1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Coach. Obviously, you know, the Bengals losing Joe Burrow, that's 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: a devastating loss for them because he did he started 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: to really come on and do a lot of things 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: well in terms of, you know, their offense, there's much 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: change because they lose him and now they're going with 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: maybe a lesser experienced quarterback or is it pretty much? 7 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: You know, you go back and you look at the 8 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: tendencies and expect that everything to kind of be to say, well, 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: you know, you know, it felt bad for Joe to 10 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: lose a season like that. You know, he's a good player, 11 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: good kid. I'm sure he's gonna fight back and get 12 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: back to it next year. But when you look at 13 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: the scheme again, I'm looking at what Zach's calling just 14 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: you know, and you know, as you see how it 15 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: evolved during the season. You know, we had the bye weeks, 16 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: so we had a chance to go back through all 17 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: the tape. You know, you can see elements of you know, 18 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: some of the past places he's been mixed in with 19 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: some new stuff from um what they're doing in Cincinnati. 20 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: We played him last year when I was at Miami, 21 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: so you're you're seeing a little sprinkling of a bunch 22 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: of different not a bunch of different systems, is what 23 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: they do. So I'm not sure. I'm not sure what 24 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: they're gonna do. Now. Again, that's the that's the fun 25 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 1: part of it. We got prepared for all of it. Okay, 26 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: what's this, what's Alan do? What's okay? Well, we gotta 27 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: make sure we know what the quarterbacks do right there 28 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: and see how it's gonna play into the system. But 29 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: I'm not to be honest with you, but I don't 30 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: know what he's gonna do. I don't know what he's 31 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: gonna do. And we got prepared for everything. Um, I 32 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: know this. They've been pretty successful doing some of the 33 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: stuff they've been doing. I mean, you think about the 34 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: weapons they have and the blockers they have for those guys. 35 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you got elite receivers all over the field. 36 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: You got back you know. I heard somebody at some 37 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: point referred to Bernard as a backup back back. I'm like, 38 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: back up, I'm like, like, what are you talking about? Now. Again, 39 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: we'll see if he's ready for the game or not. 40 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: But like all those backs have been successful in the league, 41 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be interesting. I mean, I'm looking forward to. 42 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's gonna be a challenge on Sunday and 43 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: then just fun quick follow up in my nay. Obviously 44 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: Brent has a history with uh with Alan, and I'm 45 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: just wondering how much can that help you with possibly 46 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: having prepared for him. Um, you got you gotta remember, 47 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: you know, just how we look at the league and 48 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: how we look at um um when we're looking at 49 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: the opposing team, it is a people game, and like 50 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: we'm we want to know about the person to again 51 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: not saying we gotta know who his girlfriend wasn't high school? 52 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: I could care less, but it just like the make 53 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: of any insight you have on the person, it does 54 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: help you, you know, That's one thing we gather information 55 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: when we you know, guys have been different places, but 56 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: the films the film, and you gotta really go off 57 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: of that. But it's useful, you know, like if somebody 58 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: struggle with a certain thing in their past, it might 59 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: play into it. But you know it's really based off 60 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: of the film and us adjusting on Sunday. Um. Joe 61 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: was talking earlier about what Logan has brought to the 62 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: table in both in terms of like his leadership with 63 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: the young guys and what he allows you to do 64 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: with this versatility and all and stuff. But what has 65 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: it been like coaching Logan? What what have you kind 66 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: of learned just about him just spending all this time 67 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: around him now especially, I mean I was with Logan 68 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: earlier in my career, and like, you know, the diligence, 69 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: the smarts, all that stuff, and then the consistency. Think 70 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: that's a big part of it. And the thing that 71 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: stands out to me the questions. You know, thankfully, our 72 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: whole staff we're comfortable with our players asking questions. I mean, 73 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: that's a part of it. Because here's the thing. We 74 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: we give the what we try to do. We try 75 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: to teach the fundamentals that Joe wants us to teach. 76 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: We practice um for them to get better at the 77 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: fundamentals of what we want to do. We implement game 78 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: plans to take away what the other teams do and 79 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: try to you know, win in situationally. But when it 80 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: comes down to it, it's the players defense is their defense. 81 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: They take ownership of it. Now, does it happen at 82 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: the beginning, no, But at some point they take ownership 83 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: of it. And as they take ownership and they feel 84 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: that ownership of the defense here comes to better questions past, 85 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:43,839 Speaker 1: So why are we doing this, what we're thinking here, 86 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: or what they did this? Oh I might have forgot that. 87 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: Let me go over that boom. Like that's one thing 88 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: that Logan he has no problem doing that. And it's 89 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: not the it's a great thing, you know, Like you know, 90 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: you deal with some of the younger players, they're a 91 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: little hesitance sometimes to ask those questions because like I'm like, 92 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: I take of Hey, let's talk about what they did 93 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: this they lined up in this bunch, if they lined 94 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: up in this stack. I mean as one of the 95 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: best things about Logan to me, he's not afraid to 96 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: ask those questions and get the answer. And again it 97 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: might he might already know the answer. He's trying to 98 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: get it for the guys to want to ask. And 99 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: I think that's a that's a that's a huge thing 100 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: for a young team and and also in the new 101 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: system with a new coordinator, new coaches, that helps. Hey, 102 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: Pat Logan told us the other day we were asking about, 103 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: you know, disguising coverages and just the idea what goes 104 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: into it, and he kind of dropped a point that 105 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: I don't forgot lost, but it's stuck with me that 106 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: he said that there are times when you disguised so 107 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: much that sometimes you need to remember to just play 108 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: it straight and whatever you're lined up in, maybe you 109 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: have to show that to the quarterback to kind of 110 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, take the you know, whether it's lose 111 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: the scent of what you're trying to do. How important 112 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: a component is that when you're trying to disguise, the 113 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: idea of making sure you do play it straight. Sometimes 114 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: each game is different. Um, And then not to get 115 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: all I'm not trying to get philosophical and try to 116 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: sound smart or anything, but like each series is different, 117 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: each situation is different, each play is different. So as 118 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: you look at all that, right, you look at all that, 119 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes the smart way to go is that 120 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: if you're gonna play split safety, show split safety and 121 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: let them see it split safety. That's what that's what 122 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: you gotta do. Somebody a single high, show it to him, 123 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: because if you're always disguising what's gonna happen, you get 124 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: into a pattern. Single high. Oh, every time a single 125 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: high is going to split safety or something like it, 126 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: split safety is going to single high like I mean, then, 127 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: but you know we can back that by going through 128 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: it and then above all else And you know, any 129 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: coach would tell you this is nothing unique to us. 130 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: You always when we talk about that ownership, given the 131 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: players ownership of the defense, Listen, I might as we 132 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: go through the disguises, don't let a disguise screw up 133 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: you doing your job, period, period. Don't let a disguise 134 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: doing your job. So again you have to talk exactly. 135 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I can't speak for Logan, but 136 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: to me, the whole disguise deal when you're just trying 137 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: to go through it as a coordinator, as a position 138 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: coach is playing that that delicate game there, And again 139 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: I mean, how much do we the Scott I don't know. 140 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: I mean, like, shoot, I could tell when we're doing stuff. 141 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. They're not that good at yet. 142 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm just joking with them. We'll take two more dugging 143 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: and Jordan Dunn, Hey, Pat, I mean, I know the 144 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: third down defense was kind of a source subject earlier 145 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: in the season. Why is it gotten so much better 146 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: in the last handful of weeks and obviously against Philly, well, 147 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: it starts with the players. The players are taking ownership 148 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: of it and doing a good job. Then after that 149 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: it goes to the coaches. So you know, Jerome Henderson, 150 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: he does a great job of laying out exactly what 151 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: those guys are gonna do, giving that to the players. 152 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: But before it gets to the players, Jerome does a 153 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: good job with other coaches presenting it to Jerome presents 154 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: it to the coaches. In turn, we all look at 155 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: it then the coaches because all the other coaches watching too. 156 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: Brett and Spencer involved with the rush. Kevin's kind of 157 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: in between the two involved with the rush and the coverage. 158 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: So we take the input there and really I'm just 159 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: sitting back. I got my opinions and what I saw 160 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: on tape, and I'm taking the inputting feedback from those guys. 161 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: Then we draw up the plan. Then we draw up 162 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: the plan, and then because it's really because of what 163 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: the assistant coaches do in terms of presenting the information, 164 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: then we go out there as a group and we 165 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: give it to the players, tell them what they're doing, 166 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: tell them what we need to do, and they take 167 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: ownership of it and it's been better. Now again, does 168 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: that mean anything? For this week. Absolutely not. This week 169 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: about executing against the team who has all types of 170 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: weapons around the field, whether it's the backs, tight ends, 171 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: and then on top of the receiver that then you 172 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: have the receivers. It's all about execution. So but I 173 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: would say they answer your question starts with Jerome giving 174 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: it to us, the coaches giving it to me, developing 175 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: the plan, giving it to the players, them taking ownership. 176 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: Last one, last one here Jordan's hey, hot, how you doing? Apologies? 177 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: But what is Xavier man? I didn't hear what Xavier McKinney. 178 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: What would he bring to this defensive He d comes back, Well, 179 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: you know the thing that we saw, you know in 180 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: the in the I said spring, we didn't have a spring, 181 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: Well we did kind of zoo we zoomed the spring. 182 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, he's real smart over zoom. No, but in 183 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: the beginning of training camp and what we saw on tape, 184 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: you know, good athletes, smart player, situationally aware. The thing 185 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: is he's been grinding this whole time and now, unfortunately 186 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: for him, has been the classroom. I feel bad for him, 187 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: But now with the chance to possibly play, I mean, 188 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: the thing he brings us, he's a good football player 189 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: out there. I mean, that's a simple way to put it. 190 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: With some position flex I mean, you know, this guy 191 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: can play in the deep part of the field, he 192 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: could play down low. I mean, he could play all 193 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: over the field. I mean, so it's always good to 194 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: have those pieces. And on top of that again, but 195 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: the thing is this, it's still gonna be like he's 196 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: still young. We can't put too much on him. You know, 197 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: whatever he what, if he plays and whatever snaps he plays, 198 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: he's gonna earn those snaps. But you know, I mean, well, 199 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: you know, he's got ways to go right now. But well, 200 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: you know, I'm glad to have him back in the 201 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: fold in terms of practicing and stuff.