 1>of a ruling made in Judge Brown's court. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a frustrating, messy affair that defies any simple description, but

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<v Speaker 1>we will touch on some of the important points. As

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Brown said, the Court of Appeals initially prevented him

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<v Speaker 1>from ordering a test firing of the rifle, but it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't prevent him from going through the case files. Sometime

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<v Speaker 1>in ninety six, he had the death slug fragments put

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<v Speaker 1>under a high powered electron microscope. When he did this,

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<v Speaker 1>sure enough, the rifling had a right hand twist, just

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<v Speaker 1>as the FBI said. But as he told the court

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<v Speaker 1>that day, there was something else, something that required a

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<v Speaker 1>little high school trigonometry. It appears that the death slugged

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<v Speaker 1>it was taken out of King's body, was fired from

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<v Speaker 1>a rifle that had a rate of rifling twist of

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<v Speaker 1>one turn in every eleven and a quarter inches. Raised rifle,

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<v Speaker 1>for those who are interested, had a rate of rifling

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<v Speaker 1>twist of one turn in ten inches. If you've got

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<v Speaker 1>an eleven and a quarter inch rate of rifling twist,

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking custom barrel and James Drew Ray I assure

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<v Speaker 1>you had no access to anybody making custom barrels at

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<v Speaker 1>that time. If Judge Brown's calculations are correct, and you

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<v Speaker 1>could get the case back in court, it would go

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<v Speaker 1>a long way to proving that raised rifle was not

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<v Speaker 1>the murder weapon. More certain still, Judge Brown's poking around

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<v Speaker 1>like that was beginning to make people uncomfortable. Most judges

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<v Speaker 1>don't use microscopes to look at bullets. Most judges don't

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<v Speaker 1>think in terms of metallurgy or rates of twist, but

0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Judge Brown did, and the pressure to relieve him of

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<v Speaker 1>his duties increased, and strange things were starting to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Brown told me of several incidents. In one ninety seven,

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<v Speaker 1>his house was invaded by men wearing ski masks. He

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<v Speaker 1>had gotten home late, fallen asleep at the kitchen table,

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<v Speaker 1>and then woke up. I heard some noise and I

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<v Speaker 1>was sitting in my kitchen and I became aware of

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<v Speaker 1>some shadows out back and some out front. And to

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<v Speaker 1>make a long story short, two people tried to break

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<v Speaker 1>in the front, three in the back at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>They jammie the screens out of the windows and took

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<v Speaker 1>wild glass cutters to cut the pain out so they

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<v Speaker 1>could open the windows. Were dressed in pretty much the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing, dark clothing, balaklavs with just the eyes out,

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<v Speaker 1>and apparently they had on some heavy kevlar armor and

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<v Speaker 1>they had side arms on the side. I was thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>why the police raiding me? And then I said, these

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<v Speaker 1>aren't police. I'm a sitting judge. This is three thirty

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<v Speaker 1>am in the morning. And they came in and there

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<v Speaker 1>was a shootout. I wound up having to patch the walls.

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<v Speaker 1>I called my friend Winfrey, who was the director of

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<v Speaker 1>the police at that time. He came out. We looked around.

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<v Speaker 1>We found some blood trails out front, out back, and

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<v Speaker 1>there was no report of anyone being treated in an

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<v Speaker 1>emergency room and no reports of this incident. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>a little wild. But actually my disposition I found it intriguing.

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<v Speaker 1>Intriguing or not. According to Judge Brown, nothing ever came

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<v Speaker 1>of that into in but one afternoon, not long after that,

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<v Speaker 1>Brown said he got a phone call while he was

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<v Speaker 1>in court. What's going on, Judge, is to Detective Song.

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<v Speaker 1>So and Song so we're out in the parking lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody's trying to break in your lexus. Okay. Five minutes later,

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<v Speaker 1>Judge the Song so they were trying to plant two

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<v Speaker 1>key loads of coke in your car. Oh wow, all right,

0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:28.280
<v Speaker 1>we got them. What's going on? They stayed there, were

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<v Speaker 1>with a federal agency and uh, they made a mistake

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<v Speaker 1>during this sting. But your name's on your parking place,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Stuff like that. It's hard to know just

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<v Speaker 1>what to make of such stories, but Judge Brown feels

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<v Speaker 1>they were related to his handling of the race case,

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<v Speaker 1>and things were starting to heat up because, although he

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<v Speaker 1>had initially been prevented from having the rifle test fired,

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Brown finally won permission to do that very thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The rifle was tested by ballistics expert Robert Hathaway at

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<v Speaker 1>the University of Rhode Island Crime Lab, and two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>later the results were revealed in court. After hearing testimony

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<v Speaker 1>from ballistics experts, Memphis, Judge Joe Brown decided further examination

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<v Speaker 1>of test fire bullets from James R. Ray's rifle maybe needed.

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<v Speaker 1>This was one headline the day after the test results

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<v Speaker 1>of the rifle were announced. Hathaway testified that he fired

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<v Speaker 1>and recovered eighteen bullets like the one that killed Dr. King.

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<v Speaker 1>Twelve of those eighteen emerged with unique markings matching them

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<v Speaker 1>to each other and to the rifle itself, but they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't match the fatal slug recovered from Dr. King. But

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<v Speaker 1>six bullets did not have those particular markings, even though

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<v Speaker 1>they were fired from the same weapon. Hathaway's tests strongly

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<v Speaker 1>suggested that the death slug was not fired from Ray's rifle,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was short of proving that if six bullets

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<v Speaker 1>could have been fired by the rifle but not be

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<v Speaker 1>with certainty trace back to it. Then the same could

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<v Speaker 1>be true for the death slog. There was immediate talk

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<v Speaker 1>of retest. More scientific tests may be conducted on James

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<v Speaker 1>Earl Ray's rifle to see if it was used to

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<v Speaker 1>kill Martin Luther King. Tests described Friday were inconclusive, though

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<v Speaker 1>a build up of material and the rifle barrel could

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<v Speaker 1>be to blame. But today experts told that Joe Brown

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<v Speaker 1>James L. Ray's rifle had not been thoroughly cleaned since

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<v Speaker 1>the last test firing, and that build up within the

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<v Speaker 1>barrel may have jeopardized the accuracy of this testing. As

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<v Speaker 1>soon as the results of the rifle test were announced,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Pepper asked for the rifle to be tested again.

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Brown then asked the Appeals Court for permission to

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<v Speaker 1>retest the gun after it had been cleaned. What we

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<v Speaker 1>wanted was to get everything out so we could get

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<v Speaker 1>a pristine bore and get the best sample possible. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a company called Outers and they made cleaning supply is

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<v Speaker 1>for weapons. They had a reverse plating device known as

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<v Speaker 1>a foul out, and what you do is when you

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<v Speaker 1>hook the weapons rifle up to this, you get an

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<v Speaker 1>electric current going which causes any fouling in the bore

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<v Speaker 1>to come out without having to scrub it. But the

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<v Speaker 1>authorities were not keen on this proposal. State witness Tommy

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<v Speaker 1>Heflin of the Tennessee Bureau of an Investigation testified, cleaning

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<v Speaker 1>the rifle may damage it and could alter the markings

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<v Speaker 1>on the bullets win fire. So you're gonna change and

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<v Speaker 1>either take away or you're gonna add things to them.

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<v Speaker 1>They had the idea of what you're gonna do is

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<v Speaker 1>take a wire brush and run it up and down

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<v Speaker 1>the boar, and they were worried about that damaging the rifle.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a very peculiar thing that they put in

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<v Speaker 1>their documentation to state said if the rifle is tested

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, it may become damaged, which would quote

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<v Speaker 1>prevented from being retested in the future unquote. Now that

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<v Speaker 1>one eludes me. If you don't want it tested now,

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<v Speaker 1>why do you want it tested in the future. As

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<v Speaker 1>it turned out, Judge Brown never got permission to test

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<v Speaker 1>the rifle again, and what finally happened to raise appeal.

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<v Speaker 1>Here is Judge Brown's response to that very question asked

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<v Speaker 1>by Bill Pepper at the civil trial. Well, they're removed

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<v Speaker 1>from the case. He said, I'll be biased for James

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<v Speaker 1>row a rate which I found rather astonishing. Anybody knows

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<v Speaker 1>me to be being a biased in favor of itself

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<v Speaker 1>about racist and bigot is just absolutely disgusting in the

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<v Speaker 1>concept what I've always tried to do to be fair

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<v Speaker 1>and Parson wotfully detached, straight down the middle and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>with another that upsets people when things don't go as

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<v Speaker 1>they expect them to go, or you were ruined by

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<v Speaker 1>the from a case by Whome Tennessee Cord from Peas

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<v Speaker 1>So Judge Brown was removed and another judge was brought

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<v Speaker 1>in and raised petition for post conviction relief was dismissed.

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<v Speaker 1>But the mystery surrounding Raise Rifle have only deepened. Anyone

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<v Speaker 1>today who looks into the case can learn soon enough

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<v Speaker 1>that the FBI could not match the death slug to

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<v Speaker 1>Raise rifle. But at the time of the murder and

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<v Speaker 1>raise subsequent plea hearing a year later, the common wisdom

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<v Speaker 1>in the country was that a match had been made.

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<v Speaker 1>How had this come about? It is incumbent upon the

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<v Speaker 1>state in a plea of guilty to murder in the

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<v Speaker 1>first degree to put on certain proof for your consideration.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to put on proof of what we lawyers

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<v Speaker 1>call the proof of corpus delicti, which is the body

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<v Speaker 1>of the crime. This is a reading of the words

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<v Speaker 1>of Assistant Attorney General James Beasley, spoken at Ray's plea

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<v Speaker 1>hearing in March nineteen sixty eight in Tennessee. At the time,

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<v Speaker 1>after a person had pleaded guilty to murder, the state

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<v Speaker 1>was obligated to present some of the evidence they would

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<v Speaker 1>have offered had there been a trial. So the state

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<v Speaker 1>put on an abbreviated and uncontested version of their case.

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<v Speaker 1>They called witnesses who saw doctor King brought down by

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<v Speaker 1>a bullet. They introduced a doctor who said that doctor

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<v Speaker 1>King died because of that bullet, and a police officer

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<v Speaker 1>who found a thirty caliber rifle on the street. Beasley

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<v Speaker 1>then spoke of an expert who would testify that he

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<v Speaker 1>discovered the fingerprints of James Earl Ray on that rifle,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the clincher assistant A. G. Beasley spoke of

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<v Speaker 1>an FBI man who testify at the trial had there

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<v Speaker 1>been one, as to his examination of the death slug

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<v Speaker 1>and its relationship to the found rifle. He examined the

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<v Speaker 1>cartridges the whole from the chamber of this rifle the

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<v Speaker 1>slug removed from the body of doctor Martin Luther King, Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>And would testify to his conclusions as follows. The death

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<v Speaker 1>slug was identical in all physical characteristics with the five

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<v Speaker 1>loaded thirty at six Springfield cartridges found in the bag

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<v Speaker 1>in front of cannipes. The cartridge case had in fact

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<v Speaker 1>been fired in this thirty at six rifle, that the

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<v Speaker 1>death slug removed from the body contained land and groove

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<v Speaker 1>impressions and direction of twist consistent with those that were

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<v Speaker 1>in the barrel of this rifle. To the jurors and

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<v Speaker 1>the newsmen in the room, it seemed that nothing more

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<v Speaker 1>needed to be said. But Mark Lane, who would be

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<v Speaker 1>raised attorney eight years later, said the following about what

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<v Speaker 1>had happened in his book Murder in Memphis. Quote. The

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<v Speaker 1>veteran lawyers in the courtroom smiled to themselves in much

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<v Speaker 1>the same way as professional magicians might do when they

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<v Speaker 1>observed an audience puzzled by a simple but well performed trick.

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<v Speaker 1>So what was the trick? All the fancy talk of

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<v Speaker 1>direction of twists and landing grooves impressions being consistent with

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<v Speaker 1>the barrel of Ray's rifle didn't mean that the bullet

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<v Speaker 1>had been matched to the rifle. It only meant that

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<v Speaker 1>Ray's rifle could have fired that bullet, along with thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of other thirty caliber rifles. But to the newsmen present

0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:36.679
<v Speaker 1>and the American people who would read their stories, the

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 1>case was a slam dunk. Not only had Ray entered

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<v Speaker 1>a guilty plea the police that found his rifle and

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<v Speaker 1>determined that it was the gun that killed King, but

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<v Speaker 1>just below the surface, practically in plain sight, was a

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<v Speaker 1>much more troubling problem about the attempt to match the

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<v Speaker 1>death slug to the gun purchased by James Earl Ray.

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<v Speaker 1>But as simple as it was, it took any five

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<v Speaker 1>years for it to raise its ugly head. Captain, do

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<v Speaker 1>you recognize this photograph? I recognize the body directs a

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 1>bullet that was there as being a photograph that I

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<v Speaker 1>took at the morgue of Dr Martin Luther King. This

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<v Speaker 1>audio comes from the HBO trial. Bill Pepper is cross

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<v Speaker 1>examining Captain Tommy Smith, who was a Memphis Police lieutenant

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<v Speaker 1>at the time of the murder. Off to the side

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<v Speaker 1>next to where Pepper is standing. Dr King's lifeless back

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<v Speaker 1>is displayed on a screen. Attorney Pepper gestures towards the image.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're pointing to the bullet. Are you indicating this

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<v Speaker 1>lump here? Dr King's back by his shoulder blade area?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you attempt to determine the from outside the skin

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<v Speaker 1>the structure of that bullet under the skin? Yes? Or

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<v Speaker 1>I did, and you could take your finger and pinch

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<v Speaker 1>and fea and roll that bullet under the skin. But

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<v Speaker 1>did you do that? I did? And what did you

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>feel as you pinched? And I felt a very good

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<v Speaker 1>bullet and was very thankful that we had a bullet

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<v Speaker 1>to compare, And was it in one piece? And intact

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<v Speaker 1>what I could fea was in one piece? In preparing

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<v Speaker 1>for the televised mock trial, Pepper had discovered the photograph

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<v Speaker 1>of King's back in the police files. When he found

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 1>out who had taken it, he contacted Captain Smith, who

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<v Speaker 1>agreed to testify as to what he had seen that

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<v Speaker 1>night and if Smith were correct, if the lump under

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<v Speaker 1>the skin was indeed the death slog, and if it

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 1>were in such good condition that it could roll around

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 1>under the skin at one point in time did it

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:48.920
<v Speaker 1>become the three grossly misshaped pieces of lead, which is

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 1>what we have of the fatal bullet today. It's a

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 1>valid question and one without a good answer. The problem

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 1>for Pepper was that although Smith had touched the object

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:01.720
<v Speaker 1>under the skin and rolled it around with his finger,

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 1>he had not actually seen the bullet removed. But then

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Pepper discovered a man who was said to have seen

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 1>the bullet taken from King's body. It was retired homicide

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 1>detective Barry Lynnville, who lived some distance outside of Memphis.

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Pepper called detective Lynnville and asked if he could come

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 1>by with a few questions about the King murder. When

0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 1>Pepper arrived, Lynnville asserted that he had indeed been in

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:29.800
<v Speaker 1>the autopsy room and that he had seen the death

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 1>slug removed from doctor King's shoulder. Pepper then showed Lynnville

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:38.080
<v Speaker 1>the FBI photo of the three bullet fragments said to

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 1>be what remained of the death slug. Lynville was stunned

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 1>because the fragments in the photo in no way resembled

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 1>what he saw in the morgue. Detective Lynnville could not

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 1>be compelled to appear at the HBO trial. He could

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:56.080
<v Speaker 1>have stayed out of it, but he was so disturbed

0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 1>by what he saw he agreed to testify, where he

0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:04.960
<v Speaker 1>was questioned by Bill Pepper. And were you present when

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<v Speaker 1>the body was received at the Morgan in Dr Francisco's presence, Yes,

0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 1>and would you describe? But what happened at that point?

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<v Speaker 1>We're examined the wound and then when we turned the

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 1>body over we could see the bullet underneath the skin

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 1>on the left shoulder. Were you present when that bullet

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 1>was removed? Yes? And how was that done? With a

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 1>scap and who did that, Doctor Francisco? You observed Dr

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 1>Francisco removed the bullet the death slug. Would you describe

0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 1>this bullet appeared to be a thirty all six caliber

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 1>UH copper. The entire copper jacket was intact in the

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 1>end of the bullet was flattened out. The lead at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the thirty dollar six it's got about

0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:00.880
<v Speaker 1>all appropment quarter of an ancient lead and would flattened out.

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>But the copper was all intact and showed excellent land

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 1>and bruise. And how many bullets would you say you

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:12.880
<v Speaker 1>have seen in your homicide career? Foutums And in terms

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 1>of the physical condition of this bullet, how would you

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 1>rate it? I'd rated on our scale of one to day,

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 1>and i'd rated man intact intact. Pepper then displayed the

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 1>official FBI photo of the disclog in three fragments. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you see these three fragments on the screen? These have

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<v Speaker 1>been introduced as the death slug in this case? Is

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 1>this the bullet you saw? No? Does it resemble the

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 1>bullets you saw in any way? No? I have no

0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 1>further questions for Prosecutor Hickman. Ewing rose and began his

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 1>cross examination. Lynnville's story of seeing a near perfect bullet

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 1>removed from King's back presented serious problems, problems that had

0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 1>never been exp floored before, because for twenty five years,

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:06.160
<v Speaker 1>the death slug had been represented by three very distorted

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 1>pieces of lead. How could that be if the actual

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 1>bullet had emerged intact? Eing questioned Linnville, but his story

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 1>remained the same. Ewing then had Linnville come down from

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:22.240
<v Speaker 1>the witness stand and draw on an easel a rough

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 1>picture of the bullet he had seen removed from King's body.

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 1>The bullet he drew was in one piece and perfectly

0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 1>shaped except for some flattening on the tip. Ewing was stumped.

0:33:35.840 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 1>You're saying what you all saw taken out of doctor

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:41.920
<v Speaker 1>King looked like that. It was. It was perfect in

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:46.000
<v Speaker 1>every manner. We felt like we'd found a piece of

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:48.479
<v Speaker 1>gold when we found a bullet. Have you been asked

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 1>about this over the last twenty five years? Is this

0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 1>the first time a week ago? Just first time a

0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 1>week the first time I've been asked about the bullet? Ever,

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Lynnville said to Ewing that when they discovered the fatal

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:08.239
<v Speaker 1>bullet in near pristine condition, they felt like they had

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:11.319
<v Speaker 1>found a piece of gold. He meant that a death

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 1>slug in such good condition carries a lot of information

0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:17.759
<v Speaker 1>that can be very useful in solving a crime. In

0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 1>this case, such a bullet might well have proved without

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:24.399
<v Speaker 1>a doubt, that hadn't been fired by Ray's rifle, as

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:27.319
<v Speaker 1>the district attorney said it was, or it might have

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 1>proved that race gun had not fired this bullet. This

0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:34.319
<v Speaker 1>is a strange conflict to discover twenty five years after

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 1>an important murder. Regarding the most critical piece of physical evidence.

0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Prosecutor Ewing couldn't really argue with Lynnville about what he

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:47.880
<v Speaker 1>said he saw he wasn't there. Lynnville was, but he

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:52.240
<v Speaker 1>could challenge his testimony in another way. When ballistics expert

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Charles Morton took the stand, Ewing pointed to the images

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:59.080
<v Speaker 1>of the three pieces of lead shown in the FBI photograph,

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:02.400
<v Speaker 1>and then you got these little pieces here, how how

0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:04.759
<v Speaker 1>much would you say that would weigh? Well, I'm in

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:06.840
<v Speaker 1>an advantage. I read the report that says at sixty

0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:08.960
<v Speaker 1>four grains, which a little bit less than half of

0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:12.359
<v Speaker 1>the weight. You're saying a perfect bullet, it's hundred and

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 1>fifty grains, and this weighed sixty four point four grains right.

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Ewing then wrote the numbers one, fifty and sixty four

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 1>side by side on an easel with Lynnville's drawing of

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:29.400
<v Speaker 1>the bullet to make his point the bullet fragments weighed

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:32.920
<v Speaker 1>less than half of what Lynnville said he saw. Ewing

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:35.840
<v Speaker 1>may have felt as though he had damaged Lynnville's assertion

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 1>of an intact bullet, but to the jurors who would

0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 1>ultimately find Ray not guilty, the large difference in appearance

0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:46.720
<v Speaker 1>and wait may well have made them feel that something

0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 1>was very wrong. Assuming that Officer Smith and Detective Lynnville

0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 1>are telling the truth and I can think of no

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 1>reason for them to lie. We are presented with two possibilities.

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:01.880
<v Speaker 1>The first is that something happened to the evidence bullet,

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 1>some handling or mishandling to make it look like it

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 1>does today. But how are there no records of this?

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:11.120
<v Speaker 1>And how does a found bullet lose more than half

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 1>its weight. The other possibility is that the bullet seen

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>by Lynnville was discarded and the mangled lead we see

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 1>today was put in its place. I don't know the

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:24.239
<v Speaker 1>answer here, and this may be a bigger leap than

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 1>some of you are willing to make, But for context,

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I can say that I studied the Robert Kennedy murder

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:32.920
<v Speaker 1>for years, I wrote a book about it, and what

0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you to a certainty is that the

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:38.799
<v Speaker 1>police lied about the bullet evidence they recovered, and when

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 1>that lie was about to be exposed, they destroyed the

0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:45.360
<v Speaker 1>evidence itself. Again, I don't know what happened to the

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:47.840
<v Speaker 1>bullet in the kin case, but when you were looking

0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 1>at evidence presented by the authorities, you might do well

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:55.880
<v Speaker 1>to remember the song. It ain't necessarily so. Also, I

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:58.279
<v Speaker 1>invite you to go to our website and look at

0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:01.719
<v Speaker 1>the photograph of the death slug fry mints posted alongside

0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 1>the drawing of the evidence bullet made by the detective Lynnville.

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:08.840
<v Speaker 1>The explanation for the difference may be innocent, or it

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 1>may be nefarious, but whatever it is, this is one

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 1>hell of an alteration of a prime piece of evidence.

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:19.960
<v Speaker 1>A problem with a bullet might also be a reason

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 1>why there was such pressure en Ray to plead guilty.

0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:26.560
<v Speaker 1>For if he had a trial and an attorney serving

0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 1>his interests, that attorney may well have discovered the conflict.

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:32.799
<v Speaker 1>He would have been able to put others on the

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 1>witness stand who had been at the morgue and had

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:38.839
<v Speaker 1>seen what detective Lynnville and Smith testified too. He could

0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 1>have demanded to see documents and photos in the police

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:45.040
<v Speaker 1>and FBI files. He could have asked the jury, how

0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 1>was it that a bullet that might well approve his

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:50.800
<v Speaker 1>client's innocence could end up as three pieces of tortured

0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:54.880
<v Speaker 1>lad Looking back from a distance of fifty years, it

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 1>is hard for us to sort it out with certainty.

0:37:57.680 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 1>But it might have been a very different story at

0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:12.920
<v Speaker 1>ray trial if he'd had one Next time on the

0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:16.080
<v Speaker 1>email k tapes, next thing that taken a lot of

0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 1>pride in itself. It was paternalist. They had made some games,

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:24.400
<v Speaker 1>but it was raised to the court. They had a

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:28.920
<v Speaker 1>list that this clue club plan and citizen Council passed

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 1>a run and the list contained name they called the

0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:41.879
<v Speaker 1>trouble makers with exs behind The plan was get King

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:45.360
<v Speaker 1>to the city because they wanted it handled in Memphis

0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 1>for dead in them could handle it. He told me, he

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:50.080
<v Speaker 1>he said I had killed it what I had done,

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:52.279
<v Speaker 1>And I said, what about the other son of a bitch?

0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll they're taking credit for He says he wasn't known

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:58.320
<v Speaker 1>about a trouble maker from a suri. He was a

0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:02.279
<v Speaker 1>front man. Last Wednesday morning, the FBI told me they

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:05.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't believe the story related in any way to the

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:08.919
<v Speaker 1>King's assassin and they were through with it. He said

0:39:08.920 --> 0:39:11.439
<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't be there. They won't be there that night.

0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Did he say there would be a decoy there? Yeah,

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:18.560
<v Speaker 1>be set up or look black somewhere else done the killings.

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