WEBVTT - DNC Shorts: The Machetes

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome, Hey bam, You're about to hear a replay of

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<v Speaker 3>one of our interviews from our live stream at the

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<v Speaker 3>Democratic National Convention.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome home, y'all.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I want to wakee Brittany Britney Pregnant Cunningham. We're

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<v Speaker 4>an activist writer and a friend of ours.

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<v Speaker 5>We are a part of a Machete's crew. Were waiting

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<v Speaker 5>for one more to join us. Brittany, we are so

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<v Speaker 5>thrilled for you to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>Sick.

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<v Speaker 5>You're an activist out of Missouri.

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<v Speaker 3>You also served on a council or the President Barack Obama.

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<v Speaker 3>You do a lot of social commentating, but also a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of work on the ground. Still have a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of appreciation.

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<v Speaker 5>Then she and Latasha both do some amazing singing. But

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<v Speaker 5>she's also as Angel said a Machety member, So thank

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<v Speaker 5>you for being here.

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<v Speaker 6>But you know, I thought I'm a little bit mad

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<v Speaker 6>because I love you all so much. But the agreement

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<v Speaker 6>was that if I was gonna do Native lampid, I

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<v Speaker 6>could not speak after Latasha. The word has been misinformation,

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<v Speaker 6>Benediction has been prayed, the collection play has been passed

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<v Speaker 6>right everybody out.

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<v Speaker 5>In the vestibule. Now it's the letter every time, every

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<v Speaker 5>time she delivers a sermon.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really happy you're joining us on separate because one,

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<v Speaker 3>I just love when we all get to be together

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<v Speaker 3>as our sister circle. We were in Mexico together a

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<v Speaker 3>few weeks. You can check some of our thirst traps

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<v Speaker 3>if you.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, but we can. I try to stand that.

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<v Speaker 3>What is the task for people watching at home right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I think you know, I was just talking to

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<v Speaker 3>one of the mayors earlier saying this was a The

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<v Speaker 3>plot line here was so unbelievable. It rivals a Tyler

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<v Speaker 3>Perry plot. If this we're in a movie, I say,

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<v Speaker 3>this is ridiculous. It's just not believable. But yet here

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<v Speaker 3>we are when the country turn like that. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>even a month ago, uh that Vice President Harris is

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<v Speaker 3>now our nominee. So for all the people who were

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<v Speaker 3>a bit apathetic who are now excited and hopeful. What

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<v Speaker 3>beyond that hope and excitement do people need to be

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<v Speaker 3>doing right now to make this a decisive win.

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<v Speaker 6>I love this question because it's action oriented. And Natasha

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<v Speaker 6>and I were together last night having a conversation about

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<v Speaker 6>organizing as folks.

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<v Speaker 5>Listen. I was going to say, you're already sweep, let's

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<v Speaker 5>be honest about it text message. But don't worry, b

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<v Speaker 5>They did the same thing. They watched the space together.

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<v Speaker 5>But you really feel like I'm in the middle, midir

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<v Speaker 5>and you the youngest, so you know you already Kitchen,

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<v Speaker 5>I do it? Can we talk about that at some.

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<v Speaker 6>Point because nobody acknowledges that, but it's true. I get

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<v Speaker 6>a real rough. But this is the right question, right

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<v Speaker 6>because we often are talking about a lot of the

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<v Speaker 6>things that we are dealing with, the trauma that we endure,

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<v Speaker 6>the ways we've had to survive and be creative and innovative,

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<v Speaker 6>and yet we often don't have the time left to

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<v Speaker 6>be imaginative, to be strategic, to actually dream up the

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<v Speaker 6>world that we deserve and say, let's plan backwards from

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<v Speaker 6>it and figure out how we get there together. Because

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<v Speaker 6>it's not freedom if we don't get there together.

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<v Speaker 7>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>So I really think that this question about action is

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<v Speaker 6>so important, But the action starts within. You actually have

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<v Speaker 6>to begin to take the time to expand your imagination.

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<v Speaker 6>Like sit outside for five minutes, stare at the sky

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<v Speaker 6>and say, like, if I'm truly going to be my

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<v Speaker 6>ancestor's wildest dreams.

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<v Speaker 5>Then how wild can my dreams get?

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<v Speaker 6>Because there are a lot of folks for whom this

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<v Speaker 6>week and the culmination of it, and the nomination of

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<v Speaker 6>Vice President Harris to the ticket will be their wildest dreams.

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<v Speaker 5>But guess what we here?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so now you've got to go dream bigger. Now

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<v Speaker 6>we have to go idy eight further. Now we have

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<v Speaker 6>to go expand. So I think that that's the first

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<v Speaker 6>thing we do. The second thing that we do, in particular,

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<v Speaker 6>is we have honest conversations with one another. There is

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<v Speaker 6>a tendency in our community to say go vote because

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<v Speaker 6>I said so, yeah, to say go vote because I

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<v Speaker 6>literally has watched somebody say I'll put you over my

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<v Speaker 6>knee and spank you, and I was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 6>think you should be telegrown people that ay, But also like,

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<v Speaker 6>when is the last time somebody ever concious did you

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<v Speaker 6>into anything, like when somebody said to you you were

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<v Speaker 6>an actual child people, As an actual child, you rebella.

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<v Speaker 5>So what we're going to do as an adult? Exactly?

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<v Speaker 6>There is a reason why people are feeling squeezed out.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a reason why folks are saying, well, you told

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<v Speaker 6>me four years ago is the most important election in

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<v Speaker 6>my lifetime, and now you're telling me again, and you

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<v Speaker 6>said that eight years ago, So how is it the

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<v Speaker 6>most important? Every time?

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<v Speaker 5>I thought that was last time? Exactly Exactly.

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<v Speaker 6>So we have to acknowledge where people are and then

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<v Speaker 6>encourage them, as Latasha has been saying, to actually dig

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<v Speaker 6>deep and reach into our own power. I'm not a

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<v Speaker 6>person who likes to leave any tool or power.

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<v Speaker 5>On the table.

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<v Speaker 6>Like if I'm trying to get something done for my son,

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<v Speaker 6>for y'all nephew, then I'm gonna go come on and

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<v Speaker 6>back to make it happen. Why would I not do

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<v Speaker 6>that for my people? Why would I not vote and protest?

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<v Speaker 6>Why would I not protest and strategize? Why would I not

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<v Speaker 6>strategize and use continent media Like I'm not leaving nothing

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<v Speaker 6>on the table for our freedom.

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<v Speaker 5>I refuse to do that.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the kind of activity that we have to decide

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<v Speaker 6>to be engaged in every single day.

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<v Speaker 5>I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to tell y'all real quick while the

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<v Speaker 4>show's going on, this is actually one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 4>parts of the Democratic National Convention. But it's real special today.

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<v Speaker 4>The role call is happening right now.

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<v Speaker 5>I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>And Britt, while you were talking about imagination, you saw

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<v Speaker 4>Wes Moore holding Mike like a hip hop artist, right, Governor,

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<v Speaker 4>it was dope Governor Wes Moore, our black governor from Maryland.

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<v Speaker 5>Governor from Maryland, but our black.

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<v Speaker 4>Governor because we ain't got enough, okay, saying that Maryland

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<v Speaker 4>is committing its votes to Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 5>What a historic moment.

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<v Speaker 4>You talk about imagination all the time, You talk about

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<v Speaker 4>it all the time. They're also holding everybody, including our

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<v Speaker 4>dear sister Eron, So talk about imagination that is.

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<v Speaker 3>But can we just take a moment to acknowledge that

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<v Speaker 3>though yes said the historic candidate at the first black

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<v Speaker 3>woman president or the president alex because I speaking into existence,

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<v Speaker 3>Holilausha you I hope you don't mind me violent lating

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<v Speaker 3>our confidentiality agreement.

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<v Speaker 5>And talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>Yesasha, what hell? It's fine, But Latasha, we were all

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<v Speaker 3>at the Machete group chat. We were in there and

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<v Speaker 3>we talked eight thousands. Have you missed the group chat

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<v Speaker 3>for an hour?

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<v Speaker 5>You come back in the s this is this is

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<v Speaker 5>worth violating?

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<v Speaker 8>Is she on the stage with three when we were.

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<v Speaker 3>Talking about the chances for vice president here and Latasha

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<v Speaker 3>wrote this, I'm like this is going in my book.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a dissertation where Latasha was saying, essentially, we

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<v Speaker 3>are spiritual beings having a human experience and it's just time,

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<v Speaker 3>like there was no other option, that it is time

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<v Speaker 3>the work that black women have done. And you I

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<v Speaker 3>can't echo your words as beautifully and poetically and lyrically

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<v Speaker 3>as you do, but I've read that and got teary.

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<v Speaker 3>I because there is no other option other than for

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<v Speaker 3>this to happen. We talk about the dream and the

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<v Speaker 3>hope of the slave, and some would argue the dream

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<v Speaker 3>and the hope of the enslaves was not to succeed

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<v Speaker 3>here in America, but to go home, back to our roots.

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<v Speaker 3>And here we have a convergence, a confluence of all

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<v Speaker 3>of that happening. We have gone to the motherland together

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<v Speaker 3>and now we have this bridge of the enslaved everywhere.

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<v Speaker 5>She is the daughter of immigrants.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, people don't realize that the enslaved were also in Jamaica.

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<v Speaker 5>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>We are reaching across continents, We are reaching across nations

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<v Speaker 3>and leading the way here in America. And I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>I have goosebumps. So for what gives you? Because I

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<v Speaker 3>share that spirit with you? What gives you that self assured,

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<v Speaker 3>unshaken faith that the wind is at our back?

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<v Speaker 5>Now, this is going to.

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<v Speaker 7>Happen because we're here, and I need people to sit

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<v Speaker 7>in it. We are here. We are literally the children,

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<v Speaker 7>the great great great grandchildren of those who there. They

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<v Speaker 7>were so the family, our families, our ancestors were so dehumanized,

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<v Speaker 7>they weren't even considered full human beings. Right that to

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<v Speaker 7>be able to read right here, we are literally running colleges,

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<v Speaker 7>creating colleges, establishing them.

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<v Speaker 1>Were one carries.

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<v Speaker 5>So let me people.

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<v Speaker 3>We are joined by two additional machete members, part of

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<v Speaker 3>our machete group chat. We have the amazing Carrie Champion,

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<v Speaker 3>you all know Ferry Champions.

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<v Speaker 5>She has done amazing work in media and sports.

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<v Speaker 3>She's constantly calling me asking me to explain something sports

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<v Speaker 3>related to her as exhausting, but she is amazing. You've

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<v Speaker 3>seen Carrie everywhere. I call her the Catwalk Assassin. You

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<v Speaker 3>can see why and be my sister in journalism. Aaron Haynes.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you all see her, and so many people

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<v Speaker 3>tell me how much they enjoy Aaron Haynes, who is

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<v Speaker 3>the face of the nineteenth Please check out her newsletter

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<v Speaker 3>in that platform. But so many people Aaron always tell

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<v Speaker 3>me how amazing you are on television, and I was

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<v Speaker 3>telling Angela on the way here, I'm like, they don't

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<v Speaker 3>even know the real Errand because as great as she is.

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<v Speaker 5>On MSNBC at listen the swats ear.

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<v Speaker 3>She is the wittiest and funniest in our group test,

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<v Speaker 3>but also just so smart. Your scope on things so

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<v Speaker 3>it is I just feel like this is a dream,

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<v Speaker 3>just a technical thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Who are you brand? And you can lift up your

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<v Speaker 5>shar I'm so sorry my fickness is pushing you out.

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<v Speaker 2>You're just one.

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<v Speaker 5>You had to tell the people that let's start. Let's

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<v Speaker 5>start with Aaron and will work our way down.

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<v Speaker 8>Aaron.

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<v Speaker 3>As as a journalist, you take a different scope of things.

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<v Speaker 3>What what does this moment mean for you? Because I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like some people enter this space as a journalist.

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<v Speaker 3>Some people enter this space as a woman. Some people

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<v Speaker 3>enter this space as a black person. Where are you

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<v Speaker 3>right now?

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<v Speaker 5>In what order?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, look, got to unmute her. Listen to black women.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm speaking.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm speaking exactly from freaking to the d n C.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, here we go.

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<v Speaker 5>She's not kidding.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, listen, I'm all of those things obviously at once.

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<v Speaker 8>I bring all those lived identities to who I am

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<v Speaker 8>as a journalist. Don't apologize for that, but you know,

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<v Speaker 8>I really thought about, you know, boarding my plane in

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<v Speaker 8>Chicago on Sunday. Sunday was the one hundred and fourth

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<v Speaker 8>anniversary of the nineteenth Amendment, which is the amendment for

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<v Speaker 8>which my newsroom is named, an amendment which guaranteed the

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<v Speaker 8>right for some, but not all, women, the right to vote. Hello,

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<v Speaker 8>we had to fight twice as hard or even longer

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<v Speaker 8>before we had our full access to the franchise. We're

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<v Speaker 8>still fighting right our access to this democracy still being challenged.

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<v Speaker 5>You see that.

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<v Speaker 8>We could have seen that this week coming into this convention, right,

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<v Speaker 8>which could have been a contested convention, open convention. That's

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<v Speaker 8>not what we're seeing here. We are seeing a democratic

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<v Speaker 8>party that is unified behind a black woman who could

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<v Speaker 8>become the first woman president of the United States. That

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<v Speaker 8>is not a moment that we necessarily saw coming when

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<v Speaker 8>we started the Nineteenth four almost five years ago. Literally

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<v Speaker 8>the Nineteenth started after the twenty sixteen election, when we

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<v Speaker 8>saw these tired tropes around electability, around readiness, around and right,

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<v Speaker 8>and we knew that there was a different way to

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<v Speaker 8>talk about women, to talk about our leadership, to talk

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<v Speaker 8>about gender and our politics in this country, in the

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<v Speaker 8>emerging small de democracy that you talked about so much, Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 8>that you continue to talk about. So yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>I come to a convention where the diversity that I'm

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<v Speaker 8>seeing in the arena is reflected on stage as well

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<v Speaker 8>as in the audience. That's not something that I saw

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<v Speaker 8>just a month ago at the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee.

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<v Speaker 8>That is striking to me. I think, we know it's real,

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<v Speaker 8>but to see it happening, to see it in reality,

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<v Speaker 8>a true representative democracy really in this arena, and abortion,

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<v Speaker 8>which we knew was on the ballot, was on stage

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<v Speaker 8>last night. That's still remarkable to think about. So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know, as a journalist, this is just a

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<v Speaker 8>remarkable moment to cover as a black woman. I am

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<v Speaker 8>thinking about everybody from Shirley Chisholm to Jesse Jackson to

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, just so many people that paved the way

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<v Speaker 8>for this moment to be possible. Mignon Moore, Donna Brazil,

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<v Speaker 8>Lea Daughtriyolanda Carroll, I mean all just front and center

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<v Speaker 8>in this moment. They helped to manifest the moment in

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<v Speaker 8>which we now find ourselves. And as a journalist, I

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<v Speaker 8>mean I can't not mention them in this conversation. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>there's a lot there. And obviously the Nineteenth is feeling

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<v Speaker 8>pretty good about, you know, the idea that we had

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<v Speaker 8>four years ago, because it's all on full display this week.

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<v Speaker 5>And your comridge is constantly beautiful good.

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<v Speaker 4>Also the host of the Amendment podcast, which we didn't say,

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<v Speaker 4>And speaking of podcast hosts, we also have Carrie Chamber

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<v Speaker 4>the podcast hosts, all the podcast hosts, but we also

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<v Speaker 4>have Carrie Champion here. What I love about you being here,

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<v Speaker 4>Carrie is this isn't something where you had to come.

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<v Speaker 4>You felt compelled to come. I know you have that

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<v Speaker 4>headset on, but if you don't mind picking up that

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<v Speaker 4>mic we'd love to talk to you about what made

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<v Speaker 4>you want to be here. And Andrew Gillham just because

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<v Speaker 4>the women are occupied with six of these seats.

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<v Speaker 5>The way in here at double.

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<v Speaker 2>Dutch first, second, first, and foremost, thank you guys for

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<v Speaker 2>having me. I was just with I'm standing I just

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about my machetes for a minute. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>standing out front. I'm waiting for someone to bring me

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<v Speaker 2>a credential. And who do I see just walk up

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<v Speaker 2>on me and was like, no, I got you, follow me,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a pass. We so are in sync with

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<v Speaker 2>one another. Of all the people that I could see

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<v Speaker 2>standing in front of the United Center, Aaron walks up

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<v Speaker 2>on me and gives me of all the people, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was just like, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Love you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I love this, I love the sisterhood.

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<v Speaker 1>I love what you all are doing.

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<v Speaker 2>You all know that, Andrew, I love you, and I

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<v Speaker 2>love I love Britt because she's letting one of my

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<v Speaker 2>butt cheeks.

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<v Speaker 7>Just come to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet holding it is yet holding on. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>workout for the day. So I am a CNN contributor,

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<v Speaker 2>but I did not have to come. But I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>if I missed this moment, I miss I miss Barrock's moment.

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<v Speaker 2>But if I missed this moment, this to me felt

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<v Speaker 2>so substantial and so bigger than us. And I felt

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<v Speaker 2>like this appointment in which Kamala Harris has in this moment,

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<v Speaker 2>felt divine. It is a testimony to everything can happen

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<v Speaker 2>in a blink of anyma over overnight. My God is

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<v Speaker 2>so real, and so I was able to witness what

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<v Speaker 2>happened to this woman three, four or five months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody could have told me this is where we would be,

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<v Speaker 2>And in an instant, I am sitting here and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>all like, this is a testimony to those who believe

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<v Speaker 2>and who have chosen. So what's meant for you is

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<v Speaker 2>meant for you and no one can take it away

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<v Speaker 2>from you. And I'm watching in real time, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I had to be here because I live that. I

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<v Speaker 2>believe that we all do. We've been in these moments

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<v Speaker 2>and it's something special in my world of sports. As

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<v Speaker 2>we all know. I said this, it's not an accident

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<v Speaker 2>where you have these two entities where women's athletics is

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<v Speaker 2>taken off in a way in which we have never

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<v Speaker 2>seen before. And then when we look at women in

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<v Speaker 2>the world fighting and we're saying, and I've said this before,

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<v Speaker 2>not on my damn watch, you want to take away

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<v Speaker 2>these things bit by bit. You played your hand, you

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<v Speaker 2>over played your hand. And now we are here and

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<v Speaker 2>we are righteous, and we are taking back what is ours.

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<v Speaker 2>There is this idea in sports that everyone needs a

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<v Speaker 2>good a good story, a good rivalry story, always needs

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<v Speaker 2>a really good person, and they need a foil. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>they need a good athlete and they need a foil.

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<v Speaker 2>But in this instance, women, black women are the foil.

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<v Speaker 2>We are taking it and we're taking it back. You

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<v Speaker 2>thought you were a superhero, but the story is ours.

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<v Speaker 2>And I am so grateful to be here. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>more excited because I thought I was coming on tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>but since you guys have me on to day, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just hanging out but checking.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, we are so grateful, y'all. We promise y'all, we

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<v Speaker 5>need it.

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<v Speaker 4>Only about five minutes say your time, so we gonna

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<v Speaker 4>let y'all head on out. Natasha got people to see in,

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<v Speaker 4>things to do. We got some other guests coming up,

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<v Speaker 4>but we are so so grateful for you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, you're welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me put eyes on you.

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