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Speaker 9: Right now, we're blessed to have three Somali elected officials

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Sometimes I miss home, But for real life, you

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Speaker 10: They're not really open with dropping out what's really on

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Speaker 5: And it's somewhat I think what the culture is. Some

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Speaker 2: You know, people get freaked out by this neighborhood. When

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Speaker 1: You go to that cafe, You go to any cafe.

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Speaker 7: But I would say there's a lot more younger people

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Speaker 7: It's a lot cleaner, a lot less chaos. You weren't

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Speaker 4: Okay, so I've heard the second Minnesota who was mentioned

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Speaker 7: Things used to be fairly orderly. You know, if if

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Speaker 7: I know there was a there's a white pickup truck

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Speaker 3: Kind of a sad street tonight because we got too

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Speaker 4: I'm currently standing in front of Palmer's Bar because this

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Speaker 4: But the growing population isn't the only way Minneapolis has changed.

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Speaker 8: I think we all know that we've evolved into a

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Speaker 4: That representation of the Somali population has also made its

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Speaker 2: Salam Alekam, I sat here before you and tonight as

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Speaker 4: Elect Omar, who is still currently serving as a congresswoman,

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Speaker 4: But I am a Somali girl, a girl with your

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Speaker 4: I am very honored to have the chance that our president,

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Speaker 4: him a warm welcome Minneapolis. The interests of Ilkhan are

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Speaker 3: She's the fantasiest Somali. You're going to get elected. You

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Speaker 9: I understand that our Somali communities are all connected to

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Speaker 4: Fatai and Omar are examples of the changing politics and

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Speaker 4: hitting the list of one hundred most popular baby in

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Speaker 4: Saint Paul, Minnesota, to the closure of a one hundred

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Speaker 4: and nineteen year old bar due to the changing culture

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Speaker 4: and drinking habits. The growing African and Muslim population has

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Speaker 4: continued to make its way throughout Minnesota, and due to

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Speaker 4: modern day US immigration policy looks like it has no

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Speaker 4: plans of slowing down, but it.

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Speaker 7: Was it was about then two thousand and six, two

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Speaker 7: thousand and seven where I noticed that there were their

447
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Speaker 7: presence was becoming very prominent. And then later we learned

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Speaker 7: that they were I can't give you exact figures on

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Speaker 7: what they're getting in terms of handouts and dolls, but

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Speaker 7: I know I was pretty staggered when I heard when

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Speaker 7: if it was either a single person or a couple,

452
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Speaker 7: it was like twenty five hundred a month, and if

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Speaker 7: it was a family with kids, they were getting an

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Speaker 7: automatic like four thousand, five hundred a month in just

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Speaker 7: just handouts, you know. And so when they kind of

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Speaker 7: take over an area like this, it's I mean, it's

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Speaker 7: not really that surprising that people like to say, Oh,

458
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Speaker 7: it's their ingenuity and their their work ethic and stuff.

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Speaker 7: It's not. It's it's handouts. And anybody can can flourish

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Speaker 7: with that kind of cushioning.

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Speaker 1: Well, there we go. That's good. And the reason why

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Speaker 1: I play this this is turning point. It's turning point

463
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Speaker 1: is very fundamental now in the so called Mega Movement

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Speaker 1: or the America First Movement, and in the feedback that

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Speaker 1: I got from our first interview our first get together.

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Speaker 1: You know, there was a lot of pushback on me personally,

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Speaker 1: like I wasn't really pressing you about what's really going on,

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Speaker 1: and I.

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Speaker 3: Thought, you know what, superficial.

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Speaker 1: Let's just get down, right, let's get down And that's

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Speaker 1: an opening bit. That's a tough opening bit when I

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Speaker 1: first watched it, and I said to you, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty not terrible. Actually, on the second, the second

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Speaker 1: time I've watched it, it actually has quite an editorial slant,

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Speaker 1: and uh, it's a good place for us to jump

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Speaker 1: off because the people that are watching the podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: just going to say it, there's a Islamophobic element in uh,

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Speaker 1: the the conservative political part of our body politic and

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Speaker 1: I think there's fear, and where there's fear, there's anger,

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Speaker 1: and I want you to address it. I'm just going

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Speaker 1: to let you respond to it as you see fit

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Speaker 1: and we'll just start talking about what's really going on.

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Speaker 1: What is you know, is their fraud, is their vote tampering?

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Speaker 1: Is there an effort to ISLAMI sized Minnesota in the

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Speaker 1: United States of America, people are worried about this, So

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Speaker 1: speak to it. Just starting where you want to. Let's

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Speaker 1: d n please.

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Speaker 3: Firsting, first, the immigration we came because the refugi status

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Speaker 3: got accepted by George bush One. George Bushwan led uh

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Speaker 3: sent troops to Somalia to basically quell the civil war

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Speaker 3: because he had an idea for the New World Order

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Speaker 3: and he wanted a piece of territory to be part

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Speaker 3: of america global influence footprint.

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Speaker 1: And slow down, slow your role. What I think I

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Speaker 1: just heard you said is that George H. W. Bush

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Speaker 1: Won sent troops American troops Marines, which is now immortalized

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Speaker 1: with the Blackhawk Dog incident, and that was American foreign policy,

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Speaker 1: but actually part of what you called the New World Order.

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Speaker 1: That it was George what did he say?

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Speaker 3: He said, it's a big bright idea.

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Speaker 1: You saw that. That's right on the internet. Anybody can

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Speaker 1: go see. He was the first president to say the

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Speaker 1: New World Order address in Congress exactly.

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Speaker 3: Now what at that particular moment, America was the policeman

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Speaker 3: of the world. And you have to understand the Soviet

506
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Speaker 3: collapsed West Eastern Bloke and there's no competition against America.

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Speaker 3: America's dominant. Francis Fukuyama was writing about the death of

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Speaker 3: history or the end of his history. This is an

509
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Speaker 3: amazing time. This is the the neit of American power.

510
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Speaker 3: We went from being a multi polar world where the

511
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Speaker 3: Soviet broke and the American Western Bloc, to one unipolar world.

512
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Speaker 3: And America called it a new world order, and the

513
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Speaker 3: world order was to regulate markets, regulate countries, and basically

514
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Speaker 3: we became the policeman of the world. We let it Riprakvgaristan,

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Speaker 3: many other places, Libya, Sudan, I mean, we let it ripped,

516
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Speaker 3: and we tried to be everybody's guardian angel. People called

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Speaker 3: us threats and it scared the world right back into

518
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Speaker 3: multipolar world. And Somalis came to.

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Speaker 1: America legally, legally, legally.

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Speaker 3: And what happens is in the nineties. I mean, Somalists

521
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Speaker 3: have been coming to America since the forties. Two Marines.

522
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Speaker 3: I got families that are becoming here since the forties,

523
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Speaker 3: eighteen hundred. My family was educated here in the seventies.

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Speaker 3: University of Houston, University of Texas, Southern University, I mean,

525
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Speaker 3: Texas was where we went to to get educated all

526
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Speaker 3: the way down to the eighties until Asia India became cheaper,

527
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Speaker 3: and now China is cheaper. They're going to China, they

528
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Speaker 3: aren't coming to America anymore, and the citizens came to

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Speaker 3: America and we be got citizenship. Now, population wise, we're

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Speaker 3: ranging between thirty thousand to one hundred and twenty thousand,

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Speaker 3: give or take. And does some say with the last

532
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Speaker 3: four years open border policy, maybe buffer on another ten

533
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Speaker 3: fifteen thousand. Now, what we're talking about is a small

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Speaker 3: population in a society that is seven million.

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Speaker 1: Minnesotans talk about eighty nine hundred thousand people as a

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Speaker 1: percentage of seven million.

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Speaker 3: Now, last time I told you the question Tanning points

538
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Speaker 3: should ask is who is an American? And you started

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Speaker 3: with that preface, and the question that we need to

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Speaker 3: ask is Aresaumalis Americans?

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Speaker 1: Well, they're holding an American citizenship if they're lovely here.

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Speaker 3: So what is an American? When they talk about about

543
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Speaker 3: closing Palmers and that bar has been around for a

544
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Speaker 3: long time? Eighties legendary, legendary, I mean the stories that

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Speaker 3: come out of it and the university crowds that went

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Speaker 3: through it. I mean Hubert Humphrey Wellstone people probably you

547
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Speaker 3: thinking of Walter Moont. They probably drunk there, you know,

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Speaker 3: So you're talking about history Minnesota. I mean, we're talking

549
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Speaker 3: about from the lumber yard days and the Kagi Lays

550
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Speaker 3: dominating the state. I mean it's historical. We're Muslims. We

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Speaker 3: don't drink. The neighborhood is overwhelming Muslim We don't drink,

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Speaker 3: so they're losing money. And the university students. I don't

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Speaker 3: know what's going on with this generation. They don't drink either.

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Speaker 1: Can I ask a question, is it really true that

555
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Speaker 1: people don't drink?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: No, some drink, some drink.

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Speaker 3: Right, some drink some most don't.

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Speaker 1: But there are but there are some people that are drinkers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but they probably don't eat pork, but they drink or

561
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Speaker 1: do they eat pork too?

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Speaker 3: These are Americans. You never know the Helleluis.

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Speaker 1: But my point is the community itself is not hegemonic.

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Speaker 1: It's got all kinds of different There's no expressions.

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Speaker 3: There is no monolithic so Mali we are different. Even

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Speaker 3: within ourselves we're different.

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Speaker 1: We are there Smali men and women that are intermarrying

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Speaker 1: out of the community and join let's say the Catholic

569
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Speaker 1: Church or the Lutheran Church. Is that also going on?

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Speaker 3: Seeing a few Christians so madries and that is rare

571
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Speaker 3: to come by. But what we do is inter Maria

572
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Speaker 3: outside the community. My niece just married a Korean mother.

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Speaker 3: My cousin is married who was a marine translator, and

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Speaker 3: she married Pennsylvanian excuse me for a better water.

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Speaker 1: Red nick, a Pennsylvania redneck.

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Speaker 3: I mean the guy is awesome. I love him. But

577
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Speaker 3: the guy goes hunting and everything else. I mean I'm

578
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Speaker 3: talking about he's all out and he is. He went

579
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Speaker 3: ethnic all the way. My nephew is actually in Colorado

580
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Speaker 3: trying to join the Air Force. Now, I mean he's

581
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Speaker 3: a hunter. I mean two of my nieces I'm out

582
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Speaker 3: at to Puerto Ricans.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so there is inner marriage.

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Speaker 3: But we're trying too many within ourselves.

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Speaker 1: Well that you know, that's no different than the Jewish community,

586
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Speaker 1: because I was told from the time I can remember

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Speaker 1: that I have to marry a Jewish woman. I have to.

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Speaker 1: In fact, my you don't know this. I never said

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Speaker 1: this before my parents. My father, because I come from

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Speaker 1: a very religious background, said you know, if you don't

591
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Speaker 1: marry a Jewish person, you're going to get excommunicated. We're

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Speaker 1: going to throw you out of the client and so

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Speaker 1: to speak.

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Speaker 5: So there was a lot.

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Speaker 1: Worse. You can hide a tattoo. But you know, there

596
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Speaker 1: was a lot of pressure on me to marry a

597
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Speaker 1: Jewish woman and to be part of the Jewish community

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Speaker 1: and to not so that's that's not unique to the

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Speaker 1: smiling community that did the impetus to stay within your

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Speaker 1: own structure. Your own structure too.

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Speaker 3: So tribal people have tribal ways, and tribal ways means

602
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Speaker 3: we stick together through thick and thin.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Jewish people remember that we're tribal.

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Speaker 3: Jewish people don't remember your tribal because you have lived

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Speaker 3: in metropolisis and in the West or Toulon.

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Speaker 1: That's a very interesting comment, very interesting. Yes, I agree

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Speaker 1: with you that we've lived in the in the Western

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Speaker 1: way so long, in fact, that I think people have

609
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Speaker 1: forgotten what it is a lot of people forgot what

610
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Speaker 1: it is to be Jewish. So uh, you know, this

611
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Speaker 1: goes it. What is Jewish? What a Somalian? What is American?

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Speaker 1: With all these questions of identity, I mean.

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Speaker 3: When you look at the Jewish community, whatever they are,

614
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Speaker 3: they're more or less the uber pitot. When you look

615
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Speaker 3: at Iraq, for example, the Baptist theologians and philosophers were Jewish.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that or when you look at are

617
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Speaker 1: you saying did I just hear you say that the

618
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Speaker 1: political theorists that were at the base the Bath Party

619
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Speaker 1: were Iraqi jewsh.

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Speaker 3: Thing with Germany before Nazi Germany, who was more German

621
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Speaker 3: than the Jewish Germans?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the German the German Jews.

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Speaker 3: You go to Russia the same thing, you come to

624
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Speaker 3: America the same thing. Basically, Jews assimilate and you've been

625
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Speaker 3: blessed intellectually and uh, you seem to be at the forefront.

626
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Speaker 3: And let's talk about the Somari community and Tanning Point.

627
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Speaker 3: Tanning Point is a Charlie Kawk outfit. He's pretty good

628
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Speaker 3: as a marga. He's very efficient. He's basically a by

629
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Speaker 3: the book. But the book we talk about is the Bible.

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Speaker 3: And uh, and he also reads the talk. I've seen

631
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Speaker 3: him debate in colleges. He's awesome. But he also wants

632
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Speaker 3: to banish Alam. Let's get that out of the way.

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Speaker 1: Let's put it on the table. Yeah. So when when

634
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Speaker 1: you say it wants the ban is.

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Speaker 3: This is out and about saying this Islam is not

636
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Speaker 3: compatible with the West. And let me give you the

637
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 3: urban legend given when Muslims are minorities. They play nice,

638
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 3: they overpopulate, having too many babies. After they have too

639
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 3: many babies, or they convert people and they become a majority,

640
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Speaker 3: they take over and Shardi AlOH comes and guess what

641
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 3: the death of Western order comes.

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Speaker 1: So in a sense, when I'm hearing you say.

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Speaker 3: That is that is that is what they believe.

644
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Speaker 1: That's what they That's what Charlie Kirk believes.

645
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Speaker 3: That's what a lot of people believe.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people here in Minnesota.

647
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Speaker 3: Is very many threats. There's some who actually buy into that.

648
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Speaker 3: But this is nothing new again in America. Let's go back.

649
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 3: I say I doubled with history. Let's go back to

650
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Speaker 3: the Founding days.

651
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Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna go back to seventeen seventy six.

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Speaker 3: When they came here, or when you say when when

653
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Speaker 3: the British sent the people over here. It was in

654
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Speaker 3: depth Jed sleeves. And before that it was indented workers.

655
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Speaker 3: The first people were indented in the America or white.

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Speaker 3: But go check what kind of white people who are

657
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Speaker 3: being indented? Okay, go ahead, please, Now you got to

658
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Speaker 3: go back to the religious theocracy and the classism system

659
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 3: that existed there. It was the prisoners. It was the halls,

660
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Speaker 3: it was the people who were being put together being

661
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Speaker 3: sent here, and it was also people who were out

662
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 3: running away from religious persecution. It was a way to

663
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Speaker 3: empty their country.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so what you're saying is the first a lot

665
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Speaker 1: of the first people who came here were indented, and

666
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Speaker 1: they were under the control of the space.

667
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Speaker 3: With that passage, they put in time to earn their freedom,

668
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 3: to hunt their freedom. The first lives in America are white.

669
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Speaker 3: You have to understand that basically, in this system in America,

670
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 3: it's always been one person owning another person, or one

671
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 3: person identifying the other person as a lesser person. We

672
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 3: founded this country that way, and stop stops not found

673
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Speaker 3: in this country, but the colony was built on that percept.

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Speaker 1: The founding documents. There was a political argument about this

675
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Speaker 1: amongst the founders of this country. The framers of the country.

676
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Speaker 1: They put in a system where all men were created equal,

677
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Speaker 1: but the political reality was that's not what was here

678
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Speaker 1: at the beginning. We've been working towards all these throughth

679
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: to be self evident.

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Speaker 3: Self evident that all men are creating equal with invaliable

681
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 3: rights and freedoms of liberty to the pursuit of happiness.

682
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 3: This is a document that said that but their.

683
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Speaker 1: Own sleeves, we got to start somewhere.

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Speaker 3: True, it is the ideal of America. America is always

685
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Speaker 3: an idea. So the question that Charlie cock Tanning point

686
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Speaker 3: on all these people who are ragging on Muslims and

687
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 3: black people and Mexico and Hispanics and Guatemala, El Salvadorians

688
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Speaker 3: an equatorian. I'm practically anybody with pigment in it who

689
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Speaker 3: is an American. I saw a meme people maga people

690
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 3: actually asking if the Native American is really an illegal

691
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 3: immigrant as a congressman's I mean, they've gone that level.

692
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 3: You've gone, walkman, right walk you become stupid now, because

693
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 3: what does it mean to become an American? An American

694
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Speaker 3: is one who is loyal to the Constitution of the

695
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 3: United States of America or based the laws, pays the taxes,

696
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Speaker 3: keeps to themselves, is industrious, and more importantly, builds this country,

697
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Speaker 3: protects it serves it.

698
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Speaker 1: The fear.

699
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Speaker 3: That is what defines an American.

700
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Speaker 1: But the fear is the fear is is that groups

701
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Speaker 1: come into the country and profess allegiance to the founding

702
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: documents and it's not really what they seek to be.

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Speaker 3: Frankness said it in Pennsylvania. He said, the sending us

704
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Speaker 3: the dumb gentlemans, go check it out. It's actually coot

705
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Speaker 3: little sending us the best. Why because they were Catholic.

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Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I think that's something that the audience can

707
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Speaker 1: focus on that the root of the Republican Party goes

708
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: back to a party called the Whigs, and they had

709
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Speaker 1: an associated Antifa called the know Nothings, and the know

710
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: Nothings were a variantly violent anti immigration wing of the

711
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: precursor of the Republican Party, and they were well, there

712
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: was a great effort to keep the Catholics, the Irish Catholics,

713
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Speaker 1: particularly out of the United States of America. And I

714
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: said that there's a great movie directed by a great director,

715
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: Martin corse Is he called The Gangs of New York,

716
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: which actually five points except the War for New York.

717
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Speaker 1: And we lose that history. We don't recognize that this

718
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: argument about immigration goes back to day one. What is

719
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: an American?

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Speaker 3: You see the Irish for being brought in mis ships

721
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Speaker 3: because the Northern doesn't need a soldiers. And they said, listen,

722
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 3: Irish men can't fight. Those are potato farming, and the

723
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 3: Irish were looking for a way out, and they were

724
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Speaker 3: put on ships. They landed in New York and before

725
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 3: you know it, they had got the uniform. Their wives

726
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 3: went one way, and the Johnny got a gun. Johnny

727
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: boy got a gun and he was sent down to

728
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Speaker 3: the No.

729
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Speaker 1: That was not that different than the Germans that came

730
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Speaker 1: here into Minnesota. We have. We had a new German

731
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Speaker 1: Catholic community in Minnesota and they just fresh off the boat,

732
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: picked up those guns, put on the uniform of the

733
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Speaker 1: of the Union from the.

734
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Speaker 3: War, from New arm all the way up to the

735
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Speaker 3: border with Wisconsin. These people, this boy is served that

736
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 3: they went all out World War one, World War two,

737
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Speaker 3: they served in more capacity. These German Americans who basically

738
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Speaker 3: was seen as enemy aliens that any other community in Minnesota.

739
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Speaker 3: Now understand this. The Italians came same thing. Lapels were

740
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 3: given to them. The Irish came to America. In New

741
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 3: York City there was signs that said no dogs or

742
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Speaker 3: Irish allout.

743
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Speaker 1: No dogs are no Irish. Pretty much, Yeah.

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Speaker 11: I think the contrast that I kind of see, and

745
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Speaker 11: I can I can understand why some people might have

746
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 11: few views that are different than past immigrations. Is that

747
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Speaker 11: when you see the leaders like ilhan Omar stating that

748
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Speaker 11: her intentions are for Somalia and for the Somalian people.

749
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Speaker 11: So then you know, we talked about what is an

750
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Speaker 11: American and someone that's trying to uphold the constitutions A.

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Speaker 3: Beautiful seguek Let's take that on number one, she's no

752
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 3: Somali Parliament or the US.

753
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Speaker 1: Congress, US Congress.

754
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Speaker 3: Who's loyal TDCO.

755
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Speaker 1: To the United States of America.

756
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Speaker 3: So well, does Somalia come in?

757
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Speaker 1: Where does Somalia come in? Which brings up another.

758
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Speaker 3: Very interesting Does she represents the fifth district or Morgadishu

759
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Speaker 3: fifth district?

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Speaker 1: Her constituents are much greater in number than just that

761
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Speaker 1: Samalian community. I'm sure that that's a very small percentage.

762
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Speaker 3: If she says we help Somalia, we'll take your fifth district.

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Speaker 3: First look at the fifth district.

764
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Speaker 1: Today needs a lot of help, doesn't it. Oh?

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Speaker 3: I love it. Hanoma as a woman, she's broken bodies.

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Speaker 3: As a Somali, she's broken bodies the first Somali we

767
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Speaker 3: sell to Congress. As a politician, he's doing damage to us.

768
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Speaker 1: You're saying you respect her because she got elected to Congress.

769
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Speaker 3: Come on first, that's an American dream, That's a story

770
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Speaker 3: you'll only here in America.

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Speaker 1: Only in America.

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Speaker 3: Well, you just got to love America.

773
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Speaker 1: But she you love America because that's possible. But I

774
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Speaker 1: also heard you say she's actually damaging the Somali community

775
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Speaker 1: in your opinion. Did I hear that correctly?

776
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Speaker 3: I would say yes, because at the end of the day,

777
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 3: we sent her for the fifth district. I used to

778
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 3: live in the fifth district. We got more pop up

779
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 3: tents in the fifth district now like.

780
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Speaker 1: Gaza homeless, talking about homeless homelessly.

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Speaker 3: We took about drug addiction in my community. I boughted

782
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Speaker 3: four individuals in Minnesota. The drug overdose is ridiculous. The

783
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 3: fentannel is killing people here.

784
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Speaker 1: I had. I had my first experience with somebody that

785
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: I was connected to died of fentanyl overdose just in

786
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Speaker 1: the last month.

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Speaker 3: I was a walk yesterday and we were talking about

788
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Speaker 3: it and we were smoking cigarettes on a smoke brick

789
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 3: and I do smoke cigarettes, and each one of us

790
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 3: around the table, how the death story of somebody, didn't

791
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 3: you One hundred and ten thousand Americans die of drug

792
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 3: overdose every year. That's a genocide.

793
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: You're saying that the drug epidemic, particularly because it has

794
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: foreign implications, is actually.

795
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Speaker 3: That's a genocide.

796
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 1: It's a genocide. You're saying that it's.

797
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 3: Coming from there, coming into here, and it's killing us

798
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 3: one hundred and ten thousand people. And guess what, nothing,

799
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 3: we're not seeing anything handouts. It's not handouts. We're looking

800
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 3: for we're looking for solutions. And I went and I

801
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 3: said it. What we need is a hand up. Now,

802
00:46:54,920 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 3: a hand up, a hand up. We see as a

803
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 3: big heart but a small mind, because she's a Democrat

804
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 3: and a progressive, not a democrat progressive.

805
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: A big heart and a small mind.

806
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 3: And we are Republicans. We have a big mind and

807
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 3: a small heart. We went through that the first episode.

808
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 3: Now I all wants to take on white supremacy. Heck,

809
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 3: we don't care your orange, green, pink blooded. We don't

810
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 3: care what your greedy is, what your sexuality is, what

811
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 3: your religion is, We just don't care. What we care

812
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 3: about is can we build a society that safe? Can

813
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 3: we build our country? And more importantly, can we deal

814
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 3: with our issues?

815
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: Okay, so here here's the question. Now I here you know,

816
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: we're getting to know each other and I'm getting a

817
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: And this was another thing that came up after our

818
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: first interview. Do I believe you you're lying to people?

819
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 1: Tell me you're lying to me? And I said, well,

820
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know this guy that good, but

821
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: I'm going to keep talking to him. And then we

822
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: went out and had a meal, build a relationship. And

823
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: I don't think you're lying to you. But the question

824
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 1: people are going to ask me is are you an

825
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 1: outlier or do you represent a growing constituency of New

826
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: American citizens that don't care about your color, don't care

827
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 1: about your creed, don't care about all of these identity

828
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: politics issues, and they care about economic opportunity, religious freedom,

829
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: economic freedom, medical freedom, they care about the freedom. Are

830
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: you an outlier or is this a growing sentiment within

831
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Speaker 1: the African community here in Minnesota.

832
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 3: Well, when you talk about African heah in Minnesota, it's

833
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 3: not just so madist.

834
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Speaker 1: That's why I said that.

835
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Speaker 3: We have the Keysies, we have the Full Dan, we

836
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 3: have the Mantingo, we have the Liberians of all ethnicities

837
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 3: coming from Malay Liberia. We have the Senegalese, the Franco

838
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 3: fot the Guinea Kanak, Guinea Bissau people. We have the Nigerias,

839
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 3: we have the Kenyans. It's a big community out you.

840
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 3: Of Africans, we have the the the Amarna, big communities

841
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 3: out there.

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00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,439
Speaker 1: If the Somali community is some eighty to one hundred

843
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: and thirty thousand, do you know these other African groups,

844
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: what is their population double? So we've got three to

845
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: four hundred thousand people in Minnesota. Yeah, that come from

846
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: all these different countries in Africa.

847
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 3: That is correct?

848
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: And is the Somali community coordinated with these other communities

849
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: or are these other communities doing their own thing?

850
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Speaker 3: Well, he's the beautiful part the old Minnesotans. You go

851
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 3: to your nursing home, you've probably been taken care of

852
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 3: by an African. Your mama, your grandpa has been taken

853
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 3: care of by people who of African descent, whether it's

854
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 3: African American eldest who we've found here, who shoulders we

855
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 3: stand on because everything we got in America was thanks

856
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 3: to them, and also thanks to our white allies on

857
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 3: white community and the Asians and everyone else. Basically, nobody

858
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 3: is living in a bantustan. We are all integrated economically

859
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 3: into Minnesota, into Minnesota.

860
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Speaker 1: So the question people want to have answered is is

861
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Speaker 1: this a sincere effort to integrate into the community and

862
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Speaker 1: be part of them.

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Speaker 3: We have to define a similation, don't we say that again?

864
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Speaker 3: We have to define what assimilation means.

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Speaker 1: We're into the now, we're into the part that I

866
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Speaker 1: want to make a comment.

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Speaker 3: Do you have to lose my culture to become a

868
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Speaker 3: slave of another culture to be called assimilated? Sleeve?

869
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: Well? Certainly, well, because.

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Speaker 3: Charlie Cak and then what they're looking for is sleeves.

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Speaker 3: They want me to look like them. I wear a

872
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Speaker 3: suit and a tie. Charlie, you wear a suit and

873
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 3: a tie. We are alike, but you understand I do understand

874
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 3: we're different. What matters to me is can I sell

875
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 3: you something? Can you buy something from me? Can I

876
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 3: do business with you? What matters to me is are

877
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 3: you going to keep me safe? And can I keep

878
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 3: you safe? What matters to me is are you going

879
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 3: to obey that law? Are you going to pay your

880
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 3: fair texts?

881
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: Now we're into the pith of this. For everybody that's listening,

882
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: what is assimilation? Because no matter who we are, unless

883
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: you happen to be a native to this country. You

884
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: came from somewhere and assimilated into American culture, and we

885
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: don't even know what American culture is. We don't know

886
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: what assimilation means, and we don't know what it is

887
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: to be in America.

888
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 3: We know what American culture is.

889
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: Well, we need well, maybe we do, maybe we don't.

890
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 3: No, we do. It's called posuit of happiness. Whatever you

891
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 3: define as your happiness, that's.

892
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: You, Okay. So what you're saying is is that what

893
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: the definition of an American is is found in the

894
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: Founding Documents. We need to agree that it's life, liberty,

895
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 1: and the pursuit of happiness that defines our life. The

896
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: sanctity of our life, our ability to be free, protected,

897
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: and our pursuit of whatever dream we want to pursue. That,

898
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: am I hearing you correctly? To you, that's what it

899
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: is to be an American.

900
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 3: To be an American basically means you'll pay the lull.

901
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 3: I'm a constitutionist to the core. I don't want to

902
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 3: change one door other people because it saved doesn't made

903
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 3: us great for two hundred and fifty years. I mean,

904
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 3: we fitted with it, but we don't tear it down.

905
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 3: What's happening in America within the MAGA movement and also

906
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 3: on the walk side on the left and the walk

907
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 3: side on this side is basically they become putists, purists,

908
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 3: buritanical about.

909
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: It, puritanical political movements.

910
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 3: You know what happens to people like that? Ask the

911
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 3: Democrats when they went all the way wook, what kind

912
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 3: of power do they have? A court of American citizens

913
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 3: today are foreign.

914
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 1: Born like me twenty five percent, and we.

915
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 3: Have allies, friends and partners. You start making being an

916
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 3: American ethn white, Christian or just Christian, you're going to

917
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 3: lose a huge segment of Republican Party.

918
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 10: Now.

919
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 3: The other work ideology scares us to death because we

920
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 3: have people of faith. Because they deep into social engineering,

921
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 3: micro management and control. They want to take away our guns,

922
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 3: are free speech. They want to take away a second

923
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 3: Amendment or first Amendment. They want to modify it. They

924
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 3: wanna pack the Supreme Court, they want to change add

925
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 3: most states. They want to I mean basically all to

926
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 3: get power. And why do they need the power to

927
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 3: micro managers and controllers more effectively, Because they believe that

928
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 3: that's the way to society, a more control centralized formatted system.

929
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 3: We've seen that where we come from, it doesn't work.

930
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 3: America is more localized.

931
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: America is what what did you say, more localized? More localized?

932
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 3: I went to little Italy, Ala had a beautiful film

933
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 3: in with a spaghetti and the flag outside that whole

934
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 3: neighborhood in you is Italian? Do you see it? Taning

935
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 3: Point in the story on that.

936
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: No, have you seen an.

937
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 3: Irish pub anyway in America?

938
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: Sure?

939
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 3: What flag do they have?

940
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: Do they have this?

941
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 3: If they don't have a flag, you will see a

942
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:41,479
Speaker 3: clover leaf on it. Oh, Johnny Boy, Johnny Boy probably

943
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 3: is playing in it.

944
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: So what you're saying is that we have.

945
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 3: You see tanning Point doing a story on that.

946
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: We have ethnic subcultures that have maintained the flavor of

947
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: their unique histories. But they're not seen today as a threat.

948
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: But they were in the past.

949
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 3: When they first came there were enemy aliens, the Sweets,

950
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 3: the Norwegians. We used to read their male in Minnesota.

951
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 3: Did you know that we used to read what their

952
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 3: male World War One? They had somebody who would control

953
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 3: them to make sure that they fit in.

954
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: Oh, so their male was monitored.

955
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 3: They were surveilling the postmaster was basically the spymaster surveillance.

956
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 3: This is a good suite, this is a bad suite,

957
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 3: This is a good Norwegian. This is a bad Norwegian.

958
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 3: And it affected the income affected there because they were

959
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 3: thought to be radicals anarchists. Today was the theme terrorists,

960
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 3: rapist that's the new one rapist or the rape kids,

961
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 3: young girls and stuff like that. I can show you

962
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 3: the mark shows of Henepin County. We make up less

963
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 3: than ten percent of the rapists. Who's the other ninety percent?

964
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 3: Turning Point won't show you that because that's not the

965
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,919
Speaker 3: angle they want you to go. It's called narratives. I'm

966
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 3: a narrative specialist. I take narrative and you can weaponize it,

967
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 3: or you can use it for logical reasons. May I

968
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 3: use it for logical reason because what I believe in

969
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 3: is bringing people together, like you and like Tanna, Turning

970
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 3: Point and many other segments aroud here they're weaponizing narrative,

971
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 3: they're creating as them. They've gone purists, they become wok

972
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 3: now Marga. That is one thread. There's the three People's

973
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 3: Movement in MAGA. There's the economics section, there is the

974
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 3: foreign policy section, and there is people who just see

975
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 3: hope in change, because whatever is we had going on

976
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 3: for the last thirty years, sixty years is the death

977
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 3: of John Kennedy. Assassination has been a uniparty format, elected

978
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 3: Republican of Democrats were getting the same treatment as with

979
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 3: the people. And we've seen living standards go down since

980
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 3: the sixties, where a single honor could basically feed a family.

981
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 3: Look at Homer Simpson. I watched cartoons. Man, I make cartoons.

982
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 3: Homos Simpson nineteen eighty nine was working at what a

983
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 3: nuclear plant? Mister Tanner, So I'm sorry, I was reading

984
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 3: Homer Simpson the cartoons.

985
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,919
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you worked at the Springfield Nuclear Plant.

986
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 3: Springfield Nuclear Plant under mister Burns, who was a money pincher,

987
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 3: billionaire and a billionaire gave him a job and he

988
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 3: could raise who much? But and he could raise how

989
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 3: many other kids? Even he put his father in a

990
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:57,439
Speaker 3: group home. Single in Commander nineteen eighty nine, My friend,

991
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 3: that's when Simpsons came out as a format. Until in

992
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 3: nine we had that hope. Today we walked two three

993
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 3: jobs and we still can't make it in America. That's

994
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 3: the NNAMA. Now we see hope in Marga because change

995
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 3: exactly we see. Trump was the agent of chaos last time.

996
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 3: I told you that. And the kills we want is

997
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 3: a reordering. What we're seeing is between the one percent

998
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 3: and the government. They're taking ninety five cents to the dollar.

999
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 3: We aren a nickelout here, all of us are, and

1000
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 3: we're splitting a nicols.

1001
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: And that really is something that can unify us, is

1002
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: that we are all equally pressured economically. We're equally pressured.

1003
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: Our health, our longevity is in decline. So many systems

1004
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: are not serving the people. And then when you weaponize

1005
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: the differences between the people, you focus everybody on fighting

1006
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 1: instead of uniting. And that's what you do. Just said,

1007
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: I am interested because I personally this is me speaking

1008
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: my own personal political perspective. The surveillance state is here,

1009
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: the digitization of my life is here, the monetization of

1010
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: my life is here. I don't like that, and I

1011
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: want to find a commonality amongst all people that don't

1012
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: want to be reduced to inventory and want to maintain

1013
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: their human dignity. And if we don't come together as

1014
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: communities and get involved in political action, So this is

1015
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: another thing I think, and I'm going to say this

1016
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: to people that are listening to me, because a lot

1017
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: of people that listen to me know that I'm doing

1018
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: this with intent that I'm trying to I'm not. We're

1019
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: doing it. We have a political action community. We're getting involved.

1020
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: We want people to go to Caucus. We're having our

1021
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: next meeting and you're invited this next September tenth that

1022
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: Devani's on Highway seven. We're bringing people together to do

1023
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: what to create a politics which is unifying. So what

1024
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 1: you're saying about turning point is that they're weaponizing different.

1025
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 3: Culturious and I welcome that war. And the main reason

1026
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 3: why we welcome that war is because we want to

1027
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 3: define what is an America? Is it this color, maybe

1028
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 3: that color. Is it a different sexuality, is it a

1029
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 3: different flag? All I know is red, white and blue. Freedom,

1030
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 3: liberty isn't right.

1031
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: But the people are hearing you, but they don't believe you.

1032
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: That's the issue.

1033
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 3: It's the beautiful part. I don't need you to believe me.

1034
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: Go ahead, great, that's because you're living your life as

1035
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: an American.

1036
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 3: But suit of happiness, we are happy. If it makes

1037
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 3: you happy. Not believing me, we welcome it. We say shallow.

1038
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 1: So you know So what about what about the allegation

1039
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: that and you spoke to it. You said that when

1040
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: Muslim people come into a community, when they're in a minority,

1041
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: they spread their population. Have you said, too many babies,

1042
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: and when they get to the point that they are

1043
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: in a majority Sharia law.

1044
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 3: That's that's the fear. We're talking about five percent population

1045
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 3: of America. So the ninety five percent in having babies,

1046
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 3: the ninety five percent doesn't have faith. America is two

1047
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 3: hundred arty three million Christians. We're talking five million Muslims.

1048
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 3: They see the same thing of the Jews use the

1049
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 3: same population five million in America.

1050
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: Oh well, that's actually also on the table for the

1051
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 1: same it's the same, it's the same, it's.

1052
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 3: The same playbook as the ells of Protocols of Zion. Basically,

1053
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 3: they just flip the Protocol of Zion two Protocol of Islam. Well,

1054
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 3: it's fear mongering fear. Now here's another thing I'll tell you.

1055
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 3: If that's the case, then the LGBTI community is seven

1056
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 3: point two percent of the population.

1057
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 1: We're legging behind.

1058
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 3: They're going to take over this country. Man. So basically,

1059
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 3: what defines an American is the question that we need

1060
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,439
Speaker 3: to ask ourselves. Is it your color, is it your kid,

1061
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 3: is it your religion? Or is it that constitution which

1062
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 3: binds me to you? Because me and you have nothing

1063
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 3: in common. Me and Charlie cac nothing in common. Is

1064
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 3: white and black. I'm Africa. It's Christian and Muslim. Nothing

1065
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 3: in common. He's allowed I'm allowed to so that one

1066
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 3: maybe we have in common. But at the end of

1067
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 3: the day, what buys me to him?

1068
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 1: Constitution of the United States of.

1069
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 3: America, Light, white and blue. That's it.

1070
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: So then we get into it and you.

1071
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 3: Buy something from me? Can I sell you something? Can

1072
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 3: we do business? Can you pay taxes?

1073
01:02:59,640 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 4: Do?

1074
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 3: Look? My nephew is Air Force Special Forces. He's defending

1075
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 3: Talcak's family. My niece is a Marine. My other niece

1076
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 3: is Air Force Intelligence Spook. My brother in law is

1077
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 3: a captain. I got cousins in the police force.

1078
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: I'm a little older than you. I had one uncle

1079
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: fought his way up Italy. I had a cousin fought

1080
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: in World War Two. I mean I had all the

1081
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: Because Jewish people do the same thing. They went in

1082
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: the military. It established in their own hearts and amongst

1083
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: their family members. The allegiance. I mean, if you're willing

1084
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 1: to die for a country, I mean, come on, that

1085
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: says what your loyalty is for.

1086
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 3: What you care about is are you shooting that way

1087
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Speaker 3: or are you shooting at me? I don't care about your sexuality.

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Speaker 3: You could be green with pink blood. We don't care

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Speaker 3: as long as our mission is this on how mission

1090
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 3: is America now hate me like me? That's not in

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Speaker 3: the constitution.

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Speaker 1: Your point, Your point is that they're how many Christians

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01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 1: did you say in the country? And we got seven

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01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: percent l g B hottiest l lgbt Q plus yeah,

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01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: seven percent, we got about okay, we got Jews and

1096
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: Muslims are about the same.

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Speaker 3: Were less than that.

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Speaker 1: So you add up those three groups which are under

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Speaker 1: a lot of because the Jews now are getting older. Man,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you, I get I get on my ax

1101
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: woo woo. I have people really they first of all,

1102
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: they're not listening to all my podcasts because they don't

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01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 1: really understand who I am. And I get the most

1104
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 1: cruel comments sometimes from people, and I go, wow. So

1105
01:04:56,440 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: Jewish people have because of the Israel thing, and the

1106
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 1: national perception of Israel is changing, particularly as you go

1107
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 1: into the younger people. Tanner and I talked about it

1108
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 1: on a recent podcast that people Tanner's age, they're not

1109
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: willing to go die for Israel and that's a big change.

1110
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: So we got you know, are Jews really Americans? Well,

1111
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: Jewish people think they're Americans. That's what they say. But

1112
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 1: I'm just going to say, and I'm going to tell

1113
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: you that. Let me talk for a second because I

1114
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 1: had an ex friend of mine, wasn't my choice to

1115
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: be an ex friend. He called me and he said,

1116
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: you're friends with Royce White. Lose my telephone number? And

1117
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: you know, I thought to myself and I texted him.

1118
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I don't lose friends over ideological issues.

1119
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 1: These are ideological political issues. This is not a reason

1120
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 1: Nope doesn't ever want to talk to me again. Why

1121
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 1: Because he's an ardent Zionist. He has a daughter living

1122
01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 1: in Israel and any questioning of the Zionis project for him.

1123
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to tell him this because

1124
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: he wasn't listening threatens his security. And I'm going to

1125
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: tell you and share with you. Then. This is speaking

1126
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 1: to ilhan Omar and her comments about Somalia and there's

1127
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 1: people that are gonna hate me for saying this, and

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01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 1: go ahead and hate me, because I'm just like you,

1129
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 1: hate me, love me whatever. I'm searching for the truth.

1130
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 1: Having grown up in the Jewish community, speaking Hebrew, reading Hebrew,

1131
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 1: praying in Hebrew. There's a lot of American Jews that

1132
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: their loyalty to America is attached to their loyalty to Israel.

1133
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 1: No different than what ilhan Omar was saying in that clip.

1134
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 1: And I think the Jewish community is under the same

1135
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: kind of scrutiny. Now, what is America? What are your loyalties?

1136
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 1: Are your loyalties to Israel? Are you Israel first? Are

1137
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 1: you an American first? And I said to this ex

1138
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 1: friend of mine, he ended the friendship because he claims

1139
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 1: he's MEGA. And I said, well, if you're America first,

1140
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 1: you're America first. And he said, well no, because the

1141
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: interest of American Israel is the same same interest. And

1142
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of people that don't believe

1143
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: that anymore. Things are changing. And I tell the story.

1144
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 1: You know, I have cousins that are on the West Bank,

1145
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: Karinoozi's and I always felt guilty because I wasn't there

1146
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 1: willing to die with them. I had that feeling like,

1147
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you're not really putting it on

1148
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 1: the line like your family members are. And then one

1149
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 1: day I woke up and I realized that my great

1150
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 1: uncle went to Israel because he went to the fight.

1151
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 1: He wanted that fight, or maybe they paid him to

1152
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 1: go there. I don't know, but I know my grandfather

1153
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: came to the United States because he wanted economic freedom,

1154
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 1: religious freedom, and he didn't want to spend his life

1155
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: fighting to survive. He'd already been doing that in the Ukraine.

1156
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: He was done with that. He wanted freedom. And I

1157
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 1: suddenly found myself, Wow, I'm not embarrassed anymore about being

1158
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 1: an American. I'm blessed to be an American. I'm blessed

1159
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: to be born here into this constitution which protects mind rights.

1160
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 1: If I'm in the minority, I have protections because this

1161
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 1: is a republican country. That's another thing we don't understand.

1162
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: We live in a republic. From the philosophy of republicanism,

1163
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 1: we protect minority rights. That's the essence of republicanism is

1164
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 1: the protection of individual rights. So any political movement that

1165
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: seeks to remove the rights of any American citizen. Well,

1166
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: we've gone whoa, haven't we. That's what you're saying.

1167
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 3: You're going to go out of Paul so fast hand

1168
01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 3: it will be swingy us the Democrats to them. And

1169
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,600
Speaker 3: what happened when people went so wuk. You have to

1170
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 3: understand we have friends, we have aurahs, we have partners.

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01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 1: Well what we want, what I want? What I want

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01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 1: as an American community that is dedicated. I mean, I

1173
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: read the Torah. I mean I I live by some

1174
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 1: of those stories narratives, but the most important narrative I

1175
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:29,600
Speaker 1: live by, the one that I'm loyalist, most loyal to

1176
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 1: is a Constitution of the of the United States of

1177
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:36,600
Speaker 1: America and the Declaration of Independence. That's what I'm standing on.

1178
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 1: That's why I'm doing this podcast. And I'm born Jewish.

1179
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 1: So for the people of you that call me a kike,

1180
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 1: which I get all the time, I haven't had somebody

1181
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: called me the N word, which I can't say, but

1182
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like, well, I thought, well that's

1183
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 1: kind of complimentary, thanks very much. But my point is,

1184
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 1: you know, I get this virulent anti Semitic.

1185
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 3: You know, it's not I most us are getting it

1186
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 3: today across the planet.

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01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. But you know, my point is I'm an American

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01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 1: citizen and I'm completely dedicated to the well being of

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01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: American citizens. So we're missing some Uh. You know, hatred

1190
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 1: is a broad sword, it's a broad sort. You know,

1191
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 1: love takes a scalpel. You got to work closely with

1192
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 1: people to get to know them, to make relationships with them.

1193
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 1: I don't judge people just based on what their skin

1194
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 1: color is or what their religion is. I'm looking for

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Speaker 1: people that love this country, and I get that sense

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01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 1: from you. I don't think you're getting around. But the

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01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 1: question is how many Somalis are like you? Do you

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01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 1: have a movement in the smalli community. This is is

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Speaker 1: this a widespread phenomenon where people are actually assimilating, where

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01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 1: they are actually integrating into the Minnesota community.

1201
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 3: So we have to define what assimilation means.

1202
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Speaker 1: First, tell me what you think it means.

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01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 3: A similation means basically, you adhere to the Constitution in

1204
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 3: the United States of America. You obey the laws. You

1205
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 3: don't do that, you keep peace, you get peace, and

1206
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 3: more importantly, you're doing what you're supposed to do. That's it.

1207
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 3: We took an oath when all of us became citizens.

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01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 3: Our young kids who were born here are born here

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01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 3: the American How.

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01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,799
Speaker 1: Long is that oath? Do you know that oath? Oh?

1211
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 3: The oath is basically you are taking an allegiance and

1212
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:29,839
Speaker 3: basically give up on any potent, any principality, any princely

1213
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 3: in loyalty, and you take an oath to the United

1214
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 3: States of America. You discard all your previous allegiances. And

1215
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 3: if the United States military calls you any service or

1216
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,480
Speaker 3: any forces, or the government asked you to come participate

1217
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 3: in any national level, you sign up and second parties.

1218
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:54,759
Speaker 3: And it's most important to defend against domestic and foreign enemies.

1219
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 3: Domestic and foreign enemies.

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Speaker 1: That's in the US.

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01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 3: That's what every new citizen swears to. Viveka seeing every

1222
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 3: American child, so swear to that running for Ohio. I mean,

1223
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, what happens is an

1224
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 3: oath is an oath. And some of us take our

1225
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 3: oath seriously. I mean I do.

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01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 1: The more religious you are, the more you're going to

1227
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 1: take you seriously.

1228
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 3: Yes, I do.

1229
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 1: And the other thing that people don't know if if

1230
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 1: you haven't been through this process, which I have been

1231
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 1: close and I've observed it. You have to take a

1232
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 1: fairly in depth civics course, a study of American civics,

1233
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 1: how our government works, what's the history. And you have

1234
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 1: to pass a test before you can take the oath.

1235
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 1: And I'm going to tell you I know this for fact.

1236
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:48,520
Speaker 1: If you take a hundred American citizens off the street

1237
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 1: and you ask them to pass that test, you're not

1238
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: going to get a very high percentage of people that

1239
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 1: are going to make it.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine my mother took it. He can't read

1241
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 3: and write beyond first grade level, and she is.

1242
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 1: Boy, she had to work really hard to get that.

1243
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,679
Speaker 3: It took us six months of training.

1244
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 1: She really wanted to be an American citizen, didn't she.

1245
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:16,600
Speaker 3: Now you ask me, what is a simulation, CHARLIECC What

1246
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 3: is a simulation? These folks were saying, so Mali, this,

1247
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,799
Speaker 3: so Malid, that Muslim, this Muslim that less bound? The religion?

1248
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 3: Is America religion? Or is it an idea?

1249
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: Oh it's an idea? No, America is an idea?

1250
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 3: Is American ethno issue? Or is it a multi everything?

1251
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:38,879
Speaker 1: America is a multi everything?

1252
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 3: Is America about prosperity for all? Economically, we'd like it

1253
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 3: to be well, if you work hard enough, you can

1254
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 3: get it. That's why half the ward he is trying

1255
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 3: to get into here, and we had open borders the

1256
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 3: last four years. They nearly made it, you know, seriously.

1257
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 3: But what I'm trying to tell you is Charlie Kak

1258
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 3: has been asking this question for months now, what is

1259
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 3: an American? And he's saying taking pictures of so many

1260
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 3: people and saying are these Americans?

1261
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to tell you here in Minnesota.

1262
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:18,639
Speaker 3: That starting point USA.

1263
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 1: But here in Minnesota. One of the issues that is

1264
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 1: because you said, Johann Omar, you love her because she

1265
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 1: was successful, it's an American success story. But you say

1266
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 1: she's hurting the Somali community. Okay, the fraud and the

1267
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:41,440
Speaker 1: issues that are associated with the everyday life of this community.

1268
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 1: How that's being linked to the Somalian community. That's a

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01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 1: problem for Minnesotan's that I would like you to address

1270
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: because I'm going to tell you right now, I know

1271
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 1: that fraud is not limited. When I see the spotlight

1272
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 1: grow in one group of people, I'm saying, Okay, what

1273
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 1: kind of scam is this? Because now somebody is the

1274
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 1: fall guy in a seventy six billion dollar budget. So

1275
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:15,759
Speaker 1: I know this fraud extends far beyond the Somali community,

1276
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 1: but it is in the spotlight right now.

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01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 3: It is not only in the spotlight. For the next

1278
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 3: two years, all you'll hear about is fraud with the

1279
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 3: Somali community. You've heard of feeding her future.

1280
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 1: I have heard of it. Hard to be in Minnesota

1281
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 1: and not here.

1282
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 3: Fifty million so far. Yeah, that's what we know of.

1283
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 3: The question is who signed the check? DHS the interim

1284
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 3: Attorney General, really nice, pretty decent guy. He said a

1285
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 3: billion dollars is missing that we know of. The FBI

1286
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 3: knows of a billion dollars. The question is they will

1287
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 3: want tim administration, the Attorney General's office, Keith Ellison, all

1288
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 3: the way down to the departments and the agencies. We

1289
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 3: won't a year ago, and they still kept on writing

1290
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 3: the checks. Fall guy, Please the push us an the bus. Now.

1291
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 3: You know, when I'm Dolly's missing here, someone else is

1292
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 3: walking away with ten On the other side, Well, I

1293
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 3: have and somebody else would turn up in the evening

1294
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 3: news and we're blocked mostly immigrants. We're good for it,

1295
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,879
Speaker 3: but you have to also understand defense.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me just say before I hold that thought,

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Speaker 1: because I'm going to tell you a story that really

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Speaker 1: stuck in my craw. We had this big financial crisis.

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Speaker 1: You know, Tanner, you're too young to remember this, but

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Speaker 1: the whole system almost collapsed in two thousand and seven

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Speaker 1: and eight, the Great Financial Crisis, and.

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Speaker 3: These people housing bubble.

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Speaker 1: The people that were involved in that ran away with

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Speaker 1: billions of dollars. It wasn't two hundred and fifty million.

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Speaker 3: And we limo one.

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Speaker 1: One person became the poster child of that entire financial crisis,

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Speaker 1: and that was Bernie made Off. Bernie made off, made

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Speaker 1: off with the cash. He was Jewish, and they put

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Speaker 1: his face all over everywhere as the big robber baron

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Speaker 1: that had stolen from the people, and everybody looked at

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Speaker 1: Bernie made Off, and man, people did make off with

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Speaker 1: hundreds of times more money than and you know what,

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Speaker 1: it's not even clear what happened with his deal. It's

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Speaker 1: not as clear as people think it is. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not defending him. I'm just saying when someone had a hang,

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Speaker 1: they hung a Jewish guy obviously looked Jewish, was Jewish,

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Speaker 1: and he's the one that went to jail. And I

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Speaker 1: think one of his sons committed suicide. It was a

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Speaker 1: horrible situation. But they didn't get to all the other

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Speaker 1: people that robbed installed. Why should they, but we had

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Speaker 1: we had the sacrificial lamb mm.

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Speaker 3: Somebody is good for the evening use and in this case,

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Speaker 3: it's called a suckers.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So in Minnesota, what I'm.

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Speaker 3: Saying to believe me, I'm not going to defend these

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Speaker 3: people because these people went on a looting spree.

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Speaker 1: But I'm saying there's other people on looting sprees and this,

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Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, Let's let's get them all.

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Speaker 3: Most slim black Boston is stealing a dolla, you better

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Speaker 3: believe if someone else is stealing telling because because.

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Speaker 1: Not doing his wide open well that that's an interesting

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Speaker 1: point my anger at the political class. And I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna just say Kristin Robbins, who's running for governor, who

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01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 1: I just you know, tried to expose some of her.

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01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 1: It's not the soccer mom she claims she is. You know,

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Speaker 1: she's the charge on the anti fraud front.

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Speaker 3: She was the chairman of Anti fat Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know what, when you pass a bill, even if

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01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 1: you're the minority party. Because the Republicans were not in

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01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 1: the majority. And let's say every Republican voted against some

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01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 1: of these bills that open this gate for fraud. And

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Speaker 1: that's not true because some of the Republicans voted for

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Speaker 1: those bills. We can go look it up. It's not

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Speaker 1: easy to look up these votes, but you can look

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01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 1: them up. You know, if you're a business person, if

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Speaker 1: you purport to be a business person and you're in

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01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 1: the Minnesota state legislature and you're not in power, and

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01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 1: a bill gets passed and you read the bill, that's

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Speaker 1: the first question. Did you read the bill and you

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01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 1: read something like, well, to get these payments, you got

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01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 1: to watch a half hour video. Wouldn't that tell me,

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01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 1: because I'm a business person that that's not a very

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01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 1: good vetting process. That's not a great control system for

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01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 1: the money. So you don't have to be Kristen. You

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01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 1: don't have to be so proud of screaming that the

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01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 1: cow ran out of the pasture. The idea was to

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Speaker 1: keep the cow in the pasture before it all got robbed.

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Speaker 1: And you don't have to be in power to start

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01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 1: banging pots and pans, as you were saying a year

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Speaker 1: before the government knew that this robbing was going.

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Speaker 3: On, we gotta, I gotta, I gotta hold you because

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Speaker 3: Christie's a friend. I like her, and I like her

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Speaker 3: because she's active, and I like old Republicans. As long

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01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 3: as you got an odd behind you, I like you.

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01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 3: I told you I'm a big tell Republican.

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Speaker 1: Well we differ in that, but that's okay.

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Speaker 3: We can argue and be different because at the end

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Speaker 3: of the day, you're speaking your truth and I'm speaking.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you the truth I'm speaking. I

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01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 1: don't even think about Democrats and Republicans. To me, that

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Speaker 1: is what you call the UNI party. You're looking for

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01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 1: this big tent. I'm saying you're a globalist and you're

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01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:59,600
Speaker 1: involved in globalist structures, which is gonna lead us to

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Speaker 1: one word, old government, the surveillance state, and the end

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Speaker 1: of human freedom. So or you're not. I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: either get either coming from the people or you're not.

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Speaker 3: Let's break that down.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Last eight years, the House was controlled by Democrats, the

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Speaker 3: Senate was controlled by Democrats. The governor was a Democrat. Yes,

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Speaker 3: Republicans couldn't put two pennies together. They couldn't even get

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Speaker 3: their pots and punts together. We were losing. You know

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Speaker 3: why we were losing.

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01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 1: Well, had a lot of my own theories. Why would

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01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 1: I like to hear yours?

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01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 3: Mine is because we went too pure, We went too

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01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:43,640
Speaker 3: far and alienated the rest of Minnesota. They looked reasonable,

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01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 3: the Democrats did. But let's look at the governance that

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Speaker 3: we got eighteen billion dollars surplus. God spent like a drunkard.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say a drunken sailor, because even a drunken

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Speaker 3: sale has a budget.

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Speaker 1: Let's not give drunken salors a bad name.

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Speaker 3: No, you're insulting them now, like Ronald Reagan said, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean, That's where I steal the jokes from.

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01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:09,599
Speaker 3: And I'm a Reagan I thrown through. But what I'm

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01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 3: trying to tell you is they put ten billion dollars

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Speaker 3: on the on the books in taxes, new taxes from

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Speaker 3: gasoline to businesses. Business is a bolting government, a soda.

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Speaker 3: Who's gonna hire people? It doesn't matter you, it's not.

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01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:28,800
Speaker 3: So they came with a bright idea and they say

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Speaker 3: we're going to increase government by forty percent. We're going

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Speaker 3: to hire people. Now, who's gonna pay for that forty percent?

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01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:37,759
Speaker 3: Increasing government in the last.

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Speaker 1: Eight years, the last of us who are working.

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Speaker 3: The rest of us who are working, and more importantly,

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Speaker 3: what does that lead to a five billion dollar epicit

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Speaker 3: in government? And then now we're hearing a billion maybe two.

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Speaker 3: And I know for a fact when they say, when

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Speaker 3: the government tells you a billion disappeared, they undercount money

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Speaker 3: be seen you. And I know that's common sense. They

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Speaker 3: never do audits out here. When they brought up the

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Speaker 3: question of vocating an independent investigator, an auditing department, and

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Speaker 3: she championed it, and a lot of people in the

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Speaker 3: state and the House championed it. Every single Democrat voted

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01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 3: against it. Put the blamew it belongs.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm a Republican and I can't influence Democrats

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01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 1: at all. They don't care, they don't even they don't

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Speaker 1: even talk to me. Look, my interest is the Republican Party,

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01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 1: the Republican party, that the essence of Republicanism is anti corruption.

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01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 1: And my comment is this, if you're a business person

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01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 1: and you read the bill and you have no power,

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01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 1: which is they couldn't even put two pennies together, you

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01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 1: still have a microphone, you still have the papers, you

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01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 1: still are elected. If you see an open door for fraud,

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01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 1: talk about it before the fraud happens. They didn't do that.

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01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 1: They let it go.

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Speaker 3: H they were shouting.

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01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 1: No, they weren't shouting. They shouted after.

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Speaker 3: It was shouting. Unfortunately, nobody has them. I was like,

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01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 3: it was like a tree that fell in the forest.

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Speaker 1: I didn't question is I'm in the party. I didn't hear.

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01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 3: I am a junkey to this stuff.

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Speaker 1: You want to know something if people, I mean, I've

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01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: been at many meetings with Representative Robins. She never talked

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01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 1: about the fraud that could happen in the state. I

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01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 1: was there at the meetings. I know these people. I've

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01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 1: been doing this for years. I only heard about fraud

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01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 1: after the fraud had occurred. If you're a business person

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01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 1: and you see legislation that opens the gate for fraud,

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01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 1: call it out. We don't have to wait because that's

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01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 1: the people's money. They are there to protect the people.

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01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 1: They're not protecting the people, or the fraud will never happened.

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01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 1: That's my opinion, and that that's where I'm going to still.

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01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 3: Have a government that is today divided with the governing

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01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 3: in charge not from your party. You're limited in powers.

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01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 3: There's a reality to being a Republican, a constitutional democratic society.

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01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 1: There's a limit to political power, but there's not a

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01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 1: limit to ideational power. That's courage to call out problems

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01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 1: before they happen. You don't have to have political power

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01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:24,760
Speaker 1: to I have no political power, and I'm speaking out.

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01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 1: The word matters. What people say matters.

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01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 3: Now, people like Paul Wickstrom ran on Antiff Road. I

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01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 3: know a lot of people want to Hutson Mockcurran. I

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01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 3: mean I can go on naming names. He or they

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01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 3: out of Niska. I mean, these people were yelling, nobody

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01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 3: had them. It's like a tree fell in the forest.

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01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 1: Why did nobody hear them?

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01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 3: Because nobody paid attention in America, our attention Spanish. This one.

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01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to just say I've been to a

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Speaker 1: lot of Republican Party meetings for a lot of years,

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Speaker 1: and I only heard anybody talk about fraud or the

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Speaker 1: potential for fraud after the fraud had happened. That's my experience.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I was at the wrong meetings, maybe I read

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Speaker 1: the wrong newspapers. I'm not saying that I'm correct. I'm

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01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 1: just reflecting my own experience. I would like it to

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Speaker 1: be in the future. It doesn't matter if they're Democrats

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01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 1: or Republicans. If there's something in legislation that is against

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01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 1: the will of the people, against the well being of

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01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 1: the people, you don't have to have power to call

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Speaker 1: that out. You know, I've got a citizen here in

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Speaker 1: Minnesota that's and I hope he hears me say this.

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01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he has been abused by the system, and

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Speaker 1: he's trying to get some redress for his grievance because

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Speaker 1: here in America we can address, we can approach the

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01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 1: government for a redress of our grievances. And he's not

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01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:04,679
Speaker 1: getting any traction with his representatives. You know, if we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a political class that is dedicated to the

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Speaker 1: well being of the people, these people are gonna have

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Speaker 1: to be out with the people and they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to protect the people. That's why I let these people

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01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:19,800
Speaker 1: to protect my interests. So my interests were not protected.

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01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 1: That's just the way it is. There's a lot of

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01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 1: issues that get pushed around, like a football Fraud's a

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01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 1: great issue. Look at these people they robbed us. Don't

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01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 1: let them rob us guns. Now we got a gun issue.

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01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:35,639
Speaker 1: We're gonna fight back and forth. What a great money

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01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 1: reason issue this is guns. Got the anti gun lobby,

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01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 1: you got the pro gun lobby. They're gonna collect cash

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01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 1: like crazy, none of the So so.

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Speaker 3: The person interviewed yesterday where about all the mayors came

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01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 3: together and they said we needed in a national barn,

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01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 3: take away everybody's guns.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about that?

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01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 4: Me?

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01:27:53,400 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you well, I'll only own one gun. The rest

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Speaker 3: of us that existed, Trust me, we ain't giving it up.

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Speaker 3: And the reason why we ain't giving it up is

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01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 3: because we don't believe in benovalent government. We can don't

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Speaker 3: believe in what benovalent government. There's no grateful, benovolent government.

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Speaker 1: There's no benevolent government.

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Speaker 3: I got an accent. You said it better.

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01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying it because I want everybody to hear what

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01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 1: you said. And obviously from where you're from, we've seen

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01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 1: you understand what happens.

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01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 3: Look, I'm a double in history. Look at every society

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01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 3: where they took away the guns. Look what happened to

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Speaker 3: Australia when they took away their guns during the COVID

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Speaker 3: shat we're still having recover till today.

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Speaker 1: Look at China.

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01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:49,760
Speaker 3: When Mao took away all the guns. What happened to

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01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 3: the Cultural revolution? What happened after the Cultural Revolution? You

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01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 3: are a Chinese expert.

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01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 1: What happened is is people conform?

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01:28:57,439 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 3: And how many millions died.

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Speaker 1: Depends who you talk to. At least sixty million, and

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01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 1: if you throw in the one child policy abortions, maybe

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Speaker 1: four hundred million.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Look what Stalin when he took away the guns from.

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Speaker 1: The Russians untold millions?

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01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:18,800
Speaker 3: I'm in a good life? Did he create because they

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01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 3: didn't fit in well?

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01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:22,719
Speaker 1: And famines and all the other things that are.

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01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 3: From from Ukraine, Voldorov all the way up to what

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01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:29,520
Speaker 3: they were doing in other areas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's important that we have our own as citizens.

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Speaker 1: This is one of the great things about America. This

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Speaker 1: is a fundamentally, you know, this is a fundamental thing.

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01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:43,639
Speaker 1: He grew up and I grew up in a gun culture. Yeah,

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01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 1: he grew up. I mean everybody has family hunts. We

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01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 1: grew up. We have a country. You see, if you're

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01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 1: a hunter, it's beyond just going on shooting. No, it's

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01:29:54,280 --> 01:30:00,759
Speaker 1: about self sufficiency, independence, It's about being se self governing.

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01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 1: And you know, of course, when you have a self

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01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 1: governing people. It's tough to manage that. A lot of

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01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:09,800
Speaker 1: management has to go into self governance. You have to

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01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:13,639
Speaker 1: actually respond to the needs of your constituents. They don't

1537
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 1: have to do that in China. It's top down, top down.

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01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 3: The Second Amendment protects the First Amendment. Take away your guns,

1539
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:25,640
Speaker 3: they'll take away your speech. No if no, but no.

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01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 1: Underbudy, you know, you can be very good on gun legislation.

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01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:35,759
Speaker 1: You can have a history of being top on guns,

1542
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:39,920
Speaker 1: top on taxation. You can be top on every Republican issue.

1543
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:44,439
Speaker 1: And it's a disguise. This is what I'm calling out

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01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 1: right now, and it's not specific to what you called

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01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 1: Christy Robbins. The Republican Party is based on the philosophy

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01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 1: of Republicanism that's about self governance, one hundred percent about

1547
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 1: self governance. Any organization, any group of people that come

1548
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:10,600
Speaker 1: together to create internationalist structures that manage people as inventory

1549
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 1: are in opposition to Republicanism. If we're going to maintain

1550
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 1: the character of this country, it's up to each individual

1551
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:27,200
Speaker 1: citizen to self governed, self defense, self health, personal health regulation,

1552
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 1: economic independence. We have to maintain that. That is, and

1553
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm not going to blame Christy Robbins or any other politician.

1554
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:40,559
Speaker 1: They're reflecting our own as American citizens, our own giving

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01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 1: up of what it is to be an American back

1556
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:44,879
Speaker 1: to what it is to be an American.

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01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:47,679
Speaker 3: Well, the beautiful party is they got to get elected,

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01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 3: and to get elected a true person is not a

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01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:58,600
Speaker 3: fetist because you have to win the most swinging community

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01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:02,760
Speaker 3: called independence. These are swingers going from one party to

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01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 3: one other part?

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01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 1: Are you're talking about election talking about elections? Is there

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01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:07,959
Speaker 1: election fraud in the smaller community?

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01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 3: M That has yet to be proven, but I do

1565
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 3: know Marvata's brother in law got got arrested for that.

1566
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 3: I mean, he got probation for it. That's the closest

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01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 3: I've seen of election fraud. In terms of election fraud

1568
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:25,200
Speaker 3: through the mail, A gentleman tried to expose it, and

1569
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:30,160
Speaker 3: the Project writers Jonah Kieffs did a story on it

1570
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:36,000
Speaker 3: and uh basically went viral again last week because he

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01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 3: posted it again and again, show me proof. But what

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01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:46,559
Speaker 3: I do know is is it happening. I believe all

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01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:51,599
Speaker 3: male order ballots is fraud, all of it across this country.

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Speaker 1: You got nothing to do with any specific community.

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01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 3: No, Because if you look at countries like Russia and

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01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 3: many Western European countries. They call it floud.

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01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:03,599
Speaker 1: They don't let it happen.

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01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:06,720
Speaker 3: They don't really happen though, because people were stealing elections.

1579
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 1: With it, so they all law it.

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01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:12,920
Speaker 3: They outlawed it. Many countries in the world, outlawed many fascinations,

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01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:15,880
Speaker 3: First World democracies in the world. I'm not saying Russia is.

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01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:18,240
Speaker 1: At the boo no France all, but I mean.

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01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:22,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, if French basically say no, at least is the

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01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 3: egality fraterality alba te people. What about US Americas? Are

1585
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 3: we that stupid?

1586
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 1: Well, apparently we are that stupid because we're letting this

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Speaker 1: go on. And this goes back to what you said earlier,

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01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:41,720
Speaker 1: what we've been talking about. You know, smaller community has

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01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:45,040
Speaker 1: been here since the really forties, but really with numbers

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01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:47,759
Speaker 1: since the nineties, thirty years, right.

1591
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:50,160
Speaker 3: And no baby steps fresh off the boat.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and now you got a congressional District five congresswoman.

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01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 1: You got there's a Omar fatakould end up being the

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01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 1: mayor of Minneapolis. This takes political organizing. Yet the population

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01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 1: is one hundred thousand on seven million.

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01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 3: Minneapolis has four hundred and thirty thousand.

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01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 1: Where is our political activity? You know, for all the

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01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 1: people that are Islama Islamophobic, woke phobic. I mean, you know,

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01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:22,479
Speaker 1: all you gotta do to have a voice is quit

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01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:25,600
Speaker 1: complaining and enjoining the Republican Party. And I'm going to

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01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 1: say this to you, and in defense of Kristin Robbins,

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01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:32,879
Speaker 1: I don't believe now Kristin Robbins was running Niki Haley's

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01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 1: campaign here, which to me, that's a disqualifier in and

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01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 1: of itself.

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01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 3: But let's Nikki Haley was a governor and she served well,

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01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:46,760
Speaker 3: and she turned around the state. She's competent executive. She

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01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:50,920
Speaker 3: went against Trump. I understand that she is to the

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01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 3: right of Israel. I understand that. But at the end

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01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:57,479
Speaker 3: of the day, Nikki Haley is a woman that made herselves.

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01:34:57,479 --> 01:34:58,479
Speaker 3: She's a self made rooman.

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Speaker 1: That's that's not the issue for me. The issue for

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01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:07,240
Speaker 1: me is she's an internationalist, and that international that America

1613
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 1: is the world's policeman. We have to define what being

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01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 1: an American is, what being America first is. Being America

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01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:17,040
Speaker 1: first means we don't want to be the world's And

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01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 1: I know you and I have discussed this. You're saying

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01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 1: if America doesn't do it, it's chaos.

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01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 3: If my niece on my nephew whose Air Force Special

1619
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:29,280
Speaker 3: Forces who basically jumps out of perfectly working place and

1620
01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 3: will shoot off your head because it's a reconnaissance sniper. Yes,

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01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:35,400
Speaker 3: if he's going to go out there and get killed

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01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:38,360
Speaker 3: for something, he better be for the flat. Better be

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01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:40,679
Speaker 3: for what this country? This country?

1624
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 1: Okay, well, this country is running a worldwide empire. And

1625
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:50,919
Speaker 1: what we're having this political fight is what is this country?

1626
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:53,720
Speaker 1: Back to the question what is it to be an American?

1627
01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 1: George Washington beware of foreign entanglements where we've drifted away.

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01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:04,759
Speaker 3: Last podcast, we talked about going into a new model

1629
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:09,520
Speaker 3: peace trade, some form of partnership.

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01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:12,000
Speaker 1: That's America first.

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01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 3: That's exactly the model that the Trump administration with j

1632
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:21,639
Speaker 3: D Evans Trump, Marco Ruby is spearing this like, that's not.

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01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:24,519
Speaker 1: What Nikki Haley spirit. She's different.

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01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 3: That's why she didn't win the primary. But that's the

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01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:29,879
Speaker 3: engages of chaos. I voted for Trump in the primary,

1636
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 3: and I went out to your canvas for Trump. But

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01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:33,760
Speaker 3: what I'm trying to tell you is the milicon why

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01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 3: she didn't win is because that didn't get traction because

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01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:37,000
Speaker 3: we're looking for something different.

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01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 1: That's okay, so we're agreeing about it.

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01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:41,640
Speaker 3: But but my point, we're talking about peace, trade, some

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01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 3: form of partners But we see it with Congo, we

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01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 3: see with Thailand, we see it with every other nation

1644
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:51,360
Speaker 3: out there. I mean, basically, we just created peace between Ukreate,

1645
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:55,960
Speaker 3: Armenia and a Baijan and we're doing trade with them.

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01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:58,639
Speaker 3: I mean a new corridor just came up, an energy

1647
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 3: corridor that basically is gonna make a lot of people rich.

1648
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 3: And at the same time too, America is gonna get it.

1649
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:06,799
Speaker 3: And here's what Trump is saying, same thing with Ukraine,

1650
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 3: is trying to create peace there and also try to

1651
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:14,320
Speaker 3: get business peace trade. America gets something out of this,

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01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 3: and we're not gonna go there and only the top

1653
01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 3: get it. If you gain, you know, all of us gain,

1654
01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:25,720
Speaker 3: and more importantly, some form of partnership. What that form

1655
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:29,760
Speaker 3: of partnership is depends. But what you're seeing is is

1656
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:36,559
Speaker 3: not deployments everywhere. What you're seeing is lesser footprint, more trade.

1657
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 3: America's business is business. The bloodline of a republic and

1658
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:47,240
Speaker 3: a democracy is business. For ideology, idealization, all this other

1659
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:52,800
Speaker 3: stuff don't hold food on the table, the business of

1660
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:53,759
Speaker 3: America's business.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so my comment I want to say in defense

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01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:01,360
Speaker 1: of Kristen Robbins and all the other the Minnesota Republicans

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01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:04,559
Speaker 1: that are Nikki Healy Republicans, Nikki Heally got more votes

1664
01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:07,240
Speaker 1: in Minnesota than she got in South Carolina because the

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01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:09,519
Speaker 1: South Carolina Carolinians knew who she was.

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01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 3: It was Makurubi who got votes.

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01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 1: But my point is this, for those of us that

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01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 1: are in the Republican Party, it is not my role

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01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:24,600
Speaker 1: to vet who is a Republican. I want everybody that

1670
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 1: wants to elect Republicans to come into the party. But

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01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 1: I want a straight up fair process in the party

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01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:36,040
Speaker 1: and let the people voted out. Let's determine through electoral

1673
01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:39,479
Speaker 1: process what it is to be an American. Let's determine

1674
01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:43,240
Speaker 1: through electoral process what assimilation means. But we can't do

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01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:46,600
Speaker 1: that if the people don't participate. See right now, we

1676
01:38:46,720 --> 01:38:49,400
Speaker 1: got a lot of people complaining, but they're not participating.

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01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:53,200
Speaker 1: They're hating, but they're not participating. We need them to

1678
01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 1: come into the process and we need to work this

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01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:58,760
Speaker 1: out as a community. So you know, when I have

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01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:01,840
Speaker 1: my meetings and someone comes in and they say, well,

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01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:05,400
Speaker 1: I supported my pants, but I want to be a Republican.

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01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:08,439
Speaker 1: My job is get that person in the party. That's

1683
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:12,400
Speaker 1: not my business too as a party officer to vet

1684
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 1: who's in the party. We want everyone in the party,

1685
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:19,400
Speaker 1: but we want to straight up fair vote so we

1686
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:22,920
Speaker 1: can determine what the party is. And right now somebody's

1687
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:26,880
Speaker 1: thumb is on the scale and that is not Republican.

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01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 3: Well you have to understand Roy just once say that

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01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:34,479
Speaker 3: I belong to no party, and I was talking about

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01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:36,720
Speaker 3: the Democrat Party. You know what I say when I

1691
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:39,439
Speaker 3: when I look at the Republican Party, it's a party

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01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:45,560
Speaker 3: of cut hardness. Of what cut hardness basically cuts going everywhere.

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01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:49,919
Speaker 3: I'm trying to hold them together. It is very difficult

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01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:52,880
Speaker 3: to do so because there's many threats to it. There's

1695
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 3: a Charlie Cox side, there's a cived Bonto side, there's

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01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 3: the macar Rubio side. There is I mean, I'm not Macarubia,

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01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:00,400
Speaker 3: I'm I mean, there.

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01:40:00,439 --> 01:40:02,280
Speaker 1: Is Senator Lindsey Graham's side.

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01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 3: Is the ground size it is, I mean, but all

1700
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 3: of us are big ten. We come together core lessing

1701
01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:12,400
Speaker 3: around one idea, and the idea is all of us

1702
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:13,679
Speaker 3: have a gripe against the government.

1703
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:17,040
Speaker 1: Okay, so what we need to do. We need to

1704
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:23,000
Speaker 1: have this fight, this ideological contest, until we find us

1705
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:23,960
Speaker 1: set ideas.

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01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:26,799
Speaker 3: We prefer to be left alone. More importantly, we prefer

1707
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:30,360
Speaker 3: less taxes. Think about this. You're born on the tribe,

1708
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:32,720
Speaker 3: you're born of the Hebrews. What did your people do

1709
01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:36,639
Speaker 3: when Pharaoh took a quart twenty five percent of your wealth?

1710
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:38,880
Speaker 1: Let my people go, Let your people go.

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01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:42,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, we pay forty percent in America. When are we

1712
01:40:42,439 --> 01:40:42,840
Speaker 3: going to get it?

1713
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:43,160
Speaker 5: Let go?

1714
01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:45,639
Speaker 1: I still say the same thing, Let my people go.

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01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:48,160
Speaker 3: When are we going to get Let go? When will

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01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:50,679
Speaker 3: you take? I say it before when they're taking ninety

1717
01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:53,240
Speaker 3: five cents to the dollar, what we're not asking for

1718
01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:57,080
Speaker 3: you to take? We say in stop being really, give

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Speaker 3: us a nickel more. We want to have a dime

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Speaker 3: because the cost of living is a die. We keep

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Speaker 3: the ninety cents.

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Speaker 1: If we need every person listening, and we don't need

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say my request. If we're going to work

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01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 1: this out in the country, it's going to because we

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01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 1: all get involved in working it out.

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Speaker 3: It's about economics. Everything else is just ideology. Ideology. Don't

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01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:27,640
Speaker 3: put food on the table. Ideology is what communists do.

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01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:31,280
Speaker 3: Ideology is what wark does. Whether you're on the right

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01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:34,439
Speaker 3: or the left, ideology is what divides you because it's

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01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:35,120
Speaker 3: a suck us.

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01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 1: So what you're saying is America needs to be unrigged,

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01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 1: so every American citizen has a chance to exercise economic

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Speaker 1: freedom and put food on the table.

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Speaker 3: I will walk with a Democrat even if you walk

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01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:52,400
Speaker 3: flaming blue. If you're interest is economics, if it's a

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01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:53,320
Speaker 3: hand up or not a.

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Speaker 1: Handout, that's called a new coalition. That's a new coalition.

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01:41:58,439 --> 01:42:01,960
Speaker 3: And guess what this is what people are fighting over.

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01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:06,560
Speaker 3: We see the country is evenly divided forty four Republican

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01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:09,360
Speaker 3: Democrat forty five, forty five.

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01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:10,080
Speaker 1: Got a few swingers in there, And you're going.

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01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:13,200
Speaker 3: To talk about that ten percent. That ten percent is

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01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:17,479
Speaker 3: the holy grade wherever they go that gets powered.

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Speaker 1: Well, we got to figure out how to market to

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01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:20,479
Speaker 1: those people.

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01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:23,160
Speaker 3: When you can't marketed or being woken on the left

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01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:25,800
Speaker 3: or being woke on the right, you alienate both. So

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01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:27,639
Speaker 3: that's why most don't vote.

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Speaker 1: So what your your theory, the case is, let's be

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01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:33,719
Speaker 1: talking about the kitchen table issues and making the economic

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01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:37,720
Speaker 1: life of every American citizen free, so every person has

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01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:41,280
Speaker 1: a chance to live a good economic.

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Speaker 3: Give me bread and butta any day, give me bread

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01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:44,759
Speaker 3: and butter issues.

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Speaker 1: Okay on that note, because then the other side is

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01:42:47,760 --> 01:42:51,040
Speaker 1: it's guns are butter. We're we're going to stop there

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01:42:51,080 --> 01:42:52,720
Speaker 1: today because we're going to run out of time. But

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01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 1: I just I think for those of us. I had

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01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 1: a critic who said we were at the surface level.

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01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:01,439
Speaker 1: I hope we've answered him and we've gone a little

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01:43:01,439 --> 01:43:03,679
Speaker 1: bit deeper. And I want to invite you back because

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01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:05,240
Speaker 1: I can see we can go. We're going to start

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01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:07,760
Speaker 1: arguing about the Republican Party. I can see, which is

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01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:08,760
Speaker 1: a good conversation.

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Speaker 3: Hey I'm a Republican, not because I want to, but

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01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:19,639
Speaker 3: the other side left us Man, the left left us Tanner.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks so much for coming and producing for us today.

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01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:25,360
Speaker 1: Of course, I want to thank everybody. I want to

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01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:31,040
Speaker 1: say again, please repost the links. These conversations are unrehearsed.

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01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:33,400
Speaker 1: We don't know where we're going. We ran into some

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01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:38,240
Speaker 1: areas of conflict today, which is great. Mohammed and I

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01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:41,200
Speaker 1: can conflict. We're still friends. Doesn't mean our enemies. We

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01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:45,799
Speaker 1: have to learn how to be in argument without losing

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01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:46,479
Speaker 1: our good will.

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01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:50,240
Speaker 3: Agree to disagree. Say it again, I agree to disagree.

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01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:53,800
Speaker 1: We have we're we're cats. We're hurting cats pretty much.

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01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:55,240
Speaker 3: That's what the Republican Party is.

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01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 1: Okay, So we need a new unity. That's what I'm seeking,

1779
01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:03,680
Speaker 1: a new unity. And guess what's around what it is

1780
01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:12,320
Speaker 1: to be an American that Jewish, Muslim, Lutheran, Catholic, Protestant, atheist, agnostic.

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01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:17,040
Speaker 1: Let's start looking at those founding documents and find what

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01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:18,440
Speaker 1: can bring us together.

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01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:19,080
Speaker 3: Green and pink blood.

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01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:21,120
Speaker 1: We don't care. We want to be America.

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01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 3: He just wanted us to have the same interest. And

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01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:26,600
Speaker 3: our interest is bread and butter issues, our security, and

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01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:29,599
Speaker 3: the rest is less taxes and leave us alone.

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01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:33,840
Speaker 1: That's it all right on that note, thank you very much.

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01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:36,439
Speaker 1: Thank you everyone, have a great weekend. We'll look forward

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01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:38,759
Speaker 1: to picking up this conversation soon again.

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01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:42,479
Speaker 3: Ti get ti get don't forget ti, get dot com,

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01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:46,000
Speaker 3: go get the tires. Because this guy, he didn't tell

1793
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:48,439
Speaker 3: me to say it, but I'm saying it. Elements wise,

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01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:51,720
Speaker 3: the business of America is what business. Please give us

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01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:52,480
Speaker 3: the business.

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Speaker 1: Good night, everybody, Mohammad.

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