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Speaker 1: All right, everybody, welcome to Friar Territory, part of the

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Speaker 1: foul Territory network. I'm Darren Smith. That is Marty Caswell,

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Speaker 1: and up until like a couple days ago, I was

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Speaker 1: the most recent addition to the foul Territory family. But

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Speaker 1: now here we have a little bit of royalty. Of course.

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Speaker 1: He is our longtime friend for many years on the radio,

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Speaker 1: my former colleague at ESPN, and now my colleague here

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Speaker 1: at foul Territory. He's the winner of the Spinx Award.

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Speaker 1: He's baseball royalty. Am I laying it on thick enough?

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Speaker 1: Tim Kirkchin, it is good to see you, get the

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Speaker 1: chat with you as always.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was plenty thick.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Darren, Marty, great to see you,

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 4: Great to see you as will cho you Tim, And

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Speaker 4: you said that the name of your show is is

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Speaker 4: this a great game or what? And it's with your

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Speaker 4: son Jeff. Now, the thing that kind of got me

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Speaker 4: Tim when I saw the release was you are claiming

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Speaker 4: no hot takes on this show, So what do you

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Speaker 4: have against hot takes?

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Speaker 3: Well, the whole world is a hot take right now,

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Speaker 3: That's what I have against it.

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Speaker 2: So I'm trying.

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Speaker 3: We are trying to do a slightly different show than

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Speaker 2: That doesn't mean we don't deal with difficult situations. We do.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not gonna sit there and yell at my

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Speaker 3: Everyone else does that, So we're gonna just try something else.

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Speaker 3: We laugh and we learn on our podcast instead of

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Speaker 3: scream at each other. And anyway, it works for us

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Speaker 3: because Jeffrey is not a big baseball guy. You know,

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Speaker 3: he was like the star of all the school plays

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Speaker 3: in high school. And I know like three things in

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Speaker 3: the world baseball, basketball, and sitcoms from the sixties, and

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Speaker 3: Jeffrey knows everything else. So we're a good team. When

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Speaker 3: there's something I need to know about music or pop culture,

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Speaker 3: I go to him and then I tell a baseball

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Speaker 2: That's how our show operates.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: I do love that, Tim, and I think people can

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Speaker 1: relate to it as well. You know, even just recently

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Speaker 1: as I'm listening to you talk about this opportunity with

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Speaker 1: Part of it, i'm sure is for you, for the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we get a lot of response to the whole

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Speaker 4: Well, Tim, it is it is great seeing you here

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Speaker 4: It's called let's say it is called is this a

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm kind of ashamed to say, Marty, I've already

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Speaker 3: been to Arizona. Okay, I'm already back home. Traffic budgets

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Speaker 4: If the Dodgers can't because of all the storylines and

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Speaker 4: Are you gruel and agent peller on Craig Stanman, a

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Speaker 4: Is it about Nick Castillano's in his fit with the Padres?

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Speaker 3: Well, I no longer ask questions about the managers that

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Speaker 3: I am. So I have stopped asking, like, how can

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Speaker 3: the big leagues before? The rules have changed, Everything has changed.

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Speaker 3: That job has changed as much as any job in

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Speaker 3: Craig Stammon is a great guy. He is smart, he

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Speaker 3: But you know, the thought of you know Jim Leland,

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Speaker 2: But this is where we're going.

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Speaker 3: We're always looking for somebody new who's got a different

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Speaker 3: But I'm gonna give Craigs Dammin every chance of the

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Speaker 1: Well, Tim, can you expand on that a little bit?

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Speaker 1: When you talk about it being a different era in baseball?

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Speaker 1: How would you what is the job description of the

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Speaker 1: change team to team, right, different gms have different philosophies,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the job today is to follow the rules

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Speaker 2: Again, I'm a really old.

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Speaker 3: Man now, but when I first started covering, you have

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Speaker 2: And that's how we have to look at things. And

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Speaker 3: I just know that when the Padres had Bruce Bochie,

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Speaker 1: It is always our pleasure we appreciate you. Let's remind

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Speaker 3: because poor old pop pop here.

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Speaker 2: Has so much trouble with technology.

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Speaker 3: But it's a lot of fun that we get great guests.

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Speaker 3: We've had maybe ten Hall of Famers on our show

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Speaker 3: the last couple of years. This is year number three,

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Speaker 3: and starting next week, well two weeks when we start

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Speaker 2: So it's great fun. At least it is for Jeff

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Speaker 2: and it is for me. What are you gonna book?

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Speaker 3: As?

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Speaker 1: Like Marty they have no hot takes on the world

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Speaker 2: That's nice to have ATA on the World base last

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Speaker 2: night's game.

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Speaker 3: We might have had to have had a hot take

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Speaker 3: other time. And yes, we'll get a j Preller on

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Speaker 3: schooled me so many times. He is an absolute nightmare

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Speaker 4: At He doesn't need he does not need that for

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Speaker 4: his ego. I'm gonna make sure that I said in

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Speaker 4: this club. By the way, I have to ask you

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Speaker 4: Tim Kirchin, go out and party with one team, which

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Speaker 4: WBC team is it?

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Speaker 3: I would party with any last an American team. It

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter where they're from, because I did this WBC

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Speaker 3: a couple of years ago at Chase Field. I would

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Speaker 3: leave the ballpark and it was like Marty Garras was

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Speaker 3: taking place in the streets. It was a gigantic party

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Speaker 3: from whatever country was playing, and the Latino countries. It

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Speaker 2: It was absolutely fabulous.

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Speaker 3: And that's why this tournament really works, not just because

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Speaker 3: the players are great, what a collection of players, but

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Speaker 3: it's the fan base and how just emotional and how

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Speaker 3: much they love being there. That's what makes WBC a

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Speaker 3: stunning success.

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Speaker 1: It is it is a ton of fun. Tim Krkschen,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you. You are a stunning success as well.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for the time.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you Aaron, thank you Marty.

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Speaker 4: By Tim all Right