1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,119 Speaker 1: with Reasent Choice Media. 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 3: Welcome, Hey bam, You're about to hear a replay of 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 3: one of our interviews from our live stream at the 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 3: Democratic National Convention. 7 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 4: Now. 8 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 3: If you want to listen to or watch the full stream, 9 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 3: be sure to check out links in the episode description. 10 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 3: You can also find a full list of all the 11 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 3: guests we've interviewed. 12 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 5: Welcome home, y'all. 13 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 4: Yes, I want to wakee Brittany Britney Pregnant Cunningham. We're 14 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 4: an activist writer and a friend of ours. 15 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 5: We are a part of a Machete's crew. Were waiting 16 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 5: for one more to join us. Brittany, we are so 17 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:44,639 Speaker 5: thrilled for you to be here. 18 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: Sick. 19 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 5: You're an activist out of Missouri. 20 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 3: You also served on a council or the President Barack Obama. 21 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 3: You do a lot of social commentating, but also a 22 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 3: lot of work on the ground. Still have a lot 23 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 3: of appreciation. 24 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 5: Then she and Latasha both do some amazing singing. But 25 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 5: she's also as Angel said a Machety member, So thank 26 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 5: you for being here. 27 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 6: But you know, I thought I'm a little bit mad 28 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 6: because I love you all so much. But the agreement 29 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 6: was that if I was gonna do Native lampid, I 30 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 6: could not speak after Latasha. The word has been misinformation, 31 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 6: Benediction has been prayed, the collection play has been passed 32 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 6: right everybody out. 33 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 5: In the vestibule. Now it's the letter every time, every 34 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 5: time she delivers a sermon. 35 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: I'm really happy you're joining us on separate because one, 36 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: I just love when we all get to be together 37 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 3: as our sister circle. We were in Mexico together a 38 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 3: few weeks. You can check some of our thirst traps 39 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 3: if you. 40 00:01:49,200 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 5: Like, but we can. I try to stand that. 41 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 3: What is the task for people watching at home right now? 42 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 3: Because I think you know, I was just talking to 43 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 3: one of the mayors earlier saying this was a The 44 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 3: plot line here was so unbelievable. It rivals a Tyler 45 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 3: Perry plot. If this we're in a movie, I say, 46 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 3: this is ridiculous. It's just not believable. But yet here 47 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 3: we are when the country turn like that. It wasn't 48 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 3: even a month ago, uh that Vice President Harris is 49 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 3: now our nominee. So for all the people who were 50 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 3: a bit apathetic who are now excited and hopeful. What 51 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 3: beyond that hope and excitement do people need to be 52 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 3: doing right now to make this a decisive win. 53 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 6: I love this question because it's action oriented. And Natasha 54 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 6: and I were together last night having a conversation about 55 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 6: organizing as folks. 56 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 5: Listen. I was going to say, you're already sweep, let's 57 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 5: be honest about it text message. But don't worry, b 58 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 5: They did the same thing. They watched the space together. 59 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 5: But you really feel like I'm in the middle, midir 60 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 5: and you the youngest, so you know you already Kitchen, 61 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 5: I do it? Can we talk about that at some. 62 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 6: Point because nobody acknowledges that, but it's true. I get 63 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 6: a real rough. But this is the right question, right 64 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 6: because we often are talking about a lot of the 65 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 6: things that we are dealing with, the trauma that we endure, 66 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 6: the ways we've had to survive and be creative and innovative, 67 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 6: and yet we often don't have the time left to 68 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 6: be imaginative, to be strategic, to actually dream up the 69 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 6: world that we deserve and say, let's plan backwards from 70 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 6: it and figure out how we get there together. Because 71 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 6: it's not freedom if we don't get there together. 72 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 7: Right. 73 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 6: So I really think that this question about action is 74 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 6: so important, But the action starts within. You actually have 75 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 6: to begin to take the time to expand your imagination. 76 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 6: Like sit outside for five minutes, stare at the sky 77 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 6: and say, like, if I'm truly going to be my 78 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 6: ancestor's wildest dreams. 79 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 5: Then how wild can my dreams get? 80 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 6: Because there are a lot of folks for whom this 81 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 6: week and the culmination of it, and the nomination of 82 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 6: Vice President Harris to the ticket will be their wildest dreams. 83 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 5: But guess what we here? 84 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, so now you've got to go dream bigger. Now 85 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 6: we have to go idy eight further. Now we have 86 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 6: to go expand. So I think that that's the first 87 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 6: thing we do. The second thing that we do, in particular, 88 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 6: is we have honest conversations with one another. There is 89 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 6: a tendency in our community to say go vote because 90 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 6: I said so, yeah, to say go vote because I 91 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 6: literally has watched somebody say I'll put you over my 92 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 6: knee and spank you, and I was like, I don't 93 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 6: think you should be telegrown people that ay, But also like, 94 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 6: when is the last time somebody ever concious did you 95 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 6: into anything, like when somebody said to you you were 96 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 6: an actual child people, As an actual child, you rebella. 97 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 5: So what we're going to do as an adult? Exactly? 98 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 6: There is a reason why people are feeling squeezed out. 99 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 6: There's a reason why folks are saying, well, you told 100 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 6: me four years ago is the most important election in 101 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 6: my lifetime, and now you're telling me again, and you 102 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 6: said that eight years ago, So how is it the 103 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 6: most important? Every time? 104 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 5: I thought that was last time? Exactly Exactly. 105 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 6: So we have to acknowledge where people are and then 106 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 6: encourage them, as Latasha has been saying, to actually dig 107 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 6: deep and reach into our own power. I'm not a 108 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 6: person who likes to leave any tool or power. 109 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 5: On the table. 110 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 6: Like if I'm trying to get something done for my son, 111 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 6: for y'all nephew, then I'm gonna go come on and 112 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 6: back to make it happen. Why would I not do 113 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 6: that for my people? Why would I not vote and protest? 114 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 6: Why would I not protest and strategize? Why would I not 115 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,239 Speaker 6: strategize and use continent media Like I'm not leaving nothing 116 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 6: on the table for our freedom. 117 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 5: I refuse to do that. 118 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 6: That's the kind of activity that we have to decide 119 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 6: to be engaged in every single day. 120 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 5: I love that. 121 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 4: I just want to tell y'all real quick while the 122 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 4: show's going on, this is actually one of my favorite 123 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 4: parts of the Democratic National Convention. But it's real special today. 124 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 4: The role call is happening right now. 125 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 5: I love it. 126 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 4: And Britt, while you were talking about imagination, you saw 127 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 4: Wes Moore holding Mike like a hip hop artist, right, Governor, 128 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 4: it was dope Governor Wes Moore, our black governor from Maryland. 129 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 5: Governor from Maryland, but our black. 130 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 4: Governor because we ain't got enough, okay, saying that Maryland 131 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 4: is committing its votes to Kamala Harris. 132 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:36,679 Speaker 5: What a historic moment. 133 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 4: You talk about imagination all the time, You talk about 134 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 4: it all the time. They're also holding everybody, including our 135 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 4: dear sister Eron, So talk about imagination that is. 136 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 3: But can we just take a moment to acknowledge that 137 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 3: though yes said the historic candidate at the first black 138 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 3: woman president or the president alex because I speaking into existence, 139 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 3: Holilausha you I hope you don't mind me violent lating 140 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 3: our confidentiality agreement. 141 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 5: And talk about. 142 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: Yesasha, what hell? It's fine, But Latasha, we were all 143 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: at the Machete group chat. We were in there and 144 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: we talked eight thousands. Have you missed the group chat 145 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: for an hour? 146 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 5: You come back in the s this is this is 147 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 5: worth violating? 148 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 8: Is she on the stage with three when we were. 149 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 3: Talking about the chances for vice president here and Latasha 150 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 3: wrote this, I'm like this is going in my book. 151 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 3: It was a dissertation where Latasha was saying, essentially, we 152 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 3: are spiritual beings having a human experience and it's just time, 153 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: like there was no other option, that it is time 154 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: the work that black women have done. And you I 155 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 3: can't echo your words as beautifully and poetically and lyrically 156 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 3: as you do, but I've read that and got teary. 157 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: I because there is no other option other than for 158 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 3: this to happen. We talk about the dream and the 159 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: hope of the slave, and some would argue the dream 160 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: and the hope of the enslaves was not to succeed 161 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: here in America, but to go home, back to our roots. 162 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 3: And here we have a convergence, a confluence of all 163 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 3: of that happening. We have gone to the motherland together 164 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 3: and now we have this bridge of the enslaved everywhere. 165 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 5: She is the daughter of immigrants. 166 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 3: Yes, people don't realize that the enslaved were also in Jamaica. 167 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 5: Exactly. 168 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: We are reaching across continents, We are reaching across nations 169 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 3: and leading the way here in America. And I'm just 170 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 3: I have goosebumps. So for what gives you? Because I 171 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 3: share that spirit with you? What gives you that self assured, 172 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 3: unshaken faith that the wind is at our back? 173 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 5: Now, this is going to. 174 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 7: Happen because we're here, and I need people to sit 175 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 7: in it. We are here. We are literally the children, 176 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 7: the great great great grandchildren of those who there. They 177 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 7: were so the family, our families, our ancestors were so dehumanized, 178 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 7: they weren't even considered full human beings. Right that to 179 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 7: be able to read right here, we are literally running colleges, 180 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 7: creating colleges, establishing them. 181 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: Were one carries. 182 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 5: So let me people. 183 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: We are joined by two additional machete members, part of 184 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 3: our machete group chat. We have the amazing Carrie Champion, 185 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: you all know Ferry Champions. 186 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 5: She has done amazing work in media and sports. 187 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 3: She's constantly calling me asking me to explain something sports 188 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 3: related to her as exhausting, but she is amazing. You've 189 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 3: seen Carrie everywhere. I call her the Catwalk Assassin. You 190 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 3: can see why and be my sister in journalism. Aaron Haynes. 191 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 3: I know you all see her, and so many people 192 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 3: tell me how much they enjoy Aaron Haynes, who is 193 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 3: the face of the nineteenth Please check out her newsletter 194 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 3: in that platform. But so many people Aaron always tell 195 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 3: me how amazing you are on television, and I was 196 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 3: telling Angela on the way here, I'm like, they don't 197 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 3: even know the real Errand because as great as she is. 198 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 5: On MSNBC at listen the swats ear. 199 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 3: She is the wittiest and funniest in our group test, 200 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 3: but also just so smart. Your scope on things so 201 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: it is I just feel like this is a dream, 202 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 3: just a technical thing. 203 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 5: Who are you brand? And you can lift up your 204 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 5: shar I'm so sorry my fickness is pushing you out. 205 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 2: You're just one. 206 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 5: You had to tell the people that let's start. Let's 207 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 5: start with Aaron and will work our way down. 208 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 8: Aaron. 209 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 3: As as a journalist, you take a different scope of things. 210 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 3: What what does this moment mean for you? Because I 211 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 3: feel like some people enter this space as a journalist. 212 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 3: Some people enter this space as a woman. Some people 213 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 3: enter this space as a black person. Where are you 214 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 3: right now? 215 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 5: In what order? 216 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 7: Yeah? 217 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 5: I mean, look, got to unmute her. Listen to black women. 218 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 5: I'm speaking. 219 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 8: I'm speaking exactly from freaking to the d n C. 220 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,599 Speaker 2: Here, here we go. 221 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 5: She's not kidding. 222 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 8: I mean, listen, I'm all of those things obviously at once. 223 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 8: I bring all those lived identities to who I am 224 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,599 Speaker 8: as a journalist. Don't apologize for that, but you know, 225 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 8: I really thought about, you know, boarding my plane in 226 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 8: Chicago on Sunday. Sunday was the one hundred and fourth 227 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 8: anniversary of the nineteenth Amendment, which is the amendment for 228 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 8: which my newsroom is named, an amendment which guaranteed the 229 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 8: right for some, but not all, women, the right to vote. Hello, 230 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 8: we had to fight twice as hard or even longer 231 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 8: before we had our full access to the franchise. We're 232 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 8: still fighting right our access to this democracy still being challenged. 233 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 5: You see that. 234 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 8: We could have seen that this week coming into this convention, right, 235 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 8: which could have been a contested convention, open convention. That's 236 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 8: not what we're seeing here. We are seeing a democratic 237 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 8: party that is unified behind a black woman who could 238 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,599 Speaker 8: become the first woman president of the United States. That 239 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 8: is not a moment that we necessarily saw coming when 240 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 8: we started the Nineteenth four almost five years ago. Literally 241 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 8: the Nineteenth started after the twenty sixteen election, when we 242 00:12:54,840 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 8: saw these tired tropes around electability, around readiness, around and right, 243 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 8: and we knew that there was a different way to 244 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 8: talk about women, to talk about our leadership, to talk 245 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 8: about gender and our politics in this country, in the 246 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 8: emerging small de democracy that you talked about so much, Tiffany, 247 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 8: that you continue to talk about. So yeah, I mean, 248 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 8: I come to a convention where the diversity that I'm 249 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 8: seeing in the arena is reflected on stage as well 250 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 8: as in the audience. That's not something that I saw 251 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 8: just a month ago at the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee. 252 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 8: That is striking to me. I think, we know it's real, 253 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 8: but to see it happening, to see it in reality, 254 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 8: a true representative democracy really in this arena, and abortion, 255 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 8: which we knew was on the ballot, was on stage 256 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 8: last night. That's still remarkable to think about. So, I mean, 257 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 8: I don't know, as a journalist, this is just a 258 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 8: remarkable moment to cover as a black woman. I am 259 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 8: thinking about everybody from Shirley Chisholm to Jesse Jackson to 260 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 8: I mean, just so many people that paved the way 261 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 8: for this moment to be possible. Mignon Moore, Donna Brazil, 262 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 8: Lea Daughtriyolanda Carroll, I mean all just front and center 263 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 8: in this moment. They helped to manifest the moment in 264 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 8: which we now find ourselves. And as a journalist, I 265 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 8: mean I can't not mention them in this conversation. So yeah, 266 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 8: there's a lot there. And obviously the Nineteenth is feeling 267 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 8: pretty good about, you know, the idea that we had 268 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 8: four years ago, because it's all on full display this week. 269 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 5: And your comridge is constantly beautiful good. 270 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 4: Also the host of the Amendment podcast, which we didn't say, 271 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 4: And speaking of podcast hosts, we also have Carrie Chamber 272 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 4: the podcast hosts, all the podcast hosts, but we also 273 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 4: have Carrie Champion here. What I love about you being here, 274 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 4: Carrie is this isn't something where you had to come. 275 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 4: You felt compelled to come. I know you have that 276 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 4: headset on, but if you don't mind picking up that 277 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 4: mic we'd love to talk to you about what made 278 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 4: you want to be here. And Andrew Gillham just because 279 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 4: the women are occupied with six of these seats. 280 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 5: The way in here at double. 281 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: Dutch first, second, first, and foremost, thank you guys for 282 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 2: having me. I was just with I'm standing I just 283 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: want to talk about my machetes for a minute. I'm 284 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: standing out front. I'm waiting for someone to bring me 285 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 2: a credential. And who do I see just walk up 286 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: on me and was like, no, I got you, follow me, 287 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: I have a pass. We so are in sync with 288 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 2: one another. Of all the people that I could see 289 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: standing in front of the United Center, Aaron walks up 290 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 2: on me and gives me of all the people, and 291 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: it was just like, I. 292 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: Love you so much. 293 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 2: I love this, I love the sisterhood. 294 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: I love what you all are doing. 295 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 2: You all know that, Andrew, I love you, and I 296 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: love I love Britt because she's letting one of my 297 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: butt cheeks. 298 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 7: Just come to. 299 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: Yet holding it is yet holding on. This is the 300 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: workout for the day. So I am a CNN contributor, 301 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 2: but I did not have to come. But I was like, 302 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 2: if I missed this moment, I miss I miss Barrock's moment. 303 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: But if I missed this moment, this to me felt 304 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 2: so substantial and so bigger than us. And I felt 305 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: like this appointment in which Kamala Harris has in this moment, 306 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: felt divine. It is a testimony to everything can happen 307 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 2: in a blink of anyma over overnight. My God is 308 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 2: so real, and so I was able to witness what 309 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 2: happened to this woman three, four or five months ago. 310 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 2: Nobody could have told me this is where we would be, 311 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: And in an instant, I am sitting here and I'm 312 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 2: all like, this is a testimony to those who believe 313 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: and who have chosen. So what's meant for you is 314 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 2: meant for you and no one can take it away 315 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: from you. And I'm watching in real time, and so 316 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: I had to be here because I live that. I 317 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 2: believe that we all do. We've been in these moments 318 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 2: and it's something special in my world of sports. As 319 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: we all know. I said this, it's not an accident 320 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 2: where you have these two entities where women's athletics is 321 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: taken off in a way in which we have never 322 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: seen before. And then when we look at women in 323 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 2: the world fighting and we're saying, and I've said this before, 324 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: not on my damn watch, you want to take away 325 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: these things bit by bit. You played your hand, you 326 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: over played your hand. And now we are here and 327 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: we are righteous, and we are taking back what is ours. 328 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 2: There is this idea in sports that everyone needs a 329 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 2: good a good story, a good rivalry story, always needs 330 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 2: a really good person, and they need a foil. Right, 331 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 2: they need a good athlete and they need a foil. 332 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 2: But in this instance, women, black women are the foil. 333 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: We are taking it and we're taking it back. You 334 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: thought you were a superhero, but the story is ours. 335 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 2: And I am so grateful to be here. And I'm 336 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 2: more excited because I thought I was coming on tomorrow, 337 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 2: but since you guys have me on to day, I'm 338 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 2: just hanging out but checking. 339 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 5: Well, we are so grateful, y'all. We promise y'all, we 340 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 5: need it. 341 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 4: Only about five minutes say your time, so we gonna 342 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 4: let y'all head on out. Natasha got people to see in, 343 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 4: things to do. We got some other guests coming up, 344 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 4: but we are so so grateful for you. 345 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 5: Yes, you're welcome. 346 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: Let me put eyes on you. 347 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 4: Hey, y'all, thanks for listening, remember to rate, review, subscribe, 348 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 4: and tune into our regular episode that drops every single Thursday. 349 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 5: Welcome Home, y'all. 350 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership 351 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: with Reasent Choice Media. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit 352 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your 353 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: favorite shows.