1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome into the second hour of The 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate you being with us, 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: and especially all those excellent calls we had in the 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: last hour from people facing that choice in the National Guards. 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: Some of them already made the choice to separate from 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: serving our country because they were being told that they should, 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: or they were being forced to get the shot. And 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: we'll be returning to that story frequently. I can assure 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: you were not going to let that go. We are 11 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: not letting them get away with the fauciite madness. Friends, 12 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: not going to do what they want, which is to 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: fade away from it and let people vote. Oh, you know, 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: maybe Biden's not that bad. No, it actually is that bad, 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: you know it because of the gas prices an inflation. 16 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: But we should also remember the refusal to allow people 17 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: to have weddings, and then you know, they had a 18 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: whole bunch of funerals with hundreds of people in DC. 19 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: You remember that for a member of Congress who passed away. 20 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: So it's something that we have to continue to stay on. 21 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: It's a story that we will not let go here. 22 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: But then there was this in New York City, and 23 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: it's now catching national attention because of a lot of 24 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: what I think people are feeling right now is there 25 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: is a among woke progressive prosecutors. There seems to be 26 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: this desire to go soft on criminals, meaning either don't 27 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 1: charge them at all, dismiss the charges, give them minimal charges, 28 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: or want them let them get out early. I mean, 29 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: there's just this attitude within the criminal justice apparatus of 30 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: the left where they are in charge, which is now 31 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: pretty much every major city. As I said, Clay, I 32 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: checked in on this one with our buddies Michael Berry 33 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: and Jesse Kelly. Houston even has a progressive prosecutor. Now, 34 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: this is not just a thing that's happening in cities 35 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: in the Blue States. It's all over the place. Here's 36 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: the situation, and it's a self defense case that is 37 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: already being treated as a murder by Alvin Bragg, a 38 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: new district attorney here in New York City. A man 39 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: named Jose Alba, sixty two years old, almost a senior citizen. 40 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: He was working in his Now, for those who aren't 41 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: familiar with bodegas, it's very much like a Delhi or 42 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: a small grocery store. We call them bodegas here in 43 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: New York City, and so that's how I'll be referring 44 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: to it, just common parlance here in New York. So 45 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: he's a bodega employee, and he was doing his job, 46 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: and he's behind the counter, and there is some kind 47 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: of disagreement with a woman who is the girlfriend now 48 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: of the deceased, who apparently tried to buy a bag 49 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: of potato chips for her daughter. Her debit card was declined, 50 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: and the store employee said, give the chips back you 51 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: or you have not paid for them, and if you 52 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: cannot pay for them, you must give them back. According 53 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: to police, then the woman produced pull the knife out 54 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,119 Speaker 1: of her handbag. There was a scuffle, and she ran 55 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: out of the store to call on her boyfriend for help. 56 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: Her boyfriend now dead. This guy Simon was on parole 57 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: at the time for attacking a police officer. So this 58 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 1: is a person with a violent criminal history. State records 59 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: also show that he had spent time in various New 60 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: York prison facilities previously. So Clay, this is all on video. 61 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: We're putting the video up at Clayenbuck dot com so 62 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: people can see it themselves. You should see this video. 63 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: This individual, remember he's already. This guy's an employee, Jose Albo. Okay, 64 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: he's been working there for decades. It's apparently a very 65 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: well respected and like member of his community, no criminal record, 66 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: never had a problem of any kind. And this guy, 67 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: this guy Simon, goes in and assaults him, it's all 68 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: on video, shoves him into the stack, gets physical with him. 69 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: Alba tries to go remem this is behind the employee desk. 70 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: Alba tries to go around him, and then and then 71 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: Austin Simon, thirty seven year old x con attacks him 72 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: again and Jose Alba pulls out a knife and stabs 73 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: twice defense himself. Simon dies. Clay Jose Alba, the employee here, 74 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: is facing second degree murder charges right now and being 75 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: held in Riker's Island Correctional Facility. People are outraged, and 76 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: I think we all see what's going on here. It's 77 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: gonna be a big story to the extent that it's 78 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: not already. A couple of other details. Bail two hundred 79 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars, which is a really not surprisingly 80 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: high Originally it was half a million. They lowered it. Yeah, 81 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: and maybe they've increased it since then. I'm reading from 82 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: the Daily Mail and this is also important. I think 83 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: Buck family launched a go fund me. Sorry they have 84 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: to judge for half a million, pardon me. And then 85 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: it was set at two fifty go ahead. Family launched 86 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: a go fund me to try to raise money so 87 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: they could bail him out. They had raised twenty twenty 88 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: thousand dollars and then go fund Me pulled their fundraising capability, 89 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: much like they did for the Kyle Rittenhouse case, because 90 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: go fund me basically decides if there's anything that's the 91 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: least bit controversial that BLM is upset about, that is 92 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: going against the prevailing left wing orthodoxy, they will pull 93 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: it back. And so the case is going this is 94 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: according to the Daily Mail again, case is going in 95 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: front of a grand jury on Saturday. This is going 96 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: to be everywhere, is my prediction. You you saw this 97 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: story because New York City and there's again it's all 98 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: on video. You can watch this. Everybody can effectively be 99 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: their own juror and determine what they believe is appropriate 100 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: or inappropriate. The racial dynamics at play here, Let's be honest, 101 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: are significant because the guy that got stabbed is black. 102 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: The bodega employee I'm assuming is Hispanic based on his name, 103 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: Jose based on his name. So you've got that dynamic 104 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: that is at play as well. You've got the location here, Buck, 105 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: which you could speak too better than I could. But 106 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: it's a Harlem bodegas, right, It's in a heavily black 107 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: and Hispanic neighborhood. Neighborhood. You have the past history of 108 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: this individual who was stabbed, and that will be much 109 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: debated in terms of admissibility in the event that this 110 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: is a criminal trial. But you also have Alvin Bragg, 111 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: who has typically been and again you're in New York City, 112 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: so you can speak to this very well. But I 113 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: follow it. Let's say soft on crime, right, has not 114 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: charged people to the utmost buy in large when they 115 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: are accused of misconduct, accused of criminal activity. And here 116 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: the books getting thrown at this guy. Now, I think 117 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: it's going to be a really difficult case, right for 118 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: New York City in general, because I think this guy 119 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: has the right to defend himself. So I can look 120 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: at this from the perspective of what exactly is going on, 121 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: but what was being said you can't hear. Right, there's 122 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: no audio on this video that I have seen so 123 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: far that certainly goes a long way towards implicating self defense. 124 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: Because if the guy is saying, Hey, I'm gonna kill 125 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: you because of how you treated my girlfriend, that certainly 126 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: plays in here as well. The age, the size, the positioning, 127 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: all of this is going to be because everybody can 128 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: watch it for themselves and make their own decision. I've 129 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: had some use of force training from the government in 130 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: the past, and I can tell you that when you 131 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,239 Speaker 1: have someone who is bigger and stronger, who has already 132 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: remember he's coming in in effect here to finish off 133 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: the fight that his girlfriend wrongly started, and a knife 134 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: which assesses which brings into a weapon into the case immediately. 135 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: So what we're asking this individual, Jose Albert to do 136 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: here is to hope that the knife that has already 137 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: you have been used to threaten him is not now 138 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: in the hands of this guy who wasn't even there, 139 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: who's a violent felon, who is clearly a guy who 140 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: you know has has an even enter the store with 141 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: good intentions right, clearly didn't enter the store because he 142 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: wanted to have a nice chat with him, asaulted him 143 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: once physically, and then the guy tries to get away. 144 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: He didn't use the knife the first time, and then 145 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: he wanted to assault him again behind the counter in 146 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: the store. If this isn't self defense, what is self defense? 147 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: What is the City of New York asking Jose Albert 148 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: to do here? Is it to wait until you get 149 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: stabbed and then you're allowed to defend yourself. Is it 150 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: to wait until you're already bleeding out and about to 151 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: die and then maybe you can use lethal force? I mean, 152 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: I see this instance, and you know you come away 153 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: from this thinking Democrats really only want to throw the book, 154 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: it seems when it comes to use of force at 155 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: people who are defending themselves. In some of these cases 156 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: the Kyle Rittenhouse thing, for example, Kyle Rittenhouse was on 157 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: video defending himself. Charged him with murder in this case, 158 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: this is clear video charging him with second degree murder, 159 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 1: not even manslaughter, second degree murder. It is outrageous. But 160 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: you know the attitude of the Democrats now, Clay is 161 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: you gotta let people go in your store, steal your 162 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 1: stuff and rough you up. Well, let's be honest here. 163 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: It's identity politics. Yeah, and so you have got a 164 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: to me go fund me taking down his ability to 165 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: raise money to defend himself. We have not spent and 166 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: I mean as a society enough time talking about the 167 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: powers of big tech to determine this is me being 168 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: a lawyer here right. Why should everyone who wants to 169 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: donate money to a legal defense fund for this individual 170 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: not be able to do so? Why should go fund me, 171 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: which allows legal defense money to be raised in left 172 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: wing cases all the time, not have gotten more criticism 173 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: for the Kyle Rittenhouse case. And when you're talking about 174 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars bail, why should 175 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: this family not be entitled to try to raise money 176 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: using the go fund me platform as well? And for 177 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: people who listen to the show regularly, you know that 178 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: I have donated to the criminal Defense Fund of the 179 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: January sixth prisoners. We've got people who are still in 180 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: solitary confinement who have not been able to have justice 181 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: in that case over eighteen months after they were allegedly 182 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: committing a crime. Regardless of what your politics are, we 183 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: have really and this is the aco you, This is 184 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: the legal defense community in general. Remember Buck John Adams 185 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: defended the British soldiers who were accused of committing the 186 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: Boston massacre, not because not because he agreed with their behavior, 187 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: but because the responsibility of a lawyer is to provide 188 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: zealous defense for his clients. So how can you not 189 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: allow that client to be higher. The left does not 190 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: believe that the enemies of social justice deserve elite defense. 191 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: That is the bottom line. That is the truth. It 192 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: is the truth though now the ACLU. It is the 193 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: truth of the Democrat Party. It is the truth of 194 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: prosecutors as well. In cities like New York, you see 195 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: an instance like this and you say to yourself, this 196 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: all ties in to what we saw for a while. 197 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: If you remember in San Francisco, there's started to be 198 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: these news editorials, don't call the police when someone's robbing 199 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: your house. Yeah, that might in violence against a person 200 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: of color who is committing a non violent crime. Those 201 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: were real editorials, folks. I'm not making this up. That 202 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: was a sentiment the social justice left tells people. Don't 203 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: tackle anybody who's or you know, or physically block anyone 204 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: who's engaging in grand theft larceny from your store. Let 205 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: them take it. It's just property. Why would you use violence, 206 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: and in this case violence disproportionately that may target communities 207 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: of color. This is the thinking of the left. They 208 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: say it out loud. And so when you get a 209 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: prosecutor like this, it's just let him steal the back 210 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: of potato chips. It's almost like he started it by 211 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: not letting. In the mind of Alvin Bragg, you started 212 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: it by not letting someone steal from you quietly well, 213 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: and I would say two bucket. The self defense is 214 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: about the mind of the self defender. In other words, 215 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: what threats did they perceive? How do you not allow 216 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: in your mind the rise of violence in New York 217 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: City to not also go into the level of fear 218 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: that you fill when there are random acts of violence 219 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: and crimes skyrocketing all over your city, probably your neighborhood 220 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: as well. When you are working in that shop. All 221 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 1: of that is part of the decision that you are 222 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: making when that spur of the moment you act. And again, 223 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: that video is out there a lot of you. I 224 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: had not seen this until you shared it with me. 225 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: Buck when we sat down to start the show today, 226 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: I think this is going to become a major, major 227 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: story before all is said and done, because of the 228 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: identities involved, because there's a video and everybody can sit 229 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: down and be their own juror. And it's close in 230 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: terms of any everything. There's no oh but it cuts 231 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: here or there that you can't see what's going on. 232 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: You see everything. It's New York City, where the media 233 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: covers things, as you well know, more aggressively than they 234 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: do in other parts of the country. You've got the 235 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: Alvin Bragg angle, You've got go fund me pulling the 236 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: ability for this guy to raise defense funds. This is 237 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: gonna be a really big story. And if you haven't 238 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: seen it, i'd encourage you to go check it out 239 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: at clay and Buck dot com and make sure you 240 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: don't miss anything there. 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This is not the kid who got stamped 267 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: to death outside of Lebron James's school, which everybody basically 268 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: is pretending didn't happen. But Jalen Walker was shot by 269 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: police and they now have released video of Jaalen Walker 270 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: shooting at the police from his car. They found a 271 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: gun in the passenger seat of his car. They've had 272 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: curfews in Akron, Ohio the past couple of nights over 273 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: this shooting. Have you watched the video. I know that 274 00:16:54,800 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: it's been released. And police argued that the reason they 275 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: were in hot pursuit, and certainly the reason that Jalen 276 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: Walker was shot was because he had fired a shot 277 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: already at police and that gun was recovered inside of 278 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: the car. And the Akron police have now released a 279 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: video that they say is this individual firing at them, 280 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: and then when he got out of the car, they 281 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: say they fired at him when he turned around towards them, 282 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: based on the fact that he'd already fired at them 283 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: once before. And this is in one way, I'd say 284 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: there's a parallel here. The bodega employee would have to assume, 285 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,959 Speaker 1: or would understandably assume that when he had already been 286 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: threatened with a knife, the guy who comes in to 287 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: help the girlfriend probably still has that knife. If this guy, 288 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: Jilen Walker shot at cops, which they say he did, 289 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: and it's all on video, they would assume that he 290 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: still has that gun on him and he flees and 291 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: it's nighttime and he turns around rapidly, what are they 292 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: supposed to do? 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Click on 311 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: qualify me and just answer a few questions. That's get 312 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: refunds dot Com. Welcome back into the Clay Travis and 313 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. We're joining now by our friend Brian 314 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: Dean Wright, my brother from Langley, former CIA Operations officer, 315 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: host of the President's Daily brief podcast on iHeart Brian. 316 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: Great to have you man. Such a pleasure, gentlem So, 317 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: yesterday there was this warning briefing that came out from 318 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: m I five and the FBI, so Britain's domestic intelligence 319 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: agency and the closest thing that we have in a 320 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: sense right our federal law enforcement agency on the growing 321 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: threat from China. And I think it's important for people 322 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: who know Brian. They didn't mean in this theoretical well, 323 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: South China Sea could be a military flashpoint sense, which 324 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: is very real, but that's not something we're feeling every day. 325 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: They were talking about active Chinese subversion influence and espionage 326 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: operations at the US, at the UK, and at all 327 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: of our allies. I mean, I wanted you to put 328 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,959 Speaker 1: this in perspective for everybody. Yeah, book, it is an 329 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: absolute nightmare, not only here but obviously in the UK 330 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: and Europe. What we know in this country is the 331 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: FBI opens up hundreds, if not thousands of counterintelligence cases 332 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 1: every single day, hands down the number one threat to 333 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: this country. Certainly the British folks are saying the exact 334 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: same thing. And what we know is this is not 335 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: a new threat. In fact, going back all the way 336 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: to the nineteen eighties, President Reagan tried to stand up 337 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: De beijiing to say, look, you guys are stealing our 338 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: stuff through espionage operations. And now we go from the 339 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: nineteen eighties until now, and we have cyber operations. So 340 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: we have forty plus years of the Chinese doing this, 341 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: and they are stealing tens of billions of dollars worth 342 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: of intellectual property every year, and it puts US at 343 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: a disadvantage because they steal our stuff and then they 344 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: make a much cheaper version of it and they take 345 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: over market share. That means people listening to this program, 346 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: who had jobs in some of these industries, don't have 347 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: as many of them or can't get the wages that 348 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: they might otherwise get. So that's why this is a 349 00:20:55,440 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 1: really big story, and it's a really big deal that 350 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: you're coming on with us. I was reading this morning, 351 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: and I know bucks on it. I'm not superactive, but 352 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: I bet a lot of kids and grandkids are out 353 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: there on TikTok, and I'm wondering how much concern should 354 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: there be in the United States government and also certainly 355 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: in the counterintel universe about the power and scope of 356 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: influence that China could potentially have using TikTok and how 357 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 1: popular it is in the United States with the information 358 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: that they're gleaning. Absolutely. Look, so there's two sets of this. 359 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: One is if you are, let's say, a US soldier 360 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: or an airman, if you're a marine, etcetera. If you 361 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,959 Speaker 1: work for the United States government, they can and in 362 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: some cases will use that data that they can collect 363 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: on you against you, right in terms of a blackmail 364 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: so that might be what you post, what you like. 365 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: All of that goes back to Beijing and they start 366 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: building profiles on you and a build that plus other 367 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 1: ways that they've had you, or they've found different pieces 368 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: of information against you, so they put that picture together 369 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: using data from things or places like TikTok. That's why 370 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: I'm from a national security perspective. It's a really big deal. 371 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: But if you're just an average citizen do you know 372 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: out there? Should you be worried about using TikTok? And 373 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: I guess the first response to that is, do you 374 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: really want to support in any way any company that 375 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: helps the Chinese? I mean our number one enemy. I 376 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: mean economically, they're trying to destroy us geo politically, they're 377 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: trying to destroy us. So do you want to support 378 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: in any way any Chinese company? I think that the 379 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: answers probably know, or it should be. But then the 380 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,719 Speaker 1: second question is, well, how could they use that if 381 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: you're not a spy or a soldier, how could they 382 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: use that against you if you're just an average citizen. Well, 383 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: some of that we don't yet know, but they're going 384 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: to have the information on you to be able to 385 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: use it against you someday, because it could be that 386 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: you know somebody that they want to get in front of, 387 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: and so they start using this data against you in 388 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: that way, even you're not directly connected. We're speaking of 389 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: Brian Dean Wright, former CIA operations officer, host of the 390 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: President's Daily Brief podcast, which is on iHeart. Listen to 391 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: it on the iHeart app. Brian, I gotta ask you 392 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: how you think the situation in Ukraine has been handled 393 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: by the Biden administration up to this point. In the 394 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: early days, there was a lot of people posting their 395 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: six Ukraine flag emogs and the Ghost of Kiev and 396 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: Snake Island all this stuff, and now it's faded in 397 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: the background, despite the fact that the war drags on. 398 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 1: What are you seeing right now in that area conflict? 399 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: And what are your concerns about either US mission creep 400 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: or just the continuation of what we're already doing. Certain 401 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: I've launched it there just so, oh, I think I 402 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: think we might have lost them there for a second. 403 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: I gotta say, that was a very artful question. So 404 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: I'm sorry that that one. Sorry that one got lost 405 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: and uh and does not actually seem to be one 406 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: that we're gonna be able to get an answer to. 407 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: So anyway, we're continuing to to go here and I 408 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: think we'll get him back shortly. So, oh, Dewey, Brian 409 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: did you hear my amazing Ukraine question? Because if not, 410 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: I can I did, sir, No, we got it. So 411 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: let's dive into this because it is a such a 412 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: big story. So a couple of things. First, black market weapons. 413 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: We got word late last week from Pentagon that they're 414 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: not tracking any of the weapons that they sent into Ukraine, 415 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: and that's you know, small arms stuff, you know, guns 416 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: of different kinds, but also stinger missiles and those can 417 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: take down airplanes. We've thought over a thousand of those 418 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: sent into Ukraine, so we've got no auditing of that, 419 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: no verification of any kind that it's actually being used 420 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: in a way that we intend. So that's the first 421 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: big piece. The second is natural gas wars. So we 422 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: know that Russia is clamping down on the out of 423 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: natural gas that's going into Europe. That's a big deal 424 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: because Europe is our biggest export market. So once the 425 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: European economy goes into the toilet, our factories can't send 426 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: as much stuff as before. Factories aren't tugging away. People 427 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: who work in this country are suffer according line, and 428 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: it also means that of course our good friends in Europe, 429 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: they are going to have a huge challenge this winner 430 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: keeping their homes heated. In fact, there's a lot of 431 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: discussion right now from France and Germany. They're saying we're 432 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: going to have to ration hot water. So all in all, 433 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: this is an absolute mess. But here's the last big piece. 434 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: Late last week, the Biden administration, there was a leak 435 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: of their classified assessment about what's going to be happening 436 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: next in Ukraine. And the bottom line is that the 437 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: Biden administration doesn't think that Ukraine can win even with 438 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 1: all the weapons that we can't even keep track of. 439 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: And that's a really big deal. Why are we dumping 440 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: all these weapons in And the European economy is collapsing 441 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: that we need to be a part of. We want 442 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: to export our stuff too, So a lot of really 443 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: bad things are happening right now. And I'll tell you 444 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: one of the biggest concerns that I have is what 445 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: happens to geopolitically in the world when we and our 446 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: European partners no longer have the leverage that we once 447 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 1: did to reach out to economies around the world, countries 448 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: around the world, former allies that are now getting into 449 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 1: the back pocket of Russia and China can missile last 450 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: one more time? Sorry? How long can this situation last? 451 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: So we got a war of attrition between Russia and 452 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: Ukraine and that's really us So how long can it last? 453 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: However long that the Russians can hold up in terms 454 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: of selling their oil to China and to India, and 455 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: that's not going away. So they've got a really great 456 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: war machine that they're they're funding right now, gobs and 457 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: gobs of oil. So how long can we standard how 458 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: long can we pump out the tens of billions of 459 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: dollars to prop up Kiev? That's really the question right 460 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: now because Kiev, by the way, is losing so many 461 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,959 Speaker 1: of their professional soldiers. We have some units over there 462 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: that are losing up to eighty percent. So at some 463 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: point it's going to become a question of do we 464 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: supply the soldiers? And right now that conversation is happening 465 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: within the Biden administration. They don't know how long the 466 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: Ukraine will be able to put up the kinds of 467 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: soldiers that they need to find this war. That's the 468 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: big question. When will we step in? 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Help us 497 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: set another new record in July hurt some cool data 498 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: that the people who listen on the podcast buck only 499 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: about ten percent of them overlap with radio. So it's 500 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: a rising tide that lifts all boats. As many different 501 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: ways as you can find us. We want to be 502 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: there for you, and we're doing something cool now. We're 503 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: starting to post some of our videos up on YouTube. Now, 504 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: some of you out there are gonna be like, I 505 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: don't care anything about YouTube, but let me tell you something. 506 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: My kids, and I bet your kids and grandkids are 507 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: obsessed with YouTube. They don't hardly watch television, but they 508 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: see everything on YouTube. So we want to be everywhere. 509 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: You can type in my name, you can type in 510 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: buck Sexton's name on YouTube, and you can watch video 511 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: versions of the radio show. We want you to subscribe. 512 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: It's one hundred percent free. But we want to be 513 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: able to distribute our content wherever the audience is so 514 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: that we can influence, hopefully in a positive way, the 515 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: direction the country is going. So we would love for 516 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: you to subscribe on iTunes, get your kids or grandkids 517 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: to subscribe. If you're talking to them about the show 518 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: and saying, hey, these guys are around your age, I 519 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: think you would like them. I think that's probably true, 520 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: at least my mom tells me and Buck's momlet that 521 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: were very, very likable peep in. I can't imagine anybody 522 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: disliking us. And you can find us on YouTube, you 523 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: can find us on iTunes, and certainly you can always 524 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: to Clay and Buck dot com. And I do think Buck, 525 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. I went downstairs during the last break 526 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: my seven year old. His favorite thing to do is 527 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: get on YouTube. And that's the first thing my boys 528 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: do when they went up in the morning. It used 529 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: to be or go see what happened the game. So 530 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: we're having a little bit of a little bit of 531 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: connectivity issue there. But the what Clay is talking about 532 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: are so true, which is that there are there are 533 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: these platforms that tend to correspond more with different different 534 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: age demographics, and as conservatives, we can't. One mistake that 535 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: I think we made in the past as a movement, 536 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: as a as an ideology of belief system is we 537 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: just seeded a lot of the public square. We're like, well, 538 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: the left controls it, so we'll just we'll do our 539 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: own thing. I mean, thank Heavens, we have the unsingable 540 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: aircraft carrier of free speech that is this show and 541 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: other talk radio shows like it, and thanks of is 542 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: always to rush for building this aircraft carry into what 543 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: it is. But we shouldn't just allow places like YouTube 544 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: and TikTok. In my now, TikTok is a little different 545 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: because of the surveillance issues, and we've just talked about 546 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: those at Brian Dean Wright. But we shouldn't just say 547 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: YouTube should be a place that is dominated by the 548 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: left and just let it go. There's rumble there's other 549 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: platforms that are free speech devoted, but I think we've 550 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: taken all of the above. We fight every We fight 551 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: on every battlefield where we can get a foothold and 552 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: try to make as much headway as we can, especially 553 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,479 Speaker 1: with you know, I want twenty to twenty five or 554 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: twenty to thirty year olds listening to this show. I mean, 555 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: obviously we've got millions of people who are our contemporaries, Clay, 556 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: and obviously Russia's audience, as we're so grateful stayed with 557 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: us in the numbers that they have given us a chance. 558 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: Let us try to keep this legacy going and as 559 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: much as we can keep the fight going really in 560 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: Russia's name and in his honor. But if we can 561 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: reach college kids, and we can do it on YouTube, 562 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: I mean, that's as you're saying, your kids are not 563 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: quite college age yet, but they're going to be high 564 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: school age here soon. Let's not let the left get 565 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: away with the brainwashing of the youth without any alternative, right, 566 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: Let's not say, let's not assume, well, they'll pay taxes, 567 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,479 Speaker 1: they'll turn thirty five, and they'll see reality. That is 568 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: ultimately the most important part of all of this is 569 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: we have got to be wherever that audience is. We 570 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: need to be in front of them on YouTube, and 571 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: we need to be in front of them on iTunes, 572 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: and we need to be in front of them on 573 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: Spotify and Stitcher and everywhere else, because you can't see 574 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: the battle ground anywhere anyway. That's why it's important for us. 575 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: We got the biggest radio show in the country. We 576 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: have got one of the biggest podcast audiences in the country, 577 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: and we want you guys, get your kids involved, get 578 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: your grandkids involved, share some clips, go subscribe. It's free. 579 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: Just type in Clay and Buck on YouTube and you'll 580 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: be able to find us there, and you'll be able 581 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: to find us everywhere. And I can't impress upon you enough. 582 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 1: If you're sitting around thinking, Oh, nobody cares about YouTube, 583 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: we just talked about, like Buck said, TikTok, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram. 584 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: We're trying to be omnipresident, be everywhere. And one of 585 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: the cool things about it is the audience isn't cannibalizing. 586 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: Everybody is so many different places. We had tens of 587 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: millions of you download the podcast in June. Most of 588 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: you listening to me right now on the podcast, including 589 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: my wife, Hi honey, Happy birthday tomorrow. Most of you 590 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: out there listening on the podcast are not daily listeners. 591 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 1: On the radio show. The audiences feed off of each other. 592 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: A rising tide lifts all boats, but they don't necessarily cannibalize, 593 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: which is hugely important in terms of continuing to grow 594 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: this audience in this influence. Now I'm excited, Clay that 595 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: we've got coming up here in the next hour, the 596 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: govern of Oklahoma joining us, Governor STIs because you know, 597 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: one thing is we've got, you know, fantastic audiences all 598 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: of the country and you know, the big states, the 599 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: big red states that we talk about off in Texas, Florida, Tennessee, 600 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: and we did. We had Governor Nome from South Dakota 601 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: on last week, great interview a discussion with her. But 602 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 1: you know, we got and that's obviously a small population state. 603 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: We want to give all due props and consideration and 604 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: attention to some of the other red states out there 605 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: who are models of smarter, better governance governance, and we 606 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: want the people who live in those states to know 607 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: that we're always thinking about what's going on with them too. 608 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: So well, the governor of Oklahoma, and there's some really 609 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 1: interesting stuff going on in his state. I'm looking forward 610 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: to having him join us here in the next hour, 611 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: so that'll be something to talk about. Because we've got 612 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: KTOK Oklahoma City listeners, We've got KAKC Tulsa listeners, we 613 00:35:54,800 --> 00:36:00,040 Speaker 1: got folks in Oklahoma City. I'm sorry, Oklahoma State, and 614 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: we come back. Stacy Abrams is on a board arguing 615 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: that defunding the police needs to happen. She's already said 616 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,919 Speaker 1: Georgia is the worst state in the nation. You will 617 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: not believe what Stacy Abrams has spent on private security. Buck, 618 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this story yet. I 619 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: saw it and my jaw dropped. They want to be 620 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: as protected as they possibly can be, but they don't 621 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: want you safe. These numbers are going to crystallize the 622 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,720 Speaker 1: lie of defund the police. We're going to talk about 623 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: it and more along with the governor of Oklahoma next 624 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: Thanks for anyway us on playing, Buck,