1 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: Big day for Shador Sanders. First a visit to the 2 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: Steelers and then a visit to the Insiders. That's right, 3 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: one of the biggest names in the twenty twenty five 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: NFL Draft will be here to break down his visit 5 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: with Mike Tomlin and much more. Abduel Carter also is 6 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: on the road visiting the Giants and getting an important 7 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: checkup on his foot. We will tell you the latest 8 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: on the health and the potential destinations for one of 9 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: this draft's top prospects. NC North was one of the 10 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: most competitive divisions in football last season. Now there's a 11 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: little bit of Lions flavor in Chicago. Stacy Dale's will 12 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: be here to take you inside both of those teams 13 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: off seasons. Welcome inside with the Insiders alongside Judy Batista 14 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: and Ian Rappaport. I am Tom Pelisero here in the 15 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: NFL Network News room in Los Angeles, where the temperature 16 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: is just slightly higher than it is projected to be 17 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: fourteen days from right now in Green Bay, Wisconsin for 18 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: round one of the drought. It's going to be a fantastic, 19 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: fantastic week. Don't worry about it. Just bring a couple 20 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: of extra cod see in that's right two weeks away 21 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: and you will see some of those top prospects coming 22 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: off the board, the likes of Ashton Genty, Travis Hunter. 23 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 2: And many many more. For now, we. 24 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: Continue to speculate about the potential destinations for schdor Sanders, 25 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: who today took a really intriguing visit to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Again, 26 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: he's going to join us from Pittsburgh on this show 27 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: to dive deep into the situation. But Judy, this brings 28 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: us to the broader questions facing the Steelers that we've 29 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: been talking about for really months now. They continue to 30 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: wait on Aaron Rodgers. They continue to have all the 31 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: top quarterback prospects except cam Ward into the facility, spend 32 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: extra time with them for the possibility they take one 33 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: at T T one D one. When you see that 34 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: Schduor Sanders is visiting Pittsburgh, what are your thoughts? 35 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 3: Well, my first thought is that they are still in 36 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 3: a holding pattern with Aaron Rodgers. 37 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 4: But when we were at the annual meeting with all 38 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 4: of the. 39 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: Steelers people last week, I thought that they were fairly 40 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: confident that that deal was going to come together and 41 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 3: that Aaron Rodgers would be their quarterback this season. 42 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 4: Of course, it still hasn't happened. 43 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 3: I think there are certainly people in the organization who 44 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 3: would like to get an answer. 45 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 4: Kind of soon, but it hasn't happened yet. But even if. 46 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers is the quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers this season, 47 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 3: they still haven't solved their long term question of who 48 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: is the quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers going forward. And 49 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 3: that's a question they have faced really since the final 50 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 3: years of the Ben Roethlisberger era. They've cycled through quarterbacks. 51 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 3: They haven't been able to figure it out. They drafted 52 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett, obviously that didn't work out. So why wouldn't 53 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 3: you be looking at the top quarterbacks in this Why 54 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 3: wouldn't you have a visit with Shador Sanders. First of all, 55 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 3: it's kind of murky now where Shadoor is going to 56 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 3: be drafted. Maybe it gets more clarified as we get 57 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 3: closer to the start of the draft, but for now, 58 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: we don't really know where he's going to go. Could 59 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 3: he be in range for the Pittsburgh Steels. The Steelers 60 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: have to know what their options are, whether they get 61 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers or not. They have to know that if 62 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 3: the quarterbacks get into their range, who do they like, 63 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 3: who do they think fits would they take one in 64 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 3: the first round or in the second round. Why wouldn't 65 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: they investigate Shador Sanders, especially again because it's unclear where 66 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: Shador is going to be in this draft. 67 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 5: And I would put this in the category of these 68 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 5: Steelers doing their due diligence, we think, because there is 69 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 5: a chance that something happens and Shador Sanders doesn't go 70 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 5: two or three falls out of the top ten and 71 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 5: is waiting there for the Pittsburgh Steelers, either right around 72 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 5: where they picked, just outside the top twenty, or maybe 73 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 5: they make a small leap up to get him. Either way, 74 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 5: if you're the Pittsburgh Steelers, you know, if Aaron Rodgers 75 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 5: signs with you or not, you still need a quarterback 76 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 5: of the future. And for organizations who have to do 77 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 5: this year after year after year, and this has been 78 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 5: the Steelers situation ever since Ben Roethlisberger really retired, ever 79 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 5: since it became clear that Kenny Pickt was not going 80 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 5: to be the short term or the long term ansia there. 81 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 6: The Steelers would like to not do this. 82 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 5: They'd like to be one of those teams, like so 83 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 5: many others of the really really good franchisees who just 84 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 5: have a guy and don't have to search for it. 85 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 5: So they need to take stock of the quarterback position 86 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 5: in general, and whether it's just getting Shador in to 87 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 5: compare him to some of the other quarterbacks they might 88 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 5: take in the second or third round, or whether it's 89 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 5: making sure that if he's there, you have a full 90 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 5: evaluation all of those things. It was sort of a 91 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 5: necessary evil, I guess would be a weird way of 92 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 5: saying it, but necessarily evil today. And then for Shador Sanders, 93 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 5: you know, sometimes you see top prospects turned down visits 94 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 5: out there's no chance they'll get to him. Good job 95 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 5: by him and we'll ask about it. But taking the visit, 96 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 5: taking the most out of it, meeting coach Mike Tomlin 97 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 5: and kind of moving forward with it. 98 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: And for all the Steelers fans continuing to panic about 99 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: who exacutly their quarterback is going to be, they got 100 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: a reprieve last night in order to panic about their 101 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: star pass rusher with a cryptic post on Instagram, TJ 102 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: watt Ian take me inside. 103 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: This potentially symbolic peace set. 104 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 5: Well, there are a couple options here, and I broke 105 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 5: them down in fantastic fashion on Good Morning Football this morning. 106 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 6: Either TJ. 107 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 5: Watt saw this picture and it's like, I look so cool, 108 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:34,799 Speaker 5: I'm just going to post. 109 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 6: It for my fans. I guess that's possible. Probably not thought, 110 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 6: probably more. 111 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 5: Likely is one of those cryptic social media to each 112 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 5: where he's having negotiations with the Pittsburgh Steelers on a 113 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 5: long term contract extension. 114 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 6: Talks have not you have resulted in a deal. 115 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 5: There are several benchmarks for the really top pass rushers, 116 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 5: and the fact that Miles Garrett got forty million dollars 117 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 5: per year. You know that if you're TJ. Watt, you 118 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 5: have the credentials of Miles Garrett. That's where you're aiming at, right, 119 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 5: That's sort of the goal I would imagine. And if 120 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 5: you're not there, if things haven't progression, if you wanted, 121 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 5: this is a good way of sort of keeping the peace, 122 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,799 Speaker 5: not doing anything out of order, but just calling attention 123 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 5: to things are not exactly as I would like. 124 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 6: No one COEs to TJ. Watt has really said anything. 125 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 5: Watt himself has not said something, but maybe just a 126 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 5: small nudge to the public. Hey, this guy's really good 127 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 5: and he would like his due salary as well. 128 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: The third potential option there would be that's the sign 129 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: that TJ. Watt would love the Steelers to give Aaron Rodgers, 130 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: because there does seem to be a feeling among certain 131 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: corners of that locker room that it would be nice 132 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: to have answers about exactly who was deciding to play 133 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: for one of the most iconic franchises in the NFL. 134 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: Avnuel Carter, the Penn State edge rusher, one of the 135 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: elite prospects in this draft class, continuing his tours earlier today, 136 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: spending time with the Giants and also getting a pretty 137 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: important update on his foot. 138 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 5: Ian that's right today was the combine rechecks, which basically 139 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 5: means any player who had a medical issue with the combine. 140 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 5: Remember abdual Carter had a stress stress reaction, I guess 141 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 5: would probably be stress spot. The best way to call 142 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 5: it a lower leg situation that combine doctors caught and 143 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 5: there was a time when they were considering surgery and 144 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 5: ultimately decided, along consultations with several medical experts, surgery was 145 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 5: not necessary. The spot was explained to me, is very 146 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 5: small and abdual Carter was not in. 147 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 6: Pain, but you don't really know until you get it 148 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 6: checked out. So today that's what it was. 149 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 5: He got a good medical report from the Combine doctors. 150 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 5: No surgery is necessary, they're not going to move forward 151 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 5: with that. Sounds like a shoulder was fine as well. 152 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 5: So for a really really good prospect who has not 153 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 5: worked out at all because of a couple of different 154 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 5: medical situations, at least he got a big thumbs up 155 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 5: from doctors. 156 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 6: And then we'll can continue on his visit. 157 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 5: To the New York Giants, which is actually ongoing right now, 158 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 5: and we'll continue into tomorrow. 159 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: So this is at least a second time he has 160 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: spent time with Giants. Brass dual Carter. To me, the 161 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 3: really interesting thing is an upcoming visit with the New 162 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 3: England Patriots. I have to believe if abdul Carter is 163 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: still on the board when the New England Patriots pick 164 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 3: fourth overall, they will race to turn in that card 165 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 3: because this is a team that really could use an 166 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: edge rusher. 167 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 4: Like abdul Carter. 168 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: We've talked about the Giants that this would be a 169 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: best player available kind of pick because they actually have 170 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: some pretty good pass rushers right now. It would be 171 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 3: not a luxury pick, but it would just be adding 172 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 3: to an area of strength for the Patriots. 173 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 4: It would be filling a significant need. 174 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 3: They only had twenty eight sacks last year, that was 175 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 3: fewest in the NFL. 176 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 4: They were near the bottom of the. 177 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: League in pressure rate, So this is a priority for 178 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 3: the New England Patriots. 179 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 4: The problem for the Patriots that. 180 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 3: Would mean that the Titans, Browns, Giants would all pass 181 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 3: on Abdul Carter, and coming into the draft season, it 182 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: was acknowledged that at abdol Carter could be the top 183 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 3: player overall in this class. It's hard to imagine he 184 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 3: gets to number four. We'll see with the Patriots make 185 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 3: a move for him. Very interesting visit. 186 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 4: I think if. 187 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: There's the biggest need for the Cowboys, you could certainly 188 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: argue that it's at the wide receiver position. So notable 189 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: that Matthew Golden, who has helped himself through the pre 190 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: draft process, blaze the forty at the combine. It's posed 191 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: with Jerry on a visit to the Star with the Cowboys. 192 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: If you take a look at some of the mock 193 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 1: drafts that our experts have been making at NFL dot Com. 194 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: This is a popular pick Daniel. 195 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: Jeremiah as well as Lance Zerlin, who will be joining 196 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: us a little bit later on in the show, both 197 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: sending Matthew Golden to Dallas, while Charles Davis had ted 198 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: McMillan going to the Cowboys instead. But Judy for a 199 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: Cowboys team that once again was relatively inactive in free agency, 200 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: they've got a tough hill to climb, even within their 201 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: own division, to, among other things, to surpass the team 202 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: that won the Super Bowl this year. There's a lot 203 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: of different needs right now. 204 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: As the Cowboys move forward. 205 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 4: They're really opert. 206 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 3: First, I just want to say I love that the Cowboys, 207 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 3: I think are the only team that when players visit 208 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 3: they actually take a picture with the general manager and 209 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 3: in this case, the owner of the team. You haven't 210 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 3: seen that anywhere else, Dat man exactly. Look, wide receiver 211 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 3: is in need, and it has been in need for 212 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 3: a little while. 213 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 4: To pair with C. D. Lamb. They've got a. 214 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 3: Decent wide receiver room right now, but certainly adding somebody 215 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 3: like Matthew Golden would turbo charge that room. They could 216 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 3: use a spark in that offense. The problem for them 217 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 3: is they also really really need a running back. They're 218 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 3: going to be in a position where they could take 219 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 3: one or the other with the first round draft pick. 220 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 3: I think the question is do they take a wide 221 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 3: receiver here? There's almost no question they're going to take 222 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 3: a wide receiver somewhere. 223 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 4: In this draft. But we will see. This is a This. 224 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 3: Would certainly be a really popular pick in Dallas, because 225 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 3: of course you can from the University of Texas. 226 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 4: We'll see. 227 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 3: But this was a very interesting visit and certainly would 228 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 3: fill a need and has been an ongoing need for 229 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 3: the Cowboys. 230 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, receivers in need of running back would make a 231 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 5: lot of sense. The one bit of caution I would 232 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 5: say for the Dallas Cowboys, it is very fun and 233 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 5: we do this every year to put big name skill 234 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 5: guys with the Dallas Cowboys. 235 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 6: Look, if it was a really. 236 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 5: Really good receiver out of Texas who actually might be 237 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 5: the top receiver off the board in Matthew Golden, that 238 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 5: would be a pretty sexy pick. It would be something 239 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 5: to be celebrated locally, it be something that nationally we 240 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 5: would discuss. He would immediately be in the conversation for 241 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 5: Offensive Rookie the Year, and it would be very fun 242 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 5: for all of us. History shows us, though, that the 243 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 5: Cowboys are far more boring, like way too boring. Generally, 244 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 5: what they addressed with their premium premium picks first round, 245 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 5: maybe second round is up front. It's offensive line, like 246 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 5: Tyler Guidon and Tyler Smith, and when they were really rolling, 247 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 5: it was Zach. 248 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 6: Martin and Travis Frederick. 249 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 5: I mean it was all of these offensive line and 250 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 5: Mazzie's and on the other side defensive line. So while 251 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 5: we talk about these skill guys, the Cowboys personnel people 252 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 5: build the old fashioned way through the trenches. I'm not 253 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 5: saying they're not gonna take a running back like if 254 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 5: a Marion Hampton is here, or not gonna take a 255 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 5: receiver if Golden is here, but just looking at the 256 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 5: way the Cowboys do things, they are far more boring 257 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 5: than this. 258 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 6: I have no expectations. 259 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 5: They'll probably pick some offensive linemen who most people don't 260 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 5: care about and haven't heard of. It will probably be 261 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 5: like you know, Membo from Missouri or something that I'm 262 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 5: gonna go, okay, cool, whatever, and then they'll end up 263 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 5: being an all pro Like you know, like say Tyler Smith. 264 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: Is boring or not. We will have answers. 265 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: Fourteen days from tonight, Round one of this NFL Draft. 266 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 6: Sanders ends up caught touchdown. 267 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 2: It is Sanders, and anyone wants in touchdown. 268 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 6: Don't box leap for the first time. 269 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 7: That's on for Shepherd. That's a big hog and he's 270 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 7: still tamp down with it. 271 00:12:59,640 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 8: Sam. 272 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: It's down the field. 273 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 7: At a good open under. 274 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 3: Un believable. 275 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: Buyers got that Sanders to run. 276 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 6: He's got the inside. 277 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: And we are joined right now by Sador Sanders, who 278 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: you might know is a pretty busy man. Right now 279 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: we're catching him literally at the Pittsburgh Airport. How was 280 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: it with the Steelers today? How's how's life right now? 281 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: Two weeks out from the draft? 282 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: Man? 283 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 8: It was excuse is great? Is great? I understand them. 284 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 8: I understand why they'gans somewhat. What coach is the way 285 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 8: how he is? He remembered that a little bit. They 286 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 8: have the same principles. 287 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 6: You know that. 288 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 5: That's interesting because obviously the teams want to know about you, 289 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 5: right they want to learn about you. They want to 290 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 5: get on the board and all the things. You want 291 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 5: to learn about them too, because you know you're looking 292 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 5: at a potential employer as well. How much learning have 293 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 5: you done and how much like giving have you done 294 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 5: to kind of show them the kind of prospect in 295 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 5: person you are. 296 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 8: While iron just our conversation we see it on here 297 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 8: for an hour, I'm able to learn a lot about y'all. Also, 298 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 8: But them understanding me is not that hard. I'm open 299 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 8: book with all the type of questions they want to 300 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 8: know in any situation, and so everything is everything means 301 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 8: the character is very clear to them. 302 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: So in the end, you know, the teams are going 303 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: to make the call, right, They're going to turn in 304 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: the car. Somebody's going to have your name on it. 305 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: But I imagine when you're in these buildings and you're sitting 306 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: there across from Mike Tomin, like you've got to be 307 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: playing up with scenarios in your head, right, like, oh man, 308 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: this I could see myself. 309 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: I could see myself as a stealer. 310 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 8: Yeah. When I'm talking to anything, Uh, I understand the 311 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 8: work is going to take and I see the dynamic 312 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 8: of everybody that's that's around, So I know how my 313 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 8: approach different situations than what I'm gonna have to do. 314 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 8: Uh should be successful and get some franchises. So I'm 315 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 8: just setting back, observing, just watching everything and knowing what's 316 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 8: gonna take when they change the franchise for the better. 317 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 6: Have you enjoyed this? I mean it's it's hard. 318 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 5: You got to and you haven't done a ton of 319 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 5: travel but some obviously, and you're literally in the airport 320 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 5: right now, so clearly traveling some. But has the process 321 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 5: been fun or is it just a grind and you're like, 322 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 5: get me to draft night. 323 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 8: It's extremely fun. I feel like we're gonna just start. Uh, 324 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 8: it's just funny to see what they come up with next. 325 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 8: You know, at first it was the arm with this 326 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 8: strong I had a lot of touchdown's career. Then it 327 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 8: was I pat the ball. That wasn't the thing before 328 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 8: Brode wasn't. So I don't get in trouble off the field, 329 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 8: though it's kind of hard from the creation storyline for 330 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 8: the media. Uh, keep the agorithm going. So it's gonna 331 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 8: be fun with the next door. 332 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: I talked to your quarterback coach, Daryl Colbert Junior earlier 333 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: today and that's what he was saying. He's like, I 334 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: don't really understand how the dude was the top pick 335 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: in the draft in four months without playing any football games, 336 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: and now we're talking about is he gonna still gonna 337 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: be up at the top. It's like nothing's changed since then. 338 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: The pat and the ball thing though, that one got me, 339 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: like you see that on social media, right or people 340 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: tell you about it. Whatever, what goes through your head. 341 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 8: The same stuff, the same stuff have been going on 342 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 8: through my has a first step to is this normal? 343 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 8: I don't do anything negative, so they gotta find some 344 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 8: negative to talk about. So you gotta find a way 345 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 8: to tear me down. But you know, when you know 346 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 8: that type of stuff is coming and you don't really care. 347 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 8: You know. 348 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 5: The last time you and I spoke, we were facetiming 349 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 5: while I was I think pulled over on a highway. Uh, 350 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 5: your dad had had FaceTime. We were talking about the combine. 351 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:30,959 Speaker 5: My kids were in the back of the car. It 352 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 5: was a whole thing. He put you on the phone 353 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 5: and you and I talked, and you basically explained your 354 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 5: entire combine strategy and plans to me. And I was 355 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 5: so interesting because basically it was instead of going through 356 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 5: an agent, a coach, your dad, it was here talk 357 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 5: to Shador himself. 358 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 6: I felt at the time, like that's. 359 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 5: The kind of thing that would prepare you to deal 360 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 5: with all of the things that you'll see in the NFL, 361 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 5: because you're the one who has to answer. 362 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 6: For these things. Is that in your mind? 363 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 5: Is that sort of an example, I guess of how 364 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 5: you've been prepared for this spotlight. 365 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 8: I think it's just a man thing to do. I 366 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 8: think it's just something that us is get to the 367 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 8: source and get to the point when I go visit 368 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 8: these toads, and when I go to all these different franchises, 369 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 8: I ask them truly what I think and how I doe. 370 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 8: And some get offended, some like it, some don't, you know, 371 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 8: make some people comfortable. Some people, you know, invite that. 372 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 8: So uh, they know what type of person, what type 373 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 8: of player they're going to get out of me. So 374 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 8: I just have to make sure you know what type 375 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 8: of tolsion, what type of dynamic I'm gonna have with 376 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 8: them often. 377 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: So last thing for you here s Jordan. 378 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: I've been thinking about this a lot because maybe my 379 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: favorite clip from TV and NFL Draft history is your 380 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: dad on the couch. And given the quote about man, 381 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: I was scared Detroy was gonna take me, they would 382 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: have to put me. I would ask for so much money, 383 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: they would have put me on layaway. Have you thought 384 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: about based on that, I hanick moment. Is there anything 385 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: you can do say where that can actually top it 386 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: and be the Sanders that we think about for great 387 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:09,719 Speaker 1: NFL draft moments. 388 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 8: No, I think I think he's still the standing. I 389 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 8: think he said the standing for sure. Whatever happened naturally 390 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 8: would just happen. 391 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 2: I mean, look at this we got. 392 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 6: This is when he arrived, Like that is so good. 393 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: There it is, there's talking to our friend Andrea Kramer 394 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 1: right there giving that quote. 395 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 2: That's somewhere. 396 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: Make sure you at least ask are those sunglasses in 397 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: the jackets somewhere? Maybe you know that could be the 398 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: homage on drafting man. Thanks to Ton for being you 399 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: should do. I really appreciate man. Good luck, thank you, 400 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: thank you. Caleb Williams did not have to wait long 401 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 1: to hear his name called in last year's NFL draft. 402 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 2: Now he's starting over with a new head coach in 403 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 2: year two. 404 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: We'll have Judy Batista with Stacey Dale's in Chicago talking 405 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: about that relationship between Caleb Ben Johnson and what means 406 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: for the Bears going forward. 407 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 9: Next, on the inside, The Chicago Bears began their off 408 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 9: season program under new head coach Ben Johnson this week. 409 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 3: Obviously, lots of expectations for what Ben Johnson is going 410 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 3: to be able to do for Caleb Williams, who said 411 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 3: he is super excited to. 412 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 4: Get to work under his new boss. 413 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 3: Nobody knows the Chicago Bears better than our very own 414 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 3: Stacy Dales. Stacy joins us now to discuss the Bears 415 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 3: as they turn the page on last season and start 416 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 3: the Ben Johnson. Stacy, We've actually spent most of this 417 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 3: offseason talking about Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson and what 418 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 3: Ben is going to do for Caleb. We haven't really 419 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 3: talked much about Dennis Allen and what he is going 420 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,239 Speaker 3: to do for that defense. What is he going to 421 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 3: do for the Bears defense. 422 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 10: Thank you for teaming up on something other than the offense, 423 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 10: because I just love this fit. 424 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:58,479 Speaker 2: I know you do too. 425 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 10: With Dennis Allen rejuvenated, it's really you know, it's going 426 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 10: to be interesting because this is a group that finished 427 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 10: Matt Aberflus was a heck of a defensive minded guy 428 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 10: and had this group playing, you know, relatively well for 429 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 10: a couple of years and you know, obviously things didn't 430 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 10: work out last year, but you know, Dennis Allen steps 431 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 10: into a group that has so much potential. As we've seen, right, 432 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 10: they were pretty good in the takeaway department. Unfortunately, they 433 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 10: finished twenty seventh in terms of total defense last year. 434 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 4: They struggled to stop the run. 435 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 2: They gave up big plays. 436 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,719 Speaker 10: But Jalen Johnson in company, as you just saw him there, 437 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 10: are also excited about Dennis Allen and they're going to 438 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 10: play a lot more man to man and what does 439 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 10: that mean. As we heard from Jalen Johnson this week, 440 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 10: he wants to be the lock up, the number one 441 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 10: guy type guy. 442 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 4: And one of the. 443 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 10: Areas that Dennis Johnson is excited Dennis Allen, excuse me, 444 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 10: is excited about this group is the secondary. He loves 445 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 10: the talent, therey, he loves the length, the size of 446 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 10: the cornerbacks. He thinks there's versatility with the safety position, 447 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 10: and I think he sees a lot of potential with 448 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 10: those linebackers. I'm just really curious to see what they 449 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 10: do up front defensively. Obviously, adding Grady Jarrett and o'dangbo 450 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 10: from the Colts So Atlanta in Indianapolis sending over some 451 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,719 Speaker 10: players for Dennis Allen's group, But ultimately I'm just anxious 452 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 10: to see Judy what they do with their seven picks. 453 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 10: Currently they obviously pick at number ten. I believe I'll 454 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 10: be there covering them for this draft because it's another 455 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 10: important one for general manager Ryan Poles and company, and 456 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 10: certainly know you one would think like they could go trenches, 457 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 10: go defensive line, go offensive line here, or let's get 458 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 10: a showstopper, right, and so the buzz name around here 459 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 10: is these Bears fans would love to see Ashton Genty 460 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 10: the running back, become the showstopper for the Chicago Bears, 461 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 10: as we saw mister Gibbs and Jamior Gibbs in Detroit 462 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 10: with Ben Johnson last season. But I'm really anxious to 463 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 10: see this defensive evolution under coach Allen. 464 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned Ben Johnson leaving the Detroit Lions also 465 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 3: left Jared Goff. What's Jared Goff going to be able 466 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 3: to do without Ben Johnson. 467 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 10: I just think this is his biggest year yet because 468 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 10: he gets to show everybody the type of leader that 469 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 10: he is. What's really interesting is this Detroit Lions team 470 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 10: last year. Obviously the evolution from twenty twenty two when 471 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 10: Ben became the offensive coordinator, they'd just gotten better and 472 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 10: better better, right to the tune of the fourth most 473 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 10: points in NFL history last regular season, they had like 474 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 10: five hundred and sixty four points this offense. They were 475 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 10: so explosive, the number one scoring offense, number two total, 476 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,239 Speaker 10: They were the number two passing off events when it 477 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 10: was all said and done. But what Dan Campbell has 478 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 10: created right now, entering his fiftieson the head coach, this 479 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 10: is going to be a completely player led locker room. 480 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 10: So we're going to talk about can they replicate the 481 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 10: success now with John Morton the new offensive coordinator as 482 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 10: we've seen with Ben Johnson, but Jared Goff's voice Judy 483 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 10: has gotten bigger and stronger and louder every single year, 484 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 10: and there's so much leadership that has contained. So this 485 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 10: will be a player led locker room as it has 486 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 10: evolved under head coach Dan Campbell in with Brad Holmes. 487 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 10: I mean, Jared Goff had career highs in wins, completion percentage, 488 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 10: passer rating, passing, touchdowns, passyards per attempt, like he. 489 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 4: Had his best season last year. 490 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 10: It's got to get even better this year, and I 491 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 10: think it can because of the type of leader he is. 492 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 4: But they've got. 493 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 10: Seven picks in the draft, Brad Holmes. As you know, 494 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 10: Judy does a masterful job. They start at twenty eight, 495 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 10: and with the loss of Kevin Zeitler to the Tennessee Titans, 496 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 10: one of their starting guards, I'm just really anxious to 497 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 10: see possibly adding an offensive lineman there. Maybe it's a 498 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 10: Gray Zabel, a Tyler Booker, a Donovan Jackson, a guard 499 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 10: that could really fit in there. Maybe they go defensive 500 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 10: line though, and how Baden Hutchinson come back from that injury. 501 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 6: We'll see. 502 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 3: NFC North is never boring. Stacy Dale's thank you very much. Well, 503 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 3: when those guys get to the draft, they're going to 504 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 3: see plenty of familiar faces. Look at all of these 505 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 3: Georgia defensive players drafted in the first round since twenty 506 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 3: twenty two, not that long ago. Jalen Carter, Nolan Smith, 507 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 3: Trevon Walker. Of course three of these guys with the Eagles. 508 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 3: Howie Roseman definitely loves him some Georgia Bulldogs. 509 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 4: So does Brian Baldinger. 510 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 3: We think we're about to find out if Brian Baldinger 511 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 3: really loves the Georgia Bulldogs. Baldy, thanks for joining us, Baldy. 512 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 3: Let's go through some of the top Bulldog the prospects 513 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 3: we've got right now. Let's start with the edge. Jalen Walker. 514 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 11: Yeah, well, I mean it's going to be a dog 515 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 11: and Kirby smart knows how to recruit five star athletes 516 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 11: and the coach him up. So Jalen Walker is and 517 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 11: he's an off the ball insidelinebacker that can come screaming 518 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 11: off the edge in pass for a situation. So he 519 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 11: really has versatility to his game. And now you just 520 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 11: watched right here here he comes right up the middle 521 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 11: right here, I mean just from the inside linebacker spot. 522 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 11: But here he is fighting off an offensive tackle. He's 523 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 11: got the strength on the edge to set the edge, 524 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 11: you know, and then take down the ball carrier. Here 525 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 11: he is coming off the edge, just a little ghost move, 526 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 11: a little dip and rip, you know. So he's got 527 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 11: real versatility to his game. And you know, once he 528 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 11: gets you in the open field, he starts chasing you. 529 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 11: You're like, this is Archie Manning right here. Archie got 530 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 11: taken down pretty good. And Archie can run that man, 531 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 11: he knows how to run, but Jaylen Walker caught him 532 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 11: up pretty good. Like he's like, you know, he's a 533 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 11: top ten pick here in this draft. You could debate 534 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 11: Abdul Carter Jalen Carter off the edge, who has more versatility, 535 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 11: but they're both extremely talented athletes. 536 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 4: All right, Let's talk about another edge. Mikel Williams. 537 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 7: Yeah, Mikel. 538 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 11: Look, look, I mean he was part of the last 539 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 11: national championship team and a big part of that team 540 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 11: that beat TCU. He was he got banged up in 541 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 11: the first game last year, Judy and played through a 542 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 11: high ankle spring, but still played well. He's a big, 543 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 11: strong body that can play up and down the defensive 544 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 11: line and a three technique. 545 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 7: He can come off the edge like he does. 546 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,719 Speaker 11: Against Calvin Banks in Texas right here, and he can 547 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 11: get to Quinn yours and get the ball out. 548 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 7: You know, he can stack and shed right here. 549 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 11: He's got tremendous core strength and he's six foot five, 550 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 11: he's two hundred and seventy pounds. 551 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 7: He can drop an anchor body. 552 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 11: He can really turn the corner as well as he 553 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 11: does against Ohio State in this particular play. 554 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 7: And so you can play him inside. You can play 555 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 7: him outside. 556 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,479 Speaker 11: They'd run stunts a lot with him and Jail Walker 557 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 11: at Georgia together, so you can see some of the 558 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 11: ways that you might be able to use them at 559 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 11: the NFL level by how they used them at Georgia. 560 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 3: All right, they had talent in the secondary as well. 561 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 3: Tell me about defensive back. 562 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 11: Malachi starts, Well, you put up two hundred tackles in 563 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 11: three years, like he's yeah, he makes an impression and 564 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 11: he shows up and really it's all phased. He could 565 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 11: be your cover safety, he can be your box safety. 566 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 11: He can play in the deep half of your defense. 567 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 11: He really plays a variety of spots on your defense. 568 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 11: Here he is right now. I mean he has an 569 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 11: excellent job of finding the ball the deep path of 570 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 11: the field. Here against Oregon, he gets his head back 571 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 11: on the ball like he does here against Clemson. 572 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 7: This is spray fade route. 573 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 11: Right here, he gets his head around and then he 574 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 11: high points the ball. You know, he's got plenty of 575 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 11: size here. He is right here, just leverage on Jalen Milroe. 576 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 11: Not an easy guy to take down in the middle 577 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 11: of the field. He does that, but he can blitz, 578 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 11: he can tackle for losses there's a variety of ways. 579 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 11: Reminds me a lot of what Brian Branch brought when 580 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 11: he came out of Alabama. 581 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 7: For Detroit a couple of years ago. 582 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 11: But he has a talented safety, and like all safeties 583 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 11: in his business, you can't just specialize, you know, in 584 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 11: the deep path, You've got to be able to cover. 585 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 11: You got to cover tight ends, running backs at times. 586 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 11: Malachi has proved that he can do that. Ride your 587 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 11: ways just by how they utilized them at Georgia. 588 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 3: I have a feeling we're going to be hearing those 589 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 3: names early often, all three on Draft night, Baldy, thank 590 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 3: you very much for NFL prospects. The draft journey is 591 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 3: the most demanding and inspiring job interview process in the 592 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 3: world of sports. In an exclusive new series, NFL Media 593 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 3: takes you along for the ride with two exceptional prospects, 594 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel, quarterback from Oregon, and Luther Burden, the receiver 595 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 3: from Missouri. Here's a sneak peek as they embark on 596 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 3: their draft journey in Destination Green Bay, presented by Toyota. 597 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 12: What's a head to Andy, Who's come. 598 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: On tome another guy? I will be. 599 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 7: One of the top guys, I'm everything. 600 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 12: I'm prepared, you know, all the all work I'm putting in, 601 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,719 Speaker 12: vot you don't know, don't have this opportunity to, you know, 602 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 12: be able to showcase my skills in front of the 603 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 12: whole World's very opportunity. 604 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 8: Appreciate it. 605 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 2: Go see how Indy Man. 606 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 7: Peace out and we are here. 607 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 6: The twenty twenty five NFL scouting combine. 608 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 7: Is the peak. 609 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 12: Everything's working too, because every kid's dream to make it 610 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 12: to an NFL combine and go crazy, and. 611 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 8: You got to go make it happen. So I'm gonna 612 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 8: let it fly, take a deep breath and game onne. 613 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 12: So I'm gonna feel confident myself, you know, confident the 614 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 12: work I put in and watch stop. 615 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 13: Now the most tynamic player in college football. 616 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 7: Touchdown Ash the gent D. 617 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: What a run for Ash the gent D? Touch down? 618 00:30:58,960 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 12: What a throw? 619 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 11: There more that other big moments, big corner Rangus goes 620 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 11: a little more right into the endside. 621 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 2: Touchdown touchdown Colorado too, lighting in the. 622 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 13: Game, shour touchdown, touchdown Colorado. 623 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: You've heard a lot of those names in the past 624 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: several weeks leaping up to the NFL draftings. 625 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 2: Now just two weeks away. 626 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: So who are some of the names you haven't heard 627 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 1: enough for answers on that we bring in Lance Zerline, 628 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: bring back our Brian Baldinger with me, Tom Pilaicero and 629 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: Ian rapport Lance. All right, in terms of some of 630 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: those less heralded guys we should be talking out about more. 631 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 2: Give me a safety that you'd put on that list. 632 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, Jonah Sanker from Virginia. And it's funny talking to 633 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:41,959 Speaker 8: different teams. I think they all love him and they 634 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 8: all are hoping. 635 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 14: That he makes it to them. But I don't think 636 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 14: he gets out of the third round. And the reason simple. 637 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 14: He's big, he is physical. He will run the alleys 638 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 14: and smack you in the run game. He's got the 639 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 14: ability to cover over the slot. It's you know, in 640 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 14: today's NFL, you want safeties who are two way safeties, 641 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 14: Guys who can run. You want guys who can run 642 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 14: a little bit. He ran a sub five four five forty, 643 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 14: so he's in a four to four, so he can run. 644 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 14: He's got size, he can cover, and he can you know, 645 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 14: and he can get downhill and be physical against the run. 646 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 6: Now, there's some things that clean up. 647 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 14: There's some things that clean up in terms of pursuit 648 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 14: angles and some of the open field tackling. But this 649 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,479 Speaker 14: is a really good safety prospect that I think you're 650 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 14: gonna be able to find late in day two. 651 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 7: Lance, I already have a nickname for him. 652 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 11: I'm calling him Urgent Care because of his instant diagnosis 653 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 11: of plays. 654 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 7: No bad angles, knows where the ball is going. 655 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 11: That's how you get two hundred and seventy tackles at 656 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 11: Virginia over the last three years. I mean major production 657 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 11: wherever you line them up. And so I thought his 658 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 11: open field tackling was Chris and the angles he takes 659 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 11: are are excellent. That helps him get to make those 660 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 11: type of plays in the open field. 661 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, Urgent Care diagnosed it quickly. 662 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 5: After you wait, like a half hour after they take 663 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 5: injuries that are much more severe than yours and you're 664 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 5: just sitting there bleeding, and it's like, yeah, we'll get 665 00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:58,479 Speaker 5: to you. 666 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 6: Urgent Cares are great. All right, Lance, I'll give. 667 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 5: You another position, give me a sleeper corner to diagnose. 668 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 8: First of all, I love the honesty of this show, 669 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 8: you guys. When the ties are off. I love the. 670 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 14: Energy of the show now so much, And I love 671 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 14: the energy of Jacob Parrish, the cornerback from Kansas State. 672 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 8: That's how we segue on the show. 673 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 14: If you look behind me, there is every position and 674 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 14: does what I look for from every position when I 675 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 14: evaluate tape, and the one thing I really want is speed, 676 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,239 Speaker 14: and I want fluidity and coverage. Jacob Parrish check and 677 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 14: check the other thing about him. Not only did he 678 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 14: run in the four threes at the combine, so he 679 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 14: can really roll. He also has the ability to play 680 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 14: not just outside, but he can play inside on the slot. 681 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 14: So now you got an inside outside cornerback with massive speed. 682 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 14: He killed it with these jumps. Watch is vertically zoom 683 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 14: ten foot nine inches and a good vertical as well. 684 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 14: So he's explosive, he's fluid, he can run. There's everything 685 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 14: you love about it. So you know, I'm thinking second 686 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,959 Speaker 14: round is where Jacob Parrish is going to go. Deserves 687 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 14: a lot more conversation than he's getting right now. 688 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 8: Draft process. 689 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 7: He's a pitbull, Lance is what he is. He's sticky 690 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 7: in coverage. 691 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 11: He poor guy his size, he has no fear of tackling, 692 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 11: uh and he gets his hands on a lot of footballs. 693 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 11: He's got five interceptions, and so the only thing that 694 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 11: people are gonna fight is his size. Is he is 695 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 11: he a slot defender or can he play outside like 696 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 11: he does for the Wildcats of Kansas State, Because it 697 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 11: didn't look like it was a problem because of his 698 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 11: foot quickness and how he's able to accelerate to the 699 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 11: ball and make him play on the ball. 700 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 7: So I'm with you, Alance. 701 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 11: I think that Jacob Parris has a real chance to 702 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 11: have a chance at the next level. 703 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to let's just call Atlance a 704 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 1: Boston college man besides me that you think we should 705 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 1: be talking about a lot more. 706 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,720 Speaker 14: Ozzi Trabilla, the right tackle, he's played a little left tackle. 707 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 14: Bill O'Brien for NFL head coach obviously knows a thing 708 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 14: or two about the pro game. And I watched him 709 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 14: on take. You know, he's six foot eight. He's a 710 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 14: legit six foot eight, and those guys are not going 711 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 14: to be great vendors. They're gonna have a little problem 712 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 14: redirecting and changing direction because that's just the nature of 713 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 14: the high center of gravity. But what I really liked 714 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:06,919 Speaker 14: about him is he's not going to be a big, 715 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 14: powerful run blocker. But I really liked his pass protection. 716 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 14: I thought he did a nice job. He's got good 717 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,919 Speaker 14: inside hands, bald, he does a great job of doing 718 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 14: what he needs to and then what I call it 719 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 14: the first phase of putting himself in a position to 720 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 14: take control of the rep and pass pro in these days, 721 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 14: I mean, you're getting paid to be a pass protector 722 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 14: more than a run blocker. And I think he has 723 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 14: very quietly got a chance to sneak into the late 724 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 14: second round, maybe early third, and become a starting right 725 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,280 Speaker 14: tackle fairly quickly. 726 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 7: I'm with you, Alanto. 727 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 11: He started twelve games at left tackle, twenty four at 728 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 11: right tackle. So and he's clean, hasn't had any injuries. 729 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 11: You watch him and you know he's I think he's 730 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 11: going to get stronger, He's going to grow into his body. 731 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 7: But you know he's smart going left side right side. 732 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 11: You know, bending is an issue for guys that are 733 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 11: six foot eight getting down moving defensive tackle hips in 734 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 11: the combo run game, it might be a little bit 735 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,720 Speaker 11: of a problem, but I do like to he swallows 736 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 11: guys up on the outside and now he covers him up, 737 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 11: you can still drop an acre. And I think he's 738 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 11: athletic enough at his height to be able to compensate 739 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 11: for things that are difficult for any man that side. 740 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 11: We don't see a lot of six foot eight tackles that, 741 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 11: you know, really excel at the NFL or taller. I 742 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 11: think he's got a chance, so because I think he's 743 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 11: been well coached and it shows up on film. 744 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 5: All Right, while you guys are talking and I got 745 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 5: one more for you, Lance will come up with an 746 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 5: Ossie nickname and then. 747 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 6: We'll share it after we go. 748 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 5: So, first of all, while we're thinking Lance, Ony, don't 749 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 5: you give us a sleeper wide receiver? 750 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 14: Well, first of all, if you have any time off, 751 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 14: just do one hour Insiders with me and Baldy talking 752 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 14: offensive line for an hour. You guys can take a 753 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 14: full hour problem. Dante Thornton from Tennessee. There's your sleeper. 754 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 14: Six foot five runs in the four threes. You know, 755 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 14: it's really tough for a guy six foot five and 756 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,240 Speaker 14: long legs to Usually those are build up speed guys. 757 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,760 Speaker 14: He had a one five to one ten yard split. 758 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 14: That is really moving fast. It means he can get 759 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 14: to top speed quickly. He averages twenty one point nine 760 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 14: yards per catch during his career. Now, you know against 761 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 14: the two I safety looks they make park him in 762 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 14: the garage a little bit. He's not going to be 763 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 14: a high volume target, but he is a field stretcher. 764 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 14: He is a big play machine. He can really track 765 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 14: the ball and make plays on all three levels when 766 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 14: it comes to contested catches, and I think he is 767 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 14: a fourth round steal for a team that's looking for 768 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 14: a big guy that can really turn turn on the 769 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 14: explosive plays and stretch that field for an offense. 770 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 11: You know, Lance, you love the physical part and the 771 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 11: size speed that he presents, but Tennessee, I think inhibits him. 772 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 11: With that super spread offense. He's out there all the 773 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 11: way to the sideline making these catches, so he really 774 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 11: basically runs stops and he runs gos and a lot 775 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 11: of times there's no safety in the middle of the field, 776 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 11: which is fine. He turned those into home runs like 777 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 11: he does right here. Plenty of those type of plays. 778 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 11: But I think at the NFL level he's got to 779 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 11: develop and if somebody is a little patient with them 780 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 11: the way that he runs, with the height and the 781 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 11: range that he has and the breakaway speed, I'm with you, 782 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 11: you might find yourself a real home run hitter in 783 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 11: Thornton right here. 784 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 2: Baldy Lance, thank you very much. 785 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: A lot more from the two of you here over 786 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:18,479 Speaker 1: these next two weeks before the NFL Draft. In other 787 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,479 Speaker 1: NFL Draft news, former Texas wide receiver current NFL draft 788 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: prospect Isaiah Bond turned himself into Frisco, Texas police this 789 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: morning for a matter related to an outstanding warrant for 790 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 1: sexual assault for The Frisco Police Department said he posted 791 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: bond and subsequently was released. In a statement, Bond said, 792 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: regarding the accusation made against me, I would appreciate the 793 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: time and opportunity to defend myself and prove the claims 794 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 1: made patently false. I am in full cooperation with the authorities. 795 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: Wore made a willing and active participant in the investigation. 796 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 2: Coming up. 797 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 1: More insiders after this, including the guy who had his 798 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: NFL dream come true a couple of weeks ago and 799 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: then spent the next six month months or so making 800 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: Washington commanders fans dreams come true. No play bigger or 801 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: more impactful than that one, and now it's landed in. 802 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 2: The place it brightly blogs. 803 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: We'll explain after this, Sonny Insiders, the late great John 804 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: Madden would have turned eighty nine years old today. Coach, broadcaster, 805 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: video game entrepreneur, an absolute legend and also one of 806 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 1: the best you'll ever hear when he's miked up. 807 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 6: Let's start off and stay after the whole game. Okay 808 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 6: about defect, What the hell. 809 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 2: Are you trying to do? 810 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 12: No back, John Hey, Hi, produ. 811 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,359 Speaker 14: You Jey, you big Jery ever clung hond on them? 812 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 11: You certainly do, Johnny, A lot of you know you 813 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 11: deserved a lot of things. 814 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 2: Can't worry about that. 815 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 7: A team. 816 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 1: A meeting of two Kings, which still does not beat 817 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: a flush Lebron James Derek Henry meeting last night at 818 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: the Mavericks Lakers game one of many things it went 819 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: well for the Lakers on that particular night. Derek Henry 820 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 1: is still looking for that contract extension. Maybe Lebron can 821 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 1: lend him a little bit of money. Jane Daniels pay 822 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: day is coming in park has of plays like this. 823 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: We all remember where we were Week eight, Commanders Bears, 824 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: the final play, the improbable, the tip to Noah Brown 825 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: in the end zone, a play to prove pivotal in 826 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: both team seasons. If you ever thought that belongs in 827 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: the Louver here's jayde Daniels with the picture of the 828 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: play at the louver. 829 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 2: What do you think, Judy. 830 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 7: Listen. 831 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 4: I love that he has embraced the meme. That is awesome. 832 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 4: It belong in the loover. 833 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 3: I'm glad Jaydon is at the louver. Frankly, the loof 834 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 3: is amazing. 835 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, I support all of this. The only thing I 836 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 5: wonder is he's not actually in the louver. Now, maybe 837 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 5: they couldn't take pictures in the loof because, like, if 838 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 5: you're going to hang it in the louver, you gotta 839 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 5: have walls, and he's literally standing outside, so you can't 840 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 5: hang a picture where you're just standing outside with no walls. 841 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 5: Nobody saw a problem with this. I mean, it's a 842 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 5: good idea, but there are no walls. 843 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: I'm not real familiar with the rules of art galleries, 844 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: but I imagine if you go inside and try to hang 845 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 1: something that you created, it might cause a bit of 846 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: an issue. 847 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 2: Did he come with that? Ozzie Torpillow nickname yet Ian. 848 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 5: Ozzy, Crazy Train Tappello crazy Train Ozzy Osboy makes no 849 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,439 Speaker 5: sense singer to Tom he had a band