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Speaker 1: Wind down with Janet Kramer an I'm Heeart radio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Okay, my guys, Hey, Roman learned a Scottish word. What's

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Speaker 2: a Scottish word?

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Speaker 1: What does that mean?

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Speaker 2: Out?

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's how they say out words accents.

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Speaker 2: Alan goes, get in, get it, And so the other

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Speaker 2: day he goes and I think that.

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Speaker 1: Can we just talk about something'll be pieces about Roman

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Speaker 1: for second.

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Speaker 2: Pieces of someone because everyone says, I say, I say

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Speaker 2: pieces too much, do you? Apparently in the last one

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Speaker 2: I was like, well, this piece and I'm like, there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of pieces in life. I've never noticed. I'm

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Speaker 2: a layers girl, though, So that's fine, lots of layers

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Speaker 2: when it's a story.

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Speaker 1: When it's a story. But can we talk about Roman

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Speaker 1: kicking the soccer ball?

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Speaker 2: I know it's not crazy wild.

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Speaker 1: I can't get past it. Every time you post it,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, how is it doesn't even look real? I know,

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Speaker 1: like he's so little, it doesn't even look Actually.

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Speaker 2: There's two things that I've aied it. And then also

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Speaker 2: you know those crazy crazies that the crazy crazy held

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Speaker 2: in something else and he's like, I'm gonna be kind

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Speaker 2: how they said I lied about like his birthday like, no, why,

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Speaker 2: there's no way, so that I see he's clearly not

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Speaker 2: his aim.

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Speaker 1: I got he's so like, I mean little though I

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Speaker 1: know that's what like.

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Speaker 2: So also okay, still not normal For a couple of

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Speaker 2: months later, I would think he is. Yeah, so for anyone,

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Speaker 2: he is twenty two months old and half Scottish reminding

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Speaker 2: you his dad plays professionally. Well, that's just the thing though.

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Speaker 2: It's like you, guys, he's dribbling a ball. That's nuts.

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Speaker 2: It's not normal. I keep saying, like every time I

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Speaker 2: watch it, I text him like, not normal. I know.

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Speaker 1: It gets me every time, and I'm like, I have

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Speaker 1: to stop responding to her because I know she's getting

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Speaker 1: all of these but I'm just like, what is happening.

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Speaker 2: It's like the do they play when they do, like

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Speaker 2: his ESPN special when he's an.

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Speaker 1: Apple program plate.

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Speaker 2: So I think it's because I mean he's literally put

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Speaker 2: and I put this on my story last week. He's

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Speaker 2: been putting a ball at his foot since he was

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Speaker 2: a baby.

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Speaker 1: For sure.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's kind of is it twisted, like he's

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Speaker 2: programmed him. Every is a kick a ball, kick a ball. Oh,

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Speaker 2: aren't we just just programming in general.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like a lot of times with kids in sports, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's what they gravitate to, but also it's what's been

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Speaker 1: in front of them. True, Like if you don't know lacrosse,

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Speaker 1: for instance, my kids have never seen La Cross. They

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Speaker 1: don't know. They could be fantastic at it, but who knows,

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Speaker 1: because it's what your parents like and are around and

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Speaker 1: put in front of them. So he was destined to

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Speaker 1: be good at soccer, but it's just or football. But

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Speaker 1: like it's just so he's so little doing it. I know,

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Speaker 1: it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we tried soccer o kish wasn't it for the

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Speaker 2: outfit and air quotes is not an elbows out go

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Speaker 2: so someone would get like kicking the ball and she

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Speaker 2: just moved out of the way, and I'm like, well

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Speaker 2: that is not how this works.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be. Well we got to move back

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Speaker 1: because we got to go what I'm.

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Speaker 2: Most interested for, because let's just pretend that he's going

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Speaker 2: to go play soccer in the league in like a year,

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Speaker 2: a year a year honest soccer shots, which we had

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Speaker 2: to I don't want to have a minute. We did.

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Speaker 2: We did lie about his age on his soccer shots.

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Speaker 2: Because he had to be two, and I'm like, well,

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Speaker 2: it'll be two when it finishes, it's fine, and he.

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Speaker 1: Hits like like it's fine.

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Speaker 2: I get nervous to see Alan be a sideline dad.

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Speaker 2: He was so good at soccer. Shots with him. Okay,

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Speaker 2: oh right, but it's not a game meeting, it's not

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Speaker 2: a game yet.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: But you know what's funny is we were so we

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Speaker 2: took We've been taking him to this is insane. We've

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Speaker 2: been taking him to the field on weekends Roman like

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Speaker 2: just to even for five minutes, just to kick a ball,

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Speaker 2: because that's all his attention span does. There was a

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Speaker 2: over forties group playing soccer and I was like, baby,

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Speaker 2: you should talk to them, like go like be a

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Speaker 2: to one of the guys after and he's like, because

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Speaker 2: I'm like i'd love to watch you play, you should

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Speaker 2: play and it's an over forties league and he's like, Babe,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be able to play for fun, like someone's

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Speaker 2: gonna get hurt or I'll get hurt a little stretcher, yeah,

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Speaker 2: like they do in the game. So I know, I

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Speaker 2: thought it'd be really fun. But anyways, that's mine.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's like men's softball. Plenty of men get

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Speaker 1: out there and get hurt because they think that they.

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Speaker 2: Plenty irated because they get a husband with a broken

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Speaker 2: legs he had to play softball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so funny.

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Speaker 2: But I got to say, I'm really happy about all

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Speaker 2: the positive feels that I got from the car.

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Speaker 1: Everyone wants to see it. Though I know I know

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Speaker 1: the bigger show it. I don't know that makes it

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Speaker 1: seem a little bit, but I still think you should, Oh,

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Speaker 1: finish it. Oh, I finish it. That to me, does

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Speaker 1: after you talked about it, I would one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: show it doing just showing it from the get go.

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Speaker 1: I think you would have gotten more negative feedback without

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Speaker 1: talking about it. Why because people will think that it's

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Speaker 1: showing off. For sure.

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Speaker 2: Is it wrong to show off?

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Speaker 1: Not at all, Not at all. I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's wrong at all. I think you

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Speaker 1: would have gotten a lot more negative feedback had you

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Speaker 1: done that at first. And I think that you're loyal.

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Speaker 1: People that are listening understand and want to see it.

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Speaker 1: But you're going to get people that don't listen that

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Speaker 1: you're going to get a lot more hate if you

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Speaker 1: post it, which I'm fine with, go for it. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying. I'm just saying I do think you'll get

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Speaker 1: more hate on social media no content, Yeah, for no context.

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Speaker 2: All the people that post their private planes and.

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Speaker 1: For it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, not me, that's not me. You're following with

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Speaker 2: the private plane. Well, I mean I follow the Kardashian

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Speaker 2: like a few other people, some artists that we follow,

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Speaker 2: you know whatever.

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Speaker 1: But I'm here for me. I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I think it's one of those things where I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I just love the the feed. I love how proud

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Speaker 2: they are and happy for me there. I think it's

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Speaker 2: so sweet and it's like I get what you're saying,

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Speaker 2: but at the same time, like, you know what, I'm

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Speaker 2: really proud of it, Like I and I rarely say

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Speaker 2: I'm not like I always put an asterisk to everything.

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Speaker 2: This one, I'm like, no, I'm proud of myself. Like

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Speaker 2: I worked hard, I'm gonna I.

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Speaker 1: Have a ride in it. I just kind of wanted

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Speaker 1: to amazing.

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Speaker 2: Oh she's first of all, she has a beautiful voice,

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Speaker 2: and she asked what you need and then She also

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Speaker 2: massages you a lot of carist massage now though not mine.

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Speaker 1: We're still she hugs you.

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Speaker 2: I like when she hugs you. Yeah, we went on

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Speaker 2: the corner and she like tightened her seatbelt and then

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Speaker 2: she hugged my hips and I was like creamer, she cared.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't matter for sure.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of things we're proud of, I'm flying out. Where

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Speaker 2: are you going? Cape Cod? Oh? That's right for you?

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Speaker 2: Anniversary and you just celebrated ten years. I did, and

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Speaker 2: we are taking the trip, which is not easy for

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Speaker 2: me to do, and I'm proud.

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Speaker 1: Is this the one where we marked it on the

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Speaker 1: calendar and we kept it held on the calen calendar?

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Speaker 2: We were calendar and then management brought a date and

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Speaker 2: then we were going to move it, and then legend

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Speaker 2: of first baseball game, But it doesn't matter. We worked

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Speaker 2: around all the schedules and here we are. We're going

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Speaker 2: to have three nights, two full days. Nice. Yeah, we'll

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Speaker 2: be back in time for baseball and cheer. And I'm

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Speaker 2: really proud of us. Good. Yeah, I love for an adventure.

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Speaker 2: He's never been and I've never been in. It was

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Speaker 2: really cute the photo that you did so cute. Got

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Speaker 2: your wedding dress ten years ago on what street was

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Speaker 2: that downtown Second Avenue and Second Avenue, and then you

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Speaker 2: had ten years later in the kids and you go,

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Speaker 2: why'd you say a little less love in the second one.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, that's more love? Oh oh, because I felt

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Speaker 2: studied my pos as I said it to Jan, and

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, a lot less love. And that

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Speaker 2: second photo it looked like he was stretching towards me.

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Speaker 2: But I think I was trying to recreate so much.

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Speaker 2: But no one, it's just my pickiness. But it was perfect.

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Speaker 2: It was so cute, and it was just a fun

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Speaker 2: kept congratulating me. You just got maratulations and the people

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Speaker 2: from the rooftop. It was then the George Jones Museum

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Speaker 2: and now it is a different I think it's called

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Speaker 2: like playground or something. But the rooftop is where we

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Speaker 2: twinkling lights and Nissan and we got married at eight

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Speaker 2: o'clock at night, so it was like dark and beautiful

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Speaker 2: and when we walked, we were on Second Avenue and

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Speaker 2: they were screaming down from the rooftop and they're like,

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Speaker 2: my manager says, you guys should come up and have

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Speaker 2: a drink. You can bring your kids, and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: so we did go up just to have the moment,

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Speaker 2: but it is just really different up there. It was

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Speaker 2: kind of wild, but it was just a really sweet

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Speaker 2: little memory and the kids got to be in there.

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Speaker 2: We call the Big Beautiful City at night, and it

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Speaker 2: was sweet and the best part of ten years and

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Speaker 2: the hardest part of ten years. Oh, that'll make me cry. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: start with the pit.

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Speaker 1: Oh. The hardest part.

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Speaker 2: Of ten years is this industry, for sure, and that

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Speaker 2: makes me emotional. And then the both answers and the best.

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Speaker 1: Part of the babies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. That's so a lot of life in ten years, guys,

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Speaker 2: and you have really been there through a lot of it.

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Speaker 2: I'm falling in love with an artist, which I said

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Speaker 2: I never do. To lots of heartbreak, to facetimes too,

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Speaker 2: m us making an impact that it'll be us at

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Speaker 2: the end of this life, maybe just single you and me.

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Speaker 2: But I'm really grateful and we've had like a lot

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Speaker 2: of fun adventures guys like we've done. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: it's just a really sweet I'm excited. I could tell

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Speaker 2: like this the week, the easiest thing to do would

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Speaker 2: a little like I'm moon the one planning, you know.

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Speaker 2: And then I had this moment where I I do

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I got to watch watch it because I

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Speaker 1: And then another thing we're going to talk about this

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Speaker 1: Have you heard about the liac in snelling the case yet?

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Speaker 1: Look it up. We'll talk about it later. Don't do

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Speaker 1: it everywhere. It'll be controversial, but we're going.

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Speaker 2: To talk about it. Okay, that's what we like. Coming

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Speaker 2: Cat the pot Star. Well, guys, what do you got Gramer?

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Speaker 2: You guys have wine about it because I got something

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Speaker 2: I could unpin.

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00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 1: I think they were waiting for your pin.

438
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:17,399
Speaker 2: This is a different pin.

439
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,680
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for that pin, but also your whine about it.

440
00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,399
Speaker 2: You have a lot pinned. We're just wondering where the

441
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,560
Speaker 2: Baltimore is. So I have to ask this one. So

442
00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:32,119
Speaker 2: I would like to start with my husband is a

443
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:33,879
Speaker 2: lovely husband.

444
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:39,400
Speaker 1: I love when start like this. I love when again

445
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 1: these are my favorite. I love when we know for.

446
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:43,960
Speaker 2: Sure it's about Alan.

447
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,679
Speaker 1: Okay, he's a lovely husband.

448
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 2: Yes, he is the best husband I have to have

449
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 2: to say all the past, A great lovely friend.

450
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,119
Speaker 1: He's a wonderful socker. Then let's go into what sucks.

451
00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:03,639
Speaker 2: Okay, he's respect He is such a good dad. He is.

452
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 1: All qualifiers.

453
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 2: He is so supportive, he is just the best and

454
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 2: like so helpful too. Okay, wow, he is very helpful. Alrighty,

455
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:24,399
Speaker 2: And I am posing a thought starter whin about it

456
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 2: challenge potentially have you ladies ever gone on strike? Now,

457
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,119
Speaker 2: before you answer it, I'm just going to say this,

458
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 2: So this is an incident that happened a couple weeks ago.

459
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 2: I okay, when something is close to being done, I

460
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 2: will put on our little skylight calendar jelly because I

461
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 2: know I'm about two more keepings of jelly left. We're

462
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,199
Speaker 2: going to need, you know, like for grocery list, right,

463
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 2: same thing with like bread when I'm making the kids lunches,

464
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 2: which he also helps with, thank you very much, such

465
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 2: like good helper. So Gray Alberd, does he notify you

466
00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 2: that he's done it? Because that's my favorite part of

467
00:21:59,440 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 2: my husband.

468
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 1: He hasn't just done it. He's made sure that you

469
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,479
Speaker 1: reported that. I'm like, alright, tell us, we've been trained

470
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 1: to give them positive reinforcement without telling us, Like, we

471
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 1: can't even say it without making sure that we say

472
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: the positive.

473
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 2: But he made a sandwich and we're all like, that's

474
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 2: the guy. He's on my shoulder, like big sandwich maker. Alright, sorry,

475
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 2: this is.

476
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 1: A sign up.

477
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 2: He's like, would you like me to make the lunch

478
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 2: and then you do the dishwasher. I'm like, or you

479
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 2: can do both because I do both equally at the

480
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 2: same time. Do or like He'll be like, I'll make

481
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 2: the sandwiches and you do the rest, And I'm like,

482
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 2: or you.

483
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 1: Can just do the full lunch. That's funny. The sandwiches

484
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 1: grabbed the chips. That would be profound.

485
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 2: Wow. So it's just I don't know. He's like, he's

486
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 2: fine with doing the sandwich, but it's the side little

487
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 2: trinkets in the lunch box that really get them. Anyway,

488
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 2: I digress. So I then put things on there, right, So,

489
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 2: like the bread. When I know there's only a couple

490
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 2: more pieces left, I'll put bread on the grocery list, right.

491
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 2: So I was cleaning up and I go into my

492
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 2: underneath and I can't find my Clorox Wipechlorox wipes because

493
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 2: something was the refrigerator door was sticky, so I wipe

494
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 2: it a lot from the jelly. From the jelly, yes,

495
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 2: keep it full circle, very full circle. And so I

496
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 2: am like, where are my Clorox wipes? I always I

497
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 2: know where I put them. I put them back where

498
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 2: they belong human and it never moves unless somebody else

499
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 2: touches them, right, So then it's allan. I was like,

500
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 2: have you seen my Clorox wipes? And he was like

501
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 2: I haven't, and he goes, oh wait, I finished them.

502
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 2: And I was like, and did you not replace them

503
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 2: like that? They absolutely are our michlorox wipes. And he

504
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 2: is like, it's not like you use them a lot.

505
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 2: And this is where I went. I went. I was like,

506
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 2: you do not see the things that I do. All

507
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 2: around everything that I do do. I was like, I'm

508
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 2: constantly taking the Clorox wipes and wiping all the little

509
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 2: like knobs and things and refrigerators and that I was

510
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 2: like in taking my magic erasers and going around cleaning

511
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 2: base boards and walls, like on a weekly basis, sometimes daily.

512
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 2: I was like, you don't see the things that I

513
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 2: do at all? Then you know what I mean, because

514
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 2: that's what I do all the time. And on top

515
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 2: of everything else, I was like, imagine what the house

516
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: would look like if I didn't touch the things that

517
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 2: I touch, and what it would look like. And then

518
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 2: I thought, I think I'm going to go on strike

519
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 2: for a week just so he can see what I do.

520
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 2: Do you do not yet? I wanted to pose it

521
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 2: here first, but yeah, what do you think? I can't

522
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,959
Speaker 2: imagine what my home would look like if I went

523
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 2: on strike. But I feel like they might appreciate what

524
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 2: we do. I know, we appre again. Here we go.

525
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 2: I know you appreciate me. Yes, Okay, Having said that,

526
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 2: they I mean this so respectfully. The laps that I

527
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 2: do around my husband in that home, yes, I mean

528
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: even just the unloading of the car. I mean, I

529
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: just last night, Preston is a really great guy. He's

530
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 2: a really great dad, a songwriter, he's a wonderful, super

531
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 2: good at making up. Okay, Oh, last night, we're leaving

532
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 2: the baseball field and I just wild. I wish I'm

533
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 2: next time I'm going to take a picture. We should

534
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 2: just make a series and people can follow along. So

535
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 2: I have this wagon overflowing. I had provided snack for

536
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 2: the baseball blah blah blah. Right, so I have all

537
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 2: three chairs, a blanket, a toddler who doesn't want to go,

538
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: love who doesn't even want to be there in the

539
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: first place. Everything's overflowing. So I'm pulling the wagon with

540
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 2: two hands because the wagon I'm holding the chairs on,

541
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 2: and the attempt to make it over shuffling slowly shuffling

542
00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 2: over to the car. I look up and help me. No,

543
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 2: Homie's got a bag of veggie straws, and he's just like,

544
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 2: I mean I at this point, I've almost run my

545
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: child over me over by the wagon, like it's death

546
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 2: by wagon. And he's like we are literally ten feet

547
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 2: from the car, and he's like, baby, mean me, help

548
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 2: with that. And I'm like, oh, no, no, no, this

549
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 2: has been organ trail for thirty minutes, and if if

550
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 2: I'm going to bring it to the finish line, right,

551
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 2: were right? I love when they ask literally like we

552
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 2: might as well be on the drive home at this point,

553
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 2: and I'm just like, dude, I just I there's such

554
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 2: a unique difference in the way we all see the world,

555
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: the amount of things we get done. I want to

556
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 2: say I can go on strike. I think my euro OSD. Yeah,

557
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,959
Speaker 2: I know, but I feel like I should try more

558
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 2: than I do. I'm on strike right now. Yeah, Cat's

559
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:55,959
Speaker 2: like I've striker on for the last seventeen years. Now.

560
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: I pick up more and like put up more and

561
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But like that kind of stuff he

562
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 1: does more, so I can't really.

563
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 2: But he wouldn't be able to do that if you

564
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 2: didn't pick up the stuff.

565
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: No, he would let this stuff just sit sit and

566
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: stay for sure. But like, yeah, I mean, but I'm

567
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: just not you know me, I'm just not like OCD

568
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: about that. Having said that, the laundry would go to yeah, yeah,

569
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: I mean that is one thing that I am like

570
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 1: very good at keeping up with for sure, and that

571
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: would go to crap. But I feel like you could

572
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: do it the strike. I think you could do it.

573
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 2: I probably could, and I think that he would probably

574
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 2: eventually not notice. No, No, I think he was. He's

575
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 2: also a very.

576
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: Because in particular, Yeah, it's just because you do it,

577
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: you know. But if you were to go on strike,

578
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: I feel like he'd be like okay and start seeing

579
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: it and would start doing it. You know, only that

580
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: I'm not real sure love him. I mean, I'm you know,

581
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,959
Speaker 1: I don't know what would happen. You would go crazy,

582
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: and I don't know that it's good for your mental health.

583
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. You should rather just do him go

584
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: off like when when he comes home from tour, just

585
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: to see his face.

586
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: I don't think she could do it.

587
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to be able to

588
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: do that, because I think it would think it would

589
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 2: be like even the other night, I tucked all the

590
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 2: babies in and that's my jam, right one, like candle

591
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: dim lights, clean counters, and I just go through and

592
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 2: I just to tee myself up for the morning. And

593
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: I thought, what would it look like if I just

594
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 2: left all of this? How'd it feel? I didn't leave it.

595
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 2: She just got about it, but I did think about

596
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 2: It's step one, well, step one a knitting. Let's do

597
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: It's report that, okay, let's do it now next week.

598
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: Let's do it next week, yeah, next okay. Can't wait

599
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 2: to hear about this. Kim Kardashian explains why she doesn't

600
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: believe in homework. So she has said that they do

601
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: not believe in homework during a recent live stream, but

602
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 2: she was I'm gonna tell you why kids are in

603
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: school for eight hours a day. When they come home,

604
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 2: they need to also then do sports, have a life,

605
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: spend time with their family. I think that homework should

606
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: be left for in school thoughts. I totally agree, totally agree.

607
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: I can tell you this, Jolie. Fourth grade is all

608
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: about having responsibility in the classroom and if you don't

609
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 2: finish it, then that's when you take it home. So

610
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: the whole thing is like teaching them to finish it

611
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: in school. And it has been so stress free having

612
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: both kids come home and not have any homework to

613
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: do because we have the sports and all the things,

614
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: and it's it's been great. Yeah, Oh, it's been a

615
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: dream this year. That's great. Can't imagine y'all even having homework.

616
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: That's wild to because they're there so long. Yeah, I

617
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: mean that just it seems like last year it was

618
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: like so much for joy.

619
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ramsey does have it. This year, it's a little

620
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: bit less, and I mean, really, you just have to

621
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: do it in a week, so it's not terrible. You

622
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: can do a little bit at a time, but to

623
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: just not have to think about it just would be amazing.

624
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,719
Speaker 1: I've noticed this year for Emmy eighth grade, she's had

625
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: a lot less homework, a lot more tests, a lot

626
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: more quizzes and studying, but a lot less homework and

627
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: it's just still so much less stress.

628
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,959
Speaker 2: I think I wish that, And I don't know if

629
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 2: this teachers will blow me up in the DMS for sure,

630
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: but I wish that they would take those homework pieces

631
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: and they would start to make some sort of summer

632
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: curriculum may not be a popular opinion, but if you

633
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: don't use it, you lose it. So we do a

634
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: tiny bit of school every week at home during the summer,

635
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: just to like so we're not like cold Turkey, And

636
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 2: I just think it would be a much better Okay,

637
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: Jollie was, but no, like you know, I hear what

638
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: you're saying. Just take a tiny bit and they could

639
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: do like a worksheet in the morning or something throughout

640
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: the summer just to keep it bak sassah less homework.

641
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: Jolie was supposed to do summer school and her teacher

642
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: was even like decline it because she's like they they

643
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 2: need that break for their little brains, you know, not

644
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: like full blown school, just like brain warm up once

645
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: a day. I'm probably I think I know where you

646
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 2: stand on this. But Jolie had come home with a

647
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: a not so great grade on her test and she

648
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: had folded it up so that I wouldn't see it

649
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 2: in her binder, and I was like, oh, why is

650
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 2: this folded? I looked and I go, oh, good job.

651
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: Girl was like it's all good. She's like, you're not mad.

652
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: I was like, no, it's like you're fine, Like it's

653
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: you know, this isn't You're not going to not be

654
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: successful in life because you got a sixty percent on

655
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: a fourth grade percent math test like that. I have

656
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: that like is just do better try, you know, just

657
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: that's what we want to work it out, you know

658
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: what I mean?

659
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: Like I have weight, we carried so find I have

660
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: to say I've learned a lot about that, Like I've

661
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: come a long way when it got pretty okay, The

662
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: problem is is I started with Kayden, who has never

663
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: he's made bad test grades, but he has never made

664
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: less than an A on a report card. Okay, and

665
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: then I finally after sixth grade year, I was pretty

666
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: hard on Emmy, and so I kind of lessened up

667
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: last year, but I was still and this year I'm

668
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: just it's fine, like, hey, let's make sure we're studying.

669
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: As long as you're studying, you know. I've I've loosened

670
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: up a lot. And I feel bad because she still

671
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: kind of has that like reaction of like, oh no,

672
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: are you going to be mad at me? And it

673
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: really makes me feel bad that I did react when

674
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: she had some bad grades. Now, if it's not turning

675
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: stuff in, if it's zero's why I don't like. I

676
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: don't you know, I don't tolerate that. But if there's

677
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: a reason for it, I definitely have. I've gotten better

678
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, I've definitely had to loosen up on

679
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: that a little bit for sure.

680
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: And I think, honestly the dyslexia piece has helped me.

681
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: Not because it's like she's got she's the brain's working

682
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 2: against yourself, so it's like she knew more helpful. I'm

683
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: not going to get I'm not going to discourage that now.

684
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: Of course, same thing. If she's failing at everything, then

685
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: there's a deeper issue to like chat about. But and

686
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: I will say it with my parents. They didn't care

687
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 2: at all, which I think I didn't like. I wish

688
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: they would have cared a little bit about it, because

689
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: then I just kind of gave up. Yeah, as opposed

690
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: to so I would have liked them to. But at

691
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: the same time, if they were really is hard on it.

692
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: I mean again, I knew I wasn't going to be

693
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: doing anything with schooling. I was like out Hollywood here

694
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: and I still count on my hands and it is

695
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: what it is. It's fine, you're successful. Anyways. Do you

696
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: guys see that stuff about Dean and Tory No, the

697
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: so he's they're you know, going through their ongoing divorce.

698
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: The finances, He basically claims, toy makes this much a

699
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 2: month a new divorce bowling as he reveals over twenty

700
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: thousand dollars of debt. I don't know if they're like

701
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: reworking the figures or that part. I'm not like too

702
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: sure about. It's I never like seeing people's breakdowns of things.

703
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: I don't I didn't like it when our stuff when

704
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: public and it.

705
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: Makes me uncomfortable.

706
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: It makes really uncomfortable, And I don't want to know

707
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: about what his girlfriend is like a month and like

708
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: first of all that's she shouldn't be a part of

709
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 2: any thing anyways, Like just as I'm not a part

710
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 2: of any you know, when it comes.

711
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: I don't know why she was brought into this.

712
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,239
Speaker 2: I have confusing to me, no idea actually feel bad

713
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: for the girl that she was even brought into it.

714
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: But I just yeah, I mean the whole thing. I

715
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: just honestly, anytime I ever read any of that stuff,

716
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: it's just like it kind of triggers me. I'm like,

717
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: I don't I don't even want to. It's like the

718
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 2: feeling you guys, I'll probably regret saying this. It's the

719
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 2: same feeling when you accidentally walk into someone on the

720
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 2: in the bathroom, Like I'm like, oh, I shouldn't you.

721
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: Shouldn't be It's like none of our business, of our

722
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: people's answer, it's just not.

723
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like, I don't you know, she shouldn't

724
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 2: be punished for being successful. She has the kids ninety

725
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 2: percent of the time, you know. I don't know if

726
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 2: I really don't know if he's like trying to get

727
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,959
Speaker 2: more money. I have no idea. I guess I didn't

728
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 2: really look that much into it. But I just feel

729
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: like this has been going on a long time.

730
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, just I think the moral of this whole thing

731
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: is truly we don't want to have a huge opinion

732
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: on it because we don't. It's we don't feel like

733
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: it's our business. Yeah, and really don't want to get

734
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: into it.

735
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know.

736
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: When I saw that headline, I was just like, I

737
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: don't want to know this, Like I don't let them

738
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: work it out, let them figure out.

739
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: I even feel like when we've gone through this with you,

740
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 2: we didn't know those things finances and yeah, yeah, like

741
00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 2: you're like.

742
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: Our don't talk about your finances kind of person, very

743
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: old school of you. I'm very like Nick and his

744
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: sister used to talk about finances, like in the beginning,

745
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: and she still talks about finances, but I'm like not

746
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: comfortable with it.

747
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think you should ever talk about finances

748
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: with family. Yeah that's kind of my Yeah, talk about

749
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 2: it with your husband, but like even and sure agreed,

750
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: but when it comes to family and stuff, like, I

751
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 2: don't think anybody in my family has any clue and

752
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: I don't want to tell anything. It's just I sometimes

753
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: want to tell ours because I'm like I think you

754
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: guys think it's a lot more than well no, I

755
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 2: mean I remember like when I was touring with like

756
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: Brad Paisley, and then like my brother's like, oh, you

757
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: must be making like hundreds of thousands of dollars. I'm like,

758
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 2: I am negative.

759
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: Actually, show people are clueless. Yeah, I'm sorry, they're all

760
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: but man. Yeah. But to me, though, the assumption should

761
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: be no different. That's what's so frustrating to me. They

762
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: might be assuming that you're making all kinds of money.

763
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: What does that make you act differently?

764
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 2: Like? Why? It does? Depends on how much you're willing

765
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: to do for them.

766
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: I think, oh, well yeah, yeah I said that.

767
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. But also like in this situation, like and again

768
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: I don't understand this at all. I don't know if

769
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 2: he's coming after more money, so I don't even like

770
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 2: but it's I don't like it. I'm i gonna say that,

771
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 2: go ahead, I don't like it. This is very old

772
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 2: school of me. And I know I'm going down in

773
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 2: a ball of flames.

774
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: Already know what you're going to say.

775
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: Damn it. I just don't. I just don't think it

776
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: is handsome and masculine to go after a woman's money.

777
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: But I can agree with that statement. I also a

778
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: lot of men who agree with that statement.

779
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 2: I also a lot of baggage myself from previous relationships

780
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 2: where I was the breadwinner and I'm and I remember

781
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 2: that being okay with someone, and I'm like now looking

782
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: back now having a husband that's like a provider, And listen,

783
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: this isn't that I want presson to be the provider

784
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: or entire your lives. I truly don't. I have a

785
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: not so secret mission of retiring him, but I do.

786
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 2: I just think it's so handsome and so protective in

787
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 2: ways to provide in that way that that's just very

788
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: icky to me in general. But I don't know everything.

789
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 2: But there are dudes like we know that yes, they

790
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 2: don't care. No, And I said, because I said, don't

791
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: you care that you're a man taking like, don't you

792
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: want to provide for your kids on your own? I

793
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 2: don't care. You know they don't. Certain men just that's

794
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 2: not don't care.

795
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: I understand if you're like in a financial bind for

796
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: a time, you have no choice, you need to ask

797
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: for help because your children could end up on the

798
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: streets like okay, of course.

799
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 2: And if you were going taking care of the kids,

800
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 2: maybe underbred.

801
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: Yes, there are circumstances where a man needs to swallow

802
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: his pride and ask for help. Yes, but those men

803
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: then should be doing everything that they can to get

804
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: out of that hole and provide on their own.

805
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 2: In my opinion, what if that was flip though, because

806
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 2: people will say, well.

807
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: I know, of course people will say, and here's the deal.

808
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: I actually am very much an advocate for women getting

809
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: up out of it themselves and providing for their families.

810
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 1: If you're single, you don't have the ability to stay home,

811
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: you're going to have to.

812
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 2: I just got to think if I'm in a different situation,

813
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 2: and let's say my ex made more money than I did,

814
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 2: and you know, I would probably, yeah, I would take

815
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 2: the money because if I didn't have, if I wasn't

816
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: in this situation right where I'm able to and I

817
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 2: just have, you know, getting by with the bills, I

818
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 2: would absolutely probably take his money.

819
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. And here's the thing. Nick and I went through this,

820
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: I mean we before. We did not get divorced, but

821
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: we had it all laid out and the reality is,

822
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: and I understand that a lot of people don't get along,

823
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,479
Speaker 1: but we did it to where it benefited both our children,

824
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: I mean our children at the end of the day.

825
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 1: How much do I need to make sure that they're

826
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: taken care of? And how much do you need to

827
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: make sure that they are taken care of. Yes, that's

828
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: the only way we looked at it, and yes that

829
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: meant I had to take some money from him, but

830
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: it was purely thinking about how do I make sure

831
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: that the bills get paid, how do I make sure

832
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 1: that the kids have X, Y and Z. It wasn't

833
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: just about taking his money.

834
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: I mean, how is this any different than when we're

835
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 2: talking about Dean. Maybe he that's what he needs, right.

836
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm saying. I can understand for a time.

837
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: But also if he's needing that much money, then he's

838
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: going to have to get another job. Yeah, you know,

839
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: And I was willing to do that. And I understand that. Yes,

840
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: it is a bit of a Yes, there is a

841
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: little bit of a double standard on this. I do

842
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: understand that. But also I'm the kind of person that

843
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: was willing to go and I even said to him, Hey,

844
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: if I need to get another job so that we

845
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: are financially okay. And I understand that everyone doesn't get along,

846
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: but just being willing.

847
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 2: Well, I to heare you, because I remember speaking to

848
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 2: about this and we were having you know, someone we

849
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 2: know was struggling, and he's like, then get a second job.

850
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: Make that like, if you can't send your kid to

851
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 2: school with school money, then get a second job. Ye.

852
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 2: And it's like there's just people that would rather just

853
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: take than from the person that's making the money.

854
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: It's about the effort, yeah, And I'm not saying that

855
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: he's not making an effort. I don't know, and I

856
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: don't want to know. And maybe he is, and maybe

857
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: he just needs that money right now, more power to him.

858
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: But to me, it's very much about the effort level

859
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: behind it and not just sitting there and just taking

860
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: and just accepting how it is.

861
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 2: I do think it is different though for a man

862
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: versus a woman. I really do. And I guess that

863
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: is just my my thing is is old schoolness, yeah,

864
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: because it's like and I know men like Alan, like

865
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: he's like, I would never, oh, Nick would rather die

866
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: than to take money from me. Yeah, And that's it.

867
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: And that's an old school prideful thing for a man too,

868
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: And that is attractive to us because we all do

869
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: kind of like that old school mentality. But at the

870
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: same time, the reason it's kind of been like this

871
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 1: and why it's always been is because traditionally, old school

872
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: wise women would stay home. They didn't have the ability

873
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 1: because they would stay home take care of the kids,

874
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: they didn't have the ability to make the money that

875
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: they did. So if it's reverse, which is probably kind

876
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: of rare, I don't know, I don't know the stats.

877
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: If it's reverse to where you're working, and Mike was

878
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: completely staying home, wasn't working at all, you know, and

879
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: had to couldn't go to school, didn't get the schooling,

880
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: didn't have the chance, and not even them because at

881
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: that point y'all got married a little bit later. But

882
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: that's traditionally what it's for. A woman couldn't go to school,

883
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: she couldn't get a job, she couldn't do those things

884
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: because she had to stay home and take care of

885
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: the kids. That's traditionally why that's even setting place was

886
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: second place. Now it's obviously morphed and changed over the years,

887
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 1: and it's just but now I feel like it's gotten

888
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: so nitpicky about well, this person's making this much and

889
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: this person's to me, it's just like, can you provide

890
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: for your children or can you not?

891
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

892
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: And if that person can't and they're taking care of

893
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: their kids, which it doesn't see he doesn't have a

894
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: whole lot of time. Sounds like she's got ninety with

895
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: the kids. Yeah, and then I can understand it.

896
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's just I don't know.

897
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: There's a lot of gray area there.

898
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: Hey Jana, After listening to a recent podcast discussing cheating,

899
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 2: I have a question. My best friend has suspected her

900
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: husband of cheating. She recently took a coworker with her

901
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 2: to check up on him at a bar he frequents

902
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: with friends. When they walked in, he was sitting with

903
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: a woman and they seemed a little too friendly. When

904
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 2: they saw her, this woman took off and ran to

905
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: the opposite side of the bar, So that reaction said

906
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: a lot to my friend. Her husband denied it and

907
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: they have been trying to work on their marriage. They

908
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 2: went away over the weekend, and while they were away,

909
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: my friend received a series of texts from someone using

910
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: a fake number under my name saying her husband was

911
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 2: cheating and calling their two young children awful names. Her

912
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: husband believes it truly is me and is trying to

913
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 2: get my husband to turn on me. He went so

914
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 2: far as to send several lengthy, untrue, nasty texts about

915
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 2: me to my own husband, my husband, I clearly see

916
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 2: this for what it is, his desperate attempt to distract

917
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 2: my friend from the truth and put the blame elsewhere.

918
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 2: They won't let us see these texts, but her husband

919
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: keeps saying he knows it's me, and he told my

920
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 2: husband his wife is not allowed to speak to me.

921
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: My friend privately messaged me and said she knows this

922
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: must be the person he's having the affair with who's

923
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 2: behind all this. She's not happy with her husband coming

924
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 2: after me, but wants to stay with him. I would

925
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 2: never tell her what to do, but I feel like

926
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 2: I can't be around her because of the lies her

927
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 2: husband is now spreading about me and trying to interfere

928
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 2: in my marriage. Now our children are all close friends.

929
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: I have so much empathy for my friend, but I

930
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: feel like her husband is so unstable we have no

931
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: choice but to cut ties. Any advice.

932
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: That's sad, but I agree, Yeah, I don't think you

933
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: really have much of a choice unless she decides to

934
00:43:59,360 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: leave them.

935
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 2: I wonder if there's a way to just not cut

936
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 2: ties with the kids. Like I like the idea maybe

937
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: of her picking up the kids and doing activity so

938
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 2: the kids have something that feels a little consistent. Just

939
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 2: if they end up do getting divorced. I think the

940
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: consistency in that friendship.

941
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: It would be hard for me to let my kids, though,

942
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: go over there if I don't trust him.

943
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: No, I mean like they could get maybe like an

944
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 2: off property, like.

945
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: Right, Like I would still offer to take the kids,

946
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: but if he's doing this in my marriage, I'd have

947
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: a really hard time then.

948
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 2: Just protect the kids always.

949
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: And I think that you have to let that friend

950
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: know how much you love them, but because of that,

951
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: you have to step away until she can.

952
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 2: Because that does make it to your own marriage too,

953
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 2: you know, like the stress of all you got to

954
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: protect yourself, energy and all that. Yeah, it's a lot,

955
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: and yeah he's totally cheating.

956
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 1: Yeah for me.

957
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 2: Can you imagine any of our husbands, first of all,

958
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 2: go to a bar and sitting with and talking to

959
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 2: a girl.

960
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: Like what again, take what information you know? And are

961
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 1: you okay with that? Very little information? I mean might

962
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: not be able to prove more, But do you have

963
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: one I'm going to a bar sitting super friendly with

964
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 1: a woman anyway.

965
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: No, No, that's the whole thing. Like it's like what's

966
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 2: tolerated is still inappropriate.

967
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: I know, and they will always convince them. But oh,

968
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: I was just talking to her right on today.

969
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: Why, Well, it drives me insane because they're just that

970
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: way and they always stay that way, even after they

971
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: make their mistakes with their other partners, they continue to

972
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: do the same. Oh the webs we weave. Yeah so,

973
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry that's sucks. That does. Friend Wise, I

974
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 2: agree with both the girls are saying, text your friend,

975
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 2: say that, try to somehow keep the kids close if possible.

976
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have my kids over there, but yeah, drop

977
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: off whatever your house. And yeah, I'm sorry that is hard,

978
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: but to yeah, protect yourself, protect your marriage, and hopefully

979
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: she'll see the light because he's clearly not faithful. Yeah. Yeah, Well,

980
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: ladies were oot oh gosh, and word, I love you.

981
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: Bye bye