Speaker 1: Wind down with Janet Kramer an I'm Heeart radio podcast.
Speaker 2: Okay, my guys, Hey, Roman learned a Scottish word. What's
Speaker 2: a Scottish word?
Speaker 1: What does that mean?
Speaker 2: Out?
Speaker 1: Oh, that's how they say out words accents.
Speaker 2: Alan goes, get in, get it, And so the other
Speaker 2: day he goes and I think that.
Speaker 1: Can we just talk about something'll be pieces about Roman
Speaker 1: for second.
Speaker 2: Pieces of someone because everyone says, I say, I say
Speaker 2: pieces too much, do you? Apparently in the last one
Speaker 2: I was like, well, this piece and I'm like, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of pieces in life. I've never noticed. I'm
Speaker 2: a layers girl, though, So that's fine, lots of layers
Speaker 2: when it's a story.
Speaker 1: When it's a story. But can we talk about Roman
Speaker 1: kicking the soccer ball?
Speaker 2: I know it's not crazy wild.
Speaker 1: I can't get past it. Every time you post it,
Speaker 1: I'm like, how is it doesn't even look real? I know,
Speaker 1: like he's so little, it doesn't even look Actually.
Speaker 2: There's two things that I've aied it. And then also
Speaker 2: you know those crazy crazies that the crazy crazy held
Speaker 2: in something else and he's like, I'm gonna be kind
Speaker 2: how they said I lied about like his birthday like, no, why,
Speaker 2: there's no way, so that I see he's clearly not
Speaker 2: his aim.
Speaker 1: I got he's so like, I mean little though I
Speaker 1: know that's what like.
Speaker 2: So also okay, still not normal For a couple of
Speaker 2: months later, I would think he is. Yeah, so for anyone,
Speaker 2: he is twenty two months old and half Scottish reminding
Speaker 2: you his dad plays professionally. Well, that's just the thing though.
Speaker 2: It's like you, guys, he's dribbling a ball. That's nuts.
Speaker 2: It's not normal. I keep saying, like every time I
Speaker 2: watch it, I text him like, not normal. I know.
Speaker 1: It gets me every time, and I'm like, I have
Speaker 1: to stop responding to her because I know she's getting
Speaker 1: all of these but I'm just like, what is happening.
Speaker 2: It's like the do they play when they do, like
Speaker 2: his ESPN special when he's an.
Speaker 1: Apple program plate.
Speaker 2: So I think it's because I mean he's literally put
Speaker 2: and I put this on my story last week. He's
Speaker 2: been putting a ball at his foot since he was
Speaker 2: a baby.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 2: I mean it's kind of is it twisted, like he's
Speaker 2: programmed him. Every is a kick a ball, kick a ball. Oh,
Speaker 2: aren't we just just programming in general.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a lot of times with kids in sports, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's what they gravitate to, but also it's what's been
Speaker 1: in front of them. True, Like if you don't know lacrosse,
Speaker 1: for instance, my kids have never seen La Cross. They
Speaker 1: don't know. They could be fantastic at it, but who knows,
Speaker 1: because it's what your parents like and are around and
Speaker 1: put in front of them. So he was destined to
Speaker 1: be good at soccer, but it's just or football. But
Speaker 1: like it's just so he's so little doing it. I know,
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we tried soccer o kish wasn't it for the
Speaker 2: outfit and air quotes is not an elbows out go
Speaker 2: so someone would get like kicking the ball and she
Speaker 2: just moved out of the way, and I'm like, well
Speaker 2: that is not how this works.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be. Well we got to move back
Speaker 1: because we got to go what I'm.
Speaker 2: Most interested for, because let's just pretend that he's going
Speaker 2: to go play soccer in the league in like a year,
Speaker 2: a year a year honest soccer shots, which we had
Speaker 2: to I don't want to have a minute. We did.
Speaker 2: We did lie about his age on his soccer shots.
Speaker 2: Because he had to be two, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: it'll be two when it finishes, it's fine, and he.
Speaker 1: Hits like like it's fine.
Speaker 2: I get nervous to see Alan be a sideline dad.
Speaker 2: He was so good at soccer. Shots with him. Okay,
Speaker 2: oh right, but it's not a game meeting, it's not
Speaker 2: a game yet.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: But you know what's funny is we were so we
Speaker 2: took We've been taking him to this is insane. We've
Speaker 2: been taking him to the field on weekends Roman like
Speaker 2: just to even for five minutes, just to kick a ball,
Speaker 2: because that's all his attention span does. There was a
Speaker 2: over forties group playing soccer and I was like, baby,
Speaker 2: you should talk to them, like go like be a
Speaker 2: part of the team. And so he ended up talking
Speaker 2: to one of the guys after and he's like, because
Speaker 2: I'm like i'd love to watch you play, you should
Speaker 2: play and it's an over forties league and he's like, Babe,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be able to play for fun, like someone's
Speaker 2: gonna get hurt or I'll get hurt a little stretcher, yeah,
Speaker 2: like they do in the game. So I know, I
Speaker 2: thought it'd be really fun. But anyways, that's mine.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like men's softball. Plenty of men get
Speaker 1: out there and get hurt because they think that they.
Speaker 2: Plenty irated because they get a husband with a broken
Speaker 2: legs he had to play softball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so funny.
Speaker 2: But I got to say, I'm really happy about all
Speaker 2: the positive feels that I got from the car.
Speaker 1: Everyone wants to see it. Though I know I know
Speaker 1: the bigger show it. I don't know that makes it
Speaker 1: seem a little bit, but I still think you should, Oh,
Speaker 1: finish it. Oh, I finish it. That to me, does
Speaker 1: after you talked about it, I would one hundred percent
Speaker 1: show it doing just showing it from the get go.
Speaker 1: I think you would have gotten more negative feedback without
Speaker 1: talking about it. Why because people will think that it's
Speaker 1: showing off. For sure.
Speaker 2: Is it wrong to show off?
Speaker 1: Not at all, Not at all. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: I don't think it's wrong at all. I think you
Speaker 1: would have gotten a lot more negative feedback had you
Speaker 1: done that at first. And I think that you're loyal.
Speaker 1: People that are listening understand and want to see it.
Speaker 1: But you're going to get people that don't listen that
Speaker 1: you're going to get a lot more hate if you
Speaker 1: post it, which I'm fine with, go for it. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying. I'm just saying I do think you'll get
Speaker 1: more hate on social media no content, Yeah, for no context.
Speaker 2: All the people that post their private planes and.
Speaker 1: For it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, not me, that's not me. You're following with
Speaker 2: the private plane. Well, I mean I follow the Kardashian
Speaker 2: like a few other people, some artists that we follow,
Speaker 2: you know whatever.
Speaker 1: But I'm here for me. I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I think it's one of those things where I'm like,
Speaker 2: I just love the the feed. I love how proud
Speaker 2: they are and happy for me there. I think it's
Speaker 2: so sweet and it's like I get what you're saying,
Speaker 2: but at the same time, like, you know what, I'm
Speaker 2: really proud of it, Like I and I rarely say
Speaker 2: that about anything that I do. Sure that you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not like I always put an asterisk to everything.
Speaker 2: This one, I'm like, no, I'm proud of myself. Like
Speaker 2: I worked hard, I'm gonna I.
Speaker 1: Have a ride in it. I just kind of wanted
Speaker 1: to amazing.
Speaker 2: Oh she's first of all, she has a beautiful voice,
Speaker 2: and she asked what you need and then She also
Speaker 2: massages you a lot of carist massage now though not mine.
Speaker 1: We're still she hugs you.
Speaker 2: I like when she hugs you. Yeah, we went on
Speaker 2: the corner and she like tightened her seatbelt and then
Speaker 2: she hugged my hips and I was like creamer, she cared.
Speaker 1: She doesn't matter for sure.
Speaker 2: Speaking of things we're proud of, I'm flying out. Where
Speaker 2: are you going? Cape Cod? Oh? That's right for you?
Speaker 2: Anniversary and you just celebrated ten years. I did, and
Speaker 2: we are taking the trip, which is not easy for
Speaker 2: me to do, and I'm proud.
Speaker 1: Is this the one where we marked it on the
Speaker 1: calendar and we kept it held on the calen calendar?
Speaker 2: We were calendar and then management brought a date and
Speaker 2: then we were going to move it, and then legend
Speaker 2: of first baseball game, But it doesn't matter. We worked
Speaker 2: around all the schedules and here we are. We're going
Speaker 2: to have three nights, two full days. Nice. Yeah, we'll
Speaker 2: be back in time for baseball and cheer. And I'm
Speaker 2: really proud of us. Good. Yeah, I love for an adventure.
Speaker 2: He's never been and I've never been in. It was
Speaker 2: really cute the photo that you did so cute. Got
Speaker 2: your wedding dress ten years ago on what street was
Speaker 2: that downtown Second Avenue and Second Avenue, and then you
Speaker 2: had ten years later in the kids and you go,
Speaker 2: why'd you say a little less love in the second one.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's more love? Oh oh, because I felt
Speaker 2: far away from him, like I wish I would have
Speaker 2: studied my pos as I said it to Jan, and
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, a lot less love. And that
Speaker 2: second photo it looked like he was stretching towards me.
Speaker 2: But I think I was trying to recreate so much.
Speaker 2: But no one, it's just my pickiness. But it was perfect.
Speaker 2: It was so cute, and it was just a fun
Speaker 2: memory too. You know, we were down there and everyone
Speaker 2: kept congratulating me. You just got maratulations and the people
Speaker 2: from the rooftop. It was then the George Jones Museum
Speaker 2: and now it is a different I think it's called
Speaker 2: like playground or something. But the rooftop is where we
Speaker 2: actually got married. And it was completely beautiful and overlooked,
Speaker 2: like you know, the river, and you could see the
Speaker 2: twinkling lights and Nissan and we got married at eight
Speaker 2: o'clock at night, so it was like dark and beautiful
Speaker 2: and when we walked, we were on Second Avenue and
Speaker 2: they were screaming down from the rooftop and they're like,
Speaker 2: my manager says, you guys should come up and have
Speaker 2: a drink. You can bring your kids, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: so we did go up just to have the moment,
Speaker 2: but it is just really different up there. It was
Speaker 2: kind of wild, but it was just a really sweet
Speaker 2: little memory and the kids got to be in there.
Speaker 2: We call the Big Beautiful City at night, and it
Speaker 2: was sweet and the best part of ten years and
Speaker 2: the hardest part of ten years. Oh, that'll make me cry. Yeah,
Speaker 2: start with the pit.
Speaker 1: Oh. The hardest part.
Speaker 2: Of ten years is this industry, for sure, and that
Speaker 2: makes me emotional. And then the both answers and the best.
Speaker 1: Part of the babies.
Speaker 2: Yeah. That's so a lot of life in ten years, guys,
Speaker 2: and you have really been there through a lot of it.
Speaker 2: I'm falling in love with an artist, which I said
Speaker 2: I never do. To lots of heartbreak, to facetimes too,
Speaker 2: m us making an impact that it'll be us at
Speaker 2: the end of this life, maybe just single you and me.
Speaker 2: But I'm really grateful and we've had like a lot
Speaker 2: of fun adventures guys like we've done. I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's just a really sweet I'm excited. I could tell
Speaker 2: like this the week, the easiest thing to do would
Speaker 2: be to not go, and I kind of felt like
Speaker 2: I don't want to go, just a little pms and
Speaker 2: a little like I'm moon the one planning, you know.
Speaker 2: And then I had this moment where I I do
Speaker 2: want to say this because I think any married people
Speaker 2: will super relate. The days that you don't want to
Speaker 2: go or don't want to do the most are probably
Speaker 2: the times you need it the most. That's what I've
Speaker 2: learned in ten years. So I'm excited to just have
Speaker 2: two days. Yeah, it'll be fun.
Speaker 1: It's always the lead up. Yeah, I never want to
Speaker 1: go in the lead up, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: just because it's so much work on our end.
Speaker 2: So much work seems so could just be easier to
Speaker 2: be here. Yeah, it was really like he I actually
Speaker 2: got him home the eve of our anniversary. He did
Speaker 2: a show on our anniversary and I didn't think i'd
Speaker 2: get him home, and I tucked in the babies upstairs,
Speaker 2: and he texted me and said, don't come down just yet.
Speaker 2: And I He's like and please confirm, and I was
Speaker 2: like confirmed. So he had set up like ten dozen
Speaker 2: roses and we opened a bottle of wine which we
Speaker 2: just had a sip of. It felt like a waste,
Speaker 2: but it was wonderful. And he bought us a little
Speaker 2: tiny wedding cake because we didn't have wedding cake on
Speaker 2: our wedding night because I gave it to someone else. Nope.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, the wedding cake too, the
Speaker 1: gig giveaway.
Speaker 2: No, So just like sweet and I think just the
Speaker 2: simplicity and like us just really like being proud of ourselves. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but this industry is tough, so it's feeling marriage is
Speaker 2: stre I can't you know, You're like twenty years in
Speaker 2: and I'm like, whoa, you know how because they made
Speaker 2: a decision to stay and work through it your tough times. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's wild and there hasn't been something so big too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would just encourage it.
Speaker 2: Like marriage is tough, so like it's okay that it's tough.
Speaker 2: I feel like we over over, you know, like even
Speaker 2: our our pictures, our ten year photos were so beautiful
Speaker 2: and I just loved it that we did it because
Speaker 2: we never take pictures ever, and so I thought that
Speaker 2: was really special, but also just it's okay to just
Speaker 2: be honest that it wasn't easy. Somebody wrote to me
Speaker 2: and said, you know, the thing you wrote about year
Speaker 2: three and year seven really got me. And I was like, well,
Speaker 2: that's just honest. You know, can't get to your ten
Speaker 2: without year seven. Yeah, and year seven was a doozy
Speaker 2: oh seven years stretch its worst stretch. Anyways, that's that.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to get to seven.
Speaker 2: Oh you guys, yeah, you know there knows there's an
Speaker 2: emotional maturity. I think that you guys have a leg
Speaker 2: up on too that. I just think there's really a
Speaker 2: lot of beauty in what you and Alan have created
Speaker 2: so quickly. I don't worry about your any for.
Speaker 1: You, but if we made it through seven, we're at eighteen,
Speaker 1: so damn I know we can make it for y'all.
Speaker 2: Can do it?
Speaker 1: Y'all got this guys. No one watched my show, did
Speaker 1: they know?
Speaker 2: I knew it.
Speaker 1: I had some people in my DMS. They were like,
Speaker 1: I can't wait for you to talk about this, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I have so much to say, but
Speaker 1: I don't think that any you.
Speaker 2: Know, I got stuck on love con and I got
Speaker 2: stuck on another one.
Speaker 1: So I feel like, okay, that's fine. So since y'a
Speaker 1: haven't watched this, have y'all watched that documentarynown Unknown Number?
Speaker 2: Yes? What?
Speaker 1: Okay? And so we have to say spoiler alert if
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about that, I have to.
Speaker 2: But because of the Internet spoiling it, I'm glad I
Speaker 2: watched it when I did because I had no idea.
Speaker 2: You get away shook, which was kind of refreshing.
Speaker 1: Did you see it coming?
Speaker 2: No? I thought game mom. Only reason I did was
Speaker 2: because I saw a Lifetime movie about it, so I
Speaker 2: knew it was Once it started, I was like, I
Speaker 2: think this is I think Lifetime did this movie and
Speaker 2: it ends up being the spoiler. Yeah, spoiler them right.
Speaker 2: So but I think what is absolutely wild and I
Speaker 2: don't want to m.
Speaker 1: I think you should. I'll say it. What do you
Speaker 1: want to say?
Speaker 2: Those pauses are what usually get us in trouble. I
Speaker 2: don't want to someone we've had recently on the podcast. Oh.
Speaker 2: I felt the same way when when the when the
Speaker 2: Mother of the Unknown said, we've all committed crimes, and
Speaker 2: then someone very recently we've had a guest on, who
Speaker 2: had another narcissistic lack of ownership, said well, we've all
Speaker 2: done things wrong, and I'm like, no, not like, don't
Speaker 2: try and justify. So it's like when she said, well
Speaker 2: we've all we've all broken the law, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: I've not told my daughter to kill herself, and you
Speaker 2: cannot compare the two.
Speaker 1: You cannot.
Speaker 2: You just can't pare that to anyone the two. I
Speaker 2: think that's why I was so shocked. I'm like, there's
Speaker 2: just quite nothing like that.
Speaker 1: That's still situation. I still find some of it odd.
Speaker 1: I don't I still feel and I'm sorry I shouldn't
Speaker 1: say it, but part of me still feels like she
Speaker 1: was she started it, the girl. I feel like she
Speaker 1: might have started it on her own personally. Oh the daughter,
Speaker 1: the daughter Lauren is that her name?
Speaker 2: Yeah, with a why?
Speaker 1: And I could be wrong, but something just it And
Speaker 1: maybe it is that she just had PTSD or not
Speaker 1: even PTSD.
Speaker 2: She was just you mean, from when the body cam
Speaker 2: showed her mom basically confessing her not having any reaction
Speaker 2: like what or.
Speaker 1: Like nothing, and maybe that is absolute just shock I
Speaker 1: will give and that was my first reaction. But then
Speaker 1: the way her mom was very specific about like, yes,
Speaker 1: I did it, but I didn't start it.
Speaker 2: That though too. To me though, thinks that makes me
Speaker 2: go back to someone who is just a liar cheater
Speaker 2: person that go, well, I did this, but I.
Speaker 1: Didn't do that. Maybe maybe but the tone, but the
Speaker 1: tone changed. And then also has that cat if you
Speaker 1: watch the way she was with her daughter when the
Speaker 1: police were there and how she's like comforting her and
Speaker 1: this whole like she needs her either she just needed
Speaker 1: so badly to be that person that her daughter came to.
Speaker 1: So she was so messed up in her mind, which
Speaker 1: I think is it. She was so messed up in
Speaker 1: her mind she wanted her daughter coming to her and
Speaker 1: needing her in some weird, odd way.
Speaker 2: It's like that one detective said, it's that one disease,
Speaker 2: but it munchaus without the medical.
Speaker 1: Yes, which I think that's a huge part of it.
Speaker 1: Part of me also goes or is she also did
Speaker 1: she find out her daughter had been doing it and
Speaker 1: either take the wrap for it or her daughter started
Speaker 1: it and she took over.
Speaker 2: I just don't know why her daughter would start it
Speaker 2: when she's like happy in her relationship. That's the party.
Speaker 1: She though there's a lot of stuff missing in this.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of pieces that were not like kind
Speaker 1: of covered. But was she though, like was she happy
Speaker 1: in that relationship?
Speaker 2: Was she?
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just it's an interesting take that
Speaker 1: a lot of people are.
Speaker 2: I really felt for the dad and that I'm just like,
Speaker 2: this guy is just he's trying us about it or
Speaker 2: his family and this this this bitch is doing this,
Speaker 2: and then like to the dot, I'm just like.
Speaker 1: There was so much in that, like the one girl
Speaker 1: that they even accused at one point who was a bully,
Speaker 1: even if you look at just that piece and how
Speaker 1: messed up things were in that piece because not that
Speaker 1: she got accused, but her parents were so oblivious to
Speaker 1: the fact that their daughter was a bully. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a reason why she was being accused because she
Speaker 1: was a bully. But I just I watched that and
Speaker 1: I'm like, do y'all have any clue, Like, Okay, maybe
Speaker 1: she didn't do this, let's get down. You know, obviously
Speaker 1: she didn't do it, but like she was a bully
Speaker 1: to so many and they're just so like, couldn't be
Speaker 1: my dad, you know. I just think that there's just
Speaker 1: so much we have to look at and we have
Speaker 1: to go we don't think our children are capable of
Speaker 1: these things, But at the same time, you've got to
Speaker 1: look at it, you've got to consider it, you've got
Speaker 1: to I don't know, there.
Speaker 2: Was just such address it.
Speaker 1: You have to address it. Yeah, and you know, kids
Speaker 1: are kids and they are going to make mistakes. But
Speaker 1: I mean telling your daughter to kill yourself. I all
Speaker 1: of it, all of it, and it was so like nasty,
Speaker 1: the dirty top dirty.
Speaker 2: I couldn't. I just was so you guys, not much
Speaker 2: shocks me. Yeah, there's like movies I can watch returns
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh okay, but like blown away. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean my job was on the just crazy. I
Speaker 2: think because we all just parent so intentionally too, that
Speaker 2: it's just so wild that that even exists to me.
Speaker 2: It's her rationalizing it too though, and trying to compare
Speaker 2: to us, like haven't you been a bad mom? And
Speaker 2: her addition to done something it's like yeah, and then
Speaker 2: to do this, it's like what are you What are
Speaker 2: you thinking is going to happen? Do you think you're
Speaker 2: going to get people that go, oh you got totally
Speaker 2: I get it, well, she wants attention, they said, she
Speaker 2: loves attention. And as she's sitting there, I'm like, nothing
Speaker 2: about this makes you look good. You've explained nothing, You've
Speaker 2: you know, like you're doing this for the fame of
Speaker 2: it too or whatever. When you put your kids into
Speaker 2: that and act that way and talk that way about
Speaker 2: your children to your children, I don't have any Like
Speaker 2: I feel sad that she's sick. I do too, yeah,
Speaker 2: but I just I don't have I don't really have
Speaker 2: a hard time having any empathy for that woman.
Speaker 1: It's hard. I mean, people that commit crimes like that,
Speaker 1: and to me that this is very equal. She could
Speaker 1: have killed herself, the daughter, Yeah, she could have killed herself.
Speaker 1: So this to me is up there with the highest
Speaker 1: of crimes. I mean, like, you could have easily had
Speaker 1: your daughter kids and it would have been it would
Speaker 1: have been you. I have a hard time. I do.
Speaker 1: I understand she's mentally ill. I understand that, but it's
Speaker 1: just I know that was that was devastating.
Speaker 2: Those friends, the friends of the family, Owen's parents. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: like people they trusted, Wow, I know WI trusts around you.
Speaker 2: I don't. So that's my safety Net. I'm going to
Speaker 2: get on the shows because right now I'm on the
Speaker 2: the love com thing and that's just wild too. Being scammed.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I got to watch watch it because I
Speaker 2: have a story from my very past when I was
Speaker 2: with a scammer like that. So well, we have to
Speaker 2: watch it this week and then yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: And then another thing we're going to talk about this
Speaker 1: next week as well. We're going to get into it.
Speaker 1: Have you heard about the liac in snelling the case yet?
Speaker 1: Look it up. We'll talk about it later. Don't do
Speaker 1: it everywhere. It'll be controversial, but we're going.
Speaker 2: To talk about it. Okay, that's what we like. Coming
Speaker 2: next week, controversial topics with Cat. We'll take a break
Speaker 2: Cat the pot Star. Well, guys, what do you got Gramer?
Speaker 2: You guys have wine about it because I got something
Speaker 2: I could unpin.
Speaker 1: I think they were waiting for your pin.
Speaker 2: This is a different pin.
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for that pin, but also your whine about it.
Speaker 2: You have a lot pinned. We're just wondering where the
Speaker 2: Baltimore is. So I have to ask this one. So
Speaker 2: I would like to start with my husband is a
Speaker 2: lovely husband.
Speaker 1: I love when start like this. I love when again
Speaker 1: these are my favorite. I love when we know for.
Speaker 2: Sure it's about Alan.
Speaker 1: Okay, he's a lovely husband.
Speaker 2: Yes, he is the best husband I have to have
Speaker 2: to say all the past, A great lovely friend.
Speaker 1: He's a wonderful socker. Then let's go into what sucks.
Speaker 2: Okay, he's respect He is such a good dad. He is.
Speaker 1: All qualifiers.
Speaker 2: He is so supportive, he is just the best and
Speaker 2: like so helpful too. Okay, wow, he is very helpful. Alrighty,
Speaker 2: And I am posing a thought starter whin about it
Speaker 2: challenge potentially have you ladies ever gone on strike? Now,
Speaker 2: before you answer it, I'm just going to say this,
Speaker 2: So this is an incident that happened a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 2: I okay, when something is close to being done, I
Speaker 2: will put on our little skylight calendar jelly because I
Speaker 2: know I'm about two more keepings of jelly left. We're
Speaker 2: going to need, you know, like for grocery list, right,
Speaker 2: same thing with like bread when I'm making the kids lunches,
Speaker 2: which he also helps with, thank you very much, such
Speaker 2: like good helper. So Gray Alberd, does he notify you
Speaker 2: that he's done it? Because that's my favorite part of
Speaker 2: my husband.
Speaker 1: He hasn't just done it. He's made sure that you
Speaker 1: reported that. I'm like, alright, tell us, we've been trained
Speaker 1: to give them positive reinforcement without telling us, Like, we
Speaker 1: can't even say it without making sure that we say
Speaker 1: the positive.
Speaker 2: But he made a sandwich and we're all like, that's
Speaker 2: the guy. He's on my shoulder, like big sandwich maker. Alright, sorry,
Speaker 2: this is.
Speaker 1: A sign up.
Speaker 2: He's like, would you like me to make the lunch
Speaker 2: and then you do the dishwasher. I'm like, or you
Speaker 2: can do both because I do both equally at the
Speaker 2: same time. Do or like He'll be like, I'll make
Speaker 2: the sandwiches and you do the rest, And I'm like,
Speaker 2: or you.
Speaker 1: Can just do the full lunch. That's funny. The sandwiches
Speaker 1: grabbed the chips. That would be profound.
Speaker 2: Wow. So it's just I don't know. He's like, he's
Speaker 2: fine with doing the sandwich, but it's the side little
Speaker 2: trinkets in the lunch box that really get them. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I digress. So I then put things on there, right, So,
Speaker 2: like the bread. When I know there's only a couple
Speaker 2: more pieces left, I'll put bread on the grocery list, right.
Speaker 2: So I was cleaning up and I go into my
Speaker 2: underneath and I can't find my Clorox Wipechlorox wipes because
Speaker 2: something was the refrigerator door was sticky, so I wipe
Speaker 2: it a lot from the jelly. From the jelly, yes,
Speaker 2: keep it full circle, very full circle. And so I
Speaker 2: am like, where are my Clorox wipes? I always I
Speaker 2: know where I put them. I put them back where
Speaker 2: they belong human and it never moves unless somebody else
Speaker 2: touches them, right, So then it's allan. I was like,
Speaker 2: have you seen my Clorox wipes? And he was like
Speaker 2: I haven't, and he goes, oh wait, I finished them.
Speaker 2: And I was like, and did you not replace them
Speaker 2: like that? They absolutely are our michlorox wipes. And he
Speaker 2: is like, it's not like you use them a lot.
Speaker 2: And this is where I went. I went. I was like,
Speaker 2: you do not see the things that I do. All
Speaker 2: around everything that I do do. I was like, I'm
Speaker 2: constantly taking the Clorox wipes and wiping all the little
Speaker 2: like knobs and things and refrigerators and that I was
Speaker 2: like in taking my magic erasers and going around cleaning
Speaker 2: base boards and walls, like on a weekly basis, sometimes daily.
Speaker 2: I was like, you don't see the things that I
Speaker 2: do at all? Then you know what I mean, because
Speaker 2: that's what I do all the time. And on top
Speaker 2: of everything else, I was like, imagine what the house
Speaker 2: would look like if I didn't touch the things that
Speaker 2: I touch, and what it would look like. And then
Speaker 2: I thought, I think I'm going to go on strike
Speaker 2: for a week just so he can see what I do.
Speaker 2: Do you do not yet? I wanted to pose it
Speaker 2: here first, but yeah, what do you think? I can't
Speaker 2: imagine what my home would look like if I went
Speaker 2: on strike. But I feel like they might appreciate what
Speaker 2: we do. I know, we appre again. Here we go.
Speaker 2: I know you appreciate me. Yes, Okay, Having said that,
Speaker 2: they I mean this so respectfully. The laps that I
Speaker 2: do around my husband in that home, yes, I mean
Speaker 2: even just the unloading of the car. I mean, I
Speaker 2: just last night, Preston is a really great guy. He's
Speaker 2: a really great dad, a songwriter, he's a wonderful, super
Speaker 2: good at making up. Okay, Oh, last night, we're leaving
Speaker 2: the baseball field and I just wild. I wish I'm
Speaker 2: next time I'm going to take a picture. We should
Speaker 2: just make a series and people can follow along. So
Speaker 2: I have this wagon overflowing. I had provided snack for
Speaker 2: the baseball blah blah blah. Right, so I have all
Speaker 2: three chairs, a blanket, a toddler who doesn't want to go,
Speaker 2: love who doesn't even want to be there in the
Speaker 2: first place. Everything's overflowing. So I'm pulling the wagon with
Speaker 2: two hands because the wagon I'm holding the chairs on,
Speaker 2: and the attempt to make it over shuffling slowly shuffling
Speaker 2: over to the car. I look up and help me. No,
Speaker 2: Homie's got a bag of veggie straws, and he's just like,
Speaker 2: I mean I at this point, I've almost run my
Speaker 2: child over me over by the wagon, like it's death
Speaker 2: by wagon. And he's like we are literally ten feet
Speaker 2: from the car, and he's like, baby, mean me, help
Speaker 2: with that. And I'm like, oh, no, no, no, this
Speaker 2: has been organ trail for thirty minutes, and if if
Speaker 2: I'm going to bring it to the finish line, right,
Speaker 2: were right? I love when they ask literally like we
Speaker 2: might as well be on the drive home at this point,
Speaker 2: and I'm just like, dude, I just I there's such
Speaker 2: a unique difference in the way we all see the world,
Speaker 2: the amount of things we get done. I want to
Speaker 2: say I can go on strike. I think my euro OSD. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know, but I feel like I should try more
Speaker 2: than I do. I'm on strike right now. Yeah, Cat's
Speaker 2: like I've striker on for the last seventeen years. Now.
Speaker 1: I pick up more and like put up more and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But like that kind of stuff he
Speaker 1: does more, so I can't really.
Speaker 2: But he wouldn't be able to do that if you
Speaker 2: didn't pick up the stuff.
Speaker 1: No, he would let this stuff just sit sit and
Speaker 1: stay for sure. But like, yeah, I mean, but I'm
Speaker 1: just not you know me, I'm just not like OCD
Speaker 1: about that. Having said that, the laundry would go to yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that is one thing that I am like
Speaker 1: very good at keeping up with for sure, and that
Speaker 1: would go to crap. But I feel like you could
Speaker 1: do it the strike. I think you could do it.
Speaker 2: I probably could, and I think that he would probably
Speaker 2: eventually not notice. No, No, I think he was. He's
Speaker 2: also a very.
Speaker 1: Because in particular, Yeah, it's just because you do it,
Speaker 1: you know. But if you were to go on strike,
Speaker 1: I feel like he'd be like okay and start seeing
Speaker 1: it and would start doing it. You know, only that
Speaker 1: I'm not real sure love him. I mean, I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what would happen. You would go crazy,
Speaker 1: and I don't know that it's good for your mental health.
Speaker 2: I don't know. You should rather just do him go
Speaker 2: off like when when he comes home from tour, just
Speaker 2: to see his face.
Speaker 1: I don't think she could do it.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to be able to
Speaker 2: do that, because I think it would think it would
Speaker 2: be like even the other night, I tucked all the
Speaker 2: babies in and that's my jam, right one, like candle
Speaker 2: dim lights, clean counters, and I just go through and
Speaker 2: I just to tee myself up for the morning. And
Speaker 2: I thought, what would it look like if I just
Speaker 2: left all of this? How'd it feel? I didn't leave it.
Speaker 2: She just got about it, but I did think about
Speaker 2: It's step one, well, step one a knitting. Let's do
Speaker 2: It's report that, okay, let's do it now next week.
Speaker 2: Let's do it next week, yeah, next okay. Can't wait
Speaker 2: to hear about this. Kim Kardashian explains why she doesn't
Speaker 2: believe in homework. So she has said that they do
Speaker 2: not believe in homework during a recent live stream, but
Speaker 2: she was I'm gonna tell you why kids are in
Speaker 2: school for eight hours a day. When they come home,
Speaker 2: they need to also then do sports, have a life,
Speaker 2: spend time with their family. I think that homework should
Speaker 2: be left for in school thoughts. I totally agree, totally agree.
Speaker 2: I can tell you this, Jolie. Fourth grade is all
Speaker 2: about having responsibility in the classroom and if you don't
Speaker 2: finish it, then that's when you take it home. So
Speaker 2: the whole thing is like teaching them to finish it
Speaker 2: in school. And it has been so stress free having
Speaker 2: both kids come home and not have any homework to
Speaker 2: do because we have the sports and all the things,
Speaker 2: and it's it's been great. Yeah, Oh, it's been a
Speaker 2: dream this year. That's great. Can't imagine y'all even having homework.
Speaker 2: That's wild to because they're there so long. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean that just it seems like last year it was
Speaker 2: like so much for joy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ramsey does have it. This year, it's a little
Speaker 1: bit less, and I mean, really, you just have to
Speaker 1: do it in a week, so it's not terrible. You
Speaker 1: can do a little bit at a time, but to
Speaker 1: just not have to think about it just would be amazing.
Speaker 1: I've noticed this year for Emmy eighth grade, she's had
Speaker 1: a lot less homework, a lot more tests, a lot
Speaker 1: more quizzes and studying, but a lot less homework and
Speaker 1: it's just still so much less stress.
Speaker 2: I think I wish that, And I don't know if
Speaker 2: this teachers will blow me up in the DMS for sure,
Speaker 2: but I wish that they would take those homework pieces
Speaker 2: and they would start to make some sort of summer
Speaker 2: curriculum may not be a popular opinion, but if you
Speaker 2: don't use it, you lose it. So we do a
Speaker 2: tiny bit of school every week at home during the summer,
Speaker 2: just to like so we're not like cold Turkey, And
Speaker 2: I just think it would be a much better Okay,
Speaker 2: Jollie was, but no, like you know, I hear what
Speaker 2: you're saying. Just take a tiny bit and they could
Speaker 2: do like a worksheet in the morning or something throughout
Speaker 2: the summer just to keep it bak sassah less homework.
Speaker 2: Jolie was supposed to do summer school and her teacher
Speaker 2: was even like decline it because she's like they they
Speaker 2: need that break for their little brains, you know, not
Speaker 2: like full blown school, just like brain warm up once
Speaker 2: a day. I'm probably I think I know where you
Speaker 2: stand on this. But Jolie had come home with a
Speaker 2: a not so great grade on her test and she
Speaker 2: had folded it up so that I wouldn't see it
Speaker 2: in her binder, and I was like, oh, why is
Speaker 2: this folded? I looked and I go, oh, good job.
Speaker 2: Girl was like it's all good. She's like, you're not mad.
Speaker 2: I was like, no, it's like you're fine, Like it's
Speaker 2: you know, this isn't You're not going to not be
Speaker 2: successful in life because you got a sixty percent on
Speaker 2: a fourth grade percent math test like that. I have
Speaker 2: that like is just do better try, you know, just
Speaker 2: that's what we want to work it out, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like I have weight, we carried so find I have
Speaker 1: to say I've learned a lot about that, Like I've
Speaker 1: come a long way when it got pretty okay, The
Speaker 1: problem is is I started with Kayden, who has never
Speaker 1: he's made bad test grades, but he has never made
Speaker 1: less than an A on a report card. Okay, and
Speaker 1: then I finally after sixth grade year, I was pretty
Speaker 1: hard on Emmy, and so I kind of lessened up
Speaker 1: last year, but I was still and this year I'm
Speaker 1: just it's fine, like, hey, let's make sure we're studying.
Speaker 1: As long as you're studying, you know. I've I've loosened
Speaker 1: up a lot. And I feel bad because she still
Speaker 1: kind of has that like reaction of like, oh no,
Speaker 1: are you going to be mad at me? And it
Speaker 1: really makes me feel bad that I did react when
Speaker 1: she had some bad grades. Now, if it's not turning
Speaker 1: stuff in, if it's zero's why I don't like. I
Speaker 1: don't you know, I don't tolerate that. But if there's
Speaker 1: a reason for it, I definitely have. I've gotten better
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, I've definitely had to loosen up on
Speaker 1: that a little bit for sure.
Speaker 2: And I think, honestly the dyslexia piece has helped me.
Speaker 2: Not because it's like she's got she's the brain's working
Speaker 2: against yourself, so it's like she knew more helpful. I'm
Speaker 2: not going to get I'm not going to discourage that now.
Speaker 2: Of course, same thing. If she's failing at everything, then
Speaker 2: there's a deeper issue to like chat about. But and
Speaker 2: I will say it with my parents. They didn't care
Speaker 2: at all, which I think I didn't like. I wish
Speaker 2: they would have cared a little bit about it, because
Speaker 2: then I just kind of gave up. Yeah, as opposed
Speaker 2: to so I would have liked them to. But at
Speaker 2: the same time, if they were really is hard on it.
Speaker 2: I mean again, I knew I wasn't going to be
Speaker 2: doing anything with schooling. I was like out Hollywood here
Speaker 2: and I still count on my hands and it is
Speaker 2: what it is. It's fine, you're successful. Anyways. Do you
Speaker 2: guys see that stuff about Dean and Tory No, the
Speaker 2: so he's they're you know, going through their ongoing divorce.
Speaker 2: The finances, He basically claims, toy makes this much a
Speaker 2: month a new divorce bowling as he reveals over twenty
Speaker 2: thousand dollars of debt. I don't know if they're like
Speaker 2: reworking the figures or that part. I'm not like too
Speaker 2: sure about. It's I never like seeing people's breakdowns of things.
Speaker 2: I don't I didn't like it when our stuff when
Speaker 2: public and it.
Speaker 1: Makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: It makes really uncomfortable, And I don't want to know
Speaker 2: about what his girlfriend is like a month and like
Speaker 2: first of all that's she shouldn't be a part of
Speaker 2: any thing anyways, Like just as I'm not a part
Speaker 2: of any you know, when it comes.
Speaker 1: I don't know why she was brought into this.
Speaker 2: I have confusing to me, no idea actually feel bad
Speaker 2: for the girl that she was even brought into it.
Speaker 2: But I just yeah, I mean the whole thing. I
Speaker 2: just honestly, anytime I ever read any of that stuff,
Speaker 2: it's just like it kind of triggers me. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't I don't even want to. It's like the
Speaker 2: feeling you guys, I'll probably regret saying this. It's the
Speaker 2: same feeling when you accidentally walk into someone on the
Speaker 2: in the bathroom, Like I'm like, oh, I shouldn't you.
Speaker 1: Shouldn't be It's like none of our business, of our
Speaker 1: people's answer, it's just not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like, I don't you know, she shouldn't
Speaker 2: be punished for being successful. She has the kids ninety
Speaker 2: percent of the time, you know. I don't know if
Speaker 2: I really don't know if he's like trying to get
Speaker 2: more money. I have no idea. I guess I didn't
Speaker 2: really look that much into it. But I just feel
Speaker 2: like this has been going on a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just I think the moral of this whole thing
Speaker 1: is truly we don't want to have a huge opinion
Speaker 1: on it because we don't. It's we don't feel like
Speaker 1: it's our business. Yeah, and really don't want to get
Speaker 1: into it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: When I saw that headline, I was just like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to know this, Like I don't let them
Speaker 1: work it out, let them figure out.
Speaker 2: I even feel like when we've gone through this with you,
Speaker 2: we didn't know those things finances and yeah, yeah, like
Speaker 2: you're like.
Speaker 1: Our don't talk about your finances kind of person, very
Speaker 1: old school of you. I'm very like Nick and his
Speaker 1: sister used to talk about finances, like in the beginning,
Speaker 1: and she still talks about finances, but I'm like not
Speaker 1: comfortable with it.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think you should ever talk about finances
Speaker 2: with family. Yeah that's kind of my Yeah, talk about
Speaker 2: it with your husband, but like even and sure agreed,
Speaker 2: but when it comes to family and stuff, like, I
Speaker 2: don't think anybody in my family has any clue and
Speaker 2: I don't want to tell anything. It's just I sometimes
Speaker 2: want to tell ours because I'm like I think you
Speaker 2: guys think it's a lot more than well no, I
Speaker 2: mean I remember like when I was touring with like
Speaker 2: Brad Paisley, and then like my brother's like, oh, you
Speaker 2: must be making like hundreds of thousands of dollars. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I am negative.
Speaker 1: Actually, show people are clueless. Yeah, I'm sorry, they're all
Speaker 1: but man. Yeah. But to me, though, the assumption should
Speaker 1: be no different. That's what's so frustrating to me. They
Speaker 1: might be assuming that you're making all kinds of money.
Speaker 1: What does that make you act differently?
Speaker 2: Like? Why? It does? Depends on how much you're willing
Speaker 2: to do for them.
Speaker 1: I think, oh, well yeah, yeah I said that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But also like in this situation, like and again
Speaker 2: I don't understand this at all. I don't know if
Speaker 2: he's coming after more money, so I don't even like
Speaker 2: but it's I don't like it. I'm i gonna say that,
Speaker 2: go ahead, I don't like it. This is very old
Speaker 2: school of me. And I know I'm going down in
Speaker 2: a ball of flames.
Speaker 1: Already know what you're going to say.
Speaker 2: Damn it. I just don't. I just don't think it
Speaker 2: is handsome and masculine to go after a woman's money.
Speaker 1: But I can agree with that statement. I also a
Speaker 1: lot of men who agree with that statement.
Speaker 2: I also a lot of baggage myself from previous relationships
Speaker 2: where I was the breadwinner and I'm and I remember
Speaker 2: that being okay with someone, and I'm like now looking
Speaker 2: back now having a husband that's like a provider, And listen,
Speaker 2: this isn't that I want presson to be the provider
Speaker 2: or entire your lives. I truly don't. I have a
Speaker 2: not so secret mission of retiring him, but I do.
Speaker 2: I just think it's so handsome and so protective in
Speaker 2: ways to provide in that way that that's just very
Speaker 2: icky to me in general. But I don't know everything.
Speaker 2: But there are dudes like we know that yes, they
Speaker 2: don't care. No, And I said, because I said, don't
Speaker 2: you care that you're a man taking like, don't you
Speaker 2: want to provide for your kids on your own? I
Speaker 2: don't care. You know they don't. Certain men just that's
Speaker 2: not don't care.
Speaker 1: I understand if you're like in a financial bind for
Speaker 1: a time, you have no choice, you need to ask
Speaker 1: for help because your children could end up on the
Speaker 1: streets like okay, of course.
Speaker 2: And if you were going taking care of the kids,
Speaker 2: maybe underbred.
Speaker 1: Yes, there are circumstances where a man needs to swallow
Speaker 1: his pride and ask for help. Yes, but those men
Speaker 1: then should be doing everything that they can to get
Speaker 1: out of that hole and provide on their own.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, what if that was flip though, because
Speaker 2: people will say, well.
Speaker 1: I know, of course people will say, and here's the deal.
Speaker 1: I actually am very much an advocate for women getting
Speaker 1: up out of it themselves and providing for their families.
Speaker 1: If you're single, you don't have the ability to stay home,
Speaker 1: you're going to have to.
Speaker 2: I just got to think if I'm in a different situation,
Speaker 2: and let's say my ex made more money than I did,
Speaker 2: and you know, I would probably, yeah, I would take
Speaker 2: the money because if I didn't have, if I wasn't
Speaker 2: in this situation right where I'm able to and I
Speaker 2: just have, you know, getting by with the bills, I
Speaker 2: would absolutely probably take his money.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And here's the thing. Nick and I went through this,
Speaker 1: I mean we before. We did not get divorced, but
Speaker 1: we had it all laid out and the reality is,
Speaker 1: and I understand that a lot of people don't get along,
Speaker 1: but we did it to where it benefited both our children,
Speaker 1: I mean our children at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: How much do I need to make sure that they're
Speaker 1: taken care of? And how much do you need to
Speaker 1: make sure that they are taken care of. Yes, that's
Speaker 1: the only way we looked at it, and yes that
Speaker 1: meant I had to take some money from him, but
Speaker 1: it was purely thinking about how do I make sure
Speaker 1: that the bills get paid, how do I make sure
Speaker 1: that the kids have X, Y and Z. It wasn't
Speaker 1: just about taking his money.
Speaker 2: I mean, how is this any different than when we're
Speaker 2: talking about Dean. Maybe he that's what he needs, right.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm saying. I can understand for a time.
Speaker 1: But also if he's needing that much money, then he's
Speaker 1: going to have to get another job. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: And I was willing to do that. And I understand that. Yes,
Speaker 1: it is a bit of a Yes, there is a
Speaker 1: little bit of a double standard on this. I do
Speaker 1: understand that. But also I'm the kind of person that
Speaker 1: was willing to go and I even said to him, Hey,
Speaker 1: if I need to get another job so that we
Speaker 1: are financially okay. And I understand that everyone doesn't get along,
Speaker 1: but just being willing.
Speaker 2: Well, I to heare you, because I remember speaking to
Speaker 2: about this and we were having you know, someone we
Speaker 2: know was struggling, and he's like, then get a second job.
Speaker 2: Make that like, if you can't send your kid to
Speaker 2: school with school money, then get a second job. Ye.
Speaker 2: And it's like there's just people that would rather just
Speaker 2: take than from the person that's making the money.
Speaker 1: It's about the effort, yeah, And I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: he's not making an effort. I don't know, and I
Speaker 1: don't want to know. And maybe he is, and maybe
Speaker 1: he just needs that money right now, more power to him.
Speaker 1: But to me, it's very much about the effort level
Speaker 1: behind it and not just sitting there and just taking
Speaker 1: and just accepting how it is.
Speaker 2: I do think it is different though for a man
Speaker 2: versus a woman. I really do. And I guess that
Speaker 2: is just my my thing is is old schoolness, yeah,
Speaker 2: because it's like and I know men like Alan, like
Speaker 2: he's like, I would never, oh, Nick would rather die
Speaker 2: than to take money from me. Yeah, And that's it.
Speaker 1: And that's an old school prideful thing for a man too,
Speaker 1: And that is attractive to us because we all do
Speaker 1: kind of like that old school mentality. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, the reason it's kind of been like this
Speaker 1: and why it's always been is because traditionally, old school
Speaker 1: wise women would stay home. They didn't have the ability
Speaker 1: because they would stay home take care of the kids,
Speaker 1: they didn't have the ability to make the money that
Speaker 1: they did. So if it's reverse, which is probably kind
Speaker 1: of rare, I don't know, I don't know the stats.
Speaker 1: If it's reverse to where you're working, and Mike was
Speaker 1: completely staying home, wasn't working at all, you know, and
Speaker 1: had to couldn't go to school, didn't get the schooling,
Speaker 1: didn't have the chance, and not even them because at
Speaker 1: that point y'all got married a little bit later. But
Speaker 1: that's traditionally what it's for. A woman couldn't go to school,
Speaker 1: she couldn't get a job, she couldn't do those things
Speaker 1: because she had to stay home and take care of
Speaker 1: the kids. That's traditionally why that's even setting place was
Speaker 1: second place. Now it's obviously morphed and changed over the years,
Speaker 1: and it's just but now I feel like it's gotten
Speaker 1: so nitpicky about well, this person's making this much and
Speaker 1: this person's to me, it's just like, can you provide
Speaker 1: for your children or can you not?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And if that person can't and they're taking care of
Speaker 1: their kids, which it doesn't see he doesn't have a
Speaker 1: whole lot of time. Sounds like she's got ninety with
Speaker 1: the kids. Yeah, and then I can understand it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's just I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of gray area there.
Speaker 2: Hey Jana, After listening to a recent podcast discussing cheating,
Speaker 2: I have a question. My best friend has suspected her
Speaker 2: husband of cheating. She recently took a coworker with her
Speaker 2: to check up on him at a bar he frequents
Speaker 2: with friends. When they walked in, he was sitting with
Speaker 2: a woman and they seemed a little too friendly. When
Speaker 2: they saw her, this woman took off and ran to
Speaker 2: the opposite side of the bar, So that reaction said
Speaker 2: a lot to my friend. Her husband denied it and
Speaker 2: they have been trying to work on their marriage. They
Speaker 2: went away over the weekend, and while they were away,
Speaker 2: my friend received a series of texts from someone using
Speaker 2: a fake number under my name saying her husband was
Speaker 2: cheating and calling their two young children awful names. Her
Speaker 2: husband believes it truly is me and is trying to
Speaker 2: get my husband to turn on me. He went so
Speaker 2: far as to send several lengthy, untrue, nasty texts about
Speaker 2: me to my own husband, my husband, I clearly see
Speaker 2: this for what it is, his desperate attempt to distract
Speaker 2: my friend from the truth and put the blame elsewhere.
Speaker 2: They won't let us see these texts, but her husband
Speaker 2: keeps saying he knows it's me, and he told my
Speaker 2: husband his wife is not allowed to speak to me.
Speaker 2: My friend privately messaged me and said she knows this
Speaker 2: must be the person he's having the affair with who's
Speaker 2: behind all this. She's not happy with her husband coming
Speaker 2: after me, but wants to stay with him. I would
Speaker 2: never tell her what to do, but I feel like
Speaker 2: I can't be around her because of the lies her
Speaker 2: husband is now spreading about me and trying to interfere
Speaker 2: in my marriage. Now our children are all close friends.
Speaker 2: I have so much empathy for my friend, but I
Speaker 2: feel like her husband is so unstable we have no
Speaker 2: choice but to cut ties. Any advice.
Speaker 1: That's sad, but I agree, Yeah, I don't think you
Speaker 1: really have much of a choice unless she decides to
Speaker 1: leave them.
Speaker 2: I wonder if there's a way to just not cut
Speaker 2: ties with the kids. Like I like the idea maybe
Speaker 2: of her picking up the kids and doing activity so
Speaker 2: the kids have something that feels a little consistent. Just
Speaker 2: if they end up do getting divorced. I think the
Speaker 2: consistency in that friendship.
Speaker 1: It would be hard for me to let my kids, though,
Speaker 1: go over there if I don't trust him.
Speaker 2: No, I mean like they could get maybe like an
Speaker 2: off property, like.
Speaker 1: Right, Like I would still offer to take the kids,
Speaker 1: but if he's doing this in my marriage, I'd have
Speaker 1: a really hard time then.
Speaker 2: Just protect the kids always.
Speaker 1: And I think that you have to let that friend
Speaker 1: know how much you love them, but because of that,
Speaker 1: you have to step away until she can.
Speaker 2: Because that does make it to your own marriage too,
Speaker 2: you know, like the stress of all you got to
Speaker 2: protect yourself, energy and all that. Yeah, it's a lot,
Speaker 2: and yeah he's totally cheating.
Speaker 1: Yeah for me.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine any of our husbands, first of all,
Speaker 2: go to a bar and sitting with and talking to
Speaker 2: a girl.
Speaker 1: Like what again, take what information you know? And are
Speaker 1: you okay with that? Very little information? I mean might
Speaker 1: not be able to prove more, But do you have
Speaker 1: one I'm going to a bar sitting super friendly with
Speaker 1: a woman anyway.
Speaker 2: No, No, that's the whole thing. Like it's like what's
Speaker 2: tolerated is still inappropriate.
Speaker 1: I know, and they will always convince them. But oh,
Speaker 1: I was just talking to her right on today.
Speaker 2: Why, Well, it drives me insane because they're just that
Speaker 2: way and they always stay that way, even after they
Speaker 2: make their mistakes with their other partners, they continue to
Speaker 2: do the same. Oh the webs we weave. Yeah so,
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry that's sucks. That does. Friend Wise, I
Speaker 2: agree with both the girls are saying, text your friend,
Speaker 2: say that, try to somehow keep the kids close if possible.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have my kids over there, but yeah, drop
Speaker 2: off whatever your house. And yeah, I'm sorry that is hard,
Speaker 2: but to yeah, protect yourself, protect your marriage, and hopefully
Speaker 2: she'll see the light because he's clearly not faithful. Yeah. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 2: ladies were oot oh gosh, and word, I love you.
Speaker 2: Bye bye