1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Well, what's up. It's way up at Angela Yee, Angela Yee. 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 2: And of course it's a Wealth Wednesday, so my partner 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 2: Stacy Tisdale is here. 4 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 3: Happy Wealth Wednesday, everybody. We are going way up with 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 3: a queen today. 6 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: M Hm shau Day Mohammed is here. She is the 7 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: chief Marketing Officer of Time. By the way, amazing event. 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 2: I actually was at your closers event the other day 9 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: and when I tell you, I'm glad I came out 10 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 2: the house. 11 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 4: Yes, because it's so hard and you looked amazing. 12 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: Thank you. 13 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 4: I was. 14 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: It was such a great room to be in. 15 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: When I tell you, next year, I'm going to talk 16 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 2: to you about all the connections that I made. 17 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: Wow, well I was there. 18 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: I like to hear that literally the next day, just 19 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: some of the people that I was able to connect 20 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,319 Speaker 2: with at an event. And that's why I always tell 21 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: people networking is still working, but it is in a 22 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: such a nice environment and such a great place. And 23 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: to see you being honored to you know, Shouday, for 24 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: the work that you've been doing. So let's talk about 25 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: who you are first before we get into the Closers event. 26 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: Actually, you are the chief marketing officer at Time. But 27 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 3: she is the first CMO that Time has ever named. 28 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 3: So the fact that they made that move, the fact 29 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: that they did it with a black woman, that is something. 30 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: Girl tell us about. 31 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: That to see the numbers and that's reflected and yeah, 32 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: once you've been brought on as a team market old 33 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: school legacy media. 34 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, And I've like people ask me a 35 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 4: lot why I'm in sort of like magazine and you know, 36 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 4: it's like it's it's seen as a traditional medium and 37 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 4: it is. But the impact that you just talked about 38 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 4: that you can have, what it means to be on 39 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 4: a cover, what the connections you can make, and how 40 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 4: you can grow your career by having a placement, a 41 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 4: story of features. So I just love creating that opportunity 42 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 4: for people, especially for us. So there's just there's just 43 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 4: there's the opportunities are endless. 44 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: Now. I know journalism's in your bloody an't worked at 45 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 3: the Daily News, did That's kind of what planted the bug? 46 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 3: And you were a journalist, you know, we both worked 47 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 3: at Black and to Ye Yeah, and you were at 48 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 3: Forbes and in a different. 49 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: Role and your dad's an author to. 50 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 4: Over time Daddy's go, They'll kick it out exactly exactly 51 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:13,399 Speaker 4: we all are. 52 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 3: And I love what I've heard you say on a podcast, 53 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 3: and it's kind of what like where Wealth. 54 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 4: Wednesdays came from. 55 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you were able to see that even though you're 56 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: a journalist and you might do great stories, the people 57 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: who really have the power are in the business suites, absolutely, 58 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 3: because they make the decision of what stories get out 59 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 3: and when gets when they get out. And you said, 60 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 3: I have to go here to make real impact. Not 61 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 3: easy for a black woman tell us about that? 62 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,839 Speaker 4: Not easy? I mean, yeah, I mean when you look 63 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 4: at you know, journalism, and you look at sort of 64 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 4: the gatekeepers, right, there's not many of us, period, And 65 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 4: so I could see that when I wanted to. If 66 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 4: you're thinking about the stories you want to pitch, sometimes 67 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 4: you have to explain why they matter, right, And so 68 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 4: I'm like, hmm, this is going to take a while explain, 69 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 4: you know, why it's important to cover these things. So 70 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 4: I said, okay, I see that on the business side, 71 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 4: these business exacts really are making the calls or can 72 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 4: influence sort of what gets airtime and quotes, right, And 73 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 4: so I said, could I make more impact being on 74 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 4: the business side and influencing what shows up in the magazine, 75 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 4: what shows up online, in real life, at events, all 76 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 4: that kind of thing. 77 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 2: That's important because you came from Forbes before this, and 78 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 2: I know what a big deal it is to be 79 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: able to get a write up in Forbes and to 80 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: have that representation as journalists. You know, there's people who 81 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: work at Forbes who have profiled me and some of 82 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: my you know friends who are also entrepreneurs, and I 83 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: know that can really help when it comes to highlighting 84 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: your business and making sure that people even know it exists, 85 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: but then also making sure people go and bring in 86 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: some revenue. 87 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: It really does impact. 88 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: We're gonna keep using this word impact please people directly. 89 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 4: No, absolutely. I mean that's what I saw, especially at 90 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 4: Forbes when I saw thirty unders and saw what that 91 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 4: did for a young person's career to say they made 92 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 4: that list, to say that, to be in those rooms, 93 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 4: it is literally life changing. 94 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: You got a thirty under thirty two. 95 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 4: Well, I was like, can I apply and it were like, nah, 96 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,559 Speaker 4: you can't apply it that it's now not in thirty 97 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 4: So but yeah, I think that's what I love most 98 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 4: about it, right, is like someone's life can literally change 99 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 4: by getting it write up. And so it's that piece, 100 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 4: and then it's the connections that you're talking about when 101 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 4: you're in the rooms and to be at a time 102 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 4: event means something you feel comfortable. I feel like anybody 103 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 4: who's here is at a certain level. I can work 104 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 4: with them, so you're able to kind of break down 105 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 4: those walls and really start to just build together. Because 106 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 4: I think that's what I want to see is I 107 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 4: see a lot from my vantage point of a lot 108 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 4: of activity, but it's like, how do we bring it 109 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 4: together and start working together. 110 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 3: You see your imprint already the Closer's List, Yeah, and 111 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 3: just the makeup I thin was on Corey Booker, John 112 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 3: O'Brien build a lot of people of color there. And 113 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: you see your Women of the Year list, the diversity there, 114 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 3: you have Cocoa GoF, you have Taraji. So talk about 115 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 3: the statement that you're trying to make with the diversity 116 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 3: you're putting on these lists for the art, for audiences 117 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 3: and for the media. 118 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. So I mean I'm not on the editorial side, 119 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 4: so I'm not the person who could say, you know, 120 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 4: you could have a cover I wish, but we have 121 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 4: an incredible you know, editor in chief Sam Jacobs, and 122 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 4: I can with the closers that came from Impact House, 123 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 4: something that we did in Martha's Vineyard last year that 124 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 4: was all about how do we create an ecosystem around 125 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 4: black entrepreneurs And so from that I was able to 126 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 4: meet someone there who was on the stage who had 127 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 4: an idea for a list, and so we sort of 128 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 4: you know, brainstormed and tried to figure it out and 129 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 4: then we were able. I was able to bring that 130 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 4: to our editor in chief and our CEO, J Just Sibley, 131 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 4: and they loved it. So I think when it happens organically, 132 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 4: when you can sort of put the pieces together and 133 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 4: for people to see it live, that's why I love 134 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 4: an event, because you can see and feel that energy. 135 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 4: It allows you to see like, this is a real community, 136 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 4: this is a real audience, and there's no limit to 137 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 4: what can happen when you just give people a platform. 138 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: And let's talk about what the closes are. 139 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: For people who may not know about this clos this 140 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 2: list and about closing this racial wealth gap, explain to 141 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: everybody what the closest list actually is. 142 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it is eighteen black leaders and it was 143 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 4: really important that everyone on that list be black who 144 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 4: are closing the racial wealth gap, and so what that 145 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 4: means the black white racial wealth gap. And so we 146 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 4: all know that the stats are incredible about how many 147 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 4: years and generations it will take to do that, and 148 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 4: it's a lot that we're up against. And so the 149 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 4: opportunity there was to say, I want everybody to look 150 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 4: at and say, oh, I'm talking about that. Oh wow, 151 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 4: you know, because that means something when we can say 152 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 4: we're bringing attention to this issue at a time when 153 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 4: a lot of people are rolling back, a lot of 154 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 4: companies are saying, don't say black, you know, And so 155 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 4: I think it was important for us to step out 156 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 4: and say, no, this is an important topic and to 157 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 4: bring it to life with a cover, with an event 158 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 4: and really saying this is not just you know, sort 159 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 4: of a blip, but we're bringing light to this issue. 160 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: And it's very diverse to the different feels that we're 161 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: touching on here. You know, it's healthcare, it's entertainment, it's sports, 162 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:35,559 Speaker 2: it's policy making. Even the founders of the Fearless Fund, 163 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: you know, that was really important to me in particular 164 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 2: because this fund has helped so many black and brown 165 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: women with their businesses, but they're getting they're under attack. 166 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: Which is I don't even understand how that's. 167 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 3: Possible, yeast for discrimination And when you I'm so glad 168 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 3: you said that about the Friller's fun because they've invested 169 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: over forty four million dollars I believe in black business. 170 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: And what you're saying about DEI being rolled back. Yeah, 171 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 3: from your vantage point, what's going on? 172 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think there's a I think with 173 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 4: George Floyd right, there was a clear message of we're 174 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 4: putting a lot of money towards this issue, towards making 175 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 4: sure we right the wrongs and we create opportunity for 176 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 4: black people. And I think what you're seeing is the 177 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 4: opposite of that, and folks coming in and wanting to 178 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 4: roll all of it back. And so there's an attack 179 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 4: on folks who are coming out front and saying, yes, 180 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 4: we are working on this issue. But I think it 181 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 4: takes lists like time the closers, that's just one piece, 182 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 4: but it takes looks like that to say we're paying attention, 183 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 4: we're still here, We're still behind the people who are 184 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 4: doing this work. So you know, because what sometimes what 185 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 4: happens is they want to write a stay quiet, right, 186 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 4: and then things can just go through, fall off, go away. 187 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 4: So I think that's why it's like it's so much 188 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 4: more than a list. It's like it's saying, we are 189 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 4: documenting this. 190 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 3: Issue that's really important. How it seems like a disconnect 191 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 3: between legacy anything and these old arguments that we're hearing about, 192 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 3: you know, the wealth gap and all these terrible things 193 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 3: in the black community versus gen Z and Alpha. It's 194 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 3: almost like they're in a different world. You have more 195 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 3: black investors invest in the stock markets than any other 196 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 3: group in the last three years. Again, you know, black 197 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 3: women as the fastest biggest group of entrepreneurs in the 198 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 3: United States. And I get approached to the right, and 199 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 3: I get approached to being mainstream media all the time. 200 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: They don't want to. 201 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: Talk about that. 202 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 3: They don't want to talk about those these new wonderful things. 203 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: What do you think about that? And also, how is 204 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 3: time going to reach these young people? 205 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think part of it is saying 206 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 4: we're here and we see you and creating the opportunity 207 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 4: for community to be built. Because young people they want 208 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 4: to be a part of it. So when they oh, 209 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 4: you get it, but I would do it like this, 210 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 4: like I would love I would love everybody to come 211 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 4: to me and say that, because that's how you change 212 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 4: and evolve. And so I was given the opportunity to 213 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 4: do that in my career. You know, our CEO, J 214 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 4: Just Sibley was the one who sort of I've worked 215 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 4: with her for the past ten years, and anytime I 216 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 4: raised my hand and said this doesn't make sense, I 217 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 4: want to do it like this, you say, Okay. 218 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: Go ahead, do it so and you said people can't 219 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: believe that. 220 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 4: They can't believe that. 221 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: Also said in. 222 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: Her speech that you inspire her and you're her mentor, 223 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 2: which I think is important because that's what it should 224 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 2: be like, right, because you have a different experience and 225 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 2: a different lens that you're bringing to her that she 226 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 2: may not view life the same way that you're able 227 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: to view it from. 228 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you've brought a lot to the table. 229 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 2: Also though, when you look at the numbers too, because 230 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: we all know numbers don't lie. So when it comes 231 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 2: to the reset that time has had with you in 232 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: that position, it really does show. You know, we think 233 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 2: about DEI and people think that means putting unqualified people 234 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: in positions, But that's not what that means. That means 235 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: give qualified people the positions that they may not otherwise 236 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 2: have had the opportunity to get. 237 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 4: Absolutely, Absolutely, and that's what's something like everyone's seeing the 238 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 4: Closers and Impact House and what we did with Latina leaders. 239 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 4: We're not talking about anything less than at all. We're 240 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 4: talking about people who deserve to be in this room 241 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 4: more than anybody else and just having that chance. 242 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 2: Sometimes more mediacor people with no melanin getting these positions 243 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 2: because they know somebody, or they're related, whatever it is. 244 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: But why not put somebody qualified? 245 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 2: And then you see the value that it brings when 246 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 2: you're reaching different audiences because just like and you guys 247 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: had Aurora James as one of the closers with the 248 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 2: fifteen percent pledge, fifteen percent of the population is black, 249 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 2: why not have these brands on the shows? 250 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 1: And people really did sign. 251 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 2: Up in order to have fifteen percent of their shelf 252 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: space dedicated to black owned brands. 253 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's what I hope this list does, too, right, 254 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 4: is to motivate somebody to say, like, oh, next year, 255 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 4: I want to make that list. So how what can 256 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 4: I do? How can I you know, just create something 257 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 4: that could get me on that list, because that's motivating too, 258 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 4: right to see like there's somebody who's paying a time, 259 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 4: is paying attention to this. I'm gonna I'm gonna go crazy. 260 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 4: I'm going to go hard to figure out how I 261 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 4: fit into this story as well. So that's something hurt, 262 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 4: you know, Arara, creating something specific like the fifteen percent 263 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 4: pledge that can happen in every industry. The work that 264 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 4: Proo is doing in dsms and what they're doing in spirits, 265 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 4: and how that can be expanded upon. So I think 266 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 4: that's what's important too, is people saying, if I do 267 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 4: this work, someone's gonna notice. 268 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be a thankless. 269 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: Exactly because a lot of things we do we feel like, 270 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 2: well it's a lot of work, we get no credit 271 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 2: for it. 272 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: So does anybody notice? 273 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,599 Speaker 2: And you just mentioned prong Horn, so talk about that partnership, 274 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 2: because it was a faux black bar at this event, a. 275 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, all blashack all black bar, and the room just 276 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 4: felt very it felt like it was for the culture. 277 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 4: And now that was done essentially, Yes, it's done intentionally, 278 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 4: but Pronghorn is I mean, they're less than two years 279 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 4: old and they already have dozens and dozens of brands 280 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 4: under their portfolio, women own brands, you know, all black owned, 281 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 4: and what they're doing is incredible because what they're saying 282 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 4: is when you want to create opportunity, it starts from 283 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 4: their perspective, from the bartender to the supplier, Like all 284 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 4: of those people along that chain have to be bought into. 285 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 4: This is important, and that's so much of what we're 286 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 4: all up against is everybody along that chain has to 287 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 4: care or has to see the value. And there's so 288 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 4: many people on that chain and maybe when you start 289 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 4: out you don't see. So I love how they're taking 290 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 4: it from bird's eye view and saying, we're going to 291 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 4: do this in this industry, but this can be replicated 292 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 4: throughout others. So I love what they're doing. It wasn't 293 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 4: all black bar and yeah, it's just really incredible work. 294 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 2: And not to throw myself in it, but my coffee 295 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: company we're so intentional about that too, because even from 296 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: our importer to our roaster, black women, you know, and 297 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: we were very intentional on making sure but like super 298 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 2: amazing qualified black women who are in those positions that 299 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 2: we're blessed to be working with. Even when we built 300 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 2: out our coffee shop, we made sure every single person 301 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 2: was a person of color that had a hand in 302 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: building that shop. And so I think that's why this 303 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: whole Fearless fun thing has me so like like, I 304 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: want to make sure we're aware of that and we 305 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 2: know what can we even do to make sure that 306 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 2: we're supporting the work of the Fearless because I think 307 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 2: of like businesses they've helped. 308 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: Like Slutty Vegan, Yeah, Pinky co Yes. 309 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about things like that and the importance 310 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: of making sure that because we don't get the VC 311 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: funding that other groups of people get even though we 312 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 2: are starting our businesses, it makes it a lot more difficult. 313 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: But to see that we have resources. 314 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: The main thing for us is we need to be 315 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: in those positions to fund our own too. 316 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 4: Absolutely, And that's why the work that Yeah, Aaron and 317 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 4: Leona doing is incredible because they have our back right 318 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 4: in rooms that we're not in and so that's often 319 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 4: who's under attack, the people who see that whole supply chain. 320 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and just so people know what's going on with 321 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 3: Fearless Funds, they are being sued for discrimination by the 322 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 3: same group that brought us all up with the Supreme 323 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 3: Court and affirmative action this summer. So now they're being 324 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 3: forced to use a lot of their funding, a crazy 325 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 3: amount of their funding to fight lawsuits and an even 326 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: bigger issue for them. They were just about to get 327 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 3: another round, another series of funding for their own fund 328 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 3: and that's all been held up all because of this Lossit. 329 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: Like imagine saying we don't want to help black women 330 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 2: who are undeserved when it comes to funding, and we're 331 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 2: gonna actually put a step to it and hurts the 332 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 2: calling it. 333 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 4: Discrimination, right, And that's how you see how much money, 334 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 4: how important dollars are because they're pooling dollars and they're 335 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 4: under attack, and so that just shows you that's where 336 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 4: they're target's, that's who has a target on their back. 337 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 4: And so that's why we tried to make the focus 338 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 4: of this list economic because it's yes, it's a social 339 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 4: justice issue, yes, all of these things, but at the 340 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 4: root of it, it's economic. 341 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 3: The Power Network did an event about a week and 342 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 3: a half ago at Carnegie Hall and there was a 343 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 3: total who's who of black leaders or ever. Now Sharpton 344 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 3: was there, Mark Morial was there, Robert Smith was there 345 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 3: and I was just struck by everybody was talking about 346 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 3: DEI and AI, yes tally, how the black community has 347 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 3: to prepare themselves skills wise to get jobs, and I 348 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 3: learn about AI and then that bigger question of us 349 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 3: not having broadband access and how all of these are 350 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 3: I just saw all of these leaders, all of these 351 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 3: organizations like the Urban League, they are fully going guns 352 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 3: blaring on the DEI issue and on the AI issue. 353 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's important. We just launched last year time one 354 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 4: hundred AI for the first time, and that was one 355 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 4: of our most popular issues because every body is talking 356 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 4: about AI. I mean literally, and so you I really 357 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 4: got to see anybody who you know, was sort of 358 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 4: in the last phase of the tech disruption. They are 359 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 4: talking about AI and they have a solution, they have 360 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,719 Speaker 4: a product, they're out front with it. So it is 361 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 4: so important for us to educate ourselves about how we 362 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 4: can interact or just at least make your every day 363 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 4: easier by using AI. I'm just you know, really getting 364 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 4: into it. I'm like, I just saved myself three hours, right, 365 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 4: But it's like you have to really, we have to 366 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 4: educate ourselves because this is the next. 367 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 2: Whether or not you like it, don't be scared of it. Yeah, 368 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 2: you have to get in, dig into it, because it's happening. 369 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 4: It's happening, it's been. There's so much money being funneled 370 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 4: towards AI, and you know, can't we can't miss this one. 371 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: We cannot jobs. 372 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 3: Even these machines, they're run by people. So getting the 373 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 3: skills to run these machines. You mentioned your dad was 374 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 3: an accountant. Yes, you might think I'm gonna what could 375 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 3: I have to do with AI, But those skills and 376 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 3: that knowledge are also valuable to it the technology companies 377 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 3: that have to build this, and that was a big emphasis. 378 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, what 379 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 4: I've learned in learning more about these companies is that 380 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 4: there's always a need for a thinker, a strategist, and 381 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 4: so bringing your expertise in your culture, your approach to 382 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 4: your lens of the world is enough to figure out 383 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 4: how can we influence what someone else who doesn't look 384 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 4: like me, how they're creating the products that they're creating. 385 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 4: Because there is a real opportunity we could get left out, 386 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 4: and so I think we have to know that we're qualified. 387 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 2: Right, you know, And I think that's by like a 388 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 2: list like the closers, and the people on this are 389 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 2: important because they're also going to be the ones that 390 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 2: are making sure there's programs that exist that also target 391 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 2: our communities to make sure we are involved. And one 392 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: of the other people you honor was from the ten 393 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: thousand Interns Interns Interns Foundation. How have internships been crucial 394 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: for you for what you do now? Oh? 395 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 4: I mean major. So I have wanted to be a 396 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 4: media since I was fifteen, and, like I said, my aunt, 397 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 4: who worked at the New York Daily Due she was 398 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 4: secretary in the sports department. She saw that and took 399 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 4: me to the National Association of Black Journalist Convention ABJ 400 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 4: every year. 401 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: That'll do it, and that'll do it. 402 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 4: And then when I was seventeen, I joined the Emma 403 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 4: Bone Foundation, which creates opportunities internships for black and brown students. 404 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 4: And so I interned at six ABC in Philly for 405 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 4: three summers when I was starting when I was seventeen. 406 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 4: That changed, That changed everything, literally and I'm on the 407 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 4: board of Ema Bone Foundation now. I literally have to 408 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 4: give a special shout out to shan Ja Rice, who 409 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 4: I remember talking to in my Syracuse dorm and I 410 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 4: was like, oh this this lady not playing. Yeah, So 411 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 4: it was like just that that opportunity for high expectations, 412 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 4: when someone is able to in your industry, is able 413 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 4: to set a very high expectation for you and what 414 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 4: they expected you, that can change everything and then to 415 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 4: create the opportunity for you to flourish. So internships have 416 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 4: literally changed my life and changed my career because we 417 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 4: don't necessarily get the opportunity to because I've been watching 418 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 4: how people do it for fifteen plus years and so 419 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 4: that allows me to say, Okay, I like this piece, 420 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 4: I don't like that part. What can I take? And 421 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 4: you know, so it's allowed me to take a step back. 422 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 4: And when you're in the room and you don't have 423 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 4: to perform before you have to perform, it takes that pressure, 424 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 4: that pressure, and you can really be creative and grow. 425 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: You saw that, you know. 426 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 2: The financial aspect of internships is interesting to me too, 427 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: because I remember when I was interning it was all unpaid. Right, 428 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 2: there's a lot of paid internships. 429 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 4: I made ten dollars an hour, And my brother who's 430 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 4: in finance, is like, you may what. 431 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 2: But think of that, right, who have the access to 432 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 2: be able to work for free or move somewhere else 433 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 2: and have housing, to be able to do an internship 434 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 2: that can help with their future, versus people who are like, well, 435 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 2: I still have to work over the summer to be 436 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 2: able to you know, pay for things. 437 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: And support my education. 438 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 2: So I can't necessarily do an unpaid internship, even though 439 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 2: it would be so beneficial. And I have to go 440 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 2: back home because I won't make enough money to be 441 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 2: able to go get my own place. 442 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: You know, that's something too. 443 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 4: That's a huge thing. So the great thing about my 444 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 4: bowhen was that we were paid and then we got 445 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 4: a matching scholarship. Wow. Yeah, So like when I tell 446 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 4: you this changed our lives amazing, It changed our lives. 447 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 4: And that's the piece that you know, And because I 448 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 4: became a page at at NBC NBC Page Program when 449 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 4: I when I graduated, and that was also you know, 450 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 4: you had to have support. So it's tough. It's really 451 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 4: it's really tough. When I tell people how much I made, 452 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 4: They're like, what. 453 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: They said, I made nothing. Yeah, I had to pay 454 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: to get to work, yeah. 455 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 4: Literally, yeah, And I live with my grandparents and you know, 456 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 4: Watchington Heights and that's what I had to do because 457 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 4: you don't. You have to be you have to work 458 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 4: six days a week, you have to be there from 459 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 4: morning till night. Like there's no it's it's like where 460 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 4: are you? You know what I mean? 461 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 2: And Shaddy, I want to know for you just going up, 462 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 2: how you grew up with your dad as an accountant, 463 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 2: how are you with how have you been with money? Like, 464 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 2: what's been your relationship with money and finance? 465 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 4: I have room for improvement? What room for improvement? 466 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 3: I'm a financial expert in room for just. 467 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: Make peace with that. 468 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 4: No, but it's it's just being in the environment where 469 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 4: you have exposure to the concepts, it's super important. And 470 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 4: I think even if you know because because being in 471 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 4: media and that's not a career where you come out 472 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 4: killing at all, you know, So that was, you know, 473 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 4: a peace for me, But I still feel like exposure 474 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 4: to the concepts is so important even if you don't. 475 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 4: I was, you know, more of the humanities, you know, 476 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 4: media journalism, So I wasn't sort of that math mind necessarily, 477 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 4: but so I kind of shied away from it, but 478 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 4: I still had exposure. So I think that's just important 479 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 4: even if you know someone's not a math genius as 480 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 4: a kid. Everybody needs exposure to the concepts about what 481 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 4: it can do for you, what the opportunities it can create. 482 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 4: It's not just about the dollars or a spreadsheet. It's 483 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 4: like this is you create opportunity for yourself right when 484 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 4: you make these sorts of decisions. 485 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 3: And there's the whole X factor of money. We were 486 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 3: talking a little bit about that in the green room. 487 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 3: We want to get in your head. 488 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 4: A little bit. 489 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 3: Still. You're talking about your internships and your mentors and 490 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 3: your early career and everything. But now you're the CMO 491 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 3: of Time magazine. Talk about the mindset a little bit 492 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 3: that that takes because a lot of people in our community, 493 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 3: we know the things we're supposed to do. We know 494 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 3: that they're supposed to be these things. But like, for example, 495 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 3: Working Mother and Media did a study eighty percent of 496 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 3: Black women plan to leave corporate America because of the 497 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 3: mental health toll having to assimilate, you know, just the 498 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 3: depress shouldn't they constant microaggression? You could not have avoided that. Yeah, 499 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 3: how did you still maintain your sense of self? 500 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,959 Speaker 4: Yeah? No, that's a great question. Good mentors like within 501 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 4: the organization. And then just like you said that, that 502 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 4: sense of self and not being willing to compromise, you 503 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 4: know who I was, and there are places where I 504 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,959 Speaker 4: felt like that I had to do that and I left. 505 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 4: And so you know, I always say go where you're celebrated, 506 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 4: not tolerated. And that's so important because you cannot. It 507 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 4: doesn't work if you can't show up to a place 508 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 4: of work and feel like you can speak up or 509 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 4: be yourself. And there are very much so environments that 510 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 4: are like that. 511 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 3: Ninety percent of people of color feel like they can't 512 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 3: be their authentic selves in the workplace. 513 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's something we have to really really look at. 514 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 4: And so I'm hoping that someone sees me and says, oh, 515 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 4: she's wearing she's wearing her hair braids, you know what 516 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 4: I mean, like she you know, and says like, okay, 517 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 4: maybe I could, maybe I could do that too. Because 518 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 4: I don't have the answers for how we fix it, 519 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 4: but I think just every person who says I'm going 520 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 4: to just be me and I hope and then it 521 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 4: has to be good enough. And if it's not, it's 522 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 4: not because we're literally killing ourselves by trying to be 523 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 4: someone different by trying to show up in a way 524 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 4: that we think will appease and I've gotten I've gotten 525 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 4: tons of you know, negative feedback as well, and just 526 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 4: being willing to say, okay, you know, and that's hard, 527 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 4: but I think it's it's it's part of it. But 528 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,719 Speaker 4: I wish it were easier. I really wish you were 529 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 4: easier for. 530 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: Us, you know, along those lines. 531 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 2: How were you approached about being the first ever named 532 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 2: CMO of Time magazine? Tell me how that happened that conversation. 533 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 2: Was it something that you were pushing. 534 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 4: For or not at all? Not at all? 535 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 3: You got this job without pushing for it. 536 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 4: Correct, it's all. It's all our CEO, justcasiically. So we 537 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 4: work together for many years at Forbes, and so what 538 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 4: happened was I wasn't on her team, but we were 539 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 4: in a meeting. We were in a client meeting and 540 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 4: it was a our biggest account, and I remember her 541 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 4: passing me notes. This is the first time we really interacted. 542 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 4: She was like trying to pass me notes of what 543 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 4: to say next. I'm looking at this. She like, I 544 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 4: got this. And so after that meeting, she I think 545 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 4: she was like oh okay, yeah, you doo got it. 546 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 4: So she's like okay. So at that point she had 547 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 4: her eye on me, and then I just tried. I 548 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 4: was everywhere. I tried to do everything. I was coming 549 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 4: from being a page, coming from being an intern. So 550 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 4: I'm like, I want to do all of it. I 551 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 4: want to go to the event, I want to go behind, 552 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 4: I want to create. I mean, I brought a bone 553 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 4: foundation in, I created this platform for nonprofits. Like I 554 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 4: was just everywhere trying to do everything, and so I 555 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 4: think I learned a lot about the business very quickly 556 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 4: and where there was opportunity, and you know, there was 557 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 4: a part a transition period at Forbes where I was 558 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 4: I need to figure out what to do next, and 559 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,479 Speaker 4: she said, tell me what you want to do, and 560 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 4: so I pitched about six different roles and I ended 561 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 4: up landing on, you know, pitching this head of d 562 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 4: I had a representation and inclusion practice and thank you. 563 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 4: And I first didn't want to pitch it because I'm like, Okay, 564 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 4: I'm going to be the d I, the black d 565 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 4: I lady. But then I was like, you know what, 566 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 4: if I'm going to be here, I have to do this, 567 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 4: you know, and so we worked on that together. We 568 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 4: built that together, and a lot of it. I was 569 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 4: so scared because I'm like, you mean, I can do this, 570 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 4: and She's like, just do it, you know. And so 571 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 4: I think I started to build up that confidence of like, 572 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 4: my ideas are good, I know how to execute, I 573 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 4: know how to do this, I know to do that. 574 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 4: And so she was able to see I was allowed 575 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 4: that opportunity to create something real. And so when she 576 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 4: got the when she got the roles the CEO of time, 577 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 4: I remember I was devastated when she left and she 578 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 4: called me two weeks later instead, I want you to 579 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 4: be CMO, I said, you want me to be one? 580 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 4: And you know, and it took I had that, you know, 581 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 4: that imposter syndrome of like me, you know, and so 582 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 4: I've had to work through that. But now I think 583 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 4: now I see, like. 584 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 3: I loved what you just said. I was afraid, yeah, 585 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 3: and you did it anyway. And that's where confidence comes from. 586 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 3: Your willingness to be scared, your willingness to do things 587 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 3: when it doesn't it's not going to feel great. 588 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 4: We all have to feel horrible. 589 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 3: But there's something on the other side. 590 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: Pitching ideas because sometimes we can tuck ourselves out of 591 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 2: doing that. You have a great idea and you're like, 592 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: I don't know if this is how they're gonna feel, 593 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: but you never know what things can morph into. 594 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 4: I'm good for pitching an idea. 595 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: We're journalists, yeah, and. 596 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 4: Not being afraid of know right, Like most of the 597 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 4: times I've heard no, yeah. I mean that's just the 598 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 4: nature of being in this space, just being a human being. 599 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 4: So I think being unafraid hearing note is not an 600 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 4: indictment on you or your idea, but allow it to like, 601 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 4: how can I refine this? How can I get to Yes, 602 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 4: maybe it's here, maybe it's not. But I think just 603 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 4: being unafraid of the no has helped to Did. 604 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 3: You feel extra scrutiny? I remember I was always one 605 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 3: of the few financial journalists who actually ever walked down 606 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 3: worked on Wall Street. Yet when I get to these 607 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 3: media networks, there was a meeting. 608 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 4: There would be meetings. 609 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 3: About well does she really know what she's talking about? 610 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 3: And my airtime would be held up while these managers 611 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 3: who knew nothing about you know, these things, were discussing 612 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 3: if I was qualified. I'm the only one, you know, 613 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 3: I've invested ninety million dollars a day on Wall Street. 614 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 3: I'm the only one who had that background. But tremendous scrutiny. 615 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and. 616 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: That's just, that's very just. It holds you back. 617 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think for any of us, I 618 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 4: think we've all experienced that. The assumption is you're gonna 619 00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 4: be underestimated. Period. They're going, you know, someone somewhere is 620 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 4: going to think, how did you? 621 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 3: You know? 622 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 4: And so I think that's part of where the imposter 623 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,719 Speaker 4: syndrome comes in, right, because you're like, I know someone's 624 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 4: thinking this. But then the next thing is it doesn't matter. 625 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: They're wrong. 626 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 4: They're wrong. Yeah, yeah, they're wrong. Yeah. 627 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: Now how did you feel after the dinner, after the closing? 628 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: Let me just tell y'all, Like he was talking about it. 629 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 2: So when you see the people that were in this 630 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 2: um and I know the pictures are all available, yes, 631 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 2: you know, and to have so many of the clothes 632 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 2: that you guys chose, I mean, Easter Ray, you know, 633 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 2: even spoke, Corey Booker spoke, there was just John Hope 634 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 2: Bryant gave a speech to people who stood up, standing 635 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 2: ovation for and so and just seeing the impact that 636 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 2: you had even that night, How did you feel. 637 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 4: I felt like I see it now, like it's possible 638 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 4: because what I wanted to create and why I'm in 639 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 4: media and entertainment is because of what we talked about. 640 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 4: Having a platform changes hearts and minds of people who 641 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 4: are in the community and outside. And so I think 642 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 4: seeing everybody in that room being themselves, a lot of 643 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 4: the feedback was like no one was trying to, you know, 644 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 4: outdo another. Everyone just felt like they could be themselves. 645 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody. I was sitting right by Arianna Huffington, was 646 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: that the. 647 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm telling you that She's like. 648 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: Tell me who you are, but yeah. 649 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 4: She's so sweet, so sweet. And that's the magic of 650 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 4: a time event is that there are people from all 651 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 4: different areas who just feel humble to be there and 652 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 4: just want to figure out how can we build together? 653 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 4: And so I think after that, I felt like, you know, 654 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 4: my work is nowhere near done, but in this little moment, 655 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 4: my work here is done. 656 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 2: I feel like there's gonna be some great stories that 657 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 2: come from this of people that were like, oh I 658 00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 2: met sess and sas that night. 659 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: I think I have a few. So once we in 660 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: some things I love. 661 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 3: But No, honestly, like you must have started like ten 662 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 3: companies that night. 663 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 4: I love surprise me at all. 664 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 2: Yeah no, but honestly, I mean, look, Pinky is there 665 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 2: and we have something exciting that we're doing. So it 666 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 2: was so I didn't even know she was in town, 667 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,479 Speaker 2: you know. So the next day we actually finished up 668 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 2: our deal and the very next morning that we were 669 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 2: working on So for me, it was like just a 670 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 2: great experience to be there. I felt like it was 671 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 2: a celebration and I was like, this is exactly where 672 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be and we need to create more 673 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 2: spaces like that. 674 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: So that is something that you got to make sure 675 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: you just keep going. 676 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 3: Yeah absolutely, RCPs, I'm available next to you. 677 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 2: Definitely an impact from that, But I do want to 678 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 2: thank you so much, you know, and we want to 679 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 2: commend you on the work that you've been doing at 680 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 2: Time just because just tell us where Time is now, 681 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 2: because I know you guys talked about it that night, 682 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 2: but with Time magazine, where the magazine is now, the 683 00:32:58,680 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 2: pay walls taken down? 684 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 4: Just give us absolutely absolutely, so everyone everyone thinks the time, 685 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,479 Speaker 4: they think of Time magazine, we're actually called Time just 686 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 4: just time because there are so many products. So we 687 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 4: have the print magazine. We also obviously have you know, 688 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 4: the Digitaltime dot com. And one of the things that 689 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 4: the first things that j just Sibley did was she 690 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 4: removed the paywall from Time so that anyone anywhere could 691 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 4: access real journalism and balance information. So that was incredible. 692 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 4: We also have Time Studios, so there's a lot of 693 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 4: works that we've done that you you've definitely. 694 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: Seen that you didn't realize. 695 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, that you may not know is Time. So we 696 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 4: have Time for Kids, which is an incredible platform. Obviously, 697 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 4: our events platform, so there's so many ways. There's so 698 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 4: many ways to engage with us and to build and 699 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 4: one of the things that we've created is this opportunity 700 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 4: every month to talk about a big, you know sort 701 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 4: of event. So it's either Time one hundred, AI, Time 702 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 4: one hundred, Climate, the closers Impact House, Time one hundred, 703 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 4: Time one hundred and next literally every thirty days. But 704 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 4: that allows us to because we're Time, we can talk 705 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 4: about anything. But that allows us to say, we want 706 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 4: you to partner with us in these really focused ways 707 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 4: that allow you to tell your unique story on a 708 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 4: platform like Time, and we can do that in so 709 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 4: many ways. 710 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 2: Now, wow, well we need that, we need that real journalism, 711 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 2: especially now there's so much out there that is like 712 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 2: how do you sift through everything? But it's good to 713 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 2: know there's a responsible reporting that's going on. 714 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: Also, absolutely all right, Well. 715 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 2: Shade Mohammed, Chief marketing Officer of Time, where can people 716 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 2: find you? 717 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 4: Follow you, stalk you at dot k dot Mohammad on Instagram. 718 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 4: That's pretty much the platform that. 719 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 2: I'm Okay, now, you got your parents? You know, I 720 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 2: met your parents that night too, so that was amazing. 721 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,919 Speaker 4: Now and yeah and there my dad's in a room. Now. Yeah, 722 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 4: my parents are literally the reason that I'm able to 723 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 4: do all of this, and they have always always always 724 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 4: encouraged my dreams. Most of the time, I believe in myself. 725 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 4: So yeah, I owe them everything. 726 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: Okay, I love to see it. I know they're so 727 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: proud of you. 728 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 3: Well, thank you, thank you for having us. Yeah I 729 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 3: made thank you And you were talking so much about 730 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 3: mindset and everything, and I just wanted to share that 731 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 3: I'm launching a new platform next week Stacytissdale dot com 732 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 3: and it's all about mindset. 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